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Should Space Marines be made more common? These mythical warriors of only 1 million or so total spread thin throughout the Imperium does NOT match up with what we actually see, which is the Astartes showing up in large numbers to even minor conflicts and dying in large numbers as well.
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>>96746799
>minor conflicts
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>>96746799
>Should Space Marines be made more common?
No.
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>>96746864
Ah yes, the Taros Campaign involving a minor periphery mining desert world with only 12 million people on it definitely required 300 Space Marines to handle it (or rather, fail to handle it).
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>>96746799
Nice raid thread
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>>96746799
Space Marines look so fucking goofy without their helmets on. How the fuck do people think that tiny ass head poking out of a gigantic body looks cool?
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>>96746799
It's one per planet bro, what's the problem?
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>>96746983
The problem is you'll get 300 Space Marines deployed to the middle of bumfuck nowhere for a fight against some nobody aliens nobody's ever heard of before who have a population of like 50 people.
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>>96746935
The shoulder pads make their bodies look wider, but they are normal without them.
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>>96746799
>only 1 million or so total
It's worth noting that would only be the case if all the chapters followed the Codex Astartes to the letter, which they definitely don't do. For example, the Black Templars ignore the 1,000 marines limit, and just keep on raising more troops as they continue crusading, likely numbering in the tens or even hundreds of thousands.
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>>96747163
But for every space marine chapter that's raising more soldiers than they need, there's another space marine chapter that's been reduced down to like 50 marines and will take ages to recover.
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>>96747163
>likely numbering in the tens or even hundreds of thousands.
The Black Templars have around 7,500 marines spread across their various crusader fleets.
Space Wolves have between 2,000-3,000 marines.
These are the only 2 (loyalist) chapters who notably deviate in chapter size.
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>>96747246
>The Black Templars have around 7,500 marines spread across their various crusader fleets.
I understand they currently have about 13 different crusades, and each one has at least 1,000 marines.

So they have at least more than 10,000 marines.
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>>96746799
You want warhammer lore to care about accurate scales? LOL
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>>96746799
No, because I want their rareness to be a focal point.
I want GW to not do a single space marine release in the entire next edition, and I want the lore to explicitly state that many guardsmen believe the space marines virtually extinct. I want Eldar and Tau to be surprised when they see them.
I want them to feel like the shell of their former selves that they are, I want their brief arrivals to feel like the Archangel Michael pouring his fury upon the earth in 1000 avatars, but I will never get that.
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>>96747417
That really doesn't work though when Space Marines are the equivalent of much, much more common enemies.
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>>96747246
>>96747374
Sources on the number of Black Templars changes between editions (and authors) and is also dependant on the time period.
The 4th ed codex says they have 5k - 6k marines, while one of the new Black library books says they have 25k.
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They already are. Take every canon chapter and add them together you'll get wayyyyyy more than a million marines. Not to mention since cawl somehow hid entire legions worth of marines underneath mars even the cannon now statea there's around 3 million marines.
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>>96746935
Do you think the armour is meant to be form fitting anon?
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>>96747542
That's still way too few, that's only 3 marines per planet, there needs to be closer to 50 or 100.
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>>96747548
I think it's supposed to make the scifi soldier look cool. It doesn't, it looks fucking retarded.
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>>96747548
>Do you think the armour is meant to be form fitting anon?
I understand that power armor must be adjusted manually, but it depends on the marine and sometimes dreadnought parts have to be added.
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>>96747557
I used to think the same thing but you have to keep in mind even if a single company can take over a planet there's still a fuckton of planets in the imperium and the space marines are reserved for only the most important worlds, there's a reasontl the call the guard the backbone of the imperium. You also have to keep in mind this isn't the great crusade, they can't produce space marines like they used too. My head Canon was that there were about 20-30 million marines at the height of the great crusade but after the horus heresy there's only about 3-5 million left on each side, showing just how horrifically devastating that war was on the imperium. After all if every planet had its oeb company of spaces marines it exactly be the grim dark future.
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>>96747592
>the space marines are reserved for only the most important worlds
lol
lmao even
Taros was not the 'most important world' by a longshot and it still got 300 marines dedicated to it.
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>>96747592
>wouldn't exactly be the grimdark future*
Sorry, I had a brain aneurism.
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>>96747601
Yea it wasn't but they were fighting the first tau expansion. The battle wasn't for the world itself but to stop an new enemy from the imperium from taking anymore of their territory. It was the first time the imperium faced the tau in full on war, which, even though it was on an unimportant world, made the battle itself important.
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>>96746799
This is the same setting where Vraks, the purported bloodiest war in imperium history had less than half the casualties of WW2. The writers just fucking suck at scale and don't give enough of a shit to get any better at it so it's best not thought about too hard.
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>>96747548
show us on the op image how the armor fits the man's body. either he looks like a regular man with a tiny head, or he's a freak with exceptionally long thighs and biceps attached to regular length calves and forearms or something. the joints and points of articulation tell us things about how his body must necessarily be shaped
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>>96746799
>made more common
No. If anything they should be less common.
But also keep in mind model sales and frequency of appearance in gameplay or secondary/fiction isn't representative of their in-universe presence. We see a lot of marines because they look cool and sell, not because there's a lot of them in-universe.
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>>96747626
>It was the first time the imperium faced the tau in full on war
The Taros campaign was well after the Damocles Crusade
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You missed the general.



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