Previous thread>>96745548>What is /awg/?A thread to talk about minis and games which fall between the cracks, or peoples' homebrew wargames.The >>>/tg/hwg thread doesn't entertain fantasy (for good reason) and the other threads are locked to more specific games.This thread isn't tied to a game, a publisher, or a genre, let's just talk about fun wargames. Any scale, any company, any miniatures.>Examples of games that qualify.A Song of Ice and Fire, Argatoria, Batman Miniature Game, Carnevale, Conquest: The Last Argument of Kings,Deadzone, Dropfleet and Dropzone Commander, Freebooter's Fate, Frostgrave, Gaslands, Judge Dredd, HeroClix,Kings of War, Maelstrom's Edge, Malifaux, Marvel Crisis Protocol, Masters of the Universe: Battleground, Moonstone,Billhooks: Fantasia, OnePageRules, RelicBlade, Rumbleslam, Stargrave, Sludge, Urban War, Void, Warcaster, Warmachine, Xenotactics, Xenos Rampant......and anything else that doesn't necessarily have a dedicated thread.>Examples of companies providing rules and/or miniatures for alternative wargames.Archon Studio, Atomic Mass Games, Black Site Studios, CMON, Mantic, North Star Military Figures,OnePageRules, Osprey, Para Bellum, Seb Games, Spellcrow, TTCombat, Victrix, Wargames Atlantic, Warlord Games......and many other publishers.>Places to get minis; Updates to the minis list are welcome.https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D2DbNJ2mYAUxh5P9Pq9NZqS5tXHGn0i2JhZchEwbA2I/edithttps://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/373197.page>Novice Troves, meant to serve as a sampler of available systems. Check out the Share Thread for up-to-date troves.https://pastebin.com/MjtsC8AXhttps://mega.nz/#F!zSYW0I4a!vXh8-UPi_tWXpJES_-p4zg>Hobby Challenge theme for Octoberhttps://strawpoll.com/GPgVYBPYEna/results>thread question: No question, post a pic of your favorite army that you own
Warhost new dwarves reveal. I like them a lot, really looks like classic Tolkienesque dwarves instead of WoW dwarves
Is there a chance that mantic will give their old sculpts a digital stl send off?
I love they have slight Scandinavian influence
>>96771183I'm not sure if it's my favorite, compared to some of my malifaux crews, but I did enjoy painting them a lot more then I thought I would. And I'm rather proud I didn't butcher these infinity minis.My all time favorite is probably my Ronin peasants buntai that I painted up in 15mm.
>>96771501Show the buntai and name the maker. I'm moving from 28-32mm to 10-15mm and as a continental it's tough to find something affordable. Sengoku-wise there's the new Heiho box from WGA but everybody complains about the spears so the quest keep going.
>>96772171It's more HWG but I sometimes post HWG related stuff here instead due to the community being better.They are by SMOL miniatures on MMF. You may be able to get them printed by MMFs printing services though.It was a small game size, just to demo it basically so it's not many guys.
Halo flashpoint is tempting me
>>96771204I actually really like these sculpts. Like they were carved out of wood with nothing but a very sharp whittling knife. Soulful, for sore lack of a better term
>>96771204Those are good, very kievan rus like.
>>96772250>ManticAnon...
>>96772676From what I heard mantic actually writes solid rules. Models are hit and miss, ones produced by archon in my experience are of decent quality.
>>96772676Good Rules, and good miniatures. I know nothing about halo and never played the video games but I had fun the 3 times I played the game in our local store. I can see how this game is amazing to people who actually like the halo games and also like skirmish games.The respawn and the collection of better weapons on the map is super fun.
>>96772676More like >HaloAnon...
>>96769680As many as you need, there's plenty of hoods on the sprue.
>>96772687>>96772701they're fine. the last few years they've fallen in to the "keep relaunching to boost sales" spiral though, and that has ended well a grand total of zero times.plus it's an IP game, which is usually a bad sign. if you want halo, you could always just print halo dudes at your desired scale, and it's generic enough that any damn scifi ruleset can handle it.also tfw you think>didn't spartan just do a halo ground game?>oh, no that was like 15 years ago
So WGA are going to close?
>>96771204Tolkien never described his Dwarfs but if anything they'd look like iron age Jews not Slavs
>>96773457Nope.
>>96773462Tolkien made LOTR as a sort of founding mythos for the British isles. Why would they look like iron age Jews, you twit
>>96773574Chuds love inserting bullshit>>96773061Mantic rules are the best part. I would rate KOW over TOW any day and I'm lukewarm on the setting
>>96773582>"Tolkiens dwarves where clearly semitic, my fellow white men">"uhhh.... why look, it was a CHUD who said that"
>>96773574How do you explain the Haradrim?
>>96773654Didn't say that. The whole Chudschaunung is built on misquoting people
>>96773655The Hadadrim are Stinky smelly foreigners. The dwarves are not
>>96773462>Tolkien never described his Dwarfs but if anything they'd look like iron age Jews not SlavsWhy would they look like jews if he never described them? Seems like your just pushing bullshit to rustle Jimmies. Fuck off with that shit, we have enough fucking spergs here that we dont need your faggotry added to it.
>>96773462if anything they'd take after what inspired them, which is norse mythology. I mean elves, dwarves, trolls...it paints a pretty clear picture. Why the fuck would it be something so random? >He never described them, but it would be this.Anybody can make up random shit
Another preview interview for Starcraft came out where they higlighted the game flow, on event stage+preorder 23rd of October, with the alternate pose zeratul (cringe as it may be for Archon)>hybrid activation>3 phases per round - movement, shooting/charge and melee>each phase is interchangeable activation>the starting player for each phase is the one who finished previous one first (i guess start of movement is diceroll)>1k/2k points, forced 60/40 field/reserve>2/3 special cards per army that are either buildings or named strategies>RPS balancing with extra dice if you hit vs what you're strong againstPersonally I have some hope for the game but still bit cautious since it's Archon
>>96772701>I can see how this game is amazing to people who actually like the halo games and also like skirmish games.The main concern I'd have is that Mantic have a ton of different systems and factions, and will often leave their systems (let alone factions) to languish for a year or more while they update some other faction from some other system. If you want to get into Flashpoint I hope you like all the stuff in it right now and won't get annoyed with no updates.
>>96774087>Another preview interview for Starcraft came out where they higlighted the game flow, on event stage+preorder 23rd of October, with the alternate pose zeratul (cringe as it may be for Archon)Mind linking it?
>>96774256https://www.wargamer.com/starcraft-tabletop-miniatures-game/interview
>>96774263Cool, thanks. It sounds pretty cool, I'm tempted. I hope they throw a bone to SC1 boomers and don't just use SC2 designs, but I don't have much hope on that front.>but still bit cautious since it's ArchonWhat else have they put out?
>>96774284Warzone Resurrection before the name change from Prodos (and whatever they had in their repertoire) and still apparently are shaky on goal fulfilments but maybe MS/blizz have them on a leash. Idk if they can scale the production assuming that the game catches (relatively speaking) so they'd start working on racial subfactions for unit and rules variety
>>96774324On the plus side, I feel like they're not overstretching their ambition in the same way Mantic does as mentioned earlier. It's just three factions, and within those factions it's a pretty limited range of the really iconic stuff but there's also room to expand the range if the game catches on.
What was the last game you played /awg/? I tried playing Xenos rampant with my son today, unfortunately his patience ran out after turn three, when more action started to happen, I suppose setting up the terrain and looking at the miniatures is still more exciting for him than measuring and rolling dice. I also need to buy some brown tablecloth for a better "table".
>>96774409Is your son like 5yo?
>>96774431Yeah, he'll be 6 next week. Can't expect him to play a full game of course, but he's expressed interest in my miniatures and often asks to play with them.
>>96773462Have you even read his letters to C.S. Lewis? They would have been big booty Asians.>>96774409I played Bolt Action with my son last week, it was actually kind of interesting. He had better units but I had more dice in the bag and I won with a single officer left. Even just pushing guys around and making shooty noises is a good gateway drug, if you can keep pushing it without being an overbearing dick then you've (literally)made a lifetime opponent.
>>96771204>>96771217Warhost Dwarves and ElvesRagnarok Miniatures Orcs and Trolls Some Romano Britons from Victrix That would make the coolest and most Tolkien accurate LOTR armies in my opinion.
>>96774191>updatesHello 40kuck. >>96774409>>96774431I have played a simplified version of Heroscape with my 3.5 year old son and he absolutely loves it
>>96774324Archon never really was prodos. It was the production unit of Prodos, but not the actual company who did the marketing and everything else. Do your research Anon
Anyone have the Warhost PDF?
>>96774409I play with my 5yo as well, we use the Forbidden Psalm rules so it's quick and simple games. Sometimes he helps me out making terrain, like the pine cones and more serious stuff.
>>96773655Welsh.
>>96774765I really like hte idea of growing my own group to wargam in peace.
>>96774974>growing my own *cult* to wargam in peace
>>96775252Poteato potato. As long as I can play with my plastic crack with a captive via blood ties I'm happy.
>>96775328>plasticYou can't build a proper cult on plastic, silly! You need metal for that.
What are the best non-coomer elf miniatures
>>96775504tl;dr there are no good elf miniatures.See https://community.the-ninth-age.com/lexicon/lexicon/1026-fantasy-battles-miniature-library/ In plastic at best you get Oathmark ones.Individual models in metal / resin ? Dark Sword probably, as always. Other GOOD sculptors too like Ścibor.
>>96775504Oathmark or GW I guess. Elves occupy a strange niche. Extremely popular but with very few full sets in plastic.
>>96775741There are also Gamezone restic elves.Though they are restic and the weapons are a bit too heroically scaled for my taste their poses are great and they form a nice looking units.
>>96775504>non-coomerJust use historical kits and paint them a different scheme. They have helmets so you don't see the pointy ears, meaning it's now all about the colors and symbols.
>>96776069They have nothing elf-like in them. And you're suggesting they're the best. Have some standards, for goodness sake. I know faux-grogs play with literal pieces of shit and pretend it's good simply because it's cheap, but you don't have to stoop to that level.
>>96776119Meanwhile all elf figures from any manufacturer ever are just "human body and armor but maybe we show their ears. Or are Mantic.
>>96775504What about the Warcrow elves?
>>96775504R/awg/rogs will hate me, but it's Eldar heads on literally any body. Or pic related
>>96775504It's already been answered ITT by this guy and OP>>96774530The Warhost ones are elite. Oathmark ones are incredibly generic and mid, but they're relatively cheap and "they work."
>>96776365The entire line is very mid.
>>96776365Oathmark elves are in a weird place than they are too fantasy to work for something else, while looking to borig for being elves.
>>96776303I don't think many would actually argue about the Ret elves. They are pretty kino, even for people that hate Warmachine.
>>96775504Previously mentioned Warp Miniatures have kind of like "soft coom" elf line. As in you can call the coomer miniatures if you are into pretty basic boobplate.Otherwise they are pretty decent. Though the line itself is a small one - spears, bows, cavalry, commander and some sphinx-cow monster.
>>967755043D prints and Warhammer flavored, but Highlands Miniatures has a bunch.
>>96776718>nothing sexualised>only the bare minimum to indicate that these are women and not skinny guys>soft coomHas puritanism gone too far?
>>96776955If its female someone will coom to it.
>>96776261I think absolutely no anon here will ever recommend a Warcrow product out of the blue even if the game was to survive for a decade because of the absurd price policy.
>>96777040That doesn't make everything softcore porn you retard. Turn off the computer and go outside.
>>96777040A guy once coomed to his kitchen tiles. Does that make kitchen coomer core now?
>>96777146Die Fliesen, tile, is feminine in german, yes.
>>96777078Seriously, what the fuck were they thinking ?
>>96777078I would have recommended them otherwise, but I knew the recident schizos would have an aneurysm. QED
>>96776185Actually the platonicaly perfect elf. Too clever by half designs just make them look like ren fair cosplayers. No paulrons, no leather masks. >>96776718You might just be a coomer.
>>96777264It's quite the premium for Siocast.
>>96777226I think they got away with it for too long with Infinity. They don't understand (yet) that they stroke gold with this game, so they expect us to willingly throw ourselves captives of their pricing policy for a game with not much audience.
>>96777146Yes. Women are thus forbidden.
>>96776718>underhand instead of overhandSo close!
>>96775504https://www.battlezone-miniatures.co.uk/shop/category/2316https://forlornhopegames.co.uk/products/0572-wood-elf-x3
I hate when elves have weapons which look worse than IRL weapons. I can't think of any reason and elf works use a less practical/effective weapon than a human, when the are smarter than humans in every single setting
If you could only play for the rest of your life,>one scifi battle game >one fantasy battle game >one small warband skirmish game (Mordheim, Stargrave)What would they be?
>>96778411I can pick any obscure game and somebody will be forced to play it?
I want to start a rebel army for Grimdark Future, any recommendations on cheaper plastic minis that are a good price per-miniature basis? I was thinking Les Grognards, Raumjager or GCPS from Mantic but I am open to recommendations and suggestions. Plastic is preferred, but resin works if cheap enough.
>>96778439Yes
>>96778452Look at getting a set of stargrave stuff for kitbashing maybe? I don't know how rag tag you want them to look but stargrave scavengers would be what I would personally choose.
>>96776718Are these elves sold in plastic or am I doomed having to try to order it from some slavs 3d printer shack?
Working on some Turnip28 stuff
>>96778625
>>96778625I have that same exact palette.....Looks good even though I dont much care for the turnip28 style.
>>96774530Oathmark Orcs and Goblin ranges and the Goblin Warband from WGA remind me of a lot of the old art, the Goblin Warband being a dead ringer for some of Angus McBride's art.
>>96778961Yeah I like the 10mm orcs from WGA, it's a shame most of their 10mm lines have been absolute.shit so far with ridiculously bad quality control. The skellies are cool though
>>96779153I meant their 28mm scale Goblin Warband, but they're both based off the same aesthetic.
>>96779182Oh yeah I do like the Angus McBride style, even if it's shameless plagiarism. I hate that they made them all have that stupid wide squat pose because they were too lazy to make separate infantry and mounted sculpts
>>96778637Happens to many turnips of a certain age, sadly
>>96778452Stargrave has a decent selection of genericish kits with a lot of bits and options. Maelstrom's Edge has a nice scavenger type kit as well. Used to be cheaper but still a nice kit with lots of parts and iirc a bit unusual because it has a lot of extra legs compared to torsos. EM4 has a bunch of cheap as chips plastic doods, they're okay looking or even good if you want a specific retro vibe. Tehnolog Robogear is a weird 90s chunky russian warhammer knockoff with a lot of neat stuff too.
Oathmark Heavy Human Infantry sprue.
>>96779725And some of their new ogre sculpts.
>>96779729The old heavy cav/inf maquette from 57 years ago.
>>96779725On one hand this is perfect and exactly what I want.On another the shields suck and the kit competes with Victrix Foot Knights, Fireforge historicals etc. >>96779729Its all ogre.
>>96778557>>96779659Thank you, Anons. Stargrave troopers and scavengers look good, however I feel like I might enjoy a more regular looking army with mostly identical gear instead. I will keep looking for now.
>>96779741>On another the shields suckWGA sells 63 round shields in a box, Victrix also has several shield packs usually 48 to a box (56 for their heater shields but they're in 2 sizes), both in hard plastic. Fireforge also sells a bunch is smaller packs, but they're resin and embossed with designs on them. Pretty easy to replace them.>>96779747Troopers do have identical gear, Mercenaries and Scavengers don't.
>>96779747I don't know about the quality but there are the WGA deathfields sets you could look at as well. Something like their Canon fodder sets or their oohra set?
>>96779747
>>96779741I dont like any of the oathmark shields besides the skeleton ones and have bought victrix shields to replace them.
>>96779771Oh for sure its a minor gripe , it just stops this kit from being 10/10. Everyone has so many spare shields after a while you can just randomly slap them on terrain like it is a viking ship.
>>96778565Warp does print on demand. Most of their stuff is like this. So either you order it from them or get STLs and go to vodka guys. Look at what will be cheaper for you.
>>96779153Sadly even the skellies are a miss for me, them being all bones but still sporting the very same helmet. At this size and distance it had to be a skull for instant identification.That plus switching from a one and done "host" box to a unit type box so we have to buy at least three boxes (infantry, archery, cavalry) to get a thematic warband. It was uncalled for and can only be explained by greed and anti-consumer policy.It will forever live as a dramatic waste for me: the orc host is damn near perfect, but sadly I have nothing to oppose them to. The second and last host offer is the dwarves and they use tambourine for shield. Like, bro, someone should be fired for letting that shit slide through quality control.
>>96779800Oh fugg. You made me realize one could absolutely swap the human and undead shields if you or some friends were to buy those two specific kits. The human shields are squary and embossed, really evocative of the early Bronze Age. The undead on the other hand have round shield, the Revenant even having kind of Celtic circle motif on them. It makes total sense to swap their shields.I might have found myself my Christmas present.
>>96779725Lovely helmets and for all models! Shields can be easily replaced and as many others pointed out, victrix and wga sell separate sprues of them.
I really like Oathmark plastics, it is a great shame I don't really have it in me to start another 28mm mass battle scale system. I already have enough on my plate, and with minis this big I only really allow myself skirmish/warband size armies things if at all.
>>96780027A single box of 30 regular (not light or heavy) infantry is all you need for the minimum size game of 550pts, if that makes any difference. That gets you 29 soldiers and a captain.
>>96779725>>96779734>not a single head with the cool helmet designs from the maquetteThat's disappointing. The helmet is the best thing about the model.
>>96780027I bought the metal gobbos (1st gen) and built ~15 dudes to make Frostgrave warband. You don't have to go to mass battle scale system.I bought the dwarf characters just to paint. I'll put them to my random assortment of DnD figures.
>>96780061To be fair I think that maquette was specifically for heavy cavalry, so they might be saving that for their heavy cav box set whenever that comes out.
>>96780074Yep its dismounted heavy cavalryman.
>>96780068Yeah the dorf lords are pretty good.
>>96779725Very nice, enough helmets with faceplate for everyone.
>>96775504I like the OPR Wood Elves
>>96777078I'm actually the guy you responded to but only have a passing familiarity with CB business practices, what do you mean by 'price policy'? They're too expensive?
>>96778452Old ass Cadians
>>96780196>shit pic
>>96778452If you can wait a bit longer, WGAs "Damned" are probably exactly what you want?
Maybe oathmark elves with victrix hoplite heads (sold separately) could work?
>>96780350more like the other way around, to create Gondolin era phalanx.
>>96780396>the elves described as wearing ring maille and wielding tall spears "like a forest" at Dagor Nirnaeth Arnoediad>linothorax
