Previous: >>96733800The Big Questions Edition>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-april-22-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.com/https://www.pdhrec.com/>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Make custom cardshttps://magicseteditor.boards.nethttps://mtg.designhttps://mtgcardsmith.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed) (embed)>How to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>TQ:Women: we can all agree they were a mistake, but is it fair to blame them? Discuss.>Alt TQ:Has anyone ever won with a group hug deck? What is the wincon here? Why would you ever play it?
>TQMy vote is that it is fair to blame women
>TQpicrel>alt TQHeliod the Radiant Dawn. Your wincon is drawing your whole deck with X spells. You would play it because it's great fun to draw cards.
>>96740619Wow what a garbage TQ. Please don't make the thread again.
>TQI like both men and women so don't ask me>alt TQwanted to build one but I feel like it wouldn't go well with my play group
>>96740619No. The fault is with WotC. This has been the case ever since they implemented the RL.
>>96740619In bumbleflower the wincon is often getting smacked in the face with a 20/20 flying BunnyIn my group hug it's things like underworld dreams and iron maiden
>>96740673Nobody else seems to mind, you seething leftoid
>>96740692Ok /pol/tard
>>96740695I'll never understand why you redditors come to a site knowing it's chuddie and then cry your fucking eyes out when someone says something chuddie as a jokeJust fuck off back where you came from
>>96740695Nothing is beyond /our/ reach
Group hug works a lot better if you enjoy politics (the game kind.) A lot of this thread hates that and wouldn't leverage the group hug aspect.
>>96740701>resorts to boogeyman namecallinglmao. just fucking lmao. used to be gaia online, then tumblr, now reddit. It's just so pathetic.
>>96740705>works a lot better if you enjoy politicsPolitics doesn't exist. You will never politick someone out of making the optimal play unless its the most "beer and pretzels" everyone's-basically-playing-a-bracket1 kind of table
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>96740714Confirmed no games.
>>96740703Leftists could never create art with such sovl
When your dumb ass tries to convince another player to make a less retarded decision (like having god awful threat assessment) you are doing politics.
Any suggestions for good versions of counterspell in dimir aristocrats/artifacts?On a related note: How many variations of counterspell should you run?
This thread kind of sucks. Post decks to make it suck less.
>>96740730>On a related note: How many variations of counterspell should you run?no less than 8 if you're playing counterspells at allideally 12+
>>96740730All
>>96740719Look man, one of my favorite decks is Eriette of the Charmed Apple. I have it full of debuffs and buffs so I can try to bargain with people and punish them for doing things I didn't want.It. Does. Not Work.In fact one guy even fucking sac his roided up unblockable commander instead of swinging it for lethal against another player because he said I was "king making" as I knew I couldn't win but asked for 2nd
>>96740711>>resorts to boogeyman namecallingRemember when you posted: >>96740695 ?
>>96740800Not that time, but like 2 or 3 threads ago that would've been me
>>96740735Axonil is the greatest mono colored commander
>>96740744correct, I tried playing family friendly jon irenicus and the players would cast removal on their creatures instead of forced attacking to avoid "being mean"
>>96740807Mono red is boring
>>96740619> TQ: Group hugYes; with my War is Hell group hug deck. Ruric Thar was my commander. I gave everyone ramp and +1/+1 counters to build their armies, before goading everything every turn. Ruric was chosen to encourage combat.
>>96740744There are 4 people at my LGS I've seen play her and not once have any of them won with her. Once people start getting drained for like 3-4 per turn, everyone starts panicking and it immediately becomes a 1v3 game
>>96740735https://moxfield.com/decks/qLezCuFUbEi0_v-yIzl5QQanyone else play kain? he's been my new favorite, lots of shenanigans
>>96740804>HEY LOOK GUYS I JUST LEARNED HOW TO RMB>INSPECT!I have no idea why you faggots still try this shit
>>96740812shhhhh
>>96740825>muh consoleWe know you're from /pol/, you don't have to confirm how retarded you actually are.
>>96740817>Once people start getting drained for like 3-4 per turn, everyone starts panicking and it immediately becomes a 1v3 gameSad but fuckin' true.I have no idea what it is, people people absolutely shit themselves over the life drain. I can tell them, literally at this rate they won't even be dead in 5 turn's time, they do not fucking care.I have won with her, but it's been from explosive turns like Retether unexpectedly bringing it all back in the mid to late game
>>96740831Concession accepted lefttard, enjoy your stay on a site you hate
>>96740847>I have no idea what it is, people people absolutely shit themselves over the life drain.There's a very big hump that newer/novice-level players have to get over when it comes to life, and for some it's straight up impossible to do so. I've shown cards like Greed/Phyrexian Arena to friends less experienced with the game and they think they're some of the worst card draw cards in the game. They can't fathom the idea of using life as a resource, or how 40 life is actually large amount they can tank shit with, only that it's a sacred thing that must be protected at all costs and they need to gain as much as possible with lifelink/life gain effects
>>96740847>I have no idea what it isgroup slug that isn't shut down promptly tends to run away with games quite easily. Eriette isn't a group slug deck as such but much the same logic applies, since her ability to lock out others' creatures grows expotentially as other players die.
I can tell TMNT is going to suck for a couple reasons.No one and I mean NO ONE asked for reddit-tier humor.> Adorkable> HacktivistIt doesn't matter if its the sort of thing found in the cartoon. Then adapt the IP to something more serious. Take a darker look at it. Only pure $oy consumers will consume that. The only characters that people care about are April and Bebop/Rock. If they actually wanted to harness nostalgia, they would have used OG April for the art. Fewer millenials will recognize scientist april or care at all.Bebop/Rock were always the more relatable villains for 2 reasons. They were always getting there ass kicked by the turtles and there balls kicked by shredder. They are sympathetic for that reason and in general appealed to kids for being 'badass' yet downtrodden. Also, they were by far the biggest male/furry appealing characters for reasons that i won't elaborate but iykyk. The fact that WotC gave the best abilities to Krang and Shredder shows they really don't understand their own fanbase. Wotc thinks the furries and lgbt++ which they cater to don't want a busted card for these two?L, Maro, you retard
This card should be banned
>>96740943antisemite
>>96740943>implying quirk chungus isn't exactly the target audiencethey're making a marvel superheroes set and a fucking star trek set, the OG quirk chungus series
>>96740955This but unironically
I am having a hard time picking a predh commander. I thought it would be easy considering the smaller pool of options.
>>96740955fuck you and fuck your life gain deck gay boy hate pieces SHOULD exist for popular strategies
>>96740970I mean would you feel that way if a card shut off combat damage for the rest of the game?
>>96740955Hate pieces are healthy for the game and anyone that says otherwise is bad at the game
>>96740976Maybe if it did it until it leaves. Being able to entirely remove a player with some 3 drop is gay
SHEEEEEEEEESH These dead ass boomers low key using franchises nobody cares about. No cap.
>>96740974yes, but then I am a filthy stax enjoyer. nothing ever happening is what I come to do.
>>96740993
>>96740974I would 100% love it until the day I die. I would never lose a game ever again (unless I get milled out)
I think I finally found a jund commander I might enjoy. What kinda fucking giant ass spells can I pull off with this dude? The deck is gonna be like.. fucking.. 35 1-2cmc haste dudes and ~30 dumbass timmy spells
>>96740974>>96740955No card effect should ever last for an entire game. It is not possible to interact with. Cards should only have effects in specific zones, on the battlefield or in the grave etcIf Screaming Nemesis said>While this card is in the graveyard, your opponents cannot gain lifeIt would be much fairer
>>96740999X spells should always be your go-to whenever your game plan is just generating a lot of mana
>>96741069Yep that was the first thing on the list. Mass reanimate to get all my dudes back to create a shitload of more treasures was second. Would've been nice if he had blue for the easy combat card draw but oh well
>>96741060>No card effect should ever last for an entire gameNo way fag you won't take my baby
>>96740976So, if you were rolling up with a Varolz or something and someone hit you with a 3 drop that said, "if a player is dealt combat damage by ~, they can't sacrifice permanents to pay for spells they cast or abilities they activate", you'd be fine?
Strong black woman leader type legends
>>96741124What part of "hate pieces are healthy for the game" did you not understand? If a single card shuts down your entire deck, you made a bad deck.
>>96741125Lyra Dawnbringer isn't black
>>96740683Cringe Nekusar shitter, or based Winter enjoyer?
>>96741158>>96740735
>>96740735>>96741158It isn't Nekusar so you get a pass. Interesting deck, I like it.
>>96741125ah yes, prudish black hags, a white teenage nerd's first choiceand yet the black men are all in yugioh lol>>96741144lyra is black, you don't have to cope this hard
>>96741245>the closest, most detailed depiction of her face>clearly not black>"cope"
>>96741125How many more of these types have been added since Eldraine 2?
>>96741140Hate pieces can usually be removed. A RIP can be removed. Even if half your library is in your grave and exiled, you can still dig for other pieces for Muldrotha or Lurrus or whatever. It hurts, but it's not scoop-worthy.I'm all for hate pieces. I have a gross Atla hatebears deck that gets groaned at when I bring it out. But, you can remove shit. Even if Avacyn and hexproof Sigarda are out, a good Toxic Deluge, Farewell, or Shadowspear effect + removal are answers. And there are probably hundreds more I'm not thinking about.The point is that it's pretty untenable for a lifegain deck to come back from that outside of non-lifegain.
>>96741125Where's Sisay?
>>96741256>wotc allowing an artist to deviate from a character's skin colorlolthis is how donato would draw a white person who's drawn against the light, it's not the same
>>9674130590's sisay was never a DEI character
>>96741328why?
>>96741291As an addendum, I don't think I can think of a card that hoses a deck archetype like that and has an effect for the rest of the game. Maybe a Planeswalker Ult of some kind? But that's hardly comparable to a 3 drop Haster nor is it comparable to a typical lifegain hate piece like Leyline of Punishment because removal exists.
>>96740703Oh, sweet faggot, sweet faggot. It's not the misogyny or racism that unites us. It's that the internet connects us in our worst possible selves as men and through it we have altered reality itself. Blessed boy, how you miss the forest for the trees.
>TQI love my wife.>Alt TQ:I actually have a Bumbleflower deck and I have won in the following ways.1.Triskaidekahile and Teferis protection with thirteen in hand.2. Twenty Toed Toad, reliquary tower, massive card draw, and a few counterspells3. Simic Ascendancy to >20 and a Teferis protection.4. Casting Hivemind and Forced Fruition and then decking everyone with a few simple cheap draw spells.5. Casting Fractured Identity targeting Hivemind and everyone scooped rather than deal with the chaos.I always used to looked down on grouphug but this has become one of my favorite decks.
>>96741332because sisay was a good character in her own right (as good as an mtg ip can be) while still giving gerrard his time as protag, meanwhile samut (the one you could forgive the most out of all the 2020's era black wahmen) took away the spotlight from a character more deserving of it, djeru
>>96740619>TQi don't blame women any more than i would blame a child, and i treat them both pretty much the same way
>>96740744Situations like that are why I only make decks where I'm the problem from the beginning. If I'm going to be targeted id rather it be because its the smartest play. Politicking decks only get spited and group hug is for quirk chungus king making redditors.
>>96741373Most of this thread has wives. Doesn't mean they think highly of women
>>96741388So then wouldn't the majority of the black women on that image not count when they aren't major characters in any right?
>>96741424they count precisely because they're diversity hires with no story relevance and yet fail at the most basic of fanserviceyou people keep insisting that it's fantasy therefore anything goes but you keep forgetting that this game is ultimately a white man's game and ironically the more anime you put in mtg the more black men you get lmao
There shouldn't be ANY black women in MTG unless I find them attractive.
>>96740955Just you wait until the year is out.
>>96741444She'd be so much more attractive without all that godawful makeup
>>96741440nigger what do you mean you people I'm asking because I wanted to know why Sisay wasn't in the image
>>96741471>>96741388
>>96740619>TQLiterally answered last thread>>96737638I play it because its fun to give people extra resources. It changes the way a lot of decks play and because you are preparing for it, the upsides still favor you
>>96740735Non standard frames look like dogshit, thanks for reminding me to remove them from my lists
>>96741444This but all women
>>96741482Ok?
>>96740955
>>96741540He obviously means cards that effect the game even after they're removed, which is 100% a fair point
Mark wants this game to be Marvel Rivals so I help him by cheating in casual games like people do in Rivals.
>>96740619I built a group hug deckI won by copying Nine Lives and giving it to everyone then blowing them upand I did it the hard way, none of that Fractured Identity bullshit
>>96741125>>96741305>>96741444rolling my nubian queen
>>96741662Suck on my lizard
>>96741662I don't want any of these, this is basically who I want to enslave. Rolling for Zimone, stop trying to make her popular Wizards
>>96741662roling
>>96741662let'sa go
>>96741779oh fuck yeah I just built her deck, neat
>Gishath is poorly-designed because it's an explosive must-answer card that either wins the game or isn't allowed to survive a rotation>Pantlaza is great design because it's setup and payoff at the same timeWe found the WotC designer.
>>96741790if he makes bad videos, why do you keep watching him
>>96741799Because social media has ruined people. There's tens of millions of people out there that are completely addicted to getting mad.
>>967407306-8
What are the most fun deck themes?Whether it's cool art of a certain kind, mechanics, or tribe
>>96740817>>96740847Took her apart for this exact reason>everyone has a flooded board>I have eriette, a support creature or two and a few enchantments>instantly hated out when I drain for 3
>>96741305>>96741332The actual answer is because his country didn't have internet when Sisay was relevant
>>96741256In what world is that art not black
>>96741799because anyone that defends pantlaza when it's just a combo from the command zone needs to be laughed at, god forbid people actually believe it's a well designed card
>>96741935>I am a pig and I eat slop
>>96741808A good example is a lot of people in this thread calling other people pigs who eat slop. They clearly hate MTG so why are they still here obsessing over every stupid decision wizards makes? We're addicted to watching others fail, schaudenfraude.
>>96741939>UB out of fucking nowheremindbroken
>>96740735Settled on a mono red commander in Ivora. Draw, discard, pump her to big levels and have her survive my own board wipes. It's simple and fun. Probably going to work on another mono red eventually, something related to exile play considering red is stock full of them probably Laelia, but for now I like Ivora.
today i cut two cards from my deck and added one moreproductive day
>>96741964literally rent fucking free.
>>96740955>$20
>>96740692Kill yourself
>>96742122don't project your own death wish on us leftoid
>>96742104that's a good thing because pieces in a strategy game should be restricted to people with money
K-Slop Whalehunters Secret Lair
>>96741125Who the fuck makes something like this?
>>96741662rollan for angels
>>96741799>>96741808If you don’t challenge your own viewpoints and only consume content you agree with, you are in fact the irrational one
Is this the most thought provoking TQ of all time? There’s some good debate ITT
>>96742239Ah yes you're correct, allow me to go read Mein Kampf and other fascist bullshit and I'll come right back to this conversation.
>>96740619TQ:I only blame leftist women. They are the ones pushing to change shit, besides creating drama, more politics in EDH and sucking at the game. I have only met two (2) girls who were actually good at the game, and both were quite intense anti-feminists.Alt TQ:Yes. Just being a chill guy. To keep getting invited to play.
>>96742253This bait isn’t even good. Who are you expecting to hook with this bait?
>>96742227>Who the fuck makes something like this?wotc obv
Is my Hearthhull deck an honest bracket 3?https://moxfield.com/decks/33PMyuYl-EigD5aUaA5HSA
>>96742269>6 tutors>exactly 3 game changers>over 1k usdlol no
>>96742269this is underpowered for bracket 3downgrade to bracket 2 and you'll have a better time, as all land decks in that bracket tend to have
>>96742269Yeah.I think it is about as honest as my ninja deck.https://moxfield.com/decks/mU6Xiu0lE0S2ByEYN7R5IA
>TQ>Has anyone ever won with a group hug deck? What is the wincon here? Why would you ever play it?A guy in my extended pod wins with a modified bumbleflower precon...maybe not all the time but definitely not a zero winrate. The win condition is to whittle the game down to a 1v1 and then use a protected ms bumbleflower to seal the deal.
I wonder if the dong zhou player still posts here
>>96742269I remember you, Sol Ring cutting faggot
>>96740730>wasted a perfectly good quicksilver bullet for muh warning shotBaka fucking gaijin
>>96741662trips check'm
How casual is Talrand if I take all spells?For reference, my group wants to do a "semi-pauper" where commanders are rares but everything else is uncommon/common. Didn't know if anybody else has ran Talrand in a similar environment.
>>96742409There's several of us, but yes
>>96742649Need more pictures like thisMy magic folder is direly lacking
>>96742648any reason you go with rarity and not total deck price?I have always found the latter to foster more deck diversity (since you have a budget and not such a strict limit on the card pool)
I don't mind UB and I think people who genuinely dislike it are genuinely just kind of stupid and don't have real problems to worry about in their life.
>>96740943No one gives a fuck about flavor text.No one gives a fuck about lore.No one gives a fuck about art.The only thing that determines a set's success are how powerful it is. People will bitch and cry about playing Ninja Turtle cards but if the set has new staples and generally good cards they will use them through their tears.
>>96742785FALSE a good card with a cute girl will sell more than a good card with an ugly ogre FACT TRUTH NUKE
>>96741662One cutie, please
>>96742791Yes if both cards are the exact same level of good (or are in the same) but one has better art, people in general will be willing to spend $10-40 more but that has nothing to do with what I said. The people calling UB slop will play UB if it's a good or better card, because 90% of the playerbase are in fact slop consumers who rely on pushed cards, hence why 90%+ of decks have Sol Ring in it and why The One Ring gets so much play despite being $60+ dollarydoos (it'd be in 90%+ decks if it cost $1-10 dollars).The only way UB fails is if WOTC keeps printing Spider Man tier underpowered sets.
>>96742876I wouldn't play it even if it was cheap.I got a better draw engine in my command zone.
>draw engine in the command zone>ramp engine in the command zoneholy cringe
>>96743104>Aesi in the command zone
>>96743104heh thankfully my prosper does neither of these things since he exiles but doesn't draw and refunds mana and doesn't ramp
how many trumpet blast and token makers should I be running in my balmor deck? There's like 3 or 4 more trumpet blast cards in red and around 6 or 7 more straight 1/1 token or token with prowess makers. Should I be cutting creatures for token making spells? I also feel like I may be running too many lands and rocks.>wee dragonauts or a hordeling outburst or another trumpet blast?https://moxfield.com/decks/1gpNB-2WSUmf4f1dMVDofQ
how does Evereth work? buddy says that she gets +1+1 counters everytime anything on his side is sacrificed even through other avenues and that she can get both the mana from treasures and the counters, but the card clearly says that to get the counters she needs to be the one saccing them with her sorcery speed effect? is he right and I'm just retarded?
Considering running this guy in vamps, thoughts?Seems really strong to me given that he pretty much rapes any other creature decks, especially token ones, but he doesn't seem to be used by many people for some reason so idk.
>>96743364Your interpretation is correct. She doesn't say "whenever you sacrifice", she has "sacrifice x:", which is a cost for an activated ability instead of a trigger for a triggered ability.Your friend is either bullshitting you or retarded.
>>96743400I knew that there was something wrong. this tard was shitting out endless ramp via treasures while also getting his commander stacked up in very few turns, felt oppressive as hell. Thanks
>>96743411Yeah she would be absurdly broken if her effect was a triggered ability lol
>>96743411Yeah, he needs to spend a bit more mana to get that effect in the form of Korvold if he wants it. It's still oppressive when he's out, but at least he comes out a tiny bit later.
Friendly daily reminder that the RC could have banned UB pigslop and saved the game/format and caused irreparable damage to Hasbro stock but they instead sold their format out in exchange for trinkets and cardboard goodies worth less than 5,000 dollars in the form of insider tips about upcoming reprints. And it was all done under the guise of alleged threats. And those threats that led to the dissolution allowed Hasbro to make half a billion dollars selling FF products 9 months later. I'm not pointing fingers because that's slander, but what a lucky set of coincidences!
>>96743471You say that like Hasbro couldn't have just stolen control of the format from them and C&D'd them into oblivion if they resisted.
>>96742664Frankly it's not worth explaining that to the Xoomers (yes with an x) I play with. Their hubris will not account for such a possibility
>>96743471As if anyone would've still listened to them if they banned UB stuff. This is the format where you can play whatever you have lying around with a minimal ban list to still make games enjoyable. Blanket banning sets just torpedoes your credibility and makes people do their own thing or listen to someone else.
>>96743478Sure, they could have. But that would happen AFTER the RC goes on the offense and accelerates the UB Bad/Commanderification of Magic bad sentiment. Instead they went quietly into that good night without doing anything at all. Maybe Hasbro would have went on a legal rampage against a small group of guys passionate about the game but that would be a worse look for them than the pinkertons fiasco. It's not like 2025 was the straw that broke the camel's back or anything, the non-KotC shill influencers would have doubled down on backing their play and whatever the outcome was would have been better than where we're at right now. >>96743495Yes but again, anything would be better than this. If Hasbro wanted to make the power play for the rights to their sacred cash cow they'd at least be fighting a losing battle for it rather than being gifted the keys because someone caught a spooky fright on twitter,
>>96740735
>>96743524They wouldn't be fighting a losing battle because you're in the extreme minority, even people who are moderately anti-UB would consider it an outrageous overreach for a bunch of literal whos to ban entire sets just because they don't like them.
Reminder that WotC does in fact not condone "proxies" as cheaters/counterfeiters like to use them.According to their definition, a proxy is a single-use card issued by a judge for use in a sanctioned event.Printing cards yourself is counterfeiting and not welcome in our community. I paid for my cards so you have to pay for yours. It's only fair.
>>96743541>you're in the extreme minority>The restaurant is doing so well and has so many patrons. How can you be upset? Getting more customers into the restaurant has to be a good thing. No one "moderately anti-UB" would consider it an overreach because they're still anti-UB. There aren't degrees to this, you either want it in the game or you don't. The flavour of the month UB Timmy isn't going to be playing 6 months from now, and that "extreme minority" grows and gets more ravenous for the UB purge every week when the temporary majority Final Fantasy Freddy tourist adds to the churn rate.
>>96742785This is incorrect. You may be an all-consuming insect, but I got into Magic because of its setting and the art on cards. I couldn’t give less of a fuck about the power level of sets. In fact with 6 fucking sets a year I’m glad when some are shit because we don’t need constant powercreep and constant fucking replacement of existing cards.The only thing that matters for power level is what goes in the command zone, and considering there’s already almost 2,700 legal commanders, I think we’ll be just fine for options Congratulations anon, you just learned that other people don’t think the same way you do! Youre one step closer to developing a theory of mind!
>>96743602Well you're just wrong, most people don't want a bunch of faceless retards who aren't even associated with the company that they can't use entire sets.There are very few people who are as extremely anti-UB as you are, there's many people who kinda dislike it but would dislike massive overreach like that more and don't live in a perpetual meltdown over the existence of those sets, even if they don't like them.>muh piggiesHilarious and original! Doesn't change that it's literally true, the council would've just committed suicide if they had chosen to alienate the vast majority of players over a powertrip.You're never getting the game you want back.
>>96743632The longer this shit goes on the more radical rhe moderates get. I know you don’t FEEL like it’s real, but you can go look at the comments on social media posts or YouTube videos about UB; even if the content is positive, the comments are getting fucking tired
>>96743632And you aren't going to have a job or home when the cyclical nostalgia bubble bursts in 5 years, Mark. Ride it while it lasts and hope that the recreation market even survives the recession so you can get a job in the industry after the layoffs.
>>96743669Rosewater is eternal. Isn’t he even quoted as saying he wants Magic to outlive him? He is basically saying he wants it to be his legacy and it will be his success Meanwhile he has done nothing but fucking rape Magic to chase profits for shareholders while gaslighting the playerbase
>>96743564THIS!!!!
>>96743541>outrageous overreach for a bunch of literal whos to ban entire sets just because they don't like them.You mean like Un sets…?
>little league tournament>guy with WW deck use over half of allowed budget with a Elspeth Storm SlayerHe got second place at my table though
>>96742239>I need to watch morons spout retardation to challenge my own viewpointsI get plenty of that here without having to watch a 20 minute video by a retard
>>96742876>The people calling UB slop will play UB if it's a good or better cardshan't
>>96741388Gideon was the one who took the spotlight away from Djeru. What are you smoking?
>>96743471The same annoying faggots who won't stop spamming SLOP SLOP SLOP are also the same annoying faggots who spammed the RC with death threats when they banned your investard crutch cards. The game doesn't need "saving", you faggots just need to stop playing and go cry in other TCG forums.
>>96743471What a retarded post, why would the RC ban UB? Why would the community listen to such a retarded decision? Why do you refuse to believe people are unhinged on the internet. Get help anon.
>>96743614And one day you'll learn most players don't think like you, so sitting there all day pissing and shitting your pants about UB is just you wasting your time and emotions on something the overwhelming majority of the playerbase doesn't care about and which the company will never walk back on.
>>96743564Why are you lying? Wotc calls them PLAYTEST CARDS and they support their use.
>>96743602>there arent degrees>autistic retarded doesnt understand nuanceLove to see it
>>96743641the people retarded enough to ban UB cards simply for being UB are already filthy casuals that only play in their basements and use rule zero very liberallythe ones you're desperately trying to convince are lgs players that know banning UB is bad for business no matter how hard you stomp your foot like a child
If you're on Green, is there a reason to play Crucible of Worlds over Walk-in Closet?
>>96743709un sets are ostensibly joke sets that were never designed to be taken seriously and by the time wotc wanted them to be legal in edh the humor had long overstayed its welcome
>>96743923only the edgiest of edge casesthough, most decks that want a crucible effect run several of them
>>96743868but gideon isn't the character that represents amonkhet, it was either samut or djeru and they didn't give the spotlight to the guy that was once a true believer, wasting all drama and character growth
>>96743880the "death threats" were likely wildly overblown to give the RC an excuse to hand over control to WOTC (likely part and parcel with some form of compensation by Wizards)
>>96743951the death threats were delivered by pinkerton agents direct from wotc lol
>>96743951Kind of irrelevant! Those involved get to decide how seriously they want to take the threats. You might actually have brain damage anon youre saying some of the dumbest shit I've ever read.
>>96743951why would the RC need an excuse? why couldn't they have just ceded control without banning lotus the goblin and mana crypt?
>>96743880the pig is shaking
>>96743926>UB sets are ostensibly joke sets that were never designed to be taken seriously and by the time wotc wanted them to be legal in edh the humor had long overstayed its welcome
>>96743975you got that right baby boy
>>96743880>spammed the RC with death threatsThis didn’t happen. Cute that youre naive enough to believe a PR smokescreen though
>>96743923The only reason I can think of is playing Glissa, the Traitor. Maybe if you run a subtheme that cares about card types and you're in need of more artifacts?
>>96743987>yes yes the death threat was such an elaborate ruse that we're not going to use it again to blow off the UB haters
Can someone explain to me why Lotus Vale's oracle text is an additional cost rather than an ETB? Rogue Elephant from the same set, templated the same way, is an ETB but this isn't, and I do NOT understand why.
>>96744048Because it comes into play untapped and if it were an etb you could just float the mana with the trigger on the stack before choosing to let it die which would be horrendously broken.
>>96744048>why not ETBbeing an actual lotus that you can run a set of with the cost being your land drop sounds pretty broken to me
Fa/tg/uys who have been playing for over 10 years: share the oldest decklist you have on record.>https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/lets-get-this-party-started/Over a decade ago I used to jam this awful Rakdos deck filled with a bunch of terrible temporary steal effects (0 sac outlets) and curses because I thought they were cool as fuck.
>>96744069I mean, is it though? It wouldn't be a lotus really, it'd be a sorcery-speed any-colour dark ritual with the additional cost that you lose the land you used to cast the ritual. But I get your point, and in any case I was more curious as to why it was oracled differently to a card with the same templating- and I now realise the answer, which is that the stack didn't exist when it was printed and the change was to keep it in line with how it worked at the time of printing. Though it does make me sad that I can't stifle the ETB like with lotus field.
>>96744384>I mean, is it though?Yes. There are a million effects that allow extra land drops and pull lands out of the graveyard that would make it easily abusable.
>>96742785>No one gives a fuck about art.the only reason I am playing is because of the art.
>>96744384For comparison, City of Traitors is one of the most powerful lands in Legacy, and it only produces 2 colorless mana.Simian Spirit Guide is a ritual for 1 mana and it's banned in Modern.
>have a few bad games in a row>wonder if I would just stop playing entirely
>>96744682post decklist
>>96744009If they use it again it will be even more obvious.
>>96740735>this thread sucks>posts Dr. Who garbagemega faggot detected
Want to buy a card but I'm unsure if I should do it.>seller is italian>card is the cheapest price by far>card is graded near mint but seller has a 2% rating of misgradingprice is below 10€. greed or go for a reliable country?
>>96744747welcome to edhg, where we do not discuss the format and only try to bait each other into schizoposting
>>96744753Why would you care about the grading of a card under ten bucks?
>>96743104>>96743211>>96743242>not putting a land in the command zone
>>96743395Is it mono black, or orzhov vampires? You could do Ixalan vampires and include some cards like this and Soul Warden then.
>>96744747classic poopdickschizo post
>>96744813>4 mana for a tapped landel oh el
>>96744887A guaranteed 4 CMC +2 mana ramp in the command zone that can easily one shot people with commander damage after you cast a few more spells is quite good, anon.
>>96744913>needing to ramp into rampclassic karametra problem
>>96744523>want city of traitors and grim monolith>"That will be 50 gorillion dollars plus tip"JUST REPRINT THEM
>>96744922You don't need to 'ramp' into having 4 mana. That's something you should easily have on turn 2 or 3.
>>96744913I actually quite like Arixmethes, the flavour and design are very cool, and I'm well aware that 4 mana ramp 2 is a perfectly good rateI'm just being facetious
>>96744048because JOTC realized late they made a black lotus sidegrade and nerfed it in oracle text despite claiming they would never do that
>>96744753How much is the card below the average selling price? Also what's their stock look like, no point getting upset over 5-10yr old penny cards getting slightly mis-graded so it could be an unfair review
>>96744927>you dont need to ramp >just have 4 mana on turn 2???
>>96744934There are some extremely funny things you can do with him.Dress Down also makes him enter immediately as a 12/12 which is hilarious.>>96744938It's entirely possible to have a sol ring, mana vault, or whatever else on turn 1 and then 2 lands in play turn 2.
>>9674493750% below. He mostly has old set foils on sale. I bought because I lost the secret lair lottery today.
>>96743880>death threatsThis is the oldest jewish PR trick and if you fall for it you’re a retard
>>96744741except they can't use it because people don't actually sperg out about UB cards that rarely see play in cedh
>>96744941>just get sol ring in your opening hand broNot the guy you're arguing with, but I still don't believe my decks have a sol ring in them. I never fucking see the thing.
>>96744941>It's entirely possible to have a sol ring, mana vault, or whatever else on turn 1 and then 2 lands in play turn 2thats ramp you actual moron
>>96744953and yet here you are, discussing and playing a jew game
>>96744951>50%buy it then, you're not going to lose that percentage in value going from NM to EX
>>96744903>>96742239This retarded viewpoint does not hold up to even the slightest bit of scrutiny. Its a meme made to push a "diverse" society which has been shown to be a failure.
>>96744924>want city of traitors and grim monolith>"That will be 50 gorillion dollars plus tip>go to the library and print off a sheet of them for a dollar instead
>>96745009Yeah, and what is the big deal? You're playing green. You will have ramp in your opening hand.
>>96742269hey anon, how has the deck been working out for you so far? I run a similar Szarel list that also tries to win with mass sac lands. What other ways to win do you have? I noticed a lot of Lumra combos and how much dmg do you normally get from Valakut Exploration? thanks in advance.
>>96745121Needing to ramp into ramp is an easily disrupted strategy that leaves fewer cards in hand to actually take advantage of the additional mana you generate. This is the classic Karametra problem. If you could read, you would understand that already.
>>96744989I put Worldslayer into my pic rel voltron deck as a joke 6 years ago, still haven't fucking drawn the goddamned thing
>>96740807Do you have a way to cheat the col hammer?
>>96740812Play Purphoros Bronze Blooded, anything but boring
>>96744935It was errata'd when the rules changed which would allow you to tap it before its ability resolved.
>>96745283>using the patron saint of goblins in any other deckHow dare you
>>96745325wrong Purphoros
>>96745237Isn't it funny you'll draw some of the same cards every damn game, but there will a handful you never see? Pisses me off.
>think about brewing every day>8 different unfinished lists on archidekt>no decks assembled IRL except one precon>haven't played a game in months Help, i have brain problems
>>96745237have you considered shuffling?
>>96745430That is unironically a shuffling issueconsider changing your method
>>96745552Show me jackass
Proxying is troon behavior
>>96745615not proxying is piggy behavior. SLOPSLOPSLOPSLOPSLOP HERE PIGGY
>>96744989>when you need business from the top and draw sol ring in turn 7
>try to buy off of secret lair>go to checkout less than 60 seconds after going live>still have a 30 minute wait>everything I wanted sold from under meI know I'm a retard for expecting to buy anything good from the secret lair site but still disappointed. What's the best site for chinamans proxychads?
>>96740619>TQNot me personally but my buddy wins with Gluntch a lot. Usually he just asks why people are targeting him for 20 turns and then Aetherfluxes #2 when the other guys don't kill him
>>96745660I got "in line" 40 minutes early and they still sold out of the artist SLD and the foil Eddie SLD.
Da orcs. Im tempted to remove most of the green cards from this so I can simplify the manabase. Most of the green is just for ramp and frankly this deck is too many lands and ramp and rocks. Its not intended to win exactly, its my version of a theme deck. But I feel like making tje mana base less expensive and removing some ramp for other value might he good idk.
>>96745504nothing some SSRIs wouldnt be able to "fix".be careful though: do you really wanna be that guy with 8+ decks?
>>96745609>show mehow to change your shuffling method? google it retard. There are many ways to shuffle, you clearly are doing your method incorrectly. If nothing else just give it a good pile shuffle every once in a while, break up those clumps.
>>96745701W-what's wrong with having 8+ decks?
>>96745709just ask yourself: is it worth it to become that person?
>>96745709As someone who has way more than 8 decks I only really play about 6 of them with any regularity.I could stand to take apart at least half of them.
any commanders and decks that don't revolve entirely around making a billion of fucking tokens and putting counters? I'm so tired of those two mechanics
>>96745729have you considered not being a shitter and moving away from simic?
>>96745734now nowHe could be Selesnya
>>96745739Whoa whoa whoathems fightin' words. Slander against vitu-ghazi will not be tolerated.
>>96745709I used to have 8 bracket 3/PL 6 decks, but decided to keep 4 of them and scrapped the rest. I used the money from the scrapped decks to upgrade the 4 I had left to bracket 4. I still have a sideboard for 3 of them to downgrade if I have to, but this is what I ended up doing. I might build one more cheap "for fun" deck at some point, but taking a break for now.
>>96745701>do you really wanna be that guy with 8+ decks?Fortunately if I dont count my precon, I only have 7
I like making decks in this deck building game. Easily over 20 and if i wasnt lazy would be even higher
>>96745643> this piece of paper I wrote on with a pen identifies as a legal mtg card!!!Ok, Alice
>>96745795I have completed 459 decks in paper since 2013.
>>96745643>slopslopslop here piggyCan yoi at least get your retard posting right this doesnt even make sense
>>96745801Imagine being so lazy and retarded that you don't know how to order from MPC
>>96745813>Making sensengl low key cringe af no cap
>started playing around RTR>been told pic related sucks, but still wanted to play it>game is dying>starting to close out the bucket list >actually really like the decknever listen to people, they are stupid.
Hey guys, getting into magic and have some questions >Playing with a group who does prebuilt commanders a lot, should I buy a prebuilt to play with them>Can I make an all RNG deck? I like hearthstone evolve shaman and the Reno cards
>>96745657>doesn't have a mana sink on the board turn 7el oh el
>>96745816Yes, you are an NPC and associate with NPC
>>96745878>and associate with NPCGood morning sar
>>96745848>Hey guys, getting into magic and have some questions>>Playing with a group who does prebuilt commanders a lot, should I buy a prebuilt to play with them>>Can I make an all RNG deck? I like hearthstone evolve shaman and the Reno cardsAbandon all hope ye who enter here.J/k, ummm, 1) Yes2) No
>>96745848>evolve shamanpicrelAs for your questions:1) Assuming you don't know shit all else about magic deckbuilding, this is a perfectly reasonable option. You can build your own first deck as long as you're willing to accept that it might suck and that there's a good chance you'll have to scrap half of it.2) Yes, absolutely. Most such effects are in red and some are in green. Look into Etali, Primal Conquerer or Plargg and Nassari.
>>96745860I mean I can activate Mutavault multiple times.
>Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice!
>>96745848>Playing with a group who does prebuilt commanders a lot, should I buy a prebuilt to play with themOf course you can, or you can build your own with the understanding that it may be too weak or too strong, based on your card analysis and deck building skill>Can I make an all RNG deck? I like hearthstone evolve shaman and the Reno cardsPolymorph cards will transform one card on board into another in your deck. You can curate your deck so that the polymorph targets are always big bombs by running only big creatures and using non-creature spells to create tokens to use as poly morph trargetshttps://scryfall.com/search?q=otag%3Apolymorph&unique=cards&utm_source=tagger
>>96745195Anon, you are clearly overthinking things. You just get to 4 mana by turn 3 almost always in a green deck, and if it isn't a good time to play the commander, just play it next turn.
>>96745729+1/+1 counter spam and token spam are some of the most boring strategies imaginable.
>>96745998>token spamMore rectangles = winFundamental truth of the gameGo play ygo if this offends you
>>96745998>hey cool new commander>brew the deck>its just another counter/token pay off deck>scrap the entire thing
>>96745987Explosive Vegetation is a bad card, putting it in your command zone doesn't change that
>>96745963I'm disappointed the actual three times thing was a separate sorcery and not inherit to his effect.
This is by far the most "im a pig and i eat slop" card that was ever made. All people that run this are objectively bad at the game and usually the most retarded type of "lol geek random nerdz xD" type. I hate it so, so, so much.
>>96746010>More rectangles = win>oh no not 25 damage>anyway ill play vizkopa guild mage and gain 40 life
hey guys, is it okay if I play this rule zero card?
>>96746037knock yourself out, conjure is a cool mechanic
>>96745998>+1/+1 counter spamone counter is all i need lil bro
>>96746024I built it just to piss off the hexproof fags for one game and then took it apart because it was too powerful lolz
>>96746024>This is by far the most "im a pig and i eat slop" card that was ever made.thats actually knuckles but its a very close race
>>96746065The thing is, sonic fans are freaks.They're not normalfags chowing down on slop because they have no taste, they're a pack of freakish perverts who have a very specific set of tastes. It's not the same thing.
>>96746024Yeah I hate Deadpool too
>>96746015No, but putting a 12/12 in the command zone is pretty great.>>96746010That's nice anon, can I introduce you to my good friend Aetherize/Aetherspouts>>96746013This is the worst feeling imaginable. Seeing a commander that you think looks cool, but then you build it and it's just generic goodstuff or it has such a generic ability that it synergizes too well with the most boring shit possible.>>96746047Marchesa is different since you aren't just playing 20 counter doublers and sitting there accruing value and doing nothing else.
>>96746047god I love her every single version of Marchesa is a sick cardincluding Battle for FioraI really want a full set there
>>96746024Deadpool is one of the lamest possible cards ever printed. It's like everything wrong with a MTG card.>Slop>Obnoxious and stupid effect that is just 'I turn off your commander lol'>Exclusively played by people looking to make the game as unfun as possible for someone
>tfw getting tempted to make a Nekusar deck nowWHITE MAN CAME ACROSS THE SEAHE BROUGHT NO GAMES FOR THE PS3
>>96746086her deck enables my favorite enchantment ever. I usually just used it in Lifelink decks, but on Marchesa is an absolute flawless engine..
>>96746013Found that happens a few times. Usually when the deck ends up leaning more into natural color synergies and less with whatever the commander is doing inherently. Usually try some retooling until it feels more unique to the commander. Which have this happened to you with?
>>96746024>fucks over fags playing FIREslop>combos with just about anything if you use your headIf it wasn't capeshit it would be based as fuck
>>96746112>lair sold out in an hourHope you're ready to pay Mr scalper 59.99 plus tip for that single anon
>>96746144I managed to get one of the last non-foil ones. I only missed the demonic tutor lair.
>>96746144or Zhang $1
>>96746095>>Obnoxious and stupid effect that is just 'I turn off your commander lol'> DeadpoolNooo you cant just run slop!!!> OkoHeh, looks like your commander got sheeped, noob
>>96744009What is there to blow off? In the RC situation WotC was just taking back the format, something it was already in their power to do, but they needed an excuse that would make even their critics defend them>well I don’t like WotC BUT if it’s for the safety of the RC…Worked a fucking treat.It doesn’t even make more sense? How did it make the RC more safe? It’s not like WotC reversed the bans or could somehow prevent harm to the RC once they had the format.It was illogical and only retards fell for itWith UB why do they need death threats? They can print as much UB as they want, and they’re doing so. They can break any promises they want about the amount of UB, they can gaslightthe player base into believing that theres not enough demand for UW and then just sweep it under the rug when people are more excited for Omen Paths than Spider-Man.They’re in complete control
>>96746159Oko is also a faggot card, anon. One of the most obnoxious and gamebreaking cards ever made.
>>96746159Oko doesnt go in the command zone
>filter s*op>thread improves infinitely/slop\s|slop\W/i;boards:tg;reason:brown;stub:no
>>96746130I love that card, I put it in my deck for Cecil.
>>96746095>I turn off your commander lolbased
>>96746153>mfw only wanted the dt lair and the maiden lair and the maiden one sold put with 5 minutes left on queue
>>96746296The Eddie Unleashed one said sold out for me with 1 min left.Then I got into the store and it was actually still there.
>>96746296fucking hell get yourself together man.
>>96746161i can already tell that you're a filthy casual as banning the infamous trio of cards fucked up cedh meta for the worst and i can assure you the type of westoids that are willing to spend $3k+ on cardboard to play cedh that doesn't even pay you back on investment (like at all) are not the most stable of minds
>>96746095>noooo you can't turn off my crutch my deck doesn't work without it!cry me a ribbit gay boy
>>96746330this
What improvements can I make to this deck, what can I add?https://archidekt.com/decks/16540399/all_about_the_summons_baby
>>96746342what issues do you have when you play it?
>>96746020Yeah, I don't know what WoTC was thinking with that. But it does give my Teval deck one more Grapple from the Past effect, so it's not all bad.
>>96746161Dumb people shouldnt be allowed online
>>96746347I'm building it now and just looking to see if I have any noticeable openings or anything that won't work as intended
>>96746357>Yeah, I don't know what WoTC was thinking with thatIt was actually a pretty cool card in standard for a little bit
>>96741790my friend keeps copying his decklists and god they are fucking dogshit. If i say anything about them he answers "dont question snail" lmao
>>96746371I don't doubt it.
>>96746377Snail has the data bro you cant question it
>>96746342>Lore counters for Falco's top deck casting costOh hey, I like this idea. That being said is there any need for the mana creatures your running? Same with the Cluestone. Wouldn't think you'd need those. Have you done any testing yet to see how it plays out and how you intend to win?
>>96745190>how has the deck been working out for you so far?It's very fun to play and has won ~30% of the dozen or so games I've played with it against other B3 decks. I am currently revising the list a little, with an emphasis on cutting cards that don't contribute to the pay off burn/combo turn where i try to win via mass Hearthy planet-glassing. Tannuk is the first to go as he is a bit superfluous as if I am churning through lands effectively i can often sacrifice everything and recur it two or three times to well and truly kill the table. Summon Titan is a bit slow to set up, and frequently gets removed before it can pop-off. There are a few other cards I've trimmed. >What other ways to win do you have? It is pretty all-in on the land-sac strategy. I've been considering things like the Titania that creates tokens when lands go to the graveyard to create some board presence, as the deck sorely lacks defensive tools as you never want to block with a creature because they're all serving a purpose to propel the above strategy.>I noticed a lot of Lumra combosI tried to avoid this, as otherwise I could just he playing a more casual version of the Lumra cEDH list. I also avoided things like Strip Mine and Glacial Chasm to make the deck less annoying as I don't tend to get a lot of players at my LGS keen for anything over B3 gameplay.>how much dmg do you normally get from Valakut Exploration?Usually only a couple of points, as I tend to try and take advantage of the card advantages it gives. Although I haven't actually seen it many games I've played, so hard to say with certainty at this point.
>>96746370great, let me know how it plays then I can help you.
>>96746377>my friend keeps copying his decklistsI don't get this. Sure, check out other lists and see if they found any synergies you may not have but outright copying a deck feels like it would remove one of the most fun parts of the game. Tinkering and testing stuff. Digging for cards that may just work and seeing if they do or not.
>threat assessment Reddit concept
Post Helga decks!
https://edhrec.com/commanders/helga-skittish-seer
>>96746418Is it though?
>>96746420I got Helga in the 99 in my Doctor Who deck. Its pretty good
>>96746418then what is it called
>>96746418Actually being bad at the game is a reddit concept, so not understanding threat assessment is reddit
>>96746402Awesome, I appreciate the feedback. Strip Mine/Wasteland is so fun though haha, but I hear ya. I also run Tannuk and have been considering swapping him as well. I'd like to replace him with Bristly Bill/Scythe Cub, but those niggas are expensive. For Szarel, I kept in Rampaging Baloths to generate a lot of tokens in case I can't get my sac engine going early enough. Sometimes I hand the game over to Korvold and try to take out someone in one shot. It's hard to balance the +1/1 counters with land sac stuff, so I'm still trying different things out. A lot of games I use Hearthhull to win, but mainly it's through a million Moraug landfall combat triggers. thanks again.
>>96746330>cry me a ribbitunironically laughed
>Guy plays lands from graveyard + strip mine>Make sure he dies>"Why are you targeting me I'm not the threat!!"
>>96746503he was unironically right about not being the threat thoughcrucible-strip mine is good in 1v1 formats but it's pretty dogshit in edh unless you're playing azusa or something.
>>96746503>Guy plays lands from graveyard>target them no matter whattoo many legends let you do this shit these days and cheap instant non-basic exiling spells can't come fast enough
How fun are legends-based decks? Serah Farron looks kinda cool but I'm wary of Selesnya decks since they're often boring. Guess Sisay or maybe Selvala would be better in the command zone, but the question stands. Are they any fun to pilot? I don't wanna end up with a goodstuff generic ball but I feel like a legends-focused deck would easily fall into that.
>>96746540make terra, here's your decklisthttps://scryfall.com/search?q=t%3Alegend+t%3Acreature+ci%3Arbw+pow%3C%3D3&order=edhrec
>>96746503it would be honestly more scary if he just played a fetchland instead
>>96746503Is he destroying people's mana sources? Then yeah target him. Is he destroying people's tech lands that're setting up wins? Then it's pretty based senpai
>>96746576he destroyed my only black source
>>96746589lol sux2bu but also I would've reacted the same way
I like making as many rectangles as possibleI like saccing my rectangles for valueI like effects that benefit me for creating rectanglesI have a stack of actual rectangles to use because dice just dont hit as hard
>>96742654
>>96746492I like the concept of a back-up game plan, but can't decide on how to do it. Not sure if I should dedicate the cut card slots to this, or just ways to protect and enable my land-sac win a lot faster.
>>96746589And you didn't get to do the thing? Toxic behaviour.
>>96746597I like to tap my rectangles to bully people with Glare of Subdual.
>>96746600is there a mairsil deck that's actually good imo
>>96746647For me its this
>>96746663I wish I could run that but unfortunately I am a naya peasant. At least I get Vicious Shadows to make my rectangles valuable sacrifice fodder.
>>96746663I had a simic sissy get pissed off that the table conceded after he played this and had like 40 tokens on board cause he could just tap us down forever. Like bruh I aint playing out the cancer when you can just tap the whole board forever
>>96746782I tend to give it one, *maybe* two turn cycles to see if anyone can pull removal and then concede, but yes I also posted how I'm not playing out locked-down scenarios like this and everyone pounced on me like jackasses. I'm not gonna fucking play "draw, go" for the next 20 minutes, you win gg let's shuffle and play again
How will you feel if someone brings a Dwight commander deck to your table?
>>96746874I wouldn't care at all because it's just a reskin of an already-existing card. They all are, so who the hell cares about them whatsoever?
>>96746874He cute
>>96746874I'd feel inquisitive. I would ask the person who brought it to the table what they like about it because I do not understand the appeal.
>>96746874>no green>not a bears deck with beet themed landsmaximum soullessness
>>96746895You gotta run this one for Green
>>96746906i just don't get how you make a dwight release without bears, beets, and battlestar galactica inspired cardswhat's leagues more embarrassing than universes beyond is how terribly executed the conversions are
>>96746874Probably wouldn't end up mattering anyway. The few times I've seen these reskins in play no one calls them by the reskin name. They just call them Jodah or whatever the reskin originally was.
>>96746800Everyone jumped on you because your idea of a "lock" could be broken by literally any creature or enchantment removal of any kind as well as only locking out creatures from sticking on the board, and scooping to that is the definition of soft.
>>96746944
>>96746949>I don't care so much that I'm still whining about getting dunked on a week laterFooling nobody, big guy
>>96746944the maha dude? the obvious response would be ">i always have it!!!". not everyone always has it, that's why it creates the lock in the first place
>>96746874song of the dryads
