>>96795834
h fuck you GW these guys are 1000% cooler then the darkoath marauders I have, I might proxy them as warriors though? Have my darkoath themed army keep its theme but expand on the units I can use

>No fat bitches
>Proper helmets and armor
Man whoever they got for the Darkoath really hated the army

>>96795882
>I might proxy them as warriors though? Have my darkoath themed army keep its theme but expand on the units I can use
Oh, that's actually a pretty cool idea, now I'm tempted...I wanted to do a barbarian STD army in AoS using Darkoath+some of the other cultist kits but the sticking point was always that not having any actual elites is rough. A thematic full barbarian army sounds amazing by comparison.

>>96795834

Happy for StD players, that's a pretty good release

>>96795834
>TQ
Only if they’re something pleasant to paint. Got some stuff from dungeons and lazers I’m converting to chaos spawn. Still looking around for something plastic for a second lord of change to accent my 1st one.

>>96795834
I'm trying to make bird themed Monsta-killaz but I need something for a token.

>tq
not really since until recently only the gw store was within reasonable distance to play games. The only thing stopping me from darkoath were the horrible basic marauders so I'll use the fuck outta these.
>>96795893
the basic marauders are just uniquely terrible. Mogged to high heavens by the Savagers and now by these guys. Can't imagine a lot of people are going to pick them up after this marauder release.

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does someone have that little comic snippet from dark elves approaching an ork boss, saying something like "we offer the head of your most hated for". a goblin then whispers something into the ork bosses ear. then he chops the dark elf in two and yells something like "ZOG IT, KRUMP EM LADS!"

>>96795913
A bird skull?

>>96795949
you're asking in the wrong thread filthy cross poster.

>>96795929
>Can't imagine a lot of people are going to pick them up after this marauder release.
GW is not going to be selling them after this marauder release, so I don't think they're that broken up about it.

>>96795971
I meant darkoath marauders, not old old world chaos marauders. Man, what annoying terminology

>>96795952
Just a skull? I don't know, I was thinking of grot with artificial wings

>>96795913
vulture or whatever trying to fly away with a grot in its talons

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Chaos Mammoth SOON?

>>96796011
That's good

>>96795949
it was most probably part of the Warhammer age of reckoning comics, prelude to war

>>96796060
I think that was one of the main tow rumours, along with a chaos dragon possibly? might be wrong on the dragon though

>TOW might get new trad Goblin infantry
Finally a full Gitmob army

>>96795893
Darkoath are just a little goofy because they took the decorative armour on the heroes and presented it as a random accumulation on the path to full chaos warrior equipment
They look like a bloodbowl team with a random mix of arm, knee, and shoulder guards. Doesn't help the hair is some anime looking shit and the poses are so exaggerated

I needed to work on my minis anyways.

>>96796146
the hair on darkoath marauders is so off putting, the heads are by far the worst part of the kit. I get it's a warhammer staple but the mohawks on every model just looks shitty.

>>96796146
Come on, man, just admit it. The fat chicks were the main issue. You're not on Facebook, you can be honest here.

>20 dudes/10 horses to a box will mean they'll almost certainly end up being better VALUE than Darkoaths too
Yeah you'll never see savage models again. Anyone who already bought into them is grinding their teeth right now.

>>96796168
Nta but the fat chicks, the awful hair, and bad face sculpts were all awful looking

>released almost a decade ago
>still mogs the rest of his subfaction with only really the warqueen and maybe savagers even coming close
how did he do it? honestly silver tower was fucking great and every mini bar the spiderlings looks better than the their actual ranges. GW was locked in for that box

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>>96796258
>forgot the image
well that's just embarrassing

>TQ
Nah, im fine with our Darkoath.

Hey, GW, where is our Warhammer Quest reveal?? Anyway, happy that TOW get new things

>>96796273
He is pretty cool. I still prefer the conan asthetic over vikings, but yeah the dark oath execution was a bit underwhelming for the main release.

>>96796146
Yes, the poses are exaggerated, like the sculptor's only reference was movie combat scenes, and then he chose to stylize it. They look like they are in a video game moving in slow-mo to telegraph their moves so the player has time to press dodge.
>>96796168
I can headswap the ugly hair cuts and faces. I can paint the skin whatever skin colour I like. But re-posing an entire box of minis is a lot of work if the models don't otherwise spark joy. (NTA)

>>96795979
Eh, it's not necessarily an either/or situation. I have Darkoath, I'll probably buy this box as well. More barbarians for the barbarian horde.

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>>96795834
I love the design, but painting 40 of these guys with so much detail, texture and material sounds like a nightmare. Might just grab a single unit to proxy with the Darkoath, but definitely not grabbing the set.

>>96795834
Wow, these really underscore just how terrible the darkoath release was.
Not a fat bitch or limp anime haircut in sight.

>>96796168
I don't mind a fat bitch but she does stand out amongst a homogenous ripped unit otherwise

>>96796365
Even worse when you use them for tow, what's the point of all those detail when half the units can barely be seen in the middle ranks?

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I wish I was better at painting so I could do my Clawlord justice

>>96796486
They look fine anon, dont beat yourself up.

>>96796480
>aosissy who never played WHFB doesn't know you do can get away with doing full detail on only the front rank

>>96796456
One wonders if they're giving the activists a trial-period with gayness, fat hoes, female commanders and female led books to test the waters to see if people actually buy into it.

...

Nah, theyre just that dumb.

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>>96796486
Damn I always forget to resize

>>96796493
>Literally the first new Chaos Warrior model released for TOW was a fat female commander.

>>96796456
Nature is healing.

Thank you, orangeman.

>>96796514
resin doesn't count

>>96796492
>half asses his models
Yeah Im guessing thats a staple for rank and flank games

>>96796566
You can stop making a fool out of yourself now.

>>96796288
I want to see the water sword lady, or fat evil guys.

>>96796602
You can start!

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Mark Pearson if you're reading this please get in touch with me!

>>96796288
Knight was revealed on tuesday, hopefully we'll get another reveal tomorrow

>>96796635
I really hope they show some of the bad guys and don’t actually show it off model by model until Christmas

>>96796514
Eh.. so? That refutes nothing I said. I said I hoped this was a trial period, which we're clearly still in.

Was Cursed City not kindof shit? or are people excited only for the models?

>>96796635
I cross my fingers. Maybe multiple heroes (1 model per week sounds horrible)

>>96796667
It was good, but not perfect obviously. Not the greatest dungeoncrawler, but not a bad one. Andnthe models are great.

>>96796667
Cursed city was fine, it just had major productions issues that fucked over the whole release. I remember it being fairly fun

What is there to look forward to if your army book already dropped and it's not very good

>>96796667
Yeah, pretty much
They don't even have board tiles this time

>>96796667
It wasn’t as good as silver tower but it wasn’t bad. I’m personally looking forward to playing the new quest. Especially after seeing the quirk on the manticore knight.

>Warhammer Quest expansions won't be boxed games but books and card packs

>>96796667
Never played it, but I did enjoy the Ulfenwatch, and they obviously went on to be the template of the skeletons.
I'm excited to see some Nurgle stuff.

>>96796691
Well this isn’t tow where you’re army will be stagnant forever (looking at my shelved wood elves) and my kruel boyz were better post siege of ghyran than the initial book.

>>96796699
the decision to not have Dungeon Tiles and instead go for a Map book is one I'm not sure about

>>96796691
Smaller waves like Ironjawz in last edition or stuff like warcry

>>96796691
Thug it out, work on some other stuff, hope gw buffs them in a scourge of ghyran esque fashion
Those are your three options.

>>96796691
Warcry, campaign book releases, new models in Spearheads, seasonal rules

>>96796709
>>96796711
Do you think that there will be more stuff added to Skaven before the next edition? I can scant compel myself to finish any models with how demoralized I feel.

>>96795882
If Chaos Marauders are priced the same as Jade Warriors they'll be $90.00 for 20, Darkoath are $60.00 for 10
Hard to justify getting the AoS ones even if they were priced the same

>>96796727
Your rules are fine what are you on about?

>>96796508
I think he's fine, if anything you can always just repaint him as you get better. (Or keep him to remind yourself of how far you've come and all that jazz.)

I've got my custom Moulder Lord: Skrote who was one of my first greenstuff works and kitbashes. Did a similar idea again but did a slightly better paint job at least (though I still love the original)

>>96796730
But what about all the diversity and body positivity? Surely that's worth something!

>>96796727
Yes

>>96796730
How much points is it for tow?

>>96795834
these new marauders look decent, but kind of really exemplify why square based rank formations are jsut absolute shit to look at.

it takes a bunch of individually cool models and huddles them together into an indistinguishable mass of visual noise. ironically these would look much better in aos where models are spaced out a bit, the rank formation makes them look like shit

>>96796667
Yes, people buy GW stuff for models

>>96795834
>Do you use any proxies?

Not as often as I'd like to say I do, most proxying I do is underworlds dudes I have painted replacing their normal hero counterparts. I do have a custom kitbashed daemon prince from a Foromoid crusher, and some stuff for my 40k orks made from various other kits. But generally it's less a proxy and more a heavy kitbash.

>>96796786
6ppm

>>96796696
I'm kind of excited for the book idea, one of the biggest hurdles to getting me to drag my friends into playing shit is the setup time being like 40 god damn minutes. Having something like a little choose your own dungeon run booklet that has the encounters laid out like the OG heroquest would be fucking neat.

>>96796754
I'm not really interested in how well an army performs; my primary interest in a Warhammer army lies in customization and units that "do things". Skaven currently have really bland enhancements and their heroes boast underwhelming abilities (the Arch-Warlock's ability is my go-to as an example of the kind of 40k-esque rule that I don't like to see).

>>96796819
Path to glory

>>96796767
TOW marauders are all men and $90 for 20
The price of a man is $4.5
AoS darkoath are 50% women and $60 for 10
Therefore we know the price of a women is $7.5

>>96796786
Between 6 and 11 points per model, depending on which options you pick, with an additional 17 points added if you take a chieftain, standard bearer, and musician.

>>96796844
If you've people who are willing to play narrative modes at your LGS, then I'm envious.

>>96796727
Rumour has it they're getting new eshin stuff, possibly tied to some spearhead starter set thingy.
>>96796730
They look quite a bit bulkier than jade warriors though. Will probably still be prided better than darkoath per model but i'm thinking they'll be more costly than jade warriors

I like the Sylvaneth and their nature vibe but then I remember they are made out of plastics and building/painting them releases microplastics into the world :(

>>96796894
>building/painting them releases microplastics into the world :(
not if you eat them

>>96796894
Make your own. Carve them out of wood.

>>96796855
is that rare? I have two lgs where i frequent where I can always get a game for narrative, and i've seen people get narrative games for aos going on in other lgs in passing. Granted I live in a big city so maybe its just a numbers thing.
Almost makes me worried about what the aos scene will look like in the state I move to next.

>>96796788

my thoughts exactly

>>96796934
Kino

Actually CRAZY they couldn't just release these guys as Darkoath.

>>96796921
>not if you eat them
Reminds me of the KO army painted like christmas cookies

once again asking for a pdf of city of secrets

>>96796977
Compleatly wrong aesthetic. Why would darkoath be huddled for cold

>>96797007
Also not enough blacks and women.

>>96797020
The cornerstone of any force of evil

I never thought about it, but it is true that the Darkoath stalk hot deserts and jungles as well.
I mean, the Norscans had Skeggi, but still.

Question to those experts that can judge every size /dimension with your eyes: would new Marauders fit on 25mm bases (I wonna get them for mini agnostic skirmish games) or do I need those weird 28,5mm ones?

>>96796788
>>96796963
Formations look good if it's normal dudes with pikes and halbers or whatever. When it's orcs or marauders the size of 3 normal guys using big fantasy flails then the formations start to look off. In this case made worse by the insane amount of detail all just blending together into a nondescript brown sludge

>>96796977
I have zero doubt they fast tracked them because the dark oath release failed so hard.

>>96797054
I think the sun is setting on the 25mm bases

>>96796060
I interpret that more as a "we might do something like that down the line" rather than a "coming very soon". They would have straight up made Norsca it's own thing if they were going to do that, instead they got souped into the rest of chaos warriors.

>>96797083
What's the logic behind that?
>The sculpts don't sell and so we fast-track a remake and change game system
?

>>96797102
Every single aos player that buys marauders will get these instead from now on. The office ordered a do over.

>>96796977
You have to remember the retarded self-imposed inter-department competition GW enforced.

Darkoath would've been based if it was all just a bunch of conans and red sonjas like the chief and warqueen. Unfortunately gw is allergic to hot women and we ended up with a bunch of awkward college students instead.

>>96797083
The rumor is that they are the repurposed leftovers from a cancelled Norscan army

>>96797134
Yeah. Nobody would have cared if the black standard bearer woman was Grace Jones in Conan the Destroyer, but she looks like she stumbled out of a Detroit McDonald's. They completely squandered the standard they set with the hero models.

>>96797142
What went wrong for them to cancel it?

I still feel like 70% of AoS could fit into the Old World

>>96797142
no it isn't, you just thought of it and decided that sounded slightly plausible so you wasted a post saying it

>>96797148
I'd rather not.

>>96797134
People blame wokeness and blacks and women, but honestly one of the worst offending elements was the way they did fur and hair in that Goku style.
Do we know who the sculptor was or had they stopped saying already?

>>96795834
Where are the overweight brown womyn? This is not Age of Sigmar.

What’s the one thing a mortal, unaffiliated with chaos, can do to piss Khorne the deity off, that would make him sic demons on you?

>>96797268
Broker peace

>>96797268
Flee

>>96797268
khorne sometimes throws giant brazen skulls at mages
khorne also sometimes sends karanak to hunt down mages

he really doesn't like wizardry, especially when it gets in the way of war

>>96796691
Growing up and moving on to TOW or vintage WHFB.

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>>96797024
Funny

>>96797328
growing up would be moving away from gw and playing actual good games like saga or conquest

>>96797328
I tried dabbling in TOW army building but they really fucked over Skryre there. You can't outfit a Warlock Engineer with much in terms of equipment or magic items, and they don't even buff war machines.

>>96797024
If you believe that blacks are inherently stronger and more aggressive then you would want them as the core of any force.

>inb4 THEY NOT DISCIPLINNED!!!
Yes they are, when trained. Look at the most popular and physically demanding teamsports.

Anyway I just ordered food and my black delivery driver was named Pacifique. Need to start an army with a black general now, that is too good to go to waste.

>>96797072
this is exactly my point. it only looks good on neat little tin soldiers, and looks very bad on anything remotely interesting like the above new marauders.

god

if i could just...if i could just get a game system that marries age of sigmars core rules and objective/scoring play with like old worlds magic item, runes, wargear, listbuilding and allies systems, and maybe a 40k 6 strategems per subfaction thrown in. that would be perfect. idk, maybe you could also switch it to alternating activations.

but it feels like anyone thats trying to combine these ideas always goes for ultra small skirmish scale nonsense instead of full blown armies.

>>96797282
>>96797311
Ok I came up with something:
a wizard lives in a warlike society - he conjures up a magical tower where he can chain up with magical bindings the most warmongering and aggressive elements of his society: the minister of war, the bloodthirsty general, the unruly youth, the mob rouser, the unthinking warriors, they all end up chained in his tower.
Hopping around in an effeminate and flamboyant way, the wizard catches all of these elements, and in the end, the nation, which was about to go to war, is peaceful instead.
The wizard goes around bragging about the magical tower and keeps ensnaring proud warriors and any wrathful elements of his country.

...That's the first person I would think of whereas Khorne would open a portal in his bedroom and send a Bloodthirster.

>>96797142
This is not a "rumour" and never has been posted anywhere in advance of today as a predictive item.

It is speculative theorycrafting from a 4channer (the place that brought you qanon and has a perpetually active thread for people to summon succubi wives).

>>96797148
The Old World introduced Cathay which is frankly whacky AoS bullshit as far as WHF goes so there's no reason IDK or KO can't fit either

can you fit kronys's head on karazais pose and vice versa? or is the head part of the whole neck assembly and you would have to saw it apart to do that?

>>96797377
>if i could just get a game system that marries age of sigmars core rules and objective/scoring play with like old worlds magic item, runes, wargear, listbuilding and allies systems, and maybe a 40k 6 strategems per subfaction thrown in. that would be perfect.
AGREED

>>96797146
People cried when the UW warband featured a black paint scheme for the archer. They'd bring up his character art which looks Caucasian and cry woke erasure
You underestimate chuds

>>96797360
Yeah I am also a Skaven main and they aren't really worth using in TOW.

If you can find a playgroup that uses Square Based Renegade rules and their new attempt at a comp pack then I bet Skaven play a lot better.

>>96797400
Just write that own game?

>>96797421
Interesting... I'll check this out.

>>96797400
So AoS 2nd edition?

>>96797377
You're basically describing first edition aos desu

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>bought the darkoath box
>still haven't opened it (moved house)
>these marauders are dropping
another backlog win. i hope there are spare heads, i wanna swap the darkoath heads with these

>>96797512
The article say each box comes with at least two head option for each model
>Every miniature has a choice of two heads

>>96797520
Ery noice. Gonna open both boxes at the same time and seethe when both of them have that nu gw 'requires instructions' bit

>>96797148
90%

>kharadrons: southern darklands dwarfs, instead of going chaos like the north darklands ones, they went to the sea and up, now mostly settling around antarctica

>fyreslayers: dwarfs that followed grimnir north when he went to close the chaos gate, remained isolated from other dwarfs fighting chaos up there until very recently

>idoneth: parts of ulthuan sunk during the sundering, the elves of the sinking lands got saved by mathlann, but he exacts a heavy toll of souls and a duty in the deeps

>lumineth: the elves that founded the colonies in the far easts, who routinely interact with the spirits of the lands in their duty of safeguarding the waystones

>kruleboyz: erroneously called "half" orcs, these are orcs that grow in the swamps of the old world and badlands, where the orcish spores produce different results

>ossiarchs: nagash's own forces standing in his empire of bones in the city of nagashizzar and the most immediate vicinities of the land of the dead

>stormcasts: sigmar's chosen champions uplifted to fight an eternal war against demons in the realm of chaos, appearing on the world as angels in times of need

>>96797507
AoS 1e didn't have any equipment options until Malign Sorcery and the GHBs. Early battletomes were just fluff and battalions.
AoS never had WHFB style magic items, at best you had a 12 artefact list per realm which you could only take one per hero.
That's not to mention list building, scoring, etc. What a retard

>>96797553
Hell Mordheim has what is effectively a Stormcast Eternal in one of its supplements.

>>96797557
magic items are honestly poorer artifacts imo

>>96797561
fanmade supplements or?

>>96797512
>bought the darkoath box
>win
l o l

>>96797595
Muslces over prudes

>>96797561
Uh? Doesn't ring a bell. Also, pretty sure the would be champion of light for Mordheim was Aenur the Sword of Twilight, not the sister's character. Also >>96797570

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My LGS still has this box... I'd love to get the terrain and spider dudes, but the darkoath models don't interest me at all. Is there any secondhand demand for those?

>>96797639
where? Is it at msrp or are they charging it at market place?

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>>96797595
I love this lil nigga like you wouldn't believe.

>>96797639
They're playable in AoS and only available in a Spearhead so they're scalped to shit
You can get like £40 for them easy

>>96797647
MSRP I think

>>96797615
>>96797570
It was made by Pirinen, can't remember the name but it was this little girl who's described as having a guardian sent by Sigmar that's this huge being in metal armour and suggested on a 40mm base.

>>96795834
Not trolling but why did our Darkoath come diverse and full of fat women while Old World gets proper Viking raiders?

>>96795882
Fortune favors the infamous

>>96797098
The rumour said both marauders and a mammoth are coming soonish.