>the mysterious founder of Wargames Atlantic, Hudson Adams, was actually Wargames Factory and Defiance Games owner Tony Reidy this whole timehttps://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/a-note-from-the-founder-of-wargames-atlanticWhat a tweest!I mean it's not uncommon, Archon Studios for example is the same people behind the failed Prodos Games
>>96757654Who? What? And why should anyone care?
He conned a lot of people back in the day. So many bad stories about him. One including that he hired disabled kids from a charity and didn't pay them. Anyone who was around back in the day knows what a nasty piece of work he is
>>96758265>One including that he hired disabled kids from a charity and didn't pay themBased
>>96757654>12 years late I have to pretend to care what an asshole
>>96758265He put one of my night goblins in his mouth at GenCon
>>96758265That sounds based as fuck.
Little details like being a cunt on their socials and bitching about politics made me wary of them. Now I know some scumbag lied to get another start lol. Can't wait for them to crash into the ground because they overextend their product lines and the owner disappears with the bag yet again.>Fuck up a kickstarter>Steal to pay off your own debts>Create company under pseudonym>Wait until statute expires for pulling the rug>"It's me! Haha, I will pay back I swear!"Grim
>I'm not an asshole the Chinese made me do it I swear!Kek
>>96758838It does not really speak for everyone else in the business desu. How the fuck did he even manage to start a new business with a fake name? Maybe thats possible in the US, idk. How did nobody from the old buisness contacts recognize him? Did he grew a long beard or something?
Everyone on reddit is lapping up the statement he wrote. Amazes me how willing people are to forgive a fraudster now he can produce cheap plastics. Someone needs to show them the receipts. There's a lot out there if people can be arsed looking
Why is every table top company always scummier than GW
>>96758409>12 years later I'm going to repay people that got screwed over instead of just continuing on like nothing ever happened.Legend.
>>96757654I’ve seen quite a bit of disdain for wga on /awg/ over some sculpt qualities found lacking even before this.This might be more fuel to their flames.
>>96761047A lot of the whining on /awg/ is political brainworms.
>>96759925>got ahead of the news to put a spin on it>takes exactly zero accountability in his admittance (claims that everyone just magically foisted all the kickstarter money on him out of the blue and him paying personal debts with the money is totally glossed over)>claims he will pay people from 12 years ago, many of whom will have moved on from wargaming, no longer have the relevant card details or receipts, or quite possibly given the subject matter be actually dead>wants to pay back in fucking store credit lmfao
>>96759877It's the Mitch Hedberg bit about being a great farmer and people telling you you should be a chef. The kind of people who get into the gaming business are usually hobbyists themselves who don't know what the fuck they are doing. Kickstarter has only made this worse, because people have zero idea how much production is actually going to cost, they build in insane amounts of product creep with stretch goals, and they don't understand how shipping works. I honestly don't think a lot of these people set out just to bilk people out of there money, they just have zero idea of the realities of trying to make a product.
>>96761069A lot of the posturing by WGA is political brainworms.
>we invented this molding technique before GW>we invented this molding injection process before Perry Miniatures, but they released it first because...uhhh..>we invented siocast before they did!!!>me, me, me!!!! >I got tricked by the Chinese! >I'm not actually an asshole, the Chinese Mafia started a smear campaign against me, because... Uhhh...>"It was a really bad time for me mentally and I almost didn’t make it through." (Give me sympathy) >I didn't run those Kickstarter con jobs, I gave someone my website, bank info, passwords and they did it against my will!>I invented a new name for myself to start WGA so I could con you one last time, oops, I mean..so you could see the REAL ME!! This guy is a serial liar and a narcissist.
>>96761170The whole blogpost reeks of missing information. I hate the grifters at some of these smaller tabletop companies so much.
A lot of complaining here from risk averse anons who would never have the self confidence to invest real effort into a starting a business to meet a perceived market failure. Looks like Mr WGA tried and fucked up a few times, went bankrupt (far from a get out of jail free card if you know anyone who has), and has now built a successful small business on the third round. Congrats to him - that'a more commitment and confidence than I'd have - and good to see that the early backers of failed efforts are getting something, even if less than what they wanted or expected.
>>96761170It's kinda sad and pathetic how an obvious conman and liar can post a ridiculous sob story and everyone on Facebook and reddit just slop it up and are calling him a "legend" and "hero." Lmfao really shows you how gullible the rable is and why democratic politics are the way they are
>>96761265See gullible retard #1, exempli gratia>>96761232
>>96761232Hi Tony.
>>96761142Dude, please stop posting this one screenshot over and over again.I lurk the WGA Legion group too and I rarely see anything from him. He did also post about an insane leftist that accused him of inserting Nazi codewords into his products. Guess that means he's based?
>>96761170I did think it read a bit narcissistic.However, he's also unmasked himself and is going to pay back Kickstarter backers. Can't really fault that.
can someone spoonfeed me into telling me why the traitor guard line is still not released in plastic.
I'm more inclined to support WGA just because of that one anon in /awg/ constantly waging a one man war and shitting up the thread.
>>96761356Dude please stop pretending you're on some moral highground over and over again.
>>96761290Risk-averse virgin poster vs chad styrene industrialist. Tony may suck but he's still better than you (of course the Chinese building factories to make the stuff are better still)
>>96761378>that one You keep posting this and its certainly not true, given I have posted some of the complaints and not all of them. So you're either retarded and think everyone you dislike is one person, or you're lying.
>>96761378Turns out that "one" anon was right
>>96761232No he literally scammed people multiple times and had an absolutely awful reputation for doing so. In the blogpost he admits to having once again scammed people.
>>96761369They're stockpiling and sending out to backers first. It's a huge operation and the creator has been very cautious about it (know we know why).Also there might be some business-strategy here like not releasing too many products at once and spacing them out. Not sure, they'll be a WGA blog post about it though.
>>96761384?
Having fucked around with WGA Afghans and Wargames Factory Persians all I can say is that in 13 years the sculpting quality has somehow gone down. My sample size is only two kits but it's not a good sign either way.
>>96761671They keep developing and pumping out product like mad cats and Tony will once again let the bottom fall out and shitcan his own company.
Well I guess I'm gonna try to get that spider kit second-hand then
>>96761142Get over itImagine sucking off Trump this hard>>96761394If you look at the reply count, it is one person.
>>96761142I mean... he's not wrong. Even if you disagree with him disliking it, the website *is* like that now. You can go on there and see people talking about jews in media and shit like that.
>>96761944>once censorship is removed, right wing opinions are a lot more common Really make you think, perhaps right wing conservative opinions have been normal opinions all along
>>96761990Why would you conflate being conservative and a Nazi? Why do you keep replying to yourself?
>>96762020>replying to yourself >the only (You) ITT I have gotten is from your dumb assTake your meds. This is going to blow your feeble mind, but not everyone you disagree with the same person. Secondly, the point is that libtards like Tony Reidy think being a normal conservative American is the same as being a Nazi, not that I think conservatism and Nazism are the same thing. I'll hold off on the ad hominem until your reply
>>96762043But there are actually a bunch of shithead neonazis on Twitter. You're the one conflating "totally baseline conservative values" with Nazism here, dude.
>there's Nazis on X>said the 4chan userI hope you realize how retarded you are.Nevertheless, brain worms for implying that X is suddenly /pol/ just because the far right are *allowed to post*.
I am sure he is glossing over or omitting a bunch of details but I do potentially believe the Chinese stuff given what happened to other companies. And from knowledge about shitty Chinese business practices in general.
>>96762404>I signed over my company to shadowy Chinamen and lost everything >*a few hours later* >I signed over my company to mysterious individuals to run my kickstarter and I lost everything This guy is either actually braindead or a liar
>>96762043The post count disagrees, just make a gripe thread and keep it here you nogames psycho
>>96762455>calls me a Nazi Yeah.. so?
>>96762440Getting scammed by the Chinese makes sense given how one if forced to operate in China if he was stupid enough to try and setup a business there. Even just with contract work it is still a shitshow where you can easily get scammed. That being said you are right if he stupidly did the exact same thing a 2nd time just because it wasn't the Chinese again. He is definitely either glossing over or over simplifying things to make himself look more of a victim than he probably is. However people can just be that stupid when it comes to business.
>>96761369A few delays1a. They're shipping molds back and forth between the US and UK to avoid tariffs1b. Customs took forever releasing their molds for whatever reason2. They had a defect in one sprue and had to redo the entire production run for that kit3. They're sending shit out to kickstarter backers first before releasing sets to non-backers4. First vehicle kit reportedly took more fiddling to produce than they expectedUS backers are already getting their shit so it should'nt be too long before the UK ones do too. From there it sounds like they're going to try to get them out for the public ASAP.
Has there been any business complaints with WGA with his sculptors on contractors? With the Second story shouldn't the bankruptcy stuff be public to see if he is BSing? I never trust a woe is me story, but even GW has been yanked around with chinese manufactures. I remember a story about their hobby cutters where the chinese kept lying about the quality they could deliver
>>96763467>his sculptorsI don't think they get paid
>>96761084>Offers the option for store credit at a massively beneficial rate.Ah ok, I get it, you're just a liar.
Honestly, this announcement has made me incredibly suspicoous of WGA. The story has some big holes (other than China screwing him over, that's pretty standard), and now I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. WGA has a mostly solid track record so far; the Damned has some delays and the new 10mm dwarves needed to he resculpted. But they made Quar plastics real and they haven't imploded yet.
>>96761394We know that you are one person WGA shizo.
Defiance Games owes me about 2k.We'll see if that fucker pays up.
>>96757654The one good thing about current political leadership is assholes unmasking themselves, which will greatly simplify things later
>>96764212Ask for inflation + interest. It's been what, thirteen years?
>>96764121>>Offers the option for store credit at a massively beneficial rate.You realise it costs him literal cents on the dollar to manufacture that? He would much rather you took that abysmal deal for store credit than pay cash (btw, he owes the people he scammed interest as well). At most he'll pay 5k given how few people that he scammed are actually going to hear about this, and probably much less if some of them take the store credit.
>>96763751Got any other examples?
>>96764131What's wrong with the dwarves
>>96765988Problem with the mold iirc, needed retooling.
>>96764131There have been signs all along. Generally if a company takes up a snarky bullshit public facing social media presence or private emails to customers they're either already shitheads who have slipped masking or they're going to become assholes very quickly.
>>96766045Its kinda based in todays perfectionized marketing speech world if someone has the balls to tell customers to just fuck off if they dont like something. If anything, thats the best trait of this Tony/Hudson guy.
>>96766080No, its sloppy and unprofessional.Personal politics and hot takes aren't a good part of any company's pr regardless of ideological basis. You're referring to ultrasanitized pr that is still part of hegemonic propaganda being cringe or some other brainrot and trying to flip the script. Its all old hat, everyone sees your lies and tired of it.
>>96765988Look at the shields. >>96766045True, they have been letting the mask slip more and more. Guess now is the time to buy anything you want from them before they go under.
>>96764741Concession noted, liar.
>>96766879Try not scamming people next time faggot
