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>TMNT causing longtime players to hate Magic
>not the Walking Dead
>not Doctor Who
>not Furbies
>but TMNT, a well loved nostalgia classic
Why?
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>>96733429
this is an ad paid for by league of legends
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>>96733429
The last straw
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>>96733429
I am a pig and I eat slop post came out
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>>96733429
Who the fuck plays a 5 color deck?
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>>96733517
I do in pioneer and edh
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>>96733429
A handful of secret lair cards or a precon deck is easier to ignore than an entire set release. It's not that people liked the other crossovers, but that it has grown to be too much to ignore.
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>>96733429
>Furbies
The fucking what now?
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>>96733540
>this is too far!!!
>*proceeds to buy it again*
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>>96733429
>joyless faggot who probably bought several hundred dollars worth of every other fucking crossover set pretends he's too cool for TMNT
>he will continue to be a slop-eating paypiggy anyways
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>>96733730
Not a good comparison considering playing, making videos and writing articles about Magic is his job.
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>>96733429
Because it reminds them they're just overgrown kids spending too much money on children game. (Verification not required.)
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>>96733429
I'm not into magic really but my friends were showing me some of the cards, it's surprising how fucking awful the art is.
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>>96733429
Maaaan.

I feel sorry for the people who loved this game back when it was still cool.

But then, you can say the same for the fans of any formerly influential entertainment format nowadays.

>Sports
>Literature
>Film

All of it's shit.
But that's OK; it's a great excuse to try out hobbies that aren't dependant on constantly feeding money into a company that you low-key hate, and know even if only subconsciously, also hates you back.
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>>96733429
I like tmnt. I still have my archie comics. I still have my black and white mirage. I have a copy of the first issue. I love magic. Ive played since 93. We cube weekly now that the lgs only fails to fire commander fnms. I played competitivly for 20+ years. My first reaction to these cards was utter revulsion. Just pure disgust. Like something died and you just found its decomposing corpse
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>>96733429
>twd
Has zombies, also just not a big profile set. You can ignore it if you prefer the main lore.
>doctor who
Has lots of magic and can theoretically connect to any universe so it works ok as a small side set. You can also ignore it
>furbies
Joke, impossible to take seriously
>tmnt
A seriously done set, in a setting with zero connection to magic or the lore it has. It's so disconnected
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>>96733429
I believe someone summed it up as thus:
12 years to return to Lorwyn
6 months to return to New York

Caution: Food Analogy, but even if you like the junk you're eating if you start to choke on it you're not going to go reaching for more for a good while.

I didn't want to hate the Spiderman set, because I like Spiderman. I disliked it because it was a pretty bad set outside of one keyword mechanic and a few singles.

I have zero expectations for TMNT and they've been continually lowering. Even in isolation to the IP "Lets make a token that makes a counter at sorcery speed" feels like a joke.
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>>96733858
Being a professional paypiggy is still shameful even if he gets paid for it.
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>Jim Davis

So what is Riftbound?
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>>96733429
https://every.to/p/breaching-the-trust-thermocline-is-the-biggest-hidden-risk-in-business

TL;DR the straw that broke the camel's back is a measurable phenomenon when it comes to customer trust in a company.
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>>96733429
Because they were all adult media and Furbies is a secret lair
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>>96734075
You can add in the factor that each of these new collaboration sets seem to be coming out faster and faster. LotR was in June 2023, Final Fantasy was June 2025, Spider-Man was September 2025, Last Airbender is November 2025, Final Fantasy is getting more releases in December 2025 and TMNT is February 2026.
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>>96733429
TMNT is shitty franchise beloved exclusively by the worst funko-pop nostalgia consoomers out there. Even as a kid I thought it was lame.
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>>96733429
They'll just release more LGBTQXYZ cards to get these fags back.
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>>96733889
What do you think about the art here, anon?
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>>96733575
As an Edhonlytard who has an extreme distaste for all things UB I don't really distinguish between sets playable in Standard or not, but missing Standard releases hasn't really had any bearing on me.
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>>96734278
I don't really count the Christmas boxes as a separate release, but otherwise that's fair.

>>96734369
The problem with standard playable sets is that if they're getting opened in draft and for constructed, it increases the supply for other formats. Some cards explode in price over scarcity which can be a pain in the ass, though of course this does nothing for cards that are OP and sent to the moon cause everyone in constructed wants a playset.
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>>96733429
UB should be one off small releases like secret lairs.
not full blown sets
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>>96734425
>I don't really count the Christmas boxes as a separate release, but otherwise that's fair.

It still showcases how UB is dominating the release schedule. I'm pretty certain that in other years the equivalent boxes would have been built out of non-UB sets.
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>>96733429
To be fair to The Walking Dead, at the very least they made in universe versions of them later on. However all this cross over shit is very tiring, the only plus side is I get to save money on magic by skipping the UB sets I don't care about.

>>96734353
No one can convince me Black Aragorn wasn't done purely to instigate fake and gay race arguments that in turn lead to "Magic the Gathering has a serious racism problem" click bait articles to generate free marketing for the set.

How long do you guys think it will be until we get a full Minecraft set?
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>>96733452
Good. Magic needs a competitor worth a damn and advertising is an important part of becoming one.
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>>96734666
>How long do you guys think it will be until we get a full Minecraft set?
Hopefully Hasbro collapses before that happens.
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>>96734701
Given how badly Windows 11 and the new Xbox shit is going for Microsoft, its more likely that they'll collapse first which would leave Minecraft ripe for one of Hasbro's many last minute hail-mary to save the company purchases.
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>>96733429
Everyone is finally getting burnt out on repackaged bullshit pillaged from childhood toys that were also corporate churn.
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>>96734353
This isn't bad because he's black, it's bad because it's boring. The aesthetic also doesn't scream Tolkien to me, but that's because we're all, to a degree, Peter Jackson brained.
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>>96733429
Content creators went insane over Spooder Man and made all the no games players think they are in good company.
Most of the e-celebs who cried about spider man don't care about them.
It's just retards on twitter and bluesky trying to earn 4chan good boy points by repeating a meme they don't even understand.

I also highly doubt most of the types constantly crying have played a game of magic in years.
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>>96734866
Him being black IS bad. LOTR is supposed to be the founding myth of England. So what the fuck would a nog be doing in anything having to do with it?
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>>96733429
>>but TMNT, a well loved nostalgia classic
The other three listed were small release for specific formats. TMNT is a main set release that you're expected to engage with in every format now. I have mild nostalgia for it, but no desire to pay markups just so I can draft with my friends. A lot of the hate for these would go away if they were priced the same as every other MTG set.
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>>96733429
It's because it's not just a commander slop secret lair, it's going to be a full mainline standard set. BIG difference
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>>96733429
It's just the last straw
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>>96734353
Pic related will always be my favourite.
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>>96733429
Have they done a monopoly cross over yet?
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>>96733429
Isn't this one a normal set while those were all some sort of supplementary product?
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>>96733517
Nobody but they still gotta print them for community engagment reasons
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>>96733429
>not the Walking Dead
Viewed as a fluke at the time
>not Doctor Who
Relegated to Commander which is sold as the relaxed casual format
>not Furbies
Small Drop again for the Casual Commander Format
>but TMNT, a well loved nostalgia classic
>Why?
Three things
1. For the majorly of established players even if they dislike the format, on some level tsee he Standard format of the game as having different cultural expectations placed upon it that Commander which the majority of previous products of this kind were built for never had. Since the crossover content is now in standard there is a higher expectation placed upon it
2. Wizards has now gone mask off tot he point where it can no longer be denied that the game now belongs to crossover content with no real standards since up tp this year all the big releases were at least fantasy themed showing some level of care, which leads to...
3. The Spider-Man crossover just came out and it was bad, like dogshit bad and another modern day set based in New York that hits a similar tone but even more childish broke the collective cope from enfranchised players that Hasbro was the only ones to blame and that Wizards had any real restraint.

TLDR: The rot has finally breached so deeply into the game that its started to mold, and anyone who knew how it was before the rot started finally believes it can't be fixed.
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>>96733517
A huge problem with modern MTG sets is they keep adding legendaries with prohibitive multicolour casting costs for EDH niggers. The cards are unusable in standard.
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>>96734353
>>96735314
The ivory white Haradrim were the cherry on the shit sundae
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>>96735473
I fully expect the Legendary rule to be removed for 60 card formats within the next two years. It will either go away entirely or be a tag used to denote things you can put in the command zone for EDH.
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>>96733456
>The last straw
dont give straws to turtles.
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>>96734188
Just another silly card game.
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>>96735042
Lotr is a fictional story about tiny magic men who throw magic ring into a volcano. You got really confused somewhere along the line, my friend.
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>>96733429
>TWD
Secret Lair
>Doctor Who
Commander-only product
>Furby
Secret Lair
>TMNT
Completely standard legal full set that's taking the spot of what should've been an actual Magic set
Magic is being pushed out of Magic, representing actual Magic players being pushed out of Magic by commander players as WotC increasingly powercreeps and designs cards for commandtards
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>>96735485
Why are long time players still listening to any rules changes by wotc?
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>>96735557
Tolkien himself stated the intent for what LOTR was supposed to be. It's a cornerstone of culture, inserting those that don't belong there is subversive and undermining.
>African founding myth, filled with Whites and Asians
Why haven't we seen that? It's an agenda that's being pushed, solely on Whites and Asians. we wuz everything, vikings, knights, samurai, etc.
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>>96735557
>teehee if I dumb it down it means you're dumb for caring
Go fuck yourself.
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>>96735314
>going out of their way to cram a black guy in
kek
And they will tell you they didn't have an agenda. Nuhuh.



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