Its for the Mutated Pigs Edition>Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-june-30-2025>NewsThe 2025 MagicCon and Pro Tour Schedule:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotationhttps://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963>WotC's War Crimeshttps://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)>Previously>>96710252>TQDoes he eat slop?
/slop\s|slop\W/i;boards:tg;reason:brown;stub:no
You can take a pigga out the mud but you can't take the mud out the pigga
Can't wait to make a new pig commander deck!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO2V7pjDlX8
Tomba UB 2028
>>96715864I miss that lil porka like you wouldnt believe
>>96715850imagine being this triggered by a character from Magic the Gathering
>>96715827
>>96716079Imagine being so mindbroken that Bebop from Magic the Gathering triggers you
How are the pigs coping on social media?
I was thinking that they hadn't banned Vivi because they were reprinting it in the 60 cards deck... But no, those decks have lists on the side and no Vivi in them.
>>96716130more mad that they're being called pigs than why they're being called pigs
SQUEALER is our word but you can use SQUEALA
>>96716133>reprinting UB cards outside of the initial licensed productlmaoYou won't ever see that card reprinted anywhere else because>contracts and licensing>card would lose 80% of it's current value>or any product containing a reprint will shoot up in price and no one is going to buy it making wotc lose moneyunironically; vivi is the only thing keeping the game alive at this momentif he gets banned, lots of speculators, scalpers and metaslaves will be very angry and other companies will never do any UB sets because it's bad optics if a card that was designed to be broken to boost sales ends up being "officially hated"
>>96716187This post makes me angry not because I disagree with it, but because it is factually correct.
>>96716187
>>96716187Vivi wont actually be banned in November, the meta has evolved to beat it
>>96715827>op pic
>>96716133Those look like shitier event/challenge decks.
>>96716187how do you read>We believe that we will likely take action in November.Vivi Ornitieris warping the Standard format and likely needs to go.and get "they're not gonna ban it"
>>96716248>he trustedOH NO NO NO NO AHH HAHAHAHAHA
So Reality Fracture is 100% about Jace right
>>96716248I speak jewish fluently i mean i went to business school
>>96716266Chaos Planar but with Jace as the main character
>tfw university won’t let me teach a course on MtG Theory and Practice
>>96716266>>96716288So what's Jace's plan? He wanted a map of the multiverse so he could break it so he can have a mixed-gorgon baby with Vraska?
>>96716248he still believes MaRo in 2025
>>96716316>Gorgon is our word, you can use Gorga though
>>96716248it's a meme
>>96716187That's another awful element of UB, unless they start doing universes within reprints for all these cards, Every UB card is essentially reserve listed. They haven't done it except for the secret lair commanders for TWD, Stranger Things and Street Fighter. But now that there's no "list" slot in packs that they were being put in, there is no place to put them. And they're not doing reprint sets anymore either. They can only reprint when they return to the UB, like The One Ring people want a reprint of, they could put that in the Hobbit, but it will only further destroy standard... They're definitely doing it aren't they
>>96716316He used Loot to find the Meditation Realm which he... Somehow learned (I think the implication is his brief touches with Ugin and Bolas's minds taught him this) was basically a sort of nexus of the Multiverse, shaping it would shape the Multiverse, so he planned to steal the Gem of Becoming (which he does), use the visualisation magic he stole from Proft (which he does) to reshape the Meditation Realm with his illusions until all of reality shifts to accommodate, with his stated goal being to, basically, fix everything. He wants to stop the Phyrexian Invasion from happening, wants to stop the War of the Spark, wants to fix Vraska (and himself but secondarily), and there's probably unstated goals too.He tried to do that and summarily fractured into tiny pieces along with the Meditation Realm, which reformed as Jace seemed to, too. Very much akin to how Ugin became a spirit in the first place.
>>96716442>which reformed as Jace seemed to, tooWait what? I just remember him exploding
>>96716456For reference.
>>96716489And for comparison, Ugin's own revival.
2026 looks already very grimYou think there is a chance these whole year crash hard and we have a better 2027?
>>96716503Even if it did (it won't) Magic takes time to shift away, and they're not gonna just not make sets they're already mostly done making.
>>96716503>You think there is a chance these whole year crash hard and we have a better 2027?sets are made 2 years in advance, whatever gameplay feedback they get from 2026 will only influence releases from 2028 onwards
>>96716503No fucking way Marvel+ST+El Hobbino fail. Those three franchises have a lot of die hard retarded fans
>>96716503We won't see any noticeable course-correction for at least 4 years unless something goes catastrophically wrong and WotC is kill.
>>96716503the problem is they prolly already have contracts with various brands for the next 3-5 years so we are at least fucked for that period of time.It is actually amazing that Hasbro did an reverse Netflix because Netflix actually realized that it is more profitable to create stuff yourself than pay royalties to other companies.
>>96716503It's going to definitely take a hit, that's for sure; but I doubt it'll crash hardSide not, I hate that in the span of a year, there's going to be 3 NY-centric sets
>>96716503>more than half is out of universe slop
>>96716553>and WotC is killone can only hope
>>96716529Scalpers and investors are going to have cold feet to go into UB blindly.The Hobbit is going to be the go to for scalpers that have to choose. It will succeed financially.Marvel is going to fail, Doomsday is going to be terrible and hurt the set; Star Trek fans are going to consume, but it should have been a Dr. Who kind of product, it isn't that relevant.
>>96716227I really don't know who these decks are for. For casual players they're never going to have the same appeal that EDH precons have, for new players looking to get into competitive formats they're completely useless. Plus they have very little monetary value printed in them. Spell Snare in standard is interesting though.
>>96716316IIRC he wants to create an alternate reality that's more to his liking and replace the current one with it. He basically wants to rewrite the multiverse.
>>96716606And Avatar and TMNT don't justify premium prices as franchises, so those will also fail.
>>96716442Retarded retcon but we had hopium for a massive retcon to erase the slop from the recent story. I guess we win (unless the post retcon story is as bad as the story erased...(I guess the writers don't even know that current Jace body is not his own body)
>>96716503i have a better question: how the hell they pretend to cramp 7 sets in 12 months? are the completely unaware of the absolute ridiculous prices of their products? or they trust so blindly on whales and outsider sales to keep this sinking ship afloat?
>>96716678>Story progression is a retcon now
>>96716575Can't wait for New York City remastered coming out in 2030
>>96716503>2026=NYC block>2027=Fast food blockOink oink oink!!! Delicious slop incoming!!!
Can't wait to see all the awesome new commanders in the upcoming UB sets, what about you guys
>>96713623 >>card has beautiful art but is unplayable everywhere >What's her name, /tg/? you can just play that instead of a basic wastes in commander. its not unplayable
>>96713970>Vorthos here, I fucking hate that they folded UB into standard. And I include FF in that assessment.>If they kept it all separate from the rest of MTG in a format where Spongebob and Iron man can fight Sephiroth and Zuko away from the UW universe then I wouldn't have any objections, but no, they have to rattle off powercrept bullshit so that UB will end up a part of the meta.Someone suggested that they print UB with a different cardback under the deckmaster brand.
>>96716818>"Hey, new player who got into Magic because of UB. No, you are not allowed to play with those cards you like. Fuck you."
>>96716841just buy sleeves
>>96715041>I haven't paid a dime on Arena since original Eldraine.I stopped playing arena years ago. Idk if i'll get back into it.I never paid for cards, and I got to mythic rank in competitive. It's been a while, so I dunno if thats impressive or not.
>Some random noname posts about pigs and slop>All of sudden everyone is the community is showing their true colours99,9% of posts like these are simply ignored but somehow this one managed to start the biggest discussion we had in ages.Richard calling Arena 'the sloppiest of slop', Crimge having a meltdown and then shut down within 10 minutes - truly, we are living in the end times.
>>96716873Why is that a surprise? Nobody cares what the retards here have to say, but they listen when someone with a greater reach talks, even if both are saying the same thing.
>>96716503horrifying.>>96716130>How are the pigs coping on social media?>>96716138>more mad that they're being called pigs than why they're being called pigsaside from maro criticizing the term, who is doing that?>>96715375the term latinx was made by spanish speakers>>96715253I think his point is that every country, even ones with poverty, have actual cuisine. Saying this just makes you seem stupid or totally uneducated>>96714623>Its like wtf are you even eating there, dirt mixed with gasoline
>>96716503>>96716529>>96716687>>96716580>>96716729Imagine going to standard events and you match up with people who only have universes beyond cards in their decks.
>>96716873>Some random nonamepokemoki is a well-known legacy grinder, the overlap between legacy and EDH is pretty big in the social media/content creation sphere, that's why his post exploded, a bunch of content creators reacted to it
>>96716873can you link to the videos you are talking about? i dont follow most mtg social personalities
>>96716873The fucking White did what all these faggot content creators and “pro Magic” drones never would dare to do: Speak the plain truth. And even if his discourse was focused MOSTLY in Cummander but also in UB, what he said touched the biggest nerve in this shit of a game: the UB introduction.
>>96710724what comic is this from?
>>96710724>>96711010>>96711055Sucks how all the metathran cards are bad.
>>96716931I'm sorry to burst your bubble but Legacy and Vintage literally don't exist for 99% of mtg players. Pokemoki has less than 1000 views on YT and he has next to no followers on any platform. He is pretty much non-existent by current standards in the modern digital age.And no - there is almost no overlap between Legacy and EDH, I have no idea how you came up with such a ridiculous thesis.
>>96716873More and more people, even normies, are realizing how everything is just slop now and that content creators just want to suck you dry.Companies and theirs shills are losing their shit because people just don't give a shit anymore about being forced to play nice since it's not even worth it financially, morally and mentally.
Can we get an Age of Empires 2 UB? "Wololooo" instant, Mangonel vehicle, teutonic knights. Oh no wait, it's not a contemporary or futuristic setting.Who wants historic or fantasy settings in a fantasy game lol.
Hasbrew may have told JOTC to appeal to the pigs, but Gavin laid the foundation for the farm.
Nothing will happen
It’s already happening.
Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals
If i had any say at wotc i'd give the current design team a last chance to design an actual good game or fire their asses and turn the company into a strip clubThey keep designing the shit they do because they know they can pull the homophobia or discrimination card and get away with it
>>96716841I had to deal with this with Portal 2. What's the big deal?
Like pigs to the slaughter
>>96711055That contradicts previously established lore that all creatures from Rath were brought there from other planes and then mutated to survive the environment.
>>96716970you are completely misunderstanding what I'm saying here, I didn't say he has the same numbers as the most popular EDH content creators nor that the average EDH player also plays legacy, I'm saying he's part of the content creator/influencer social group behind the scenes, the people making content about legacy and the people making content about EDH know and talk to each other, nobody is trying to promote his stuff for clicks, but people who know who he is noticed he made a big post about something they felt strongly about so they reacted to it, that reaction continued to spread even further and so onif he was a literal random person with no connections, the post would've not even reached 10 people, that's my point
>>96715854Phenomenal.
>>96716503>You think there is a chance these whole year crash hard and we have a better 2027?It's been well established multiple times that Universes Beyond licensing agreements are worked out ~4-5 years prior to the set being released.If UB starts to completely collapse, we have at least 4 more years of UB sets to go before they can begin to course correct.
>>96717091who knew that 65 IQ people hired for immutable characteristics and an AI trained on tweets couldn't design a Turing-complete trading card game?
>>96716873>99,9% of posts like these are simply ignored but somehow this one managed to start the biggest discussion we had in ages.The poster of the piggy meme had been channeling occult power for decades, drawing out all the resentment from the entire player base. Gathering power from every gripe about every format, every shit idea WotC shoved in our faces that people just quietly accepted. It was as piggy slop spirit bomb on the whole community.
mtg has been slop for 20 years, since it stopped being edgy and weird. It pisses me off to see people excited for the boring safe return to Lorwyn as if it's not equally as slop as UB. Lorwyn is worse than UB because it's actively sloppifying something that was once cool. I'll take UB slop where I can ignore the top half of the card over nostalgia bait that softens the edges on something which was intentionally uncomfortable.
>>96716503No because they're currently making the sets for 2027, it will be too late to correct course until 2028 if (and when) 2026 causes a huge crash. Sets are made well ahead of time and with UB they're contractually obligated to put them out whether they're good to go or not.
>>96716873I think it's just how true the whole thing is and the comparison to pigs and slop is so dead on that the pigs masguerading as people can't help but accept that they really are pigs. Funny how the comparison applies to other things related to magic from its original point and even applies to other things that people consume. Took only one person with not that big of an audience to speak out their real thoughts. All the bullshit that people spew just doesn't measure up against the truth of how things really are.It's actually quite refreshing that someone speaks out the truth on social media. And the memes are funny as fuck
>>96717305>(and when)It won't.
>>96716873Much like Rasputin running the Russian to the ground, everybody knows what is to blame but eaited for someone to say it first and take the initial heat
KOWABUNGA
>>96717262You nailed my feeling on it and it's been the problem with every other return set in the past... basically decade. Pretty sure noone wanted to return to Amonkhet or Kaladesh to play hot wheels on it. Everything good they have they take and ensloppify it, nothing is safe or sacred. The elves there probably won't even be racists anymore
>Spider-Pig in one slop set>Literally going to be a Mutant Pig in the next slop setOh yeah, it's all coming together.
What crossover would you actually be excited about if they announced it?
>>96717446>What crossover would you actually be excited about if they announced it?Bible Black.
>>96717456I have noticed that there's been more sexo in UB lately. FF was probably the tail end of covid-era woke brain rot and I'm guessing horny will be back in 2026 in a minor way.
>>96717446None.
>>96717446OS Runescape
>>96717446Treasure of Nadia
>>96717474>I’m guessing horny will be back in 2026 in a minor way.>minorHow I wish
>>96717500
>>96717446I don't want any more crossovers, period. I would have told you elder scrolls in the past. I don't know how to continue playing this game because the in-universe shit is just as bad now. Also ES6 is gonna be a dumpsterfire and Bethesda is basically a dead company anyways. We would get a black trans Tiber Septim
>>96717513From left to rightYesNoYesYesNoYesNo
>>96717446>what kind of slop do you prefer, fellow humans?
>>96717496Oh shit that somehow reminded me about minecraft how far away are we from the chicken jocky mtg card ? -_-
>>96717532nononononobreednoI have a type. I need to fatten her up first though
>>96717446Goblin SlayerSo i can make racist memes
>>96717539Extremely surprised it hasn't happened yet actually. Minecraft does crossovers with everything and anything. It's even in the new sonic racing game. (both sonic and spongebob had a secret lair this year btw)They are leaning way heavier into the le epic chungus reddit memes on cards now so yes when the minecraft secret lair happens we will get a chicken jockey. Im calling it within the next year
>>96717539I could see minecraft. We already have one card, albeit maybe one of the worst cards.It would be infinitely better than anything else (save maybe hobbit) we have lined up for next year's UBs simply because it's closer to high fantasy than anything else.Funny you should say that because we just got the announcement for Minecraft movie 2 in mid 2027.
>>96717654Right I didn't mention, spongebob and hatsune miku are both in the sonic racing game as well, both got secret lairs this year and along with minecraft, are being whored out
>>96717654Feels likelier as a Secret Lair than a set.
>>96717675Yeah that's sure stopping WOTC as we can see.
>>96717533Do you have any idea how much money WotC is spending right now to try and get people to stop talking about pigs and slop? The focus groups alone are eating into MaRo's retirement hoard.
>>96717446UB Bible: Old Testament. Nosewater and his bunch of retarded faggots need God, the angry one.
>>96717446the reserve list
>>96717446OG Warcraft
>>96717446Thankfully Nintendo would never
>>96717446Monster Hunter, since I'm curious on if they'd just do mainline or do spin-offs as well
>>96717446Shonen Jump
>>96716503>LorwynProbably good>TMNTUB dogshit is UB dogshit but has the potential to be good mechanically>StrixhavenWill be inoffensive but probably decent>Marvel Abysmal dogshit>HobbitLikely worse than LTR>Reality FractureEither pure kino or pure ass, no in-between>Star TrekSecond coming of EOEEh, I really don't think anything here will be as bad as Spidey and DFT. It'll probably be a rough year if you're one of those people who feels obligated to play and analyze every single set, though.
>>96717724oink oink
>>96717446Silent Hill if we can go sci fi we can modern horror.
>>96717743That's the Jewish one.
>>96717446the most obvious pig of the thread
>>96717446Bible Black or nothing. Your move, Mark.
>>96717446I don't need to see things I like in Magic. I want Magic to be its own thing. If they anounced something I cared about, I would be worried rather than excited.
>>96717206Source on that being whose working at wotc on mtg?
>>96717446Maybe one day...
>>96717446none. crossovers shouldn't be in mtg.make a secondary brandname if you want the same mechanics in a different card game
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/collecting-marvels-spider-manWhy did they remove the special triangle foil that lets you know the card is from universes beyond?
>>96717262>mtg has been slop for 20 years, since it stopped being edgy and weird. It pisses me off to see people excited for the boring safe return to Lorwyn as if it's not equally as slop as UB. Lorwyn is worse than UB because it's actively sloppifying something that was once cool. I'll take UB slop where I can ignore the top half of the card over nostalgia bait that softens the edges on something which was intentionally uncomfortable.>>96717405>You nailed my feeling on it and it's been the problem with every other return set in the past... basically decade. Pretty sure noone wanted to return to Amonkhet or Kaladesh to play hot wheels on it. Everything good they have they take and ensloppify it, nothing is safe or sacred. The elves there probably won't even be racists anymoreI can understand why the racing set is slop. (It might have worked as a background in some cards if it was on a single plane like kaladesh). But what's wrong with lorwyn?
>>96717474No. It's just that WotC can't let the virtue-signalling retards that redo Kicker every set shit on external IPs. Having to collaborate means more sane companies tard-wrangle the creative direction.
>>96718416original lorwyn is great. nu-lorwyn is going to be bloomburrow-ified pastel cute guys all working together in ranked-choice harmony.
>>96718416The vibe of Shadowmoor is not dark and gritty enough and the vibe of Lorwyn is too fruity and gay, like they feel the need to crank up the contrast between the two to 110% but they also can no longer commit to the edge in the art they had for shadowmoor in 2008. They can't just let things just be what they are, they have to deal in extremes but they also have awful digital artists making a majority of the sets. They've also said the story will partially revolve around strixhaven students "taking a tour of the plane" so that's going to suck. I admit we are judging this based off a handful of cards, so we'll have to see. I don't WANT to be negative but their recent choices made me skeptical of everything they do.
>>96718509Hate to say that I agree, but the fact that every faction was dicks to each other instead of hugboxing was a great feature.
>>96716187>unironically; vivi is the only thing keeping the game alive at this momentOkay, this is just the latest "magic is dead" cope we've been hearing about for years. You coddled fags have no idea how much worse things can get before it does actually die; it's got at least a decade left in it, probably more depending on if the normalfags do eat it up like good piggies.
a product dies when people stop buying ita game dies when people stop playing it
>>96718538Every good fantasy story thrives on faction conflict and war. Bloodshed, loyalty, and sacrifice are all conerstones of the stories that will make the boys say "hell yeah." And all the magic sets we get now is "the plane has to come together to deal with this greater threat" or just straight up race cars, murder mysteries and treasure hunting.
>>96718569even with the car racing set, they went out of their way to say "it WAS an illegal underground race through the planes, but now it's sanctioned." That shit boggles my mind. Why would you go out of your way to tell a worse story?
>>96717870>but has the potential to be good mechanicallyWotC does not have the potential to achieve that.
>>96718407>Why did they remove the special triangle foil that lets you know the card is from universes beyond?Focus groups said it looks weird.These people are slaves to market data. They don't make decisions on their own.
>>96716704>Remake past story - to erase from new continuityThis is Retcon>done within story, just like the new 52 in DCNow this is Story ProgressionYou two are retarded in even caring about mtg nu-slopified-stories>>96716775I hope Donatelo is good>>96716873>Arena 'the sloppiest of slop'How? Ins't arena mostly standard and Pioneer? Isn't the UB shit done Universes Within exclusively to arena?If it was the fake Arena only cards I could see that argument working but when I played I just ignored those play formats.>>96716969This, only reasonable good one is the battlemage>>96718402Not happening, nobody likes it.
Name a knight wizard card art that goes harder than Thunderscape Battlemage
>>96718690>This, only reasonable good one is the battlemage>>96718736i wonder why they didnt print any new metathran cards? were there any callbacks in the recent dominaria set?
>>96702346>That's because WotC burned the bridge with him. His story was charity work written under the condition they release the PDF for free and the physical sales go to charity.>>WotC didn't market the story at all compared to their other books which were utterly atrocious (War of the Spark)>>Right as it started getting momentum, WotC pulled the PDF from their websiteWhy did wotc do this?
>>96718751I simply love the Battlemage cycle. Pure high fantasy mixing axe wielding with sorcery that feels like true Magic
What did they mean by this?
>>96718755just bad management due to employee turnover
>>96718770What did they mean by this?
I suspect that wotc will actually run out of UB properties to use, once you have done the big boys like marvel, warhammer, etc where do you go, not every IP in the field is going to be willing either, witcher maybe Diablo? elder scrolls, warcraft , mrg needs to have somethings attached to its own identity like a movie or game that isnt cards. >muh book muh comic in production
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>>96718792I have this in foilI have the whole super cycle with the apprentices and masters from invasions
>>96718786The problem I think is that they believe they can recycle IPs once they run out, but as Fortnite showed, there's a huge dropoff after the first time you do the collab. They'll likely have their wakeup call with The Hobbit, but I wouldn't hold my breath because WotC is a company notorious for being bullheaded even as they mistakes blow up in their face.
>>96718762>>96718792what do you think about volvers?
https://web.archive.org/web/20160330095746/magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/gerrard-capashen-boots-54-yard-game-winner-2007-06-14
>>96718623>Focus groups said it looks weird.>These people are slaves to market data. They don't make decisions on their own.are they trying to merge the streams or make it harder to tell which stuff is canon?
>>96718569I partially disagree. The concept of 'everyone uniting against a greater threat is a perfectly good trope so long as it doesn't get overused (like all literary devices).I liked Bloomburrow because it was largely centered on everyone working together against the Calamity Beasts, who genuinely threatened everybody, with it being clear that they were all previously at peace and had little reason to turn on each other. Tarkir on the other hand felt much weaker because the gradual alliance felt stilted and forced, like the writers wanted it to happen but had no concept of how to convincingly get these disparate, previously warring factions to unite.
>>96718949I mean, Dragonstorm made it perfectly clear the 'peace' was VERY tenuous. There was a whole cycle of the clans fighting each other.
>>96718827Volvers are good. I had Rakavolver and Cetavolver back in the day.
>>96716503No shot at recovery till 2028
>>96717446Crossovers should never have been anything outside of commander decks. Given that that ship has sailed though, might as well enjoy it until I don't and then quit. Glad I don't play Standard because those players are completely fucked lmao. Enjoy competing with scalpers and collectors for your pushed tournament game pieces until the end of time. I'll take one Pokemon set to push this to the absolute limit, please.
>>96719036crossovers should never been anything outside of alters.
>>96718859Paul from marketing is running the show and he is absolutely obsessed with trying to expand to non-core markets because number MUST go up
>>96718949The problem with recent stories is everything must be resolved within a single set.So Tarkir felt worse than bloomburrow because Tarkir had to have the warring factions, the dragons, and the peace all in the same set.Whereas Bloomburrow was mostly about:>there's cute animals>there's scary animals that try to kill them>there's also a little story about one of the scary animals being mad its baby is stolenIt's also new, so they don't have to cover a block-set's worth of lore
>>96718859>are they trying to merge the streams or make it harder to tell which stuff is canon?Nobody cares.Inject more Sneaker Culture (tm).LINE GO UP!
>>96718623>>96718859>are they trying to merge the streams or make it harder to tell which stuff is canon?yes exactly. I don't think this one was about market research. they don't want to make their most important cards wear yellow badges. they want UB and UW to be the same thing so their stupid Bolas fanfics gain the gravitas of Tolkien.
>>96719123>they want UB and UW to be the same thing so their stupid Bolas fanfics gain the gravitas of Tolkien..... but they aren't the same thing.
>>96718827>>96718847One thing I like that WotC never did again were the Volvers. I m glad that they didn't go around giving them creature types. They are just Volvers.Necra and Ana could be zombie, Ceta and Raka could be minotaurs, Dega could be human.I m glad that the non sense hadn't touch them.
>>96717724>The focus groups alone are eating into MaRo's retirement hoard.Those mint 1st print copies of Crusade aren't going to sell themselves!
>>96716873Magic content creators have always been insufferable Lefties, but they don't show their true colors until they see something offensive enough to justify a reaction in their mind. Was passively listening to a Maldhound stream just to have something on in the background, and all of a sudden he starts frothing at the mouth over the Dwight Secret Lair because the actor said positive things about Charlie Kirk. It makes me wanna slap him and yell at him: "No wonder no one wants to play Magic for the game's sake, you guys are so fucking insufferable to be around!">>96717446The only mainstream properties I have any attachment to are Nintendo-related, but I wouldn't really give a shit if they did a set. I might draft it a couple times, which would be significantly more than any other UB sets, but I wouldn't build a deck around it.
Hey yall it's Mark Rosewater here. Just saying, how about we stop saying "I am a pig and I eat slop" and replace it with "I am a ninja turtle and I eat pizza." Just saying. Haha!
Every time I try to imagine Nosewater as a regular guy outside of the realm of Magic and Hasbro, I’m reminded of the fact the kike hates White.
i had an 1831 vintage elo and still lost money when i cashed out because modo is a scam
I am getting hyped for the unannounced universes beyond release already. I don't even know what it is. Yet I'm ready to spend thousands of dollars on collectors boosters.
>>96719049crossovers should have never been a thing period
>November 10, 2025>"well goys. We've looked at standard and it looks like there is no deck at over 30% of the format. All meta archetypes are present. The format is flourishing and no bans are necessary. If anything, it's not flourishing enough and I think we're going to need a Cori Steel unban."
>>96719258Well said frendo! Let’s forget about my broken promises and the fact you HAVE to buy our seven products next year! (Only next year pinkie promise ;^) ) and let’s rejoice at the fact a lot of your beloved franchises will come to Magic, brining new people and making your games exciting and fun!! Ever wanted to cast a Black Panther? Sometimes you wish Bilbo Baggins has a card? Or want to revisit New York City with Donatello? Now is all possible!! Magic is for everyone and (You) should be glad to invest on it! MaRo out stay tuned for Avatar spoilers!!!
gather up!
>>96719198charlie kirk was probably the kind of retarded conservative who censors edgy stuff in games. Liking him wouldn't make MTG any better
>>96718204magic x comic lohoney selectdead or alive xtreme beach volleyballnekoparasecret lair: カワディMAXnanashi (back when he drew monkeysex not after she sold out with nagatoro)
Did another one of those surveys but nothing much changed since the last one. Now they threaten legal action with NRG and JOTC if anything gets leaked.Told em Jace is shit and a lame ass character.
>>96719361I'm interested to see if they're going to make any changes to Legacy or Vintage in this announcement given that it takes place at a really inconvenient time relative to the three Eternal Weekends.>NA - 10-12 OctoberB&R>EU - 27-30 November>Asia - 13-14 DecemberI doubt it, even though Legacy needs to be gutted and Lurrus needs to go in Vintage.
>>96719510If they don’t make a fucking single ban in Pioneer i’m tracking this dev team man…
>>96719510I bet good money there will be no changes in vintage, they might ban tamiyo in legacy but that's more wishful thinking than anything>>96719532my brother, wake up, pioneer isn't getting any tournament support until AT LEAST 2027, it's time to give up, pick up pauper or something
Come home to premodern ...
>>96719412WOOOOOOOOOOO BABY LOOK AT ALL THAT SLOPWE EATIN' TONITE!!!!
>>96719510>Best>Lurrus>Lurrus>Lurrus>LurrusPerfectly LURRUS, as all things should be.No changes in all formats.
>>96719621>tfw waiting for Episode 4
>>96719412:9 looks delicious ! >>96719458He liked the Diablo games. You should actually try to do research on people you don't like instead of going with your echo chamber intelectual theories.
>>96719304the sad thing is that's a great rate lately. the mtgo economy has been in the shitter since 2023. Card prices are inflated, but chests are in the shitter and cashing out costs 20% (or more if you can't take paypal). manatraders and goatbots get richer while we get poorer, just like in real life.
>>96719556Even with 30 years of commons and 5 years of power creep even in commons, Pauper is still more balanced than pioneer, standard, modern, or legacy. Also I just like delver.
What bothers me the most is that it is pretty much confirmed now that EOE only exists because they wanted a tonal stepping stone for star strek
>>96719564>getting shanked for a boltnot worth it
>>96719361Monstrous rage and Manifold mouse are fine too. theyre only uncommons
>>96717032Please, let this be true.
>>96716873>Crimge having a meltdown and then shut down within 10 minutesDon't know who this is but this sounds funny, tell me more.
>>96719660He was a bigoted racist transphobic college dropout who lied about his own expulsion and profited off retarded bigots with refinery shift worker money to burn.Shouldn’t have stuck his neck out like that.
>>96719898I too believe shooting the undesirables is the correct course of action for this country.
>>96719258I'm actually gonna do this though.
>>96719790>What bothers me the most is that it is pretty much confirmed now that EOE only exists because they wanted a tonal stepping stone for star strekthat seems plausible to me, but how do you confirm this?
>>96717446Digital Devil Story and Shin Megami Tensei
>>96719258Back to work demon piggy!
Uro unbanned tomorrow
>>96719621Shehezarade should be legal again change my mind
>>96720264transgender is an islamic front group
do people actually enjoy bo1
>>96720305No.The entire Bo1 playerbase is hamsters on the wheel grinding dailies for fake currency to do fake drafts.
>>96720336that sounds about rightalso mb i thought i opened the arena thread
>>96720264Coomander identifies as mtg so it is now.
>>96720305I hate ranked, I basically only play brawl but I want the free packs so I quickly just rank up by using BO1 RDW to get there quickly.
I am happy Gaiji-san has ceased to be a bother.
>>96720305Whats wrong with bo1?
>>96720502its just a lot of non games between fast aggro and fast combo that try to goldfish a win before the sideboard can even things out
>>96720305bo1 doesn't exist afaik, unless you wanna bully the kind of creature that's stupid enough to play it and rob them out of their gemmies>>96720336>grinding dailiesif you just win 1-2 games a day you have 20k gems each month to enter a qualifierof course you need to be good enough and also have a near complete collection like i do but i'm at a point i just don't care anymore>>96720346>arena threadyou mean that awful thing where half the replies are anime series and the other half my fangirls?>>96720502i see you enjoy rigged and weighted matchmaking, keep casting those red spells
^this is your appearance
>>967205021. They rig matchmaking and opening hands.2. Sideboards aren't used, meaning that strategies that die easily to techs are allowed to flourish.3. People forfeit as soon as you undermine their strategy because techs are just too complicated to work around.
Can someone ask Maro about support for Boar tribal? Say you're a fan of Peter Porker.
>>96720653nypa
>>96720653Don't out yourself easily it is better to talk about an WBG commander for boars in paper.
>>96719361to be honest I played quite a lot of ranked the past week and vivi and rdw are the least of my problems, sure I also lose to them but the worst are the Multicolor control decks that only run removal, draw spells and one creature twice , you need vivi and rdw to keep this sort of retardation in check, where some wanker needs 30 min to finish you off even if he draws half his deck.
>>96721089Print but with MARO's face added.
>>96721144you can make a mostly alchemy board/pig/swine deck and play it in historic btwdroverthe little pigsthat enchantment that gives you a piggoand porcine portent
>>96721098>Why yes I do think 80% of the meta being brainless aggro is a good thing because otherwise I would face one of the other two macro archetypesThis is literally why you're in a situation aggro is 80% of the meta.
>>96717446if we can return to a ONE BLOCK a year release; that would be nice.
there you go sister (pig)Deck3 Swine Rebellion (Y24) 151 Plains (SLD) 1012 Drover of the Swine (Y24) 173 Swamp (SLD) 1052 Forest (SLD) 1084 Porcine Portent (Y24) 234 First Little Pig (Y24) 183 Putrefying Rotboar (Y25) 103 Tarantusk, Unwisely Awoken (OM1) 1184 Fatal Push (FCA) 93 Cavern of Souls (LCI) 2692 Collected Company (AKR) 1864 Overgrown Tomb (GRN) 2534 Godless Shrine (RNA) 2484 Temple Garden (GRN) 2582 Hushwood Verge (DSK) 2613 Nowhere to Run (DSK) 1114 Sheltered by Ghosts (DSK) 302 Brindle Shoat (JMP) 3801 Hedge Whisperer (MKM) 1652 Green Sun's Zenith (SPG) 0Sideboard3 Dismember (SPG) 412 Fragment Reality (Y22) 42 Back to Nature (M15) 1693 Surgical Extraction (OTP) 192 Damping Sphere (DAR) 2133 Thoughtseize (AKR) 127
>>96716873>Richard calls a thing trashWow, he never did that before!
>>96717446TES
>>96719510They've gotta delete Companion manThis mechanic should never have existed
>>96721549Hey man it's your boy Maro! Our internal survey showed that players overwhelmingly supported Companion as a mechanic. In fact, when asked whether Companion or UB were ickier, more people replied that Companion was less icky! We gotta look out for our customer's happiness man!
>>96721549I don't blame them for trying something new, I blame them for not removing it when it became obvious it was a bad idea.
Considering hasbro ends up putting all their licenses as secret lairs, I'm surprised we haven't seen a beyblade one yet. Maybe takara tomy does not want any slop touching their brand
>>96721877The formula right now is to soften the player base up with hat sets then add IP slop later, like how Cappena set enables the New York sets and EoE sets up for Star Trek.For a Beyblade set, they will need to make some in universe counterpart first.
>>96721906Was New Cappena a top-down set? It felt like it was more focused on the tri-color combinations rather than the mafia thing.
>>96721956New Capenna wasn't an anything set - hard to have mafia faction wars when there aren't any police. They also didn't to too well on the art deco look although this seems intentional. What a complete mess of a set.
>>96721956It likely started as a mafia faction set and was decided it would be 3 colour later in development.The families themselves are all over the place and don't really represent their colours as well as the alara shards did or even the tarkir clans which makes me think 3 colour was decided later
>>96722041>when there aren't any policeWell… there was supposed to be a police faction, but WotC, being the trend-chasers they are, decided that portraying corrupt cops was too controversial, especially around the time of the BLM riots and all that.
>>96721956The idea of an art deco demon mobster world came first, but the set is structurally a bottom-up set.https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/making-magic/hitting-streets-new-capenna-part-1-2022-04-07
>>96722086>the families themselves are all over the place and don't really represent their coloursIt's a damn shame because I really liked some of the mechanics in the set. Connive especially.
>>96722086Temur will always be the worst offender of not integrating color identities properly. Those 4 Temur cards in Ikoria represented the wedge way better.
>>96721956I miss Capenna now seeing how we have a whole NYC shitty block.I think they can exploit the criminal families dynamics more. Also i really wish they made Riveteers and Jund sac a real powerhouse.
>>96722348Flavor-wise I think it did a good job. Brutal snowscapes filled with predators and the struggle to survive could easily be GRU, but they failed to express it mechanically.
>>96715827You know, OP, I'll give you points for putting at least some effort into your pig slop joke this time.
This game is fucking cooked man.
>>96722555The game is, but the commander isn't.
>>96721274what does emptyness have to do with reanimating? I can kind of get the -3/-3 but even that feels a little underwhelming considering the name
>>96722586It is supposed to be life (reanimation) + death (-3/-3) = emptiness
>>96722586reanimation in orzhov colors was always not happy
>>96722635Even in death I wage
Remember when all we had to worry about was shivam fucking up white?
>>96722722>Shivam>fucking up whiteKek. Gavin and Nosewater have fucked up white more than anyone else possible and that’s AFTER removing the color from Standard for years.
It's Rosewater, ok?
TMNT absolutely confirmed. They're starting with the Commander stuff first for some reason so I'll post actual cards when they come up.
Kevin Eastman-signed cards. There's four of them, naturally.
Sneak is Ninjutsu for anything I guess.
>>96723101
Notably they did change up the typeline rules to make them Mutant Ninja Turtles instead of Mutant Turtle Ninjas as Magic would normally type them. This isn't relevant beyond aesthetics, but still.
>ninja samurai
Shredder (probably one of several).
>>96723092>>96723111This is actually worse than Spider-Man… I almost can’t believe it…
Krang, with a new creature type for some reason instead of just making him an Alien or whatever he is.
>>96723111That artstyle is so bad hahahaha
And the lads.
It’s too early to say this is fucking JOEVER?
This is so fucking pushed
>>96723164It absolutely is not unless your immediate reaction to seeing something green is to recoil in disgust.
*Pukes over another horrible capeshit set*NOSEWAAAAAAAATER
Original April design, seems. Black redhead, as many called. Might be variants in art, who knows.
>>96723187Maybe if you are a slop enjoyer this actually caters you… For me seeing this >>96723166 is an abomination…
And Casey.
>>96723174IS THAT AN OINKER?
Splinter art, no card shown.
>>96723197of course
OINK OINK OINK DELICIOUS SLOPPIGGA BROTHERS WE WON TODAY!!!
>>96723166Every UB has to have at least one unique creature type so they can justify never reprinting any of it
And an "all the turtles" card.
>>96723111Insta ban in legacy?
>another set with 70 legendariesWho asked for this? Is it an imperative to have Casey Jones (WHO?) and his 2 commander decks on the edhrec?
>>96723249haha! because you know! turtles! and ninjas! and mutants!! haha!
And, uh... A weird white Gifts Ungiven-type thing?
>>96723166>affinity for artifactsBased>utromeurgh
>>96723249That's the commander set
>>96723174Everyone know it’s supposed to be Rocksteady and Bebop, in that order.
>>96723166Is this good for modern or are two pips to restrictive?
>>96723249>Ninja>No Skulk
>>96723197They really can't fucking help themselves, can they?
>>96723262Casey and April are the two humans who show up in every tmnt everything >>96723273I can't tell if this is neat or retarded
>>96723249>5 colors>keyword soup>tribal>put a +1/+1 counter>do things draw cardIt's all so fucking uninspired
>>96723273This has got to be good somewhere
There's also some TMNT side-product co-op thing. Some new cards but they're all considered as part of the Commander set so I don't care and they look bad.
>>96723336Esper Goryo’s reanimator
>it's another 100 legendary card set
And another bonus sheet source material thing.
>>96723347>shuffle the rest into your library
will any of you consume or play with this turtle set? looks interesting to me
Also Jennika confirmed, which, sure. Who's Jennika? I think a vague 'fifth turtle' that they include sometimes. There's also Venus but I think there were some rights issues with Venus, so Jennika is here.
>pizza land
>>96723385>literal slopKek
>>96723379
>>96723385...I honestly kinda love this? It's stupid enough but it's still very much "Magic in the thing" instead of just being completely divorced from Magic. I liked the web lands from Spider-Man too.
>>96723366>implying getting to tutor your sideboard is a bad thingYou’re newer than fresh grass
>>96723385ludo kino for all the porkers
>>967232951-2 of in affinity.
That's it, but Last Ronin did get some art shown so that's obviously getting a couple things too.
>>96723399Oink oink you are right fellow pig… I mean Magic enjoyer!!!
>>96723385>literal goyslop lands
>>96723365How is this art doubling season at all? Did they really not even give enough of a shit to find a piece of ninja turtles art that has two of something on it?
Oh, also this Pizza bundle which is just some pizza-themed reprints. Not really important.
>>96723197DING DING DING
>>96723399This is the hate circlejerk thread, you want /edhg/.
Does this answer your, which April, question?
>>96723465It's their own April, looks like. Reminiscent of the Rise design and the OG design, with the jumpsuit from '87.
GIVE ME MORE SLOP!
>>96723465Yeah, it's the original.
>>96723455>pizza-themed reprints
I'm glad the local huemonkey is really intent on driving this buzzword into the ground
>>96723491Not quite the original (though her being a computer person is more comparable to the original), as the original was ambiguous ethnicity (depicted originally as mixed-race but moved to just kind of unclear and broadly white-looking later) with black hair.
>>96723500>Oink Oink!Piggie back to your pen!
>>96723517Good, keep going.
>>96723514
Also does look like they're having April also be a reporter anyway. Looks like a sort of composite version of her based on the many incarnations.
This could have been another Kamigawa set. I hate UB.
>>96723532>those lipsAbsolutely would
Why do they have to make every possible person black?
>>96723512She looks like one girl I know who is indeed mixed, just without the red hair. I guess you could say the OG was lighter skinned, but this one is plausibly mixed to me.
Spam the JOTC social media pages with AI images of Bebop eating card slop
>>96723197violating UN laws against genocide
>>96723559>One character who's been depicted as a variety of races is black>Every possible character is black
>>96723559>Why do they have to make every possible person black?>Stares at mono white humans and the Dracula variant of ThaliaCome on you know why.
>>96723559Free advertising from Asmongold etc
>>96723514>SLOP RITUALSTOP JOTC STOOOOOOOOP
>>96723581I mean, I know but still wanted to bring it up
>>96717496>>96717529>>96717856>>96719036these are cool answers, Magic would benefit from a lead writer, there was a time I'd say Brandon Sanderson cause his Stormlight series is vaguely Magic multiverse esque. But his recent stuff is more WOTC than even WOTC if that makes sense, basically the core writing needs a STRONG lead like hire an actual fucking author like Erikson to outline a real plot
>>96723569She's very much a character who's one of those "entirely different depending on the adaptation" types. Meanwhile Baxter Stockman was originally explicitly black and then made white (until more recent depictions made him black again) and nobody cares.
>>96723579Yeah this is not even remotely comparable to the Aragorn situation.
NEW SLOP FOR BRAVE PIGGIES>>96723615>>96723615>>96723615>>96723615>>96723615
>>96723385imagine being so pizza you play a land and think of nyc
Holy shit it is exactly the same shitty design process as Spider-Man. 2026 is going to be a bloodbath.
>>96723385Sloppiest of slop
>>96723111Ninjutsu,webslinger,and now this. Man, can't wotc stop being retarded? Just named Spell ninjutsu or some other bullcrap.>>96723160Shit, also super generic ability.>>96723166>AlienYou think they really care? Don't you remember "coyote"?>>96723174That is the only cool card from this abomination. I could even unironically play this.>>96723197lmao>>96723208not bad>>96723223looks like shit.>>96723249If it wasn't for the triggered ability this card would be really cool.>>96723273Damn and I thought the spooderman set had bad art.>>96723384Girls Get it done!
>>96723514>doubling down on the food slopOf fucking course
Hey kids, enjoying your spiderman/transformers/my little pony game? That's nice. Maybe they'll release a Barbie set soon, wouldn't that be epiczorz? Just don't forget to do your homework alright champ? Your mother and I are going to be busy for a few hours so have fun with your friends and your little card game!
>>96723223hot
>>96717446
>>96723384Peter Laird hates Venus with a raging force so he might have nixed it. I dunno how Kevin Eastman feels about her.
>>96723111>>96723699>Ninjutsu,webslinger,and now this. Man, can't wotc stop being retarded? Just named Spell ninjutsu or some other bullcrap.sneak is fine as a mechanic name (since its not limited to ninjas), I wish the card itself had a more generic name tho
Is Spiderman a flop, or at least a disappointment in comparison to Final Fantasy?My LGS sells out of anything Final fantasy that isn't play boosters within hours of restocking, but all the Spiderman stuff is still available including prerelease kits.
>>96723384Isn't she the transgender from the comics?
>>96723385https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h__XMayRsCY
>>96721098>30 min to finish you off It's because you're also playing control and control in these formats is about running overly expensive interaction and occasionally putting an excessively expensive big creature into play. And then the interaction is too expensive leading to waiting too long to get the mana to play anything so that you can still interact with the stack. So needing 6 mana open or whatever while winning from either 4-5 mana cost morph land attacks (5-6 lands open) or 6+ mana cost creatures requires a game go to at least turn 10 before the control player can start winning. And of course, it would be a failure to ignore the fact that every other rare/mythic creature is now a variant of Quirion Dryad with another strong ability or two like Vivi. Way too many +1/+1 counters and token generators. Creatures are just too strong compared to the interaction and the interaction is too damn slow. It's also the reason why this is an aggro format. Control is just too slow. Which is why it either loses before it can do anything or it goes for 60 minute games because if their opponent is allowed to cast anything thanks to the FIRE design, you lose. In something like Pauper, a control deck player can start attacking as early as turn 4 with the snakes deck and earlier if running delver. Low mana cost interaction with relatively low mana cost creatures (still much more balanced than standard thanks to being commons) leads to faster games. Delver is doing great still there while if it were printed into standard today it would not see play because of how hard rares and even uncommons have been power-crept. >ArenaAnother mistake. If I were you I'd just uninstall it. You probably ran into plenty of people who spend 5 minutes on turns that should take less than 15 seconds. They do it on purpose because they're trying to get you to concede and since JotC refuse to shorten the timers and will not implement a reporting/ban feature it will never change.
>>96717355>RasputinThe Tsar was already doing that by having incompetent advisors chosen entirely because they told stories rather than any skill set. The Tsar also made several other incredibly stupid decisions throughout his reign with his final mistake being abdication leading to the empire having no leaders. The Russian empire was always seen as backwards by its contemporaries for good reason.
>>96718403This. Crossovers are garbage and ruin the game.
>>96723385I LITERALLY AT THAT FOR DINNER!
>>96723249>it isn't a four mana 4/4Shameful. Embarrassing.
