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Thread 447: What the fucked happened to the thread Edition

Bushi-Navi EN: www.en.bushi-navi.com/
Deck Log:
decklog.bushiroad.com/ (JP)
decklog-en.bushiroad.com/ (EN)
Beginner guide, decklists and other info: pastebin.com/QxKQRhrQ
Up to date fanmade PC online games, 3DS/Switch emulation and Mobile games: pastebin.com/7Fj8VqA2
Cardfight and Buddyfight matchmaking server: discord.gg/6xVFD4r
Weiss/Schwarz Resources: pastebin.com/sk2iSjW1

BCS 2025/26 Info: https://en.bushiroad.com/events/bcs2526/

DivineZ DELUXE Finals Ep 12: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0mj1pSvrus
DivineZ Parallactic Clash Teaser: https://x.com/cfvanguard_PR/status/1974256672383381953

Release Schedule (Vanguard)
- Dragonsoul Resonance 10/24
- Future Card Buddyfight 11/21
- Symphony of Might & Bloom 12/19
- Lyrical Monasterio Season of Wonders 1/30
- EN Chasm Of Lost Souls 2/27


Release Schedule (Weiss)
- Azur Lane Vol.2 10/17
- Konosuba Re:Edit 11/21
- DANDADAN 1/30
- Makeine: Too Many Losing Heroines! 2/13
- Fairy Tail 100 Years Quest 3/13

Release Schedule (Shadowverse EVOLVE)
- Special Set Seaside Memories 10/24
- Combined Set "Worldreaver's Descent & Dominion of Darkness" 11/21
- EX Crossover Set "Umamusume: Pretty Derby" 12/19
- Combined Set “Banquet of Dreams & Trial of the Omens” 1/23

Last Thread: >>96632465
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I'm not usually the guy that makes the OPs, I only really updated the vanguard section so if I missed anything for another game, sorry.
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The last thread was mimicking the game state that's why it died
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>>96727552
What were they thinking?
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>>96727600
>325€ in dlc + 70€ game
They were not thinking
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>>96727716
Probably the first time I'm satisfied with being from a third world country, I got regional pricing
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>>96728809
she just want yuyu femboy body
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>>96727458
Stupid question but I'm a returning Vanguard player I've played through G and V era and skipped Overdress era. Why do a lot of Vanguard players roleplay so much so much as the anime characters so much? Is the anime that good? I've played Yugioh so I'm aware there are anime fans but I've always feel like that the anime decks in Yugioh rarely reflected the actual in-game meta so I usually don't hear players talk about the latest episode at locals.
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>>96730046
Because roleplaying is KINO.
Yugioh playerbase could use more of that too, maybe then they'd be a good community.
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>>96730046
The last two metas actually revolved around anime decks, and back in set 13 of D, three of the main meta decks were roided out anime decks from the new support.

Granted, only Lianorn has received consistent support since then and has remained fairly strong, while Youth got a retrain and Drajeweled is the only one holding up with the power of being ten billion years old with two year old support the deck will run playsets of because everything else Dark States gets is hogwater 90% percent of the time, and also because said 2 year old support aged like wine such that Bushiroad has yet to make anything actually equal it.
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>>96730046
Because if you aren't shouting "OCHIRO DOKO MADEMO" when you RevolForm are you even playing the game?
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>>96730046
I feel like most of this game's appeal revolves around hype related to riding, standing, luckshitting triggers and surviving turn 3-4 rush, literally what else are you suppose to do, just flip your cards in silence? I've only watched the overdress series but if anything most of the characters there were undermining how hype this game can be.
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>See one
>Practically permanant draw for the entire game
My fellow Luticia players we are so fucking back.
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It's funny how they made one of the would-be best Magnus support cards in the same set they made Dimmea, but as a Dragon Empire generic that's one of the reasons Vyrgilla is as strong as it is.

Having a properly refunded top 7 searcher for DJDs would do Magnus wonders, as it's all of Magnus' key pieces and also excludes the Ignis engine because the only DJD it ran was Rystal Galer as a tech slot for Forbidoll.
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Where can I find a 4 meter woman?
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I miss Buddyfight. It's a shame no one ever translated any of the 3DS games either considering the third one is likely the most complete experience of the game anyone can get now with it dead in the west.
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>>96728809
Would Mirei even be allowed to compete in an official bushiroad tournament? With the stickers and all
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>>96738681
Probably not. In universe she's allowed to have Haruka as a supporter, but does bushiroad even have something like that?
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>>96738971
Yes. At the Tampa regional last year there was a blind VG player that got 4th in premium. Basically had a judge with him every game telling him stuff.
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>>96739009
>got 4th in premium.
mirei will never reach semis
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>>96739009
Sorry, it wasn't actually last year, think it was in February this year. Last bcs season.
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>>96737197
Believe in the Myshtich of Four Flames
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I love Shirogane so much bros.
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>>96739970
>Shirogane beat yuyu that beat akina
The true deluxe champion
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>>96739009
That's cool
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>>96737197
They gave it all that shit just to ban it all. Be glad Drajeweled doesntget baited like that. They know that a Vanguard pulling what is essentially a persona ride, from hand that stacks with regular persona ride is terrishit design.
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>>96744990
Future husband of erika
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>>96745001
More like future cucksband of Erika. She'll be getting railed by Akina with him as a cover.

Perhaps there will be pity sex at first because he has the highlighted tuft of hair like him where she calls out Akinas name mid coitus but eventually her need for BIg Brother Dick will overtake her.
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New Varga soon
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>>96752723
It will be criminal if they don't make a pun with the Lyrical Masques deck about a christmas Dragontree.
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Balanced meta as always
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>>96755806
I heard people are actually using the new Vairina in Bav
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Clarissisters.... we are getting back up there
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>>96757282
Clarissa is my favourite lyrical girl but her deck just looks so bad by modern standards.
Kind of want to order in a few copies of her for collection purposes though, Dragoroid erotic.
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>>96756946
It's a solid choice and is almost certainly the reason Trickmoon got hit to 1 since every game Bavs could guarantee Vairlord if they saw Ars while also getting free soul.

However there was a build that didn't run it and still did well, deck space is still pretty tight to actually fit it in, and past turn 3 you need Kaankshati to convert it into an Arms or else it's a vanilla g3 unless you throw in Suendi, which I've seen some lists do that would help recur Cindi easier while also getting Bavs a huge beatstick later in the fight.
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>>96755806
Is Youthberk good now?
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>>96759794
Rebuild's turn 4 has always been one of the deadliest in standard and Keter Pile is even more obnoxious with the Nebula order.
The new support helps with the lost early game caused by ditching the minerva order between having a very flexible top 7 searcher and an in archetype maple. the only thing Youth could ask for is some removal
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>>96759794
Rebuild>Exist is retarded, the deck was only bad because it had no rears, it now has rears.
It's basically Sybilt but in exchange for not retaining triggers on the Vanguard you get everything else you could ever want.
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>>96760148
>>96761098
Where does the deck even go from here?
A rear that binds Exist early? A revolform that is even more overtuned than Exist?
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>>96761774
Some form of advantage generation, especially when they inevitably hit or errata the Nebula order after a while because that shit is too useful in its current state. Straight up another 4 copies of Fire Regalis any Keter deck can use that also enables order engine.

After they cripple Keter pile at some point, I could see a Gust/Tempest hybrid, but that anticipates a slower format which we are far from seeing; currently Youth as no need of a Tempest retrain because the format is extremely fast due to Bavsargra telling every other midrange and grind deck to fuck off and shaping the meta around herself since set 7.
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>>96761774
Rearguard that gets a crit when you stand it with Exist.
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>>96765582
They better not. Its retarded that at the beginning of D they basically admitted how shitty critical damage is by limiting critical triggers but here we are in a format where majority of bosses are going around dishing out passive critical and near nulling that decision. I thought Bav was a good enough compromise to having +crit units but they fucked that up by giving her 2 restanders
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I was trying to thing what franchises are popular enough in the west to bring new players, if they made a collab, but also known enough in japan to justify releasing the set there, The only ones I could think of were minecraft and sonic, stuff like final fantasy was already taken by magic.
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>>96769701
Bavs should've backstepped by getting the same restriction every non-Masques Drajeweled has where she needs to be against G3 for the critical. The deck already crushes early commit boards due to the front row retire and mace before hunkering down with the shield.
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Shadows is getting a nice promo

JP Tournament PR November/December 2025
EN Tournament PR February/March 2026
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Judgement Dragon, Vegaldial
Keter Sanctuary - <Abyss Dragon>
"To live in shadows, to sink into shadows. That is the resolve of the dragon, armored in deep darkness."

[CONT]:If you have a vanguard with only «Shadow Paladin» for its clan, this card is only from «Shadow Paladin».
[AUTO]:When this unit is placed on (RC), if you have a vanguard with "Blaster" in its card name, COST [put a card from your hand into your soul], draw a card, and this unit gets [Power]+5000 until end of turn.
[CONT][RC]:When this unit would be retired for the cost of the ability of your vanguard with "Blaster" in its card name, it may be regared as retiring 2 units.
[AUTO]:When this unit is retired from (RC) by the ability of your vanguard with "Blaster" in its card name, COST [Energy Blast (3)], choose a "Blaster Dark" on your (RC), and it gets "[AUTO][RC][1/Turn]:When this unit attacks, this unit performs drive checks until end of battle. At the end of that battle, retire this unit." until end of turn.
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>>96771923
*Binds your blaster dark*
Whoops just bricked your trash. Sorry about that man but hey now you have an excuse to play a better deck!
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>>96779537
They shouldve just made Varaina Yuyus vanguard if they were gonna give him drip like that
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>>96780255
We did downgrade tremendously from Messiah to Nirvana, Messiah had enough alternate forms to make a deck comprised almost entirely of itself.
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>>96781097
they just hate yuyu
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>>96779537
>>96780255
New Nirvana that legions with a Vairina
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Cow girl Vanguard in Lyrical when

Her LSR should be her in a cowgirl outfit or I riot.
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>>96785133
Never.
They fell for the twitter tranny propaganda. Bermuda/Lyrical is pozzed as fuck now
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>Want to build deck because new support makes it playable
>Can't find any stock of thr old cards
This sucks.
None of the actual new decks interest me.
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>>96787292
>None of the actual new decks interest me.
Must be an aesthetics thing because Veissrugr,Artisaria and SweetLinker are all good additions to the game. Nanaclir I cant defend since her Stray Garden gimmick is just pretty words for a simplistic ativation state.
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>>96787756
Still hoping Nannaclir wasn't the designers saying Sephirogila was a mistake, because it's a diet version of the same deck but with a usable fourth attack no matter the build.

I think Art and Linker are good in the sense they're more midrange decks in a currently high aggro format, but Veissrugr is only towing the aggro line after they made gave it everything it needed and then some; deck does have a number of ways you can play and tweak it despite the shit ton of staples, it still leans towards aggro like most decks.
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>>96790145
anon respect the random side character harem
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>>96790155
Mikoto is back to being a main character
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>>96790162
>Mikoto is back to being a main character
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>>96785133
Soon.
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>>96787756
I'm talking about dzbt9 onwards.
Veissrugr and Artisaria are cool decks, I'd build them if I could afford them but a lot of the new decks coming out just don't interest me. Nannaclir is boring, Tuarina is boring, Grauwwind dragon is whack, Dinabarada might be cool I should actually look at how that deck works. Sweetlinker might be cool too, I haven't paid much attention to the lyrical reveal season. I'm so used to checking out mentally because they support old decks I can't find the key pieces to because I'm so limited in how I can buy singles.

>>96788557
Veissrugr gets a pass because while it does border on doing everything it could want now, it has some cute gimmicks to it due to how the deck thinning works with your bot deck guard skill. It's not as fun as Kotihblaze's minigame but I do like it.
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>>96791771
Deck's kind of boring to build outside of order ratios, but it's got that balanced flexibility that isn't bullshitting it's boards back and can eventually run out of gas compared to Heartluru; it's got limitations compared to other top decks despite having that disgusting turn 3.
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I bought 2 decks and I don't know how to assemble them (if they're correct in cards, if I should use different shields on the ride deck, I don't even know what cards should go in the ride deck, etc.) Could someone help me assemble those? I'm not looking to play for tournaments I just wanna shield'em and have some fun learning the rules with my gf (100% noob here).

Deck 1:
4x miracle kid
4x battle sister, ginger
4x oracle guardian, nike
4x yellow witch meme
4x sphere magus
4x scarlet witch, coco
4x wistaria witch, zozo
4x sprout witch, roro
4x topaz witch, pipi
4x coral witch, zaza
3x oracle guardian, gemini
2x silent tom
2x oracle guardian, bia
2x battle sister, chouquette
2x Imaginary gift protect
2x Imaginary gift protect (horizontal card)
1x Lozengue magus

Deck 2:
4x dark knight of nightmareland
4x blitzritter
4x cursed doctor
4x histeric shirley
4x variants killertail
4x werwolf sieger
4x ghoulish despoiler
4x Imaginary gift protect
4x Imaginary gift protect (horizontal card)
4x appalling thread
3x variants shutarm
3x demon duke of death, baal
3x prisoner beast
2x demon eater
2x blood sacrifice, ruthven
2x silhouette tracker
2x alluring succubus
1x vermillion gatekeeper
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>>96792845
>inb4 v-era sucks
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>>96790745
What do I type into TCGPlayer to buy this titcow?
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>>96790162
>>96790176
Potential woman
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>>96790176
>>96792900
Mythisch of Ever Changing will be meta
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>>96795281
What's his endgame?
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>>96796523
ruka marry him or he kill the world
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>>96796523
I think he's just in for the ride after he failed to bag Ruka and doing his part
Kind of like how Suo was going through with the fated clash because he felt like it, regardless of erika telling him that he was going to get everyone killed
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This new Xoverdress bav build is so cool man.
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>Playtest Clarissa with a friend
>Deck actually kind of has hands now, doing alright into Veissrugr and Welstra, games aren't stomps at all.
Man this deck just needs Evelyn to be a G1 now.
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>>96795281
Lunatic Keeper goes hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOhuIbN7FvI
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>>96796523
Didnt he say he played Vanguard to be the strongest? Probably that
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>New Dragoroid deck
>But the main G3 isn't a Dragoroid
THIS IS BULLSHIT
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>>96805142
It completely powercreeps Clarissa. Bushiroad should be ashamed.
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>>96805142
She cute
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>>96805466
Clarissa gets more field control but yeah. It's a somewhat boring yet super effective 5 attack enabler. I'll definitely be picking it up though.

>>96805890
She is very cute but she'd be cuter with horns.
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>I just finished e4 of wd1.
It's easily the best episode of D I've seen.

The entire part where Mirei shows her development after OD, Yuyu talking to Megumi/Mirei about his frustrations as a leader after losing to Raika, Yuyu creating his new deck and playing with himself.

Zakuza past, his obsession with winning, and his frustration after losing to Yuyu.
Yuyu finding his new ideals in the duel against zakuza.

All of this plus a duel in which Yuyu wins because he knows what cards Zakuza has left in his hand and plays based on that.

I don't believe the writer of this episode is the same as the one in Od
Also Caution as a finisher song is better than He Said.
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>>96808849
Yeah, if Yuyu's series was ever close to being good it's right there in WD S1
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>People said the new lyrical sidelines are just filler
>Both actually look pretty good
Makes me wonder how strong the dressups will be
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remember aura farming vairina
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>>96812088
This is nothing compared to back when fishing season was still a thing
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>>96810035
overdress 2 was decent
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>>96812088
Fenelles was barely an upgrade so cant be very. Charmouts probably the only real thing worth wondering about because shes still pretty strong by todays standards.
Sianas is tommorow and I dont expect much else than
>You can put Grade 3 Sianas in soul to incrase her power on guard
>Addition of SB to the cost of not triggering the bind
>Front row power
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>>96814785
whore
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>>96817777
mirei first
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When are we getting the Palworld/Vanguard crossover?
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>>96808849
Can't wait until you get to the greatest glow-up the Vanguard world has ever seen.
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has anyone got some good deck lists for holo live tcg? im trying to make a deck for Mori but i aint got a fuck of a idea how to do so lmao
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>>96814409
>They wound up doing none of that and also addressed none of her multiple issues that make her brick

Gorgon Gift, Siana
Lyrical Monasterio - <Demon>
"Waa! If got something this cute, I'd definitely be happy!"

[DressUp] - "Gorgon Eyes, Siana" (During this fight, this card is also regarded as the specified card)
[AUTO]:When this unit is placed by riding from "Gorgon Eyes, Siana", look at the top 5 cards of your deck, choose up to 1 card from among them, reveal it, call it to (RC) if it is a normal unit without [Sentinel], or put it into your hand if it is a blitz order. Shuffle your deck.
[CONT][VC]:If your opponent's has a total of 2 or less units on their front row (RC) and (GC), this unit gets [Critical]+1/drive+1.
[AUTO][VC]:At the end of your turn, choose a card from your soul with "Gorgon Eyes, Siana" as its original card name, and ride it as [Rest].

They gave her an Imigrar clone to go with thisthat also needs the opponents front row to be empty for it to revive so god help you if you cant bounce for consistent persona rides but this is all super unfitting support for Siana. 2 of the 3 DressUps and the new units are flat out winning.
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>>96822645
They made Rakshasa for a deck that was already fairly strong but made this for Siana?
Best shot now is a blitz order package on par with lascaria, an imigrar sounds good on paper but it better not be one of those shitty on ride recursions from set 11.
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>Urara win against mirei drawing a heal trigger to draw trigger to critical trigger
>100% winrate so far
This has to count as cheating right?
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>>96826607
Welcome to one of the parts a lot of people don't like about Will+Dress.
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>>96826777
At least she got her clapback in D2 by drive checking crit into offensive Dragveda in her rematch with Urara.
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>>96826607
The power of Not!Psyqualia
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Mirei just wants onii-chan's love.
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remember
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Today I learnt Mirei is a streamer
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>>96829929
bruh
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What’s the Weiss Schwarz scene like where you live, anon?
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>>96831980
>Weiss Schwarz scene like where you live
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>>96829436
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>>96826777
I found it funny, dunno why the seethe.
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>>96831980
nonexistent
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>>96832640
Some don't like it when the fan favorite loses to a new character, others don't like how it was done via miracle 6th damage heal into a sacky comeback that also implies she has magical powers.

Episode 6 picks up most of the slack and most of Michiru's cardfights in general are pretty well done.
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DZ has too many femoids. We need a sexist writer.
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Fucks her brother
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>>96835291
KINO
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>>96836045
Fuck the whole city
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#NomoreDivinedecks
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>>96834047
The result of Erika vs Akina was pretty sexist
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>>96834499
The pivot is really cute, I'm glad we can play Nirvana stuff in Bav now and hope Nirvana gets to dip in on it the other way.
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Am I crazy or are the common cards getting worse and worse with each set? Before there was one or two there were sort of maybe good, but now it's just all trash.
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>>96854401
They got better and then they got worse again recently.
I don't know why don't just print RR quality support at common for shitter decks. A RR that makes SacGlass better isn't going to cost anything so might as well ship that shit as a common.
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>>96854401
Says alot to the reverse power creep that one of magnus' saving graces is a common from four years ago and as a boss is still beaten by a card from two years ago outside of extremely specific situations that also still rely on having said card in your hand for it's best kill turn
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>>96854401
In the context of the Lyrical reveals im pretty sure its because they dont want this set to be the one that shakes up the meta. The new dressups getting screwed is testament to that.

In their defense however my pics not bad. Discard OT, recover OT with the EB fish and its an easy 60k attack.
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>>96856750
That's only a slightly better version of this one common from set 6, which is held back by the CB1 and it would be a strong generic otherwise because it can swing 15k somewhat reliably and sometimes hit for 63k.

That's still better, but it took over three years to get there.
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>>96858014
Is it really better though? You can just recycle the over from drop with the Inhaler Pit and etc... Meanwhile, the lyrical card makes you discard the over from hand.
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>>96859314
Dark States is possibly the most CB heavy nation and this card will amount to a wack tech choice for the games where you find the OT in hand early and use it to ask for a PG check later, which admittedly can make for a ghetto combo with Crucial Dragon.

A fair 1-of in Time Stamping just in case; Illustoire can use the cycler from festival booster 2024 to recover the discarded overtrigger for EB3, so you can still guard with it on the next turn while there's practically no way to recover the OT when used by Phase Transition.
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Anime news when?
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>>96861315
akina will win the final fight, sorry to spoil you
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>>96861390
No way
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[DressUp] - "LèVreSœurS, Charmout" (During this fight, this card is also regarded as the specified card)
[ACT][VC][1/Turn]:COST [Counter Blast (1)], choose a number of grade 2 or less cards with "LèVreSœurS" in their card names from your soul or drop with the number chosen being less than or equal to your opponent's vanguard's grade, call them to (RC), and this unit gets [Power] +5000 until end of turn.
[AUTO][VC]:When this unit attacks while not boosted, choose 3 of your grade 2 or less rear-guards with "LèVreSœurS" in their different card names, and increase or decrease their [Power] to match this unit's [Power] until end of turn. If this unit's [Power] is 33000 or greater, and your opponent's vanguard is grade 3 or greater, COST [Soul Blast (2)], until end of turn, the back row center column rear-guard chosen by this ability can attack from the back row, performs drive checks, and if you persona rode this turn, COST [discard a card from hand], and it gets drive +1 until end of turn.

Charmout won
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>>96861390
If it's gonna be a prelude series then he may lose it as a cliffhanger.
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>>96863230
>best one before gets best upgrade
I'm tired bros
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>>96865349
The dress up upgrades are so minimal it was bound to happen. End of the day anyway Charmouts not strong enough to be anything more than rogue, the same goes for Fenelle and Siana got cemented as some troll deck.

Its a petdeck set
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Holy fuck Alk is terrible.
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Happy halloween Bushi. Youre gonna get your dick sucked by a ghost tonight
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>>96883472
Nice
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wd ep 6 megumi fight
>Are you scared?
>Are you going to fight for real now?
>if you get lucky i would have to think a little
Why is Michiru a shittalker?
Also the duel was pretty good since he wins by cucking megumi turn with no counters to use in her turn
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wd ep 7 raika vs taizo
>have 5 cards raika 0
>use only 2 cards to defend
>lose a 43k vs 43k
what is this garbage, pro my ass
atleast he is cool
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wd 8 yuyu vs taizo
Its taizover
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Also what was the point of the fraud group
They dont talk
They dont fight
only 1 pass group phase
Are they important in wd2/3?
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>>96885827
>Why is Michiru a shittalker
Hes autistic
>>96886265
a few get screentime in the D2 manga and mondo has a slightly relevant fight much later in the anime
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How's Weiss nowadays? My friends want to rope me back into it.
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I went through some of my inventory. I have 12 V decks that were mostly built that never got to see play from VBT08 onward. It would be more if I didn't stop huffing copium about our locals coming back after covid, so I didn't buy any of the Reverse clan selection cards.
It's pretty depressing. Even if locals survived, V got replaced with D so they'd still likely be completely unplayed.

I even fell for the VBT09 Gun Salute support.
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>>96885827
He just wanted Megumi to stop being a shitter.

>>96886031
Raika's plot armor was stronger, in fact, Raika was kinda disliked back in the day because all his wins would just be plot armor topdecks.

>>96886265
>Are they important in wd2/3?
LMAO
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>>96876085
>>96883524
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>>96886265
They really just wasted a bunch of character designs for no fucking reason. Atleast the B-hero dad got an episode in DZ.
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New gravidia when? Masque is pure dogshit.
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>>96892853
Probably a while since they gave gravidia a yuika clone in dzbt10, which helps Masques avoid minusing for the attack extension and also allows double value on bacuburito.



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