Legendary Leader and Archaon edition>Resources:WFB: https://pastebin.com/qVGrgwwhWM: https://pastebin.com/EsDAgebaWFRP: https://pastebin.com/inbyBsR6Novels: https://pastebin.com/PFqPDr0H>TOW:https://gofile.io/d/fxFgXShttps://www.warhammer-community.com/the-old-world-downloads/>Warhammer Chronicles:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/0xt777 (dot) zip>Time of Legends:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/q46ut6 (dot) zip>The End Times:https://files (dot) catbox (dot) moe/j7d0t5 (dot) zip>Alternative Models:https://pastebin.com/xPeM9szL>Previous Thread:>>96763339>TQ:Which army are you working on currently? Do you already have your next army lined up?
>TQEternal hiatus wood elves. >next army lined up Maybe ill dump this and find some decent 3d empire of morr stuff, idk. Even then It'll probably only be to play that 500-750 point game mode. Did those rules ever get added to the bin btw?
>>96779065Picked up more orcs n gobbos. I know the battalion is the “ worst “ out of all of them but the store had it marked down dramatically (all the other battalions were regular price, this one probably didn’t sell at all) that it made it a steal not to grab it. >>96779087The rules aren’t even officially out until tomorrow, so expect scans and the addition within a few days.
>TQI'm still assembling and prepping my very infantry-heavy Bretonnians, so I'll be busy with them for quite a while. As for next army, probably doing Wood Elves with lots of trees. I always thought the goofy old low poly wood elves from RuneScape were cool before they turned them into a bunch of mutt freaks dressed like San Francisco faggots.
>TQworking on 500pts of beastmen for the new mode. Just slapping on some Ratskin Flesh i got in the mail and its super thin and running , almost comparable to the GW air stuff, maybe got a bad pot i dunno dont use this colour ever really. Gonna be a three coater i think.
>TQi finished my first squad of 31 orcs with choppas and shields, and i'm now painting 31 orcs with spears and shields. after that i will probably grab the arrer boyz box and then start doing more fun shit once my infantry blobs are finished. picrel is the first squad.>next army lined upi wanna do a city-state of nuln army where i have an excuse to spam handguns and helstorm rocket batteries, pretty much the opposite of orcs
>>96779065>lizardman player wants to teach me the basics>it's ? edition back in 2001>we fight two regiments to show me whats what>he loses nothing, I lose one model>all of my 29 dudes in the regiment flee, and fail some sort of roll and get scatteredyeah no, that shit was dumb... is it still that way today?
Youtube pls stop recommending me Robs rat face and petulant, whiny horseshit.I know you lurk these threads Rob please go back to AoS.
>>96779704I love your orcs. I am assembling my first orc n gobbo army. How do you paint the skin if I may ask?
>>96779716Yes, as it has been since 1992.
>>96779704>bright green skin>bright red shields>dull brown clothingVGH. Hit those bases with Goblin Green and you might cause a SOVL overdose.
>>96779716No, now in a pitched battle you kind of just get pushed back a bit 90% of the time and then the winner gets to decide if they want to push the line or hold back to redirect.
>>96779846vallejo goblin green base, army painter green tone wash, highlight with goblin green again and final highlight with escorpena greenthis is a bit closer to how it looks irl but it's very bright>>96779857thanks, i was planning to use vallejo brown battle mud or something grey and dark to contrast with the bright skin and shields though, just haven't got any basing stuff i like yet
>>96779407>Another beastchad has hit the threadGood fuckin lord we must outnumber everyone else by at least double
Holy fuck I just realised that each model on the battlefield doesn't represent 1 soldier on the battlefield but likely manyWhat ratio do you picture in your head?
>>967800751:1
>>96780075It's all an abstraction. You could throw an apple further IRL than most models can shoot an arrow/musket.
>>967800751:1 and my army is just a small part of a bigger battle, or a small band raiding, pilaging and generally having great time adventuring.
Here are some lists I wrote up for Warhammer Armies Project to demonstrate that almost all army themes can already work at 500 points.
>>96778091Was thinking about something like pic rel because i really like the models apart from the small mutated claws. Ad only says they are 32mm models on a 50mm bases.
>>96780156The way you formatted the points cost of each unit displeases me. The total value for each unit should be the number next to the unit's name and the base points cost (model cost*unit size) should be a sub-value. This would make things easier to tally up.
>>96779704Maybe it's just me, but unless they're black orcs or night goblins, it feels wrong to make greenskins so uniform.
>>96780293love yours mate good jobi agree but i have a 40k ork army and hate painting them because i made each of them too unique, i have much preferred painting these guys and i like how they look a lot more too
Should I give my big core of rangers great weapons or no? I'm gonna give them axes and crossbows... and possibly shields.
>>96780293I like the idea but these dip too far into teal and gray for my tastes. The color palette is pure sovl though, good job on the bases too.
>Buy wight king off ebay for 500pts VC list>12 days later>Royal Mail card in letter box>Seller didnt pay postage, please pay 8 fuckin poonds>Contact seller for refund>Dares to claim I am the one being a scammer here.Every year it gets harder to buy any warhammer online without bullshit rearing its ugly head.
>>96779827Who the fuck is Rob
>>96780576Rob the Gob.
>>96780570I've stopped using Ebay entirely because every time there's a problem with an order i have to wade through AI and literal Indian customer support
Quickly! what is /yourdudes/ themesong?>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUMGaHMffOQ
>>96780293Reminds me of that old whitedwarf article with rules for bog goblins, river goblins etc
>>96780586This one is the most fitting for the Horned Moon-Kin, my beastmen warherd who worship/venerate Morrsleib>https://youtu.be/LplPi2CxNHI?si=gFfUwNzERbcBSKxp
Man i fell off tabletop games with 6th edition when WoW got its vile hooks into me but i got back in with 2nd edition AoS. After playing TOW for a few months i think its ruined AoS for me. Like i still like the setting and models for the most part but man its really shone a light on how fucking barebones and bland heros are in AoS. No equipment choices, just a static block that unless its a big centerpiece does one thing you need or is just a generic beatstick. Its like the game treats them more like card game deck staples. TOW has its own flaws but making heros feel like heros is something the Anvil should have brought back to AoS and its baffling it didn't.
>People losing their minds that chorfs and now maggotking of nurgle are getting female soldiers in their units.What the fuck is it that makes autists freak out at more diversity in chaos units? they are supposed to be the unwashed masses, the ravening hordes rejects by society. Some big fat lass full of pus and bile swinging an axe isn't nurgley enough for the nurgle club?
>>96780650wrong thread buddy, the AoSG is two blocks down
>>96780650Why are you posting about it here? Go away. You people have your own thread.
>>96780650fuck off
>>96780650>lass>swinging an axeTherein lies the problem. Dumbshit tranny who's never trained physically kys
>>96780570Maybe you could turn to secondary market groups on social media, and if your country has any dedicated sites, those are always safe to use because the owners give a shit.
>>96780761You know Nurgles blessing fills his followers with unnatural strength and vitality and thats why big fat guys can take on a dwarf slayer and walk away right?
>>96780650Wrong thread.I don't mind female WoC but female Chorfs go against the fluff and theme of the faction itself as does female Dwarfs
>>96780826I know the Kharadron have female soldiers but they are a meritocratic navy. But i dont think regular dwarves in aos have any female characters at all, even counting characters with no models.
>>96780826>go against the fluffthey changed the fluff, the ratio of dwarfen female that get birthed ramps up in times where ambient magic is abundant
>>96780849I'm speaking in Fantasy terms not AoS ones>>96780841Kharadron can do whatever idc
Dwarf females should have been big boobed opera singer type bards that buff and debuff by hollering dwarf songs and you cannot change my mind.
>>96780881>*horrific scottish pterodactyl shrieking echoes for miles, elves drop to the ground, blood trickling from nose and ears*>Your average Slayer, wiping away a single manly tear: just like me mamm used tae sing to me as a bairn
>>96780881>"By Ulfrics Beard it sounds like that time a goblin got caught in the steamtanks treads"
>>96780881>>96780890i see the vision
>>96780824>big fat guysThose are not American fat fucks in mobility scooters, they're Kyriakos Grizzly build powerlifters. Again outing yourself as a fat retarded bitch with a pathetic untrained loose saggy body, kys
>>96780890sounds like this has wellhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auR-lJfzTeY
>>96780904Friend just because you are built like a Putrid Blightking does not mean you are bloatmaxxing, you just fuckin' love dinner.
What is the actual difference in character between Ogres and Orcs? They seem almost identical from obsession with fighting and having goblins as underlings.>inb4 food
>>96780941Orcs specifically are antagonistic. They see outsiders as kill on sight and will invade and kill everyone they encounter on principle.Ogres are Mongolion Hordes. They will invade and attack settlements when they have a need but will just as often break bread with outsiders. Granted they will eat you if you offend them but they are an actual race and culture as valid as dwarves or elves whereas orcs are barely more than feral beasts that seek to tear down everything. I guess the easiest way to simplify it is orcs see everyone as their enemy, ogres see nobody as their enemy. Both will attack you and steal your shit but theres a hatred behind it with orcs but merely hunger with the ogres. Ogres are just a lot closer to Giants in sentiment and behaviour whereas Orcs are just what if you crossed a goblin and a gor.
>>96780941ogres will adapt to their environment i.e. adopt certain cultural traits while living amongst humans for example whereas orcs will just turn everything orcy. ogres are also quite content with just settling down for a while and going for raids a few times a month just to get food whereas orcs live to fight and revel in slaughter.
>>96780941Orques can live within human and other races' society pretty easily. Orcs/Goblins can't
>>96780941ogres are people orcs are animals with language. one is a culture and society the other is an invasive pest.
>>96780087>>96780102This always struck me as the worst approach by far.Historyfags, at any point have groups of 20 to 30 assembled in ranks to form units to fight battles? Am I wrong to imagine that's insane and never happened? I'm specifically talking about ranked formations of men, deliberately structured that way, because obviously small groups have had to fight out of necessity on countless occasions.The idea of a line of 5 man is to pathetic to imagine. Perhaps you 1:1lets are aphantasic?
>>96780981It represents marching columns in middle ages combat tactics. Archers can't absolute buttstrate you from the front if you are in a narrow column.
day 1000000000000000000 of not being able to buy that one kit I want
So leak is doing the rounds that Ogres were meant to be coming to TOW this december but its been put back like 6 months as GW is doing some fucky shit behind the scenes and every system is being affected.What do you think they are up to?
>>96780958>>96780965>>96780970>>96780971Thsnks. I get their attitude to outsiders is different and level of aggression but their speech pattern and mannerisms / societal structure seem copy and paste.Honestly, it sort of put me off Orcs and Goblins in 6th as I felt Ogres rendered them obsolete due to being too similar. I've come round it a bit and like Orcs again but wish ogres didn't take the spotlight as fighting loving barbarians.
>>96780650Hey retard war is about violence, which makes it a man's domain - if you think women are any good at violence that's just more proof you're one of those creepy performative men who has to feign an interest in women's issues to try to get laid
>>96780650Chorfs are not a chaos rabble they're literally evil, middle eastern themed dwarfs with hordes of slaves underneath themIn old lore they had harems of women for the higher up chorfs - not exactly feminists
>>96781023Ogres really came out the gate strong. Their 6th edition army book has a lot of great fluff and the same month there was an excellent white dwarf that was all about a empire scholar travelling the silk road with them.Hell even today in TOW they get interesting lore. Did you know the Great Maw is actually the remains of the Celestial Dragon calling down a chunk of Morrsleib to try and smite them but their natural resistance to warpstone made the area a inhospitable waste to all but ogres who just started worshipping the hole?What the fuck have orcs even had since TOW started?
>>96781014arn't they dealing with the local nottihan council due to many Bats on their new construction site?
>>96781002GERROFF! THAT'S MINE! Bloody thijg sold out a day after it restocked.>>96781035Nuffing but I much prefer Gorbad to any fat obese ogre
I realise this is expecting people ITT to actually read which is a big ask but do people not know the current poster villain for chaos is a norscan woman?
>>96781036Night Lords just keep winning lads. Black Legion BTFO.
>>96781049actually its kralmaw
>>96781056Krawlmaw is her simp sadly.
>>96781049Nobody knows because nobody cares. Frydaal sucks, she takes up too many pages in the anorexically thin arcane journal (which was terriglr, by the way. I know wood elves got a really bad one, but chaos got the 2nd worst arcane journal for sure) with her boring story and her boring scenario and chaos is supposed to be about your chaos champion, not GW's.
>>96781035>is the ritual complete?>....yes my lord>and? are the fat simple minded beasts stricken from these lands?>n-no my lord>...what?>In fact the comet had no effect>On anything?>Oh no my lord, the land is an inhospitable wasteleand, it just doesn't effect ogres>Not at all?>Well technically its given them religion and they are now more unified>...fucking ogres.Luv me gut, luv me maw, luv me dindins, simple as, appy days, all the best lads turrah.
>>96781049You'll be hard-pressed to find people here or anywhere really who are extremely interested in the narrative of The Old World. We're just happy people are playing the system and being able to buy the models again.I don't give a shit that some Norscan bitch is leading the forces of Chaos until the Everchosen gets here but in general to changes to the setting are pretty poor. I like Cathay in the Total War game but they're so boring and bordering on Mary Sue-ish in TOW, Bretonnia as a faction is too overtly good now, Araby's incursions into the Border Princes just got retconned, etc. There's not a single addition to the fluff that The Old World has added that I truly like.
>>96781075>chaos is supposed to be about your chaos champion, not GW's.Brother if you think Frydaal is bad let me tell you about fucking Archeon, the worst thing to ever happen to chaos.
>>96781075>The main villain takes up too many pages.
>>96781084Look, if she's not interesting then it's not interesting
>>96781088Bro its a chaos undivided character. What did you expect?
>>96781014Skaven players are going to be insufferable if we get Ogres back before them.
>>96781081Nta but Archaon is 1000000 better for Chaos than the likes of Grimgor Dullside
>4000 pts of ogres to get off roundies and rebase.>Again
>>96780981>Perhaps you 1:1lets are aphantasic?No, I can absolutely imagine way more, I just like my wargames more about smaller scale engagementsI'm not stunted enough to think there's the need of hundreds of thousands to make sense of a battle
>>96780881>>96780902She doesn't sing, but otherwise GW was way ahead of you guys.
>TQ Working on Night Goblins
>>96781049>poster villain for ChaosShe's the leader of a single faction of Norscans, not all of Chaos
>>96781171It's not about imagining a smaller battle, it's about imagining why tiny groups of people are getting into formations that only work for larger groups to fight a smaller battle.Why do you imagine your forces to be militarily incompetent? Humiliation fantasy type shi?
>>96780981City fighting maybe. Also there are tons of conflicts that aren't big enough to make it to the history books. Like Italy was renowned for small scale skirmishes between feuding families. Norsemen often fueded and things turned into ambushes.
>>96781209>militarily incompetent>March in formation unerringly
>>96781084>main villainShe's nothing. An ineffective and boring villain isn't a villain at all. TOW barely even has a narrative involving chaos at this point and if Frydaal is all GW can come up with they shouldn't even try to incorporate chaos into anything going forward. They've said it themselves, chaos is in a period of relative calm until the great war against chaos picks up, so they should sell the models, shut the fuck up, and let the players come up with their own chaos characters.>>96781081Archaon stinks for his own reasons. Don't get things mixed up. GW has sucked at making chaos cool since the storm of chaos at the very least and Archaon is a big reason why. And before you say he's been around since before 6th, I'm well aware.
>>96781209>it's about imagining why tiny groups of people are getting into formationsthat's not difficult at allespecially when formations are also abstractions way more than numbersdo you think gors space themselves in neat ranks and files? man, your imagination sucks
>>96780981Yes there are many cases of battles only having like 100-200 men participating on either side.
>>96781024The difference in combat capabilities between man and woman is smaller than that of orc and goblin, yet you don't see people screech about goblins participating in orc's domain.
>>96781247Yeah that wasn't the question that was asked.Did the 100 men separately group up into three units of 33 men in a square?
>>96781209Warhammer's formations aren't indictive of how formations work irl regardless of their size.
>>96781234gw should also just stop beating around the bush and just give us Asavar Kul alreadythat's the problem with a character like frydaal, she's *fine* but theres a much bigger, well known, and popular character around the corner, so she's going to immediately be outclassed
>>96781211>Like Italy was renowned for small scale skirmishes between feuding families. Norsemen often fueded and things turned into ambushes.Cool, skirmishes, not ranked formations, in other words the very allowance that was preemptively made in the post you quoted to keep know-it-alls from chiming up.Please tell me about the times the Vikings and Italians ranked up battle in the villages and streets, though.
>>96781257Yes those 100 men would form small formations.Would they form exact, disciplined squares? Probably not but that's not really an issue of size it's an issue of wathammer formations not really working the way they did irl.
>>96781266>she's *fine*how? does she even have a character trait beyond being a woman?
>>96781266a character like that would be done in plastic, perhaps they threw around nobodies in the first releases because they would be done in resin and sacrificed down the line like the resin kang bearer
>>96781264In what ways are they different?The fundamentals of the rules seem cogent -- the first 1-2 ranks actually engaging in bloodletting, the remainder of the formation providing morale and weight/momentumWhat are the big functional differences?
>>96781275>Please tell me about the times the Vikings and Italians ranked up battle in the villages and streets, though.Please tell me as well anon, that sounds utterly fascinating. I hope Vikings and Italians ranked up and fought in a city at least once
>>96781276Were they in what you might call "skirmish formations?"I know I've seen that term somewhere.
>>96781247>>96781211I think he's more talking using large scale unit tactics in small scale skirmishes than whether small scale combats ever happened. The answer to which is yes. Even in small scale combats people fought in tight groups and tried to flank or surround the opponent. Fighting in nice orderly ranks is an abstraction but it's less of an abstraction than one man representing more, or strict turn order for that matter.
>>96781291The vast majority of city-dwelling Italians are rank.
>>96781277None of these tokenized checklist characters do. Litreally impossible if you have to fill out a diversity bingo card to appease your corporate overlords.
>>96781302>Even in small scale combats people fought in tight groups and tried to flank or surround the opponent.In those instances aren't the flanking forces most likely to be your own "unit" wrapping up and around?I would love some concrete historical examples of multiple small units of men fighting in (even loosely ranked and filed) formations.
>>96781304
>>96781298Are you retarded?
>>96781312look up maniple, you imbecile
>>96781314Are you switching strats after having your ass fed to you?
>>96781304yeah because they defile your mother.
>>96781317
>>96781358Looks effective, formationally.
>>96780586>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91MbkQdBSYU
>>96780586https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWu3JqLMImY
>>96781049Chaos warrior women have been a thing in WFB world since forever (three I can name without thinking much: Aazela Silkenthings, Dechala the Denied One - if she can be considered a chaos warrior as an she-elf - and Justine von Heidhoven). A woman can be fuelled with chaos energies, making her troon and that's fine. If GW just needs to add more - like Frydaal - it's OK, I still don't care about her. We all know who the real star is - it's Asavar Kul. what I DON'T accept is pegasus female knights and other such absurd things. There was only one Repanse.
>>96780586The first song https://youtu.be/3WiTx5kWm0g
>>96781312>historical examples of multiple small units of men fightingThese largely don't exist. Even big history shaping battles generally have very little detail written down, or are sometimes chronicled hundreds of years later. But there are enough SCA, history buffs and LARPers to show that fighting in close groups is a useful tactic even with every numbers of combatants.
>>96780586https://youtu.be/b8dDteQVKbM?t=43m10s
>>96781441are you retarded>One of the earliest mentions of the Hypaspists in Arrian’s Anabasis is during the Battle of the Granicus in 334 BCE, where they were deployed in a supporting role to the main Macedonian infantry line. As the Macedonian phalanx, with its long spears (sarissas), advanced into battle, the Hypaspists were positioned to exploit gaps in the enemy lines and act as a flexible force capable of responding to the evolving dynamics of the battlefield. Arrian suggests that while the phalanx provided the backbone of the Macedonian army, the Hypaspists, with their agility and elite status, could perform more specialized tasks.
>>96781491>or are sometimes chronicled hundreds of years later.
>>96781499Okay, here is Herodotus writing in his time about skirmishershttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skirmisher>In Classical Greece, skirmishers originally had a low status. For example, Herodotus, in his account of the Battle of Plataea of 479 BC, mentioned that the Spartan Army fielded 35,000 lightly armed helots to 5,000 hoplites, but there is no mention of them in his account of the fighting.[1] Often, Greek historians ignored them altogether,[1] but Xenophon distinguished them explicitly from the statary troops.[2] It was far cheaper to equip oneself as lightly armed than a fully-armed hoplite. Indeed, it was common for the lightly armed to go into battle equipped with stones.[3] The low status of skirmishers reflected the low status of the poorer sections of society that made up skirmishers.[4] Additionally, hit-and-run tactics went against the Greek ideal of heroism. Plato gives the skirmisher a voice to advocate "flight without shame" but only to denounce it as an inversion of decent values.[5]Nevertheless, skirmishers then chalked up significant victories, such as the Athenian defeat at the hands of the Aetolian javelin men in 426 BC and, during the same war, the Athenian victory at the Battle of Sphacteria.[4]
>>96781266She's not fine. She's boring, her model isn't cool, and neither you nor I can name a single one of her character traits from memory, largely because she doesn't have any that make her stand out from the generic chaos lord template, which makes her somehow even more generic than a literal blank slate because she's allegedly a named character with a narrative of her own that the players have involvement in or attachment to. A chaos lord becomes your chaos lord after you paint and name him, after you assemble a warband for him to lead and after he kills his enemies by your command. Frydaal is just Frydaal, and nobody likes Frydaal largely because she's just Frydaal. At least Archaon is the everchosen (though I take issue with there even being an everchosen, let alone one alive during a period of time in which the narrative of the game is set) and, for better or worse, people know about him. Some people hate him and he's at least one person's favourite character. People don't hate Frydaal because there's nothing about her that's interesting enough to make people care and that's the worst sin a character can ever commit.
>>96781516shes a jobber character. She suits the low fantasy world of fantasy.
>>96781527She's not even a jobber. Jobbers actually do a job. People like jobbers. People grow attached to jobbers. People even root for jobbers, at times. Everyone loves the underdog, you know. Frydaal is nothing.
>>96781508We're not talking about skirmishers used in parts of letter battles though. We're taking about skirmishes where the entire engagement is a few hundred men or less.
>>96781572What are you going to change the requirements to after I find that for you, lazy anon?
Did a little graveyard for my sylvanian table
>>96781618>no dot after prest in p
So do you think Ogres will come back now its confirmed the WHFB range is being retired from AoS like they did with Cities of Sigmar and Empire?
>>96781686not until next edition
>>96781582No I'm saying that there is not much readily available meeting the original anon's requirements. Which is true, because what you posted does not meet the original requirements.
JAAAAAAMES let me paypig those bull centaurs already
>>96781686More importantly will the have the original Ogre Kindoms olive~grey skintone or the old school and retconned regular skin tones?
>>96780586>battle themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6p8s2UUzS8>challenge themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXUu7vnjSe8>HERE IT COMEShttps://youtu.be/h1rR6WNRywY?si=qOsauQNI3wvFI8y_&t=244
>>96780586Wood aggro emohttps://youtu.be/uelHwf8o7_U?si=41ePV1RaukFBOwUN
>>96781686Where it is confirmed?
>>96781686Definitely.>>96781756Honestly I like the grey skin tone because it makes warpaint pop and makes them more inhumane, ogres are man eaters and they should look the part
>>96781847There are rumours from a reliable source that said that basically all units aside from the stonehorn/thundertusk are getting remade for AOS
>>96779951Add another one to the list. The cover of pic related is what drew me into the hobby as a kid. Sadly i lived in a small town where people only played 40k and by the time i grew up and moved into a larger city fantasy had already gotten squatted. Ordered the battallion box and brayherd shaman a few days ago. Come christmas i can finally go peepee poopoo on my friends
>>96781953Raaroo my friend
Settled on the bits for my small unit of Warped Gors. Trying to emulate the slightly silly mutants id see in white dwarf in the 90's.Now i gotta greenstuff a shitton of filler muscle fibres, hair and maybe a couple of hoods for these freaks. I really like the units Splice Horn leader with his almost Morghast gooner arm.
>>96782105and the other half. Gonna use them to experiment more with glazing as you know their skin is all fucked up.
>>96782105>>96782114Very cool Anon, planning on making my own warped gors once I am done with my backlog of beasts.You could also try and make a Molokh Slugtongue inspired Shaman, perhaps the very being that has warped the gors.
>>96782105>>96782114these work greatnow use the hoofed chaos spawn body with a normal gor head and gor arms
>>96782142>brother there is something wrong with Dennis>"Lovely day isn't it!">the humans have done something to him brother, he will never sire calves, will he?
>>96782133>Kruulboyz shaman body>Big skull from the skulls box>Staff from dark shaman kitids habbeding.
>>96782133Remember Gors are on 25mm but Warped Gors are 30mm like Bestigors. More room to get them freakmaxxing. Though i tried to keep at least 50% of each model a Gor so you recognise what they are, just that they are fucked up.
>>96782105>>96782114>>96782192Sorry whats this?
>>96782216The Beastmen Arcane Journal introduced Krawlmaw. The disciple of the Gavebeast who can turn entire towns of people into mutants with a single spell. In his company he has more primal/mutated versions of normal Beastmen and they have stat sheers with different stats, costs, base sizes and a shit ton more keywords.They are pretty pricey and pretty much for fun narrative only fodder but it specifically says "we recommend mixing Gors and Chaos Spawn parts". I had 10 left from an old AoS start collecting and Spawn parts from a 40k army so decided to make a fun side project.Hopefully we get more kitbash units. Promotes hobbying rather than just pure tourneyshit.
>>96782179>Of course not, brother. And if you do not wish to have more sadness, you will look less, know less, and say less than do I.
>>96781209Shieldwalls scale pretty well I dont see a real issue there.
>>96782179>>96782295I hate how well that video works as horus heresy audiobook dialogue.
>>96782307Beastmen Origin Story:>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA5lujNlkn8
>>96781298Anon do you think warfare works like qarhammer where you're either in a non-uniform blob or a perfect square?
>>96782327real warfare is like in the movies where everyone runs up quickly to find find a dueling partner from the opposing side
>>96781118No, Grimgor is dull, Archaon is pure 40k daddy issues cancer ported to wfb. He is much worse.
>>96782333No wars are fought like that one epic scene in the north man where one guy is doing pretty much all the heavy lifting and he bites a mans neck off and its epic and awesome and I came when he did the howl!
>>96781256Yeah and there are reasons for that you disingenuous troon
>>96781024Violence is where equality reigns
>>96781266I'm honestly expecting them to retcon into a Kul a black lesbian or something
>>96782387Sounds like you're addicted to outrage and will make up things to be mad about when deprived of it
>>96782410Warhammer community loves to be angry at things, its 2/3 of the hobby. Best way to keep yourself engaged with the ips.
>>96781312Literally the entirity of naval boarding actions.Kind of hard to beat a block of pikeman on a 5 meter wide deck.
Any TK players out there? I'd like to hear about your general, high level thoughts and feels on playing the faction and if you think the mechanics enhance the feel of playing TK or not.I'm looking to start a new army and for me it's important that the mechanics make me feel like I'm playing a certain type of peoples or culture that matches the aesthetic.
If they wanted to make a female chaos lord that people like and makes sense in the timeline just make her slanneshi amazon with punk rock hairdo that apears out of nowhere to steal man for her harem and children to grind their bones into cocaine. Make her harbinger of chaos spreading the news about inevitable coming of the everchosen. Let her lead that shitty as fuck WoC cav AJ list, or maybe even let her take units from dark elf roster.
>>96782486You can't trick me dark elf anon, you aren't getting your foot in the door. Delf players burned that bridge and put it on youtube. Its Naggarover.
>>96780586Ogre Kingdoms https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oWQqCgSOIKY&pp=ygUOc2Ftb2Egam9lIHNvbmc%3D
>>96782348Archaon went on a long quest to gain his items and become the lord he was today. He went mad realising that he was destined to be the Everchosen. I don't see what's not to like.Grimgor inversely is simply an Orc who loves to fight and is good at it. That's it. I also hate how he killed 3/4 if the old Greenskin cast himself.
>>96781049>>96781402This. One of the short stories in the very first Gotrek and Felix novel involves them stalking a Beastman band led by a WoC woman who made a daemonic pact to kill her own daughter so she can ascend to daemonhood.
>>96781122Just use adapters, fool.
>>96782474TK's have 2 play styles, monster mash with double dragon or big blocks of immovable infantry.
>Human shitters argueing who is chaos' chosen.>When its clearly Morghur, the Shadowgave, the Gor-Dum, Cyanathair the CorruptorHe literally ate gods, Ariel was fucking terrified of him, he almost ate the Lady of the Lake and to Brettonia he is literally The Devil. He cannot stay dead and is constantly reborn and every time he is nature across the entire planet gets fucked up and mutation rates sky rocket. His mere existence even if he does nothing fucks up the entire PLANET.Fun fact before they scrapped the Beasts of Chaos revamp for Age of Sigmar the big bad of 3rd edition was going to be Morghur as something divine but not a chaos god but something worse. Archeon a shit. SHIT!
>>96782587there is also potential chariot spam
Fucked up that Tomb Kings got a lot of love with this new edition but are basically less fun/interesting Vampire Counts.Same as it ever was really i suppose.
>>96782591Go shit in the barn beast boy. WoC will always be the Gods first choice.
>>96782612TK's are arguably the strongest core army, definitely the strongest if you remove Cathay balloon spam, which will be nerfed hard soon.
>>96782614True, but strong doesn't mean fun. Vampire Counts are the undead with options and enough silly shit to have a good time. TK right now is two build waacshit and designed that way sadly.
>>96782620You can do silly TK's too it just won't win tournaments. Vampires can't do an all chariot list. That automatically makes TK's more fun.
I feel like /wfg/ is more Beastmen, Orcs and Empire players than anything else.Was this edition secretly midland forestniggas all along?
>>96782702The Orcs and Empire doesn't surprise me. The Beastman popularity does, in a good way. Nice to see Beastbros thriving.
>>96782702>forgetting about us dwarf fagsINTO THE BOOK YOU FUCKER
>>96782702secretly?
So with the AoS rumours of coming soon Ogre/Dark Elf overhauls can we safely assume that both armies are coming back to Fantasy?
Is it a good time to get into the Tomb Kings bros? My FLGS is giving 20% off of the big box and I have a gift card that needs to be used.
>>96782702I got Warriors but ya, I appreciate some beastmen bros.
>>96782838it is never a bad time to buy skeletons.
>>96782838It unironically depends. Is this your first army? The army itself is tied with Cathay for the strongest army currently. But that can and will change over time. They are easy and fast to paint, but the base skeleton models are from the 90's. If you enjoy the look of the retro skeletons go for it. If you don't, choose a different army imo.
>>96782844Friend what if i told you they can mix together?Just 500 pts of beasts to get started, just a little thing, Archeon doens't need to know...
These look a good but are awful to assemble. Not as bad as the new MESBG wild men, but still.
>>96782844Yeah Anon c’mon just a lil bray shaman and a few Gors to supplement your chaos warriors, they can ambush ya’know
>>96782972Why are seemingly all new GW kits such a pain in the fucking ass to assemble? The 6-7th and even 8th edition kits are such a pleasure in comparison. I wonder if it's the weird slicing to make recasting harder, or whether it's some BS psych thing of "if they have to put effort into assembly they will feel like it was more valuable" type thing.
>>96782972Oh motherfucker just you wait till you build a Sentinel. The objective worst kit GW currently sells in terms of build design.
>>96782844Brøther, does thou crave to live deliciously?
>>96782985It's all the new kits I think. The Bret BSB was such a fucking hassle compared to the KOTR
>>96783000There has to be a herd out there lead by a Wargor named Black Phillip
>>96783001I don't think you understand. The Sentinel is the WORST. Think of the worst build you have ever had to do. THIS ONE IS WORSE. ITS SO MUCH FUCKING WORSE.THE LEGS ALONE ARE LIKE 50 PIECES.
>>96783012...the legs on the Cygor are six pieces...
>>96783012That sucks, I am not personally interested in Cathay as an army but the Sentinel is def my favorite model in that range.
>>96783027Tbf the Gordon's arms are an annoying hassle. There's few parts but it's hard to differentiate which piece is supposed go where and the instructions aren't helpful.Once you know to assemble a gorgon it's a piece of cake but figuring that out the first time takes trial and error
>>96782972Man I really don’t like the armor design on cathay, I saw a box being sold for $100 for the battalion, and I was tempted but I do not like the direction this army went on the table top.
>>96783051I think you probably just don't like Sino aesthetics. Which is fair. The armor design is really thoughtful. Overall the aesthetic design of Cathay is great. This chick goes over the details if you're interested. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGr5ZBawDeUI do agree with the people that say the lore is really really badly written. They are a terrible mary sue in the writing.
working on my pig, who else here be cranking their hog?
>>96783088mine are in the mail, i think of this while i wait>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7FIiYsVy3U
>>96782558yes and I mentioned her - it's Justine, mother of Kat, whom Felix married later in the series.
>>96783012I have been doing scale modeling. Its fucking nothing.
>>96782585Round bases deserve to be thrown out.
>>96782548>He went mad realising that he was destined to be the Everchosen. I don't see what's not to like.He went mad because daddy Sigmar didn't personally come down to save him and now it's everyone's problem. Not the same. 5e Archaon was fine, he was a devoted follower, not this shitty I'm too cool to worship them edgelord and he was still on his quest so he was a much more open and interesting character.
>>96782591Beastmen are the true chilldren of chaos, which is also why the Chaos Gods give no shits about them; they already own them. They're not chosen they are wholly owned and created from chaos so they get nothing.
>>96780491Pls help.
>>96780491Which is personally cooler to you? I don't know the strict math but if they're rangers you probably don't need to charge them in with great weapons. Axe + shield is decent.
>>96783122Oh my bad, I didn't remember the specific names, just the vague outline of the story. It's been a while since I read it.
>>96780491Do you expect them to be doing damage? Take the great weapons. If you want them to be a more defensive/ranged unit take a shield and forgo the hand weapon because in CC the HW+Shield is effectively 2+ more armour save vs the great weapons. If I were you, I would go HW+Shield to have them be more of a defensive unit relying on their ranged to plink away damage rather than fighting in CC.
>>96782862Patrician advice>>96782864It is my first, I think the sculpts are actually quite charming. Gives me that old school historical feel.
>>96783545>I think the sculpts are actually quite charmingPerfect, the box is a no brainer then. I agree with you btw, I love the old skeleton aesthetic. But I would understand if people who are newer to the hobby didn't. The even better upside is that it's probably the best box available for Old World in a competitive sense because every unit inside can be put in a " meta " list except the chariots. If you don't care about meta then even better. They are such a pleasure to paint as well.
>>96782702I'd say it's a relatively even spread, if we are going solely by the screenshots of people painting. From the official factions the Elves seem to get the least amount of hobby pictures in these threads which I find to be surprising given how popular they used to be, but my gut feel overall is that all factions have their fans here. Ok, Daemons probably have the least amount of players (maybe even 0?) but that's because their rules are dog water and as a personal opinion daemons should never have been their own faction to begin with, they work better as combined arms with WoC.
>>96783560Awesome, it is a deal then. I really dont care about the meta at all, everyone at the club is super chill.
The machine is with us. The future belongs to Fantasy.
>>96783692fuck off
>>96783692Please don't bring up Smegmar outside of their containment thread.
>>96782587>>96782604I'm definitely up for monster mash but I'm too lazy to make two dragons and even if I weren't it just wouldn't look cool to me. I find the idea of resurrecting infantry blocks appealing since it'd (hopefully) feel and play quite differently to what I have currently. The thing is I have no idea if I'd like VC or TK more. Aesthetically I love the skeletons on both factions. TK have a slight edge for me because I like the older sculpts more and they are an officially supported faction. I already play a legacy faction and would like to play something that actually feels "welcome" by the rules writers.
>>96783739Go with TK's and get the box. You can always build into monster mash easily later on. But that box gives you a great start if you're going monster mash or infantry hordes. Bow Ushabti are also great.
>>96783739They used to be one faction, core units like skellies are shared. If you think about it a bit you can get both a TK and VC army in one where you just swap HQ and some units.
>>96783692fuck off, botter
>>96783837Yeah the Tomb King skeletons in the box are the same VC skeletons from back in the day, just with an upgrade sprue that gives them some TK style helmets, weapons and shields.
>>96783692This is just embarrasing
>>96783692Cringe and lame fuck off back to twitter.
Does anyone have the newer e-book version of Life of Sigmar?
Why does autumn always make me want to play Beastmen?
>>96783911Legend* Life of Sigmar is another book.
>>96783914As one season brings life, another heralds death.>>96783911I wish I could help you but I was lucky enough to pick this up at my LGS with the 15% standard WH discount.
How's this for a basic fun learn to play list for TK? Oh, so long as the TK can join the chariot unit. If he can't I'll retool it. Ignore the lores, I'll let the new person decide.Learn TK [1000 pts]Warhammer: The Old World, Tomb Kings of Khemri, Open WarTomb King, Halberd, Shield, General, Skeleton Chariot - 200Mortuary Priest, Wizard [Level 1 Wizard], Cloak of the Dunes, Elementalism - 105Mortuary Priest, Wizard [Level 1 Wizard], Elementalism - 5515 Skeleton Archers, Warbows, Detachment - 7515 Skeleton Archers, Warbows, Detachment - 7530 Skeleton Warriors, Thrusting spears, Shields, Standard bearer [Banner of the Desert Winds], Full Command - 1952 Skeleton Chariots - 822 Tomb Swarms, Ambushers - 78Casket of Souls, Great weapons - 135
>>96783985Looks good, I would bump the archers to 16 tho because as the rules are written with 15 you're only getting 3 shots from the back rank vs 4 with 16.
>>96783997I wanted to do 20s, but detachments can't be larger than half the size of the regiment. Unless I also got that part wrong.
>>96782958>>96782978>>96783000Look lads, I got the two new Beastlords but I'm pushing my boundaries financially. Plus I just wish Gorthor didn't get one shot by a Runefang. We will see...one of my favourite battle reports was Beastmen vs Undead. Beastlord chopped Kemmler's head clean offm
>>96784010Beastlord? more like Basedlord amirite.
