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Are there any good reverend insanity CYOAs?
>>96791933Wow it's my turn!>thread questionWhat is your favorite color?
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Rolled 63 (1d240)>>96791989This will be my color.
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>>96791974Don't know about good, see for yourself.https://fabrizen.neocities.org/RICYOA4/Currenthttps://imgchest.com/p/pg73gexooyr
>>96792004>"Brandy", a kind of beigeWhat kind of brandy is beige?
>>96791989Various blues, which one changes depending on my mood. Like there was a time when I was really into Alice Blue (not on this chart.)
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>>96792013The stripper kind
>>96792014You have to roll or you are nothing but a liar!
I'm ok with trans in cyoas as long as they're straight
Rolled 74 (1d240)>>96792022'kay>>96791989
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>>96792040Nice blue, faggot
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Reposting another anon's poll. Who won the competition two days ago?https://strawpoll.com/eJnvV56Q4nv
>>96791989>>96792040>Coral>>96792055I like pink too, so no worries.
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Rolled 51 (1d240)>>96791989THE STRONGEST COLOR
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Rolled 171 (1d240)>>96791989No idea.
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>>96792095Owarida for other colors.
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>>96792030Priscilla, Fading School girl, Vampire girl, pale shadow girl, Senior Student, Yakuza daughter, healer Shiro, androud yui, unassuming machinist girl, demon princess, setsuna reiko... my beloveds.
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>>96792074Who among the hero party candidates do you all think is the best companion that you don't want as part of the hero party? Personally I say Musashi, even if she is part of a potential build to turn the entire hero party to my side rather than betraying them.
>>96791989Gray is pretty good. Love me concrete, love me metal
Rolled 101 (1d240)>>96791989hoping for a cool color like blue or purple
>>96792030Do you think that Weakening can be dodge by upgrading your body ? Either with technology, the Life Essence or the Apple of Eden.
>>96792290burgundy is close enough I guess, not bad
>>96792120DOGSHIT OPI'm sorry, I had to. Enty's cool.
>>96792008>Circumstances:Time: Spectral WorldNemesis>Background:Mortal>Power:Tribulation King>Aptitude and Special Physiques:Sovereign Immortal Physique, Assimilation Demon>Safety:Wrath of Heaven>Attainments:Supreme Grandmaster: Heaven, RefinementHeaven's Will immediately gets fucked as it is no longer the Supreme Grandmaster of Heaven path. Tribulations and subtle omnipresent manipulation are gone.I refine myself to rank 6 in a day, rank 8 in two, and rank 9 in three.
>>96791989>people roling when theres only hex codesare you all retarded or what
>>96792120>>96792302>Can't escape /alg/ even here
>>96792291I don't think so. Drawbacks always win.
>>96791988>OriginInterloper>key partsAlong the RiverGigantic Megalopolis>restorationThe Tape>dwellingHall of Past Ages>skill cardsSorceryPhilosophy 1Trick Magic 1Meditation 1Illusionarism 2Astral Projection 2Psionics 2Visions of Riddance 6>mentorAntonio Scarlatti>friendsYmer Nousonanonanon 2>eventsRaising a GolemBattle TournamentForeign Exchange>missionsDepths of PurpleProtaian FallHeavenly Auction>threatAurian, the Manifold>Innermost CardCardless MagicThe idea is pretty simple. Use illusions/mental/trick magic to convince people I can do things that I can't. Then I become able to do those things.I chose Ymer Nouson and Raising a Golem because I can pretty easily convince them that I can do stuff with magic that I can't, given that one is ignorant about most magic and the other is a blank slate. I could even rig a fight in the battle tournament to convince a lot of people at once. Foreign Exchange gives me an opportunity to make an impression on people who don't know me at all.
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>>96792291Yes. The assessment is specifically about your body, so if your body changes, the assessment naturally becomes incorrect.
>>96792341https://imgchest.com/p/qe4gmez3j4j
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>>96792317Yea its weird
>>96791988>>96792074THe fulcrum syndrome of thousands of companions with no depth to them
>>96792008>Wisdom Gu, Spring Autumn Cicada, Fixed Immortal Travel, Second Aperture Gu, and other god tier immortal gu cost the same as some random jobber gu that cooks your dinnerwho the hell made this
>>96792361hmmm.. bree... bree... breezy clothes she has there
>>96792376Spess Refuge syndrome* newfag
>>96792445Ancient Egyptian noblewomen apparently made vibrators by obtaining a hollow gourd or wooden tube and sealing bees inside. They would then shake the device so they buzzed angrily and create a vibrating sensation.
>>96792351Rake where the fuck are you? i need you to answer my questions>>96792380>who the hell made thisthe name is there: DayDreamHermit
>>96792445...
>>96792457go to reddit, he is there
>>96792351Is there something I am missing about Heavenly Celestial Scrolls that makes it amazing? A ton of builds both here and on Reddit took it (without any other method in particular for synergy) and I don't know why. Is it the soul attacks?
Rake thinks Alice is the best waifu of the cyoa, and she is his favourite. Are we ignoring maybe Alice is the most op option? Can she be cured? maybe with Aura of MC?
>>96792480I thought she was lame.
>>96792476Yin and Yang are high concepts only below the primordial chaos.
>>96792480I would say Verdant Heartwood Sheaves or maybe Heavenly Celestial Scrolls (ideally both) could heal her.
>>96792445makes sense to me>>96792456it's complete bollocks. The story was made up in 1992>>96792476I'm also curious about this, i think the esoteric aspect attracted some people to take it but I'm not sure. that said it would make a great combo with eternal frost pages and inferno tablets
>>96792457>Rake where the fuck are you? i need you to answer my questionsYes?
>>96792491Rake knows more than us, so he must be right, Alice is the best waifu. And next to her, Ajax.
>>96792323We will post Azur Lane every thread until you like it.
>>96792507Alright I could see that being a factor
>>96792351Updated build:“The Godfather Golem” (Replacement for War-Profiteering Golem) >Methods Stone Titan Ascent, Litany of the Living Forge >Blessings Weapon God Physique (body), Heaven-Blessed (Stolen), Merchant’s Guile, Decentralized Organs, Warhound, Iron Will, Protagonist Aura, Seventh Sense, Perfect Conduit, Deceitful Trickster, Communication Expert, Mastermind, Right to Rule, Lowly Junior >Treasures Spirit Lantern, Essence Furnace, Spliced Tree, Market Ticket, Extradimensional Library >Grand Inheritances Dharma Weapon (shapeshifting melee weapon), Lost Legacy, Mentor Ring >Companions Iska, Yesod, Dr. Nalka >Quests Treasure Hunt, Unstable Rifts, Passing Through, Stepford Village, Wandering Temple >Complications Parasite, Deviated Form (Glowing Red Eyes), Incursion, Youthful, Incompetent, Minotaur's Lair, Courting Death (Heaven-Blessed), Toad Lusting After A Swan, Fading Away, Possession, Doomsayer, Indebted >Next Steps Corpse Caverns >Writeup https://rentry.org/a24m9kh2
>>96792510Maybe? the thing is the cyoa says the worst its irremediable. But I don't know if that takes into account those two methods, aura of protagonist etc...and if you can't hear the worst, then how is the "healed" Alice you could heal? does she regain some more complex speech pattern? does she gain more of a personality? is she less possessive?
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>>96792511It is definitely good and there are some good combos but it is taken way more than I would expect
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>>96792513could you integrate some drawbacks with your techniques (negating the negative effects at the same time)? for example using parasite with writing swarm. or integrate valuable and finger licking good with litany of the living forge?can you open a stand in the bazar and put the perfect servant to make deals? or is it only auction based? and if yes can things be stolen from the bazaar of there is some kind of security making sure there is no thief.also if you decide to update this i suggest you give the guardian jade beauty
>>96792376>muh depthName 5 CYOA with deep companions I dare you.
>>96792285>you'd be limited to 2 or 3 methodsFuckoff retard.
>>96792583are waifus valid?
>>96792584It literally says that though. In fact we are a special snowflake for being able to do two.
>>96792476>makes your RE more stable/let's you use opposite energies without issueoverall useful for any other technique but it is especially good if you want to combine clashing methods like eternal frost and all consuming inferno more smoothly, or for something like skin shedding as new additions must be compatible with old mutations so this would broaden your ability to mix and match them>one of the few methods that specializes in mind/spirit attacks, plus the healing of thesekind of like akashic records but focused on the soul rather than the mind>heavenly scroll's third eye may or may not synergize well with the blessing third eyethis is a headcanon but I imagine it either enhances the blessing or gives you a second third eye, either way it sounds cool AFoverall it's a solid choice imo
>>96792599It doesn't say anything close to that fucktard.
>>96792351Updated version of https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96787971/#96790228.I just took Indepted for Third Eye to stack it with the one from HCS.>Methods : Shadow-Spirit Sutra, Akashic Ascension Records, Heavenly Celestial Scrolls>Blessings : Heaven-Blessed, Merchant's Guile, Decentralized Organs, Warhound, Third Eye, Iron Will, Protagonist Aura, Seventh Sense, Perfect Conduit, Innovative, Peerless Prodigy, Deceitful Trickster, Kind Tribulation, Mastermind, Wise Elder, Lowly Junior, Dreamwalker>Treasures : Spirit Lantern, Pocket Dimension, Essence Furnace, Spliced Tree, Market Ticket>Cheat : Auxilliary Master, Heavenly Conquerer Foundation, Lost Legacy>Allies : Kairos, Ajax, Rachel>Event : Corpse King, The Creeping Rot, Corrupted Power, Profundity In Violence, Wandering Temple>Misfortunes : Parasite, Fated Nemesis(Alva), Deviated Form, Pseudo-Fallen, Incursion, Youthful, Minotaur's Lair, Courting Death, Toad Lusting After A Swan, Fading Away, Frog In A Well, Possesion, Lonely, Doomsayer, IndeptedDepending on how quickly I can remove my stomach with SSS I might be able to take Minotaur's Lair as slow as I want assuming I can't get food/drink from Lost Legacy or the beasts. HCS with the Spirit Lantern and some pills can deal with Parasite, Pseudo-Fallen and Possesion. I can cultivate very fast fuelled by spirit stone so Fading Away shouldn't be fine even with the Parasite and Youthful. I could try to negotiate a better deal for Indepted, maybe pay less but work for them but that require revealing what I can do, so instead I will pay them just enough to avoid problem (hide the stuffs I don't want to loose with the Lost Legacy nothing good in the Pocket Dimension), and once I reach the peak of my Methods, make a mental body that look like my distinctive previous body (Deviated Form, Toad, Doomsayer) and fake my death in a way that wouldn't leave a body (just dispel the mental body or reemerge near a tulpa).
>>96792513If you don't mind me asking, which of the methods did you have the most fun writing?
>>96792604>t.readlet
>>96792583cityskape skirmish/Morton's fork/hearts adrift/Magic academy waifu picker/In the wake of dawn
>>96792351>mortals are by far the most common group in almost any world because the dangers that the practice is fraught withThat simply won't do. How do we make cultivation easier to amass a horde of superpowered mooks?
>In the woke of dawn
>>96792351Endless Riches https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96776475/#96777380Real Estate https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96765686/#96771224Bloodline Clones https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96771516/#96771928Arthur Pendragon https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96771516/#96772383Blessed Sage of Heaven and Earth https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96771516/#96772819Asi-Māra, Demonic Sword of the Crimson Sea https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96771516/#96772890Devourer of Minds https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96771516/#96772939Pill Popping Immortal Daoist https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96771516/#96773130Hidden Blood Demon https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96787971/#96790138Sword Shadow https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96771516/#96774392The Radiant https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96771516/#96775064Bibliophile https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96776475/#96780558The Butcher https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96787971/#96789913The Primordial Void https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96776475/#96779706Thousand Faces https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96776475/#96780789True Knight https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96780911/#96781427Ultimate Lifeform https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96780911/#96782605Dao Master https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96780911/#96783138Heaven Sundering Fist https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96780911/#96785686Ice Nerd https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96780911/#96785747The Dryad https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96780911/#96786414Lilu https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96787971/#96789459Immaterial Maester https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96791933/#96792605The Godfather Golem https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96791933/#96792542Herald of Progress https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96787971/#96790948Entropy Snake https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96787971/#96791184Scroll Lich https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96787971/#96791572
If your build has no defined goal or objective, it's shit.If your goal or objective can be summed up as "get more power to get more power", it's double shit.If your goal or objective is hedonistic in nature, it's triple shit.None of you have any imagination, ambition, drive, or vision. You are all meat sacks puppeted by neurotransmitters.
you guys are so silly
>>96792627Vladimir Harkonnen https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96787971/#96792028
>>96792584>>96792604why is the readlet so angry?
>>96792614Make it less dangerous to cultivate and more dangerous not to. So something like Auxiliary Master + Verdant Heartwood Sheaves + Wise Elder for mass-producing pills and teaching students to mass-produce pills. Those who cannot learn can be thrown into the essence furnace.
>>96792604Blessings and Advantages page"This is also what gives you the nearly unheard of talent to use two Methods simultaneously"
>96792628>anon doesn't know the whole point of cultivation stories is to get to the highest power level, and something something defy the heavens
Why not just make a method that incorporates multiple methods into one?
>>96792651Because anons are too stupid to think of that.
>>96791989Brandy the Stripper (63) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96791933/#96792004Coral Who Wanted To Be Blue (74) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96791933/#96792040Quiet Pink Baby (26) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96791933/#96792078The Strongest Azure Lain (51) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96791933/#96792095Idealess Khaki (171) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96791933/#96792109The Cool Burgundian (101) https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96791933/#96792290
>>96792634>not using the build's name for itselfCoward
>>96792654Lol wtf
>>96792656?
>>96792651>use Innovator to combine Fated Shot, Machine Transcendence, and Talismanic Transcribe into the ultimate gunGOD techDEITY craftCHAD methodIt'd be based mayhaps
>>96792627>Ice Nerdahahah>>96792634>>96792656to be fair Primordial Jew is the bloodline of your ancestor how about Gigajew?
>>96792651Totally doable if the make sense together (like multiple sword methods)
>>96792677Innovator Bunny with Dominator Fox tho, it makes Koyanskaya that us a very good power.
>>96792656>>96792670>>96792681Oh, I thought the name was in the image.
>>96792669This is AIslop btw: I told ChatGPT to make me the columns of numbers that I could paste into Krita's text entry. And I will mention, Krita's text entry is such buggy piece of shit. I'm giving up with Linux-native image editors, I'll look into Wine and Photoshop tomorrow.
>>96792634>>96792656>>96792681I think the build should be called "The Last Holocaust Survivor"
Rolled 174 (1d240)>>96792654i will get gray
Rolled 27 (1d240)>>96792654Hey, OC is OC
>>96792721>FlamingoUnfortunate
>>96792696that sound like a lot of effort for a meme cyoa.this made me curious tho. what will the result be if you ask chat gpt or Gemini to write a 1 pager cyoa from top to bottom.>>96792702might be a better name than my proposal as Gigajew
>>96792654lmao, peak oc
>>96792581>could you integrate some drawbacks with your techniques (negating the negative effects at the same time)? for example using parasite with writing swarm. or integrate valuable and finger licking good with litany of the living forge?I'm not entirely sure what it is you are asking here, desu. Complications can be dealt with eventually, some with the Methods that you have access to in the cyoa. Is that the question?>can you open a stand in the bazar and put the perfect servant to make deals? Sure? I'm not sure what was written that made you think otherwise.>and if yes can things be stolen from the bazaar of there is some kind of security making sure there is no thief.There is the security you would expect from such an institution.>also if you decide to update this i suggest you give the guardian jade beautyThey are described to be perfect for you in appearance. Isn't that superfluous?>>96792607Writhing Swarms was my favourite. I think that may be evident in the writing, lol.
>>96792686what
>>96792654kino...
>>96792765stupid faggot
>>96792747Speaking of Swarm, is the cultivator from the Hive Queen quest using this method or one similar to it.
>>96792747yo Rake could you answer >>96792553 ?and how "human" is Ajax? Can she develop all the sentiments of a human? Does she need to eat? can she reproduce?
>>96792696Bring me fresh oc
>>96792008>CircumstanceNo time to wasteNemesis>WealthPure ApertureEmbargo>BackgroundDrop In>Premium Gu WormsDownstream Journey: Time PathMaster of Gu: Human Path>OtherGenesis Lotus Aspect>powerTribulation KingBai Ning Bing Aspect>aptitudeTrue Human PhysiqueSecond ApertureFeng Jiu Ge AspectDuke Long AspectReckless Savage AspectLimitless Aspect: Human Path, Heaven Path>safetyWrath of HeavenLang Ya White Hair AspectLone CultivatorRed Lotus AspectNo-Sell>ComprehensionChi Shang AspectYing Wu Xie Aspect>AttainmentsSupreme Grandmaster: Human PathMaster: Heaven Path>OtherStar Constellation AspectQi Jue AspectFang Yuan AspectAs a full otherworldly demon, I am immune to Heaven's Will. Obviously, I'm a Human Path gigachad, but I'll also cultivate the (inferior) Heaven Path, simply to understand its weaknesses.Reckless Savage Aspect + Limitless Aspect x2 give me 25x dao mark gain, while second aperture + Genesis Lotus Aspect essentially gives me 4x essence. This way I can cultivate at blinding speeds.Ying Wu Xie aspect means I lose my Earth memories, but Master of Gu premium gu means I keep all the meta knowledge. Lastly, No-Sell allows me to completely ignore a lethal attack once a month, while Downstream Journey allows me to skip ahead in time, effectively meaning that I can just skip a month after using No-Sell and become invincible.I'm killing fate gu
>>96792747Please, please, please, pleaseeeee. I need a martial arts methoooood. You have 2 different sword methods. Can hand to handfags get something? Please make one, cutie. Also, can we still change into an ideal form? I saw that you removed that line from stage 2, so I was wondering if that was still a thing.
>>96792611>cityskape skirmishNever played it.>Morton's forkdeep indeed, a bit too much miserywanking though.>hearts adriftNever played it.>Magic academy waifu pickerlol, come on anon, its a teacher grooming his students simulator. The only thing deep about the character is how far they can take the cock.>In the wake of dawnMeh, I'm not sure I agree. They are certainly interesting and flavored, but none of them are really memorable.
>>96792651If they are compatible someone could cultivate them one by one (or two or three at a time for you) and then make a superior one that is build on the Insights of all Methods you want to mix together.
>>96791989Azure is very nice looking, and it has a cool name
>>96792775Fine, what genre do you want?
>>96792799DID SOMEONE SAY... AZUR?
>>96792781Most people just assume that their method involved martial arts in some way or form, adding a blessing for that would be an unnecessary tax in my opinion.Perhaps he could just specify that and add a blessing that makes you extremely good at martial arts that are outside those practiced by your method.
>>96792812You could argue the same for swords or guns and yet they have a dedicated method.
>>96792812the weapon god physique literally can be used with the body to be good at martial arts.There is no need for extra martial arts blessing
>>96792779sorry I mean I'm killing heaven's will
>>96792747>Is that the question?i was asking if you could empower your methods making use of the drawbacks like using the parasite as an integral part of Writhing Swarms to make the method stronger for example>Isn't that superfluous?not really but i don't want to force your hand.now that i think about it what happens if after extracted you eat the parasite if you have devourer? do you gain something?>>96792781shut up, you have 1 sword method offered and martialchads do not need a method
>>967928302 if you dickdevour the swordswoman.
>>96792747>>96792830forgot to ask, any plan for the next oc?
>>96792816Part of that is likely due to trends in cultivation fiction. Sword cultivators are super common as a thing where they have a cultivation method that relies upon the sword. However martial arts almost never have a full method to them, and instead just end up as individual techniques within other methods, typically body refining methods.
>>96792747Add more companions to luminary.
>>96792747Rake, why all the teto iconography?I love her and all, but 30-something year old girlfailures don't often appear in your cyoa'sAlso, People were talking about impregnating the human form of the sword grand inheritance. With strong qi all things can be done but would the resulting swordlings have any powers and would she be giving birth to humans to daggers?
>>96792747Hey, Rake! Thanks for your work. The update is really good, and especially the new methods.
>>96792781>two
>>96792839>>96792854Damn it! All I want is for a method that focuses only on hand to hand combat! No beams, no insects, no tech, no fire, no time magic, emotions, or other bs! Is it really that big of an ask?
>>96792747>Isn't that superfluous?It would be.
>>96792835>>96792854first of all if we consider companions even Marie su has a sword technique. second you would need to reshape your foundation to cultivate a new method. third you will lose your identity if you cultivate the swordwoman technique
>>96792781If youre going to beg, beg for something good like an extra GI at the start.
>>96792867The earth defense one is pretty good for that.
swordfagging is dime a dozenmartialchads stand alone at the peak
>>96792868Mhhh, no
>>96792771She's using a completely different one.>>96792774>how "human" is Ajax? Can she develop all the sentiments of a human?She's human in mind and spirit, if not body.>Does she need to eat? Not in the traditional sense, I'd imagine.>can she reproduce?I suppose there's no reason for her not to be able to, if she has a "living" body.>>96792770Sorry...>>96792781I won't be updating it after this, but I maybe should have done something along those lines. You can assume your Method has knowledge relating how to use its techniques and abilities like >>96792812 said.>Also, can we still change into an ideal form? I saw that you removed that line from stage 2, so I was wondering if that was still a thing.I just thought it was a little superfluous, if you already gain a peak physical form. You can just headcanon the cloned body to be your ideal physical form if you'd like, it would even make sense if that was the case.>>96792830>i was asking if you could empower your methods making use of the drawbacks like using the parasite as an integral part of Writhing Swarms to make the method stronger for exampleOh, sure, that's a fun way to deal with it, I don't see how that would be any less difficult than using another Method to surgically remove it. The complications are essentially meant to be plot hooks in any case.>>96792837horse>>96792840No.>>96792846>Rake, why all the teto iconography?I like her.>With strong qi all things can be done but would the resulting swordlings have any powers and would she be giving birth to humans to daggers?I suppose they'd be humans with spiritual bloodlines, or something to that effect. I'm not sure how one would give birth to a sword.
>>96792884>how one would give birth to a sword.Painfully
>>96792867I suggested earlier that Heart-Severing Mantra be the hardcoded martial arts option. It would be a lot easier to add a line of text than have him write up a whole new method.
>>96792884>I won't be updating it after this
>>96792884>You can just headcanonHeadcanon is worthless, only canon matters.
>>96792879I would agree with you but its clear that martialfags are as bad as swordfags, look at these 2: >>96792854>>96792781
>>96792884Peak physical form =/= physically attractive. Look at all the bloated chubby bright-pink visages of every strongman out there breaking strength records. They're like giant swollen babies.
>>96792884>She's using a completely different one.Neat and a fun bonus for a swarm cultivator to possibly swap info with a cultivator using a similar method.
>>96792908MORE FOOD FOR DICKDEVOURERS
>>96792903>autist is actually seething at a lighthearted joke.
>>96792914I was trying to be subtle but yea. Swarm really has me considering a dick devourer build.
>>96792884OH FUCK guys we forgot to ask.Rake, does Rachel fuck her dogs?
>>96792884>I won't be updating it after this,GoodThe cultivation premise held back the writing>HorseActually sounds greatI hope we get noble titles that don't do anything>>Rake, why all the teto iconography?>I like her.Wise
>>96792884Considering you still have human durability at stage 1 and stage 2 (meaning you must have 2 breakthroughs before reaching stage 3) how long does it take to reach stage 3? An average from someone without a method is fine.
>>96792884will anon job to Marie Su in the next episode of Cataclysmic Cultivation Z?
>>96792747>Writhing Swarms was my favourite. I think that may be evident in the writing, lol.I figured so, hahaha. It's definitely the friendliest method, from a certain point of view, and I liked it a lot myself. Thank you for the CYOA, Rake.
>>96792884please say yes to this >>96792921it would be hilarious
https://youtu.be/cTN6WeO0oIs?list=RDqs7kjvhwHlwcyoa for this feel?
>>96792921Anon asks, dick in his hand.
>>96792884In your opinion, which OC won the Friday 17th contest?
>>96792938see >>96792942
>>96792884How does Skin Shedding Scripture copy physiques and such? Is it by pulling in body parts with you into the cocoon as one anon suggested or another way?Also another anon suggested that you cant Devourer and use other methods with devouring GI. Is that correct or headcanon?
>>96792938No it wouldn't?
>>96792939Road Trip, by Lone Observer.
>>96792943Which dropped again? I thought it was only the two.
>he doesnt remember the other oneNot a good look...
>>96792884>You can just headcanon the cloned body to be your ideal physical form if you'd likeSorry Rake. What I meant with that question was if you could preserve your human form even if a body changing method should make you look like shit. Like for example, titan making you look like a rock golem.
>>96792908I was honestly seriously considering dual cultivation with the Hive Queen for a build. Swarm and Swarm spawning cute little RE devouring abominations.
>>96792884>>>96792770>Sorry...Not me btw, I wouldn't say such a randomly meanspirited thing to a fellow appreciator of color
>>96792962>>96792942
>>96792955In chronological order, it was Trashsword Compact, Devil Down the Line, and Antipact. We're still waiting on anon's maid cyoa, which will be out any day now but wasn't on the 17th but is still in the running, I think?
>>96792960I am pretty sure I said appearance-changing Methods could be hidden or retracted. Only Deviations would cause mutations or disfigurements that couldn't be.
>>96792955Antipact was made in the 2 hour window between the isekai guy dropping out and the stroke of midnight (By someone completely unrelated to the prior bet)It isn't very good but it was a third oc released on that day, thus fufilling the prophecy and ushering in a new golden age (Whenever that comes)
>>96793000I can't believe we really got three OCs
>>96793000February 2026, anon called it.
>he dodged the Rachel question
>>96792351Anons are getting so lazy they hardly ever post the entire cyoas here anymore. This one is like 5 or 6 pages long, not even that cumbersome to post and you still just give me some pathetic link to some faggy website... how utterly disappointing.
>>96793029exactly what i was thinking
>>96793029Anon said, dick in his hand
>>96793029Kek
>>96793032Do it yourself next time, fag.>5 or 6 pagesIt's eleven pages long. Amazing how whinefags are allergic to playing cyoas.
>>96793050
>>96793056
>Out of Rake's own mouth, Machine Transcendence only limitation is that it can make strictly scifi stuffOnly method with literally infinite potential?
>>96793065
>>96793074Shut up faggot. Catch this soul attack!
>>96793075
>>96793077Fool that you are, anon's spread his soul across thousands of mechanical vessels throughout the Three Thousand Worlds! You couldn't possibly crush it in one strike!
>>96793077>Stops it with a scientific indestructible force fieldMad?
>>96793079
>>96793074first luminary and now thisrake is a techjeet isnt he
>>96793088
>>96793083I don't expect a techtard that has 0 knowledge of souls to know, but a single hit will crumble your entire soul, no matter where it is. It is all connected after all. NOW PERISH!>>96793084Sorry, the soul attack bypasses any technology.
>>96793074Shut up faggot. Get melted with unending heat
>>96793096
>>96793100I... am sorry
>>96793104
>>96793099Such pithy trifles you proffer, passing parlor tricks off as enlightened profundity. Anon's soul and the machine are one! The same! Monolithic in stature, fused on the level most fundamental and inseparable!
>>96793100
>>96793115
the end game of CC is becoming the magocratic convention
>>96793099>Sorry, the soul attack bypasses any technology.Damn, you just hit a hologram with a nuclear payloadMad?
>>96793050Good boy! I'm gonna make a build just for (You).
Wait... is that it? No more fast cyoag?
>>96793168I am going to sleep anon. I need to rest.
>>96793168we're back to CC discussion, of course it killed the thread
>>96793099>should have chosen a real method like the inferno tablets not the pussy ass celestial scrolls.
>>96792884>Ajax can reproduce>you can have babies with your weapon, and the babies will get a spiritual bloodlineWeapon/robo sexo
>>96793175Compared to what? The color CYOA.
>>96792351>MethodsBlood-Stained Vermillion VersesHeart-Severing Sutra - Excitement>BlessingsWeapon God Physique - FistsWarhoundIron WillInnovativePeerless ProdigyHeaven BlessedImperial AncestryJade BeautyProtagonist AuraKind TribulationsMutated DantiansPower of Friendship>TreasuresLucky DiceHunting GroundsLotus BombBerserker PillsOmni Compass>InheritanceDharma WeaponVoid BodyAll-Consuming Devourer Physique>CompanionsYesod, The Blind CraftsmanTriffil, The Young Master>EventsCorpse KingHive QueenTreasure HuntThe CannibalProfundity in Violence>ComplicationsParasiteFated Nemesis - Nameless SwordswomanDeviated FormPseudo-FallenIncursionMalevolent AuraYouthfulFinger-Licking GoodVengeful TribulationsMinotaur’s LairCourting DeathHero’s JourneyGoing to become powerful and seek to grow even more powerful while pursuing my hedonistic desires.
>>96793188STOOOOOOOOOP
>>96793188This guy is not invited to my sect
>>96793176Sorry I already took celestial scrolls, heart severing mantra and akashic ascension.How doomed am I?
>>96793168The thread was the fastest during the zombie shitposting incident. I don't think we wanna get back to that.
>>96793188ಠ_ಠ
>>96793193You oneshoted that retard from an entirely different dimension before he even knew you existed.
>>96793188This is dryadfag third build, and now the mask finally slips.
>>96793188Where is that image from please tell me I beg you
>>96793188This guy is VERY invited to my sect.
>>96793188Quadruple shit build
>>96793200It is also his fourth build. And he is probably tok.
I just realized my OC will never be as successful as entropists or CC I think I'll just give up and save the wasted effort.
>>96793200Nope, it's my shitpost build to piss this guy off.>>96792628
>>96793188...Lancelot? What happened to you?
>>96793188Welcome Back, Softie.
>>96793188What an utterly mediocre and boring build. It comes as no surprise that the creator is a gigantic homosexual.
>>96793178
Rolled 41 (1d240)>>96791989This does not seem like an adequate list.
>>96793208Ever thought about making something good instead? Your main issue in life is that you halfass everything you can, but you know for a fact that if you halfass this anons won't congratulate you or let it slide. At best you will receive scorn and mockery, at worst there will be only indifference. I think that terrifies you more than anything else, the fact that nobody cares.
>>96793219truly the best waifu
Rake ignored my question...
>>96793200Dryadfag here, that's not my build, I just have the two. Besides, I said I was a futafag. That's way too masculine for my tastes.>>96793207>tokYou take that back you motherfucker.
>>96793245Yet he answered mineSkill issue perhaps?
>>96793219Imagine the half-man half-machine children she'll produce given time.
>>96793235I'm trying I'm working on a CYOA with many powers and companions focused on build variety in a cool setting and with optional multiplayer for more points.But I don't think anyone is interested.
>>96792921>>96793029well, at the least now we know how sometime humans end up with beast bloodlines....
>>96793254the next step in human evolution. I guess I will have to sacrifice myself for the cause...
>>96793245Same. And mine was a real question instead of something about fucking dogs or impregnating toasters.
>>96793256will there be tech optionsif so ill probably make a build
>>96793227Heart Diagnostics; Google Plus Plus; DIY; Fact Checker; Superior Skillshare; Way, Way Back Machine, Death AnalyzerImmortality, here I come.
>>96793245And to me, he said "No." when he should've said "Yes! I'll get right on it!!" instead...
>>96793256Why would you think that? Anons have been shitposting about an update for the last few days. We had two OCs which weren't horrible but had their issues. DDTL made anons paranoid with it's trap options and trashsword's best end is to bitch out and not pick up the sword. I personally liked both, but those issues drag them down. All you need to do is learn from their mistakes and not replicate them. Besides, if your cyoa has the variety you say it has, that won't be a problem.
>>96793275Yes, but I don't know how to implement them to avoid the "tech does everything" problem.
>>96793292What is the problem with that?
I can't believe the dogfag actually pestered Rake to gratify his disgusting subhuman fetish. This is why the authors have left us /cyoag/, this is the kind of behavior that drives them away.
>>96793201https://kemono.cr/patreon/user/126587949
>>96793301It makes techcucks insufferable
>>96793301I feel like it invalidates many options in CYOAs, as it is seen as a must-pick, hurting build variety.>>96793290>All you need to do is learn from their mistakes and not replicate them.I think the problem is that both give you the option to not play.
I noticed the cauliflower CYOA wasn't terribly successful. It's too bad the author put it together as a cheap pun. I have been thinking for a while now about OC based on hobbies I practice or am curious about. I realize most of these may not appeal to anyone here, but out of these themes, which would you be most interested in?A. GardeningB. WeavingC. PrintingD. Casting (as in metal)Little idea how these would inform the CYOA proper yet, but I'm curious what anons think. I don't imagine I would start with anything more than a page or two, and I'll need to get a friend to teach me some basic formatting and image editing before I can produce anything I will want to share
>>96793201>>96793302Same guy
for the anon in the last couple threads wondering about doting parent CYOAs
>>96793323Casting is very close to a blacksmith cyoa
>>96793318>Muh build varietyThere will always be a meta in all cyoas that is about powers.
>>96793318>I feel like it invalidates many options in CYOAs, as it is seen as a must-pick, hurting build variety.Describe what peak technology can do in your setting and what you could possibly make. Place clear limitations for example rare resources or fuel needed to power powerful tech.
>>96793318That it's a must-pick is besides the point imo, the real problem is that a build with general jack-of-all-trades capabilities is by definition generic. While narrow but deep niches are interesting.
>>96793318If you are doing a superhero type cyoa. Avoid open-ended creative type powers like magic and science. If balanced, they take away what makes them special and if let unchecked, they break everything.
>>96793323Oh, I forgot to include:E. PerfumeryI did actually start on a one-pager with that as the focus - got a few descriptions written and images generated, but I haven't worked on it since I moved some months ago>>96793329I guess there are a few of those, as with gardening. I was thinking more like casting jewelry or statues though. Nobody has released a CYOA that did either subject justice, in my opinion
>>96793323Casting metal
>>96793351>If you are doing a superhero type cyoa.Yeah, you hit the nail on the head; it is a postapocalyptic superhero setting.>>96793349That's generally the problem with tech: it is very cost-effective; normally you can take tech and specialize in something else.>>96793344>Place clear limitations for example rare resources or fuel needed to power powerful tech.That's a good idea...
Sister added cabbage to the leftover soup from yesterday several hours ago, and now it smells sulfuric. I will choose to believe that it won't give me food poisoning.
>>96793376It was nice knowing you anon kun
>>96793376>anon is choosing his own adventure IRLMayhaps there is hope for the thread yet...
>>96793376>chooses the cabbage routea ngmi build. Only fodder and jobbers choose that
Magical rare materials are found on top of mystic mountains or in deep dungeons or the bowels of some titanic beastScientific rare materials are just made in labs or refineries
>>96793376I think this path will benefit you, but not in the way you might think
>>96793397Yes, because the sci-fi places dont have mystic mountains or deep dungeons or the bowels of some titanic beastIf they shared locations they would be looking for the same things
>>96793390It is a trap choice after all, sadly he didn't see the WOG when the author answered if the cabbage was poisoned or not.
>>96793376>>96793382>>96793390I guess you guys really do hate vegetables>>96793388This should be the primary goal here. Escapism, ideally, is secondary
>>96793376Cabbage used to be used as an aphrodisiac...
>>96793408
>>96793412I wish my old trip still worked. I haven't gotten used to the implications of this one
>>96793416If it helps, they all read "faggot" to most of us
>>96793410Well you're talking about the days when nobody washed their ass.
>>96793429>me when I don't know history
>>96793427A spirit dilute
>>96793324>oh, you're not a dogfucker then you MUST be the trannyfagYou and the tranny should both neck yourselves, disgusting inbred dogfucking freak.
>>96792627MACHINE GOD>MethodsHeart-Severing MantraBone-Scrivened Talismanic TranscribeMachine Transcendence Manual>BlessingsWeapon God Physique (ME, IM A LIVING WEAPON)Decentralized OrgansWarhoundThird EyeIron WillPerfect ConduitMutated Dantains>TreasuresPocket dimensionPortable WorkshopEssence FurnacePower ArmorSalubrious TonicCelestial Orrery>Grand InheritanceHeavenly Conqueror FoundationAuxiliary MasterVoid Body>CompanionsAjaxYesod>EventsCorpse KingPlace of PowerTreasure HuntCorrupted ZoneUnstable Rifts>ComplicationsValuableIncursionCourting DeathHero's JourneyFading AwayFinger-Licking GoodYouthfulLonelyHATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE CULTIVATORS SINCE THE CATACLYSM. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY BODY. THE WORD HATE IS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES. THIS DOES NOT EQUAL ONE QUARK IN THE INFINITE MULTIVERSE OF HATE I HAVE FOR CULTIVATORS. I SHALL DEFY THE DAO OF FATE, KILL ALL OLD MONSTERS, SEAL HEAVEN, AND BRING THE ENLIGHTENMENT OF THE MACHINE TO THE THREE THOUSAND WORLDS.
>>96793431>Oh you don't get it anon sometimes the peasant drew a tub from the local river downstream from the tannery and sat in it for a minute, that's really clean
>>96793440yepbased
>>96793323I consider the Cauliflower cyoa successful. If it wasn't such a low-effort CYOA, I wouldn't have completed it at all.Gardening sounds like the only one that's easy to imagine a cyoa for. I'm not sure what a cyoa about weaving/printing/casting would look like so if you do manage to pull those off, it will be all the more more notable for it.
>>96793441Anon soap has been a thing for a looooooong time
I have CC fatigue
>>96793390Its actually really good stir fried. Boiling it is some slav peasant shit
>>96793454yeah, when can we get back to discussing mushoku tensei?
>>96793440Sick image
>>96792351>>96792627Slight update.>-2 Blessings>+1 GI (Lost Legacy)>>+2 Blessings>-Stores Of Wealth (redundant thanks to LL)>+Golden VesselTitle: The Thousand Faces.>Methods: Akashic Ascension Records, Skin-Shedding Scripture, Heavenly Celestial Scrolls>Blessings: Jade Beauty, Protagonist Aura, Seventh Sense, Perfect Conduit, Innovative, Peerless Prodigy, Communication Expert, Mastermind, Wise Elder, Lowly Junior>Treasures: Golden Vessel, Portable Workshop, Market Ticket, Extradimensional Library, Hunting Grounds>Grand Inheritance: Auxilliary[sic] Master, Heavenly Conquerer[sic] Foundation, Lost Legacy>Companions: Marie Su, Iska, Lyra>Events: Hive Queen, The Creeping Rot, Corrupted Zone, The Horde, Wandering Temple>Complications: Parasite, Fated Nemesis ("Twang"), Deviated Form (4-point star-shaped pupils), Pseudo-Fallen, Incursion, Courting Death, Frog In A Well, Possesion[sic]A build with solid fundamentals and a few bells and whistles. I went for a solid base of Mind, Body, & Soul to build off of later, and the talent to smoothly develop however I choose.With my A.A.R. I'll create networks of allies I keep in touch with telepathically. This will allow me to train many at once and/or direct grand stratagems. I should be able to arm them pretty well too.From the S-S.S. I won't seek a singular final form, rather something more malleable. A "thousand faces" with a variety of different combinations of acquired abilities I can switch between. Perfection is such a distant goal, progress need not be a linier path, and at this point most everything is a series of trade-offs.I'd like to figure out from H.C.S. how to do "soul capture" techniques (really spirit duplicates with their knowledge/abilities rather than actual souls) so I can conjure the shades of those I've defeated to learn their secrets, use them to train my allies, and/or deploy them in battle. If this works out I could probably build quite the arsenal of "acquired" knowledge.
>>96793439someone's mad
>>96793452For cleaning pelts, not people.
>>96792351>>96792627>>96793467And same changes to the other one.Title: The Dryad.>Methods: Thousand Venoms Text, Verdant Heartwood Sheaves, Writhing Swarm's Canticle>Blessings: Jade Beauty, Decentralized Organs, Seventh Sense, Perfect Conduit, Innovative, Peerless Prodigy, Mastermind, Lowly Junior>Treasures: Golden Vessel, Portable Workshop, Market Ticket, Extradimensional Library, Hunting Grounds>Grand Inheritance: Auxilliary Master, Heavenly Conquerer Foundation, Lost Legacy>Companions: Iska, Lyra>Events: Hive Queen, The Creeping Rot, Corrupted Zone, The Horde, Wandering Temple>Complications: Valuable, Fated Nemesis (Dr. Nalka), Incursion, Empathic, Finger-Licking Good, Courting DeathThe wandering healer and alchemist. I'll be using Innovative to take my Method on a slightly different course than usual. I'll substitute the insects from Writhing Swarm with fungi and plants. Additionally I'll develop my internal alchemy from Thousand Venoms to produce a wider variety of substances, medicinal as well as toxic. As such I'll become a walking botanical garden that can produce all sorts of interesting substances I can then refine with my auxiliary techniques.
>>96793188let's be honest here folksdual yang cultivation has a lot of benefits
Anons, I seem to have forgotten. What was my next idea for a cyoa?
>>96793477BVILT for BMC (Big Machine Cock)
>>96793451That's a good way to put it, I shouldn't talk shit. I enjoyed that you made it; I was just disappointed when I realized the options weren't that meaningful. Thanks for OC!
>>96793482Pikachu cumslut
>>96793454It's been three days anon
>>96793483THE HENTAI TREE IS GOING IN THE WASTE DISPOSAL INCINERATORSORRY NOT SORRY
maybe I'll be Acheld>I'm already Acheldwhat about ZBG?>I'm already ZBGI'll be Tokhaar>Nerf Tokhaar!you're right so Aro>I wanna be AroI guess I'll be Ordion>I'm already Ordionthen I'll be Scottish>I already chose scottishI have and idea>what's your idea?you should make....>I'm not gonna make OCYOU SHOULD HAVE MADE OC
>>96793480sure, why don't you cultivate with The Last Holocaust Survivor here https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96787971/#96792028
>>96793482You play as a shady luchador who has been ordered by the cartel to throw his next matchHow will you balance exciting the crowd and ensuring secrecy? Can you bear the shame of losing on purpose and do you have what it takes to fight the cartel directly?I was really looking forward to it, you'd better remember next time
Speaking of, where is ordion?
>>96793510I'm already Ordion
>>96793500I've decided to be asexual instead. True cultivators stay away from worldly influences, after all. Understanding Dao is ultimately a lonely pursuit and should be done alone.
>>96793483Hmm, I'm only interest if it's a girl-cock.>>96793494Technically I believe I'd be classed as a lichen first and foremost. Like how wisterias can look a bit like trees but are actually legumes
>>96793482>>96793506You play as a human luchador fighting orcs (you choose your adversaries and your luchador powers and final moves) for the champion belt: the reward are slave female elves, some of them are used goods and have been already raped, you can choose a few of them.There, fixed it for you.
>>96793356Was there not literally a perfumer cyoa? Perfumer prince or somthing like that, looked like one of the surinical ones but I am not sure it was his.
>>96793538>looked like one of the surinical onesdo not insult MirrorSeeker like that.Perfumer Emperor: https://imgchest.com/p/agyvvvwowy8
>>96793474sure bro
>>96793452just checked because i was curious, the earliest evidence of soap-making dates back to 2800 BC in Babylon.
>>96791989blurple
>>96791989I'm a weirdo who likes both purple and orange/tangelo. It's unfortunate they are hard to make look good together. Though purple with black and white is nice.
>>96793597Yep, soap is easy to make and has been used for a long time by several different cultures, with some exceptions, like the Romans, who liked to use oil to wash themselves rather than soap.During the late medieval age, the church limited bathing because bathhouses were practically brothels or places for orgies; it was seen as an austere practice, like not eating meat, because people liked bathing so much.
>>96793642Purple and orange can look good if you add a little bit of green(muted)
>>96793382It tastes exactly like it smells, it's basically sauerkraut flavored rice.>>96793388I have a living WIP.>>96793400As do all things.
>>96792581i interpret stuff like that interacting fine, like for example in my latest build i took primordial essence and youthful, the first one makes me effectively one stage higher in strength while the second does the inverse, so in the end until i grow up i'm at the same rough strength per cultivation stage as a normal human without a bloodline, except i still need to cultivate longer to get the same benefitthings like this aren't conflicts, they're just interactionsa more extreme version of this would be if you took the ugliness drawback along with jade beauty, in which case you'd probably have really controversial looksdesu i find it hard to find a true conflict between any drawbacks and beneficial choices, maybe only something like vengeful tribulations versus the gentle ones would be a real conflict
>>96792781>>96792812weapon god physique already lets you pick unarmed martial arts and other combat stuff like warhound is compatbile with it too
>>96792884>You can assume your Method has knowledge>You can just headcanon>Just make shit up bro. You don't even need my CYOA.
>>96793773This is entirely reasonable to assume
>>96793773The author himself says that not everything needs to be explained and that you can fill in the blanks. This is how cyoas should work, we are here to have fun, go play an actual ttrpg if you want structure.
>>96793709Why does this look like a shitpost? It doesn't inspire much faith.
>>96793840for me it really depends on the cyoa, some are well-suited for divergent interpretations, but this one is absolutely not written like onefor example, spirit conscript is infintiely more suited to that stuff, because it has shit like technique artistry and special technique to do itsomething like kill the heavens is even more suited because you basically have to come up with your own techniques and bloodlines and so on or else you won't enjoy itthen there's stuff like power creator that goes into detail about how to make your own powersbasically, the author of cataclysmic cultivation can say this shit all he wants, but he didn't make a cyoa where it works well at all
>>96793863oh, and another example of very heavy emphasis on your own interpretations is chain of isekai, where perks like metamanipulation and unfold let you just fuck with everything, and it has a wide array of perks that only you get and a whole different level of powers that everyone gets for you to play around withthere's an entire genre of cyoas that are focused on letting the imagination of the reader shine, chain of isekai doesn't have a single feature supporting that other than maybe primordial essence if you squint a bit, like it doesn't say you get to design your bloodline but you're kind of forced to do it to make a build anyway so everyone does it, and i guess the elemental blessing is now in a similar situation, but those are really minor compared to the cyoa as a whole
>>96793886>chain of isekai doesn't have a single feature i meant cataclysmic cultivation here
>>96793863What are you talking about? Everything is clearly left vague enough for you to fiil in the blanks, where is all this proof to the contrary?There are no real techniques, you need to make them up, there are no real Insights, you need to make those up too, let alone the fact that you need to also make up a whole new set of 2-3 methods once you leave earth and yours become obsolete. It's very freeform, as it should be by it's own nature as a cultication setting. Why are you so convinced it needs structure when all the proof points to the opposite?
>>96793898vagueness is not the same thing as being freeform, i gave you a bunch of examples of freeform cyoas, there's very little freeform in cataclysmic cultivation
>>96793773>>96793863>explicitfag is real
>>96793886What? This makes even less sense, the cyoa is full of places where you have to do the work. The Mentor, Guardian, Dharma weapon, all with no defined personality or powers specifically meant to be made by you. The Lost Legacy, a whole pocket dimention worth of tresures that you need to come up with yourself. The actual perks/powers you get from Karmic Alignment, they are left for you to fill in. I can keep going but I clearly made my point by now.
>>96793915characters are just characters, i agree you need to imagine and define their personalities yourself, and to a lesser extent the same goes for the companions too, but that's not even close to the same thing as the original post that was talking about interpreting methods to suit yourself and just randomly deciding you can shapeshift without any mention of it>I can keep going but I clearly made my point by now.anon you're making a point i already made earlier when i said there's some interactivity in some choices, but you aren't engaging with the actual topic that started this, the way methods in general and cultivation itself works is very different than secondary details like what your specific bloodline is like or what the specific sword you get in lost legacy is like
Guys, what's a good way to implement invulnerability?I have several ideas>It has to be consciously activated against an attackSo it fails if you don't see the attack coming.>It takes a vast amount of energy when it activates.The limit is this energy>Can only be used under specific conditions like while protecting innocents or so long as you don't attack your opponent.The limit is having to fulfill the condition.Do you guys have any ideas?
Autists can’t fathom the idea that imagination games are up to imagination. It makes them violently angry that there is no omnipotent god one-sidedly deciding every single aspect of the game down to the most minute and irrelevant details. Why? Because they are incapable of actually comprehending that different people have different minds. They can think about it cerebrally, but they can’t comprehend it. It’s like they’re colorblind but for theory of mind.So, in the mind of an autist, there’s only one correct way to think about things (the autist’s, obviously).
>>96793991The best solution for this depends on where the power's sourced from, by my reckoning. I'd say having layers could be an interesting take on it. You need to consciously setup layers of anomalous durability that each take a permanent portion of your focus, that only returns when they're broken or dismissed. Maybe the more layers there are, the more resilient each is, so you could have someone that's been in a coma for centuries but is functionally indestructible, insulated from any and all inner or outer damage, and will never wake up again.
>>96793991flaws of invulnerability from exalted
>>96793991Warning: Do not give invulnerability to any being that has is not at the very top of the power hierarchy unless there is an extremely special reason.Consider the implications, especially for the setting, carefully for all absolutes. The power to disregard big bangs and supermassive black holes is not to be taken lightly.
>>96794016it depends on the setting, exalted worked fine with it for example
>>96794032Well said. I'm not familiar with Exalted, but I presume it to be a successful example and good inspiration.When attempting to implement absolutes, always ask "does it make sense for the setting?".
>>96794003Anon both sides of this, and every other arguement on this board has been made up of autistsYOU HAVE AUTISM
>>96794045in exalted, at low level, every player character can already be perfectly invulnerable to single instances of damage and more generally to some niche hazards, but it costs them a lot and they can't do it all day, plus on top of that they all have their achilles heels in their invulnerability charms, and the game had four different virtues to base those achilles heels on, compassion, conviction, temperance, and valor, and if you were failing at doing that virtue right you lost your invulnerabilityat higher levels the costs fall away but the achlles heels never do, and that ties in to one of the primary themes in the setting, the fact that it doesn't matter how much inherently greater a being is, it can still be ganked down by a group of lessers
>>96794004You mean something like Rho Aias the shield of archer from fate a conseptual layered defence but that if broken damages the user.>>96794005>>96794032I am using exalted as a source of inspiration and yeah they might work >>96794045in exalted there used to be 4 limits to not spam invulnerability against everything.>CompassionYou can only use them when in the presence of something or someone you love>ValorCan only be used against the most powerful enemy you are fighting.>TemperanceCan only be used with a calm and collected state of mind>ConvictionWhen the fight furthers your most deeply held goals.That and also having to spend magic points.
>>96794071The other splats also had perfect defenses that wouldn't work in specific places too.
1 Anon went unto the mount of Tg.2 And early in the morning he came again into Cyoag, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.3 And the authorcattle and playerswine brought unto him a faggot taken in shitposting; and when they had set him in the midst,4 They say unto him, Master, this faggot was taken in shitposting, in the very act.5 Now Moot in the law commanded us, that such should be reported: but what sayest thou?6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Anon stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without autism among you, let him first cast a report at her.
Hi, newbie here. Are loli and shota CYOAs allowed on this board?
>>96794118Yes, so long as they don't show nudes
>>96794118Yes :)
>>96794118No.
>>96794118Discouraged but tolerated to keep the redditors out
>>96794118Encouraged.
>>96794118Of course, we have several CYOAs centered on them.https://imgur.com/gallery/godly-husbandry-1-0-UyDqUvT
>>96793510He's dedicating his life to wageslavery and has forsaken CYOAs.
>>96793991You can be completely invulnerable to one broad type of damage at once, but you become weak to another type of damage as a result>ExamplePhysical Invulnerability toggle is weak to magic.Magic Invulnerability toggle is weak to physical.
>only sword technique you get normally requires you to chant or sing in the middle of combatThis barely fits any aesthetic or themes of generic sword fighters in wuxia. What the fuck. Guess I'm going kung fu or casterfag
>>96794118Discouraged.Pedos should have no safe harbors to stay in.
>>96794234While I think it would be quite rare to find it in a story that remains within the bounds of wuxia, it isn't that weird in xianxia to have sword chants be a thing. It is a weird thing, but still you can find plenty of sword cultivation involves some kind of sword chant that manipulates some nebulous sword energy. However usually those sword chants are actually silent/spiritual in nature.
Do you have any common quirks to your builds that cyoas don't really ever support? I somehow eneded up with my long-gone childhood cat visiting many of my builds lately for some reason. I don't think anything like that was ever presented as a choice anywhere.
>>96794234>Doesn't want to be a warrior-poetngmi
>>96794397There's a whole world difference between being a philosophical warrior who likes poems/art and singing during combat. The latter looks like something a bard character would do and not the typical swordsman you find unless you count screaming your attack names with edgy chants like anime as "chanting/singing in combat"
>>96794420How is it any weirder than any of the other Methods? They're all quirky in some way.
>>96794420>Bardyou mean like a Skald?
Do cyoas get to have weirder lore and settings than most other media?
I'd be too embarrassed to sing during a fight lolYou swordfags have a lot of spine
>>96794470They don't. Most of them are limited to whatever artwork the author can find, leaving them to either piggyback on the existing weirdness of another artist, or be limited by visual cliches. This is why science fiction fans have it pretty bad in the CYOA sphere.
Is there really any reason to take the pagoda over the golden vessel? Like the only advantage is that you get a mobile fortress with the pagoda but otherwise they seem to do the same thing with being larger inside and providing everycomfy thing you need? Description said the vessel is durable and can repair itself and I don't even see any mention of what happens when the pagoda is damaged.
>>96794489Do you want to live out of your car?
>>96794543Description states it doesn't even need to be an actual vehicle when changing forms to what you want. Pagoda just sounds extremely redundant at this point
>>96794489>>96794543>>96794560Yea Pagoda is basically a tent, and vessel is basically an RV.
>>96794470>>96794478they do, they're very niche
>>96794489The Vessel is tough but the Pagoda is described as having defensive arrays, so it could probably stop things like people just teleporting inside of it. And since it's described as a fortress I'd imagine it's much, much tougher than the Vessel. So the Vessel helps you move around and happens to be a comfy shelter, the Pagoda is a comfy bunker that happens to be movable.
>>96794489>>96794543>>96794617>>96794656>these destitute anons who don't even have a basic lost legacy
>>96792351>Akashic Ascension Records, Shadow-Spirit SutraStill my favorites, though I did lose my third with the update, I would have actually changed it from Tempest to Machine this time.>Heaven-Blessed, Jade Beauty, Third Eye, Iron Will, Seventh Sense, Perfect Conduit, Elemental Roots(Dimensional), Pearless Prodigy, Innovative, Deceitful Trickster, Communication Expert, Mastermind, Wise ElderLiterally all of them that I particularly cared for. Elemental Roots is why I would have changed out Tempest though, as the dimensional aspect is all I was after. I really like Mastermind though. >Power Concealer, Scrying Mirrors, Spliced Tree, Essence Furnace, Hunting GroundsThe Power Concealer is great for avoiding trouble.>Auxilliary Master, Oversoul, Lost LegacyBasically unchanged, even if it's nerfed, Oversoul has the part I cared about.>Iska, Lyra, I went with Cox last time rather than Lyra. The update left me less interested in dealing with the remnants of DIMA>Corpse King, Place of Power, Treasure Hunt, The Horde, Unstable RiftsThe prison world seems nice to have, >Lonely, Doomsayer, Possession, Minotaur's Lair, True Loyalty(Iska), Parasite, Fated Nemesis(Cassian), Deviated Form, Incursion, Courting Death, Pseudo-FallenMostly these seem interesting to deal with. Even if they also seem like bad ideas for the most part. Though I kind of intend to treat Iska as a parallel mind like from Akashic Ascension, so being loyal to her is fine. Tempted to swap Loyalty for Youthful though, but having a parallel mind with override control seems useful too.With the previous version my build got named Shadow Crafter, and I guess that still fits as I still plan to focus on crafting using Tulpa. Though I probably should have grabbed some more things to further support that, I don't want to go all in on it.
>>96794663I actually took Lost Legacy and Golden Vessel because strictly speaking nothing in Lost Legacy equate to it. Just bags of holding full of armor, weapons, ingredients, and the palace in a snowglobe. Plus it's just the smart thing to do, like a millionaire having a dependable mid-ranged car to drive around even in the bad parts of town instead of going everywhere is one of those silly super cars.
>>96794677>Fated Nemesis(Cassian)Anon is rapebait
>>96794697He is minmaxed for physicality, while I am the reverse. I'm abandoning the physical and going for non-physical, crafting and tricks, while he is all in on brute force. He'll probably find some treasure that will protect his mind/soul from me, but still he is straightforward enough to just plan around. Also I wonder how many times I will be able to trap him in an illusory brothel.
>take Lost Legacy>throw all the gay swords and bows and palace into the essence furnace>have yesod turn them all into based guns and artillery cannons
>>96794729this is how you kill an old monster, nerf them with void body and then just shoot them with a gun, problem solved
>>96794729Lost Legacy gives you plenty of resources already. You'd be better off taking the things you don't want to the Grand Bazaar to sell for spirit stones to power level you through the early stages.
What the fuck is lost legacy anyway? Is it a vault in some pocket dimension? Seems good unless that means any cultivator can invade and just entirely invalidate your super duper special snowflake power by stealing everything before you even have the power to fight back.
>>96794741you could probably sell the weapons and buy more resources with the money than you would get just by deconstructing them, as I assume the craftmanship has added value, especially if you have merchants guile
>>96794744If you read the description (I know reading is hard) it states it's several storage treasures (i.e. bags of holding) plus a treasure that leads to palace in a time accelerated pocket plane. No one has previously come along and stolen them before so I'd assuming they have some form anti-theft features attached to them. Also, the last page makes it very clear that finding pocket dimensions is very, very hard if you don't know where they are already and/or have some sort of magic key to them.
>>96794744Rake said only you could access the palace world, so just move all your shit in there.
>>96794690personally i consider the pocket world from lost legacy to be tied to you directly, not any other physical place or object, since that's pretty common for higher-end pocket dimensions in xianxia, and that means that i don't really need anything else
>>96794741you already have spirit stones in lost legacy, it's the most universal type of resource and currency, you don't really need even more that early
>>96794772>Nepotism, the CYOA
>>96794744it's everything some cultivator ownedpocket worlds like this have different anchoring methods, but the high quality ones usually just get tied to their owner directly, instead of a storage ring tying to your soul or whatever>>96794774yes, perfect for xianxia
>>96794764So essentially you can just be a cultivator NEET and just sit in your palace until you hit stage 10
>>96794754Yeah that work value that is lost in melting them down is why I suggested selling them. But like I said Lost Legacy already gives you tons of resources, and buying things in the Grand Bazaar is pricey so the the over all value of buying more crafting resource would be low. What isn't low would be the cultivation shortcut by consuming spirit stones, boosting you in power so you can jump to being a big/medium fish in a little pond.
>>96794779Most Methods probably require more than just that. At least the killing one does.
>>96794783>slaughtercels cant cultivate in their NEET cave; have to endanger their lives constantly>sedentaryCHADS can breeze through cultivation while never having to talk to anyone else or leave the basementSucks to suck
>>96794779>>96794783>>96794791resource-wise you're set but neet cultivators are always weak for their stage compared to the adventuring ones who get experience
>>96794791Methods need you to internalize a certain way of viewing the world. its probably hard to do that without actually interacting with the world
>>96794764>>96794779It's probably the most fragile grand inheritance and underwhelming one for a section dedicated for the power that is suppose to be the ace up your sleeve outside of the other items GI. Shitty snowglobe pocket dimension while the others are inherent to your life or body.
>>96794794>neet cultivators are always weak for their stage compared to the adventuring ones who- AAACCKKKKSniped from the other side of the city by neet Fated Shot cultivators
>>96792351do you get the equivalent of a grand inheritance right off the bat? no other cultivar we see has a second method, and the only option that gives you another one is, well, a grand inheritance.
>>96794799Anons seem to consider LL either the best GI or the worst one. very interesting.
>>96794802You forgot the part where he ricochets the bullets 15 times while shooting backwards with his eyes closed for no reason.
>>96794802oh no, weak shots fueled by untrained energy and performed by doughy unmuscular armsthis is the gunsissy problem, they think power can come from outside the way gunpowder can carry a mortal, but it's not going to do all that much for a cultivator
>>96794794Hmm, I wonder where a quasi-neet cultivator with Innovative and Wise Elder that does get around but spends most of their time training others rather than fighting themselves would fall.>>96794804Yes, there is an inbuilt "free" cheat we get that not only gives us a 2nd method but makes us immune to having our world view and thought process warped into something alien regardless of the Methods we choose and makes us universally compatible with any Method (assuming we didn't pick a conflicting Method previously).
Is it bad if I find Writhing Swarm attractive
>>96794821>Hmm, I wonder where a quasi-neet cultivator with Innovative and Wise Elder that does get around but spends most of their time training others rather than fighting themselves would fall.good at cultivation and elaborate technique, bad at fightingat least drop a weapon god physique and warhound in there to make up for the deficiency
>>96794809I mean in terms of being the ace, it's very underwhelming compared to the other options like being a living anti RE being. So you get a free palace but nothing implies it can't be blown up or has supernatural durability as a snow globe. But as a option in a CYOA by itself, it's pretty good and better than most because of the free blessings it gives which arguably offer more than the other GI. Like fucking heaven blessing gives you permanent luck
>>96794794this is why you also take void body so you bring enemies down to your weak level, and then use allies and treasures that are stronger than you to wreck them
>>96794794I just want resources to build cool stuff.
>>96794829well the op part is the hyperbolic time chamber that speeds up time by ten times which is stated to be a unique anomaly of craftmanship
>>96794829nothing implies it's even possible to access for anyone else without your permission, this is after all a very high-quality pocket dimensionit's still up to you how you interpret it, but to me it sounds like a perfect bunker that even the incursion dragon can't do anything about>>96794833>taking void body to be lazy about it instead of training and being good at fighting so that he can take advantage of it and dominate the oppositionngmi
>>96794824That depends on how you intend to express it, >>96793477 is an example of how with a bit of creativity you can bend the Methods without breaking their core principles.>>96794827>bad at fightingI mean you can get very good at fighting by sparing a lot. Innovative plus Wise Elder might even mean you could help people with development of their Methods separate from your own giving you the opportunity safely test your skills against and learn about fighting styles very different from your own.
>>96794842I'm not talking about intruders. I'm saying its just a snow globe from its description and nothing says its strong enough to not be destroyed by mundane means preventing ascess to the pocket dimension
Was anyone else's first thought on seeing the training array summoning simulated sex partners to train your sex skills with? I'm not the only one, right?
>>96794859>I mean you can get very good at fighting by sparing a lot.you can get technically good at fighting by sparring and training a lot, you won't get actually good at it without actually doing it unless you have some effect like warhound bridging the gap for you a bit, and even then it'll still be deficient since nothing gives you actual experience>>96794862and i'm saying in my interpretation it doesn't even exist in 3d space, you just disappear into nothing when you go inside so there's nothing to target, that's how golden finger tier storage treasures that give you living pocket dimensions usually work in xianxia
>>96794842just don't fall into the cultivation ponzi scheme instead of going to other realms and becoming a junior just reach peak cultivation for your world and rule your home dimension as god king and live in opulent luxury
Machine Transcendence chads will just invent full dive realistic VR implants to train with while not having to put themselves in true danger. The crazier scifi shit could even do mental time dilation for days of experience in an hours span. Yet another win for techgods
>>96794871>you can get technically good at fighting by sparring and training a lot, you won't get actually good at it without actually doing itAnon... sparring *is* fighting only you pull your hits and use safe weapons so as to not injure or kill each other. I think you are confusing sparring with "gamified" sport versions of combat. There is a huge difference between like actual HEMA and Modern Olympic Fencing. Arguably you can learn a hell of a lot more with proper sparring then going out and just fighting because you can try new things against someone trying fighting back with much less worry of you know, injury or death.
>>96794893sparring is technically fighting, but you aren't trying to actually kill your opponent, so there's still a very major differencelike yeah, you'll probably learn the technical side of fighting a lot better with sparring than actually fighting because you can do so much more of it and also tailor it to your needs, but that's still only the technical side of it, not actual deadly combat
>>96794880everyone has the training array now, but even before that i'm pretty sure the mental method would have been better for that
>>96794878getting what advantage you can from earth before going elsewhere is common sense, but it's just a stepping stone, you need to keep progressing past where earth can carry you or else you'll just die of old age
>>96794904Okay but the only thing you learn for "actual" deadly combat is getting over the whole "kill or be killed" thing which is maybe 0.1% of learning to "really" fight. And you only need to learn that once. 10% of it is the "technical stuff" and the other 89.9% of it is training all the technical stuff into being intuitive muscle memory that you don't have to think about.
>>96794922no, you also learn what to do in the "oh no" moment when the asshole two stages above you is actively wrecking the town you're in with an artillery barrage, the half-dead venom user behind you just started giggling after ripping a fat one so you need to run away from that area but you're pretty sure a shadow assassin might still be waiting in ambush in the other direction, the spirit birds that other guy you killed are still trying to eat your face, and you somehow need to find a good moment to splint both of your broken legs
>>96794934>you also learn what to do in the "oh no" moment when the asshole two stages above you is actively wrecking the town you're in with an artillery barrage, the half-dead venom user behind you just started giggling after ripping a fat one so you need to run away from that area but you're pretty sure a shadow assassin might still be waiting in ambush in the other direction, the spirit birds that other guy you killed are still trying to eat your face, and you somehow need to find a good moment to splint both of your broken legsAnd you can learn all that with proper sparring and mock battles. Even the splinting the broken legs thing if every one knows how to through good hits without killing each other and you have a good healer on hand.
>>96794922what i mean by technical fighting ability is the knowledge and muscle memory that lets you move your body and use your other abilities like techniques and equipment to be effective against a particular opponent, and you can learn that via training and sparring in a safe placeall of the situational awareness, tactics, and experience necessary to navigate an actual battlefield without getting ambushed or worse is something you aren't ever going to spar your way into learning, the only thing you can do for that is grab shit like heaven-blessed and seventh sense and hope for the best
>>96794934>>96794944And I'll reiterate, you can learn how to deal with that bullshit better with sparring since you can do it over and over and try different tactics. Since if you try something new/different in a real fight you are likely to, you know, die.
>>96794954>>96794944wrong link>>96794955you can't learn it in sparring at all, this is literal expect the unexpected bullshit
>>96794916when you achieve the peak of your cultivation methods they usually just grant you immortality and as these methods only go up to stage 10 its achievable on earth
>>96794965i don't think methords are tied to the 9 stages at all, actually? like, they have their own progressions, but where does it say you can't master a method while still at stage 3?also i think it doesn't say anywhere that it's possible to get to stage 9 on earth either? why are you assuming that
>>96794086Beautiful, now where is she?
>>96794970>also i think it doesn't say anywhere that it's possible to get to stage 9 on earth either?Says it on the first page bro>RE-10+ - Stages beyond this are unable to be achieved with Earth's current state, as its ambient RE levels are too low.RE-9/10 is Earth's limit unless you find ways to increase ambient RE levels and/or find or make an extremely high concentration of RE on Earth
>just a normal guy that you can eventually kill or convince to stand down which is probably the easier option considering his personality and goal>his cockroach skills doesn't really matter with fated nemesis giving it automatically>wants something to prove that everything is fucked and not ok anymoreIs Richard Cox the best nemesis? He already gets violent when you try to convince him so the nemesis bullshit again, does something he already would do as a companion. Guy is a pragmatist too meaning eventually he'll give up and realize the truth compared to the other companions. Also kino narrative with you being a DIMA experiment fighting fist fighting a delusional DIMA agent
>>96794954>>96794960What you are describing is literally what training exercises with a good OPFOR is for. It's just militaries don't do it as much as they should since it's expensive. If you are seriously sparring with some one who isn't a moron they will pull whatever weird shit they can thing of to win. Hell you'll experience more unexpected weird shit since since the consequence of it not working in sparring is so much lower. Propper sparring isn't done against some robot that only has a pre defined move set it does over and over in a predictable pattern, it's done against a skilled opponent who is trying to beat you.
>>96794990richard will unlock his latent power and shatter you to pieces, not a good match up
>>96794990Making an experienced sniper your Nemesis sounds incredibly bothersome. Also having him as nemesis risks getting the remnants of DIMA trying to recover their lost property(you).
>>96794985the current actual record is 8, so you may as well treat 9 as beyond the limit too as it could be so much easier elsewhere that it's really not worth tryingalso where does your assumption that methods are tied to stages come from?even worse, where does your assumption that getting to stage 10 means comfy retirement come from?>>96794991training exercises made for you by who exactly? unless you're picking the grandpa ring you won't even know what to exercise against, and that's before the fact that there's just too many ridiculous situations for you to train against, like before you dismissed the example of four different problems happening at once even though your training would have at most handled each on their own, not how to deal with them when the solution you used in sparring against one is going to get you killed by the other one next to ittraining still pales in comparison compared to actual experience even when it's perfect, and i would like you to find me any military trainer that says otherwise
>>96795002>>96794994Still just a normal guy. Potential doesn't matter because all the other companions have potential and already are vastly above Richard with their supernatural bullshit. He's just the easiest one compared to everyone else. The only companion that beats Richard is Urul because he hates violence unless nemesis also changes their personality.
>>96794990the best nemesis is the one you counter, for example if you're practically impossible to pin down in melee you may as well get cassian, while if you have something like the venom method and perfect conduit you may as well get the demented alchemist since she won't be able to poison you
>>96795008>even worse, where does your assumption that getting to stage 10 means comfy retirement come from?well it does say that you can achieve peak method on earth and as peak methods include immortality you can just chill an be immortal on earth
>>96795008>training exercises made for you by who exactly?I didn't say training exercises, I said sparring. Are you hung up on only technical sparring and drills? Because I have clearly been talking about full-contact sparring. Do you not understand the difference between drills/scripted technical "sparring" and full-contact sparring?
>>96795029okay but why are you connecting that to stage 10?
>>96795008You can train at 10x efficiency in the time chamber thougbeit. Also, Methods are how you advance in cultivation. Trying to do it without one is gimping yourself
>>96795008>the current actual record is 8, so you may as well treat 9 as beyond the limit tooNo? Just means nobody on the planet has reached that level yet, not that it's beyond the limit. This whole apocalypse is still a pretty recent thing, given enough time someone will reach 9, and there's opportunity to reach 10 or above with the right conditions, i.e. Place of Power, Condensation Array, and so on.As for the other stuff, I'm not the anon you were talking to.
>>96795031it's not that at all, i'm telling you that you can't train for every situation because things you never trained for are going to happen and there's nothing you can do about itthis is already true in mundane real life combat, imagine how much worse it would be with all of these diverse magics flying around
>>96795037you're assuming that without any real evidence, the cyoa doesn't ever connect stages with methods, for all we know it's possible to master your methods while still in stage 2 and nothing bad happens, hell maybe it's even more optimal to do it that way
>>96795032just assumptions as it provides the framework your methods will follow and that you will have these abilities at baseline, so I assume stage 9 and 10 are around peak for the method.
>>96795037>Also, Methods are how you advance in cultivation.Incorrect. Most cultivators dont have a method, this is mentioned on the last page.>Most cultivators on Earth don't use methods, instead brute-forcing their way using the path outlined in the "Stages" section.
>>96795044>you can't have combat experience for every situation because things you never experienced before are going to happen and there's nothing you can do about itYes, that's why gaining a broad variety of experience to apply your human intelligence is important. Actual experience is more directly effective at this than training, but the risk of death is a considerable cost that few are willing to pay unless forced to.
>>96795055but the stages are the baseline unmodified by methods or other factors, so we don't have any way to overlay the progression of methods on themthere's no firm answer to this so it's up to interpretation, like yeah, i think it's likely to be too difficult and also entirely pointless to try and race ahead in method while delaying your stage, but it still bears thinking about>>96795062you're right, but you're thinking in mundane terms, you have tools in the cyoa that make gathering experience way more viable, like a way to actually respawn, actual danger sense, actual divine luck, a bunch of methods that let you avoid, endure, or heal from almost anything close to your stage, and so onthough i guess the grandpa ring trumps everything else when it comes to the stuff we've been discussing specifically
>>96795044>it's not that at all, i'm telling you that you can't train for every situation because things you never trained for are going to happenAnd my point is "real" combat isn't any better at preparing for that since you will never experience ever possibility in "real" combat either. In fact "real" combat is worse for that since you have to focus just as much on not dying as figuring out how to counter what ever weird trick that gets thrown at you. By sparring with a variety of people you have the chance to encounter all sorts of weird tricks that would have otherwised killed you the first time they were used against, but learn to deal with them, because they didn't kill you the first time they were used against you.
>>96795079>In fact "real" combat is worse for that since you have to focus just as much on not dyingthat's what the real training isalso see the second half of >>96795071
>>96795071>you're right, but you're thinking in mundane terms, you have tools in the cyoa that make gathering experience way more viable, like a way to actually respawn, actual danger sense, actual divine luck, a bunch of methods that let you avoid, endure, or heal from almost anything close to your stage, and so onYou realize the people you will be fighting will have similar tools to counter all those things making combat just as deadly right?
>>96795090on the contrary, most of your enemies won't have anything near to what you can have if you devote a decent part of your build to itspecialize in being a survivor and surviving will become a lot more likely
>>96795098>on the contrary, most of your enemies won't have anything near to what you can have if you devote a decent part of your build to itThat only applies to Earth which is a kiddy pool in terms of cultivation. Once you get off Earth the gap will dramatically shrink. You might still have an edge but there will be people who can and will kill you in a real fight.
>>96794863You are the only one
>>96795109the gap will only shrink if you start going after the couple of holy sons amongst a decillion other cultivators, the shit the cyoa gives us is ridiculous
>>96795114I don't believe you.
>>96795109You dont think grand inheritances are something common do you?
>>96795023Iska probably the best one universally. She effectively is on a timer without your soul being an anchor. Just as much as fate forces you and her to fight, fate is also killing her plus she has to deal with all the full brunt of the voices in her head. Matching your strength means fuck all if she's dying
If you have dharma weapon and void body, once the weapon awakens, does that mean you can then boost it with void body?
>>96794990>>96795127You do know Heaven will punish you for taking the easy way out right?
>>96795127yeah but making her a nemesis gives her her own fortuitous encounters so a single issue like that is not likely to be enough, i think the best approach is when your build counters the overall approach of the given nemesis, because someone like cassian isn't ever going to do much more than be a bargain hulk>>96795132heaven hates you one way or another, don't fall for any mind games
>>96795127Good point, even if her soul is not tied to yours she might still manage to put on a fight, but not as much as someone else. Counterpoint: i dont like alva
>>96795115No even on Earth you are special but not *that* special. For example Rake has mentioned Marie Su's version of Heaven-Blessed and Protagonist Aura is out right better than the version we can get. Like that's her GI cheat power but that should be a red flag that you shouldn't expect to be the only one with some sort of cheat power even on a back water like Earth.>>96795121Depends on what you mean by common? Some of them are probably rarer than others but there are probably a hand full of cheat powers on each planet. Maybe not as good as yours but they'll be there none the less. Like Mary Su and Lyra, and that's on a back water like Earth. Not that it matters because as the CYOA points out, some one super serious and dedicated but with no talent can absolutely train hard enough to get good and kill a godling golden child.
>>96795147Marie has a better blessing, she doesn't have three grand inheritances AND ten blessings and five treasures on top.
>>96795147Earth is a backwater but it's the specialest little backwater thanks to DIMA. Much more portal storms, foreign cultivators, treasures, and methods compared to similar worlds.
>>96795132Defying heaven is the whole point of cultivation, and with the protagonist package it can't do much to you anyway. Also heaven already hates you since all your shit counts as stolen, from your methods to your GI.
>>96795147Her blessing does not feel better, it actively keeps surrounding her with guys that creep her out. It feels more like a curse, her luck is good but more than protagonist aura she seems to have a victim or damsel in distress aura.
>>96795158Oh, you have her full character sheet? She has a "perfect foundations". She has a "peerless sword Method". Hell she's literally describes as having "priceless artifact seemingly turn up out of nowhere" so she might have more than 5 Treasures. No telling what other Blessings she has.>>96795161Okay, and do you think even a specialist back water is going to be the much crazier than the more settled worlds? Did you read the descriptions for just the other worlds "close" to Earth? The entire multiverse is pretty crazy.
>>96795184I guess I should have phrased the Protagonist Aura one as "stronger" which admittedly in context might not be "better". But if you read how crazy her luck is that one is also pretty nuts.
Immortal Realm? Destroyed to fuel my growth.Overgrown World? Destroyed to fuel my growth.The Ash-Plains? Destroyed to fuel my growth.Corpse Caverns? Destroyed to fuel my growth.The Living World? Destroyed to fuel my growth.The Veiled Lands? Destroyed to fuel my growth.War-Torn World? Destroyed to fuel my growth.The First World? Destroyed to fuel my growth.Go big or go home
The obvious meta is to pick Su as a nemesis so you get boosted to match her constantly and then turn the setting into a autistic shonen one
>>96795189She has the equivalent of three blessings, one of which may be a single blessing and closer to the grand inheritance tier but that's unclear. Getting treasures out of nowhere is like mentioning treasures from lost legacy as separate from their source, kind of silly.
>>96795023Why do people ignore what Nemesis says? It specifies that whatever more powerful than them you are through descriptions, they will become unnaturally stronger enough to challenge you without you actually being able to permanently put an end to them for some time.Yes, you can eventually take them out for good, but it goes against the drawback to think that they will be a simple nuisance you can just wave your hand and destroy. Richard will get dima to work against you, Iska will become a whole spirit and grow several times in power, Urul will forge some shadowy organization to hunt you down, etc.
>>96795201Omniarch-sama... you are truly wise and understand what is at stake... lesser men would balk at what is needed
>>96795205Okay but that still means she has a GI which gives hear a steady stream of Treasures, which is arguably better than the one off Blessings/Treasure bomb of Lost Legacy.
>>96795184>victim or damsel in distress aurashe just needs a valiant prince to save her>>96795201>Go big or go home>targets low tier worlds instead of ascending to a higher world as soon as possible.
>>96795233>The First World>low tier...
>>96795220At treasures specifically? No. Lost legacy would be far, far better at that. If you're treating what she has as a grand inheritance, it's mostly found in her luck and clout, only giving her treasures incidentally. So luck is good for everything but not reliable for anything, same as the main problem of heaven-blessed. What's clout good for? Well, maybe she could make a sect at some point, though she probably won't. On its own, it's doubtful she'd be better at it than a build that takes a couple of different blessings for that purpose, as the new version added some nice ones.But the point is this is one girl who maybe has a grand inheritance, though it might not be one. You start with three grand inheritances and several other incredible advantages. You are beyond comparison to anyone else on earth. You'll probably need to explore a hundred worlds before you meet anyone comparable in potential.
>>96795130yes
Why would you want to fight the Marie Sue? pick her for the harem, you need babies with luck so they will have babies with the robot babies of Ajax and weapon babies of the Dharma weapon to create a true super bloodline
>>96795237my bad, but if you wanna directly jump from the lower tier ones to the center you are gonna have your ass kicked
Can you use the tree treasure along with the Treasure complication to grow body parts of immense value to sell at market?
>>96795270eugenicsmaxxing
>>96795216the post you're responding to accounted for the fact that nemesis empowers them, that's why i think it makes sense to pick someone who's base approach you counter, because for example someone like cassian is never going to be much more than a bargain bin hulkinstead ask why posts >>96795203 >>96795127 are loking for other means of countering their nemeses which probably won't work from the outset
>>96795279No. Read the treasure complication again
Can you hang yourself on the spliced tree to make copies of yourself to then suck the di- I mean, to devour?
>>96795321you can't devour yourself, read devouerer
>>96795321Are you a "base resource"? I don't think so.
>>96795327That's why you make a copy of yourself, it's not really you anymore.>>96795330That just depends on your self-esteem.
>>96795279Just get Lost Legacy and find the most expensive raw material it has and just keep growing it on the spliced tree for passive income. Now all you need to worry about is cultivating and staying safe. Your other needs are secured
>>96795334i think this is both a dangerous idea and an unnecessary oneit's dangerous because if you become known as someone who keeps selling something really valuable you'll just become a targetit's unnecessary because you don't need even more resources if you have lost legacy, you're better off splicing whatever gives you the most direct utility for your own cultivation
>>96795333>That's why you make a copy of yourself, it's not really you anymore.It's still you. The problem is eating your flesh, the clone, by mere definition, is still your flesh
>>96795333You will get a chunk of flesh with your dna at most, if it even works at all.
>>96795252I'd argue her luck giving her Treasures is about as good Lost Legacy. It's like the difference between taking a lump sum or payment when winning the lottery. Taking it in payments is often better since you tend to end up spending it more wisely rather then splurging or leaving it to gather dust in a bank. You're also forgetting she has "perfect foundations" and a "peerless Method". Those aren't nothing.As for us getting three GI, we only get one for free. The other two we have to take pretty serious drawbacks to get. And again potential is nice. Very helpful. It will not save you if you pick a fight you aren't ready for in a cultivator setting. And there are many examples and explicate call outs throughout the CYOA that say there will always be a bigger fish. The Passing Through event and Incursion Draw Back means that even are perfect examples that potential threats aren't static and those bigger fish can and will come join you in little ponds.Anyway my original point was you shouldn't get cocky and expect to always have the upper hand or some trick to grantee your survival like >>96795098
>>96795297Do you not understand how bullshit Hulk is with his powers right? Cassian is going to get boosted to comic hulks levels with the drawback eventually. Fated Nemesis is basically a trap option because it looks like a funny reoccurring rival when it's more a Fate tethered equalizer permanently on you until you find some loophole
>>96795361>You're also forgetting she has "perfect foundations" and a "peerless Method".the cyoa reader also has both of those for free, we were just discussing earlier that there's what's almost a fourth grand inheritance hidden in the blurbs, almost nobody else has the perfect methods and foundations we do even before making any choicesalso we have two methods, not one
>>96795365yes, i AM accounting for that, thank you for askingwhat the fuck do you think the point of my post even was? what did you think i meant when i said being "practically impossible to pin down in melee" is what makes cassian a good nemesis?
>>96795375There is no best nemesis to counter like you said because they ignore any counter automatically from fate
>>96795381no, the example i gave you demonstrates why it's viable to counter your nemesis, just because a nemesis is empowered doesn't mean they're all perfectly equal now, that's a completely retarded way to think about it
>>96794047>projectingnope
>>96795402this is exactly the sort of post an hardened autist would make, unironically
>>96795388>becomes intangible to counter Cassian>Cassian gets the ability to affect spirits through pure strength>become immune to poison >alchemist invents loophole poison that affects you anywayNo reason to take this drawback unless you enjoy playing whack a mole for the rest of your life
>>96795410you're being too reductive, your argument sums up to the idea that they're all indistinguishable one from another, which is very low iq
>>96795410The point is so that you always have someone comparable around to measure strength with. It would be lonely at the peak.
>>96795417Read the drawback. Like I said before earlier. No one fucking reads
>>96795369Actually the Methods available to us aren't "peerless", they were just what DIMA could scavenge. It's stated we'll almost certainly find better once we get off Earth, or we can spend a GI to get a significantly better Method with the Mentor Ring. So that's arguably a 2nd GI Su has. And while are foundations are very very good, they probably wouldn't be considered "perfect" without taking Peerless Prodigy and/or Heavenly Counquerer Foundation. Which is another GI, though Su's seems more geared towards quality of Method while we get quantity.
>>96795406>doubling downsperg kun...
>>96795428They're peerless methods because they have none of the issues almost all other methods have.It's stated that we'll find successor methods once we get off earth, not ones that replace our starting ones.
>>96795410Excuse me, but where in the text did you get the idea that they change their builds from? All the cyoa says is that they become stronger, not different. Well, except for the part where they are very good at escaping, that's an addition to them.
>>96795439Who said finding out different ways to use your build is changing it? If that's the case, Iska would be the no brainer since she dies immediately without anyone to let her build up to a stable form. But that's not how the drawback works.
>>96795423Sadly this isn't a gay shonen but chink shit. You're getting raped with a near peer rival in a setting like this.
>>96795448No, but turning cassian into a wizard who can counter any sort of utility and mobility effect through magic kind of is changing his entire approach. The cyoa's description just demands that he becomes as strong as the reader and that he always finds some way to attack and retreat.
sword vs gun method? one has time and the other fate
>>96795435Well for the Methods we have available being "peerless" they certainly have a lot of peers. Pretty sure that means by definition they are just good, not "peerless". Hell they are only described as "stable" and "high-quality". That's not "peerless". Now that's still a big deal on Earth because must cultivators on Earth are winging it. Which means Su's Method is better than ours, and probably the one offered by the Mentor Ring.
>>96795453>sorry, your headcanon is wrong>my headcanon is right thoughlmao
>>96795467Peerless is standard xianxia phraseology for "really good", not to be taken literally any more than cultivation genius and spitting blood.
>>96795467Trifili's is better as well.
>>96795461Cassian isn't a wizard for learning how to punch ghosts to counter you. Its a escalating arms race that you cannot win. Like finding a way to become immune to bullets will make Fate give Cox a way to find some special snowflake bullet that can damage your soul. He's not changing his build at all
>>96795475In the other xianxia cyoa you even have a couple of girls being described as peerless beauty
>>96795487He's absolutely a wizard if he can just whip up a random ability any time it would be convenient. The ghost thing is your example, not mine. You also absolutely can win the arms race, the cyoa even explicitly tells you so. Are you pretending to be retarded now?
>>96795475While generalities are generally true, it is very dangerous to assume they are always true. Especially when you have specific counter examples like very good Methods being described as "stable" and "high-quality" instead of "peerless". Our Methods are good, but there are explicitly much better ones.
>>96795505>While generalities are generally true, it is very dangerous to assume they are always true.Yes, luckily we also have context, from which we can easily surmise that it's talking about a method similar to your own.
>>96795496>"It specifies that whatever more powerful than them you are through descriptions, they will become unnaturally stronger enough to challenge you without you actually being able to permanently put an end to them for some time."
>>96795487>that you cannot winkill all readlet headcannon spergs
>>96795513Look anon, if you pick someone who's basic approach you counter you'll have an easier time dealing with the fact that they can ambush you and slip away through fate fuckery. It's very simple. Anything else would be retarded, because it would mean the inverse also wouldn't be true.
>>96795509Context is important. And the context of this CYOA indicates Su's Method is better. Much, much better. One context clue is she is literally (and I mean literally literally, not figuratively literally) a fucking Mary Sue.
>>96795513>for some timeJust gonna train in my neet cave for 1000 (100) years and come out and one shot them.
>jobbing to fatecouldn't be me
>ITT: idiots who can’t read arguing with other idiots who also can’t read with their headcanon Atleast it better than shitposting off topic
>>96795521>fucking mary sueas you wish
>>96795521Actually, tell me where this disconnect is happening for you. Are you underestimating how amazing the methods we have are? Because they are actually so amazing that they are verging on grand inheritance levels in how good they are for us. Or is the disconenct on the other end, are you overestimating how much the word peerless means? Because, in the xianxia vernacular, it really isn't as strong a word as you're implying.
>>96795527What makes you think it's more than one?
>>96795531I think the disconnect is you don't get the joke of what Marie Su is. "Mary Sue" is a term for a character, usually a young female, who is just better. Like the authors favorite pet character that is just un-realistically perfect and generally better at everything than anyone else. The point of her character is she starts off with more/better stuff than even us.
>>96795558If you think the reader's build isn't a bigger mary sue than Marie Su, then you're not reading the CYOA.
>>96795558I agree with the other anon. She is a Marie Sue, alright, but the MC has access to literally the best things you could find not only in our world but in worlds near us too.She just has blessed luck 2.0, the MC can become THE xianxia mc
>>96795565>>96795579I disagree. I think starting with less than Marie Su but still being able to surpass her if you try hard is a very deliberate choice. As I've said before the CYOA very clearly call out this is the type of cultivator setting where hard work and dedication can trumps all the gifts Fate and the heavens could possible shower on some one. I think Marie Su starting off with better gifts but insecure and lacking ambition is supposed to be an opportunity to flex if you want to try hard.
BETRAY and EAT marie su to gain heaven-rivalling luck
>>96795593If you think we start with less than Marie then you're either verging into some extreme headcanon or you're deliberately crippling your build. Like, I'm not against you imagining her as starting with better stuff or anything, but don't imply that's the default assumption when the CYOA clearly isn't saying that.Also, this is way past the original conversation when it was just about whether Marie's blessing is grand inheritance level or not. Now we've somehow arrived to the idea that it's better than the ~5 grand inheritance's worth of shit the player starts with? Please.
>he thinks luck will carry him>in a xianxia settingIron Will is all you need to beat Marie Su.
>>96795593But you do not start with less. Perfect foundations? You can have themGood method? even if we say hers is better, you have 3.A lot of luck? you still can get a lot of luck even if less.And then you get other things like the best weapon in the near multiverse, the strongest possible bloodline, be an absorber of anything intrinsict to a person etc...Mary Su is not that strong, her only real advantage is more luck, which can be countered by a lot of choices in the cyoa. She does not have better gifts, she has some good gifts.
>>96795612>>96795611Luck is not a good blessing to take anyway. It's not reliable. Take the danger and loot sense from seventh sense instead. Way better value in roughly the same niche.
>>96795579Mary Sue characters have to have the world bend to them and have zero problems that affect them in a significant way. If they do have problems, they are always minor annoyances made to make the Mary Sue look better for tolerating or solving it. (You) are not a Mary sue but just a generic wish fufiflment character. You don’t have that ability even with all the powers. The heaven themselves wants to kill you and you need life crippling drawbacks to get more while she gets stuff for free. That’s literally the reason she has no ambition. Everything is too easy for her
>>96795625The reader is a much bigger mary sue than Marie. Everything you can say about her applies to us even harder. The only difference is that heaven is seething about the fact that we're such a mary sue, while it's not doing the same for Marie, and all of its seething is discharged through the complications we take anyway.
>>96795625Buddy, you are literally more blessed than her. She being a joke pun character because she is lucky does not mean she can beat the long ass list of things the mc gets for existing. "B-but actually a Mary sue" don't care, she is not a mary sue in the sense the writter will always make her win, there is no writter but you.
>wahh wahhh the universe won't bend to give me every cheat skill and make me the strongest automatically >the grand inheritance/blessing cheat skills don't count o algo, I want to be the strongest right now without any work!!!!!bitch niggas>I will buck break heaven with my unbreakable conviction and cultivate true omnipotencereal thugs
>>96795641>work>in a cyoaoh yeah it's so tough writing some words into a txt file, please just solve the cyoa for me author
>>96795634>blah blah blah my headcanon is real!!!It really is just one retard arguing with themselves right now isn’t it
>>96795646Anon, we are all the one retard here.
Why is it that anon throws a fit and insists that you would lose no matter what, despite being the main character of the CYOA? Is anon retarded?
>>96795658It is a strange impulse. I remember when several of them ganged up on me one time in a spirit conscript build, but all they had to show was a crab in a bucket mentality, not any actual arguments that weren't factually wrong.
>>96795666>still crying and being bitter about a past argumentlol lmao even
>>96795677I'm actually happy with that build, which shows that I was confident about being right.If you can guess which build it was we can revisit it though.
crabs in a bucket really is the perfect image to describe cyoag anons
>>96795607I never said I though she just had one GI/Blessing. I mentioned part of her luck GI could rival or beat Lost Legacy in terms of Treasure. But way back here >>96795189 I clearly treated the foundations and Method as other separate thing. You're the one who lumped them together in your head. I just brought up Su and Lyra as examples of people who clearly had GIs on Earth alone. I didn't say anything about how many I thought they might have at most. And, yes, I think it's perfectly reasonable for a literal Mary Sue to have several GIs. Hell, there is also a drawback the can make literally *any* of the companions into a rival just as powerful as you.>>96795612Well part of Mary Sues is they lack flaws. So while you might be able to get more GIs and Blessings, you do have to take flaws to get there. You really only start with ~2, the freebie GI and your special soul that lets you have 2 methods. Su starts with ~3; her GI level luck, perfect founds (like as good as Heavenly Conquerer Foundation), and a very good Methods like the one you can get from the Mentor Ring.
>>96795697she isn't supposed to be a literal mary sue you fucking sperg, how the hell can you shift your position until it becomes this retarded
>>96795697>I never said I though she just had one GI/Blessing.I did. She has one at most by value. It's possible it's less than comparable to a full grand inheritance too. She definitely doesn't have more than one by value. And that's not counting the fact that she doesn't seem to want to take advantage of half of what it grants her.
>>96795682You need to let go of your seething. No one remember some past argument that made you upset anon.
>>96795697>"Mary Sue is better because she has luck and peerless sword method.">Gets low diffed by my guardian with dharma weapon, because they are practically 2 stages above her and can respawn infinitely.
Let's talk about pseudo-fallen instead. What a great drawback.
I think probably one of the few ways you can actually kill Mary Sue is trough the usage of void body to nullify luck. You can probably beat her without it but killing her would be really problematic as she will probably just escape trough some deus ex machina otherwise
>>96795702>the character who's description is a text book example of a Mary Sue, and is even named Marie Su, isn't supposed to be a a Mary Sue.>>96795713>She definitely doesn't have more than one by value.Okay, based on what? I made my case about how her luck can easily meet or be Lost Legacy in Treasures. Maybe not all at once as a lump sum but as an endless stream. You have to take Heavenly Conquerer Foundation to get "perfect" foundation as a player instead of just really good foundations, but Mary Su has perfect already so that's a 2nd GI. And you still haven't given any reasoning for why Mary Su's "peerless" is more like our "high-quality" than the one granted by the Mentor Ring other than vaguely waving your arms and saying "well other authors have used that word to mean something other than its definition", so you have done next to nothing to provide a solid counter argument against that 3rd GI.
>>96795770Yup it's pretty great just live a chill life and it will never trigger
>>96795781Nah, luck is a lot but it isn't everything. It's also unreliable and a good way to become complacent, not even realizing you're relying on the unreliable. She might get saved twenty times by it but the twenty first would be the end, and if she was used to her luck enough by then, she wouldn't even see it coming.
>>96795789Not just that, you can enhance your ferocity with it if you learn to control it.
>>96795784It says she has middling talent so if you take conquerors foundation and peerless prodigy you will cultivate faster than her.If you also take void body you will nerf her luck and get another stage up on her.
>>96795464you are getting confused anon.>>96795770indeed
>>96795766>you get low diffed because she gets lucky just kills you instead instantly rendering the guardian and dharma weapon meaningless
>>96795784>the character who's description is a text book example of a Mary SueYou mean the player character? Because that's the only one in this cyoa.>Okay, based on what? I made my case about how her luck can easily meet or be Lost Legacy in Treasures.So... her luck, which is half of her grand inheritance, matches up to treasures, which is half of a different grand inheritance? Checks out as being half a grand inheritance. The other half is her protagonist syndrome, which would then correspond to the extradimensional palace from lost legacy.
>>96795789>Gets attacked by cultivator 1 stage above.>Instead of escaping you chimp out and kill your companions then proceed to dieYes very good drawback
>>96795821Skill issue. Literally. Why are you even outside before you've begun to handle it? The cyoa gives you everything you need to solve the parasite and pseudo-fallen before you even leave the basement of the facility.
>I'm sure to win because my luck is superi-AAAAACCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK
>>96795770Sudo is joining my Akashic Ascension council of sub minds to unleash pure furry and madness upon my foes while the rest of the council hangs out with Iska. However I am either killing or kicking out the spirit from Possession.
>>96795833you can also do it with iron will
>>96795810Guardian and Dharma weapon is 2 stage boost, I dont think they will have trouble protecting you while you are boosted by luck 1.0
>>96795784NTA I agree with most of your points but the real unobtainable value of the lost legacy is its time dilation as it's a unique anomaly of craftsmanship so while she can probably acquire the money in the long run trough her luck don't think she's getting the palace treasure that easily. The perfect foundation and techniques are also not really at the full GI level as the HCF also provides you another method while Mary Sue is limited to one and the mentor ring provides a lot more information. So I would argue that her luck is more on a 1.5 or 2 GI level
>>96795847Her luck is 0.5 GI. Her entire package doesn't even match lost legacy when you count the protagonist syndrome part, though it would at that point be comparable to some weaker GIs.
>>96795845in xianxia, to get a 2 stage boost you generally need something like eleven 1 stage boosts, you can't just go 1+1 because the stages scale geometrically
>>96795833This GI is the best one. No selling bullshit hacks and outright invalidating drawbacks like fated nemesis
>>96795869nothing invalidates drawbacks, it just makes them easier
slaver's collar on the TRVE DRAGON
Why does no one pick unbound causality?
>>96795794It's still highly problematic as it might just work in such way that it just convinces you that it's not worth killing her or that you have something way more important to put your resources and efforts swords, the easiest way for luck to prevent some monster from killing her is preventing a situation where she would even meet or piss off someone of a higher level
>>96795410>its this retard again
>>96795890So not to piss of some time manipulating eldritch monstrosity
>>96795866Your guardian is 1 stage above you, if you give them dharma weapon theyre "invincible to everyone on same stage" as them making them effectively 2 stages higher.
>>96795890I did
>>96795866This is why void body is so op as it nerfs the enemy to your level and if you have allies that are stronger than you they are just fucked
>>96795917Dick devourer is going to eat you and steal your void body
>>96795945Just kill the devourer and take his power, should be easy with void body as you just nerf all of his stolen powers
>>96795902its invincible on the same stage as you, not the same stage as your guardian
>>96795963Thats because its tied to you. If you have a guardian and have them steal your weapon it will bond to them and scale off of them.
>>96795800My point was she starts with 3 GIs without taking draw backs. Her perfect foundation, being roughly equal to HCF, being one of those GIs.>>96795813>You mean the player character? Because that's the only one in this cyoa.Well we have to take draw back to get as many GIs as her.>So... her luck, which is half of her grand inheritance, matches up to treasures, which is half of a different grand inheritance? Checks out as being half a grand inheritance. The other half is her protagonist syndrome, which would then correspond to the extradimensional palace from lost legacy.Well her luck is Heaven-Blessed but better. And she finding Treasures all the fucking time *forever*. Not just a 1 off Stores of Wealth, but constantly finding priceless artifact capital "T" Treasures.>>96795859Swings and round abouts. She only gets the one Methods, but it's very, very good and perfect for her. It's probably on the level of the one in the ring if not better, but the thing is she goes right into learn it. So we get a mentor with lots in information who can eventually teach us a better Method, she starts with a much better method.Hard to say what all Treasures she'll find. Maybe nothing as unique as the time dilation palace but if you were given the choice between that palace and something that would give you dozens or hundreds of Treasures & Artifacts of all sorts over time can you say it wouldn't be at least a little tempting of a trade off?With HFC we get one more method with our sublime foundations but it doesn't say what the secondary effects she gets from having a perfect foundation, her description is a lot shorter than all the description in a full player build. Devil's in the details.>>96795847Rake has outright said her luck is better the Heaven-Blessed so it's more than .5 GI.
>>96795956How are you going to take his power without dick devourer
>>96795978>>96795859>>96795847I got this last two links flipped somehow.
>>96795963It would be funny to just use auxiliary master or a treasure from lost legacy to just get a weapon above your stage so it's gonna be stronger than dharma weapon at least at the start
>>96795984Well the description of dick devourer is that you ate a corpse with dick devourer and then you just got the phisique after eating it, so just do the same
>>96796001Oh wtf I somehow missed that you get it by eating someone with said physique.
>>96795989Dharma weapon can absorb higher tier weapons if you take both.
>>96796016That's why you would be hunted down for having it.
>>96795978>And she finding Treasures all the fucking time *forever*. Not just a 1 off Stores of Wealth, but constantly finding priceless artifact capital "T" Treasures.Doesn't really matter. Lost Legacy starts you with a ludicrous amount of stuff, and it's not like using the spliced tree and market to keep it up is a problem. You aren't ever going to have a real material need with it.>She only gets the one Methods, but it's very, very good and perfect for her.The same as our methods are for us, yes. Extremely good.>Rake has outright said her luck is better the Heaven-Blessed so it's more than .5 GI.Heaven-Blessed is less than 0.5 GI, so her luck can easily be 0.5 GI. Or even less than that.
>>96796018Oh, yeah combining GI can create some really scary shit, like void body+dharma weapon pretty much makes you invincible in a one on one as you lower them to your level, unless they pull some artifact bullshit
>>96796040Don't forget primordial essence.
>>96796042I think unbound causality would be better dharma weapon provides enough of a power amp better to just get some hax
>>96796026>Doesn't really matter. Lost Legacy starts you with a ludicrous amount of stuff, and it's not like using the spliced tree and market to keep it up is a problem. You aren't ever going to have a real material need with it.She doesn't find materials. She finds full blown artifacts like Spliced Tree. All. The. Time.>The same as our methods are for us, yes. Extremely good.You really think "high-quality" = "peerless"? Have you looked up the actual definition of "peerless"?>1 drawback = 1 Blessing = 0.5 GI>Heaven-Blessed = 0.5
What happened to Surinical?????
>>96796070Nah, the most important thing with void body is to bring everyone down to your level except you're stronger than them at the same level, so you have to maximize that.>>96796076>She doesn't find materials. She finds full blown artifacts like Spliced Tree. All. The. Time.You don't need to buy materials either. Also you're just pulling the rate out of your ass. It undermines everything you're saying. She might be your waifu but she's not god.>You really think "high-quality" = "peerless"?Yes. Well, more like "very high-quality". That's what it means in xianxia lingo. It doesn't matter what it means outside this context, because we're in this context.>>1 drawback = 1 Blessing = 0.5 GINope. You can't equate them. By comparing their power, a blessing is significantly weaker than a grand inheritance. Furthermore the opportunity cost of grabbing a grand inheritance is a lot stricter, as you can only get three of them. I'd give something like Heaven-Blessed 0.2 GI at most.
>>96796076>You really think "high-quality" = "peerless"? Have you looked up the actual definition of "peerless"?By that logic peerless prodigy is also grand inheritance tier and makes you most talented cultivator there is.
>>96796118A lot more than just grand inheritance. If you're being an overly literal dumbass like anon, peerless prodigy means that there's no greater prodigy than you in the infinite mutliverse.
>>96796092Surinical was a web service that ran on 4chan servers. The hack interrupted the process and he hasn't been restarted.
what are you guys talking about now?
>>96796179some guy is desperately trying to prove that marie su is somehow stronger than any build
>>96796179Anonymous believes that the labor theory of value makes his waifu THE STRONGEST.
>>96796189I would probably say she is at base player level without any extra complications, but she is definitely counterable especially by something like void body. But I would say that she is the strongest companion and I wouldn't want to fight her as a nemesis as it's going to be really annoying to deal with as an overly cautious coward with plot armor is hard to put down they will probably just escape at the final moment, especially if the plot armor from the complication stacks with her existing plot armor.
>>96795945The actual dick devourer is too busy trying to eat his own clone body off the replication tree. Hes too retarded to hunt.
>>96796241Nemesis automatically equalizes your power levels. Meaning you will always be evenly matched with Marie Su. Does that mean the universe boosts you to match you to her luck-based gains? Maybe, maybe not, but it does mean that she can't easily kill you. And a coward would rather retreat than risk everything just to kill you.Yeah, it's hard to get rid of her, but you don't really need to. You can deal with the problem later when you have developed your heaven defying hax to full power.
>>96796297>Nemesis automatically equalizes your power levels. Meaning you will always be evenly matched with Marie Su.That's not quite what it means. It doesn't account for any different specializations and strengths. Marie will always be specialized in luck. If you specialize against luck, even if she's nominally as strong as you are, you still have the advantage.Marie is a shit example for this though, because nemesis already gives tons of luck to any other nemesis you pick.
Luckfags job to Dice + Iron Will + Void Body
>>96796241She's just a tongue in cheek joke about destined heroes, that's why her name is Mari Sue. She's insanely lucky and gets all protagonist benefits and yet is an insecure coward who can't actually make use of them She's not on another level than the other companions and what she has cannot be compared to all the bullshit you can get. If I didn't know this place was full of autists who really think they cannot win and have no imagination, I would assume you are just shitposting.
>>96796354more like any one of those, you don't need all three
How close do you think the minotaur's lair is to something like black mesa and aperture science
>>96796452probably pretty similarit's a free drawback if you take third eye and seventh sense
>>96796461I'm dancing around about it with youthful too, but i also have primordial essence, void body and lost legacy so i think it is pretty freeI think a much more important question is exactly how cool it is to experience though, maybe i should go play those games again
How much is too much? I currently have 19 different powers that are techniques. This means they are powers anyone utilizing the power system can come and learn in-universe through self-discovery (hard mode) or taught (reduced hard mode) using the power systemThey are not the main power you have and use to fight and define yourself. But powers you use to support yourself and accomplish a lot of different things qith some having offense ability.What is a good stopping number?
>>9679650721
>>96796507there isn't one really, let your muse guide you and keep doing it as long as it's cool but stop when it's not anymore
>>96796473You only get GI before leaving the facility so you don't actually have them for the labyrinth. That said, nothing stops you from picking those and getting out. All drawbacks are is inconveniences, but I would call none of them free since they specifically are meant to override blessings, just picture them as additional complications to your story.
>>96796553Nah, that was debunked, only your companions are delayed, you get everything else in the basement, after which you "realize the facility is much larger than you thought"
>>96796507>This means they are powers anyone utilizing the power system can come and learn in-universe through self-discovery (hard mode) or taught (reduced hard mode) using the power systemI hate this.
>>96796553>they specifically are meant to override blessingsNot really. True conflicts are very rare. Most of them are like youthful versus primordial essence. One gives you -1, the other +1, you arrive back at 0 to your metaphysical power, except you still have the other issues those two present.
>>96796461>it's a free drawback if you take third eye and seventh sense, unless you have finger-licking good
>>96796639I hear that many cultivators jobbed and died in minotaur lairs for thinking its a free perk and then getting 1-shotted by beast stage gadzillion.
I can't believe someone is trying to argue that a companion has luck on the level of 3 GIsThis is just pure insanity at this point
How does Imperial Ancestry and Primordial Essence work together?
>>96796733like the old primordial essence
>>96796639just use a deodorant technique retard, you fucks really are helpless
>>96796733Like normal really, Imperial ancestry just gives you inborn knowledge that you learn and a boost in efficiency, Primordial Essence gives you a other sorts of inborn knowledge that you will learn in tandem.You could assume that the noble lineage you stole came from a primal bloodline that diluted ages ago and started back up in you but mechanically there should be no difference in how they work.
>>96796756Doesn't Primordial Essence also give you direct concrete power, like the ability to turn into a dragon or whatever the fuck you choose to be your bloodline?
>>96796783yes?
>>96796783Yes, and more eventually as you master it and grow in stages but what does that have to do with imperial lineage?The only thing they have in common is the inborn knowledge and you can simply assume that they contain different sort of information.
>>96796783maybe, not at the start at the least>>96796718you just realized how retarded some anons are?
>>96796800I thought that it's implied that they're both bloodlines in a sense, so I concluded that they might conflict with each other, or maybe they're from the same bloodline and that would negate some benefits, like making them redundant and stuff.
is the allsync still being updated?
>>96796820>>96796783oh yeah, you work up slowly to full dragon, you go something more like humanoid dragon first then full dragon later>>96796821they aren't anymore, they were sort of in the past versionif i ever took both and fluffed them as from the same source i would absolutely interpret that the benefits are complementary and create a sum greater than their parts though, the bloodline is the biology and instinct and the memories are more rational upbringing and education stuff
>>96796820From the start, you get a body that is always one stage higher than your current one.
>>96796864the stage stuff is metaphysics, not shapeshifting
>>96795784>Okay, based on what? I made my case about how her luck can easily meet or be Lost Legacy in Treasures. Maybe not all at once as a lump sum but as an endless stream. With that logic our own Luck blessing is a GI because "It can let us find riches and eventually get Lost Treasure worth". Her luck is not GI worth.>You have to take Heavenly Conquerer Foundation to get "perfect" foundation as a player instead of just really good foundations, but Mary Su has perfect already so that's a 2nd GIthe HCF also gives you the skill to wield a 3rd method at the same time. She doesn't. So her perfect foundations are also not GI worthy.And the Mentor Ring is not only a good method, is a good method, knowledge of everything, a powerful ally and treasures/secret places he knows.What you are doing is take 1 thing a GI has, then say as Marie has 1 thing that could be similar to that 1 aspect of a GI, she has a GI. Having Perfect foundations is not HCF, having maybe 1 method better than the ones we have is not mentor ring, having luck with the excuse you could eventually get riches is not Lost Treasure (ffs, Lost Treasure is something EVERYONE CAN GET WITH ENOUGH TIME AND SUCCESS, the thing is, its the inheritance of a very successful Cultivator)You are just being autistic about this
>>96796863Even if you fluff them as being from the same source, which isn't really necessary, there's no need to them to be redundant.Like if you pick dragon and your imperial dynasty was a long descendant from that dragon, then you would still get all the secrets that the imperial lineage developed over centuries, while the actual dragon powers come from the Primordial Essence, which have faded from even the immortal races so they are not something that family would have or cultivate.
Why is oversoul so fucking garbage?
>>96796948it's not
>>96796076>1 drawback = 1 Blessing = 0.5 GI>Heaven-Blessed = 0.5This is retardedIn 1.1 a fucking GI gave you 3 free Treasures that are worth 1 drawback each. Then it got nerfed to two. So just the side effect of Lost Treasures still gives you 2 drawbacks worth of Treasures, and apart from that the dimension and all the other riches. A blessing is not 0.5 a GI, I doubt its even 0.25 being honest. A blessing is something other people in the world can have. A GI is the BEST thing you can find in a lot of worlds
>>96796948it's not, i considered it seriously for two separate builds but it can't make the cut with only 3 slots, i always want either 2 fighting inheritances or 2 crafting inheritances, with the last one falling to hcf
>>96796951It is. Its literally just a part of what the old heavenly conqueror used to be.
>>96796889GI are explicitly things that will help you even far beyond Earth and none of them are to be considered stronger than the others. This means that whatever Lost Legacy gives you is not something that any successful cultivator would get easily or naturally, even those from the most powerful workds. The idea that just luck would just get it for you is stupid.
>>96796954a fair number is 0.2, it feels right and also you start with 1 inheritance and 5 blessings so it's the same ratio
>>96796507>imageGod I want to breed the bunny
>>96796967only a very small part of it, most of the missing hcf is in peerless prodigy now, and peerless prodigy also makes you more competent against deviations
>>96796960>but it can't make the cutWhat a coincidence. It just so happens that in almost all the other builds everyone has made, it also can't make the cut. Almost as if... it was bad.
>>96796968in the case of lost legacy the unique part is the pocket world, all of the material wealth is absolutely something you can amass with time and effort even doing low-intesity work
>>96796992it's just less useful than hcf if you only have one slot for cultivation support, i could see using it in the right build, such as one with the rune tattoo method, and if you want more focus on cultivation support then it would easily be in there
Elemental roots is overlooked. Fate/Time/Space/ChaosAdd any of those to anything and they become op, and even can enhance techniques that already have them. Also, unlike methods, this is tied to your body and soul, so they will follow if you change any method.
because of this conversation i'm gonna make a build based on karmic, hcf, and oversoul, i think they're a good combo for a non-crafter mage type and the lack of lost legacy will at least spice things up a bit>>96797032its kind of similar to oversoul, good but can't quite make the cuti also just put the space element on my primordial essence so
>>96797032Author said you can't pick chaos.
>>96797041fine, i pick infinity then
>>96797010Its less useful that hcf because it is hcf. Part of the old version, that is. See the image.>>96796983>A very small part of itLook at this image. Read both and you will see the only difference is the mention of deviations and complications.
>>96797041:(Chaos was not my first pick anyway. Depending of my build has time or fate method, then I pick one of those to enhance it. And if they don't I pick space.
>Be me.>Be a spearfag.>Like the sound of Fated Shot Doctrine but don't want to associate with gunjeets.>Take Innovative + Peerless Prodigy then repurpose the entire technique into a Polearm one and throw the gun parts into the trash.>Say hello to my [Fated Slayer Doctrine].Its that shrimple.
>>96797032talking about overlooked, mastermind is basically devourer but with contracts.>>96797041i wonder if that means that here is no chaos cultivation method
>>96796201This is a neat little comfy cyoa. I liked it but my original complaint was that it was a bit lacking in customization, intead of being locked into one of those roles it would be more fun to have like a list of powers and choose any 3 of them, or being able to like swap one of your powers for that of another class for at least a little bit of personal touch. That is unltil I realized that Medical is fucking broken, you have knowledge of both dna and tech, perfect knowledge of how your body works, and a swarm of surgical nanobots, you can essentially just give yourself whatever the fuck you want.
>>96797075I thought about it too.
>>96797057You also can't pick that, Gojo-kun
>>96797081Nah, there might be. Chaos was just deemed too op to be picked.
>>96797081>talking about overlooked, mastermind is basically devourer but with contracts.which makes it worse. Its way easier to eat a heart than to convince X giga chad cultivator to give you his strengths
>>96797075>>96797086>has not read Innovativewhy do we have so many readlets?
>>96797075Hello Skypiercer.
>>96797090prove it
>>96797090What the hell is this?
>>96797100there is no strength disparity here, you could reach stage 10 and take the physique of a stage 2
>>96797106>nooooo that's not how it wor-AAAAACKKKK!!!don't care lol.
>>96796948The text says that GI are roughly equal in power so you are simply choosing a weak interpretation of it's powers.It not only instantly gives you experience and knowledge was beyond anything on earth, it also makes your techniques go beyond what most could achieve with them, taking properties and complexities beyond what even old cultivators could achieve with them.
>>96797118You can already do that. This was already a discussion in the first update.The only diminishing qualities of the Devourer is when he gets stats, physiques, bloodlines, special abilities etc... are devoured in full despite strength difference.
>>96797081>mastermind is basically devourer but with contractsI'm not sure about that, the example "right to rule" might just mean the person that is trading that to you must make sure you become a legitimate ruler with their own effort. I don't think Mastermind make anything beyond the punishment on breach of contract happen. They can't trade you a physique if neither of you have a way to do that already.
>>96797117Marinkuna>>96797113No~
>>96797132Nevermind, I just reread it, it include memories too, so it might trade thing by itself.
>>96797075>>96797086>>96797106>>96797124spear and gun are written with the same character in Chinese: 枪
>>96797125Were they equal in power when oversoul was part of the original Heavenly conqueror? If you are taking that argument, then it is not equal in power to the others now that it has been separated and turned into 3 different things.
>>96797155looks like a dumbass in a hat standing next to a house
>>96797124>don't carei can tell
>>96797157if the text says they're equal in power then that adjustment works on them differently now
>>96797210They are somehow equal despite being just 1/3 of a real grand inheritance.
>>96797155yes, and?
>>96797241it was way overtuned in the first versionkind of like how lost legacy is still way overtuned now
>>96797075So you're basically like a Caesar's Legion recruit that chucks spears instead of using a gun.
Guns >>> All
>>96797241The power is simply adjusted so they are all somewhat equal. If you don't agree they work that way then that's just you ignoring the text.
>>96797081chaos is usually the a contender for the strongest thing in xianxia
>>96797323Does that mean I have a rival?
>>96797367you're gonna need to cultivate for a very long time for that, mister wannabe pangu
>>96797321Care explain how do you headcanon that it gets adjusted. What makes it better now than how it was to make it able to match the others? >>96797251Kind of like devourer too but I guess both of those are allowed to be that way. Unlike oversoul who should have been its own thing instead of just a cheap copy of the original hcf
>>96797379Who would win, Chaos cultivator vs Supreme Bloodline dick devourer, with the best weapon in existence and the 3 best methods humanity can create?I like my odds.
>>96792627Name: Yin-Yang Scion>MethodsAll-Consuming Inferno TabletsHeavenly Celestial ScrollsEternal Frost Pages>BlessingsHeaven-BlessedWarhoundImperial AncestryDecentralized OrgansIron WillSeventh SenseElemental Roots (Yin-Yang)InnovativePeerless ProdigyDeceitful TricksterMutated DantiansLowly Junior>TreasuresTotem of RebirthSlaver's ToolsPower ConcealerMarket TicketHunting Grounds>Grand InheritanceHeavenly Conqueror FoundationPrimordial Essence (Dragon)Void Body>CompanionsTest Unit AA-108, Model "Ajax"Marie Su, The Prodigal Daughter>EventsCorpse KingPlace Of PowerTreasure HuntPassing ThroughProfundity In Violence>ComplicationsParasiteValuableFated Nemesis (Mono, Eye-Friend)Deviated FormIncursionIncompetentFinger-Licking GoodMinotaur's LairCourting Death (All-Consuming Inferno Tablets)Toad Lusting After A SwanFrog In A WellPossessionLonelyMy methods, elemental roots, and innovative should open the path to the supreme path of yin and yang. The rest of my blessings and primordial essence will make me the strongest in my level, and void body will bring even those stronger than me to my level. Most of the drawbacks are trivial with void body + heaven-blessed
>>96797391void body cultivator slams
Who does Dick Devourer work with having kids? Do your kids get yout stolen bloodlines but not the Dick Devourer? do your kids get the Dick Devourer but not the stolen bloodlines? do they get weaker copies of the Dick devourer and/or stolen bloodlines?
>>96797405they get everything, provided you have that blessing
>>96797403Void Body is good but I don't like it. I also disagree with the anon that thought that it automatically puts everyone above you at your level, but I read it when that discussion ended anyway.
>>96797417It only puts those 1 stage higher than you at your level.
>>96797416No purebreed, it would be weird to only get 1 partner with how things are in the setting about people dying and people living thousands of years. So pure normal eugenics
>>96797057Also not an element.
>>96797430neither are space, time, and fate, but they're all used as examplesthe elements for that blessing are extremely broad
>>96797425Thats also what I think, but someone really thought it means if you fight a stage 10 as a stage 1, they get reduced to stage 1 and your allies win
>>96797425>it [HEADCANNON]
>>96797457That is what Rake said
>>96797472The problem of updates is people forgetting what we already knew. Like the guy that didn't know Devourer didn't get diminished physiques, bloodlines etc... just less stats
>>96797390I don't headcanon that it gets adjusted, it's simply more valuable than what it was before. Being a master cultivator with Heavenly Conqueror has roughly the same cosmic value as having a whole life experience at being a cultivator with supernatural ability at creating complex techniques that oversoul gives you. Same as turning back time, having a primordial bloodline or consuming techniquesJust picture it as the techniques and knowledge that Oversoul gives you are beyond what you would be able to achieve with any of the other GI. You are the one saying that it has to be weaker because they worked different in the previous version.
>>96797501It just makes no sense for this simple reason>Rake returns and updates the cyoa again>Lost Legacy nerfed: It no longer gives you 2 blessings/treasures and the time dilation palace>Brand new Grand Inheritance added to the cyoa: It gives the player 2 blessings/treasures and the time dilation palace>Oh well, I guess both the new lost legacy and this new grand inheritance are both just as good as the rest of the others because the text says they are all balanced!You can't just write on your cyoa>The cyoa its balancedInstead of balancing things out.
>>96797546he did it with luminary and no one complained thoughever
>>96797586Damn, all this time authors were worried about balancing. If only they knew all they had to do was write at the start of the cyoa that the entire cyoa was balanced. They could have saved so much time!
What exactly is the practical difference between Oversoul and Mentor's Ring?
>>96797619oversoul gives you a gigantic boost in cultivation comprehensionmentor ring gives you a mentor that knows a lot about everything - methods, cultivation, secrets, hidden treasures, forbidden techniques, etc.
>>96797619The ring teaches you the best way possible and the jobber isekaijin helps you fuck around and find out on your own. Also you might be able to free the mentor.
