If you can't describe your character without mentioning their race/class, you're not playing a character.And that's okay, but it's good to be aware of
>>96767412>physical traits don't define a character! Other characters that aren't characters:>blind swordsman>one-armed boxer>any form of cyborg
>>96767412[Laughs in Unknown Armies]
You're a stinky shitposter OP.
>>96767412But if it takes you longer than a sentence to explain your character, you get called a story games faggot.
>>96767412The daughter of a cult leader who tried to sacrifice her to claim a devil's power. Ended up botching the ritual, trappping the devil in her. Now she and the devil are trying to seperate from each other.
>>96767412I liked liuskin's heretical milf becca.
>>96767412Those things matter if they help provide context to the rest of it though. Not in a "you couldn't explain it" way, but in a "this helps the person I'm talking to grasp it more easily/thoroughly."
>>96767641>you get called a story games faggot.By whom.
>>96767412I don't normally play class+race systems, but even if I did I'd still go through the same three step process before I even engage with the rules.>Half paragraph backstory that leads into the character becoming a PC.The youngest child of a interstellar trucking family who, instead of begging one of his big sisters for a spot on one of their convoys, decided to go join a mercenary army his family's been working with for generations.>AppearanceDue to generations of living in low-levels of artificial gravity, his entire family is very tall and gangly with creepy elongated digits. He is otherwise androgynally handsome, with long dark hair and very pale skin. His fashion sense leads him to usually wear an evac suit, a heavy cyberpunk jacket with ballistic lining, and cool sunglasses.>Personality keywordsDangerously curiousChemically assisted good moodYou are his best friend and he will die for you
>>96768007Nobody in the real world. The seething hatred of so-called story-shitting exists only in online circles infested with osrtards.>captchaYes captcha, most osrtards who aren't male hambeasts are sissy little homo manlets.
>>96767412>ambitious upper class knowledge seeker>outwardly nice and polite, ruthless and calculating on the inside>craves both personal and societal power
>>96767412By "class", do you mean: (1) the package of game mechanical abilities that you take at level-up and character creation, or (2) any vocation that exists?The former should be easy to avoid for anyone who isn't retarded. The latter would be downright retarded, but I can't be sure that you aren't retarded, OP.
>>96768168In the context of tabletop RPGs, there is only one definition of the term class anyone who isn't a retard pretending to be smarter than he really is uses. I'll give you some time to figure it out, you fucking mongoloid.
>>96767412>give too little>NOT A CHARACTER>give too much>THEATER KID FAGGOTthis board sucks. you all suck.
>>96767533Yes.>>96767641Yes.It's not difficult.>>96768034See?
>>96768056I mean storyshitters definitely exist, but having half a page of backstop for your character doesn't make you a storyshitter.
>>96768438Give me more than one sentence or yes, it's not an actual character. Don't give me a 9 page backstory or yes, you're a theater kid faggot. There exists an in-between and two things can be true at once you absolute melt.
>>96768657*backstory
I'm probably what you'd call as "theater kid", and I despise written backgrounds.
>>96767412OPs an amateurYou should be able to relate the race of your character without mentioning it. >A pimp named SlickbackNo race stated, but you know how he looks like.
>>96768683Would you consider 1 to 3 paragraphs to be an acceptable guideline?
>>96768657>definitely existno they don't, nobody uses that word.
>>96768837People who play tabletop RPGs because they don't want to do freeform online RP are real. They're the whole reason why PBTA exists.
>>96768881That's not what you said, you used a made up forced buzzword that doesn't mean anything.
>>96767533Those are gimmicks, not characters. A gimmick is fine, but it's no replacement for personality or motivation.
>>96768837No games.
>>96767412Hey, I quite like playing the Black Guy
>>96769034projection
>>96768625>>96769024>a blind swordsman seeking to prove his skills are sharper than ever despite his loss of vision isn't a character because you used the descriptor of "blind" and "swordsman" despite how relevant it is to the overall character concept Holy shit you guys are retards. Lemme guess, media literacy experts?
>>96768888>Quads wasted on a kid who doesn't understand that he's talking to more than one person who have different takes on the concept.Sad.
>>96769219>Seething that quads pointed out storyshitter is spammed bullshitlol
>>96769368You retarded fuckstick, I'm mostly agreeing with you.Storyshitting is a stupid meme forced by osrtards and gamelets, but is based on the real player archetype who puts the story so far above the game that it hurts the rest of the group's play.That's all I've been saying since this thread moved to the topic, but you're so fucking retarded you can't read more than 1.5 posts up to create the whole of your opinion.
>>96767412White, working class.
>>96769446>Please use the definition for storyshitter I've madeno.
>>96769479I didn't give a definition of storyshitter, it's too poorly defined of a concept to talk about meaningfully. It's just a buzzword thrown out by faggots mad that people roleplay in their RPGs.I am simply pointing out that there is a real archetype of player the insult was based on.How are you this fucking stupid?
>>96769494>Ur dumb!said the man who desperately wants to make a point he claims is entirely unrelated to the previous points made which I've not demonstrated care for a single time.
>>96768798Yeah, that's more than reasonable. It's certainly not storyshitter material.
Rose from the slums to the higher echelons of power. Not very religious, somewhat culturally so.He is sort of a bureaucrat wanting things to run smoothly. He will step up to be in charge if someone has to, but will happily pass that mantle along to someone else who is capable of running the show. He is just fine with being a cog in the machine. He has disdain for commoners, but is not outwardly hostile unless they wrong him or the status-quo. He appreciates people who put in the work, artisans, and will try to help them accomplish their goals. He loves animals, unless the animal is immidietaly hostile, he will try not to harm it. He doesn't care much for gold and money, but has an eye for handcrafted valuables and likes to dress the part too. He will do much, if not everything, for a friend.
>>96767412He's a stupid yokel who was pressed ganged into a group of bandits, who then tried to mug a bog hag. The hag killed the other bandits, but saw that my character still had a chance to turn it around, so she cursed him with a donkey head that will persist until he does something truly heroic.
>>96767412One of My players used to insist on playing freakshit because "humans are boring and not interesting". Despite that, every one of his non-human characters was was identical. They were all brooding, edgy, "muh whole family/clan/pirate crew was slain and now I'm out for revenge" types. Eventually he grew out of it, but he did honestly think having a fancy race/class mix compensated for a complete lack of personality.
>>96769067>seeking to prove his skills are sharper than ever despite his loss of visionYou see, that's the character part you've managed to add right there, "Blind swordsman" or "Swordsman who is blind" doesn't necessarily include any of the rest of that, he could just been a guy who is now blind, thus his skills now actually are dogshit.
>>96769810And you failed to read the OP>If you can't describe your character without mentioning their race/classPhysicap characteristics and racial/cultural backgrounds are an intrinsic part of any character, retard. This even applies to IRL, an indian or african will be regarded differently from a japanese or european one.
>>96769889Goalposts, schizo goalposts, (You).
>>96767412Rebecca sex. Baby-making sex with Rebecca. Mating press, reverse cowboy, Amazon press, Condor's Flight, Helicopter, everything, everything with Becca. Unprotected, protected, with or without I don't give a fuck. Reproduction ritual with Rebecca. Tummy licking, hand holding, head patting, finger interlocking, marriage, all of it with Rebecca. I'll give a kidney, all of my blood and the lives of all my close relatives for a sight of Rebecca. For a NIGHT with Rebecca from Cyberpunk
>>96768080Love those types. I once had an NPC socialite who was so good at The Game that she was intensely bored with it all, despite never letting her perfect mask slip. She's probably going to graduate to secret crime baroness if I ever return to her (which would have had some great synergy with her gestapo brother, if he hadn't copped it)
>>96767412>>96767533>a gullible small town baker
>>96768796>>A pimp named Slickback>No race stated, but you know how he looks like.Greasy white boy whose hair makes you want to wash your hands just looking at it? Like you know he was pimply when he was a teenager, but now he just has that vaguely oily quality that makes you uncomfortable.
>>96767412An affable middle-aged ___ whose weathered complexion and practical clothing imply a traveler's lifestyle.His lumpy scalp is clean bald as if all the hair on his head only ever grew on his chin in a bushy black beard cut straight across a few inches down.A large knife sheath is tucked into his belt under his cornflower cloak that can barely wrap around his barrel body.He makes sure everyone's got a drink at his table before he tumbles out a bawdy limerick and cracks himself up.As the night wanes on he goads any willing warblers into soft song and slow tales as he settles into a doze with his hands clasped on his fat belly.
>>96767412What does this have to do with killing monsters and looting dungeons?
>>96768056lol storyshitter
>>96767641No, but I got screamed out of an Exalted game once for having a one page character explanation/backstory. Large font to make it seem like the page was more full than it was. ST didn't even look at it more than an instant before starting to have a mental breakdown at me about how they're 'not reading this garbage'. And they asked me to write a backstory in the first place rather than just slap together abilities I want. These days I write a 1 sentence concept that I then expand to three sentences to tell the DM. The rest I make up as I go and just say shit to other characters when details become relevant. Haven't been screamed at again.
>>96771464That's not a sign of having a shit character, that's a sign of having a shit Storyteller.For fuck's sake if there's any system that would justify having a relatively long backstory full of slaying dragons and laying waste to entire nations, it'd be Exalted of all things.
Don't play games with classes and levels.
>>96771505It was going to be a character originally from one of the dragonblooded families too. So I needed a reason for why they were kind of a weirdo compared to others of their family and other details. I never got to play in the game, though. After the ST had a meltdown at me about my character, I decided to go for a lunar exalted as something much easier to bs a backstory for. Which everyone was ALL FOR. No weird questions. No being yelled at. Easy to vet with the ST. When I started asking for tips on how to build one properly, they got super weird and banned me from the game.I didn't play any tabletop games for a long time after that.
>>96769520>If I throw enough word salad I can pretend like posts from at least three different people calling me dumb are all the same person!!!You've lost.
>>96771586>can't readlol
>>96771464>These days I write a 1 sentence concept that I then expand to three sentences to tell the DM. The rest I make up as I go and just say shit to other characters when details become relevant.I do pretty much the same thing. I'll start with a general idea of a character in my head that I'll iterate over again and again until I have a solid idea of who and what the character is. I'll even try to find a songs to fit the general vibe of the character I'm going for. It helps narrow things down as I'm work-shopping the character.They only time I went overboard on a character's backstory I never showed it to the DM because I wasn't going to show him a four page backstory that mostly went over one moment of my character's life and wasn't relevant to the campaign.If I'm handing something to the GM, I'll make sure it sticks to 1 paragraph at a maximum and/or just a list of bullet points of things that are important or that the GM can use a hooks.
>>96771567It's sad when a bad group turns people away from the hobby completely. Sorry you had to go through that. Did you ever find a good Exalted group to play with?
>>96771801Did an Exalted oneshot with some friends a while ago. I played some terrible throwing solar who could sneak around and scout. I kept us out of some nasty fights. Someone played Not-Arturia and did the Sword of Promised Victory to sink a boat full of the Wyld Hunt. Was pretty cool. We were testing the newer version of Exalted at the time.>>96771640My process is more like finding a thing I want to just do then building around that idea in a short gimmick>Eh.. tomboy who throws rocks.That's it. That's the idea. It was a CoC campaign so that becomes throwing rocks at eldritch creatures comming out of the sea. And whatever is going on in the game helps fill in stuff from there. A recent coastal disaster caused a mess and is linked to all the monsters. So my character got seperated from her family in the evac and is trying to get somewhere to get to them. From there you can easily bullshit stuff as it comes up in conversation.Honestly, most of my successful characters come from short ideas that I don't premeditate too much.
>>96767412Let me try (Human Ranger, in a world were humanity was almost driven extinct, from the one human refuge-city whose leadership subtly sold the community to devilkind in exchange for the colony's survival.).A young man, dark-haired and with sharp facial features, who seems to be perpetually angry except when a friend or woman catches his attention. Slightly over average height, he's built more for agility than strength even as his muscles are well-defined. He wears dark brown clothes over piecemeal leather armor, and unless undercover, a badge identifying him as a bounty hunter. His garbs, sheathes and quiver are worn in a thoughtful way, both to access quickly and when grappled in different ways.He seems not to care about how others perceive him, especially when he suggests course of actions that makes others hearing it flinch. But that is a mere reflection of his penchant for efficacy, of his desire to stop violent criminals and spare their next victim: What people don't see is that he struggles financially because he picks only bounties on people that act immorally, not merely illegally. Freedom fighters, youths who insult guards, or just steal to survive... well, they tend to get away. With a stomach at least half-full.>>96768080Sounds perfect for WoD.
>>96770134I accept your concession
>>96770460>bakerGimmick detected, you're not playing a character.
>>96769067No-one said that, you mongoloid.Reconsider suicide, illiterate.
>>96767412an angry little shit with massive insecurity issues over his shitty prosthetic arm
>>96771986>No-one said that, you mongoloidOP did and then doubled down. And now you're tripling down.
>>96771995>physical characteristicNot a character, sweaty
>>96771912I see, for me my process can produce wildly different but satisfactory results from my initial idea. For instance, Pic related was my initial inspiration for a character in a Lancer campaign and went through several iterations before ending up as the final result below.She started out as a fairly generic female pilot who, due to material shortages, had the legs of her mech replaced with tank treads. I began to develop her background more as a "gray towner" and, using setting notes as an influence, thought that it would make her a bit more wild, mystical or atavistic in nature. I later dropped the tread leg thing and leaned more into her mysticism. Traits of previous iterations did carry on over though. She ended up being a mix of Alyx Vance and The Oracle of Delphi though more introverted bordering on socially awkward.Name: Mina KanoCallsign: StrayMech name: PolecatBackstory: A 2nd Gen Colonist. Born the old fashioned way in a Graytown. Shortly after reports of gray settlements and towns being demolished by unknown attackers began filtering into Evergreen, Mina Kano walked in wearing her characteristic face paint. What drove her into the cockpit is anyone's guess. What is known is that she is a committed pilot who takes to her tasks with what others describe as a religious passion. She paints her mech with animistic features and esoteric symbols whose meaning are known only by the more atavistic natives of Evergreen.Her character portrait was Marie Locke from Brigador.I do sometimes stick with single ideas like you and then let the character grow as the campaign progresses. I recently played a Savage World game where I played a pilot named Benny "two sticks" with his only distinct feature starting out was that he always wore a bomber jacket. He later grew into a character that liked to play at being a hot shot pilot but that was to cover the fact that he was also a massive coward on par with Shaggy from Scooby-Doo.
>>96771945>Let me try (Human RangerStopped reading. You already failed.
