first for scythe sucks

>>96824195
>What is a game that you have mastered?
Carnegie. Even with the expansion content, going all in on certain tiles/departments makes the game easy and more difficult for others.
>How would you deal with someone cheating in your group?
I had this happen recently during a game of Search for Planet X. One of the players, a grown man in his late forties even, was trying to look at my board on the sly. Like not in a "lol, I can see your board!" way but a creepy kind of trying to side eye over top of the screen way. I just stop playing games with those types of individuals. Most of the other stuff I've seen isn't cheating as much as not understanding the rules. I played Power Grid with a husband and wife that were adamant that you could not build through a connection if it already had an opponent building on it. Like frothing mad that I even mentioned that they'd been playing it wrong for years. I point out the rule and then try to avoid playing with them, too.
>What's something you'd change about your favorite game?
I'd update the art in Race for the Galaxy.

>>96824403
You play with strangers?

>>96824460
Jokes on you - I'm actually the stranger. I float around in a bunch of groups so I can pick and choose what I'm playing and don't get stuck playing kickstarter of the month every time.

>>96824511
any milfs in those groups btw?

As a small box game are these worth it:
> Omen a Reign of war (heard it was good as a good 1v1 battler but not sure if it's that great or it's just cause it not that known)
> Reforest (no idea)
> Pax Illuminaten (looks interesting but not sure if it's on parr with other pax games)
> Air, Land and Sea
> Arboretum (used to be pretty popular)
> Knarr

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>>96824576
maybe

>>96824585
>Arboretum
This game is acid. It is blood cancer. Truly, it nettles me to the very solar plexus. A godless, little bitch of a thing that sings with Christmas-y glee every time it devours my hopes and bedevils my dreams. At first blush, I thought it some manic pixie dream girl. I was wrong; consider me deliciously subverted. It turns out the game doesn't love me back. Well, sometimes I'm convinced it does. It's complicated. But I'm in too deep now. Remember that part in Hellraiser when Spike Lee says: "The Box. You opened it. We came"? He was talking about the artwork by Guérin and Quilliams. Admittedly, I shared a similar biological response. God, what a pretty puzzle. Tart. Acerbic. Hateful. And agonisingly unassuming. I won't stop thinking about it – I can't. It stares at me through mirrors that refuse to bear my reflection. It whistles through lips gleaming with my still-wet bile. It busks gladfully at my expense - see its tip bucket filled to brim with my own very organs. No tears, please. It's a waste of good suffering.

>>96824195
>Jeroen, Joris, Daan & Thijs
Doesn't get any dutcher than this
Al die willen te kaap'ren varen...

>>96824195
>Bus
This game is unmannered.
9/10.

>>96824232
Based, correct-anon

>>96824643
But is the gameplay good?

>>96824585
Arboretum and Knarr are good, can't imagine they're that expensive either. Haven't played the others.

>>96824585
think about Castles of burgundy the card game.

>>96824619
Quentin tarantino made a board game?

>>96824232
it should've just been Company of Heroes but with mechs instead of tanks. Thankfully the videogame (Iron Harvest) is exactly like that.

>>96824585
>> Air, Land and Sea
it's pretty good, simple and once you know all the 14 cards you can really start bluffing and get wins you're not supposed to win becaue my opp got scared and thinks you got the Escalation card and that's why i'm playing all my cards face down, while in reality it's to hide that i got jack squat and i know he has coinflip odds to get the Heavy Tanks, Planes, and Battleship in his hand, and i hope that he only got one and not two of them AND didn't get Escalation.for himself cause then the ruse is busted

>>96825279
>Arboretum
Can you explain this >>96824643 ?

Also do you prefer Knarr or Arboretum?

>>96825740
Not that anon but I think both are pretty good. At the moment I prefer Knarr. It's not as brainburny as arboretum by far (if that's good or bad depends on mood) and somehow manages the absurd feat of feeling like a much bigger and longer game than it is. One of the few games to successfully compress a midweight game into a sub-30 min experience. It's also much better at 3p than you'd think albeit clearly at its best at 2p

>>96825490
>Castles of burgundy the card game.
is that still being printed or do I have to contact some weird european seller?

>Troyes: The Dice Game
>The Castles of Burgundy: The Dice Game
wtf werent those already dice games?

>>96826120
Do you not like dice?

Why do games take so long to be released? Once they are designed, illustrated and everything, why does distribution take so long? youtube hacks have played games from 1 or 2 years ago that havent even been released. Why?

>>96824585
Arboretum looks cute but gameplay is not cute.

>When the deck is exhausted, players compare the cards that remain in their hands to determine who can score each color. For each color, the player(s) with the highest value of cards in hand of that color scores for a path of trees in her arboretum that begins and ends with that color;

>If a player doesn't have the most value for a color, he scores zero points for a path that begins and ends with that color.

That's kinda evil design.

Arboretum will mind rape you. DO NOT play if you want an easy going game. Last warning.

>>96826260
China

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Yay or nay?

>>96826361
Gay

>>96826361
meh

>>96821189
I’d say the must haves are pretty low. Too many varying opinions on…everything:
>Campaigns
Carcossa
Forgotten Age
>Investigators
>Dunwich
>Carcossa
>Scenarios
>Excelsior Hotel
Personally I own Dunwich, Carcossa, Forgotten Age, and Hemlock Vale for campaigns and Dunwich, Carcossa, and Forgotten Age for investigators. I *would* like Circle Undone or Dreamlands for investigators too but it’s not necessary. Next campaign I was planning on getting Innsmouth but I guess it’ll be Drowned City lol.

Is Sol better than Arcs?

>>96826808
we hate wehlre we hate wehrle

>>96826808
Two totally different experiences.
I enjoy both.

>>96826808
>is a mechanic's shop better than a mexican standoff?

>>96826808
it’s certainly more elegant

>>96826260
Boats are so slow you have no idea.

>>96826033
You have to contact some weird European seller. They probably want like $10 though.

>>96826033
There's a lot LOT of them on the secondary market for cheap. Like ~10 euro

>>96826361
I saw this at a game night recently. The table playing Dune Imperium started later and finished earlier. It could have been an issue with the players though.

>>96827067
Boats are plenty fast. The oceans are too big.

>>96826808
No idea but I find Sol so weird in terms of artstyle.
>minimalistic, sleek art
>Overproduced but heavily abstract plastic unit pieces
>The board is a photorealistic picture of the sun
Usually I don't mind but this mixture feel very weird to me

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>>96827285

>>96826510
Thanks for the rundown, anon. I appreciate it. Looks like Carcosa and Forgotten Age are top of most lists from what I have seen on YT. Now it's a matter of waiting to pounce on a reasonable price. Ebay sellers are already pricing them like long OOP games. At that point I would rather just buy 3KR since it actually is long OOP and discussed a lot here lately. That may just be the contrarian in me though.

Redpill me on Arkham Horror LCG vs Arkham Horror: The Card Game vs Elder Sign. Are they all worth it?

>>96827728
None of them are worth it

Also the LCG and Card Game are the same thing lol

>>96827790
>None of them are worth it
Oof.
>Also the LCG and Card Game are the same thing lol
My bad. I was thinking of the board game:
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/257499/arkham-horror-third-edition

I want to figure out who in my group is secretly a jew. Which economic game will force them to rub their hands uncontrollably? I looked at Ponzi Scheme but it doesn't look like what our group would usually play and I need to be subtle

>>96824585
Are omen and reforest even available? Omen is supposed to be a pretty good duel game but I'm not sure how it stacks against other duel games like radlands for example.
Reforest looks like a mix of forrest shuffle and wingspan. But for a deck of cards it might be neat.
I was interested in both games but never saw then being sold anywhere so I just forgot about them.

>>96827728
Eldritch Horror is the only good one

>>96825867
How is Knarr in terms of table space?
Arboretum and CoB the card game take a lot of space for basically just a deck of cards.

>>96826120
But are they good? How are they different from the og game?

>>96826288
So your more of a Knarr guy hih?

>>96826808
Different type of games. There's an anon here that played Sol fairly recently and gave some feedback. You probably know about arcs.

>>96826120
Not enough dice. We need to go deeper.
>>96827276
My car is faster than 99% of boats out there

>>96828170
>can't detect jews just by looking at them
ngmi

>>96826260
Yutubers get the unfinished versions of the game. Not the final version.
Also a lot of essen games are available online (not as preorder), like Voynich puzzle, Seti expansion, Pilgrims, Aquaria etc.

>>96828170
You play with a group of randos or what?

>>96827285
>Sol
The style of the does look odd, a mix of different styles. I don't mind it as much but the gameplay seems like it starts slow and I question how replayable it really is.

>>96828170
Just throw a coin.

>>96828170
Railways of the Lost Atlas, or any other 18XX
If he tries to win by just being a shareholder and not a company owner, he's probably a jew. If he manages to win with that strat, he's certainly a jew, or at least he uses jewish market sorcery which is equally as bad.

>>96826033
Why the sudden interest in this game?

>>96827312
I see. But that kind of autistic thought structure clashes even more with the different styles used

>>96827312
Also reminds me of the ks game that didn't get made because the author was threatened by the sun to not give away her secrets

>>96827728
>>96828073
>Arkham Horror
2nd Edition is the Ameritrashiest of Ameritrash, for better or for worse. I’ve had fun with it before but it’s a lot to digest and you just have to accept its absurdities and randomness.
3rd edition tried to streamline things and while it’s faster and cleaner it’s kinda defeats the entire purpose of the thing. It’s very bland overall
>Arkham Horror LCG
One of my favorite games. It does a lot right for a co-op card game and some of the campaigns (especially Carcosa) carry some of my favorite gaming moments of all time. But the game suffers from a few major flaws that make it difficult to recommend:
>it’s horribly overpriced for what you get, as is usually the case with FFG products
>the new cycle format means seems to mean that lots of old content is going permanently OOP. Losing two of the three best campaigns (Carcosa, Forgotten Age) and the two most important Investigator expansions (Dunwich, Carcosa) is a massive blow for people that don’t already have them.
>While the game isn’t nearly as comically pozzed as it was a few years ago with Edge of the Earth and especially Scarlet Keys, it’s still noticeable and obnoxious. At least that crap is also getting axed lmao.

>>96828073
If you're interested I'm not going to dissuade you, but the entire genre is kind of shit. If you want to, get one of them, and keep it at one. You're not going to find anything to justify owning more.

>>96828696
Was that a different guy?

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Who SAP here?

>>96828762
i'm tempted. did they post a gameplay video yet?

>>96828708
>but the entire genre is kind of shit
Why?

>>96828742
It was a woman from what I remember and the game didn't get made despite getting funded. The sun would just have been too powerful an enemy. Also there was a funny side arc of her hating the neighbouring black family for some reason and her writing a huge schizo rant on how she isn't racist and she actually envys them for their natural shielding from the deadly sun

Wish I could remember how it was called, it's still on the gulag and ks. Really would've liked to see a genuine schizo game design

>>96828772
Because at the root of it there is no gameplay, just an "experience". Draw a card this, roll dice that. No skill involved, just a rollercoaster ride with a splat at the end, or a pat on the back at the end. If you want a proper dungeon crawler, get Gloomhaven. If you want a proper story, I don't know what to suggest (Gloomhaven is still far better even if it's just mid).

>>96828806
I would agree that Arkham Horror is just Betrayal at House on the Hill with a lot of extra steps but if that was your experience with AHLCG then all I can say is skill issue.

>>96828818
The anon was specifically talking NOT about the LCG. The LCG is great if it's your cuppa tea.

Best card battler that isn’t a TCG?

>unemployed with no prospects
>about to be evicted
>credit cards maxed out
>fridge almost empty
>buys a new board game
Forgive me, life.

>>96828823
>The anon was specifically talking NOT about the LCG
The original post was asking about all of the Arkham stuff: AH, LCG, Elder Sign, etc...
This is what he said >>96827790
>None of them are worth it
Followed up by >>96828708
>the entire genre is kind of shit
And ending with >>96828806
>at the root of it there is no gameplay, just an "experience". Draw a card this, roll dice that. No skill involved, just a rollercoaster ride with a splat at the end, or a pat on the back at the end.

Now, those are fair accusations to levy against Arkham Horror. But it sounds to me like he's including AHLCG in that in which case he's just plainly wrong.

>>96828835
Netrunner, Ashes, Summoner Wars, Mage Wars Arena, Sakura Arms

>>96828768
There's a how to play vid on the Kickstarter page. I'm not sure about it though even if I love playing super auto pets while commuting. Can't play the board game on the train.

>>96828887
I saw that one, but I'd rather get a TTS module or video of someone actually playing. i'm worried they went too simple with it

>>96828857
How's your family life? What game?

>>96828835
DC Forever is shockingly good if you don't mind deck building or capeshit

>>96828880
My melanin enriched kin of impeccable taste.

>>96828868
all me

I meant that >>96828073 wasn't interested in the LCG. The original anon was.

>>96828980
You know what, I should probably get some sleep. Bottom line, board games bad, LCG good.

>>96828868
I only made one of those posts you creepy AI-Like schizo

I do agree though, the entire genre of go here do a thing draw a le bad card is pretty shit. AH LCG is the closest to being good out of all of them but requires too much money investment to reach that point. (And pretty much only because after investing all that money you get to play some guys total overhaul mod of netrunner)

>>96828762
I'm interested but the int. shipping basically says wait for retail, I am sort of worried that the auto part will make it untableable with basically anyone I game with as I dont know anyone that wants to sit there and pretend to be a computer

>>96829019
>only made one of those posts you creepy AI-Like schizo
Oh fuck off, how was I supposed to know that?
>AH LCG is the closest to being good out of all of them but requires too much money investment to reach that point
On that I agree. Unless you have a lot of disposable income getting multiple investigator expansions plus the good campaigns is just a huge sink.

I'm bringing Hansa Teutonica to my board game club
how to maximize fun while playing it? From what i've red it seems that the action gain is a must asap on standard map. Is this a big problem?

>>96829101
>action gain is a must asap on standard map
not necessarily, there are multiple paths to victory, action gain is nice to have but not a must if it takes you too long or too many displaces. Imo book upgrade (the one that gives you more discs and allows you to move more) is pretty strong

>>96829101
Yes, actions is the strongest upgrade. That is why player 1 and 2 will put their first cubes there. But player 3 will put blocking disk and cube there. People fighting for the action upgrade will end up paying more than people getting the other (weaker) upgrades. Actions is only OP if people don't contest. The other upgrades also have value. The extra disk is almost mandatory for the east-west route, orange privilege is also needed. Bag is only a little worse than actions, and keys give a massive point bump. If someone gets to 5 actions you should already be closing out the game to prevent them from actually using them.

Like all games, Hansa is a bidding game, and if you think someone is underbidding for a space, you make it more expensive by putting in a blocking cube or disk.

>>96829101
Personally, a lot of my fun with boardgames comes from exploring them. Don't take it away from players. Though I guess a small pointer just as you are thinking about is ok

Any anon that tried Railway Boom and can share their thoughts? Or if there's anything else that's good at Essen?

>>96829413
>That is why player 1 and 2 will put their first cubes there. But player 3 will put blocking disk and cube there.
sorry, did you mean "put elsewhere"?

>>96829880
No,but the but was incorrect. At the start of the game the board is empty, and extra actions is strongest. So you put your pieces there.

>>96828762
i played the vidya nd didnt find it fun, so no i'm not on the SAP hype train

>>96829101
actions space will have the highest competition so you want to block it with a trader or a merchant, you know, have your finger in that pie while using your spoons and forks on all other juicy spaces, like move action upgrade to reap benefits of being displaced all the time, or connecting a large network of cheap routes, or getting the bonus disks (some of them also give actions or can upgrade your board which includes actions, so really the actions route is not the only way to get more actions)

>>96830110
>or getting the bonus disks
What are your thoughts on the changes the Big Box makes to the disks?

>>96824195
Anyone else at the Essen orgy last night? Much better than Gecon’s euros much better looking

>>96830153
I have only played the big box. The only change I know off is the change to the "remove 3 pieces" plate

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I've never seen so many camels in my life

>>96830246
I was the guy in the threesome with the 2 milfs (one works for Asmodee, the other for Ravensburger).

>Arkham Horror
So...
LCG = good (but expensive)
Board game = bad (but sometimes fun)
Dice game = ?

>>96830249
The old version of the disk that switches the order of two adjacent offices can switch the offices of two opponents (or even two offices of the same player, if you want to waste it). In the new version exactly one of the offices you are switching has to be your own (although you can still use it to swap your opponent forward, if you want to).
It's a minor change, but strictly a nerf.

The only other change is the remove 3 pieces disk becoming the move 3 opponents pieces disk, which is generally worse but not strictly worse.

>>96830282
I could be mistaken but I don't think that camel is allowed in that tree.

>>96828868
>>96828823
It's semi-true about the lcg as well, sure there's some skill involved but the deck construction is largely a meme, randomness determines the major part of what happens. Plus, and this might be my personal problem, but the game by its nature gives you a rather tight narrative road including, traps and red herrings. Oh this path was a dead end, guess I'll die to the doomtrack :^) and never even touch that part again. The exploration is cool and all....exactly once. It then falls into a similar genre as Time Stories but with the additional element of sometimes getting absolutely hammered by variance. I do like the idea of the design, but never really got much out of it. It treads the path I find boardgames should not; non-emergent storytelling. So much of the game is admin, so much of the story is reading cards aloud. And, if ffgs direction continued the way it seemed, the newer expansions will probably see a native american trans P.I., kill cthulu with a shotgun

>>96828762
Not gonna hold my breath. Best they could do would be a 1:1 implementation of the vidya, and that'd be far, FAR too much admin. Maybe someone uses the same voodoo that made sts a good game to everyone's suprise, but I'd argue SAP is so popular precisely because it's so short, comfy and to the point. Three qualities I doubt the boardgame version can possibly share

>>96828762
Never even heard of the video gayme until today

>>96830457
>sure there's some skill involved but the deck construction is largely a meme
stopped reading here

>>96829019
>am sort of worried that the auto part will make it untableable with basically anyone I game with as I dont know anyone that wants to sit there and pretend to be a computer
well you're actually the one playing because you have to manage everything in the physical game

>>96824195
Vital has become a weird mirror universe cole wehrle. Inventions and this both present themselves as these grand tapestries where you play out specific dramas. Inventions is gesturing at a technology-driven historical materialism; Speakeasy is the economy of prohibition made abstract. Both are big cool ideas, but the process of playing both is action layered critical path goop, where for some reason producing at your still and robbing a rumrunner boat are tied to the same action. Everything is layered into incoherence in a way that I find very unsatisfying.

I miss when he made games like On Mars, where everything is tightly wound around constructing and running the shared colony. Each game since weather machine has become more and more glorpy

Remember when something like in pic got you excited about a game?

>>96830489
Just played the video game for the first time. There's money, changing market, effects, health and attack upgrades. I could see it working but it wouldn't be as quick as the video game, far too much admin like you say. Games last like 30 seconds or less. In physical that would be like 3-5 min.

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>>96830677
Nevermind, I suck cocks

>>96830682
I haven't looked at the boardgame but they'd very much have to tone it down a lot (can't calculate that fast with numbers above 10 or so) and lose a lot of granularity in the process. Granularity, which I think is the reason SAP is pretty fun.

>>96830687
What’s this?

>>96830687
Isn't this Revive? Thoughts about Recall, the new game they call the new Revive?

>>96830701
Im retarded, Revive does not look like that. But it's Recall so I still nailed it. Anyway, thoughts?

>>96830699
It is recall, just as >>96830701 implied
I posted it because this was the type of board that got me excited 10 or so years ago. Now it has the opposite effect, especially these revive like games with a TON of setup

>>96830720
Yep, the long setup and sheer amount of moving parts and shit games have has been the main reason I nope out of getting new games

>>96825740
I prefer Arboretum. It's more interactive than Knarr and feels less like a filler weight game you're only playing to kill 20 minutes at the end of the night.

>>96829413
This isn't true at all, even contested. It's much much much more advantageous to get extra actions early to the point of pushing a player out to give them an extra placement isn't a big deal. All of the other stuff you pointed out is fair but that stuff doesn't matter until mid/late game.

>>96830682
It's not a 1:1 copy but I guess it translates the spirit of the game.
>Each player has 3x gold and every card costs 1 gold (gold is reset every round)
>You can sell your pet cards but they give you disposable food cards, not money.
>Some cards can be acquired by having matching symbols in cards from your hand
>Pets are ordered by tiers. Every deck has a different tier. On round 1 you get a card market from tier 1, and so on.
>Health and attack are the same stat "power" rather than two stats.
>You arrange your cards in a face up stack. Your first cards go against your opponent's first cards, etc.
>Each pet can have different food cards on it but you choose which one to use.
>Damage is tracked with red cubes.
>When a pet is defeated or is attacked certain effects may activate
>Some pets "throw rocks" which means rolling dice, each rock icon on the dice is an attack.
>Last pet standing after a battle wins a trophy. Player with the most trophies after 6 rounds wins the game.

>>96828806
>>96828772
>If you want a proper story, I don't know what to suggest
Sleeping Gods. Be aware that it's a campaign game and it's LONG so finding a consistent group to play/read it with will be the hard part.