We need to bring back old school sword and sorcery, pulp, heavy metal fantasy. I want barbarians with oversized axes, chainmail bikinis, grotesque monsters, and that whole mix of bloody violence and sex appeal. Zoomers would absolutely love that stuff if they were actually exposed to it.
"Bring back" in what sense? The old stories are still there to read. Plenty of games have been and continue to be released.
>>96780057>Plenty of games have been and continue to be released.Like what?
>>96780060barbarians of lemuria. just go play it
>>96780060Several Conan games. Barbarians of Lemuria and its descendents. Several Traveller based ones like Clash of Steel and Barbaric. Hyperboria.That's just a few things I've happened to download that are specifically in the Sword and X.Now answer the question.
>>96780037I think the closest to it is Lamentations of the Flame Princess, but that's more 'weird horror fantasy' than 'cool Conan fantasy'. >>96780097I think he means, like, back into the mainstream instead of less-popular fringe games i.e. replacing D&D homo aesthetic with something more palatable for straight white men.
>>96780155I think anyone who enjoys Frazetta's Conan shouldn't go around calling other people's aesthetics homo
>>96780155Wizards intends to bring back Dark Sun. Can't wait to see how they pozz it.
>>96780155I don't think it ever was THAT much in the mainstream. It has always had it's dedicated fans, but by this point it is fair to say that it just does not have broader appeal that the pseudo-medieval high fantasy has, and it got replaced by the latter because it is what normalfags want to pay for. Your typical escapist would rather fantasize of being a moral and righteous knight in the castle than a buff barbarian in a might-makes-a-right world.
>>96780272Do you think it's gay to think a big muscled barbarian looks cool? Like does that need to imply homo?
>>96780290Since when? Source? I'd always heard it was too "problematic" for them and they weren't going to do it, and I was happy about that because I wouldn't want to see the result.
>>96780155So just culture war faggotry?
Start with bringing back heavy metal, then. And doing terrorism against Disney, I guess.
The "old school" fantasy ideal you have in your head isn't "old school" at all. It has very little in common with what Howard or the other old school fantasists like Ashton Smith wrote. It was primarily pioneered by Frazettta, a wop who drew BBC porn (not even joking you can search it up if you want to).But people on /tg/ don't even read the stories from the "based pulp writers" they claim to love so much. They're entry level secondaries.
>>96780433>The "old school" fantasy ideal you have in your head isn't "old school" at all.Commie faggot, don't they teach in Commie Faggot School that first you GULAG people who remember history, and only then start rewriting it?
>>96780272Bottoms love muscles sure, but all fags hate grizzled men.
>>96780466Curious how you're an expert on BBC porn, and don't deny being a communist and rewriting history.
>>96780433It is not really that far off from Margaret Brundage's actual pulp art which was hugely influential. Rober E. Howard is on record loving it and some of Weird Tales writers were purposefully writing scenes that would make good Brundage covers. That being said Clark Ashton Smith disliked her art and had different idea of what weird fiction aesthetic should be like, he called Brundage's women looking like "wet nurses" a funny yet tiresome complex.
I'd love to see more post-apocalyptic stuff in this style, honestly. Fist of the North Star, Thundarr, I guess Horizon kinda counts.
Yeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lvs2FzF64o
>>96780037>bring backDid it ever go away?
>>96780480>Clark Ashton Smith disliked her artLOL fag!
>>96780037>>96780060>We need to bring back this thing>Huh, they exist?>>96780155>Closest thing to pulp is LotFPYeah, here, grab a (You), tooReminder this is a filler theead: OP is baiting to pretend /tg/ isn't dead and most of the posts are going to be bumps after initial 12 hours.See you by thanksgiving, when the thread will reach 180 posts and finally, get archived (by accident)
>>96780467>all fags hate grizzled men.?
>>96780762>t. so hetero, he goes full circle into homoThere is being clueles, there is baiting, and then there is being (You)
>>96780507>BASED RIGHT WING CHAD ARTISTDid anyone say this or are you schizo? I have never given a shit about his politics and have no idea what they were.
>>96780365I don't. I just think muscle enjoyers shouldn't go around throwing stones in gay houses
>>96780037Heavy metal fantasy has nothing in common with old school sword and sorcery pulps. Try again zoom zoom.
>>96780057In the sense of cultural relevance and actively produced content, you absolutely autistic fucking mongoloid, dishonestly obtuse retard.
>>96780762Do you know what a bear is
>>96780037Okay, go ahead and promote it, then. Nobody's stopping you.
>>96780060AoS
>>96780762>Fags love men with clean complexion, soft expressions, and handsome faces.You're thinking of women
>>96780037I do like me some scantily clad warriors and even more scantily clad warrior women fighting strange and weird monsters. Also for some reason the sky is never blue in this kind of art.I ran a great game of this stuff last spring using Barbarians of Lemuria. Step one: emphasize The Awesome, and never let the story get bogged down. Makes for great heavy metal adventures.
>>96780060The same games that you could play back then?
>>96780155What value does bringing back into the mainstream have?
>>96781745Okay, so what WAS the Führerprinzip, then? You’ve said a lot about what it isn’t, so you can certainly tell us what it is.
>>96781988It also is great for episodic campaigns that are really a string of one-shots loosely tied together, like Ye Olden Games tended to be. Grand world-saving narratives are all well and good but sometimes you just wanna plunder an ancient tomb and face a lich or something.
>>96782013But yeah, I definitely think a lot of people don't know that they'd love Sword & Sorcery because they haven't really been exposed to it. Getting people interested in older literature can be a challenge, but the art helps enormously.
>>96782019Fortunately most S&S literature is short stories (the novels never quite read right to me) so it's not too hard to convince someone to spare 30-60 minutes to give a yarn a try. Shorter than a lot of TV shows, and more portable by far.
>>96782031And, y'know, power fantasy. Nothing wrong with some good old fashioned power fantasy.Sometimes I wanna tell an epic tale of good and evil, of flawed heroes overcoming themselves to reach new heights, and true love surviving the greatest of challenges.Other times I wanna swing an axe into the face of an evil sorcerer.Gotta have range.
Also this may be intruding on /co/ but go read Savage Sword of Conan, it's fun.
Man I did not realize how many of my Sword & Sorcery saved images actually have tits in them and thus are borderline on /tg/. Gotta look at those thumbnails carefully.
Okay that's what I got for now. Yay Sword & Sorcery, rogues, ne'er-do-wells, barbarians, killers, thieves, and lawyers.
>>96781096Not even the anon you were responding to but why are you so defensive about the fact that Frazetta drew interracial porn? There's a difference between artistic nudity and pornography. The nazis were fine with the former and banned the latter.
>>96780060Trudvang Legends is really good. Try that.
>>96780037As a reaction to what? New D&D? The indie scene is alive and well, and even flourishing. Expand your horizons.
>>96780155What about something palatable for bisexual men? There seem to be a lot of those among zoomers.Eye candy of both men and women.
>>96782167To be honest they need to be bullied back into the closet
>>96780155Yeah pretty muchBring back natural sexuality
>>96782252Nah.
>>96780290See what they did to nu Ravenloft. Black kings and queens, race swapping for formly white characters, slavery removed, and bisexuality is the default.
>>96780155>but that's more 'weird horror fantasy' than 'cool Conan fantasy'.So it is more Conan than Conanesque?
>>96780762>Gay men want... women!
>>96780762I love cool badass rugged dudes and I am horny for dick
>>96780037Conan is at his best when there are no women in his stories (Black River, Tower of the Elephant) or the women are waaaaaay out of the usual bimbo thing (Belit is hot as hell, but she's a fucking boss). Not that SS hasn't its fair deal of sexiness, but using it as cheap as fuck fanservice destroys that. >>96782299Slavery aside that seems appropriate for a dracula-esque setting. Big Vlad himself was a swarthy foreigner and the whole "he's mine" thing was probably as gay coded as you could be in a 1890s mainstream English novel.Of course, the queerness was already perfectly in line with the UK tradition of the literary vampire.
>>96784793>probably as gay coded as you could be in a 1890s mainstream English novel.Other than Moby Dick, with Queequeg and Ishmael's relationship being explicitly compared to a marriage multiple times, and no less than two scenes describing them cuddling in bed.
>>96784815Yeah, but those were perverted americans, anon! Not proper manly queen-worshipping Englishmen!What are you gonna do now, use the FRENCH as an example?!
>>96784829Alright, then how about The Picture of Dorian Gray?
>>96784841Still straighter than Drac.
>>96781988That bald chick is so sexy. Where can I see more of this artist?
>>96780369>>96780290All that Wizards did recently was add some subclasses that are vaguely post-apocalyptic-themed, and 5e subclasses are the equivalent of video game skins.
>>96784919That's NGArt7, findable on DeviantArt and elsewhere. They do good Sword & Soul (much of which has boobs and thus is unpostable here)
Anyway the /pol/ in this thread irks me because nobody is posting cool Sword & Sorcery art so here's more Sword & Sorcery art
>>96780037ok? you were always allowed to. No one is stopping you
DCC is /tg/ related, but Sanjulian is great art in general.
>>96780037https://www.rpnation.com/threads/heroes-of-suur-a-swords-and-sandals-and-sorcery-and-dinosaurs-and-lasers-adventure.563395/
>>96785692nah
>>96784793Carmilla is older than Dracula and involves a female vampire sucking titties.
>>96785403Shut the fuck up asshole.>>96785692You too, fag.
>>96781039Based.
>>96781012Actually it has everything in common hope this helps
>>96780037Then run that kind of game with your - Oh wait! You don't have a group! Or games!
>>96780037So you didn't actually want to bring it back, then.
>>96784815Moby Dick is not a gay book it's just extremely homoerotic. It's probably Melville's only straight novelMelville wrote plenty of actually gay books like Billy Budd or Redburn
>>96786858Sounds like cope to me.>>96786894Nah. I just like dick and pussy. Sorry bro!
>>96786894You sound like a real faggot.
>>96782072I like how her boobs are glowing Fire and Ice is a faint memory to me
>>96786926>I like how her boobs are glowingPretty sure that's a tan line, anon
>>96780037We went underground to gatekeep. There is no reason to let it get big so tourist and fags can come in and ruin it like they do to everything else they get their hands on.
>>96786954Why would her tan line be outside her bra?She's glowing
>>96786914Nope. Reply if I'm right.
>>96786920Whatever helps you feel better about your wasted life.
>>96786894>no argumentgrim
>>96787022>Obsessed about what other people are doing with their genitals>Tried to claim that other people have wasted their livesLol big faggot energy.
>>96787017>resorting to 2nd-grade-tier "gotchas"That's how I know I've won. You can reply again, I won't even read it; I've got some dick to suck and pussy to pound.
>>96786896Do you think women don't find men attractive???
>>96787052They do, because they're gay. Nobody's a bigger faggot than a chick.
>>96780037>Zoomers would absolutely love that stuff if they were actually exposed to it.I agree, the dose of testosterone would be good for them.
>>96786993>Why would her tan line be outside her bra?I saw it and assumed she normally wears chest wraps/bandage-style bras, but switched to a more revealing one recently.
>>96785382>(much of which has boobs and thus is unpostable here>Still posts tits and bushBased king
>>96786926Free to watch on YouTube in America right now.
>>96786027Carmilla is literally the work that inspired Dracula, yeah.
>>96784793>>96784815>>96784829>>96784841>>96784887Samefaggot
This is my favourite Vajello piece
>>96781745I mean, that sounds good in theory, but how do you prevent irresponsible people from abusing it?
Do any of the games in this setting have a monk class? Most monks are twinks doing pressure points, a bad ass monk who punches through your skull seems cool.
We're still playing Appendix N based adnd first edition.It's fantastic.
>>96788251adnd 1e, the monk focuses on pummeling while grappling.
>>96788251Do you want an western or eastern monk?
>>96788251I think you'd be better of not phrasing this as monk.You want a guy who uses his fists in fighting.Monk implies a lot more than that.
>>96788429>>96788461Eastern. The marriage of martial arts and zen gets my almonds activated.
>>96788429Eastern Monks are the 'monk' class. Western Monks are the 'Cleric' class. (Maybe Paladin.)
>>96788480Khitai does have some in Conan, but a lot of them are also cultists and super evil. There is at least one bunch of evil monks dead set on summoning some demon that Conan slays in the books - they use quarterstaves and the best of them know some kind of Death Palm technique.
>>96787933In my defense it looked like panties in the thumbnail.
>>96780037>We need to bring backOkay. What are you doing to bring it all back? Are you designing a game? Writing shitty pulp novels? Drawing? Or are you just whining on the internet and hoping someone else does it for you?
>>96782264>Japanese digital video game women with inhuman anatomy>natural sexualityShiggy diggy.
My dudes, dudettes, and other anons, I'm begging you to post cool Sword & Sorcery art instead of whatever else is going on in this thread.Even the OP was optimistic, noting that a lot of younger gamers would love the stuff if it were commonplace enough for them to be exposed to it.
>>96787029Yes, you have no argument and you know I'm right.
>>96789063I think you posted on the wrong board, this isn't /r9k/
Literature:>DMR Books>tales from the magician's skull>swords and sorcery magazine>New edge sword and sorceryMusic: >most heavy metal everRPGs:>Half the OSR>Half of storygames>D&D (pre-3e)I think the only media the average fa/tg/uy even bothers with must be netflix originals, because you seem to literally never be aware of what's currently happening in any given scene and only have a tenuous grasp of the foundational materials.
>>96789085Sorry that I'm right and you have no arguments.
>sceneholy fuckin YIKES lmao
>>96788187Why aren't the vultures eating his wrists?
Is Arduin Sword and Sorcery, Epic Fantasy, or Weird Fantasy?
>>96789228Only literature can be epic fantasy. Epic is a type of poem. Sword and Sorcery and Weird Fantasy are the same thing.
>>96789260Both kinds of Sword and Sorcery, and their relationship with Weird Fantasy/Conan, are a weird thing in general.Sword and sorcery isn't really a thing that naturally exists, it is an artificial conjunct that Lieber and Moorcock invented to put their works alongside Conan.Despite both works, by design, being antithesis of Conan.Than there's S&S based on the Conan illustrations, whose artists admitted that they didn't really read the stories just the premise.
>>96782019The original concept for the >winged monster rider from Cholly and Flytrap was neat. I don't remember the story about how it changed but there was something about this being the original pitch but he kept it for the comic and the movie went with the more recognizable Taarna.
Fun comic, the fully long story is oddly paced but good buddy violent comedy and Cobalt 60 vibe.
>>96788979The boogeyman is not going away. It will just be called something else by retards.
>>96782037>his imagined self still has the comboverKek, the one thing you gotta hand to Vallejo is his sense of humor.
>>96789436>antithesis of ConanThey were that but still weird, sorcery tinted, tightly paced action stories. The main characters were still individualists and men of action, the stakes remained personal (okay maybe not always in Elric's case), the women were still beautiful, the treasure was still tantalizing, and all the wizards were still depraved bastards. That is Sword and Sorcery.
>>96789436How is Leiber's stuff an antithesis of Conan? Elric, sure, he's an explicit Bizarro Conan, but Faf and the Mouser?
>>96788878>inhuman anatomy>literally just not heinous hamplanets and have DD boobaYou closeted poofters and raging landwhales are always good for a larf. How many times have you pulled the InhUmAn aNaToMy thing only for the literal human the anatomy was bodyscanned from to step forward and shit on you publicly now? Hell just the last couple of years we've had the "fake ass" that was a real ass debacle for Marvel Rivals and that jap game about the slutty robot chick who was just one of the animator's girlfriend or something.
>>96789847>okay maybe not always in Elric's caseIt's rather amusing how "Saving the entire bloody universe" was essentially a quick side-quest with little connection to anything else nor impact on the overall story beyond there still being a universe for the story to take place in.
>>96789829Or maybe that just /pol/ retardation.
>>96789932Fafhrd and the Mouser are huge fans of civilization, they are indecent and lecherous, and never become kings. I could go on but you get the picture.
>>96789932Not him and I think Leiber would've been kinda pissed by this definition, him being REH's biggest fan, but Lankhmar runs on being brilliant, witty even, while the Hyborian Age is serious business or tends towards that. And it's still REH's lightest setting, I think.Also, sex. Conan at times seems like a puritan, even if he ends up leaving the girl of the week. The Mouser and Faf are clearly more, uh, having fun.I'll still defend that Hisvin is the greatest SS girl, anyway.
>>96790107>t. someone devoid of brains.
>>96790071>fans of civilization, they are indecent and lecherous, and never become kingsThey retire to an island far away from civilization though?
>>96790659Jimmy Buffett boomer retirement is not the same as being a king.
>>96790071Leiber still is sort of low key critiquing "civilization" though, even if Fafhrd and Grey Mouser are more at home in the city. Several of the stories are about the hypocrisy of the ruling elite, organized religion, or bureaucracy. Hell, there's even a critique of consumerism in there.
>>96789436Which genres are found in nature?
>>96788878you'll never be attractive lol
>>96788189He looks so disgusted that a woman got chained up in a submissive position."By Crom, wench! Free yourself. I'm busy."
>>96792072It is like the new weird movement, something that was astroturfed
>>96790243I agree that the TONE of Lankhmar is a lot lighter than Conan, but my God, that hardly makes it an antithesis, let alone changing the genre.As for the sex part your tastes are actually repugnant death to rat thots, Ahura Devadoris best girl but besides that you're right, I honestly think this makes Fritz truer to the Sword & Sorcery ideal, though. I assume we all know Bob Howard was tragically repressed on that front.
>>96793038That's the frost hoe, he's disgusted by all the shit he had to go through to catch her. This is presumably meant to be the moment before she uses her cheat code.
why are the dudes always naked and oiled up
>>96793595The romans were fond of describing barbarians as being so tough they fought naked or nearly naked. This is pretty implausible for most of the climates they were allegedly meeting these people in, but the linkage between barbarism and nakedness stuck around and was reinforced in the european mind by encounters with various native american and sub saharan african groups.
>>96793595Conan originally used whatever he could get his hands on, Frazetta drew him mostly semi nude, other artists followed Frazetta.
>>96782252your mother drank exactly the wrong amounda lot more or a lot less would have both made the world a better place
>>96780037>We need to bring back old school sword and sorcery, pulp, heavy metal fantasy. I want barbarians with oversized axes, chainmail bikinis, grotesque monsters, and that whole mix of bloody violence and sex appeal. Zoomers would absolutely love that stuff if they were actually exposed to it.It's over grandpa. Let it go. That shit has as much chance of making a comeback as "greaser" style does.
>>96793595>>96793649the oiled up thing is cause smearing yourself in animal fat *does* insulate you britons_hiding_in_bog.jpg
>>96780037Extremely based>>96793807You lost, culturelet
>>96793102That didn't answer my question.
>>96793595it's cool
>>96782001Seriously, me and my friends still play Advance
>>96780480>Margaret BrundageProbably a lesbian, given how she drew men and women.
>>96780094>>96780097World of Xoth is a good contender too. They have a 5e conversion which cleans up nicely, and a PF and Savage Worlds conversions too.
I swear, this thread used to be a lot bigger.
>>96794953It's lost about 30 posts. See for yourself:>https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96780037/Mostly Naziposting and fagposting but I repeat myself.
>>96795204Heil Hitler, you absolute nigger faggot.
>>96780037Traditional games?
>>96795338Yes, pulp fantasy is relevant to trad games due to being a direct inspiration.
>>96793807blue jeans, plain white t, black leather jacket? that never went anywherethe hair comes and goes
>>96793807The greaser style and subculture unironically took over the entirety of American culture and is now so hegemonic that you can't even tell you're a greaser. It's quintessential Americana.Do you even realize that greasers started the trend of wearing T-shirts directly under their jackets and that tees were seen as underwear at the time, to go under your collared shirt? It was meant as an aggressively sloppy affectation and now everybody just does it without thinking about it, that's how hard their aesthetic won.
>>96795342Not a traditional game, enjoy your ban.
>>96795591Nobody wears leather jackets. Did you just climb out of a cryo pod?
>>96794953Getting a ghostpost plugin helps use this place a lot nowadays. Its not as messed up as it was a month ago but its still interesting to see what goes and what stays.
>>96795342So no games?
>>96795846>missing the point this hardI'm sure there must be some way to harness the power of AI to give remedial reading lessons.
>>96795391Yo Way Yo, Home Va-Ray,Yo Ay-Rah, Jerhume Brunnen-GYo Way Yo, Home Va-Ray,Yo Ay-Rah, Jerhume Brunnen-GYo Ay-Rah, Jerhume Brunnen-G.
>>96780037>old school sword and sorcery>pulp >heavy metal fantasyThese are three distinct genres, which occurred roughly 20-30 years apart. Not to say there wasn't cross-inspiration - HEAVY METAL doesn't exist without Pilote, which doesn't exist without Elric and Lankhmar, which doesn't exist without Conan and Lovecraft, which doesn't exist without John Carter, which doesn't exist without 20,000 Leagues and Gulliver's Travels, and so on.
>>96780037Okay. And how do you suggest we go about doing that?
>>96780664>>96780467Fag here. Can confirm.
>>96802592>Okay. And how do you suggest we go about doing that?Not OP, but genuinely you'd just need to get your friends/group interested by recommending appropriate media.Lend them your copy of Conan: The Complete Chronicles, or the first book in the Lankhmar series. Get them to watch Conan The Barbarian (1982), The Beastmaster (1982), Excalibur (1981), Wizards (1977), Krull (1983), The Barbarians (1987), and The Thirteenth Warrior (1999). Start up a game of D&D 5e with the Xoth setting, or run Barbarians of Lemuria if they're happy to learn a new system.
>>96802683Personally I think that any system that doesn't support dismemberment as default feature isn't the right one to run Conanesque adventures. Cutting off the hand on those pesky wizards and warlocks, and then decapitating them is a must.
>>96802683No Deathstalker on your list? For shame, anon. For shame.
>>96802805>No DeathstalkerLook, there's a lot to remember. I forgot Fire & Ice too.
>>96802788>doesn't support dismembermentEh, make it a martial feat/stunt, or something that happens on a crit instead of extra damage. Easy enough to slot in.
>>96802846That's literally useless. That's the problem with most such attempts to graft it on D&D as is. They are either super convoluted or useless. If you do it only on a crit, and instead of extra damage, I'd bet you would also suggest a Fort/Con save to resist, the number of situations in which you would choose to do so, or even have a chance to attempt it, would be minuscule and won't provide even the satisfaction of doing it deliberately.
>>96802900>That's literally useless.You're useless. I even said to make it a martial feat or stunt specifically so that the PC can be active in their attempts. Learn to read, retard.>I'd bet you would also suggest a Fort/Con save to resistNo one said this. Tilt at more windmills why don't you.
>>96803282>>96802900The sword of sharpness in 5e has a 1 in 400 chance to dismember by default, probably because the designers REALLY didn't want players to have to interact with dismemberment. A system which has dismemberment as part of gameplay (and not a rare almost unheard of effect) should make it likely to occur on any hit that deals enough damage, rather than only on an innately restricted set of hits. FATAL had a good idea of giving HP to each body part, although that system also had mundane weapons that did ridiculous amounts of damage (3d10 for some polearms and 1d6 for scissors, which was enough to cut off a head in a single hit), so the hit points given to limbs should be realistic (and also potentially have damage reduction which transfers the negated damage to the target's main HP)
>>96780037Okay. Since you said "we", how do you plan on doing that? Or did you mean you want other people to do it so that you can consoom?
>>96802846>>96802900>>96803282Warhammer 40k (FFG books) have randomized hit locations, but injuries only happen when wounds are depleted, so dismemberment usually ends the fight, or happens before the following bullet in the burst kills for good. From Black Crusade onwards, there is random critical effects (Phil Kelly must have ghostwritten that book) but those are usually not as severe as outright dismemberment.
>>96802683Like half of these aren't even remotely SS (which per se is a literary thing).
>>96807028>>96807058This u?
>>96803282So let's see what we get for a Feat you are proposing:On 1 in 20 attacks you can sacrifice 30 to 50% of its damage to cut off one of the enemy limbs. Meaning on average you would get it around once per encounter at higher levels. In most cases it would be absolutely useless since you have no way to control who actually gets critted and gets their limb cut off. And in cases of enemies with non-standard amount of limbs it's even more fluff over substance.You basically created a flavor feat that would almost never be taken since dealing more damage reliably removes enemy from the fight faster and more consistently than delimbing them on a crit. With a few corner cases around big bosses. >A system which has dismemberment as part of gameplay (and not a rare almost unheard of effect) should make it likely to occur on any hit that deals enough damage, rather than only on an innately restricted set of hits.There is a reason GURPS tracks armor by location. Limb damage without armor is basically a guarantee.
>>96780037>Bring it backJust because you want to see it, that doesnt mean it has to be brought into the mainstream. Make the content you want to see yourself, you have the tools anon
>>96807629nooo but I need a megacorporation to cater to ME and my specific identity!
>>96807499the irony is palpable.
>>96807499That's some Order of Nine Angels shit, you know they're not really NS, they just infiltrate all political extremism movements - including actual communism and political Islam - looking for mentally ill people they can entice into doing pointless terrorism? Basically, off the books FBI subdivision.
>>96807743idk idc I just thought the image is funny and relevant.
>>96807756>idkI can plainly see that you are an ignoramus.
>>96807941And I can plainly see your double chin.
>>96807967Sir, this is 4chinz. People with only 2 chins are not allowed to post, they're contained on Japanese and Russian double-chins instead. I think Plebbiit will be more up your speed.In all seriousness: you have no arguments. Fuck off back to plebbit. I heil Hitler, you suck cocks.
>>96780094>almost 20 years oldgood job retard
>>96808056Conan 2d20: 2015Conan Monolith: 2025You might notice that without his name they wouldn't be there, but here they are.
>>96807629Yeah, but I want some validation that my skin color, gender identity, and sexual orientation are the default and nothing will challenge that.
>>96808056They released a new edition of BoL last year, retard.It's nice, if you're a fan of S&S you should check it out.
>>96811989Sir we already have games for brown gay permavirgins ready for you: its called pathfinder
>>96781000Gays should be stoned, yes.
You will never be white.
Were hyperborean cymmerians even considered white?
>>96817150Whiter than you, shitface.
>>96807058>so dismemberment usually ends the fight, or happens before the following bullet in the burst kills for good.I would think it would, sure a black knight situation is funny but if dismembered doesn't end a fight than dismembered 2ould probably feel cosmetic instead of like someone recieving massive trauma.
>>96789953>How many times have you pulled the InhUmAn aNaToMy thing only for the literal human the anatomy was bodyscanned from to step forward and shit on you publicly now?Not once.
>>96793595Because the people pining after sword and sorcery are, without exception, massive homosexuals.
>>96817311Yes, they were even uninfected by Aryan (aka jeet) stock.
>>96780037I read the Conan and Elric stuff and it was fucking terrible to be honest, better left dead. And that art has always sucked, native american Conan looks retarded.
>>96788878>Japanese digital video game women with inhuman anatomyLOSE WEIGHT YOU FUCKING FATASS IT IS NOT NORMAL.
>>96807501Option 1 - PassiveFeat: DismembermentOn a natural attack roll of 18+ you may choose to sever one of the following from the target; a hand, a tail, a foot, or a limb/appendage which counts as a natural weapon.Option 2 - ActiveFeat: DismembermentAs part of an attack roll, you may declare your attempt to dismember your opponent. Make an attack roll as normal. If the attack roll succeeds, the target may roll a save against (Fortitude/Con/Death). A successful save results in half damage being dealt. An unsuccessful save results in one of the following being severed; a hand, a tail, a foot, or a limb/appendage which counts as a natural weapon.Option 3 - PassiveFeat: DismembermentIf a damage dice of at least d8 or larger rolls 8 or more, the player may declare they are attempting to dismember the target. The target may roll a save against (Fortitude/Con/Death) to resist. A successful save results in half damage being dealt. An unsuccessful save results in one of the following being severed; a hand, a tail, a foot, or a limb/appendage which counts as a natural weapon.Option 4 - Passive (OSR)Feat: DismembermentAny creature with HD equal to or less than half your level is prone to being dismembered by your hewing attacks. Provided you are equipped with a weapon of at least a d8 damage die, creatures hit by your attacks immediately lose one of the following; a hand, a tail, a foot, or a limb/appendage which counts as a natural weapon. For the purposes of Morale, this applies a -1 modifier to subsequent checks.
>>96816783Fine, get ready for your stoning.
>>96817313This alignment chart makes no sense. How is it Lawful to ignore the line and walk past it, and why do NG and LN have the same result?
>>96819183Option 0:Stop playing Dung & Donkeys
what kind of mechanics would make an rpg more "sword and sorcery"?
>>96825880Players that actually try to look for a SS game, mostly, as there are many.
>>96825880Racism and SexismNo HP bloat (that helps every game, hp bloat is a root cause of many problems with d&dogshit).
>>96825880I'd think mechanics for swordfighting and magic would be a good start.
>>96825880Typically, but not exclusively:>Human-only PCs (carve-outs for Sword & Planet e.g. Martians of Barsoom).>PCs do not/can not use magic.>Focus on drama of the moment (personal), not world-saving adventures.>Higher-order denizens (gods, aliens, demons) are unknowable and often immortal, and are not to be confronted (some exceptions apply, such as a demon inhabiting someone's body, the body can be destroyed but not the demon).>Expansive variety of human cultures, drawn from historic examples.>Deadly, but proficient, combat. PCs should be able to hew through many men in a single encounter, but are always just one misstep away from death themselves (High Attack Rating, Low HP/High Damage). This can be achieved a variety of ways, but I've always leaned towards a Wound Track rather than straight HP.>Less focus than one would expect on mechanically-dense weapons and armour. A sword, a dagger, or a club, kills all the same. Likewise, a full harness, or just some leggings and a helmet, offers ample protection (for the PC).>Optional: Some variety of Get Out of Jail Free mechanic. S&S heroes survive impossible scenarios, and from a literary perspective this is simply the author keeping their character alive. In the chaotic world of TTRPGs, things are less certain, so some variety of "you survived the impossible" I feel adds to the S&S aesthetic rather than detract from it. This can be achieved by mechanics such as Meta Currency, or a flat "Every PC gets one 'You survived imminent death' token".
>>96827478>swords and sorcery>PCs do not/can not use magicSo just swords then?
>>96827577Swords & Sorcery typically refers to a setting whereby the heroes don't use magic because magic is inherently evil/corrupting/immoral. It should probably read as Swords VS Sorcery.It's not a hard and fast rule, as with any genre people will project their own interpretations onto it.I fall into the Conan camp of S&S, which eschews magic as evil. But if you're a Lankhmar fan then you would probably allow small amounts of magic like cantrips and such.
>>96827847>if you're a Lankhmar fan then you would probably allow small amounts of magic like cantrips and such.I was going to say this, Lankhmar and other S&S stories admit of the protagonists using minor magical spells or rituals (Kane and Elric are both powerful sorcerers but neither is a central example of the genre), so it should it should be an option for the PCs to have access to minor magic. It's probably best reserved for one character in the group, though, and shouldn't be thought of as a core element of character choice like it is in most fantasy games. Instead it should be weighted so the norm is that nobody has it.
>>96827937>best reserved for one character in the groupAgreed. I always liked what The Black Company did in regards to magic. Most units in the army have one or two spellcasters, but they have incredibly minor magical abilities.>Silent: Can manipulate insects, weak cloaking ability.>One-Eye: illusions, can protect tooth enamel.>Goblin: advanced age, sleep spell.It can also be a matter of scale. Like a true villainous sorcerer in S&S isn't just going around casting invisible knickers - they're consorting with otherworldly entities in centuries-long rituals to change the fabric of reality. There isn't a spell entry in the DMG for whatever heinous shit they're doing. But the underlying factor is that, as a man, they're weak to swords, no matter their power.
>>96782264>>96780155Natural Sexuality needs to win, otherwise we are doomed. Literally.Another thing:One thing that would be cool would be the idea of Black Men -not- as sexual ravagers.Africanos with a paladins code, or even (LOL) a sexual idea of racial purity would be so out of left field in 2025 that it would auto-win if done right.If you can beat the psy-op, you win.
>>96828231Why do you write like a massive queer?
