>What is Exalted?An epic high-flying role-playing game about reborn god-heroes in a world that turned on them.Start here:http://theonyxpath.com/category/worlds/exalted/>That sounds cool, how can I get into it?Read the 3e core book (link below). For mechanics of the old edition, play this tutorial:http://mengtzu.github.io/exalted/sakuya.htmlIt’ll get you familiar with most of the mechanics.>Gosh that was fun. How do I find a group?Roll20 and the Game Finder General here on /tg/. good luck>Resources for Third Edition>3E Core and Splatshttps://www.mediafire.com/folder/b54o6teut3fx6/Exalted_3e>Errata for Third Editionhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1n3ooTmopm3CBxW5jwPp1761xsaIccea-5XIhVM_PQEc/edit>Other Ex3 Resourceshttps://pastebin.com/fG1mLMdu (embed)>Resources for Older Editionshttps://pastebin.com/BXSGuFdQ (embed)>Current Quixalted Extended QE Version (Fanmade Supplement)https://files.catbox.moe/rjgmo5.pdf>Optional Quixalted Exaltshttps://www.mediafire.com/file/jg86yrewnhx2ov3/QE_Reject3eExaltHomebrew.pdf/file>Exalted Demake/Black Vault (Now with updates):https://pastebin.com/Tt1PjuYt (embed)https://pastebin.com/qHRW9N51 (embed)>collection of Exalted Hackshttps://pastebin.com/gtZnycJs (embed)>stuff that might be interestinghttps://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/the-exalted-thread-with-no-original-ideas.317216/Last thread: >>96737261TQ: How important are artefacts in your games? Does the plot ever revolve around one? Are they important to your character or are they just stat sticks? DO you ever go out of your way to get any?
>>96788853>How important are artefacts in your games? Does the plot ever revolve around one?One of the more common story arcs is 'guy with artifact does a silly; solve', up there with 'sorcerer does a silly; solve' and 'spirits being silly; resolve', so I'd say they're important to my games in that sense. I've maybe only once had a game's plot revolve around one, but that was in that the artifact was a ship and it's power was to resolve travel times, and being very fast (especially at crossing large distances or getting to strange ports) turned out to matter and be exploitable several times, and put the party in the position they were in for the story re: running around solving shit all over the ocean-adjacent world.>Are they important to your character or are they just stat sticks?I've tried to make them important as a PC but they did usually end up being exploited for their powers with little regard given to their legend, yes.>DO you ever go out of your way to get any?I have only had mediocre-to-bad experiences with Storyteller-driven dungeon diving. That is to say, the scenario where we hear about a ruin or an explorable place that we'd be able to pick over and find the hidden treasure in - that sort of scenario has always been a bit of a slog for me as a Storyteller and hasn't been very engaging as a player. What I have had go well regularly is the player researching/searching for a particular artifact for their own reasons, and exploring the place where it would have been buried. It being something the player asks for (and usually it's something that drives the overarching story along, because players are out searching for it) makes it much more engaging and fun.
>>96786172Huh, interesting.I think what bounced me off ExD v3 was the Rule of 1s and the Health System/Taking Damage thing.
What's his Great House and Aspect?
>>96789116>the Rule of 1sYou mean shifting target numbers/difficulties, or the rule of 1s specifically? I haven't had any trouble with the latter, it's more the shifting TNs that I've been taking issue with. I noted it as something I consider a problem in both v1 and v3 because... well, Exalted isn't WoD and one of the ways that works is that Exalted cares a lot more about having access to a granular scale that goes up indefinitely. It's the same problem Godbound and Exalted d20 run into where there isn't anything harder than Difficulty 9 / DC 20. It's rare but in Exalted sometimes being able to ask your player to roll ten+ successes matters - because the expected thing is that an Exalt is going to go absolutely bananas and knock down a temple, or deduce the existence of the surviving titan Autochthon in a fresh and censored library, or filch the Scepter of Peace and Order in a hurry. Demake is better than d20 because you can still count successes, but shifting TNs throw it off a lot.>Health System/Taking Damage thing.I've had basically no trouble with that. It's just normal health levels, except you don't take wound penalties unless it's a hit big enough it leaves a mark. Run out of health and you get incapped unconscious, then it takes a few more hits to actually kill Exalted one hundred percent dead because of main character energy. Really, if anything, we've had more trouble dealing with willpower shortages from Block/Dodge.
>>96789271How does Stagger work in practice?It feels kind of cumbersome reading the rules on it.Also I noticed it assumes Antagonists normally have 7 health, would extras work by just lowering it to 3 health?
Is this really the hottest prostitute of the First Age?
>>96790283>Tanned >white hairMakes sense to me. That's peak anime girl colors
>>96790283brown girls are the best.
>>96790283She's top-tier and you know it.
What tier of Sorcerous Working would "Won't age but still dies any other normal way" be in your opinion?
>>96790782That's basically what the effect that the empress is under so I would say celestial either because of her own efforts with the artifact that allows you to reach one higher level than natural to you or with sidereal help.Of course this doesn't work for sidereals because of the nature of their exaltation.
>>96790782that sounds like 1st circle shit
>>96790782Solar 1 with the caveat that the aging is hidden in some item or location that can be discovered or freed and the target will continue aging again.Celestial 2 I'd give you something along the lines of consuming an ancient, very important to elementals, gods, and local mortals, tree or something to consume its lifeforce and extend your life some, idk, 200-700 years?
>>96790822>that sounds like 1st circle shitIncorrect, or the mystery of the immortality of the empress wouldn't be a big deal for the other DBs.
>>96790782That sounds like something you'd need to upkeep, with some downside if you miss it. Immortality that just "works" should be impossible/really hard. I'm thinking of a grove of peaches where if you eat one every week you don't age, but if you miss your dose you take aging penalties until you have another, even though you're still technically not old. Something something the time that would have passed weighs you down or something, lasting until your next dose or until all the time has passed that you stopped.I don't think immortality should be all that rare or hard to get, but immortality where "No one knows how she's still alive" happens should be "basically" impossible. The other types should be rather obvious, oh this person bathes in the blood of the innocent. This person is an undead and stopped his heart and is as cold as the grave now. This person has to take a drug once a week, every week, till the end of time. This person has to take care of a sacred oasis and so long as it's healthy and the waters clean it literally washes away old age. Be a real dick move if someone poured poison in it, a reaaaal dick move.i want to fuck a ghost.
I have too little alcohol in my blood and it's 2am, but here's the ACTUALLY up to date, NOT experimental Solar V14 because it has a loose system hanging around which isn't referenced literally anywhere else, Exalted Demake V3 with manual bookmarks because fuck you I hate myself.Fucking phone net died while at Antagonists so I had to finish that and to Panoply and Warstriders without Sabaton.>https://files.catbox.moe/229v91.pdf
What kind of sex Charms would non-Solars have, theme- and effect-wise?
>>96792151Oh, thanks anon.>Solars v14.It is surprising the amount if revisions that Holden did.>>96792618Celestial Bliss Trick for Sidereals.Celestial Bliss Trick but edgy for AbyssalsCelestial Bliss Trick by twisted (reroll 6s and 5s) for Infernals.Dual Genital Implementation for Alchemicals.Lunars already have everything they will ever need.Elemental Dragon Self-preasure for Dragon-Blooded.
>>96792700To further elaborate, Lunars already get various tentacle Charms in every edition. Alchemicals partially share in this.
What physical and mental effects would an Infernal experience from having an Angyalka as a coadjutor?
>>96791345>Immortality that just "works" should be impossible/really hard.I think immortality and agelessness are different things immortality is being immune to death; the other only stops your aging
>>96793453They're probably always engaged in violin-like finger coordination exercises when they don't need to use their hands but are in deep thought. They might also view the passage of time more neutrally, at least until they find out how much time they don't have in 2e.
>>96794180NTA but a sort of synesthestia would be fitting. Perceiving emotional cues as musical notes, hearing discordant notes when someone lies, etc. Hearing the BGM diegetically too.
>>96789619>How does Stagger work in practice?Someone hits you hard enough to leave a mark (i.e. more damage than your Stagger Threshold), you stagger. This means that you take a wound and go to the bottom of the turn order for the round that you are staggered. Many but not all scene-long charms now also turn off when you stagger and would need to be re-activated. >Also I noticed it assumes Antagonists normally have 7 health, would extras work by just lowering it to 3 health?You could make extras with three health, I personally wouldn't. Seven health is fine for low numbers of chump NPCs, because having low Block/Dodge and Defense/Soak means attacks hit very hard. We have battlegroups rules to resolve large groups of NPCs.
>>96790782>"Won't age but still dies any other normal way"Ambition 2 Terrestrial Working involving mutating yourself to take on the traits of some naturally ageless thing, if we assume that age is a purely physical thing, which some sorcerers probably think it is. The Storyteller should give this some visual indication. We know that age isn't purely physical in Exalted though, and that the soul has something to do with it, so it's probably Ambition 1 or 2 Celestial if you don't want to suddenly turn to ash when your mystical lifespan meter runs out or have your soul splinter and become deranged over time.>>96790848>Incorrect, or the mystery of the immortality of the empress wouldn't be a big deal for the other DBs.It shouldn't be if the other DBs have a single dot of intelligence in their collective heads. This sounds like 3e having dogshit writing and making everybody into drooling retards to fuel a narrative to me. There are many, many ways that the Empress could be immortal and a very simple one would be to just have a hearthstone or artifact that makes her immortal.>>96791345>I'm thinking of a grove of peaches where if you eat one every week you don't age, but if you miss your dose you take aging penalties until you have another, even though you're still technically not old.That's 3e thaumaturgy-tier shit. Terrestrial sorcery can do better. They aren't chumps.
>>96794336Low dot social merits are dogwater, mid-dot social merits are good but in chargen (which is the only time you get to easily choose social merits in this manner) it's easier to go from 3-5 than it is to pick up three 3-dot merits, and 5-dot social merits are easily worth three 3-dot social merits. Ultimately, the way social merits are given in 3e specifically makes min-maxing social merits for the highest dot ratings possible almost strictly better than spreading them out. Also, it's much easier on the Storyteller to have smaller numbers of more powerful merits, especially coming out of chargen when there's a lot of new stuff to remember and not much time to engage with it.In 2e it's a little more complex because high ratings in social backgrounds get you a lot of attention from the Wyld Hunt, but you weren't asking about that.
>Archerysissies>Terrified of anything they can't run and hide from>Brawlgins>Punch things with bare hands, whine fists are underpowered>Martial Artscels>Not a real ability>Meleechads>Male human fighter>Throwngods>Choose the dumbest weapons in game and stupidest way to fight, just keep winning.
>>96794594>>Throwngods>>Choose the dumbest weapons in game and stupidest way to fight, just keep winning.The funny thing about Thrown is finding decent weapons. Half the time you're just throwing improvised shit and the other half the time 90% of your strategy is caltrops and hand grenades.
>>96794594I respect the commitment to such a shitty design decision.
>>96794336Quality of Merits will trump quantity of merits in the vast majority of cases.
>>96790782Something like that shouldn't work in Creation given that even the Peaches of Immortality don't achieve that.
>>96794336Each dot of a merit is exponentially better than the previous dot. It's a pretty easy calculation to work out which is better when you compare taking one plus one plus one to one times two times two.
>>96794594>fists are underpoweredBait used to be believable.
>>96795943>Bait used to be believable.It's a 2e thing, mostly. It does still happen in 3e sometimes.
>>96796279Resistance + Brawl is really good for Solars
What are general opinion in Exalted Essence mechanics? I'be looking for something simpler I can run in PbP on Discord. I've aso been weighting on trying Demake and other hacks. Which would you guys recomend?
>>96796325>ResistanceNah>Brawl Yeah, but only in the 1v1
>>96796550>Resistance>NahLet me guess, you're sure to win because your speed is superior?
>>96796387>What are general opinion in Exalted Essence mechanics?Good, relatively easy to get into and with a little depth of mastery to explore. The progression system is a little wild and you'll have way too many milestones if you run it as-written. Social works well. Most of my early complaints were honestly about how it capped out hard at E2/E3-ish, but now there's more of an endgame written and places for characters to go mechanically it's a bit more workable. It's main flaw is that it's very soft and lenient and do-what-you-wanna-do, especially if the players cooperate rather than conflict. Teamwork is overpowered and especially so in combat.>I've aso been weighting on trying Demake and other hacks.Good ruleset. The dot-based charm system is way better than even mainline trees and Essence's relatively flat charm access, giving weight to higher-power charms by making them cost more instead of the typical line's method of having higher prerequisites. The combat system is pretty damn good and has more depth in play than Essence. I wouldn't say that it's particularly hard to get into either, though maybe a bit more than Essence (still way better than any mainline).
>>96796616>Let me guess, you're sure to win because your speed is superior?I'm sure to win because my nova is superior. My nova is superior because you've been wasting your time with Resistance when you could've been taking more Brawl (or going into Melee or Archery), and I haven't.
>>96796664Be a shame if that nova you spent a double-digit number of motes and a Willpower point on bounced right off my face without leaving a scratch. :^)
>>96796700>Be a shame if that nova you spent a double-digit number of motes and a Willpower point on bounced right off my face without leaving a scratch. :^)It'd be fucking hilarious to see the impossible, yeah. You're delusional, anon. Resistance does not beat nova. It's wasted xp and if you use it in combat it's wasted motes and willpower too.
>>96796826>Meanwhile in actual play...
>>96796874I have no idea how you plan to survive Crashing Wave Throw.
>>96794327>a very simple one would be to just have a hearthstone or artifact that makes her immortal.going down in quality as the sanity goes up
>>96797246maybe the scarlet empress is still immortal and doesn't have a Gem of Life. Also how many of these Gems of Incomparable Wellness could there possibly be seeing as how it's a level 5 manse.Maybe being attuned to the Imperial Manse makes you immortal but no one really knows for sure. Or maybe someone was sneaking the empress Peaches of Immortality without anyone finding out somehow. I don't think it being a mystery means there isn't supposed to be an answer.
>>96797293>Also how many of these Gems of Incomparable Wellness could there possibly be seeing as how it's a level 5 manse.There's at least one Gem of Immortality from a manse on the slopes of the Imperial Mountain she would be able to get pretty easy access to in 2e, the Ancient Estate. It was introduced as the manse the Gem of Immortality that was offered to Chejop Kejak came from, which he refused.
>>96797061Spirit Strengthens the Skin is right there, dumb-dumb.See also Diamond Body Prana. And since I'm Resistance Supernal I can pop Adamant Skin Technique paired with Aegis of Invincible Might. Keep in mind this is if I'm playing a Solar and thus dealing with Solar Charm bloat because I want to give you a sporting chance. Point is, I've got options niggy.
>>96797363>It was introduced as the manse the Gem of Immortality that was offered to Chejop Kejak came from, which he refused.what an inane proposition, it wouldn't do anything to him anywaydid the people who offered it miss their Sidereal 101?
>>96798263Well there's Rakan Thulio precedent...
How have you used Avoiding the Truth Technique?I can think of some uses like Cassandra style prophecies, but I'm sure that there's much more you can do with it even if it isn't as straightforward as if you were convincing them that you're telling the truth.Just saying "I'm not your boss" and expecting the opposite wouldn't make much sense, for example, right?(Unless it causes them to think you are an undercover auditor or something like that, I guess?)In any case, how have you used it/seen it used?This kind of charm seems like it'd cause a few fun situations.
Apologies for intruding on your thread /ex/ellent/g/entlemen. But do you mind if I ask a metaquestion?I'm from over on /osrg/ and I've heard that your threads have a mentally ill retard who hangs around them and picks fights all the time.I'd just like to check, do any of the following traits match his bullshit?>Uses the following words/phrases constantly: Boring, tedious, even its own fans [Negative statement], It's so bad, what the fuck is wrong with you, piece of shit, shill, boogeyman>Claims there's a conspiracy by a small group of hardcore fans to shill whatever it is he doesn't like and the only reason anyone talks about it/tries to get others to engage with it is to spread the misery>Samefags in an unrelenting and obvious manner, insists it's not him when he's doing the equivalent of wearing a Groucho Marx moustache/glasses combo to hide his identity, doesn't even change his wording>Projects his samefagging onto everyone else while doing so.>Turns up and squats the thread sperging out whenever the thing he doesn't like is mentioned>Immediately starts using/trying to turn around any insults that hit him particularly harshly>Nasty, caustic personality, uncivilized even by 4chan standards>Is generally just an autistic subhuman who picks fights like he's a deadbeat dad in a wife beater who just got his kid kicked out of a birthday party at IHOPPromise I'll leave you to your thread once I have an answer since Exalted doesn't interest me that much. I'm just very curious if we're all dealing with the same hyper aggressive sped or not.
>>96798646No, I'm a different guy.
>>96798528"Please don't do this, or bad stuff will happen", sarcastic confessions and wild goose chases "I saw the murderer, he went that way"
>>96798646Sometimes a shitposter(?) appears, he does weird posting like "you are a cunt that needs to be raped" and argue about semantics in an imperative voice
>>96798953Have you got any examples from the archive? I'll owe you a beer if you can find anything. I've got a nasty hunch.And I also think it might be the same guy, dohohoh
>>96798953I'm pretty sure I'm the one who tells people they need to get raped but I've never been to /osrg/. Maybe he means the anon that keeps stealing peoples jokes.
>>96798953>>96798996Cheers, seems we're dealing with different guys in that case. Thanks for the answer.Enjoy your thread lads. May it always be peaceful.
>>96780237that X will never fuck you is my joke and you know darn well you stole it from me.
>>96798968No, but a similar shitposter was in another thread arguing that Howard had bad prose, and that Tolkien invented Beowulf
>>96799288Was he in any way similar to the retard that turns up any time Night lands is being discussed?
What do I need to wield a two-handed weapon in one hand without penalties?
>>96798528>>96798921I've also used it to put some guys into troubles with thier superiors or communities they were overseeing when my PC got witnesses they were telling the truth but person affected by that charm refused to believe it. Like refusing to believe enemy aproaches thier position from a certain passage. And of other NPC decide to belive PC then seeds of the doubts and mistrust among allies get planted." Don't worry. You can trust your son/friend with that task."Don't just use this charm for one on one situation. Make targets appear to be fools in eyes of others or other way around when everyone belives PC but target is convinced you are lying and just manipulted everyone around.
>>96799288Somewhere, at some point in time, I am going to claim that Tolkien invented Beowulf and I am going to make 100% sure that it's with a group of the nerdiest people I know. I am formulating my bullshit as we speak.You see, clearly, our understand of tropes and memes come from Tolkien. We know about that due to our cultural zeitgeist: reading Beowulf will always come second - therefore our ability to understand it will always be through a Tolkienian(I need a more pompous word) lens. Beowulf inspired Tolkien but Tolkien invented our understand of Beowulf.it's not perfect but I'll get there just wait and see. gonna flabbergast so many nerds.
>>96799497Go further.Make a conspiracy theory of it, argue that because there's only one copy of Beowulf that has ever been found that's proof that Tolkien faked it into existence only to get in too deep and find he couldn't retract it when it came time to reveal it was all a hype campaign for his other work.Refuse to elaborate further unless you find specific historic details that support your argument.
>>96799522bingusinchairsayingperfect.jpg
>>96799365Probably not, since the night land was mentioned and ignored.
>>96799497>We know about that due to our cultural zeitgeist: reading Beowulf will always come second - therefore our ability to understand it will always be through a Tolkienian(I need a more pompous word) lens. Beowulf inspired Tolkien but Tolkien invented our understand of Beowulf.This is a good start, in another thread an anon argued this for the Arthurian myths.>Tolkienian.Normally people use Tolkienesque.
Quoth a certain man:>The Exalted gameline might be anti-Tolkien (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-LOTR series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.
>>96800817I think it is ironic how Tolkien magic is close to the pulps than Exalted's is, this to not give spoilers about Dying Earth.
>>96799393The Powerful Grasp merit (The Realm p.80) allows you to do this but requires that you have the Giant merit as a prerequisite.
>>96798263I always read it as people sincerely wanting it to work, over actually believing it would.
>>96798263>what an inane proposition, it wouldn't do anything to him anyway>did the people who offered it miss their Sidereal 101?Prior to 3e Sidereals were not banned from life extension. Some life extensions did not work on them (most importantly the peaches of immortality), but most still had full effect. The Gem of Immortality would work. The hard 5000 year cap was introduced to immediately set the precedent of breaking it in order to hype up Rakan Thulio, as >>96798397 alludes.
>>96788853Trying to get into GMing ExWoD and after parsing kinda surprising how little it has for healing. Like sure, the Exalts are prob gonna bend most of the setting over no issue unless I get nasty, but I fucking know one guy is gonna be clamoring to be the party healer and clear Wounds mid-combat. I also know for sure he ain't gonna want to be a dinosaur, but Dragon Kings seem to be the only ones who have actually healing charms that aren't for treating yourself. No Ancient Sorcery for it either and diving into Hedge Magic doesn't seem to have a solution either.
>>96803189Exalted has never had good in-combat healing, so it's WAD.
>>96803201Fuck does WAD mean?
>>96803201You could make an upgraded version of Essence-Lending Method that takes it to three dots and lets you offer Willpower and Health Levels too. That's the closest Solars get to in-combat healing in the mainline, though I suppose Instant Treatment Methodology gets close (but the actual health levels doesn't heal faster, it just lets you perform the treatment instantly).Mainline Sidereals have the best combat healing through Many Missiles Bow Technique, which has Holistic Bullet Methodology's secondary effect except that the strange ammunition can create small miracles. One of the most used ones was shooting Life at people, which dealt negative damage. Each of those transformations were typically bought separately, at less than a charm's cost (but they don't use dot ratings, so maybe buying one or two variations of 'shoot a special effect (Life, Fire, Boulders)' as one dot charms might work).Those are the most TF2 Medic Healgun-alike effects I can think of off the top of my head, in Exalted. Combat healing is hard and generally intended to be pretty bad, to make a world where medicine-men treating people exceptionally well can be cool.
>>96801281>six fucking Merit dots for thisLarger than life wuxia + anime + sword & sorcery game my fucking ass.
>>96805097Exalted was better when it sold itself as a dark and gritty anime-themed bronze age world.
Just say you can wield two-handed weapons in one hand if you have Strength 4 or higher and you're not a mortal. Done.
>>96805097It gets funny when you see the size of a daiklave.And the lack of artifact knives.
>>96805341>And the lack of artifact knives.Aren't they called Short Daiklaves or something-fangs?
>>96805251Too fucking true. Nowadays people read something like Manacle & Coin or Savage Seas and think 'grit and hardship, in MY Exalted?'.
>>96805304They did two editions with Strength prerequisites then out with the bathwater it goes.
>>96805433daiklets
>>96803189What are you talking about, nigga?>Instant Treatment MethodologySpend 1 Essence. For the rest of the scene, the Solar can complete any medical assessment or treatment she undertakes, regardless of its complexity, in no more than a minute at most; most treatments take mere seconds.This charm is meant to be combined with wound-mending care technique to allow for healing in one turn and also who said you can't heal yourself?Lunars also have Lick Wound that works instantly.
>>96803189That's kind of to set it apart from D&D. Exalted is a game about consequences and part of the consequences for combat is you get hurt, and wound penalties mean that you suck ass at everything else just a little until you've healed.>>96803231Working As Designed>>96805097Ask your ST if you can change the prereq from Giant to, like, Strength 4 or something.
I like that the Abyssal powerset got a punch-up in this edition. Summoning Silent Hill monsters into existence to do your bidding is kino.
>>96806121I'm just happy blasting people with your eye-lasers is even better now. Can't go wrong with the good old eye lasers in the villain splat.
>>96806121I appreciate Immortal Malevolence not being spirit-killed anymore making it much easier to seem utterly unkillable.
>>96805341There are now artifact knives in the Abyssal book, the generic name for them is apparently "Dire Talons".
>>96806325It was weird to hear that artifact knives crashed with Exalted's aesthetics.
>>96806325Solars have Beloved Adorei. Where's my yandere soulsteel Dire Talon dammit?
>>96806357I hope we get Beloved in essence
Storytellers in this thread, how did you portray Peleps Deled whenever you included him in your games?
>>96807225As a fanatic extremist? I'm not sure how much else there is to say. He's not exactly multidimensional.
>>96807344But that's boring.
>>96807431>How do you portray this character>As his character>But that's LAMMMMEEEEthen make up a new character my fren
>>96807431He's a straightforward and resolved antagonist. He doesn't need to be more than that to play a useful role in a story, and if he was he'd be less useful for the roles he's a good character for, which we often need. We do sometimes need someone who can be unrelenting, who can be decisive and ruthless even to themselves, an antagonist that won't give in if someone asks them nicely and who will cut down anyone who does in a heartbeat. Sometimes you need a guy who can shock and awe the players. Sometimes you need someone who can pressure them and not slip up or back down. Sometimes you need an unreasonable fanatic to break through all the barriers that should reasonably stop them. Deled's good for that kind of thing. If you need him, Deled's always able to gather up some guys and go on a rampage.
>>96807580Oh and by the way this >>96807580 is still accurate whether you're in an Anathema game, a Dragonblood game (Dynast or Outcaste), or a Sidereal game. He does exactly the same thing, but the context you see and use him in changes.
>>96802486no, they never had the option of extending their lives
>>96808622Cite source, because it sounds like you're talking out your ass and I did already say where I'd got my info from. Manual Sidereals pg32 says yes, they could. The exact wording in 1e was in the Peaches of Immortality section on Sidereals pg29, "Sidereals live about 3,000-5,000 years. Even with access to the peaches of immortality, they cannot cheat their final day," and at that time the idea that they would have precisely 5k years (minus lifespan-reducing techniques) was not set. Nothing said precludes other life-extending magic.
>>96808896>they cannot cheat their final daythat seems very clear cut tho.
>>96808622just in general i'd like sources too about sidereals and how they handle immortality.
>>96807529>>96807580>>96807633Strawman villains are boring though.
>>96807431Peleps Deled likes to given sermons on proper behavior to his lessers. He isn't concerned with being exciting or personable as such; that would be a potential sin against the Dragons, anyway. He is very much an "I had fun once. It was awful." kind of person
A Heptagram-trained Dynast-born Immaculate sifu magistrate was teaching a class on The Scarlet Empress, founder of the Scarlet Dinasty.”Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship The Scarlet Empress and accept that she was the holiest being the world has ever known, even greater than the Shogun!”At this moment, a brave, patriotic, Dawn Caste Solar Exalted who had been in 1500 tours of duty in the Scavenger Lands and understood the necessity of the Solar Reclamation and fully supported every decision taken by his First Age incarnation stood up and held up a rock.”What is this rock, Terrestrial?”The arrogant sifu smirked quite Dynastically and smugly replied “It's a piece of yellow jade, you stupid Anathema””Wrong, it is a piece of Orichalcum ore. If you had the Mandate of Heaven you would be resonant with it by now.”The sifu was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and copy of the Immaculate Texts. He stormed out of the room crying those Dynastic crocodile tears. The same tears Dragon-Blooded cry for the "downtrodden under Anathema rule" (who today live in such luxury they can afford interior plumbing and antibiotics) when they jealously try to annex neighboring territories from the deserving Lawgivers.
There is no doubt that at this point our sifu, Peleps Deled, wished he had submitted to Solar rule and become more than a miserable bickering noble in a crumbling empire. He wished so much that he had a daiklave to ritually impale himself from embarrassment, but he had aided the Immaculate Order in destroying them!The students applauded and all accepted Solars as their rightful kings and masters. An eagle named “Solar Dominion” flew into the room and perched atop the Realm banner and shed a tear on the chalk, incinerating it in a golden bonfire that melted the attendants' eyes off. The Oath of Solar Supremacy was read several times, and The Unconquered Sun himself showed up and enacted a decree to reinstate the Solar Deliberative.The sifu lost his tenure, was dishonorably discharged and his manse was demolished the next day. He died of the Great Contagion and went to the Underworld, where he was forged into soulsteel to suffer for all eternity.Glory to the Unconquered Sun.
>>96809738Depends on the villain, really.They have a tendency of being more popular than "nuanced" ones, these in turn are hated because of being hypocrites and whiny
QE Anon, if you still poke your head around here, I had a few questions for you about the Mandate of Heaven system after experimenting with it a bit for one of my players. 1) How does paced leading actions interact with dominion intervals / turn length, particularly for internal actions? Can it reduce the turn length below a Month, or does it just allow you to keep a charm active for (X) turns?2) What does dominion limit break actually do mechanically?3) What is some guidance for deciding trait levels in pre-existing dominions? 4) If performing a trait action, can it benefit from features from other traits if narratively relevant, and if so, is there a limit to how many they can benefit from at once? Also, do leading actions benefit from features in the same way as the trait they are replacing? Thank u if u come around to answering these, it would calm the many schizophrenic voices in my head
>>96809980>>96809993>scenes from Lyta's drug-induced "Illuminated" daydreams
>>96810845Who the hell is Lyta?
>>96811077NTA but the Solar best girl
>>96811077A zealous fanatic Dawn Solar who was born into the Scarlet Dynasty but never became Dragon-Blooded. After being pushed to the side, she became a Dawn during a martial arts exam at the Cloister of Wisdom that went south because two other students had it out for her. Then the Gold Faction whisked her away from the Blessed Isle.You can read about her in Castebook: Dawn (predictably enough) for 1e.
>>96809833I think Deled pretty clearly has fun when he's beating people up. That one piece of fiction with that duel over whether Exaltation is of the Dragons or from the Dragons is written from Deled's point of view, and he's definitely enjoying himself there. I'd even say that it's not clear whether Deled's fanaticism is the cause of his brutality or merely an excuse for it.
>>96812342His excuse made it seem like he would still deny having fun. Mostly, he was smirking because he turned the question of who was correct about doctrine into a game of "who's the better killer", and he won it, so now there was no one to mislead others and cause them to fall from the grace of the dragons.
>>96810025If you're a blatantly evil villain with enough style the audience will love you and the players will love beating you up. Not really hard to figure out.
>>96808896>Even with access to the peaches of immortality, they cannot cheat their final dayWhen even the greatest life-extending thing in the setting doesn't work why would lesser ones?And they never had set max of 5k years, it's until they're fated to die, which can be at max 5k.
>>96812424Sure, fair enough, he'd definitely deny it, even if he is actually having a lot of fun whenever he gets an excuse to hurt someone.
>>96812604>When even the greatest life-extending thing in the setting doesn't work why would lesser ones?They're not the greatest life-extending thing in the setting and I'm not sure where you got that impression from. They're frankly mediocre, since they don't grant immortality. For most characters they only give a few centuries.That quote is also, very specifically, about the peaches of immortality. The same phrasing could be used to say, "Even with Volcano Cutter, Jim Dragonblood could not be defeated," and this would not, in any way imply that Jim Dragonblood is undefeatable.>And they never had set max of 5k years, it's until they're fated to die, which can be at max 5k.I see we are making shit up now.
If two Solars Speed the Wheels on the same project, does it stack or overlap?If a Solar and an Abyssal use Speed the Wheels and Efficacious Hierarchy of the Damned to speed the same project, do they stack or overlap?Say there was a Solar and an Abyssal both at Essence 5, and the Solar was trying to push forward a project that would normally take centuries with Speed the Wheels and the Abyssal was trying to slow that same project with Cunning Subversion Style, does the effect resolve one of their charms first and then apply the other, does it realise they're supposed to be evenly opposed charms and cancel out back to centuries, and does it matter which of them showed up to apply their charm first? Say the Abyssal showed up to a shadowland and the mortals have a plan in place to wither it away with fertility rituals and blessed births over the course of centuries, and the Abyssal does the Cunning Subversion Style because they want to both be subtle and make sure it does indeed take them centuries. This has no meaningful immediate effect, because Cunning Subversion Style can't lower it further once it's hit years. Then the Solar shows up and goes, 'nice plan! let's do it faster!' and Speeds their Wheels. Does it go from centuries to one minute, since the Abyssal did their thing first and the Solar targeted the centuries-long task, and the Abyssal's magic doesn't automatically adapt to fight it? Does Cunning Subversion Style stop it from reducing at all and leave it at centuries, or does it push it back up to years, since that's the max CSS can prolong a task? Do they go to Essence roll-off?
>>96813441>If two Solars Speed the Wheels on the same project, does it stack or overlap?>If a Solar and an Abyssal use Speed the Wheels and Efficacious Hierarchy of the Damned to speed the same project, do they stack or overlap?Simplest route is declaring the better modifier wins.>Say there was a Solar and an Abyssal both at Essence 5, and the Solar was trying to push forward a project that would normally take centuries with Speed the Wheels and the Abyssal was trying to slow that same project with Cunning Subversion Style, does the effect resolve one of their charms first and then apply the other, does it realise they're supposed to be evenly opposed charms and cancel out back to centuries, and does it matter which of them showed up to apply their charm first?Tally them up and substract the Abyssal's effect from the Solar's, any modifier left applies after that. Who applied their effect first doesn't matter, start with the baseline timespan.
>>96812342>>96812424>>96812460The problem with Deled is that he's too one-note to even be an obstacle for the players to beat. He doesn't have anything going on for him other than being an asshole Immaculate. A cardboard cutout of a character isn't satisfying for a player to defeat, without the proper hype a battle is just rolling dice until someone keels over. Even a heel needs building up and a personality you can give a damn about, even if it's a loathsome one. Deled fails at all these criteria.
>>96814958Deled's fine. He obviously has a personality, even if a loathsome one, spo just what you say you want. He's also fine because he doesn't exist in a vacuum but as a part of the Immaculate Order and the broader Dynastic society, and the way other people in his own society feel about him and deal with him is a part of the characterization of said society as a whole.
I've used Peleps Deled only once, it was a Dragon-Blooded game taking place in Greyfalls. I played him as straight-up Judge Dredd, tough-but-fair sort of guy but you didn't want to get on his wrong side because fudging the rules was not an option. The players were assigned to managing a garrison under constant attack by a local Lunar warlord and sporadic Raksha incursions, Peleps Deled was here to check on their progress and whip the sorry-ass outpost into shape. The absolute best moment was when the resident Water Aspect had to spend half his motes and all his Willpower as Peleps Deled grilled him for a progress report and the Water Aspect had to desperately hide he was cutting a deal with the Lunar warlord under the table to contain a Raksha incursion. The undercover magistrate Earth Aspect with ties to the All-Seeing Eye was shocked when she realized the garrison's mortal overseer was Deled's grandson but didn't recognize him because Deled had cut ties with his family before he joined the Immaculate Order.
Anyone got that old post about how Earth Aspect women are the best wives?
>>96816053This one?:>A woman so loyal she goes berserk if anyone even tries to seduce her away from you and keeps every promise to you she's ever made.>A woman who crafts her own discrete armor bikinis and keeps your daiklave polished, and makes you new ones every anniversary>A woman so fucking tough her tits can deflect tank shells and she can dom half of your Lunar wives to a standstill, on her OFF days, plus bear you multiple children with every birth and be ready to fuck again in days.>A woman with senses so sharp she always knows exactly when to lock her thicc af thighs around you and hold you balls deep inside her womb until you fill her with scions, and when to sneak up behind you, grab the ankles of the girl you're fucking and pull hard, burying you as deep as possible while you knock her up.>A woman so brilliant in tactics she can lead your armies by your side or in your absence and turn your entire harem into a perfect morale battlegroup ready to do mass combat on your dick.>Have a sworn sisterhood of DB concubines to bear your children, heck have five, but the Earth Aspect women will out-wife all others.
>>96817243Sounds familiar, but I remember the post in question having a breakdown of Charms that would come in handy for the married life.
Why exactly should I spend my exp on charms instead of just maxing out Craft and making an artifact for every individual charm I care about?
>>96817407If I was your ST and you proposed this I would immediately drop plot on you after plot and make sure you didn't have the breathing room or time to cheese the system.
>>96788853What artifacts have you designed personally, and what advice do you have? Where do you look for ideas?
>>96817407What are some charms you wouldn't be able to use through an artifact? Ox-Bodies?
>>96817265It's generally pretty easy to tell which ones are getting pushed, given the Aspect Abilities cited. (Note: May be different in 1e when War didn't exist and they had Martial Arts instead).
>>96817641This is the kind of really boring answer I assume you’re not looking for, but I once made an ice-rimed bow that turns frozen air into arrows that splatter into bursts of snow. It was literally just an excuse to make a powerboy that imposes escalating movement penalties up to (Essence of wielder) and a token internal penalty. I made it mostly because I was curious to see how much movement penalties actually mattered in pitched combat.I don’t really have any grandiose advice for making artifacts, all I can really say is in my experience it’s best to come up with a relatively simple mechanical idea first and save your grandiose ideas for fluffing it. If you actually want to play the thing at all.>>96810025This. Frollo is great because he’s a hypocrite with a whyboner. Scar is great because he’s a conniving careerist. Maleficent is great because she’s basically a model Infernal Exalt without all the gay “I’ve got a self-righteous cause” shite that 3e is selling for them, and she was ruined when Disney decided to turn her descent into evil into a rape revenge metaphor. You don’t need to be a whiny hypocrite to be a great villain, you don’t even need grandiose plans. You just need great stage presence and presentation.
>>96819209>she was ruined when Disney decided to turn her descent into evil into a rape revenge metaphorBut Infernals get gang-raped by a Yozi's soul hierarchy shortly after arriving in Malfeas.
For Lunars, which caste has the best anima powers?
>>96817407What about prioritizing sorcery instead, what do you have to remember there?
>>96820158In essence it is casteless; in 1e, changing moons were the Lunars' Lunars but the lack of appearance charms was damming.
>>96820158>For Lunars, which caste has the best anima powers?Depends on edition and for what purpose. For theorycrafting Casteless has all of them in 1e/2e/3e so it's them, and in Essence they get the strongest powers for doing anything, even anything the other castes are doing, so it's still them.
>>96820212Even in 3e? None of the other Lunar caste powers compare to the casteless?
>>96820217No Moons are generally the best in my opinion, the -2 to enemy attack pools is generally going to beat out the Full Moon power against peer enemies and the rest isn't useless by any means - the 1/day move is a free point of willpower even if you aren't casting and an easy way to sink your anima after an intensive scene. Casteless can only use the 1/day powers of the other castes, they can't get -2 vision penalty on enemy attacks from No Moon or the soak + movement boost from Full Moon.
>>96819951I don't think that's making a return. (The exact words didn't explicitly say that, but using the term "sharing the Infernal's body"... hmm. Brm.)>>96818652Artifacts certainly wouldn't give you any OBT, but there's nothing that says they couldn't build off of it conceptually to do something else. Several Exalted types have very different Charms that build off of OBT or the equivalent.
>>96820430>I don't think that's making a returnBut neither are the nufernals going to be recognizable. It's getting to the point where the only thing currently linking them to 2e infernals is the name and association with malfeas. There's literally more in common between 1e Infernals and 2e Infernals than 2e Infernals and 3e Infernals from what we've seen so far.
>>96820212Shame about that whole chimera thing though.
>>96821174That's actually a bonus from a theorycrafting perspective. Chimera knacks are real strong. Admittedly the only ones in 2e with Essence prerequisites are Perpetual Regeneration and Perfect Regeneration, but those two blow equal-Essence charms out of the water, and the rest are better than the standard Essence 2 fare. It's mostly an issue of there only being a small pool of them, but the general trend is for stronger knacks than par level Lunars and the lore backs that with how it hypes them up as terrifying threats to normal Lunars such that they have a whole Wyld Hunt but Lunars as the hunters and chimera Anathema dynamic going on in the background.
>>96788853Weekly Update>First DraftSidereals JumpstartFirst steps taken on the Sidereals Jumpstart, another jumpstart designed to give people a taste of what it’s like to play a Sidereal Exalted>Art DirectionInfernals – Sketch feedback sent to artists>LayoutAlchemicalswe'll probably hear about infernals soon enough. the current crowdfund is successful but has a somewhat poor turnout and infernals is set to be next. there'll be an ama on the white wolf subreddit on the 24th (friday) focused on it, so if you want to ask questions do it there if you can stomach itfuck do i fucking hate cloudflare so much holy shit
>>96822242>so if you want to ask questions do it there if you can stomach itMan, got some serious mixed feelings about that one. At this point I'm not even sure if ripping into them for their fuckups is even worth it.
have lunars ever had an ability where they can just throw an animal at someone. i don't mean "get an animal and use the basic rules to throw something" i mean throw a full wolverine at someone who rips apart their enemy.
>>96824553Summoning a spray of wild animals like a stampede out of jumanji seems more like a sorcery thing to me. 2e I think has some charms that lets you become a swarm of something, which could be wolverines possibly.also throwing your animal companion using the throw rules seems almost exactly what you're asking for. just make a charm so they don't take damage if you toss em at people or something.
>>96824553That's just and an Improvised weapon throw and maybe a stunt.
>>96824711>seems more like a sorcery thing...No? summoning a specific spirit animal or or something would be sorcery.>>96824718this describes like 30 percent of charms
An adult human counts as a Heavy weapon for attacking purposes, right?
>>96824777I was thinking the exalted equivalent of taking magic missile but instead of a magic missile its a heat seeking wolverine. In Exalted magic is super extra so I imagine it'd be a lot of them. Or maybe just an absurd range...Falling Star Beast: Yeet an ally into space so they fall at mach 10 at there target ten miles off. They don't take damage because you're using your anima to protect them and they get an initiative bonus.
Why are suicidal orders such a big unattainable taboo? They work in real life all the time.
>>96825449>Why are suicidal orders such a big unattainable taboo? They work in real life all the time.To limit you justg coming up to every villain and just spend a little bit of resourcess to make them kill themselves.And you can still find ways to make people commit suicide you just have to use your opponents intimacies like someone supremely loyal being tols to commit seppuku or tricking them into unsurvivable conditions like "let's resolve this in a contest hunt and kill this cat and you win" and once they agree they discover the cat is a full moon lunar.https://youtu.be/b7Jt8wX_fu4?si=6iCJZxv3YNcGul3wGenerally being able to make your oponent commit suicide is extremely OP.
>>96825534But you can just kill people with a sword no problem. Why?
>>96825543I suppose that even if ou can just murder him it is still more dangerous and incriminating.It's easier to order someone "go to your room, close the door and commit suicide"Than killing him in the middle of the ball and let everyone see you or take the risk of entering his room later and murder him and slip out unnoticed.
>>96825590*laughs in Night Caste*
>>96788853to whomsoever updates, the final version of the Essence Novella Omnibus can be found in f1l3b1n<d0t>n37/6x8xuzzrtv2817ogthough the file itself seems unaltered. it is however a collection of already released novella, so maybe that's just the state of it
>>96827365Uploaded. If I don't hear otherwise I'll jsut assume that the link works.
What's the difference between an Ally and a Mentor?
>>96827496it works, thank you
I know that it is possible to make a sorcerous working that "meddles with the flow of time" of a city sized region. However how much would you guys it is alright to allow it? How much does the Hippocampus Timber Chamber alters time? Do we have examples in 2e or 3e that I missed?>>96803189Make wonders or talismans for it.Solars can do those.
>>96809993>The Unconquered Sun himself showed up and enacted a decree to reinstate the Solar Deliberative.You forgot the part where he declared that Carjack Ketchup was a failure incapable of managing Creation and that no Sidereal should ever listen to him.>>96817407A Sidereal thieving squad came and stole all your artifacts when you were sleeping. They left you alive to farm you for more artifacts later.
>>96825534>To limit you justg coming up to every villain and just spend a little bit of resourcess to make them kill themselves.>Generally being able to make your oponent commit suicide is extremely OP.But that's much less powerful than just making them turn around and fight alongside you, which does work. As a balance limit it's a silly hill to die on.
>>96827570An Ally shows up to fight with you, and helps out when you're having trouble or collaboration would be a good use of time. A Mentor doesn't, but is more powerful/influential at equivalent dot ratings, and instead they do stuff in the background to advantage you (providing you resources and contacts and training and so on).
>>96829293>A Mentor doesn'tAccording to what?
>>96829299Words written in books. Fuck off if you're going to ask a question and then pull shit like this, anon.
>>96829431The book doesn't say that.
>>96829437If you fail to understand something as simple as narrative roles Storyteller may not be for you anon.
>>96829577So it wasn't written in the book anymore?
>>96829580The narrative roles are written in the book nincompoop.
>>96829742None of this >>96829293 is in the books.
>>96822242Just woke up, don't suppose you know when it starts?
>>968102891. Dominion rules take precedence. To affect a Dominion, you need enough Paced and enough Multiple - usually a lot. It could reduce the Interval, but only for the relatively small Dominions. This is by design, as the benchmark is an (X) = 6 First Age Solar being a god-king of his city-state and having enough (X) to directly affect it. Such charms, while possible, thematically represent the "brute force" miracles. If you have dominion larger than your (X), you can't do them at all - not enough Multiple.2.Whoops, I seem to have forgotten to include it. Should be unable to Deny influence for a period of time and acquire a detrimental Feature representing some relevant problem.3. ST's choice, so basically, eyeball it. But you have given be an idea to put this in Advantages somewhere maybe.4. It could. I'd say you can benefit from a maximum of (Trait rolled) Features. Leading actions essentially just lend a Trait to another character, including a Dominion. So the Features would provide their effects as usual, and you could potentially apply more Features if the leader's Trait is higher.So yeeeah, Dominion rules are a bit junky. They do not often come up in my own campaign, so I did not have much opportunity to playtest them extensively. If you have any feedback, it would be appreciated. Dominion rules is just one of the many things I need to refine for the 3.0.
>>96829963>HE'S FUCKING BACKAnd so are we. Glad to see you again, man.
>>9682980317:00 bst, so a bit less than 2 hours i think
>>96827570>>968292931e described it better. An Ally was some dude with a vague but important relationship you had and which you could call on in a pinch (friends being one of the example). Meanwhile a Mentor was explicitly a patron, not an equal and intentionally a more powerful distant and unreliable figure. You picked Ally when you wanted to ensure some dudes would show up to help you, and generally Mentor was the one you picked if, eg. you wanted a senior Exalt to give you training with the commesurate risk that you became their minion. So, Followers = minions, Ally = one/group of relative equals, Mentor = your boss.
>>96830417Thanks! Shit, have to leave at 2. Really I just wanted to ask what the deal is with them getting rid of Devil-Tigers but (allegedly) keeping inner worlds and 3CDs, and demand a straight answer once and for all on whether 3e Infernals are supposed to be Green Solars or the actual champions of the Yozis. Especially with how much more narratively unfulfilling the idea of "Solar Charms, but objectively worse" and nothing more is as a charmset.
>>96830417>>96830452Leave in 2 hours, I mean
How does Sacred Kamilla's Inhalation work when you don't kill an individual character but kill enemies belonging to a Battlegroup?
>>96830612>How does Sacred Kamilla's Inhalation work when you don't kill an individual character but kill enemies belonging to a Battlegroup?It is honestly a struggle to work out what the heck you're asking about.>1eNeither charm nor battlegroups as a concept exist.>2eSacred Kamilla's Inhalation targets corpses, not characters. It doesn't care if you killed them, if they used to be part of an army, whatever. Also, battlegroups don't exist in this edition.>3eIt's not a charm that exists, yet.>EssenceSacred Kamilla's Inhalation targets purely battlegroups, so the question is still nonsensical.>DemakeNot a charm that's been written yet.
>>96830612Based on the fluff for her in Compass: Malfeas, I'd rule it can totally engage in standard mass combat rules.
>>96829803They just announced it, by sending a message to everyone over discord
Talking about it, did they do an AMA for the other splats?
>>96830697Yeah, but do you get one hour of free breath, or do you get a number of hours proportional to the number of enemies you killed? And what is the ratio if that is the case?
>>96829963Thanks for the answers! This clarifies a few things I needed to be able to thoroughly experiment with this system, as one of my players has taken some interest in it, and I've always wanted to try it out anyway. Once I've gotten a better grasp of it, I'll post some feedback for you that will hopefully be helpful.
what sort of effects do you expect to show up in the new infernals book? Radioactive fire is going to be an obvious one and I expect the wish charm to make a come back. Are there any mechanics you want to see Infernals interact with? Mine is Introduce Facts.How do you think Demonic Tattoos are gonna be handled?
>>96820255Why would you say that the full moon's power is generally weaker than the no moon's, additionally what makes the Changing Moon's anima powers a non-factor?
What are the names of Infernal castes in 3e? I keep forgetting.
