DAMN the Salubri look like THAT? Edition>Previous Thread>>96753768>Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/WiCHizn0>Mediafirehttps://mediafire.com/folder/s9esc6u7ke8k5/CofD>Mega Ihttps://mega.nz/folder/ePQ1BKhJ#RCosRCh59Ki2Mpb1M9H3Uw>Mega II (also containing fanmade games)https://mega.nz/folder/ZbQ2zLJA#DOT-3df6rS2lLet4_RmqJQ>WoD5 Megahttps://mega.nz/folder/7rQQ1LbQ#16_AiXVGo0P3_rVOJuoZyA>STV content foldershttps://pastebin.com/9i9zhydQ>General Creation Kithttps://mega.nz/#F!FWJgBTbb!f7d5rARWHYzuI8-8aI-Bxw>Ideas: BJ Zanzibar's WoDhttp://167.99.155.149/>Anders Mage Pagehttp://mage.gearsonline.net/anders/>White Wolf Wiki:https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page>Thread QuestionWhat is your favorite traditional clan and what is your favorite weird clan?
Brujah girl having heavy baby making sex with her Ventrue sugar daddy.
Werewolves are NOT retarded
>>96763346They will be after I'm done with them
>>96763346BUT THEY HAVE THE RISK TO BE.UNLESS YOU HELP OUT EXPANDING THEIR GENEPOOL. GO HAVE SEX WITH YOUR LOCAL WEREWOLF RIGHT NOW!!!
>>96762751anybody got an answer?
>>96763308>TQFavorite traditional clan: Ventrue. The archetype of "vampire as the elite" is a classic and essentially universal, to the point I always found it quite confusing how under-developed nonwestern Ventrue are. Every society, even hunter-gatherers have hierarchies, Ventrue should be easy to insert into any chronicle. They also have an interesting clan curse and a solid and synergistic discipline spread. The only issue they have is that their mastery of manipulating mortals and unity-oriented clan culture can make using them as antagonists annoying, since they're one of a few clans where attacking a neonate can realistically cause an elder to drop the hammer on you. Still, what can I say? I love the undead eternal aristocracy. Favorite weird clan: Assuming Tremere and Gangrel don't count because they're Cam 7, Tzimisce. While they don't fit as PCs in most games, and can attract a certain type of problem player, the same could be said about most "weird" clans, and the Tzimisce make villains par excellence. Despite the disproportionate focus given to the Carpathian brood there are canon Greek, Indian, and African Tzimisce to draw on and their concept is fairly flexible despite the tenuous dracula connection. Having such inherent bonuses and incentives to use a shitload of minions makes them an ideal long-term antagonist.
Rawr Me woofBite biteClaw claw Awooo
>>96763397Agree with the ventrue. But don't know what you mean by trouble player with the temmies. Honestly players who start to break havoc and do all sort of deranged shit are my favorite because they make the game move and don't need railroading.
>TQ>favourite tradicional clanTremere>favourite weird clanSalubri
>>96763320I'm the opposite: Ventrue rich daddy's girl getting pounded flat by a dirty, hairy, 300lb biker Brujah.
>>96763508>tradicional
>>96763308Nosferatu, tossup between Assamite or Setite
If immortality is seen as a bad thing in Mage(Awakening) society, does this mean that dating vampires is taboo, since it would make the mage inclined to live longer?
>>96763561from my understanding, being an immortal mage is seen badly because it entails pattern corruption. Basically it causes more problems than it's worth and generally makes bad things happen.
>>96763561Why the fuck would I date something that specifically does not consume a majority of goods and services and is part of my reality that causes the line to go up? Are you some kind of dipshit?
>>96763320>>96763544It's actually supposed to be rough Brujah brawler girl and the prim and proper Ventrue businesswoman exploring each other's bodies.
>>96763599Go be gay somewhere else, rugmuncher.
>>96763599So close.It's the prim and proper Ventrue businesswoman mewling as her Lasombra rival plays her body like a fiddle. The humiliation will positively ruin future outfits when she recalls the seduction
>>96763587-t. Syndicate mage
>>96763477>But don't know what you mean by trouble player with the temmies.Their incentive to invest in ghouls, ghouls, and more ghouls can get irksome in non-troupe play games, slowing the game to a crawl. Vicissitude can attract players that are only interested in Vicissitude at the expense of all else and come off as more of a vessel of their powers than a real person. I wonder if that's what inspired the author who introduced the space AIDS plot Also, in my experience active players do not necessarily need to cause "havoc" or do "deranged shit". I do enjoy active players mind you but oftentimes doing something crazy or ill-advised just comes at the expense of the other PCs, since you basically just got them into trouble as well.
>>96763590Based, I daresay.
>>96763308NosferatuGargoyles
>>96763680>Tremmies create ghoulsI thought that they couldn't create ghouls. Vicissitude is interesting though so I can't blame people seeing it as the only solution when they have it
>>96763696>I thought that they couldn't create ghouls.Just to clarify, we are talking about the Tzimisce. The guys who have actual names for specific types of ghouls they use. My brother in Caine, I don't think anyone uses ghouls more than Tzimisce.
Where's the information about Arikel/Ishtar/Toreador being in Greece from?The wiki does not seem to provide a citation
>>96763308Lasombra traditional, right? Right.Nictuku. Lamia, if Nictuku don't count.
All of you are wrong. It's the haughty and ambitious miss perfect Ventrue falling head over heels for a handsome and manly Sorcerer (mage doesn't exist at this table) who she met by pure happenstance. this one actually happened too
What ways are there to purify a corrupt Caern/Node/etc, either one that was originally Gaian or one that was created by BSD/Yama Kings/Baali/etc?Not just by the Garou, but also by other splats, even the weirder ones. Someone finds a place of power that seems to be Evil, what can they possibly do to cleanse it?I'm guessing Mage and Demon would have some stuff at least, but would vampires or changelings? Would it be within the reach of the magic of a linear sorcerer or an ExWoD Exalted? Could a ghost or a shih do anything about it?
>>96763765Sounds like nerd wish-fulfillment by Tremere himself. Or Saulot.
>>96763832Why would Tremere's wish-fulfillment be F Vampire x M Human? Is he a cuck?
Which is the best Path and why is it Mastigos?
>>96763842Why do you think he became a vampire? Immortality? He figured that out years ago. He was insecure.
I’d hate to be a vampire simply because it would be impossible to goon.
>>96763308I'm a Lilithchad but a Morrigan is fine too
>>96763308>What is your favorite traditional clanA tie between Tzimisce and Salubri. I absolutely adore everything about the Tzimisce from Vicissitude to Revenants to Szlatcha. Salubri appeals to my inner moralfag and I deeply enjoy playing a vampiric healer. >What is your favorite weird clan?Tzimisce. See above.Since I am thinking about it. Would a Camarilla Tzimisce be a viable concept? I was thinking of a former Sabbat Tzimisce who's territory fell to the Camarilla and he just switched because he didnt want to move. Really focus on the regal nature of the Tzimisce and aspire to become primogen.
>>96763712My bad there then
>>96763777A corrupted caern probably had lots of bad shit happen, so it could become a haunt
>>96763973>Would a Camarilla Tzimisce be a viable concept?I sure as hell wouldn't allow it at my table.
>>96763973see>>96764199I would immediately think you’re the kind of faggot that plays a chaotic good tiefling or you have otherkin identifiers on your Facebook/Twitter page.
>>96763973Tzimisce antitribu? Maybe. Cammie Tzimisce? probably not, as I understand it vampires just don't like the Tzimisce
>>96763973>Camarilla TzimisceHe's either in prime territory they can't force him out of or he's doing some kind of service only he can do for the Camarilla while he thinks he's being magnanimous or whatever the word is, for hosting their club house.Primogen's kind of an interesting angle. Would he recognize the utility and respect the position affords? Seneschal might be more appropriate if you're tryna focus on the imperious and austere nature of such a dragon. A position he'd consider high up but loose enough he can be undisturbed, especially if he got the typical ventrue prince that micro-manages everything to the point that he can drop in six months out of a decade and it'd be enough to fulfil "host"/court obligations the dragon's nature demands A scourge might be fitting but I doubt a normal court would give carte blanche to a Tzimisce that may be a half a decade away from becoming an Autarkis and more of a problem.
>>96763973I think that's a great idea and your character concept would be a grear addition to any game. Tzimisce are by far the most interesting clan. I don't get it why they're always the throwaway bad guys.
>>96764259I think I got my terms mixed up. Seneschal actually fits more what I had in mind. I had 2 ways of going about it. Either he acts more as an investigator with Animalism and Auspex or an enforcer that uses Vicissitude as a dirty tactic in brawls or busts out horrid form when things get serious. The fear of literally smacking the smile off someone's face would be useful for intimidation. I personally prefer the investigator idea because I would play him as a bored but paranoid regent who wants to keep tabs on everyone. Get a little Vicissitude to disguise my appearance or any ghouls I'd employ as field agents.Im imagining him as somewhat recently embraced. Details and motivations would change to fit the chronicle.
>>96763308>Traditional clanVentrue or Lasombra. "I was born to lead, not to read">Weird clanLamiae for that Lilith necromantic flavor. Or Samedi for zombie looks>>96763599Best ending >>96763973Any concept is viable if you can justify it and roleplay it out. Antitribu exist, personal interests exist, grudges exist, pragmatic decision-making exist.
Does anyone else have cross-splat fatigue?
>>96764860Are you actually playing cross-splat? Or just taking on the internet about them?
>>96764869Talking on the internet. If it were a tableside problem that'd be an easy fix. It's become fairly difficult recently to JUST talk about one splat without other people injecting cross-splat.
Malkavian sex
what clan to play if you want to go in a rape spree? talking seriously. either female or male is fine
>>96764899Br*jah
>>96764884I personally don't engage in conversations that don't involve bloodsuckers and bloodsuckers only>>96764899A black human. Not a vampire, sex is not something they are interested in
Twink malkavian bf
>>96763777Without mentioning anything splat-specific:>Eliminate the material causes and effects of the corruption within the area.>Eliminate the supernatural presence lording over the corruption and propagating it.>Establish and propagate goodness within the area and spread the influence of this goodness.A group of normal humans could come across a pit that is an industrial waste dumping ground, somehow destroy the spirit of waste and decay lording over the place, relocate all of the industrial waste and begin a deep cleaning and rewilding project of the local area. Without any sort of magic, it would take years to spiritually neutralise the pit and decades of genuine of love and care to make a caern out of it. It's not easy but it can be done.
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>>96765003Schizo ramble from closeted furries of pol
Can a ghoul become a skin dancer if he gets enough garou pelts? Does he stay ghouled or does he break free when if he does? Could a ghoul who becomes a skindancer be embraced? If he can, does he keep his fera powers?
>>96765168Fuck off, Samuel Haight.
>>96763861Nah, Acanthus is #1.Mastigos #2.
>>96765255Don't be mean to my favorite ashtray
>>96764223Other than Tremere, they wouldn't have a reason to dislike high humanity Tzimisce. One could even work as a plastic surgeon for other vamps, though I assume there'd have to be some kind of limits enforced, otherwise the Tzimisce could make anyone look like anyone they want
I’ve worked out some stuff for my Bloodborne crossover game. It’s based on Hunter and all the hunters are imbued. Their patron is the Great One the Good Hunter evolved into during Bloodborne’s true ending. While it is “benevolent” it is no longer a human and thinks in a totally alien way. Being exposed to it drives most people mad because their human minds can’t process that level of Insight.All imbued instinctively know how to create Bloodborne style trick weapons, there is an ideal one of them and they know it. These weapons deal aggravated damage. Most hunters focus on a particular type of monster and their personal weapon reflects that. Their blood is also magical. If you’re a vampire and you drink it then you will likely go insane because of the visions you’ll receive. The camarilla strictly forbid feeding on the imbued after an incident with. Tremere and an imbued in New York but no one knows exactly what happened. Imbued blood is considered very valuable by nephandi and less savory mages that are aware of it but they are wary of the imbued. Some packs of garou were completely slaughtered since imbued hunters are almost designed to fight with them but hunters also took great losses. This led to a de facto truce although many hunters are obsessed with werewolves and see them as the “beasts” they are meant to destroy. They now hunt black spiral dancers
>>96763346>Praise the wyld>Reject the weaver and it's gifts (law, order, science)>Why r we drool retards who angry all time?Gee, I wonder
>>96762926Well, guess what, that's exactly what typically goes on. A laundry list of factions appears in the KoptE Companion and Heresies of the Way. Even in the KotE core, it specifically says that they do not get along but came up with some kind of combination Mandarin Japanese word that sounds like the reading of those words in Dungan to try and make the Cammies and Sabbat think that everything was more monolithic, which is also stupid because it's not like Asia was made yesterday.>>96762989Vampires are the Space Marines of WoD, yes.
>>96763599If they're Sabbat you could call it Antitribadism.
>>96765168>Ghoul>Becomes Garou>Fera powersIf you are Garou you are not Fera. Fera is the word that Garou use to refer to other werebeasts. Various Fera also have words that similarly refer to "everyone in this group but us", such as Killi (Bastet), Bete (Mokole), Ovid (Ananasi), and Khurah (Nagah).Also if any Garou gets embraced you just use the Abomination rules, even if they used the rite of sacred rebirth.
>>96765424Sound cool anon, I would to contribute but it's been years since I played Bloodborne. When do you play to run your game?
>>96765424I hope you have a good time. But I really don't have all that much to say.
>>96765168in the vast majority of cases, Skindancers don't get to keep other supernatural powers or merits from other templates unless the ST goes out of their way to say "yes"
>>96763647Nah, that's how it happen in the Lasombra head beforehand, then she get reminded why the Ventrue are at the top.She'll convince herself next time will totally be different this time, and try again with the same results in six months. It has happened half a dozen times already. The Ventrue think they are dating.
>>96765931You may be in the wrong WoD.
>>96763973How does he see if his eyes are horns?
>>96766238You're asking Tzimisce for practicality? Really?
>>96766238Magic.
>>96765708Carlos...
>>96764608Hound might be more applicable in that case, especially if you're going neonate. Of course the court itself could be new itself or some other explanation for why a young tzimisce is a seneschal. If his sire is around, perhaps they're a primogen themselves.Although the bigger thing I'm now curious about is whether that paranoia was around when they were a mortal or did it pop up when they began interacting with other vamps in the area?Also point for seneschal: knowing the hospitality angle, he or his sire might have the best 'unofficial' meeting grounds that aren't elysium
I used to love Ventrue until I saw some slimy CEO descendants of royalty types and I thought that that's the closest you'll get to an IRL Vent. There's something inherently repulsive about them, I couldn't tell you what.
>>96766388>bro is not even posting pictures of the Count of Paris To be fair, some rl blue bloods are cute.
>>96766423This guy I like, he at least commands respect. Those 2 I posted look like they snort coke off hookers' asses on the daily. LoathsomeAnd your picrel is a vapid Toreador, clearly
>>96766388Ventrue men fall into this weird category where they try ever so hard to be an exact copy of their superior/sire cause they looked so much like their father when alive. They're a stressful week away from hunting down a Tzimisce to turn them into a body double just to give them that edge in confidence. Not realizing they'll forever be an uncanny double likely to infuriate those higher up since they only know how to copy.
>>96766461Don't you fucking dare insult the heir of one of the pretenders to the throne of the Kingdom of two Sicilies! Also, the count is fucking loser.
>>96766074Sounds like something the Ventrue's senior ghoul tells an underling if the tryst is discovered. Which would totally not prompt said senior ghoul, their underling, and the Lasombra's most loyal ghoul from being in an adjacent hallway next time. Spying on their masters fighting for dominance under the guise that they don't want the haven to come down nid-coitus.fuck these circle captchas
>>96764899Ravnos (compulsive crime is rape)
In a scenario where vampire A has a ghoul, and feeds them a bunch of their blood, then vampire B feeds off the ghoul. Would B be level 1 blood bound to A?
>>96764899Tzimisce.I make people grow a dick inside their anus and rape themselves.
>>96766772you can't rape yourself, that doesn't make sense
>>96766761Nope, it only causes a Blood Bond if drunk from the vampire itself.
>>96766761ST-discretion I'd say. I'd personally lean towards no since ghouls don't have the vitae circulating through their system like blood and the very direct association with it being given by the vampire. Maybe if it was a revenant that had clear association markers to try and warn off other kindred, might create the weakest bond imaginable.
>>96766301I wouldnt want him to start as seneschal. Becoming seneschal would be his ambition. I figured there was some natural paranoia in his mortal days but being a Camarilla Tzimisce would amplify it because the Cam would naturally be wary of him and he would assume Sabbat Tzimisce would want him dead.
>>96766761I know in v5 there is a blood sorcery ability called transitive vitae where you can store your blood and preserve its properties. The system even says you can store such vitae in a ghoul. Id assume the older books have a similar power but i never looked too deeply into thaumaturgy.
>>96766782You derive pleasure from raping because you prioritize your own sensations.I derive pleasure from the pain and confusion that comes from rape because I simply enjoy watching others in distress.
>>96766909I'd argue just being a Tzimisce would key up the innate paranoia. After all, he now has to deal with a very real sense of territory that is his yet there are people in it that can kick his ass/disrespect his hold on the territory. Then bring up the Camarilla veiled distrust despite him being very cordial. In any case sounds like a solid Tzimisce youngling that may care more about the area than the ruling sect.
>>96766923This guys tzimisces
>>96763973>Since I am thinking about it. Would a Camarilla Tzimisce be a viable concept?Only time I've seen it work was with a high humanity, low gen Tzimisce that was so bizarre that everyone mistakes him for a Malk.
>>96765708
Are they right? Is magic science and is science magic? >>96759662
>>96767395Yes. “Lol it’s beyond your understanding it’s magic I ain’t gotta explain shit” is just nuance, or lolmystery. Nothing actually goes against reality, technically, if it’s real / it happened. The supernatural is more or less meaning “we don’t understand it well enough”. Even the Hermetic mages *understand* their shit. It’s all how reality works to them. Ascension is a perfect surrealist game that pokes at the changing perceptions of reality throughout history. I wish we had more magic-by-any-other-name terms, because mad science isn’t the only one.
>>96767422> I wish we had more magic-by-any-other-name terms, because mad science isn’t the only one.Don’t the choristers call their magic ‘miracles’ or some shit? They’re not dumb enough to think it’s actually different, tho.
I don't hate Parenting for what it is. I hate it because it has no competition/equivalent.
>>96767430Not dumb enough to think it twice. It's why they beat it out of the neophytes
>there are mages "players" in my thread right nowDisgusting.
>>96767395Basically, yeah.Science is magic because everything is. Atoms are Quintessence arranged in a matter pattern. Gravity is Quintessence arranged in a forces pattern. Every theory, invention or discovery is derived from mankind's natural ability to affect reality even through seemingly debunking "supernatural" explanations.Magic is science because the basis of the scientific method still apply to how the Spheres work. It's just that not everyone can get to the experimentation step (i.e. the average sleeper can't interact with spirits in order to conduct an experiment involving them), and even if they do there are many potential variables in magic that aren't necessarily present in sleeper science (i.e. a dreamspeaker and a verbena may get different results from the same experiment with spirits simply because of their ancestral legacy, religious background, etc.). Therefore, it's harder to isolate instances like we can in a lab environment.
>>96767430Every single Tradition thinks their way is the way. And yes, Chorus too.
>>96767476Kind of agree, yeah. In a way that's also the same reasoning why I couldn't hate TTS. There is/was an abundance of 40k humor so Alfabusa's wankery didn't feel annoying.I've always wanted to make a comic/illustrated web-novel about my chronicles, but I'm afraid of getting deep into it only for Paradox to shut me down. Which would be really funny because it's mostly Mage chronicles.
>>96764860Yes the other guys from other splats are increasingly annoying and repetitive. I wonder if it wouldn't be just a good idea to make a different thread for extended wod and just wod with vtm.
>>96767691That's worse idea than separating WoD and CofD.(Also, go cut up your own books too. Half the VTM books involve other splats)
I just read Fevre Dream and I wonder how much of it inspired VtM. I can't think of another work where the drive to drink blood and destroy inherent to the vampire is referred to as the Beast. The vampires also somewhat remind of the Lasombra, I don't know what else could have inspired them.
>>96767691The schreknet thread has been a godsend for weening away vampfag talk. All you guys want to do is talk about your edgy special snowflakes in roundabout ways.
>>96767700I don't care about cofd but the other schizos and repetitive dudes who keep having the same discussion on timeloop over the thread are certainly tiresome>involve other splats the corebooks for owod are very neutral with the occasional mention none of them force any type of crossover (and watching this thread makes me think there was a good reason for that)
>>96767748thanks for confirming you're a snowflake
>>96767769Are those bloody tears, or just anal leakage from your last faggot vampire larp?
>>96767476That's in a nutshell every form of current year entertainment. There's only a tiny handful of people handling any given niche and they're all some degree of incompetent, poser, poor-production, and/or misunderstands the intent/tone of what they're working on (and H:tP is at least two of those). Those outside of those ranks who have a clue or talent seem to be afflicted with absolute laziness and inaction in everything except making excuses for such (which never seem to effect the impoverished brainlets actually making content).I've been driven to start doing my best in what I do (which sadly isn't WoD or tabletop rulesets/setting) but there's only so much one can do and it's disheartening to be surrounded by so much incompetence and inaction.
>>96763308As someone who has only ever ran D&D and Cthulhu games where a campaign is just a bunch of linked isolated adventures (dungeons, investigations etc) how does one approach making a chronicle to one of the WoD-games? I have a shitton of WoD books (Vampire, Werewolf, Mage, Wraith, Changeling, Hunter) and CofD books (Vampire, Werewolf, Mage, Changeling, Hunter, Mummy) and would actually try to run one of these. Thinking of Vampire since my players are familiar with Bloodlines but one player is interested in Wraith.
>>96767655If they didn't think their way was the way, a mage's magic wouldn't work, including a Technocrat's. Very few mages are able to have a paradigm so liberal and all-encompassing that they're able to accept all other paradigms as valid.
>>96767801Crack open your copy of Chicago By Night and use that as a template. It's the chronicle format that caused everyone to fall in love with VtM and WoD in the first place.
>>96767801Generally, the most important to Vampire is Intrigue. Create a court of vampires, figure out who's trying to fuck over who, have your players get caught up in said scheming in some way.Encourage your players to set their own goals as well. One wants to be Primogen? Well, how are they planning to do that? What sort of schemes can they themselves come up with? How do others react to that? Sure, another primogen might snitch to the prince if they find out, but maybe they help them out instead (or even WHILE also snitching) because it helps their own agenda.That's kinda what the default is slanted towards, and what Vampire specifically does best. Other splats have other strengths.
>>96767850Thanks, I'll hunt down a PDF of it. Which version comes recommended? Actual rulebook I have is the Revised edition and not the 20th anniversary or the 5th edition.
>>96767801Imo start with hunter. It allows them to learn about the setting without feeling overloaded about knowing this or that. My group started with vampire and half of my players were kinda frustrated because they felt very out of the loop. It didnt help that 3 of us wanted to do "big idea" chronicles instead of an introduction chronicle to actually familiarize them with the setting.
>>96767691Doesn't most VtM discussion boil down to one of the following topics though?>hi guys can you tell me what the difference between ordinary VtM and V5 is?>what is [insert antediluvian here] up to these days?>how is the masquerade still able to function in the 21st century?>how does the sabbat avoid being wiped out if they're so retarded?>wow, anarchs are really shit>wow, brujah are really shit>wow, tremere are so cool>wow, tzimisce are so cool
>>96767919you have been timelooping your tradition/technocracy cringe bait in the last 10 threads or 20 threads
>>96767942I'm not even a Mage player, I just recognise that VtM conversations in these threads aren't exactly stimulating.
>>96767954yet you don't seem to have a problem with the last 10/20/30 threads being timelooping garbage by the baiters, curious
>>96767954Goddamn marauders, can't accept reality.
>>96767967Just acknowledging that a VtM-exclusive thread wouldn't be much better.
>>96767801Granted I've only ever run relatively local games for mortal PCs (hunter; The Vigil and occasionally outright vanilla CoD) that are clueless in the grand scheme of things, but I imagine my general "method" could be applied to any other tier/splat in Wod/CoDI had good experience with keeping things very "sandbox-y".I come up with a problem like>loved one is a vampire's ghoul>the custodian of a local themed family hotel is a changeling shoving kids into a gateway to Arcadia to keep his True Fae master's ire at bay>skinwalker snatches your buddy's skin (figuratively, maybe literally as well) on a camping trip and tries to slip into his lifeYou come up with key players related to these problems, so in the vampire example it would be the loved one and the vampire, naturally, but you can throw in stuff like>obsessive "ex" of the vampire willing to spill the beans that this vampire is bad news>employer of this loved one you didn't know about, indicating this loved one is making income and spends none of it on him/herself.Then you throw in the hook that gets the players into this story>Loved one of one of the PCs is acting extremely weird, hiding things from this PC, dresses up uncharacteristically and is awake/asleep at odd hours>The group encounters a grown ass, bearded man in his early 30s naked and sobbing uncontrollably on the side of the road, he insists he walked through a door at the arcade into a magical place, ran away from something scary, his name is Timmy and he's 10 years old.>Ever since coming home from his camping trip, mark forgot key info about his own life (including looking both ways when crossing a road or how to drive) and when someone says something he tries to play it off like he always knew and just "forgot". plus he keeps inviting people to spontaneous camping trips to the spot he's been in.And then you set them loose to do what they want and the consequences would be obvious since it's just the real world.
>>96767919True, we need more Ventrue glazing.
>>96767748>The schreknet threadHalf of the posts in schrecknet are people wanting to scream about cross-splat lore without breaking character.
>>96767801>one player is interested in WraithThe way that Wraith is sort of structured and the larger lore of the setting I think it's actively hard to introduce players into it, maybe it could be best to introduce them to easy shit like Vampire or Hunter and then see if they would be interested in trying a different splat. As for a Chronicle I know there are modules available which are decent
>>96767954Maybe we should just start arguing about Wraith instead of Mage or Vampire or retarded furries
>>96768402I'd prefer if we didn't have more edgy joker posting.
What hunter organizations exist in Reckoning?
>>96768188>without breaking characterThat's pretty neat
>>96768402What is there to argue about? Unlike all the others there's no real factions to debate over, Oblivion is clearly bad, Charon is a dummy, Stygia is a bureaucratic shithole, etc.
>>96768425The only other options is Changeling, Mummy, or Demon and I feel like those aren't very popular here either
>>96768402A tenth of the people who play VtM play WtA or MtAs and a tenth of people who play WtA or MtAs play WtO or CtD.
>>96768487Changeling could be interesting if Dreaming was more interesting and the Dreaming's most annoying soldier didn't get a chip on their shoulder when it came to the Lost. Mummy, does Mummy even have enough to be interesting that isn't just trying to beat off how good they are?
>>96768463All the same organizations that exist in OWoD, check out First Contact for the Imbued's take on some of the big names
>>96768484just offering a solution
>>96767919True, we need more Lasombra glazing.
>>96768402We should argue about how Giovanni doesn't make any sense if you go by WtO rules
>>96768562Vampire magic type of shit I assume. Bloodlines makes it seem like they can just make zombies and other undead things without a soul, Night Road seems to say that for an actual soul they need fetters. I would assume that more or less goes along with how Wraith is but even Wraith and Wraith media is a bit inconsistent I think
>>96768562It's why big bad Charon stuck a finger up Auggie's ass a couple decades back. Stupid as shit that the Giovanni's necromancy poses any sort of threat to either side
>>96768402Charon did nothing wrong except that one thing
>>96768571Necromancy doesn't need Soul for normal Zombies. Just 1 point of Willpower for the spell and 1 point of Blood for each reanimated corpse.This sound bad, and it is, somewhat but they don't decay and last infinitely unless destroyed. Meaning you can stockpile your zombie army and bam, zombie horde against your enemies. Get some Disciplines and Combo Disciplines and you can give your zombies Fortitude, Celerity and Potence too.
>>96767395Only in Mage. If you're playing a different game, anyone talking about how Mage works will sound like someone trying to chase down Pepe Silvia.
Alright so Ive heard from you guys M20 is ass because >Brucattodespite the 20th being overall the best for woof and vampire, particularly DAV20. Mage Revised was the good one, right? Could anyone explain to me why that is?Also, how's Wraith20?
>>96769278>Could anyone explain to me why that is?Well let's see we got>father's thrusting cock>a 50-year old telling us that you can store campaign info on COMPUTERS!!1!!11!>a half-page sidebar on how to pick the right food for the setting the story takes place in (fast food bad btw)>nice section warning you that if you can't play Nephandi because you'll turn Evil (and not the cool "Evil" that Christians whinge, the REAL, BAD "Evil" that only TRVE MAGICKERS know about)>overcomplication of magic so that you need multiple spheres to do anything>failure to explain what spheres you specifically need to things>followed by a splat that also failed to explain that>and a Traditions splat that was turbo fucking retardedI think that sums it up.
>>96769341is this fucking for realmani do not even care about mage but i shudder to imagine M5 if this is M20
How do the settites go from set stealing or getting power from the wyrm(?) to preaching nihilistic gnosticism disguised as vice peddling?And where does set even fit into the overall chronology of vampires and Cain?
