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MYAH.. How are your collage entries coming along anons? Anyone wants /yourdudes/ to be the helmet on mine? Post models.
Let Chaos i dols take this thread!
>>96771832Let Space Wolves take this thread!
This is now a Space Marine thread.
>TQCatachans but only cuz the eavy metal team painted them like shit eons ago and refuses to repaint them to make them look even slightly better
>>96771848Oh and I hate the Rogal Dorn tank, looks like shit. They should’ve made a plastic Macharius if the Malcador was to be forever consigned to Heresy
>>96771790>>96771862
>>96771808Crisis suits. What a joke. Instead of bothering to balance THE Tau unit James just decides to limit their wargear into a couple cookie-cutter outfits.
>>96771808Tomb blades. I hate those stupid little hamster wheels with their faces glued to the front orb line they're inhaling from a damn smelloscope. Maybe I'll try thinking of a way to convert some into looking less dopey one day.
>>96771877but what about their models?
>>96771835the smell of wet dog is insufferable
>>96771877yes, 10th edition is shit, especially when it comes to customization. nothing new.
You're doing so well then you fuck up in the last stretch
>>96771901Thin some nuln and put it over the eyes very carefully. It can't fix the cross eyes but it will make them less googly
>TQI just bought and painted 2 mutalith warp beasts for my thousand sons and goddam are these models big and annoying. I am also not thrilled with how they stick out beside the rest of the army. The other 95% of my army fits the same scheme and although they look nice they don't fitAlso catachan refresh when? Fuck krieg give me back straken
>>96771827Reposed the arms a bit and moved to sculpting. Very much a wip pic, the blobs on the leg will become a spine and a rib cage, and need to sculpt the flames on the sword.
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>>96771827I finished mine just earlier, super excited with it. You gonna freehand those skulls on the axe that you posted the other time or not enough space?
>>96771808>TQthe monopose nature sickens me in all factions
>>96771938Next time. I figured the bloody axe would harmonize better with the heads on his hand, keep everything more on theme. Sometimes less is more.
>>96771808Should I wait for next year when they officially reveal the new Chaos AdMech faction or should I kitbash regular AdMech?
>>96771990is why chaos in 40k so boring?everything is "X, but chaos" and if it doesnt exist already people beg for GW to realease it.
>TQElectro-priests. Nothing says transhumanist tech cult like a bunch of bare-chested men
TQ>What models of your faction disappoint you the most?I still love them but coming from CSM, DG and Emp kids Im honestly surprised by how little I can mix and match their weapons and arms.All Berzerkers are right hand pistol and left hand weapon. Compared to Infractors and Plague marines where I could make them go dual weild pistols, bolters or melee weapons just for the sake of it. I literally cant make the iconic dual wield Zerker wtfThey are oddly clunky. The Eviscerator axe and eviscerator sword can only be used by one specific body respectivelyA lot of their pistols and weapons looks very weird and off if you dont build them as how the instructions want you to. Building 30 of these guys Im forced to repeat the same exact poses with the same exact weapons.They come with Transfer sheets but all their right Pauldrons already have markings on them, making them only useful for the vehicles that they barely have in the codex.Compare this to the Eightbound who can be built with out armor, without pauldrons and have a ton of potential mix and matching between their weapons. I have a single unit 8bound all using just the Chain Glaives since all their body types are poseable with it
>>96772006YOure supposed to paint them blue
>>96772006>wasting precious electricity on bionicsngmi
>a whole faction whose lore is entirely about aliens raping and impregnating people and then forcing them and their children to be part of a sex cult, kill other people and finally kill themselveshow the fuck did GW get away with this without people online throwing a fit? do most 40k fans just not know this lore?
When can we expect the end of edition narrative to start and end?When can we expect 11th Edition reveals?
>>96772010>The Eviscerator axe and eviscerator sword can only be used by one specific body respectivelyfalse
>>96772023Most "people" think they are le based communists fighting for social justice.
>>96772023nobody plays GSC, that's how
>>96772023Im more surprised they go away with HAMAS the factionGot the whole tunnels and satchel bombs and shit
>>96771827Almost done with my flayed onestried feathering out some speedpaint to make the skin look inflamed near the edges but botched it pretty bad in some spots
>>96772024>end of edition narrativeworst thing to happen to the game since the removal of templates
>>96771953Fair, for a moment last night while laying in bed I had the psychotic idea to try freehanding fishscale on my tyranid's tail. I decided not to do that and just stick to the bioluminescence instead.
>>96772046I'm in it for the new models.
>>96772027Really, I found it very clunky when trying to put them on the other bodiesI only built 12 out of the 30 for now so thats good
>>96772067I grabbed 10 when they first released then the old combat patrol, built all 30 with zero repeating sets of weapons and heads and bodies and packs just by sorting them by body then making sure bits weren't being repeated across poses, have another 20 from another combat patrol I got for a huge discount that I'm confident I could easily keep from seeing anything close to a repeat
>>96772028>the faction with some communist elements is literally the faction of mind controlled bugmen and rapist aliens who herald in the destruction of the world
>>96772041That gore looks stellar, what paints did you use?
>decalnazi finally went to sleepHe spent the whole fucking day shitposting. He's clearly a neet taking advantage of his aging parents.
>>96771827I drew a blank about picking models to paint so I started by painting som infestation nodes (I think they're called that) as pumpkins to get inspired. That didn't help me though so I just picked the "spookiest" metal minis I had. In this case an obliterator and a chaos spawn. Not really happy with any of them.So not unlike a C-student I call it done and hope for a passing grade.I present: Harvest time and warp-chills.
>>96772102oh lmao
>>96771827the stuff I ordered for my entry has finally shipped today, so maybe if I really rush it I can finish in time.>I put the order in on the 3rd
>>96772023its impregnation through the mouth so its more palatable
>>96772023never got the appeal of GSC, why not just collect Tyranids
>>96771827I've been doing army painting, but I want to try and speed paint the model I had picked out, probably next weekend. Normally I paint very slowly so it might be a decent learning experience to force some speed.
>>96772259>tyranidsboring, generic, no personality>GSCplucky, inventive, easy to get creative with
>>96771827Reposting the last thing I finished.I have sharkboy on the desk ready to paint for spooky month but I just keep putting it off because I'm not sure on colours
>>96772212Order from TT?
I'm still pissed about the terminus decree
Would Slaanesh approve of Elf rape?
>>96772350Slaanesh was created by, is sustained by, and is endlessly comitting the act of elf rape anon
>>96772291yeah, some cheap stuff I'm gonna cobble together into a creepy h'ween bash. never taken this long before but maybe they've slowed down?
>>96772396My last one also took longer than usual, I hope it's just a temporary blip.Normally it's out the next day and my last one took a week (ordered on the 5th)
>>96772350Is it like human on elf rape or elf on human rape?
>>96772023It's 40k man, that's not even that bad for the setting.
>>96771837Part of this comes from the fact that for the wider playerbase Ork shooting is supposed to be a joke and they throw a shitfit every time an Ork shoots and it actually does something besides put some dice on the table for fun. For most 40k players there is only one way Orks can play and win the game: advance through the board turn 1, get points, get some kills and then proceed to get rinsed but win because you got enough points on objectives (or lose because you didn't).We had two great detachments for different playstyles in More Dakka and Taktikal Brigade but the players basically demanded GW shitcan them because in the former dedicated shooting units were actually *gasp* shooting and dealing damage and Taktikal captured the Blood Axes' smarter, more measured way of fighting in a great manner and once again it had to be nerfed into uselessness because Orks are Goff Pressure until the end of time and anything else is not allowed.And yes, both detachments were overpowered, but so was Gladius. The difference is that Gladius is still a great detachment and those two are now unplayable.Basically what I want to say is that Orks are cursed with being flanderized so they can only ever be played one way.
with this being finished im done painting all my ultramarine vehicles! now all that remains is infantryProud of how this one turned out :)
>>96771827probably not going to make a collage entry unless people really want to see an incubus painted up
>>96772259Closest you're going to get to a tribal faction in the game.>>96772266>boring, generic, no personalityBut enough about space marines
>>96772505this is unironically bad
>>96772006Achievable natty?
>>96772006They are worshiping the motive force, it's fairly fitting
>>96772023>raping and impregnating peopleDon't they just jab people with actual needles? I recall one cult infiltrating a medical factory and putting infecting dna in some of the supplies.
>>96772505Can I recommend painting the lenses on the front in some bright colours?
>>96772547Why the long face, buddy?
I promised some anon to post a wip yesterday but I forgot, sorry.
Does the imperium at large know about spirit stones or would a general make a trophy necklace out of them and only find out they're a bit more important than that if he ever crossed paths with an ordo xenos inquisitor?
>>96772557You knucklehead.
>>96772569>Does the imperium at large knowOf course not. They're kept in the dark about everything. Why would the Imperium let the knowledge of a functional form of immorality exists in the hands of xenos?
>>96772558Well I woke up and now I see it.Nice work so far anon
>>96772547>why don't they do The Thing?Probably because 40K is a bunch of Sci-Fi tropes strung loosely together where on one world they simply take control of the water purifiers and infect an entire hive in one week to create the setup for an ultramarine book whilst on another world that'd never work because the imperium is backwards don't-yew-know and so healthcare isn't real so there are no covid shipments to sabotage and everyone's too conservative to believe in kissing before marriage so it takes a while and so aren't too hard for an inquisitor in her own book the bossgirl to death
I’m not really a fan of how chaos is treated, or accepted in 40K.
>>96772569Does the knowledge make them more productive? No? Then they don't need to know.
>>96772569Grey Knights at the very least know about them for sure. I'd imagine xenos specialists like Ordo Xenos and the Deathwatch know about them too.
>>96772023>aliens raping and impregnating peopleNah you misunderstand anon. Genestealers are castroid parasites, they hijack the reproductive system of their victims and prevent them from creating normal offspring but genestealer hybrids. While also fucking with their mind the same way parasictic wasp parasites do to catepillars.
>>96772499Tfw the only way I can play shooting orks is by inserting meks into as many infantry units as I can in Dread Mob, gambling is GLORIOUS
>>96772604I agree and would add the Ctan are also not treated right. I blame the focus on major 4, gota focus on more weird minor daemons/gods and native warp lifeforms and that would help alot.
REMOVE 4++ FROM THE FUCKING GAME THAT SHIT SHOULDN'T BE ON ANYTHING EXCEPT WARLORDS
>>96772604I liked it when they made an unaligned daemon model and made it actually canon that not being one of the big four is possible without becoming a mindless beast even by a daemon's standardsBut Vashtorr is a fuck ugly modelI imagine that has nothing to do with your problem
>>96772678The Forge of Souls, a player in the Great Game completely independent from the big four, has been a part of the fluff since forever.
>>96772678>But Vashtorr is a fuck ugly modelI like how his eyes are meant to look, in the art and fluff but never seen a paint job do it properly. The rest of the design im not a fan of. His wings are cool but the skinny naked apron look isnt right imo
>>967726892008?
>>967726962008 was seventeen years ago.
>>96772709So? If you arrived on this site later 2008 you're still a newfag. Time is relative
what does tzeentch want? personally he strikes me as a god that just wants to keep the game going for as long as possible. he doesnt want to win nor lose, or rather he wants to win while losing and vice versa. but the endtimes is pretty much proves me wrong so i dont really know what to think.
>>96772725The same as all the other gods 'want' He wants to win the the great game aganist his brother gods. The material world is always a secondary goal and distraction for the gods great endless hosts of daemons warring in the warp
>>96772709I was only asking if it was 2008 anonYou don't have to start telling me how deep into ancient history the year is :(
>>96772023>wrongly summarize the the faction like a /v/edditor>"How the fuck did GW get away with this?!"le sigh
>>96771827reposting my finished entry
>>96772742Very nice anon, never seen him with orange edge highlights. Looks good
>>96772630The C'tan were horribly written and deserved to be swept under the rug, kind of. We can now expand on them I guess, but it'd still have to come with swathes of retcons.>>96772604Daemons/Chaos Gods are (almost) impossible to fix in 40k, the damage has already been done. You'd need complete model refresh to make them separate from Fantasy daemons (including greater daemons).Remember:Design-wise, it is not that 40k and Fantasy have shared daemons. Its Fantasy daemons that have been just unceremoniously shoved into 40k without zero thought.
does anyone remember that one 40k mobile game that everyone thought was going to be 40k total war?
>>96772742Great job. Very seasonal and even works well as an actual color scheme.
>>96772744Yeah the idea was to use halloween-themed colors but I don't know how well that got across
>>96772752>Fantasy daemons that have been just unceremoniously shoved into 40k without zero thought.Nope, Chaos was very deliberately part of 40k's creation in pic related along WHFB. It's the main antagonist of the setting, and lore-wise daemons are great.But's true that GW has mishandled them in the game as a faction, and lacking more exclusive 40k minis
>>96772622As a wise man once said...
>>96772778Anon you misread that anons point, he was saying the models and their design was unceremoniously shoved into 40k. Not chaos as a part of the settings fluff
Does chaos care about tyranids eating up their souls?
>>96772816Nah, the Warp gods are probably more interested in corrupting the hivemind than anything else
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>96772670did your opponent roll hot on their saves?
>>96772670genuinely the only way for a unit to survive>increase toughness>reduce AP>things are actually beefier>add so many lethal hits and sustained hits and 5+ crits now nothing in your defensive profile matters except your invulnmasterful gambit sir
>>96772835>Cult TenebrousOh it can... kinda happen?
>/40kg/ pisses on Iron Hands>/hhg/ cums to Iron HandsThe duality of /tg/.
>>96772689Forge of Souls always just used to be "This random thing within the Warp that just shits out daemon engines at random. Why does it do it? Who fucking knows and who fucking cares, it's the Warp it's meant to be weird and unpredictable."And there was no mention Vashtorr ever, and neither was there a need for him or him to be added.
>>96771933At least Fulgrim was never up his ass about Chaos being just a tool or that it had no hold on him. He just thought that embracing it made him more awesome.
>>96772835>>96772869Can't and wont happen for the same reason they can't corrupt Gorkamorka, Sigmar, etc., except there is even less of a reason for Hivemind
>>96771844Rollan
>>96772876So what are Chaos gonna do when they have no more people with emotions in the galaxy?
>>96772900Get gated from the galaxy until people with emotions appear or something
>>96771827Defending my PhD thesis next week, scared shitless, but I did all the reading I could so I'm just browsing /tg/ now and trying to distract me.Also, I was wondering, if Iron Warriors are able to replace limbs or entire parts of their body with augmetics and they don't lose any combat effectivness, why does the imperium still bother with geneseed? Why not just go full admech and build legions of cyborg-soldiers with the capabilities of space marines?
>>96772905Because admech will not just give out high performance augmetics to random imperial laity. To them those aren't just prosthetics, they're sacred religious implements as well.
>>96772905Whats your PhD thesis about anon?>Why not just go full admech and build legions of cyborg-soldiers with the capabilities of space marines?Because thats the domain of the admech and they won't give up their monoply on space marine tier skitarii. GW just doesn't focus on this. But really The Imperium of man is actually the Empire of the Mechanicus, the Imperium itself is just the meat sheild for the tech priests who actually run the Imperium. They control (nearly) all the space ships and technology so they call the shots. I can't see any high lord overruling the fabricator general and forge worlds are the only worlds that are kind of immune to inquistor authority
>>96772778IMO you're trying to just incite some sort of flamewar instead of getting the point I am trying to make1) Daemons certainly existed first in FB and this shows with how they were just UPnP'd into 40k, they have always had next to none 40k elements and 1 plague marine with a bolter in a book doesn't count2) Their models are rigidly uniform and a lot of them are various takes on "basic daemonic troop with X or Y or riding Z", horrible 3) They are rightfully the weirdest faction in FB and I love that, but design-wise are far from it in 40k, which is one of my biggest complaints. A lot of literally-who minor xenos look & act weirder, Slaugth kind of mog everything Nurgle brings to the table and they're not in any shape even related to him. Logically, through alien psyche the Daemons should be even weirder, but Daemons in 40k are humanized and all we can do is cope "well humans are so prevalent in 40k too h-haha, Daemons are just convergently human as well" 4) different universes warrant different portfolios & approaches, Gods & Daemons being the "same" across two only reinforces the above point that its just a FB port, instead of a smooth blend of both seeping here and there. Not to mention that Big Four (whose existence is maybe a mistake in the first place) should've probably had different facets in 40k, but no, they're the same and boring look, fucking Horned Rat even tries more with its Greater Daemons5) Daemons defecting/aligning themselves with different Gods is woefully underexplored6) Undivided Daemons and Lesser Gods are woefully underexplored7) Sea of Souls fluff and what fuels daemons exactly is poorly written out. No, "technological progress" or "entropy" aren't emotions. Are they 8) Timey-wimey bullshit is written like it was made fro 5 year olds or people who thought Warlords of Draenor was some tight shit. Ew ew, horrible, GW should get a slap on the wrist whenever their hand reaches to atemporal writing(2k symbols is 2 little but w/e)
>>96772918>>96772916Biological stuff, don't wanna go more into detailAnyway, my question still kinda stands, how do iron warriors get all the augments then? If they are easily available, surely they must be superior to going through the entire geneseed process?
>>96772924NTA but realistically every daemon model should be unique, like even more so then you could make a case for guardsmen or marines. It is a limit of a tabletop wargame that daemons are fairly rigidly designed.
>>96772870>the most autistic 40k fans like the beakies who are boring and beep boop emotions are for the weak
Hypothetically if GW started publishing explicitly noncanonical stories (like elseworlds in DC or Infinities in star wars), how would you all feel?
Did some blemplars finna move onto my World Eaters pile unless the jumppack intercessors are calling this weekend
>>96772935I really dont care. So go ahead.
>>96772778>>96772924>(2k symbols is 2 little but w/e)And you know fuck that I'll continue harping for a bit moreYou also can't double sit on chairs of "teehee Daemons & Gods are truly unknowable and so-so weird!" and then give them pretty human motivations, outlooks, acts and pepper it all with various backstories about how Ku'Gath was a shitling that fell into pot. Its not like there is any ambiguity to these stories so we can't even say "oh its just a legend", you're just given these like facts basically>>96772932I think its a poor argument especially in the days of modern digital sculpting. Even older kits like Spawn offered lots of weird and unconventional bits & ways of assembly.But I can see how its a problem of FB and its rank-and-file gaming, which Daemons honestly shouldn't fit into. I am not even strictly saying that each daemon should be *completely* unique, but they sure are too uniform even across different units. Most of Slaanesh daemon range is just barbie-with-hat situation.
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>>96772935Are you talking about 40k crossovers with those universes or just straight up them dipping into publishing for other IPs?First is rancid, second is wasted resources.
>>96772945>in the days of modern digital sculpting.its more about spure space and the investment, like giving so much sprue up for something that doesn't really matter is kind of silly. Like we could also say every marine should be unique (there actually is a white dwarf about that from when plastic tacticals came out) with an aquilla on their chest that reflects their parent legion at the very least.
>>96772951Neither, just stories that aren't canon and explicitly exist in self-contained versions of 40k, fantasy, Blood Bowl etc. Like someone might write what the armor of fate failing to save guilliman would be like.
>>96772864It's the exact same thing that happened in 9th with the Codex creep, except they didn't go to the next step of adding ignores invuln abilities everywhere besides devastating wounds.
>>96772945I agree anon Daemons are the most mistreated faction in 40k
>>96772955NTA but I think what GW should do is make an internal (or fuck it publish it in WD) hierarchy of lethality vs survivability with the hard caps of what the game will accommodate. Not SvT but rather how armor is worse than an invul etc etc
>>96772953>like giving so much sprue up for something that doesn't really matter is kind of silly.You wouldn't really need to.Look at Malstrain Genestealers, they really sell "shuddering irradiated alien cockroach" vibe with their contorted poses.Look at Nighthaunt, they really sell themselves being ghosts with negative space blanket look.I don't believe those take much more sprue space than Daemon kits.What do Daemons do to contribute to themselves being quasi-real, shifting monsters? Nothing. Even C'tan have freaky pixel shit going on for them, Daemons just fall flat in that regard, not counting their looks being too uniformed. Why are Death Guard elites more varied in looks than Nurgle Daemon elites? Its just kinda ass.
>>96772935But they already do anonIf it's not a model, it's not canonIn fact with the casualty rate of eldar on tabletop, their inability to reproduce isn't canon
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>>96772954>>96772947>>96772943I feel like people would beg GW to make them demi-canon through classic "haha Warp doesn't make sense" and it'd hurt the setting even further.The less Multiverse bullshit we have, the better. So fuck that.
>>96772962the two armies you listed are a decade and change newer than the daemon models which were done for that joint 4e codex 7e army book release (because chaos was and is the same)
>>96772968>The less Multiverse bullshit we have, the better. So fuck that.Isn't there already tons of it, like the eldar looking into possible worlds via foresight
>>96772968I largely do not care for the setting of 40K, if there are good individual stories to be told then yippie. But as I mentioned before, I’m largely apathetic to it.
>>96772976There is timeline fuckery yeah and they’re all ass so people forget it. Most of that fuckery of course includes thousand sons btw.
>>96772955Yeah it's just something that will always happen because to keep the codex hype cycle going codices need to be slightly stronger every time.In 9e the big problem was ignoring invulns, I'd say in this edition the big problem is how common and easy to get lethal hits are.
>>96772984isn't there a fuck ton of multiversal stuff for chaos too
>>96772985I think some things should ignore invulns, like the emperor's sword or drachnyen
>>96771827That model is way too busy.
>>96772976Foresight is fine, pulling shit from AUs isnt>>96772987Only a bit, thankfully
>>96773028whats actually wrong with multiversal stuff exactly?
>>96773042Requires writing talent to pull off well. The one that GW lacksExamples: Sunless Sea/Fallen London, Cultist SimulatorI wanna say Planescape but 1) its not really multiversal and 2) its not that great eitherIn short, alluding to and introducing multiversal stuff can be done right but it has to be layered under lots and lots of layers of obfuscation and mystery, in a kind of "people in-universe acknowledge some inherent weirdness, wrongness and inconsistencies" rather than what various authors commonly do with "what if labubu was infected by a facehugger?!" kinda stuff
I don’t even think multiverse stuff would stand out for 40K for better or worse.
>>96772900Same thing that happened when End Times killed most of sentient life for milenias. Disappear from the material world until new souls capable of emotions they represent appear again in big enough numbers.
>>96773068its explained that after the end times archaon conqueored other universes for chaos before arriving at the cosmos arcane
>>96773055from what I can tell theres been multiversal stuff since adeptus titanicus 1e
>>967730861) its a short blurb and not a plotpoint. Passable, doesn't really bother me2) it being old doesn't mean its by any means good
>>96773082We're talking about the galaxy. What specifically Chaos is doing somewhere else is irrelevant, only the general mechanics of how it works are important.Archaon is a """"""mortal"""""", so it makes him an even weirder case, since as long as a Warp shits him out somewhere he can function there (his powers are the real question), but demons are Warp based and thus tied to vibes of the place they're in
Dunno how to feel about tcg being cheaper than warhammer now.
>>96773095Theres something like seven quotes that win lose or draw chaos will just move on to another universe
> it being old doesn't mean its by any means goodI have a policy that I don't discuss quality here, because everything is shit. None the less it is an established part of the mythos
>>96773097Warhammer is absolutely cheaper than playing non-EDH MtG, just through $-per-hour-of-fun, assuming you're a hobbyist and not a tourney player. It's dozens magnitudes cheaper if you factor in 3rd party/recasts/etc.The initial entry can be bit steep due to supplies but supplies are eternal and there are a lot of eternal, unsquattable units that are core to 40k aesthetic as well. Not at all comparable to TCG with rotating formats.
>>96772924>>96772945Gods and daemons being shared between 40k and fantasy is fine. Their whole point is to be the primordial expressions of the base psyche of races. But they need to conform to the limitations of utimately being a miniature range. So they lack the variety of their fluff just like IG are mostly palette swapped Cadians. It's better in AoS, were they have been allowed to get more minis, but in 40k they compete for attention with CSM, the actual main baddies. So they've never been properly handled in the game.Other than that, you being upset about their design and being limited to main 4 gods is a (you) problem.
>>96773106I'm not saying they won't. But the question is what happens in this univers, this specific material relam Chaos is invading and where all the humans die off.They can move on, but they can't do shit here
>>96772935I don't care about canon in general. This isn't a warhammer exclusive sentiment.
>>96773097>buy plastic crack>half the models are black sculpted>buy cards for soi boys>half the cards are just black menWhat have we got to fight over?
>>967731224e core rulebook explained that if the emperor were to die there "will be no time no space only chaos"
>>96773136Well yeh, Chaos wins if he's not around and likely drags everything into the Warp where shit like time doens't function
>>96773112>warhammer is cheaper>It's dozens magnitudes cheaper if you factor in 3rd party/recasts/etcThen anything is cheaper than anything, smart guy.
>>96773115>Their whole point is to be the primordial expressions of the base psyche of racesShame they barely express that, especially in art direction save for rare few gems>about their design and being limited to main 4 gods is a (you) problemI feel like you're being needlessly deflecting in a broad strokes way without addressing any of the points explicitly
>>96773132Do people really only exclusively play mtg? Not even digimon? pokemon? yugioh?
>>96773146Takes a lot of money and time to dedicate yourself to even one of those at a competitive level. Which beggars the question why you would choose to become something like a competitive Lorcana player to begin with.
>>96773140Not really, 40k only has a stigma against proxies/3rd party in official GW stores and even then you can get away with a lot of things flying under the radar. Case in point: one anon from this thread got his army featured in fucking Warhammer World for a month, with a 3rd party Artel W miniature as a warlord, for a whole fucking month, until it was noticed.Meanwhile in MtG there is a fairly strong anti-proxy movement pushed by whales, because that hobby isn't about creatively assembling and painting your toys, its about mechanics and legitimacy of the stuff you bought.Curiously, there is a similar sentiment to 40k in China which is a little known fact, they really don't like recasts or proxies there, but thankfully its an oddball phenomenon.
>>96773140I mean his core point is still mostly correct. If you spend $200 in MTG cards you can do exactly one thing with them: put them in a sleeve, and play with them.If you spend $200 in 40k miniatures you have to assemble them, optionally kitbash stuff, then paint them, then base them, and then you can also play with them.That's simply a lot more hours of enjoyment, of course assuming you actually enjoy hobbying. But if you don't enjoy hobbying then it costs you a one time expenditure of $20 and you can play all Warhammer armies as much as you want forever.
>>96773146>even digimon?That shit has a card game?>pokemon?Some do, but it's way heavier on collectors than actual players>yugioh?Only black people play Yugioh
>>96773146Depends on your race unironically. Pokemon is played by kids and asians, yugioh by blacks and asians and mtg is played by whites. Digimon is probably played by asians but it's too small of a game to matter outside of asia.
>>96773153$200 in 40k is maybe a combat patrol and some paints and the tools to assemble them. kitbashing I dont really see that happening there that early.
>>96771827My last model Skipping this collage
>>96773160I'm not very knowledgeable on MTG prices right now but afaik $200 doesn't even get you a meta deck, right? Unless you go for the super budget ones.I mean, this hobby is expensive as balls, nobody is going to deny that. But I'd say it's still more creative and enjoyable than buying cards to play with them.The paints and tools you buy for your combat patrol will 100% last you for newer things you get, too.
>>96773152What stops me from printing MtG cards? What stops me from buying old decrepit MtG cards?>>96773153This whole point hinges on cards only being used for one single purpose, this speaks more about your narrow view of cards than anything.
>>96771827What was the collage theme again? I've been pretty offline lately.
>>96773097I mean, Warhammer is more expensive to get to 2k but it's way cheaper long-term. You get models and you can use them for 20 years, with TCG shit constantly rotates in and out.Still, GW prices are fucking retarded and they're inreasingly forcing people (mostly SMfags atm) to keep buying new models.
>>96773174Spooky
>>96773173What else can you use cards for? It's a piece of cardstock with an illustration in it. You can collect them and you can play with them, that's about it.
>>96773180>with TCG shit constantly rotates in and out.40k models don't rotate in and out? Isn't that the whole point of legends?
>>96773173>What stops me from printing MtG cards?Nothing but as I outlined there will be a plenty of people who wouldn't like that. Again, anti-proxy sentiment is far more prevalent in MtG whereas its basically non-existent in Warhammer bar official GW store managers. Noone will care here. Plenty of MtG whales will complain if you pull out a proxied Chains of Mephistopheles (700-1000$) or some other card, even a 100$ one.So yes, it creates a different barrier of entry unless you're playing kitchen magic at which point you might just play TTS for both MtG and 40k.
>>96773189not only that but you're not gonna want to keep playing the same list for 5 games in. Stillmania is a meme in the current warhammer environment.
>>96772942looks like an ai image.
>>96773189NTA but they rotate at a far more glacial pace and there are plenty of iconic evergreen models that owe their existence to iconic 40k units.You know, your termagants, necron warriors, ork boyz, genestealers, nurglings. Those datasheets are basically unsquattable and there will always be models for those, sooner or later. And you can use those older models as proxies for newer ones, hell you don't even have to really rebase them.Meanwhile you WILL get odd looks for trying to proxy your Forest as Gaea's Cradle.It's hardly comparable in practice.
>>96773188What else can you use miniatures for? It' a painted piece of plastic? You can collect them and you can play with them, that's about it.Not trying to be a cunt but there are a fuckton of other aspects to cards and I'm not even a cardfag: like simply the trading/value thing: we don't go around trading miniatures to get the right krieg grenadier or eldar scorpion.
>>96773201>What else can you use miniatures for?He already told you, its the process of crafting them yourself and painting them. That's what you use the unassembled kits for. The hobbying and personalization is part of the payoff, ideally speaking. Whether you like it or not, its an artistic hobby -which varies from person to person - but still. MtG is not an artistic hobby.
>>96773180>way cheaper long-term.>You get models and you can use them for 20 years, with TCG shit constantly rotates in and out.That's not even true anymore though. For either franchise Warhammer is working really hard to make old models obsolete and MTG has been largely overtaken by eternal format like commander.
>>96773192>Stillmania is a meme in the current warhammer environment.Social skill issue.
>>96773189Sure, but it's nowhere near as bad as tcgs.Cards from 5 years ago are just waste paper unless they're super tops, they want you to pay for pack filler that's completely worthless etc.Meanwhile almost all the eldar units that I got ~15 years ago are playable and relevant in the game.
>>96773208>MtG is not an artistic hobbyI'm sure there are people pimping out their cards/decks/cases.I think this is just an issue of not knowing much about card games outside of the surface level.
>>96773213>I'm sure there are people pimping out their cards/decks/cases.I apologize but I think people who draw their own art for their own proxies are an infinitesimal portion of MtG players and I don't consider people from mtg threads on here ordering AIslop proxies to be "artistic", sorry.
>>96772924>me when i fart on my asian boy princess
>>96773201What I told you. You don't even have to play the game and in fact many people are just in it for the hobbying aspect and have never rolled a die.You keep telling me there are other aspects to cards and you can't name them, except the elephant in the room: you can trade and speculate with cards, which is by far one of the most cancerous parts about that hobby, that secondary market created by the artificial scarcity of cards and something I'm extremely happy warhammer doesn't have.So you can play with them and you can speculate with them to make money.
>>96773209I played mtg before it was a thing but Commander was created by the community, wasn't it?It wasn't the way WotC intends for their audience to engage with their product. They embraced it and they're making money off it by constantly releasing new decks specifically designed for EDH with alternate arts for sol rings etc and they're still selling crazy well.
>>96773221I'm not a card fag, what I'm saying is that it's reductive and uninformed.If you were a big card fag who had decades of experience in that space then maybe I'd believe when you say "there's nothing much you can do with cards".Beside most people who collect barely touch the artistic+hobby side.
>>96773208>artisticMaybe it's just me but I think hobbying is more akin to a craft than art until the very highest level
>>96773217Sadly this is true.I alter my own cards and I know nobody else that does at my two locals.
>>96773246>painting isnt artistic actually
>>96773238I mean what else can you do with a piece of paper with an illustration in it? You can't name anything, I can't name anything, i don't think we need a guy with 30 years of experience playing magic to find out. There just isn't much, it's mainly a hobby about consumption and the main draw is the appeal of buying packs and getting rare cards, and then there's a competitive ruleset you can play with it.>Beside most people who collect barely touch the artistic+hobby side.I mean this is plainly false. There are lots of people with massive backlogs sure but the average person that has some warhammer minis has at some point painted and assembled some of their miniatures, if not they'd simply sell it off (which many do once they realize the time involvement required).
What Buffs did they give to Mechanicus that turned them from just barely better than Imperial Agents to 58% winrate?
>>96773256>I mean this is plainly false. There are lots of people with massive backlogs sure but the average person that has some warhammer minis has at some point painted and assembled some of their miniatures, if not they'd simply sell it off (which many do once they realize the time involvement required).
>>96773254Slathering some pigment on a plastic piece isn't art.
>>96773263They were an extremely cheap army with incredible mission play balanced by not being able to kill anything.Now they're able to kill stuff because one of their leaders was given the space marine army rule.
>>96773263>winratesI don't care
>>96773254I mean we're not painting lancscapes or portraits, it's essentially coloring a 3d object. Not trying to belittle it or anything, I just think it's more about skill than creativity which makes it more of a craft in my opinion.
>>96773269>>96773246I mean as long as art is done earnestly, art is art.A 5yo's macaroni picture made on Mother's Day is art.Miniature conversion & painting is far from high art but it is artistic. I understand having a personal barrier against calling it as such, I have one myself, but looking at it objectively I think it is.
>>96773263Well, first of all admech was never bad (after the first 6 month of their coded anyway). They have incredible secondary play and very cheap efficient units for trading with tons of 5++ and army wide stealth that make them a bitch to remove efficiently. Just nobody wants to play an extremely boring move block style Army that doesn't actually kill anything because it is extremely taxing and exhausting and time consuming to play correctly. Not to mention it's prohibitively expensive to actually collect and build and paint. Suddenly turning Cawl into an oath of moment dispenser massively boosted the output of the army. Not to mention even more tiny buffs to their shooting on their ironstriders.
>>96773280A good scheme definitely requires artistry/creativity and anything freehanded is objectively going beyond "3D colouring book" sentiment.
>>96773160People kitbash things out of a single combat patrol all the time, if anything a beginner is more likely to kitbash stuff out of the things they have on hand rather than purchase kits explicitly for kitbashing
can scarab occult terminators not go into the chaos rhino?
>>96773319gave me a laugh
>>96773325>can terminators not go into the rhino?No(t anymore).
>>96773338You can just admit you don't know what you're talking about anon, it's okay.
I love my big red wife magnus the red
>>96773325Check your codex
>>96773343How big were termies back then?
>>96773383Smol
all they have to do to make female space marines accepted is start with one super hot lost primarch returning to reclaim her legion. once the seal is broken the snowball will roll easily down the slippery slope.
>>96773378but thats what i dont get either you cant have terminator models in there anymore which just seems wrong, or the capacity doesnt apply for terminator models so you could technically have infinite of them which also seems wrong
>>96773383Shorter than marines, but bulkier.
>>96773385Does anyone have a pic of the termies of that era next to the rhino? To see how big I need to make my scale accurate rhino
>>96773397You can't have terminators in them any more. I don't know why you need help interpreting that, it's pretty clear
>>96773400Best I could find. 2e terminators are about the size of modern Votann.
>>96773386People only want femarines to virtue signal, "own the chuds" or porn addiction, and I think that's pretty fucking sad.
>>96773400Google rogue trader space marine army
>>96773359the entire point of combat patrol is that you're not going to want to customize your units a single way. Also do pray tell, what is a world eater, or eldar combat patrol going to have that lets someone kitbash those models into something else?
>>96773412Even then they barely looked like 5 could fit in.
>>96773414which is why GW will inevitably do it
>>96773414I don't know why people need female space marines in the fluff to feed their porn addiction. We've had plenty of 40k porn about things that aren't canon.
>>96773423Follow the money (investors and shareholders listening to loud social leeches)>>96773425If there's something about addiction to know is that it's never enough and will get worse.
>>96773412How many points is this in 10th
>>96773425To a certain type of person, forcing everyone else to acknowledge and submit is the actual fetish.
>>96773410it just seemed so wrong and im a bit retarded im sorry if its annoying, i tried googling it but i couldnt really find any answers sorry.
>>96773440>If there's something about addiction to know is that it's never enough and will get worse.Oh, I know. I just don't need any of it to be canon.
>>96773417You aren't forced to play combat patrol because you bought a combat patrol, its just one of the many things you can do with a combat patrol of models. Most people buying them are using them for 40k army starters. Also a world eater or eldar player could kitbash whatever they wanted out of the parts, there's no rules to converting. It could be something really complicated and involve all sorts of other materials like plasticard, greenstuff, etc, or it could be something like putting an eight bound head on a berserker.
>>96773425This is why I find the porn addicts the most disingenuous of the bunch.
>>96773445I think there's a term for forcing sex onto others.
Why no chaos land speeder? Not evil enough?
>>96773468glue some spikes on a marine land speeder and you'll have a chaos one
>>96773468Because GW wants to differentiate factions from one another and reduce shared kits, even if in fluff there's nothing to stop it.
>>96773468Dude chaos is hard to take seriously enough as it is.
>>96773468Those HH grav speeders things look way better anyway and make more sense for them to have
>>96773484>"Fly me closer, I need to axe them something!"
>>96773468Wasn't the original explaination that land speeders were a post heresy thing?I think CSM should get most/all SM stuff because chapters can go traitors; not all chaos marines out there are vets of the long war.
>>96773499I like how the other dude just stares at him in disbelief.
>>96773473Why is one of them tipping over. That fatter one isn't even on that side of the speeder
>>96773442~1700
>>96773499>That's it, you're gonna fucking get it, almost fucking there>Fucking god not again you cannot be serious
>>96773505Primaris can’t turn chaos silly billy
>>96773505>a post heresy thing
>>96773520>Wasn't the original explaination [...]>The>Original
>>96773505We used to be a proper wargame.
What's the silliest retcon GW has ever tried to pull just to justify a model making sense?
>>96773534Beside the obvious "primaris marines", I'd say custodes as a whole.
>>96773534
>>96773544Primaris isn't a retcon though it's an expansion
>>96773548It's not a retcon (singular) it's retcons (plural).
>>96773544>>96773545>WE WANT THE SETTING TO MOVE FORWARD WAAAAAH>cawl invents new thing and moves the setting forward>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH NOT LIKE THAAAAT
>>96773534Primaris, GW could have just sold bigger marines like they did to the updated chaos space marines.Custards leaving the Palace which goes aganist a lot of the settings motiffs and the changes what the custodes represent in the setting.
>>96773544>>96773545>>96773548>there were always 10,000 super marines hiding underground in labs waiting to be released
>>96773534The real answer is primaris but the whole thing with the thousand sons kidnapping marines from other legions to turn them into helbrutes to explain why their dreadnoughts have all those fleshy parts is also fucking stupid.
>>96771827Repostan
>>96773555Goomba fallacy.
>>96773555I have never said the setting should move forward.
>>96773565The only thing spooky about this is your colour choices.
they should move the setting forward to warhammer 40001
I've kinda reached the point where I dont care for the setting. I just like cool guns being wielded by bigger men.
>>96773562> kidnapping marines from other legions to turn them into helbrutesShould we release a rubric dreadnought? Or even just a unit profile?Nah, retardo-lore goAlso, release the bird bots.
>>96771827I'm trying to trust the process on this one
>>96773544>>96773558I can imagine a few of them going on missions when the Emperor tells them to (like when they went and got Alicia Dominica to meet with the Emperor), but they shouldn't exist as a whole army. Not in 40k.
>>96773578>The Emperor dies, nobody knows what happened to the Sol system, lots of rumours and panic at every level of government acorss all worlds>Tech priests go mad with the possible loss of Mars>The imperium is dealt fatal wounds by the tyranids and necrons and chaos>Orks Waaghs and xeno empires like the Tau swarm in the gaps of these forces to expand>Eldar carry on like normal feeling quite smug to have outlived Humanities empire
>>96771844roll
>>96773520Does anyone have an idea if this is purely a heresy rg thing or if they've used it on 40k stuff as well? Only other place I've seen it is the resin rg contemptor
>>96773599Frankly the emperor shouldn't say anything, otherwise it defeats the point of being called a corpse-emperor."Is the fucker dead or not" is part of the fun.I'll even go as far to say that if the emperor is dead it makes the imperium more interesting.I'm an imperial fag btw.
>>96773594Looks sweet so far. Are you using that little wire as some sort of finger brace while painting? That's a clever idea. I've seen some painting handles have little braces like that but never tried one.
>>96772039>genestealers are building tunnels below the childrens hospitals goy! You need to send us more money!
does 40k actually take place in the exact year of 40000 or are they too busy waging war to keep up to date with the calendar?
>>96773607The HH RG character also has it.Nothing stops you from having those motifs on a 40k RG, but it's pretty much a HH thing: RG didn't have a lot of visual flair, being mostly RG symbols, laurels and crow remains, so they added those motifs.IIRC it's based on maori (don't quote me on that) and is supposed to be from where the RG was raised on Terra.TL;DR: it's a HH thing.
>>96773616It's way too late now without invalidating decades of fluff and completely changing how things work.
>>96773634You could play any time/era or even no specificed.There were specific dates (since some factions/wargear only appeared at certain times).It used to M40.999 iirc (year 40999), but now it's later I believe.
The Rogue Trader CRPG did a surprisingly good job at being grimdark without grimderp. Except for some ending slides. You often have to choose between "nice" or crazy dogmatic options, and if you choose the nice ones then something horrible happens a lot. You can choose to spare a planet from Exterminatus in Act 1 and if you then it becomes a daemon world. If you show mercy to mutants on your ship early in the game then it turns out they were corrupted by Nurgle. So in both cases killing them all and letting the emperor take his own was right. On the other hand the dogmatic side is pretty fucking crazy. They love to kill people for no reason or do other insane shit. Like to the level you would expect based on lore. So there is really no "good" choice.
>>96773630There's one now!
>>96773644Yep, that's why I'm writing my own stuff, the kits and older stuff (good inspiration/material to understand what makes 40k great) is all I care about now.Currently working on regiments.
>>96773635Oh I wasn't worried about whether it was from heresy for modeling reasons, I was just asking so I'd now which game to be looking up marines for to see more examples of it being done. Also>bolt revolverKino.
>>96773658Then the answer is still HH, closest 40k I can think of are people doing carcharodons with patterns.>bolt revolver
James its been almost a month, where are my updated Deathwatch Veteran rules
>>96773658>bolt revolverFulcrum hand cannon(s).
>>96773669Might just be me, but something about the joytoys hair looks so fucking weird along his hairline where it attaches to his head.
isnt joytoy a euphemism for dildo
>>96773629That's the intent, it literally just a paperclip pushed into two drilled holes that i usually use to hold separate heads for paintingAlso thank you>>96773674Hanging out with Karamazov and the monkey gang in the void.
>>96773698Not one I know of
>>96773694Noodle hair, beautiful noodle hair.Funny enough, back when I looked for more pics of that bolt revolver he has, I found out that there is a whole business of helmeted heads for the primarch figures, and since I'm a huge fag for helmets, I was pretty happy.There are many designs for each primarch, it's like discovering a whole ant colony under your floor.
>>96773703People should do more alternative colours for purity seal scripts, they look really cool in black
>>96773616>Frankly the emperor shouldn't say anything, otherwise it defeats the point of being called a corpse-emperor.And that doesn't anymore since we have had numerous moments of the Emperor getting involved or "talking"Like when he and Guilliman talked, or when Emperor quite literally revived Guilliman after Morty had used the Godblight shit on him.Emps has never been dead dead or just a mere corpse. It's like Sanguinius being "dead", that fucker has been truely dead either and he appears to the Blood Angels ever so often to give them some pep-talk and whatever.
>>96773669>>96773694Why the fuck Russ is not popular among girls? They like bat shit crazy Curze or Corax, Magnus and Sanguinius. Hell even Angron. But not the Good boy Russ. WTF?
>>96773721Oh yeah, I know a lot of people really like customizing the joytoys. There's loads of options tailored for the action figures but there's also little stopping you from scaling up 3d printed bits for miniatures and using those
>>96773644The only places that treats the Emperor as if he alive and talking is a couple BL slop books. The SoB stuff with Vandire is historical revisionism to justify the coup aganist the man ruling the Emperor. Hardly invalidating decades of fluff and completely changing how things work.
>>96773734He gives women the ick would be my guess?
>>96773733The Emperor is very much alive. Even if his physical body were to be destroyed his "soul" (if you can even call it that at this point) wouldn't dissipate in the warp. His psyche is fragmented from constantly dying and regenerating plus worship of quadrillions of humans turning him into a god that is pulled in a million different directions. One of my head canons is that the chaos gods create daemons in part because an entity like them has real problems pulling itself together. It's too multifaceted, too drawn in different directions. So splitting off bits of itself with more singular minds is effective >>96773738The emperor is currently powering the astronomicon, performing miracles, using his tarot, sending dreams to custodes, making living saints...that's not "dead" anon.
>>96773734As a general rule, girls don't think vikings are very cool. They're pretty much allergic to anything that has "LOL BEER AND WENCHES XD" as an important part of their identity.
>>96773721>MkIV style helmet on MkII style armourBut we know what Russ' helmet is suppose to look like, Ulrik has it.>a whole business of helmeted heads for the primarch figuresAny of them have Fulgrim's OG helmet?
>>96773734If he was more werewolf and less thor then chicks would dig him.>>96773737The horus one is probably my fav, I really dig the "faceless arch champion of chaos" look.
>>96773734He's lame. Out of all the primarch pretty boys he is the least interesting to me. Maybe if there were stuff about him turning into a werewolf and raping people.
>>96773734Furries are kind of gross outside of when they're executed Japanese style.
>>96773741And Curze not? Konrad look and smell like he was dead for several days. But he has a lot of fangirls. What's wrong with women?
god i hate elves
>>96773748>Anon confuses the shatted hivemind in the Warp born from the worship of a trillion trillion souls with the corpse in the jar atop a nuclear reactor that went criticalIt's two different and seperate beings sharing a name
>>96773751>mk2 style armorRuss is wearing mk4.but omegabased blanche fulgrim.
I demand Drazhar be nerfed, It is bullshit he can hack up my chaos lord with zero effort just by existing and the buffs he provides to incubi are absurd.
>>96773752>We have Archaon at home (on planet chaos)
>>96772350Not possible. Can you rape Slaanesh? No? Then you can't rape misplaced pieces of it either.
>>96773763Humans already lack a concrete self, but that's mostly semantics anyway. Whether it was born from him, created by the belief of countless humans, or something else, there is a being called The Emperor that remembers being the Emperor of Mankind and acts directly in the galaxy constantly at all times
>>96773765What buffs does he even give Incubi anymore? A 6" pile in?
>>96773738>The only places that treats the Emperor as if he alive and talking is40k rulebooks and codexes for editions and editions. He enhances the astronomican, He keeps Chaos at bay else it'd consume humanity and fuck up the galaxy, astropaths are soul-bound to him, the byproducts of his metabolism are used to make psyk-out weapons, they feed him a thousand souls a day (ones not fit to even power the astronomican), had to fix the Golden Throne at a great cost, Guilliman also spoke with the Emperor, and so forth. You'd have to retcon all of these things out of existence for him to be dead.
>>96773768Faceless evil warriors with strange names and a long list of terrifying titles > spiky bald marine
>>96773771And it is not known if that beings consciousness is a transference of the consciousness of the the corpse in a jar atop the Golden Throne, or a copy of his personaility or a unique mind who simply thinks hes someone thats hes not.
>>96773781Yeah a lot of people don't seem to realize that he is literally holding back all 4 chaos gods at all times. It's mentioned in several places to be a bit like a staring contest. The chaos gods don't get too close but surround him and they're just kind of staring at each other...menacingly
>>96773764>Russ is wearing mk4.With MkII style segmented plating, evoking the style of MkII.
>>96773786It seems implied to be an amalgam, which makes sense given his fractured psyche. It's a shattered man who is dying and being regenerated, a warp entity created by its worshippers, the soul of an ancient psychic...it's not either/or/. It's not wonder the emperor is unable to pull his mind together in a coherent way
>>967737806" pile in and +1 to wound when using a pain token. Chaos lord and even chosen don't stand a chance against that plus dev wounds from the incubi themselves.
>>96773791The segmented plate thing is just something SWs do
>>96773791Or it's just artificer mk4 and they just added ridges to it to make it look cooler.
>>96773781>He enhances the astronomicanDoes he really do that though? or is that what the Imperium beleives and the cover story of feeding a thousand psykers a day to him. When really thats that 1k deaths and the tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of other psykers being tortured by it thats actually powering it>He keeps Chaos at bay else it'd consume humanity and fuck up the galaxyThat warp portal was closed during the HH and has a sun placed in the way as I recall but I could be wrong>astropaths are soul-bound to himTo the Emperor corpse or the God Emperor Warp power?>the byproducts of his metabolism are used to make psyk-out weaponsI don't know what you're referring to here>Guilliman also spoke with the Emperor, and so forthPeople beleive Rowboat spoke to him, Guilliman could very well actually be Alpharius or Omegon in disguise after dispossing of the real gullimans body 10k years ago (look up this theory, its fun even if a bit out there)
>>96773797If you're losing a bunch of W3 models to 2 damage incubi+Drazhar, either you're very unlucky or throwing them away. Drazhar is actively worse than he was in the index and the squad is less durable than tissue paper.
>>96773801On suits of armour known for segmented plates (MkIII just has the ones at the front hidden under solid plates, but from the behind they're all segmented up).
>>96773811It's just a SW thing, I don't know what to tell you.
>>96773807>Guilliman could very well actually be Alpharius or Omegon in disguiseThat'd be unironically cool but nuGW will never go with that. It's real Guilliman and he's going to turn Imperium into heckin good guys™
>>96773803Thus give him a MkIV helmet in the style of MkII. They didn't give Helbrecht a MkX helmet for his segmented MkX suit.
>>96773820Well helbrecht is wearing MkX based on his old Mk2, so it makes sense why his MkX helmet is also based on mk2.That's why they gave mk4 russ a mk4 helmet.
>>96773810>Drazhar is actively worse than he was in the index What timeline are you in?
>>96773810Drazhar got a fair amount better. He was barely played in the index (Skysplinter). Now he is a threat solo or with a squad.
>>96773816I can't be the only one who thinks this looks shit
>>96773839The current one? He lost pain token reroll to hit +1 AP in exchange for an ability he had innately before, and his dual blade profiles lost twin linked in favour of dev wounds; on top of that, incubi are now more expensive, and suffer the same pain token fate (though with the other buffs they got come out about the same damage output in the wash). I still like him, but he's almost objectively a worse profile now.
>>96773850Yeah it's ass, it's a terrible fucking banner.
Kranon the Relentless? More like CRAPNON THE DICKLESS!
>>96773862Genuinely like how thick they areFeels good to see marines who don't have chicken legs.
>>96773758Konrad doesn't smell like anything he's not real. Are you actually retarded
>>96773862That plasma effect is so fucking good, absolute banger.
>>96773857>>96773850>>96773857What is it even representing
>>96773862It's fascinating to me that GW briefly played with making a literal who warband the face of chaos for a little while
>>96773885The twin headed imperial eagle
>>96773807>Does he really do that though?Yes, it's stated many times as objective fact, not Imperial propaganda.>When really that's that 1k deaths and the tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of other psykers being tortured by it that's actually powering itThe psychic choir is different from the psykers fed directly to the Emperor. As I said, ones not worthy of even joining the Choir are fed to the Emperor. This is stated in the rulebooks.>That warp portal was closed during the HH and has a sun placed in the way as I recall but I could be wrongI'm not even talking about the webway gate. It's stated in the rulebooks that if he dies, nothing stands in the way of Chaos just consuming humanity as a whole.>the God Emperor Warp power?So he's dead but also a god now?>I don't know what you're referring to herePic related.
>>96773888Didn't they knew the Dangels' secret? Needs to be someone they can kill off.
>>96773862Prob one of the best art pieces ive seen for Warhammer
>>96773890I don't see it
>>96773901Sorry to hear
>>96773897I'm pretty sure just about every traitor legion is aware of their secret by now They just don't care
>>96773768he's not strong enough to be archaon desu. archaon would kill the primarchs and emperor easily in a fight
>>96773850Local variants of the aquila have existed forever. I'll take it over every aquila design having its own name.
>>96773855>The current one? He lost pain token reroll to hitAgainst targets below starting strength he inherently re-rolls to hit, no pain token required. The +1 to wound from a pain token is far, far more valuable on him as you're suddenly wounding nearly every marine in a 2+.
>>96773888It's no coincidence, IMO. 6th edition was also when the HH game was released featuring the traitor legions.I guess they wanted to make each setting more distinct in focus until the success of the HH ultimately made GW focus on the cult legions with TS in 7th and DG in 8th
>>96773911>sunwheel
>>96773897>Didn't they knew the Dangels' secret?No, they were just incredibly salty towards the DA.
>>967738931000 ordinary psykers couldn't power the astronimicon for a day. Malcador begun turning to dust almost immediately and he was alpha plus. It takes a Magnus or Emperor level psyker to power it without being destroyed almost instantly
>>96773931I think the HH novels are stupid for trying to hi-jack everything into their retarded "emperor's big smart plan" plot.
>>96773919Okay, and he had that before with incubi innately, and his anti-MEQ profile was better because of TL. Again, still good and sure, better solo now, but his profile now does less damage into almost everything compared to him+incubi before.
>>96773911now that modern DA have dropped the native american imagery are there any space marine chapters that have those motifs?
>>96773931nta, but the 1000 psykers do not power the Astronomicon. You're mixing up things.They're fed to the Golden Throne and the Emperor to help keep it running.
>>96773951I wouldn't be surprised if GW decided to not touch upon that kind of imagery>native americanSuch a stupid fucking name.
>>96773945 "emperor's big smart plan" plot is baked in the setting since Big E was created as Leto II Atreides with extra steps.And it has been canon since pic related more than 20 years ago before the follow up novels.
>>96773971I'm sure the emperor was always a fedora tipping atheist, yeah, clearly.
>>96773922not your chud sunwheel
>>96773955that's my point. He is the one doing it
>>96773984He was one longer than he wasn't at this point Unless you haven't engaged with the setting at all for like 30 years
>>96774024who's the artist
>>96774021Maybe I should have, is what I'm thinking.
@gork is this true?
>>96774045By trying to make 10th edition simple using chatGPT*
Which Chapter/Legion would be most likely to still be able to use Saturnine equipment in 40K?
>>96774045No, this is basically just a commercial. The gameplay wasn't complicated much between editions.
>>96774054Sallies, UM, Dark Angels, IF and Iron Hands.
what color should I paint the ammo box on his hip? This is the first primaris model I've done in almost 2 years. I don't really edge highlight anything anymore unless it's a small thin part like fingers
>>96774054None of them, they are all estúpido.
>>96774061red ammo box with light brown straps
>>96774061The same as the one on his gun.
>>96771808>TQTHICC NECK BIRD MEN, although they have grown on me. I think a lot of it is just because of how anemic the army range is in general. Of the "28" units available, 10 come from actual thousand sons kits (and 3 of those are from the same kit), the rest are borrowed from CSM or AoS. Feels like GW just regrets making them an army with how neglected their range is and how sloppily they write (and then re-write, and re-write, and re-write) their rules.
>>96774066you're saying the crossed lines over the cylindrical piece are straps?? I though it was just all one solid piece...
>>96774080obviously they're straps, the ammo box on the actual gun doesn't have them.
>>96774045The rules commentaries and FAQs only exist because of tourneyfags and WAACfags
>>96772006Electricity = Ki/Chakra/MannaThey should go full weeb e and have them throw chidoris and void dragon palms
>>96773785i mean just look on the new AoS single dude that is just so much better than whatever 40k got
>>96774123Isn't one of the questions "Can you deploy outside your deployment zone?" and it isn't regarding infiltrate
>>96774157>the new AoS single dudeYou mean this guy?
>>96774185so cool...
>>96774185Boring.
>>96774185>sculpted eyesI hate it
>>96771827can my king chicken get in the collage? I started on it last weekend
>>96774185If you swapped csm helmet on him and backpack would it fit?
>>96773386All they'd have to do is rework faith to grant something akin to geneseed and make the SoB more explicitly female space marinesmjktg
>>96774234What makes this spooky in any way. Also that anon isn't organizing it he's just asking about people's entries.
>>96774240I'd say give him some cables for good measure and a chainsword and yeaJust artificer armor, who cares
>>96774258>What makes this spooky in any wayElf. The foulest of creatures
>>96774240he got a shield on his back so maybe just eshew the sm backpack entirely
*electrical humming*
>>96774240>backpackMight be rough.
>>96774278So when he puts on the helmet his neck disappears?
>csm specialest dude primarch>bald nigga>his son>bald nigga with red top knot>other special dude primarch>a bald nigga with artificial dreads>ok maybe another one>a bald nigga>halfmask dude>a bald nigga>sergeant>a bald nigga>basic goon>a bald nigga
>>96773984The Emperor has only been a "a fedora tipping atheist" once, in a single clumsy short story.The rest of the time he has always been fighting the warp entities calling themselves "gods", or posing as a religious figure himself to steer humanity in bad times. Because "God" doesn't exist in 40k. There's only evil or alien "gods" besides himself becoming the God Emperor, which he wanted to avoid.The problem is that before the 2010s there was no need to explain "religion bad" to any sci-fi reader, it has always been baked in the genre since fucking Foundation if not before. But now we have to suffer latecomer delusional chuddies and shills trying to rewrite history
>>96774290How unfortunate that Fulgrim's luscious locks were not passed down to his legionnaires.
>>96774308IIRC Lucius had phenomenal hair before he decided to adopt the Killer Croc Chic look.
>>96774290The more long hair present in a 40k faction the less popular it is
>>96774341Dang lucius was a qt. Would smash
>>96774343is this why nobody likes white scars despite being marines?
>Kit has 10 backpacks>Cut out a piece of them totally unnecessarily so they don't get extra backpacksWhy are they like this.>>96774343why aren't GSC the most popular faction then
>>96774349>why aren't GSC the most popular faction thenBecause they aren't also space marines in addition to being bald
>>96774341John Travolta looking mofo
>>96774349Lrn2pressmould.
>>96774362Nope, Belial is the actual 40k Travolta
>>96771832This thread belongs to BLACKSTAR
Is there a character as breedable as Ahriman?
>>96774157>>96774185Do Aosfags have model blindness or something? This model is alright but its like... Chaos Lord with cape and sword #438257681924. Nothing special. I have a feeling that first dude is also a xenosfag because if that were a chaos marine he'd probably be saying the same thing.
>>96774413Nope
>>96774258didnt realize it had a prompt like, thought it was just “something we painted this month.” disregard.
>>96774426>Chaos Lord with cape and sword #438257681924Do you really want to start this? Half the time most people are just begging, crying and screaming, for more of the same in chaos like red butchers.
>>96774426the pose mogs the 40k ones though.
>>96774446Red butchers are not analogous to fantasy's chaos lord with cape. That would be Space Marine captains.
>>96774446>for more of the same>like red butcherszero effort bait
>>96774413The emperor of mankind
How would you design an RPG where you play as an Eldar? I kinda think Dark Eldar might be the best starting faction but it would turn a lot of people off.
>>96774444Nah we vote on a theme every month. Last month was kitbash. This month is spooky. If you wanna see the previous ones we've got them on the 40kg reentry page in the OP
>>96774426>if that were a chaos marine he'd probably be saying the same thing.imperium, including space marines, did get cool models in commomerative series before (and plenty other boring dudes) so it's not just hating on it because it's an imperial model
>>96774487>How would you design a WW2 RPG where you play as the Axis?>I kinda think Waffen SS Dirlewanger Bridgade would be the best starting faction but it would turn a lot of people off.DEfags are Unbelievable
>>96771827Maybe I'll skip this collage. Havent really started painting my Halo Device noble kitbash. My Custodes has been taking my attention lately. I just hate how skulls dont fit the Custodes aesthetics, because I love putting skulls everywhere.I cant believe pic rel is 700pts, btw.
>>96774501The reason I thought that is that you could start off as a slave and be given the chance to escape Comorragh somehow or whatever, not because you would automatically accept the DE way
>>96774432What the hell am I looking at here?
>>96774526A queen
>>96774519you can reach comorragh from a craftworld start point and I'm pretty sure that's what happened with Yvraine
>>96774467We're all fags here, just post the actual Emperor. He's honestly way hotter than this bimbofied anime monster.
>>96774501There are RPGs where you play as the "bad guys", most World of Darkness games are about you being a literal monster. Also, if one is the type of mong to want to be a Nazi, they likely want to be one of the most influential and powerful Nazis. So an Axis-themed RPG would almost certainly be SS-focused.
>>96774426>but its like... Chaos Lord with cape and sword #438257681924. Nothing specialpost 3 40k models like that then
>>96774545The bimbofied anime monster is better and less gay.
>>96774045I shudder to imagine the level of FAQ that would have been necessary for something like 3rd or 4th edition if it had to suffer the level of tourney-fagging 10th does.
>>96774572Nta but a good example would be things like pic related.
>>96774648those are nothing like this chaos dude with the cool cape
>>96773862Why is this so based? Modern 40k is supposed to be ugly and bad
>>96774545His pecks are little titish
>>96773097TCG shit is driven by false scarcity. 40k more or less is available at retail price so it has a cap pretty much. Its a bigger scam than warhammer, which just keeps raising prices because retards keep buying out all their stock no matter how much they charge and they are already producing at MAX capacity.
>>96774660Thats just what men look like if they work out for aesthetics and arent lardballs. I know everyone in the balkans is skinny fat or overweight though so you have probably never seen it.
Is it true that women love Night Lords?
>>96774675I live in America you ape
>>96774678Women are people so they like a lot of factions. More women like the more popular factions, so there are more women playing marines than any other faction.
>>96774432FtM from Prospero??
>>96774684So, you're fat?
>>96774684you sound and act like an ESL slav. but thanks to confirm you are indeed very fat.
>>96774678>>96774685when you say women do you mean real women or men in wigs?
>>96774689What does that have to do with anything? I know what proper pecks look like and in that art piece his tits look like water balloons.
>>96774694I mean Femcels
>>96774691I have Croatian/Serb and Scandinavian ancestry. I am peak genetics (To become a Space Marine, so on topic)
>>9677470250% of space marines are black, sorry. And I realize the balkans are incredibly racist but croatians are pretty far fucking down on the racial tier list as you are like 30% ottoman genetics who are in turn descended form turkic central asian steppe tribes.
>>96774572Now what
>>96774685>Women are peopleNo
>>96774702>an actual mutantwhat a plot twist
>>96774725Women are people, but (you) aren't.
>his army has women in it
>>96774732virgin
>>96774710He's about to tell you each of those are totally unique from each other and share no design language despite all looking nigh identical
>>96774689Croatians are actually even fatter than Americans. 36% obesity rate and 71% overweight.
>>96774744I will say its unfair to put Cypher in there because he literally has different design language but the rest absolutely I agree with your point.
>>96774678they like kurze, not night lords same "people" who fawn over true serial killers stories
>>96774762Aren't Night Lords kind of serial killers too?
>>96774769if they were true sadists they'd be khorne worshippers
>>96774732yes
>>96774774I mean, Drukhari are not Khorne worshippers
>>96772010God I hate how they kept chaos as mini marines they look so good otherwise. But I know what you mean about left right handed-ness, I hate that too.
>>96774769fangirls of serial killers don't like the killers when they're facelessso, no, they only like kurze
>>96773669>fuckhuge bolt round>top-break revolverFucking britbongs
>>96774774What? No, sadism is a Slaaneshi trait at best.
>>96774774sadism is slaaneshikhorne views anything but pure slaughter as excess
The Masque was once the chief handmaiden and most favored dancer of the god Slaanesh. After a terrible defeat in battle, she attempted to ease the god's humiliation with a dazzling dance, but the enraged Slaanesh perceived her movements as mockery. Slaanesh punishes the Masque, one of its favored dancers, by cursing her to dance for eternity without rest after she perceived her performance as mockery following a humiliating defeat. This eternal dance serves as a testament to Slaanesh's glory, re-enacting its victories for all to see. Her curse is not limited to her; she compels any onlookers to join her eternal, hypnotic pageant until they collapse from exhaustion.Poor little Masque was just trying to make her master smile again.
>>96774814>those petty squabbles are supposed to be reflecting eldritch and unknowable horrorsdaemons are such a shit faction
>>96774731>Women are peopleNo>but (you) aren't.Yes
>>96774821remind me how the traitor legions fell
>>96774814why are crabs associated with slaanesh
>>96774829claws are designed only for trapping prey, disecting them and feeding.
spinning skitarii.
>>96774826how is CSM are relevant? This supposed to be some kind of "own"?CSM falling doesn't change that daemon fluff on its own is dogshit
>>96774836How would (you) write a daemon fluff?
>>96774709Ever heard of Tesla?
>>96774710are any of these commemorative models
>>96774710I can halfway count the dark vengeance dudethe others don't do the same thing at allmaybe you're the one with model blindness
AoS has female giants.How can 40k compeat?
>>96774788Yea, because they are Khaine worshippers
>>96774829It's so dumb. Crab claws do nothing to communicate what Slaaneshi deamons are supposed to be. There is nothing particularly deft, bewitching, or sensuous about them. Somebody back in the 80s decided that Daemonettes should look like Blipdoolpoolp from DnD and nobody has decided to revise that design since.
>>96774891with female giant robots
>>96774891It doesn't yet
>>96774829because slaanesh was made up to justify selling a model that was ripping off D&D glabrezu in the olden daysthe glabrezu had claws, so the ripoff (the keeper of secrets) had claws, and the lesser demons had claws because they needed to carry some kind of element from the greater demon and claws as weapons did the trick
>>96774906Already in lore. One is even a main villain of some elf novel. It's actually pretty kino how she's introduced by describing a war horne she blows, how it's as long as 3 elfs are tall, making you think she holds a comically oversized trumpet, only to have her step over the chaos warriors and then tell you she's huge
>>96774732>cries about women>posts troon legioninteresting
>>96772023>>96772039>>96774780
>>96774648>>96774572>>96774710You guys are missing the point. The Chaos Lord is simple and elegant. Not too dynamic, or overdesigned.A good 40k example would be the Emperor's Champion. Just simple elegance, no jutting decors, dynamic poses, heavy movement, etc.
>>96774946the emperor champion is a disgrace in posing and composition unless you meant the older metal one
>>96772526>but enough about space marinessorry I insulted your even more generic xenomorphs :(
>>96774821Chaos isn't meant to be unknowable, except maybe for Tzeentch. Chaos is just the poor decisions of mortals being reflected in the warp. It's a gross, pathetic thing that destroys everyone that follows it. Psychic parasites that are inherently self-destructive. Chaosfags are in denial about this
>>96774185>meanwhile
>>96774568Shoah: The Extermination
The morally grey and complex factions in 40k are the Imperium, Votann, Eldar, and Tau. They take up the spot that a somewhat evil faction would occupy in a different game. Chaos and art the Drukhari are just comically evil and bad, while the Tyranids are monsters. Necrons don't have a clear direction really
>>96774185He looks fine, very true to the archetype, but he won't turn heads like some of the one-off models of yesteryear.
>>96773931>>96774004>retard hasn't even bothered to read the fluff he's complaining about
>>96775021>he forgot about orksI'd say Necrons are pretty much in the grey and complex bucket at this point, though heavily tilted towards evil
>>96774895vicesboth human flaws/bad habits and crab claws are called vices (in oldey english), that's literally it
>>96773971And before that we had this.
>>96775040I don't know which side of the argument this is, but the Throne psykers are plugged into a coffin as soon as they arrive and are drained to death, while the Astronomican psykers actually get training and just die of exhaustion after a little while
I bought some eschers to pad out my veteran guardsman kill team but they're a bit too coomer-y, even if they look good in gasmasks, any suggestions for female soldiers that look distinctly femenine but don't have high heels?
>>96775066Post pics of them.
The BL writers' understanding (specifically Laurie Goulding) of what the Emperor's grand plan with the Heresy make him extremely retarded beyond even what Emperor haters think
>>96775055And his master plan.
>>96775040>>96775056That is very old lore anyway. The light of the Astronomicon basically is the emperor at this point. Or something like that, it's left ambiguous. From Godblight>How do you perceive the Emperor, when you look into the warp?’>‘I see no god or man. I see the great light of your beacon. From it comes pain, and suffering,’ said Natasé, uneasy for once. ‘Who can tell if what I see in the light is true? Our lore tells us your master ever was chameleonic. Maybe He is truly dead. Perhaps if you turned off your machines, then the light would die. It is impossible to say. Every thread of the skein that leads to Him is burned to nothing. His path cannot be predicted. He cannot be looked upon directly. Some of my kind maintain that He is the great brake on your species, yet its only shield, that He is the poison to the galaxy that might save us all, that He is not one, but broken, fractured, and properly healed and with His power marshalled again could outmatch the great gods themselves. Others say He is nothing, that the light that burns so painfully over Terra is but an echo of a luminous being long gone. We must judge His worth to our species by inference alone.’The light of the Astronmicon also burns and daemons/creatures of Chaos. It's essentially the emperor's psychic presence being projected outward.
>>96775088Marines were plan B, crafted from scraps.
40k sisters?? Our response??!!
>>96774955I still have no idea what's supposed to be wrong with him. I feel like people are regurgitating what some e-faggots say and consider thie their opinion.
>>9677511440k sisters? More like marine sisters, I'm pretty happy with my faction's releases
>>96775121It's a downgrade especially the pose
>>96775114AoS has to have overdesigned models to get people to buy them and then nobody plays it. 40k actually has an audience that expects to be able to paint their models and have a decent number of them in a reasonable amount of time.
>>96775114>marines are shit and low effort Anon we already know that
>>96775114We have better rules, better lore, and an ethos. AoS is just a modeling team and a marketing team that talk to each other like once a month.
>>9677509310th edition rulebook is newer. Get fucked.
>>96774920>Already in loreNo one cares. Show me the models.
>>96775114>two marine models, an inquisitor and a votannwhen was the last time there was any significant complaint for a chaos or xenos release?
>>96775150>any significant complaint for a chaos or xenos release?let's seepeople hated>eightbound>jakhals>goremongers>tzaangors>tzaanbots>flawless blades>tormentors/infractors>lucius>new chaos jump lord>new cultists>the new dark eldar release and half-squatting>the taller votann robots>the kroot release
So are they finally going to commit to splitting the daemons into the 4 deity legions or will daemons continue to be in a weird limbo spot for 11th?
>>96775143There's no need to be so hostile. To be clear, the emperor being fed psykers via the golden throne is an entirely separate thing. It's not related to the astronomicon except insofar as what he is doing with it is one of the things that he has to use his power for. Exactly what's going with the emperor directing the astronomicon isn't clear, which is what I was saying before. His presence can clearly be felt in it, which is why it burns daemons and his pain can be felt when you look at it in the warp.
>>9677513540k is no different. Its just the models are too bland for the gribble bits to be showed off.
>>96775123It's pretty much the same.
>>96775164>the new dark eldar release and half-squatting>the taller votann robots>the kroot releasePeople were fine with the Deldar models we did get, did people really hate the steeljacks and kroot? Don't remember that happening
>>96775150Only eldar really had a decent release for xenos. well I guess nids too but I personally fucking hated painted them.
>>96775143To be fair the golden throne sacrifices are also called a choir sometimes too
>>96775191people hate the new archon, they're only okay with lady whateverpeople were crying that steeljacks were tallerand every taufag was upset that their releases this edition were wasted on auxiliaries
>>96775191People wanted tau to get more shitty looking mechs.
>>96775191He's a schizo basing this on the opinions of this thread (his own) and projecring them on the community.
>>96775201>people>every taufagYou're really a schizo.
>>96775205>>96775213calm down, you don't have to personally agree with those takes just because they're the majority opinion :)
>>96775201>people hate the new archonMost were talking how much better it was than the old archon though?
What are the odds of having Crimson Fists and someone calling them >nice ultramarines you got there faggot
>>96775114All that detail makes them easier to paint and look good, I like seeing our pro painters make their simple Marines into works of art.
>>96775082They've been on my backlog for the longest time because I'm still not convinced about them
>>96775227minimal unless they're an outsider who doesn't know about the setting
>>96775227In person, lowOn /tg/, now that you've said it extremely high
>tgw even craftworld models are too detailed and take me over 9000 hours a modelWhy am I so slow?
>>96775201No, the new archon is great, the old one was complete shit to the point everyone kitbashed their archons
>>96775216>:)Kys, shitposter.
>>96775227>What are the odds of having Crimson Fists and someone calling them>>nice ultramarines you got there faggotI don't this all the time but I call every Space Marines as Ultramarines.
>go to LGS to pick up paint>see two women(female) playing nids vs drukhari>chat for a while and find out they are both newish>get invited to join my local women's wargaming groupi didnt know so many other women played warhams but this was a pleasant surprise
>>96775304Lying? On the internet?
>>96775304There are loads of women into Warhammer, you can tell because they have the worst fucking tastes in armies. >Ohh cool, a game where I can be a holy crusader to a corpse-god, a demonic entity, the remnants of a vast but long-gone empire, or an emerging new empire with hopeful ideals>...>Instead of those choices I'll play fucking bugs
>>96775352Nids aren't even bugs.
>>96775337It's the ultras attention whore. Of course she's lying.
>>96775365holy rent free
>>96775352what does the SoB/nids main armies tell about a certain chick? my guess is borderline something
>>96775352stop trying to make me think women are based
>>96775374mentally ill femcels, you mean
>>96775372men have train autism, women have dinosaur autism, get with the times.
>>96775304There are two women at my LGS who play frequently as well. It is probably not as uncommon as people think.
>>96775352nids are cool tho, SUPER fun to paint for me. I admit deathguard will always be my true love tho
>>96775383Every kid under 5 has both, I promise you
>>96775114>wanting gook mmo super busy modelsIts already bad enough in 40k, why would I want it even worse in another game?
>>96775055>>96775088>>96775098These bits from Realms of Chaos weren't really retconned, they just were contextualized and expanded. A lot of it it's still literal canon.You're just coping because GW authors vision of their own creation doesn't match your outsider, out of touch headcanon-
>>96775439The gooks are based, the japs are the ones that are becoming gay.
>>96775337going to a game store and meeting other women is lying ? what are you high ?
>>96775451Gooks are japs fucking retard. You mean to say chinks.
>>96775464no they aren't retard
>>96775458>m.jpgLurk moar
>received my drukhari box the other day>one of the bits from the new archon fell off the sprue in the box Im gonna build the model tonight so I dont lose the piece but Im a bit panicking cause I havent nailed down how I wanna base it and everything yet. I didnt expect to have to get started already.Any suggestions, what sort of floor style should I go for? Ideas for something that fits a circus?
>>96775114AOS/Old world would be even more dead if we had 40k skaven.
i think i would enjoy this hobby better if i was honest with myself that i'm probably never going to play the actual game again and just build models i find cool, which it to say switch to epic scale
>>96775114I think it would be fairer to compare centerpiece models to centerpiece models, and infantry heroes to infantry heroes.
which space marine detachment uses basic terminators the best?
I'm trying to work on my minis after a year of not doing it
>>96775502You're really bad at pretending to be edgecoc he loves trannies
>>96775526Show the class
>>96775491you are in good company then, GW themselves market themselves as a model painting company.the proportion of the audience who actually plays the game is small. I may try it when i have a 2k army but atm im happy just painting my models.
>>96775352>wanting to fight for a corpse or empires that don’t give a fuck about their people>the alternatives are playing eldritch horror or pirate murderfuckersThey’re right
Im an OK painter, but iv kinda given up on the idea that I'll ever actually play the game itself , because of work and family life schedule , painting a full 2k point army to an acceptable quality takes me literally a year and a half.
>>96775537i guess i convinced myself decades ago to collect warhammer since there's an actual game for it as opposed to just building model kits or gundamsbut really that's a lie and i'm just collecting models for the sake of collecting models
>>96775491Paint your models and set up a 1k game with yourself, you will find it so much fun you will get friends and family into it and start playing even more!
>>96775008>AoS counterpart is a bald blind lady who couldn't afford plate armor to cover her midriff
>>96775563>Paint your models and set up a 1k game with yourselfI know those games you posted were never real lmao
>>96775483Do you have a paint scheme in mind? I would pick a simple basing method that either complements or contrasts your scheme depending on how busy it is.
>>96775563i've got painted armiesi'm just a friendless sperg worried about spraying spaghetti everywherei haven't played a game in over fifteen years
>>96775580Grim
>>96775570Have you never practiced small skirmishes alone? I play regularly with peeps but I also like to practice.
>>96775231You used Escher bodies for these, right?I think the biggest issue with them is that the legs feel bit too lanky compared to their arms.so I guess the best way to try fix them is trying to make the arms more proportional to the bodies.
>>96775569stop making me want to like stormcast.
>>96775121The old model has an elegant, purposeful stride towards his enemy, sword raised to the heavens.The new one has a generic akimbo pose. Like a glorified lieutenant.
>>96775464No they aren’t, Anon. Gooks are Koreans. >>96775440Trying a little hard there buddy.
>>96775575>Do you have a paint scheme in mind?Not decided on a full paint scheme, but the idea that I came up with and really want to go with is that I want to make Harlequin-type Drukhari. So colorful, diamond/heart/card patterns, clown-type colors etc.
>>96775121I mean, personally, looking at the visual comparison, something seems off
>>96775609What a retarded idea. Sounds cool
>>96775458you're trying too hard
>>96775627I, thanks? So what sort of base scheme do you think might fit.
>>96775624And yet you can't put it into words and when you inevitably try, you will use words that are meaningless like "soul, "slop", "vibes", etc. rather than anything tangible. This is explicitly what that anon was talking about in his post
>>96775624Left is going into battle, right is showing off.
>>96775633Something equally retarded. Maybe forest basing but you paint all the plants like metal.
>>96775580U just gotta stop caring, I know it's hard for peeps like us but you have to realize no one gives a fuck how you look or act unless (T) which even then most people just ignore them. Just go by yourself and set up a small 500 pt skirmish at one of the tables when its not busy and play it out. People will approach you for small talk but not all the time and it will help you be more comfortable and meet people.
>>96775624the left isn't meant to look too out of place with 3rd edition models, the right is meant to look in place with 9th edition models.more details
>>96775609Something like this perhaps?
>>96775489ToW doesn't have skavenBut if also can't be more dead than it already is
>>96775664Whyd you post some pancakes? >>96775652I have a feeling anons be trolling me.
>>96775559and their is nothing wrong with that anon, lets be real most of us get the models because we think they look cool.
>>96775664Something is very wrong with that butter, don't eat that
>>96775664I thought this was a tongue
>>96775639I'd say that newer one seems overdesigned. And the pose is worse, old pose seems fearsome and angry, while new one is, idk, feels like guy is posing or something
>>96775372Basic, if anything. SoB are intended to be the girl army, in that they're above Guards in prowess but below Marines. 'Nids are just animals* and women like animals. *I know they're not literally just animals, but they aren't that much more complicated.
>>96775534Trying to get back into it. Here's what I've messed with a Winged Hive Tyrant from the left over bits. I think I'm going to try making the carapace purple highlighted.
>>96775747>anon doesn't know what a bell curve is
>>96775747World Eaters and Emperor's Children are the High IQ hit them really hard armies
>>96775624>>96775121It's actually incredible how all these small, minor details add up and change the overall sculpture.Both models communicate deadly intent and no doubt furious rage, but the model on the right has a more, "wilder," slightly uncontrolled fury.>lantern is hanging at an angle, it's still shaking from being moved>end of the belt is hanging out, almost flopping around>prayer strips and cloth tabard hanging out from a combination of wind and recent movement>some details are sticking out, like leather buckles on left leg and chestplate, and helmet laurels, purposely breaking up clean silhouetteMeanwhile there are some truly minor, "problems," with the older model on the left:>sword looks more elvish rather than black templar>missing the, "melee weapons chained to the wrist," thing of black templars, but this was probably not solidified in the lore yetThe big difference feature (you might notice it, but your brain did) that differentiates the two models is the different angles between the hips and shoulders. On the left, the hips are pretty much parallel to the ground, while the shoulders are tilted just a bit off-angle. Meanwhile on the right, the hips and shoulders are definitely not parallel with the ground at all, forming a triangle with a much smaller angle.Everything else, like the swords being tilted at a nearly 90 degree difference, the small tactical rock on the right, these don't make as big a difference as the hips/shoulder angles.The model on the left is calmly, but furiously walking into battle while raising his sword in a kind of salute to the friendly troops around him, while the model on the right is walking into battle but has briefly paused to salute his sword towards the enemy.Overall both models are great and would be indistinguishable at first glance to a casual viewer, especially if seen on a tabletop in-game from over a foot way... Except that the model on the left would be a fair degree smaller.
>>96775703SoB are the fetish army for men. Always was always will be. Also for religious larpers along with Black Templars.
>>96775624left looks like hes calling out the enemy on his way to beat their ass, right is lifting his sword in victory after having beat their ass
>>96774607So does my devastator marine with a missle launcher get to fire frag and krak? Do I pick at the start of the game? Do I pick each turn?Or a really fun one for 4th edition, how does the dais of destruction interact with target priority?
>>96775786>coomer projects being a coomer onto everyone elsesasuga
>>96774607the 3rd and 4th edition rules wouldn't survive modern day
>>96774732>slaanesh toots as xhe pleases!
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>>96775786This. They are a latex, lesbian, femdom nun porn army
>>96775828Wtf when did the Miss Universe contest become fucking awesome?
>>96775164>>flawless blades>>tormentors/infractors>>luciusAll of these are good.
>>96775828Did she win?
>>96775828if she didn't make that herself I would dock her a point.
>>96775550Fighting and dying for pointless causes is the ultimate male fantasy, you would know if you had a T-count above 100
>>96775846When they realized that if it's just hot girls in dresses that they don't get women watching, but if you turn it into an arts and crafts show with hot girls you get everyone
>>96775854no they aren't lmao
>>96775874That's very big-brained of them.
>>96775624>Emp's ChampRepostan this gorgeous paint scheme.>what's wrong with itThe left is a characterful pose: he's striding forward, leading the way, invoking the emperor, his head tilted: he's determined to slay the enemy. Even something as subtle as the sword edge facing forward or the armor being plain: he's an incarnation, pure.The right doesn't understand its origins.The sword is shown, brandished, but more as an item and not a tool; there is no promise of war or battle.He's raised on a tactical rock, immobile, a beacon, but a beacon of what?The hand is wrapped in prayer beads, but they are not clenched, he's not dedicated, certain, filled with determination.There is no point in arguing with people who don't understand why the old classics remain memorable while the newer toys are just "cool and shiny".That's why people can write paragraphs about why classics rule while the only paragraphs faggot write is elaborate yet vapid ad hominems.Like what you want, I'm not gonna pretend it's grand or even decent.
>>96775854Flawless blades and Nu Lucy are not redeemable by any metric
>>96775883>image limit reachedGOD FUCKING DAMMIT anon said calmly
>>96775883>chance this is AI-generated 85%
>>96775892If I call you a niggerfaggot does it increases the odds?
>>96775624the biggest detail is actually that the foot placement shows motion on the left.the right model is like... falling over. Its an awkward pose. Also this might be a camera angle thing but the chin down, eyes up is more menacing than just staring forward.
>>96775904Is that the Ultimate insult in your eyes?
Image limit reachedCome on down>>96775917>>96775917
>>96775921Shut the fuck up tripfag
>>96773961>Such a stupid fucking name.What do you call them?
>>96776064Whatever their actual tribe is (or Indians).
>>96775304I have only seen a real female play this shit twice in my entire life. 99% of "girls" that play warhammer are transexual men
