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>>96742843Alt Thread Question:>What's your most favorite Common Card?
I wish drix were spiders instead since it matches their weaving theme and has synergy with swarmyard.
Piggy piggy slop, piggy slop, piggy slop.>Piggy piggy slop, piggy slop, piggy slop!Piggies eat the slop, eat the slop, eat the slop.>Piggies eat the slop, eat the slop, eat the slop!
>>96742865>TQBanish light
2027
>>96742899The Flex Seal / Shamwow / SlapChop "Universe of Pitchmen" Universes Beyond is ultra gigakino.
>>96742916As the ultimate crossover between salesmen, HE is also available exclusively on the bonus sheet.
Kamigawabunga dude!
>oxiclean STILL not bannedwhat the fuck were they thinking printing such powerful colorless removal?
>>96742944cringe
>>96742944i find it relatively funny
>>96742865God damn I love all 10 of these auras they're so strong and cool. Shield of the Oversoul is my favorite
>>96743065
The amount of pigs in this game is really something else…
Will they ever bring back aftermath cards?
>>96743065What do you think are the best and worst in the cycle?>Best - Steel of the Godhead>Worst - Fists of the Demigod (Its cool but too specific to one strategy)
Rapthalia from SHIELD HEROBebora is the artist
Anyone a /trekkie/ herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAGzRczDYpcI hope they include the later movies/shows in the set
>>96743178I feel like they usually come up with a new gimmick for split cards each time right?I've been thinking that it would be cool to have split cards with the aftermath frame (perhaps with the bottom half mirrored to show that they're different) where the top half is any permanent and the bottom half is a non-permanent spell. Because I hate doubleface cards and I think it's simply a slightly different design space than something like channel.
>>96743197im imagining kirk, spock, scotty, mccoy, and then like everything else is from next generation just because thats the type of trek fan i assume is on the design team
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jhJQ2jWvf0
>>96743216So like an inverse adventure?
>>96743285Oh sorry, when I say aftermath frame I mean just the frame not the mechanic lol. Simply a split card where one half is allowed to be a permanent.That way would be cool too, though.
>>96742865>What's your most favorite Common Card?Is it a trick question?
When I said TMNT UB is next I was just joking ffs.
>>96743331you didn't say that
>>96743331to be honest TMNT and Furby are so pants on head retarded as an magic IP that I could enjoy it, like wathing the special olypics for all the wrong reasons or watching Sharknado.
>Judge Dredd coming to MTGI might care about this game again.
>>96742865Forest, nothing squares up like a good ol' Forest
TQ:Loved the og modern bogle decks since my playgroup always was high on removal
>>96743485Anon, WotC chickened out and didn't put police in their own setting (New Capenna). What makes you think they'd crossover with Dredd???
>>96743531https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmUbrGLBhzk
>96737973>Around 1 in 4 new cards printed in 2025 (so far) is a legendary creature. In other words, they printed more legendary creatures than any other card type except normal creatures. Grim.How does this make you feel?
>>96743590
>>96743590I'm proud I no longer play this game.
>>96743590I have never really cared whether a creature was legendary or not.
>>96743590Spiderman also had a shit ton of enchantments. I don't know why. Feels like you'll rarely find an honest to God sorcery these days.
>>96743590i didn't expect any different
OG Shadowmoor tribes were kino
>>96743590This game is cooked. We have to fuck off before the real end arrives (TMNT cards and Trekkie shit polluting every single format)
>>96743765>We have to fuck off before the real end arrivesi dunno what to tell you if the spider nigger set wasn't the breaking point for you
>>96743773Nah because SPM luckily was a trash set, horrible in itself don’t misunderstand me, but how many cards saw play? Now wait for TMNT and Star Trek… There is no way they let those sets without heavy powercreep
>>96743662New York is an enchantments matter plane, duh
>>96742944That was a good thread
>>96743816Oh yes but let’s not forget about the great artifacts New York City offered us!
>>96743197Yeah, I'm really looking forward to the basic lands and maybe a legendary or two for commander but overall I dont think trek is a good fit for mtg
leaked star trek card
/tg/-sisters, who else is hyped for nu-lorwyn???>>96743675SOVL
How we stop this UB shit? TMNT was already infuriating and we have SUPERHEROES and STAR TREK on the way...
>>96742843is Teferi the only negro you guys find acceptable in Magic?
EoE had 15 legendary creatures in it.
>>96743873nah Kambal is the real nigga too
>>96743866you don't. for all the people bitching and complaining about it, as right as they are, you don't hear or see the countless consoomers who are eating and preordering all of this shit up. They know their demographic is sedentary 20-40 year olds with salary jobs and mountains of disposable income because they have no kids.>nickelodeon kids show from damn near 20 years ago>the officeThink of it this way: if people weren't buying it, corporations wouldn't be selling and making it.Hasbro is making money hand over fist, and for every 3 or 4 sets that flop hard, they make all of their money back many times over with LOTR and FF. They will be definitely be making more and more LotR and FF products. You WILL keep giving hasbro money, you WILL see patrick star next to rick and morty next to a black viking next Master splinter next to dwight schrute, and you WILL accept it.>>96743886>the set themed after fucking INDIA was one of the last good original planes we ever saw...
>>96743884And seven characters had two cards which is also very boring.
>>96743590>How does this make you feel?Excited for Legendary to finally beat out regular Creatures!
>>96744138Only six, but still. I don't mind the main four having them to sort of show them at the start of their journey compared to the end, but Vondam and Mm'menon didn't need two.
>>96743594I always figured that guy would sui in his 30s but it turns out he has some kinda career now, good for him
>>96743864you have misidentified the aesthetichttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisexual_lighting
I got this at nyc comic con kinda accidentaly. I haven't touched magic in twelve years. Isn't this kinda OP?
>>96744295It was popular back in the day but now it's hilariously underpowered.
>>96744218Oh no no no...Izzet players don't look
>>96744295>addendum>on a ninja turtle cardAre they lawyers now? My immersion is ruined. Save me, Isperia.
>>96744218no wonder the set looks like avowed to me
>>96744344You have no idea how deep the turtle hole goes.
>>96742873It also would have enabled any amount of cross set syngery with Spiderman, instead of absolutely fuck all.
>>96744295This effect now costs 0 mana and is considered terrible despite that.
>>96744482I keep saying that in spite of my inherent disgust with UB, I do at least respect that the avatar set has a whole bunch of those weird "two random animals fused together" creatures from the background lore of that franchise, since it means they can play well with all the tribal shit in bloomburrowbut then again what do I know, for all we know the TMNT set is gonna have a lot of payoffs for all the new york tribal shit in spiderman
>>96743873Nah, there is nothing wrong with locations, peoples or even entire planes of black, asian or whatever ethnicity of inhabitants. The problems are changing existing characters to a different ethnicity, having characters show up randomly as different ethnicities from places previously monoethnic, depicting real world analogue cultures as different ethnicities and, perhaps most prevalent, depicting certain ethnicities as superior beings which have no (relevant) flaws without it being a story beat.
>>96744532I haven't been paying attention to spoilers, but are there generic versions of those animals, or just the named legendaries?
>>96744532>but then again what do I know, for all we know the TMNT set is gonna have a lot of payoffs for all the new york tribal shit in spidermanthey've had a few chances to show off Heroes and Villains already and it looks like they aren't gonna be in.maybe they'll come back in... sigh... next year's Marvel set
>>96744561yeah there's generics
>>96743819Better than sets these days
>>96744586this almost makes me want to play again, bring back downsides ffs.
>>96744561mostly not legendary.
>>96744593What a horrible flavour text.
>>96744608>>96744593Nice. Its refreshing to get some actually good news about UB.
>>96744608I like this card
>>96744586Reminds me of this dude, but obviously better. Wish these were real cards instead of UBshit
>>96744635Why do you like this card?
>>96744661Will probably be a decent card in draft and it has cute art
>>96744608At least these animal hybrids will be easily reprintable in an Ikoria set or something similar. Everything else can fuck right off.
>>96744535Who are your other favorite MTG blacks
>>96744661Nta, but it being a turtle gives it some synergy with tmnt, and birds are a common enough type and has some support. Its a a toughness 1 mana blocker that has some relevant text as the game progresses. I wish it had a more fantastical name, but that's one of the problems with UB in general.I like the art.I wish it wasnt EOT, as a 4 mana 4/4 is fine, or that it gained hexproof and/or flying as those are more fitting than trample, but thats just nitpicking a common.
>>96743873Etrata my beloved...
>>96744706Argus Kos.
>>96744706The gay greek faggot negro is okay.Yes, I know I said gay 3 times.
>>96744714
I have negative hype for Avatar man…
>>96744607yeah I kinda like the design, I really like the potential synergy with Sothera and some reanimator junk (pun intended) that I've been looking at since Dragonstorm, but... I kinda don't want to play with a TMNT card
>>96744806I also think it sucks but I'm trying not to think about it because wife and her siblings love that shit. I'm going to be seeing a lot of it.
>>96744706SisayPicrel my only commander deck>>96744714too ugly for me
>>96744806I wouldn't say I have any hype, but I started watching the show and I'm kinda somewhat looking forward to it.
>>96744841>Ma' ngara
>>96743826>nigger taking selfie with spiderman>the headline on the newspaper says NIGGERis this artwork secretly based?
>>96744535My problem is that it makes no sense for a village in Innistrad to support a diverse population like it's New York. It makes no sense. It would make sense for Ravnica, Ikoria or Kaladesh. The size of the whole Innistrad is the same as fucking Moldova, where are all these blacks coming from? Thraben would be the size of a small village and yet they have the population diversity of the biggest metropolis in the world with 500 years of constant migration. Insane. Devoid of any reason. How are there blacks in Ixalan?
>>96744945there's an Asian woman and a black guy in original ISD but the name of the card and the flavor text leads the reader to imagine that they might be strangers from a far-off land, of the type you might see in the old days of Balkan lands on the border of the Ottoman Empire. (does something like the Ottoman Empire exist in Innistrad, you ask? um, no, but I guess it's better than nothing.)two years later Wizards would release their first setting with a conspicuous Black™ population in the form of Theros two years later (excepting Mirage block for obvious reasons). when Innistrad was revisited three years after that, even the vampires had dark-as-midnight blacks among their ranks
>>96743873No but he's definitely my favoriteOne of the handful of actually cool planeswalkers
>>96745006also you can still tell which one of the outcasts is Chinese even after they transform into werewolves which I find funny.
>>96744295It's alright, a pretty basic effect with several variations on it already available.
You guys are handling this better than reddit, good job
>>96745070handling what?
>>96744841>Sisayholy shit i never realized until now she was a kween
>>96745070post some reddit melties, i need a chuckle
>>96745070what, the TMNT set? we only handle the enshittification of magic better than places like reddit because we're numb to it at this point. they still think things will get better, without realizing they're the root cause.
Speaking of Teferi, has anyone ever seen this one actually played? It's the flipside of that battle one.'memba battles?
>>96745113I was away from the game when battles were printeddoesn't look like I missed much
>>96745119It's been over 2 years and there are still no signs of them come back. What an absolute waste of a card type.
>>96743930>the set themed after fucking INDIA was one of the last good original planes we ever saw...Because there was an overall feel that Kaladesh's "perfection" hid the incredibly imposing consul system and we knew they were racist against wizard because of Chandra's backstory. Kambal is just the visual representation of the corrupt order Kaladesh existed in.
>>96745113place your bets>marvelslop set is full of heckin ebic battles>reality fracture has a random battle subtheme>they continue to pretend battles never existed for a third year in a row
>>96745131We allegedly have them in an upcoming set.
Mistborn would make a great MTG set.
>>96745157Doubt Sanderson would sign off on it after they fucked him over last time. Plus it's even more niche than the shit we're getting now.
Should I make dinner on Friday?
>sandersoy
>>96745142We've been hearing that for like 1 year now. Thought it was Tarkir. Then EOE. Now what? Marvel?
>>96745180Hence "allegedly". But it could still be true even if it's been a year, their development cycle is longer than that.
>>96745142>>96745180Stop bringing battles up, let wotc forgetNobody wants to see that lame shit back
>>96745166I made a pot roast with potatoes, carrots and those onion pearls. I would highly recommend it if you have a slow cooker.
>>96744295Not in constructed.
>>96745201Battle for new york will be a legacy staple, screencap this
>>96742916None can stop the most powerful of all. Not after he returns from the graveyard.
>>96745201Nah battles were fine. Sieges were kinda shit, but there's plenty of other concepts they could go with.
>>96745088she had semi-straight hair unlike every black character since uhh 2013 I guess. depends on the illustration but you could confuse her for being Indian or something
>>96744806The most interesting thing about the set for me is that we finally have a vanilla 2/1 for R after years of cards that powercrept their way past that.It's like somebody finally remembered that Ragavan exists, so colorshifted Savannah Lions is fine actually
>>96745070i just stopped caring
Just got word that several of the new secret lairs, you know, the ones fans were pushing back against so hard, are already sold out within an hour of opening preorders and the ones that are still in stock shouldn't last much longer.You can basically expect nothing but endless slop at this point.
>secret lair sold out because scalpers used botsi dont carei ain't buying
Fuck it, I'm just buying a printer
>>96744714Should've made her extremely dark, like those africans who are so black light shines blue on them
>>96745282Keep telling yourself that. Keep telling yourself that it's all just bots and scalpers and not a very large and very real segment of the fanbase that's willing to drop a latin american's entire paycheck on a whim for some silly cards.
>>96745226Like what? A battle you need to protect? That's just a planeswalker with no loyalty abilities.
>>96745254as much as all the UB trash disgusts me I think this was the set that finally broke me. I could tolerate the hat planes as stupid as they were for a while but seeing cheerleaders and TVs and not-ghostbusters in a supposedly in-universe fantasy setting that notably refuses to print any modern guns because it'd be too thematically incoherent just... I can't take it anymore, man.
>>96745299>That's just a planeswalker with no loyalty abilities.Even if it was just that, it's better than planeswalkers. But it could also be enchantments you could weaken and destroy through combat, or something that can repeatedly swap control between players, or essentially a rebound spell your opponent could interact with. There's plenty of possibilities, battles fix the main issues with planeswalkers and I hope they replace them completely.
>>96745333They fixed that by not having loyalty abilities and being shit so the game doesn't devolve into playing protect the castle.
>>96743873teferi became boring when they turned him into idris elba
>>96745355that's called getting older
>>96745312I now subscribe to the conspiracy theory that the entire goofy ass post-MOM "hat set" saga was just meant to soften the blow for the incoming tidal wave of UB. You heard it a lot when LotR and FF dropped: "Well I actually think that this feels *more* like Magic than the latest Magic sets have!" Well yeah that's because they'd been making dogshit sets. Karlov Manor, Duskmourn, Aetherdrift and Thunder Junction, what a generational run of cringe. The only exceptions being Dragonstorm (it's fine but it was a rehash nostalgia set) and Edge of Eternities which actually has a decently thought out setting that applies the color wheel tropes to a space-based setting -- but OH WAIT it turns out that was just softening the blow for Star Trek and establishing Spacecraft and Station rules for it
>>96745359I wish I could be Idris Elba when I grow up
>>96745333I feel like making a decent battle shouldn't be that hard>creatures you control get +x/+x where x is the number of defense counters on this battleliterally the most basic idea off the top of my head
>>96745363Mirrodin was to soften people up on SciFi sets.
>>96745359he was better when he was young then
>>96745359He got more hair as he got older? Damn and here I am balding.
>>96745382counterpoint, Mirrodin was cool.(so was EoE in my opinion but I saw plenty of people saying they disliked it because of the spaceships etc)
>>96745372Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Lots of directions you could take them, it'll be a shame if they get shuttered because initial impressions were tainted by sieges.
>>96745396I'm sure the thought process is "no that'd be too similar to an enchantment" but I mean with that logic you may as well not make half the mechanics in the game cause they're just kicker variants
>>96745382Mirrodin had an article on the effort they took to make a metal plane feel like fantasy.https://web.archive.org/web/20210225132654/https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/savor-flavor/world-sculpted-metal-2011-03-22
>>96745070
>>96745282which secret lair?
>>96745445presumably the one with demonic tutor in it
>>96745297ok, you're right, it's not only scalpers with bots, it's also content sloppers trying to get youtube famous>>96745445i dunno, isn't there always a secret lair being released every day?
>>96745484wew if true
>>96745436MKM also has shit WotC pulled out of their ass to justify it.
>>96745490You didn't even read the article. It's about art direction and outside look on the worldbuilding, not "planeswalker's guide" explaining why people wear fedoras.
>>96745363>Edge of Eternities which actually has a decently thought out setting that applies the color wheel tropes to a space-based setting -- but OH WAIT it turns out that was just softening the blow for Star Trek and establishing Spacecraft and Station rules for itThis is the worst fuckign shit. Why the fuck is star trek in a fucking high fantasy setting? It's the polar opposite of mtg style fantasy in every way.
>>96744535>depicting certain ethnicities as superior beings which have no (relevant) flaws without it being a story beat.this never happened
>>96745363Karlov Manor is the worst offender for me because it's so puzzling why they even made it. Like, every 6 years we get a Ravnica block, they sell well, players love to draft them, and they sell a lot of products related to it. Guilds are omni-present, they've become horoscopes for the players. Instead of that, we got Karlov Manor and Thunder Junction. They even added two subtypes, clues and cases, that will never be revisited. What a shitshow.
>>96745563putting black people on cards is literally genociding latinx folk
>>96742843Don't cry turtlefag piggies there is still hope, they do know what a sai is
>>96742865
>>96743873Koth is borderline
>>96745565It should have been on Capenna
>>96742865Rhystic Study
>>96743485If Dredd isn't Orzov I'd riot.
>>96745485actually jewtubers buy from scalpers which keeps this scam circle alive. they don't care because the videos make their money back and they get views because nobody else can buy the product themselves
opening product doesn't make view timeyou clicking on a video gives it +1 view but the goytuber makes no moneyi'm jewish, so i am automatically an expert on money
Non-slop TCG suggestions?
>>96746181None
>>96745484I was in the queue and I think I entered 12 minutes in because I wasn't logged in. Just 10 mins in the queue it displayed that it was out of stock. They made me a favour, I guess. I have a couple of these artist series secret lairs, they are the only ones I have ever purchased.
>>96745565Given the detective focus I suspect Karlov Manor was designed as New Capenna 2 however New Capenna didn't sell well enough or some other corporate bullshit so it was hastily rebranded as Ravnica.
>>96746181my tcgi haven't created it yet
>>96746181F&B
>>96746181riftbound
>>96746299I thought they outright said as much at some point
>>96746181Lorcana.
So like how's modern doing? mtgtop8 has 50% of the meta as agro.
>>96745164He apparently was discussing some sort of Cosmere thing with them but discussions sort of just dropped off sometime before the Marvel collab was announced. It'll probably happen at some point, and it could even support a full set, though it's the sort of thing where I don't know if it'd really sell on the brand itself.
>>96745180We know Bloomburrow and EOE both had Battles in development before scrapping them, I believe. I'm willing to bet Reality Fracture might have them.
>>96746460Pros:>Meta decks are very evenly matched (putting a lot of current decks under a generic "aggro" label does the format a disservice IMO)>Despite blatant MH powercreep it's still a format where guys who haven't played in years can show up with their old decks and be able to compete and do well even against the supposedly strongest decks in the format>It's still a fairly brewer friendly format, provided you know what you're doing at leastCons:>Having so much of the meta defined by MH sets ruins the "soul" of the format at least partially>Despite the meta being balanced by all objective metrics the truth is that the sheer powerlevel of the decks often leads to very swingy gamesThis last point in particular has been the most divisive among the modern players I know personally. Some dislike how the advantage can shift very wildly with only 2-3 good draws, others say that that type of high power play is exactly what the format should be about. Overall most people I know are generally happy about the state of the format, some more than others.
>>96746460>So like how's modern doing?as a combo player, it's good for me>mtgtop8 has 50% of the meta as agro.it's because mtgtop8 doesn't have a section for midrange, it's classifying all the blink decks as aggro which isn't very accurate
>>96746460mixed bagthe meta is pretty diverse but honestly a lot of the top decks are just kinda boring to play as and against and it doesnt help that some matches just feel like mh3 constructed
>>96746444kek
>>96746181>>96746332>my tcgI've been designing it for a while, in fact
>>96746181Ashes: Reborn
>>96746803
If a planeswalker summons a creature, does it a soul? Does it feel pain? What happens to them when the duel is over?
>>96746850They… PLANESWALK
>>96746850isnt it something along the lines of "you are using magic to create the platonic ideal of a mogg fanatic only as it relates to combat" or something
>>96746966It used to be that you were *literally* summoning those creatures/planeswalkers hence the old legend rule. When they changed the legend rule they retconned the lore so that you're just summoning mana constructs based on your memories of them (or something like that, I don't really keep up with the lore), which in turn makes loyalty counters on planeswalkers not make any sense anymore.
>>96746817>non slop>uses ai slopmight as well just buy UB secret lair collector boostersjesus christ man no one want to put any actual effort into shit but demand to get their shit be bought by others
>>96746992THERE ARE UB SECRET LAIR COLLECTOR BOOSTERS AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE!?
