Trench Crusade General - /trench/Eurofag Edition>What is Trench Crusade?An alternate weird history 28mm/32mm tabletop skirmish game still in a pre-release playtesting phase but with the full release slated for this year. Based on the art and lore of Mike Franchina, whose illustrations you may have seen floating around on /tg/ for a several years now, and designed by Tuomas Pirinen, one of the original creators of Mordheim. It's grimdark, it's visceral, it's awesome, and it's very Blanchitsu.>What Trench Crusade is notTC not an excuse for you to discuss IRL religion, history that didn't occur in the game, culture war shit, or discord bullshit on /tg/. Keep it on topic.>What's the QRD on the background?The Knights Templar turned heretic and opened the Gates of Hell when they took Jerusalem during the First Crusade. Over 800 years later the war is still ongoing as technology has developed to a pseudo diesel-punk WW1 standard and a third of Humanity has sided with the Infernal Princes.>How do I get started?All the files are free online, but are split between the website and the discord. They have all been collected here for your convenience:https://mega.nz/folder/70QH0BBa#Eg-blxYQKkY_C02wErnFTQ>third party sources for making trenchers:https://pastebin.com/YzXPVUAc>Trench CompendiumCompendium: https://https://trench-companion.com/TQ - Complain about the plastic models being EU only and before the books are sent out
Glad to see they are already working their way into plastic kits. Kinda silly that the 1st to release is the Prussians tho.
What’s the price on these guys? I didn’t see it in their FB post.
wait are they actually making plastic kits?
>>96815654Yes>when2027
>>96815641>1st release prussians>doesnt even give you all the equipment options>doesnt give you all the unit options I can see normies being very confused buying this
New Antioch looks cool
Link to the article https://www.trenchcrusade.com/news/the-prussians-have-joined-the-great-war/
>>96815646The rumor mill is saying 60 usd
>>96815715I mean the game has never been big on model accuracy to gameplay
>>96815412Interesting choice to start with a subfaction. Guess they didn't want to overlap with something already put in resin. Wonder if that'll continue for the next few. Trench ghosts or naval raiders would be cool.
So do the naval riders have special rules for water, or do all the other factions also have water warfare rules too?
>>96815412I am looking forward to them doing a proper plastic starter set. It's gotta be Trench Pilgrims vs Heretic Legion, right?
>>96815412Why are they moving to plastic? Selling out to become the next GW?
>>96816411>Why are they moving to plastic?Because they realized how insufferable printvegans are. This is their escape strategy.>Selling out to become the next GW?Yes. Rumour has it that Tuomas is gathering mercenaries from the continent, with intention to lead them in an all-out attack on Nottingham.
>>96816411Only way for the game to become permanent for normies. The issue being they now have to develop harder than they had before so it could flop
>>96816570>The anti-GW game has to become GW to surviveNow that’s Grimdark
>>96816475Mantic will open a second front while Turnip28 starts a partizan insurgency behind enemy lines.
Is it dead from troon touch yet?>Canon-free lore>Devs literally identify with the forces of hell>Also Muslims, for some reason>Setting makes no senseModels look aight, but it was designed aesthetic first, and the two priests they called in to write the lore outline hit it and quit it.
>>96816828>manticMantic isn’t even a cheap GW proxy anymore it’s just a worse one
>>96816895Yeah isnt this troon shit with zutt shit?
>>96817024Conceptually?It's a self-conscious attempt to grab up some of Geedubya's Grimdark leftovers.It may have been in the aesthetic from the beginning; you would have to figure out when the Iron Sultanate were conceived in the design process.So maybe it got Zutted on early, but the troon touch seems to have come on gradually.
>>96817276Yeah its an easy pass for me. Too much troon and zutt shit, like Infinity
>Tfw they’ve officially confirmed that prussians aren’t going to be STLs as wellOkay so guess I’ll buy those elsewhere?
>>96817303They realized Proonters hate spending any money so they need FOMO kits to survive now.
>>96817404I would’ve paid for the STLs had they been the quality of the heretic troopers and trench pilgrims kits, not monopose trash. Black grail looks so ass
>>96816411Printers have a far lower set up cost but are extremely slow compared to injection plastic.
>>96816895muslim faction is based
>>96817276What does Zutted mean?
>>96816895>>Also Muslims, for some reason>Muslims????? In the crusades?????
>>96817738Real question is where's the Hussites?
>>96817731I think that anon just like trans people
>>96815654There are already vids on youtubehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk8-EaXMQi8They look awesome
>>96816895Actual schizo post
>>96815641>>96815715This kit has me interested in possibly dipping my toes in this game, love a good multi-part plastic kit and the mormon one WGA put out didnt do it for me, but these guys look awesome. What's missing from it exactly and how important is that missing stuff? The minis are sweet but I'm wary of needing multiple boxes and kits for a sub-10 model skirmish game.
>32mm meme scale, making them essentially only compatible for kit bashing with Warhammer models, not 99% of historical models It was over before it started
>>96818418The oddity of it is moreso that Prussia is a splinter sub-faction not the mainline New Antioch faction. It'd be like if the 1st ever plastic space marine box set was Gray Knights. Beyond that tho they are pretty much monopose minis with 2 sets of arm variations & 1 of the Yeoman being a forced musician is even more strange. They're good minis but definitely not what I would have chosen as a 1st official plastic release.
>>96819443is this even considered heroic scale?
>>96818336so awesome imma basedpog
>>96819468What's that?
>>96819658Heroic Scale is larger head and hands (and feet sometimes) than is realistic. It makes those features easy to paint and more visible at tabletop distance. It’s relatively common, to the point of being the default scale for 28mm/32mm miniatures.
>>96816411>want to make a small game>make a Kickstarter to cover costs>make 3d models for those who don't want to make their own, even though that's a big part of the project>get 3m>get much more popular than expected>use the remaining money to expand rather than just lining pocketsIdk seems pretty reasonable to be if you take off the agenda goggles
>>96820061No anon you don't understand growth is evil because capitalism
>>96817760They were the friends we made along the way.
>>96815641Prussia is all the rage atm. I'd much rather have the Papal States or Alba, but what can you do.
just thought it'd be really funny if the Hebrew Knights are just like space marines
>>96819468>>96819658Yes. It is heroic scale, though not as exaggerated as GW - GW does 4.5 to 5 heads tall. Trench is around 5.5 heads. Even Infinity is around 6 heads.For comparison standard for a human is 7-7.5 heads with up to 8 for very tall people. In drawing/sculpting heroic scale is actually 9 heads tall - that's what Greek sculpture used for heroes.
>>96820536I got it. I thought Heroic Scale was something different in pertaining to mm scale of miniature bases or something.I never consciously realized that they made heads and hands bigger, but I did subconsciously because I kind of think most human minis I've seen are ugly and cartoonish. Now I know why.
God damn that plastic looks nice. I might actually have to get into TC now
>>96820546It looks better on the table because you are always looking at models from the top so your brain expects the heads and raised arms/hands to be bigger. It's a nice trick of perspective.
>>96819443>cool helmeted option or old woman Truly a tough choice
>>96820635You're forgetting about the forbidden third option anon
>>96820678Wouldn't pigtails undermine your authority
>>96820749A woman can't have that in the first place, anon.Specially not in a Biblepunk setting like TC.
>>96820753Did you forget you can field Stigmatic Nuns?
>>96820753thats some top tier retard logic
>>96815412>>96820739How much € for 8 minis?
>>96820832I don't think they've revealed the price yet.
>>96820807Oh get your panties out of a wad, lib. I'm just jesting about how an Old Testament-y culture would never put a woman in charge of fighting men.
>>96820791God, I fapped a lot with this spic. Now I want to collect stigmatic nuns...
>>96820852retard, fullstop.
>>96820878Spicmatic Nuns await you, Anon.
>>96815641>>96819345It kinda makes sense - everyone has their New Antioch and other factions already printed so they used this new release to market a plastic set instead of making STLs, on which they are losing a lot of money.Sprues look great, Archon really did caught up to GW's quality>>96820852My prussian cougar commander is a mini Joanne d'Arc
Bets on Naval Raiders being the next plastic kit?
>>96821021>Archon really did caught up to GW's qualityAbsolutely. But seeing them charging 30€ for the Promo Starcraft character miniature, it seems they want to catch up with GWs prices too.
>>96821178I imagine that's because you get two minis for that price, one with clear plastic and one normal grey one.
>>96821063Absolutely they will, the question is who will be next? The upcoming polish vampires?BTW, am I crazy or did they say in the past they'll never put plastic on store shelves or was it about exclusives?
>>96819345As a casually-interested TC outsider... isn't this simply because the main factions all technically have extant models/designs? To start manufacturing a plastic replacement for 3D prints that are ~1 year old would be an insult to early adopters and stir controversy. "Buy your shit again, but newer and better."Unless I am wrong about what has already been designed, and there is still some pseudo-main faction without STLs already.
>>96821316There are variants of the already existing factions without official models, most of them in fact.You can play New Antioch (which has models), or you can play one of the variants of New Antioch (which do not).
>>96821327By variants do you mean that they're cosmetically different but use the same units? Is that what these Prussians are, or are they even more different and use actual different units/rules?
>>96818336Seeing the sprues close-up I think GW actually has an open-and-shut case for Unfair Competition. These could be confused with Warhammer miniatures, and therefore should be illegal to produce.
>>96821316it's because New Antioch and indeed all the og factions are miniature agnostic. you could make Antioch out of anything. Prussia is an ultra specific themed sub faction.no idea why people are having trouble with that.
>>96821353They're different units that you use if you opt to run a warband in that faction.
Tourist hereWhat's going on in the americas in this universe?
>>96821353There are 6 unit lists. Each one has variants which alter the equipment, unit choices, and rules that apply to that list. Prussia are variant of the New Antioch unit list.
>>96821372Went broke from going woke. Smote by (((Yahweh))).
>>968157638 models for $60 is GW pricing, fuck that.
>>96821425OK then wait for the official announcement.
>>96821438Nah if I want Prussians there are plenty of options with 3D printing, plus they’re cheaper. I applaud them for going into plastic, which isn’t as expensive to do as people seem to think, but people these days want full options and one of everything. This box doesn’t do either of those so the price point needs to be very sharp indeed.
I really want that Feldkaplan and Hauptman model
>>96821493>which isn’t as expensive to do as people seem to thinkYou watched a Squidmar video and now you think you're an industry insider
>>96821493Well yeah, if you print your own then it doesn't matter.I'm waiting til I see some real prices before I decide if it's too much is what I'm saying.
>>96821496Red Pilgrim released a similar model some months ago
>>96821353Think of them as a subfaction, sure the models can look different but the variants have slightly altered rules.For example base New Antioch (NA) can deploy up to 5 Heavy Mechanized Infantry (HMI), whlie Prussia can deploy only 1 HMI and lose a fireteam but can deploy extra Shocktroopers, who get increased range with their hand grenades, have a higher availability of sumechineguns, get a new shiny anti-armor melee sword and the abilities of the cleric change if I remember properly.
>>96821515>TankcutterSo that's an anti-tank sword? For a guy in a Russian hat it feels weirdly Japanese.
>>96821525HOROBU KIRISHITAN ALLRIANCE
>>96821525How is that hat russian? All of europe had tall, hairy hats at some point
This make me want to build a Prussian Imperial Guard for 40k or HH, they would look awesome as command
>>96821595that was my plan for getting TC minis in the first place. To use as extra grim proxies
>people complaining about the priceyou only need one box of these guys
>>96821629And I only needed one box of GW stuff to play their skirmish games. So it's a fair compare.
>>96821639yeah but GW now sells their skirmish shit at a much higher priceThis kit is 90 aussie bucksGW sells Kill team kits for 139 dollars!
>>96821629We don't even know the price. It hasn't been revealed yet.
>>96821501Nah, I’ve been hearing stories of panto plates costing a quarter of a million for decades, these days it’s closer to fifty grand and that’s if you want injection molding. If you go with Siocast it’s even cheaper, and we’re now seeing the birth of home injection molding too. My background is in prosthetics, specifically maxillofacial prosthetics, and the lab I work in has metal printing, milling and rapid prototyping tech that would make your head spin.
>>9682165540 Eurodollarinos (preorder-price), comparable to their resin kits (45 € in their shop).Ships November 22.https://www.trenchcrusade.com/product/pre-order-prussian-stosstruppen-warband/
>>96821689>71 audnot bad. Thats GW insane prices from 10 years agoBut they will surely add a "you are from australia" tax of + 10 dollars
UK prices ft. shipping and VAT.
>50 USD for 7 monopose models Fucking GW tier Jesus
>49.99 for Ausno way surely that is USD. That is 76 dollars. Pretty good
>>96821701>71 aud for 8 dudes is reasonableWhat the fuck are you smoking Damo
>>96821722https://www.warhammer.com/en-AU/shop/kill-team-hierotek-circle-2024?queryID=01daefe281a1f05cb45ec3638c337ad5
>>96821720I swear GW made you retarded. I just got a box with 65 28mm Napeolonic miniatures for this.
>>96821689That's 15€ cheaper than Kill Team box, nice.And I appreciate I can see youtube vids with sprues and painting on the reveal day.
>>96821729Sorry, I don't understand how GW models being unattainably expensive justifies these being ridiculously expensive. I can buy the Last War starter set for not much more.
>>96821733>call some obe retarded while typing a retarded commentstfu you fart huffing retard, you are economic illiterateTheres a reason historics are cheap you imbecile and no shit everyone knows retarded fuck
>>96821729>Having to cope because it’s slightly cheaper than the most notoriously overpriced game company.
>>96821718$50 usd gets you just 1 mini from GW.
>>96821744its almost twice as cheap you idiot
>>96821515It doesn't make sense for something Christian, and Russian, to be "Red".Russia only became "Red" in the Soviet era, and Marxism is explicitly anti-religion.This thing is, to put it bluntly, a semiotically confused grab-bag of aesthetics, wrought by an amateur.
>>96821745Again, how the fuck is this your benchmark. GW prices are uneblievably distortedIt gets you 12-60 models from most other manufacturers.Even Archon's own tank model cost me way less than that.
>>96821745For 3 more dollars I can get 10 models, and a transfer sheet. Just admit it, TC is selling out.
>>96821743Wow fuckstick great argumentNow compare North Star or Mantic who also use Archon lol
>>96821750Red Pilgrim is not the name of the mini. It is the name of the sculptor. The mini is Prussian, not Russian.
>>96821754These are also overpriced shite.
>>96821753t. fool. GW is a price setter and other companies follow.>you get 60 from historicsyes moron everyone knows but historics are cheap because they are non-copy writable and substitutablefor morons eg you cant sell them at a high price.
>>96821761That’s what I’m trying to say, dollar for dollar these TC models are an awful deal
>>96821754https://www.warhammer.com/en-AU/shop/astra-militarum-death-korps-of-krieg-2025?queryID=80ddc0860599bc7c1ec84d82b4ddef5890 bucks vs Prussians at 76 bucks.Also they are always out of stock
>>96821769Then don't buy them. You don't have to buy them to play the game. It's miniature agnostic.
>>96821773For now
>>96821769thats not how pricing works please read>>96821762Its not based on material price you ignoramus of that was the case youd be overcharge for the historics as plastic is worth cents
>>96821741> can buy the Last War starter set for not much more.I did, zero regret
>>96821780No developer has any say over what minis I do or do not play with.
>>96821781I was sold this game on the premise of it being cheap, anti-GW, and a printer game. Now they’re doing GW stuff
>>96821762>GW is a price setter and other companies follow.Masturbatory comment ignored, just like you ignored my examples.>>96821769I mean, at this point I don't know who is buying GW stuff but I congratulate them in their success. Maybe if I didn't have a mortgage and family and 40k wasn't an overwrought snooze fest. >>96821787Seems like a much better deal.
>>96821792it is cheap if you use cardboard you cheap skate autistic tard burgeror get access to a 3d printer
>>96821799because your examples are fucking retarded and ignorant.
cheapskates entering the pricing debate is like pedos entering the free speech debate.Its not wanted
>>96821353Jesus Christ anon, the fucking rules and army lists are free on the trench crusade website, go fucking read them yourself you fucking spoonfeed begging retard.
>>96821792No one is stopping you from kitbashing or printing models, there are official STLs.
>>96821821Not for Prussians
>>96821810>>96821781>I'm actually really big brained because I and others will pay this much for toy soldiers and you should do the sameNo man who understands economics is spending that much on their modelling hobby.
>>96821741>buy the Last War starter set>buy two or three official TC plastic kits>smash them together to make a dozen warbands
>>96821816This is cheapskate game, at least 60-70% of players probably got their STLs from telegram
>>96821833and i dont. Fail ad hominem>>96821836i got 20 bucks of stls from the KS (and the silly duffers accidentally gave me an extra one shhh)Im very satisfied.
>>96821372Nothing right now. Mag28 and associated progressive faggots had a massive shitfight when people started bitching about not having Aztecs and feather Indians, and others pointed out that the new world would have problematic themes of colonialism and oppression if the natives were forced into the Christian/Antichristian dichotomy. They banned any non-leftist talking points and ended up eating each other anyway. Fucking leftist dipshits.
US purchasers be aware, there is a 15% Trump Tax on your orders, $57.50 before shipping.
>>96821849>hurls vituperatives>"but that day...I...rose above them"Ok piggy
>>96821855Insults are not ad hominem, they are insultshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG-AYVb3LGA
>>96821799>Seems like a much better deal.I got a box of Russian WW1 infantry at the same time and gussied them up with some Napoleonic gubbins left over from a friend’s Turnip 28 project, they turned out great.
>>96821828Oh ok, I guess no more kitbashing and printing for Prussians because they got a plastic box
>>96821865>Turnip 28What happened with that one anyway? Stopped hearing about it around the same time TC started getting shilled here.
>some guy arguing a box being half the price of another company's overpriced box is not a better dealfucking hell
>>96821892NTA but it developed a small but dedicated fan base. See it played by a few guys in my store every now and then.
>>96821892It still exists. Max is currently working on it's expansion, The Shattered Lance, which is adding new cults and campaign stuff. In the interim he's been at events and doing painting/modeling contents. It was delay a lot due to a pipe burst in his apartment while he was out of the country.
>>96821892Had a successful expansion kickstarter about a year ago, but it's always been too fundamentally artsy to grow in any really fast way.
>>96821947>too artsykinda ironic TC was basically the same thing, Pretty convinced a bunch of these projects were made to entertain the arty Instagram crowd. Then the controversy and dingbat leftloons shilling it blew it up.
>>96821910>>96821914I see, guess sometimes staying small and stable is better that rising to internet fame and all sorts of undue attention that comes with it.Also remined to close main valve whenever you're leaving for more than two days.
>>96821999>small and stableHe's pulling $4000+ USD a month on patreon.
>>96821968TC was a Franchina's artstation worldbuilding project for years before any sort of game, so could cohesively be transitioned into a product.Turnip was always wrapped up in being an offshoot of the inq28 miniatures-as-art movement - foundationally themed on gluing lumps of garden detritus and dried vegetation to Napoleonic miniatures.Both have their roots in artsy soil, but Turnip's run a lot deeper.
>>96822023Not a lot of income for a mini game. TC makes way more
>>96821758Fair enough.But now my suspicion is on the political alignment of the sculptor.McCarthy was a wise man.
>>96822028That said, a basic plastic sprue full of those long warped houndskull style helmets and other on-theme heads would be a great product.
>>96822046You're an insufferable faggot that needs to go back to /40kg/.
>>96822046And you suck even more cock that he did.
These models do not match the vibe of the OG artwork.
>>96820852It's not old testament, retard. The protestant reformation never happened (or at least didn't happen like it did irl).
>>96822023~$48,000 a year before taxes and expenses isn't a lot anon.
>>96822186It’s just the paint scheme desu anon, it’s too bright and uses NMM
>>96822222This. Thats less than your average 9 to 5 office job. A nice bonus on top of having that job, thats for sure, but nothing to get rich from if its the only income source.
>>96822222>>96822238It's enough to ensure you don't have to work full time.Plus there's also sales of the .stl files, which isn't public.
>>96822226I'm ambivalent towards the grunts but god damn this is a great design
>£15 for shipping on the PrussiansI’ll pass thanks
>>96823365Depends on where you order them from i guess? Northstar has them on preorder too.
>>96822226>you'll never charge through no-man's-land with your bros (and cute tomboys) to carve apart cursed tanks and hellish monsters alike with giant fuckoff swords>you'll never be this dripUgh.
>Prussian mechanized infantry statue at the boothPlastic kit #2 is going to be an expansion for Prussians with their missing units from this first box.
>>96824076I sleep until they give me fucking dirge models
>>96824076don't careno STL no buyI'll just wait for a scan or talented Russian to recreate it in blender
>>96824363Fr, I like to mesh and create new STLs when my models equipment change or they get upgraded. Monopose plastic figs with limited options aren’t it
> see product art> immediately ctrl-f "woman"> only one manlet complaining in the whole threadYou guys ain't all bad. Maybe I'll pick this game up.
>>96824396the whole game was marketed on kitbashing and 3d printingI don't see how tc is different from any other dime a dozen tabletop if they're just going to sell plastic kits. it feels doubly weird considering these are the only "official" models you can't print yourself. feels bush league, dishonest and disorganized. I'm not paying some shitty company in bumfuck whogivesafuckland a premium + shipping + tax + import fees to do what I can do from my own basement for a fraction of the price. there's no real reason not to sell the stls other than greed
>>96824434It absolutely is marketing for normies who refuse to touch anything with the words ‘3D printing’ for some reason. Don’t get me wrong they are nice models but the are pretty fucking incompatible for campaign play. Everybody I’ve played with tailors their models as they go to show their equipment.I get these guys want to make money but I would’ve much rather seen campaign books and STLS. More sub factions written by the actual creators and not WestFAILia
>>96824486I don't even care if they're selling plastic kits, the part that annoys me is that they're not also selling the stls like they have for everything else. That very clearly indicates to me the direction that TC will take in the future
>>96824524On top of this they’ve also taken down Trench crusade STLs that too closely match the art, particularly Prussian ones.I know the ‘reason’ is that plastic moulding is done by Archon who don’t sell STLs and would probably be pissed. But surely they could have looked for a provider that would be fine with it
>>96824552Id be surprised if Archon has anything to do with it, it's not their IP. They're just contracted to make the kits, they get paid the same whether stls exist or not. Factory Fortress could sell stls if they wanted to
>>96824552They’ve content nuked 3rd party TC Stls? Lmao
>>96824434>>96824486>>96824524>>96824552You guys just have your pissers in a twist because you know a coherent well-designed kit puts your shitbashed warbands to paid.You could only stand them up when the opposite aesthetic was "nothing that exists."
>>96825061>well designed>doesn’t even contain the basic options for your factions equipment>Monopose in a campaign style game>Named characters Biggest miss of the thread
>>96825061are you fuckin retarded? I want the stls of their "coherent well-designed kit" so I can print them you moron booteater
Total Proonter Death vs. HIPS Master Race
>>96825652Genuinely (besides bait) what’s the point of this stance. We currently have ONE plastic kit, that doesn’t even build out the full subfaction and its options. It’ll be years before even half of the subfactions are fully playable with plastic
>>96820749A good WW1 Officer is eccentric.Assuming roughly similar shows of competence, you'd rather march into hell behind a cutsey maniac Luitenant with a big sword, who takes efforts to look cute while swinging it, than some random takes-himself-too-seriously toff who doesn't actually command or fight any better.
>>96816212They get lots of submarine guns.
>>96825854Expending time and effort to look cute while in the middle of a war is a demonstration of incompetence.
>>96825918Trench warfare is 95% boredom and mind numbing routine of maintaining your dig-ins and watching horizon for signs of enemy actvity, 4% pants shitting terror of hiding from shelling, gas, or repelling enemy charges and 1% even worse terror of near-certain death trying to push the advance yourself.Meaning most of the times there will be time to spare for doing your hair.
>>96824552Source on them taking down STLs?
>>96822258>It's enough to ensure you don't have to work full timeRight so as the other anon said it's>small and stableAlso I doubt STL sales are anything close to half of that a month.
>>96824434>the whole game was marketed on kitbashing and 3d printingThere's no growth in that business model.
>>96824486>the picrel contains parts from various plastic kits
>>96826029So they’re proving GW was right all along? Hugely expensive plastic kits are the only way to make it?
>>96826040Picrel is westfailias STLs?
>>96826075Yes
>>96826084Sad
>>96821372Nothing really.Colonization of the new world didn't happen.You're absolutely allowed to theme your warbands after Chinese/ Native american/ Pacifica peoples I wrote a thing for a Māori Pilgrim Warband myself. And I know some guy made a Heretic legion warband themed on Aztec blood sacrifices and their religion being demon worship (a mod famously thought this was 'problematic', but this got overturned after everyone else, including the Devs, told him he was being retarded. That's the whole story, I was there).But that's very much a 'yourdudes' thing. And given these guys, I can't really see them expanding out into the new world, just because some Americans wanted representation tbqh.>>96825918>Anon knows nothing of WW1 history and Officer culture.
>>96824486>Everybody I’ve played with tailors their models as they go to show their equipment.How? Magnets?
>>96817731Gay for Gaza
>>96817731It means Muhammad went for a walk in the desert and got bummed by a load of naked blokes
>>96821753>>96821745>>96821718The closest recent equivalent to this box is the skurleton box from archon. 18 minis for 29€. That is a 2/3 price increase on a box tith less than half the amount of models. The TC upcharge is real
>>96824076>Platform shoes
>>96826368It’s supposed to be a 3D Proonter game, you’d 3d print and paint a new guy, or magnets
>>96827540>print and paint an entirely new model every time you want to swap a weapon What a pointless waste of time. The amount you'd be doing that in a campaign, you could've spent that time on an entirely new warband to play.
So I guess we're not doing lore pdf's anymore, they're just posting it directly to the website on a webpage now. Nice of them not to announce this.Maximilian-class Knight lore.
>>96817738Everything to do with the Turks makes no fucking sense>hmmyes let us settle all of the islamic world in persia>let's make it ottomans because we're retardsi will never not be mad about that.you have all the islamic world to play with and you make them turks, the worst.also cosmological islam makes no sense, one of the two have to be right (Christians, or muslims.) but they don't want to make a stand there but they are going to say christian are le bad.
>>96826471>prodos games uh
>>96821772>the prussians are 76 buckslook Macca, i get it but uh, does the vendor have a warehouse in your location?because i think you're paying Europe to Aussie shipping costs.and dutiesBuy WGA and kitbashor 3d.
Call me in when they add hot girls in battle bondage, tits outIt just screams too american for me, when I see 30 models, and it's 28 hellscape and gore, and 2 tits, and one of those is in a male-coded construct
>>96821772Perry Prussians are like sixty-sixty five aud for a box of 40.WGA WW1 Germans about the same for 24.>>96821781>it's worth what people will pay!>yeah, but I won't pay that much>*seethes psychotically*You can get these as individual sprues from war library for about 15 aud
>>96826075No, you can release thematic bulk packs bits of a faction, and then sell posed bare-models.So you can focus on making new models more often, and the fanbase can customize them at will
>>96828094I mean I would probably spend the same buying a sprue here or there but fuck it, this is kind of part of the process. I still can't wrap my had around people spending as much on a character model. Maybe I'm just so stingy or /awg/ even the historical stuff I like is because they do good double duty as fantasy humans. >>96828041It's just weird because I have got other Archon stuff, namely sci fi vehicles, quite cheap. There is definitely a premium attached. Hope you get a lot of spare bits. My parts library is big enough that I could probably throw something together.
>>96828127I'm just giving you alternative way of "making it" while leaving freedom to kitbash, that neither TC nor GW do
>>96828180Fo shoNo harm no foulIdeally there will be a good spread of people buying the kits and kitbashing and both
>>96826075>hugely expensive >$50>Hugely expensive Seriously?
>>96826075Plastic has always been the only way to make it. Printing is a fun gimmick, not a scalable business model.
>>96825918A retarded and spiritually vacuous thought.
>>96828004>of the two have to be right (Christians, or muslims.Both of them are 90% wrong. The 10% they have roughly right is material they have in common.
>>96828004the fact they are called "IS" is pretty on the nose.
>>96824076>>96826713It's a miniature, not a statue. Pirinen is just that tiny.
I just spent $2000 dollarydoos on a complete new 3d printing setup in the elegoo black friday sale and am looking forward to shitting out huge numbers of TC models
>>96827800It's fucking crazy to watch The Proonter's mind at work.Like that was never a thing in any era of wargaming. However much of a nostalgiafag you are, you already know nobody was building a new model with different parts every time you bought them a new item in a campaign game in 1995.These proontfags don't care about the tradition of wargaming OR the advancement of wargaming (which is the ongoing battle). They want wargaming to fully morph into whatever lets them get the best feeling from their main hobby, printing actual machinejunk.
>>96828004>you have all the islamic world to play with and you make them turks, the worst.Turks are the "safe horny" of Middle Eastern nationalities to the West.
>>96829291The amount of effort /tg/ puts into turning personal hobby decisions into malicious actions is astonishing
>>96829342It didn't take effort to read the posts of Proontlets going "this was supposed to be a pure printing game! Vile betrayal!!!"
What's up with that panic over a new plastic set, like they are going to outlaw proonters and kitbashing lolI don't like resin so I welcome plastic, can't wait to kitbash these Prussians with my other historical bits
>>96829389TC's a magnet for this posting>image1:1 scale kit LETS GOOOOOO
>>96829397>this posting*shitpostingtired :(
>>96829362You sound like you’re bitter that you can’t afford a printer, non.
>>96826713kekkedy
>>96828336Everyone in TC community says GWs 50 USD Guard Kits are too expensive, and then TC drops a 50 USD kit with fewer models (and 15% Trump Tip) and says “it’s totally ok guys, they have to make expensive kits with no options!”
>>96829859I think as a direct comparison of price to model count yes you’re right. But one guard infantry kit is 3.25% of a 2K list whereas the trench crusade kit is roughly 50% of what you need late campaign depending on equipment.I’m not buying it anyway though
>>96829904It's the same comparison infinity has but slightly worse. only a couple years back i could buy a box for like 50 and it would be a 200 point army.now everything's a full army for 100 and good luck getting the minis inside without buying it.
>>96828596if it was the jews are correct i'd be happy,I was going to play hebrew knight anyway.
>>96829859Why is it that every other miniature producer thinks they can get away with GW level prices? GW at least had the decency to spend 30+ years building a customer base before jacking up the prices
>>96830206They all sell their stuff as “alternatives to evil GW!” while seething that they aren’t the big kid on the block like GW.
>>96825877oh nice
