Previous: >>96821041Green Card edition>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.com/https://www.pdhrec.com/>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Make custom cardshttps://magicseteditor.boards.nethttps://mtg.designhttps://mtgcardsmith.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>Thread themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ4Z9Zq2GAY>TQ:Whats your favorite Green card
I love hyperspecific cards that do something weird.
>TQthe real workhorse of my xenagos deck
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>96827680>Whats your favorite Green cardthree visits
>>96827521Re postin the question:How do we save Myriad?
>TQsilver bullets in greendon't mind paying extra for choice
Someone asked last thread to see one of my mats. So I guess post mats
>>96827792what is there to save ?it is a nice toolsac pings are nice
Causes seethe every time. Nothing feels closer to slapping your giant cock on the table.
>>96827914Forgot pic
cough
How do I keep this little nigga alive for more than 1 millisecond?
You know sometimes I think people won't self-report that they're retarded on the Internet, then I see a Commander player voice their opinions on the format.
Yeah I'm using these
>>96827687>Painter's Servant>Cast when an opponent does something on your turnI forgot how much I loved this fucker during my Johnny days.
>>96827680>TQI refuse to play green cause it's a shit color.Also yes I play Red how could you tell?
Fair and still strong
Gabin help me! I need more cards for my Mono-White Goblin deck.
>>96828000Same way anybody does: protection and reanimation. You are playing white, and probably black. You should have ample access to both. Nobody likes running blacksmith's skill or whatever, but if you need to keep something alive, you gotta run shit like that.
>>96827680>Whats your favorite Green cardEasy.
>UNBAN MY ZESTY ELF YOU WOTC FUCKERS
>>96828283This isn't how greentext is used, retard.
>>96827680>tq
Reminder: the hybrid mana change will happen. The decision has already been made.
>>96828443What's being changed I haven't heard of this?
>>96828443can't wait to put uhhhhConclave Evangelist, Oracle of Nectars, and.. Blade Historian? in white/black clerics.
Is Thassa's really that cheesey if I have 20+ devotion to blue and exiled most of my deck with magus of the mind/minds desire? I can replace this with lab maniachttps://archidekt.com/decks/16586815
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>>96828443If you play a hybrid mana in a deck that doesn't have those colors I will rip up your card and tell you to go to another pod.
>>96828558no you won't, you won't even say anything about it like the manbaby you are
>>96828565Your cards are already in the trashcan, bro. You don't even know it yet.
>>96828570sure, buddy, whatever you say
>>96828575>And then he said "sure, buddy, whatever you say." Can you believe it? He gave up so easily. Yeah babe, let's get the caviar for an appetizer.
>>96828443Good.
>>96828589Why did you call your mom "babe"? Is she not supposed to leave you alone, she always sits in the back when you're here and you really aren't that nice to her when you make her buy you cards.
>>96828558No you won't.You're a conflict averse little bitch.I could whip out a fucking vexing shusher in my mono green deck NOW, before the rules change is locked in, and you'll mumble out some quiet objection that everyone will ignore because they've already started to turn out those annoying little whinges you have.
>>96828443Cool. Most hybrid cards are pretty niche shit. Maybe I'll use more of them now.
>>96828558What are they doing to hybrid mana??
>>96828597>goes into a simic decklame
>>96828604If you do that your deck would be going through the paper shredder, and there is not a god damn thing you could do about it.
>>96828529bumpI really want to make a Innala/magus deck but trying to find wincon
Has anyone made an unorthodox infect deck like mono red or mono white and have it actually work? I want to make an infect deck but not rely on black or green.
>>96827910Never stop believing, Toski poster, never stop believing!
>>96828529Thoracle is only cheese if you're using the combos that exile your whole deck. Doing it honestly is soul.
>>96828599>>96828604Embarrassing display fellas. Gunna be hard to tape those cards back together with all those tears in your eyes.
>>96827910I hate you. You can't just keep posting it. Fuck you.
>>96828812They're answering the TQ settle down.
>>96828443>sunset the old format and start a new commander format with 5 separate mini-formats with specialized rules>This is fine>Change Hybrid mana>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>96828558If you touch my property I have a legal right to lethal force in numerous states.
>>96828856>this is fineLiterally NO ONE wanted Brackets. This is revisionist autism and I won't tolerate it.
>>96828867HAHAHAHAHABrackets are so heavily defended here it is actually insane. Go fuck yourself you lying golem of a human being. No one would miss you at all you worthless worm.
>>96828529It isn't cheese. But expect retards to whine anyway due to an inflexible mind.
>>96828869I don't know what bizzaro version of 4chan you're reading off of, but no one likes/wanted brackets and we've been shitting on them/angleshooting since day 1.
>>96828014Is Urza really that bad when I cast him in my Eggman deck?
>>96827680>Whats your favorite Green cardThey never see it comin'
>>96827687I am running this and I am yet to cast it.
>>96828895I can't wait to play it more in my Marisi deck. Let them beat each other with artifacts!
>>96828935I mainly have it to absolutely anal rape artifact token users.
I wish I could use coomer things
>>96828895Not sure what deck I'd use it in, but I may need to pick one of these up.
>>96828895Kek, I definitely would not see that coming in monogreen.
>>96829004Are you pro or anti hybrid changes?
>>96829016Hybrid cards are multicolor cards
>>96828443>Hybrid mana change before legalized silver border cards>RC was going to do it before they got suddenly axed>will never get legal silver border nowIT'S NOT FAIR!!!
>>96829023...just ask to play them, retard.
>>96829034No.
>>96829035>NO I HAVE TO HAVE THE RULES CHANGE TO FORCE MY AUTISM ON YOUTranny.
>>96829022Rare Swordbro L
>>96829022>times so grim and so shitty that even a tripfag makes sense
I miss the old Un- sets where there was no expectation of legality. They could do whatever nonsense they wanted without having to worry about balance or the meta.
>>96829040Sorry, bud. I genuinely consider them both since they are multicolor, just with a neat design that makes them easier to cast and easier to use in formats that don't have color identity.>>96829042I genuinely just dislike WotC becoming too comfortable changing the rules.
>>96829037You ok?
>>96828443If true that will change the color identity of decks it can go into.Colorless cards can go into 100 percent of decks.Monocolor cards can go into 50 percents.2 colors 25 percent.3 colors 12.5 percent.So hybrid can go into 75 percent of decks.
DA KING IN DA NORF
What is the best zombie precon out of grave danger, undead unleashed, and eternal might? Looking for a fun out of the box play experience.
>>96828443Obviously.What you didn't know however is that there's going to be a Jem and the Holograms Universes Beyond
>>96829240The one that isn't a starter deck and isn't 125 dollars.
i have an Azusa lands deck, but its pretty generic, not really that exciting to play. Has all the usual staples.Was considering turning it into a more graveyard land focused deck, so was either looking at Lumra or Titania? I have both Titanias in the deck atm as sort of 'secret commanders' I saw some stuff with like Lumra loops in cEDH that was cool and wondered if it could be used as a combo ender in a casual game (my pod is nearly all bracket 4) but idk if Lumra is that good as a commander outside of that and if i'd be better of making the commander Titania?Anyone got a deck with either?
>>96829278I didn't think the starter deck looked that bad. It has a lot of similar cards to the more expensive undead unleashed
>group wants to do Tiny Leaders because one of them gets butthurt that he can't politicWhat is the best deck to cheese it? I was thinking of Feather.
Honest thoughts on Infinite Guideline Station as a commander?
>>96829411> wubrg slop> ub slop> do thing draw card slop
>>96829435>wubrg badshit take.>UBit isn't, it's from EoE a set just as canon as Urza's Saga, Alpha, and Mirrodin.>Drawing cards in a card game badWhy do you even talk?>>96829411It's probably fun if you can keep up with it, but be warned that you should keep a running count of your multi-colored permanents as to not make your turns more confusing than they have to be. What is the goal here?
>>96827707I run that fella in my Goreclaw deck
>>96829369Any combo list is better in tiny leaders. The small deck size makes it really easy to assemble combos. Just pick something like pic related which has a ton of combo redundancy under 3cmc and collect your wins.
I want to build an artifact token deck. recommend me good commanders/strats.
Anyone here play this card? It's really intriguing to me but I haven't actually drawn it yet since adding it to a deck.> Copying spells for 0 mana after initial investment of 4> Which is a perfectly fine turn 3 after a turn 2 ramp piece> Can be untapped for more free copies, won't even add to the time counters> Tezzeret tutors and/or untaps it> Chances are after you cast and copy six spells, you'll win anyway> If you have 6 counters on it, you can cast a disenchant or bounce, copy it, target the recording with the copy, and have that resolve before the 7th counter it put on it> You can do this with Garth One-Eye's disenchant> You can cast a Bring to Light or Mizzix's Mastery, then tap the recording in response to copy the free spell> You can copy spells that make token copies of this and end up with three cursed recordings
>>96829480Im tempted by it. I guess its good enough. But I dont have it in my izzet deck. Probably good to have a way to sacrifice it somehow.
>>96829470Fully depends on what you're looking for, and in what colors, but here's some.>Mono Blue UrzaGenerally you use this to make tokens for big mana and stax people out with things like Trinisphere, Static/Winter Orb, and run your way into a combo finisher>Esper UrzaMuch more combat focused, generating Karnstructs every turn with access to white for token doubling. You can obviously play this with a control angle, or just with lots of small dudes to make Urza cheaper to play and get it rolling faster>Grixis Mishra (Eminent One)Make copies of literally anything, slap people with them, double up on ETB and Attack triggers with it. Could win through combat or dig out infinite turns/combats like I did>BreyaMy white whale... I'm sure someday I'll know what I want to do with her, but she makes/uses tokens so she's on the list.
>>96829448>What is the goal here?Honestly no goal I just wanted to ask what anons think.Personally I think it's rather cool, but doesn't seem worth building around. Or rather what I want to say is; It feels both cool and bland, with its effects.Creates some tokens upon entering and draws you a card for each multicolor... and that's it.Best I can imagine is making a coalition-esque deck where it's about putting as many multicolored cards as possible in the deck, a no maximum hand size card, and just start drawing your entire deck. But I'm not a good deck builder.
>>96829470Voltron artifacts. Spam cloos and foods
>>96829506Is your izzet deck "lots of cantrips spellslinger" or more on the "big spells" side of things? Cause in the former, it's not good. In the latter, chances are you won't even get to the seventh counter because you're gonna be winning so much you're gonna get tired of winning.Plus you can always copy an abrade or a prismari command or a chaos warp or some polymorph thing.
>>96829470Orvar cloning battlespheresSai cheeriosBrudichad
>>96829470Breya Thopter TribalPia Nalaar Exile Draw And Thopter TribalAnim Pakal AggroJan Jansen Turning Shit Into More Shit
>>96829535But which companion? Dan? Sarah?
>>96829599Sarah.
>>96829518>My white whale...what the fuck does this mean?
>>96829864it's his BBW for whom he likes to split his lungs with blood and thunder
>>96829864>being less literate than a faggot pedophile furry Whew lad.
>>96829917>faggot pedophile furry???????
>>96829952Use your words dipshit.
>>96829973I do not understand what you meant by your previous post, could you please elablorate on that?
>>96828320>This isn't how greentext is used, retard.
>>96828000My man, have you ever heard of Sun Titan before?
>>96830043>>96828554Anon seethed so hard he made 2 posts lmao
ban frogfags on sight
>>96830100this but wojaksFrogs are benign if they aren't le smug pepe
>>96828529If it’s not a combo piece then it’s not even that great. Just a bit of cheeky top deck manipulation for cheap.And really, if your Thoracle combo usually goes off by turn 7-8 then I don’t even see it as egregious. The game should be ending by that point anyways.
>>96828443I hope not but I know you are rightPrepare your anus
>>96827687Do you have more? I'm making a Frieren EDH deck based on that card archetype.
>ban frogfags on sight
>>96829023Kys
>>96830164no u
>>96829023>the spam of saars has made all image searches impossible due to spam of AI imagessigh>>96829067I like some cards that are semi-usable and fun from Unfinity, especially the one that gives triplestrike, and Plot Armour
>>96830133What archetype?
>>96828443>doing this change BEFORE the public has access to lorwyn2 They are sneaking some bullshit in 100%
>>96830023By asking about an allusion to Moby Dick, makes you less literate than the tripfaggot who is attracted to men, animals, and children. What the fuck else could I have meant retardkun?
>>96830125>turn 7/8Shit at my LGS goes for like 2 hours.
>Generally, you should expect to be able to play at least eight turns before you win or lose.uhm you cant attack me. we are on turn 6 in a bracket 2 game. you cant win this turn.>proceeds to combo for win with counter backup on turn 9
>>96830185The hyper specific card that does something weird.
Ban it Gavin
>>96830219Yea, the whole "can't lose by X turn" thing is even more retarded than the bracket system used to be. It's like a universal fucking pillowfort at this point.
>>96830276there is currently a discussion in our play group how this new bracket systems fucks over aggro and voltron. The casuals are not happy.
>>96830276I liked the direction of game changers as a concept; you run this card, you're in this tier. I thought it might be interesting to do a thing similar to point based armies, where certain point values are set to cards, and brackets are determined by your point value. It'd be a pain in the ass to do it for every card, sure. But since it's the most popular format and WotC is supposedly doing better than ever, they could put resources into it.Having a "you can't lose" rule doesn't differentiate between a bad deck or bad playing.
>>96830192what the fuck is going on
>have win turn 3>sandbag until appropriate turn>present win>by this stage opponents have their disgusting value engines up and have all the answers >lose game
for me, it's fishing gear
>>96830329Ultimately the underlying problem is that the game is too fast, and turn floors are an earnest (if flawed) attempt to slow it down.
Be honest with me guys.In Universe proxies cringe or based?
>>96830379problem is course that hard limits like that are a disproportionate buff for decks that can afford to play passive until a certain turn, while more aggro decks that just happened to have gotten a "wins on turn 5 loses on turn 6" sort of hand get shafted
>>96830382I like them.
>>96830382Do you actually know what an echidna looks like, anon?
>>96830329*plays one (1) grand abolisher*
>>96830382Generally yes, but these ones look like shit. The art doesn't remotely fit.
>>96830320Real ESL hours>>96830382Based, but yeah look up what echidnas are.
The thing about bracket rules, game changers and turn limite is that they're currently imagining a normal person capable of communication and designing the system around them, not around the most evil antisocial sicko possible who plays only to frustrate and annoy their alleged friends
>"hmm I need to buy like 8 cards">they're hilariously overpriced (by 50% or so) or straight up unavailable on card kingdom>go on tcgplayer>cheaper and reasonably priced, but no matter how I use the optimizer it always ends up with 6 packages>don't want to pay shipping for 6 packages OR have to deal with watching for 6 untracked envelopes>go to LGS>they have jack shitHow the fuck do you deal with this shit?
>>96830100
>>96830456>not around the most evil antisocial sicko possible who plays only to frustrate and annoy their alleged friendsThat's literally the best part about commander though.
>>96830461if they're unique cards you want to play because they're fun just proxy if they're generic value cards, just get the slightly worse but drastically cheaper option all of them have
>>96830100What do you have against my man?
>>96830318Game changers, for the most part, fail because it's damning 99 other cards for the supposed "sins" of one.I have an Ivora deck thats pretty fucking casual, but suddenly WotC is dictating my powerlevel because I put in Gamble? A card that I may, realistically, see perhaps 1 out of every 3 games, and even then it's likely grabbing/entombing a Crucible of Worlds or Anger?Powerlevels weren't much better, but at least they tried to get people to judge their deck as a whole.I can have a shitty meme deck that I love playing, and Vamp Tutor and Mana Crypt merely help give it SOME fucking teeth, and on the inverse, I can run a deck without a single GC and pubstomp the shit out of most low bracket games because it was my intention to be a massive overbearing piece of shit.It's fucking pathetic and obvious WotC is desperately trying to amend brackets because almost every criticism people threw at them has come true, but the EDH playerbase as a whole is full of non-confrontational slop sucking Reddit paypigs who would never let you bash the precious and benevolent Wizards
>>96830524>almost every criticism people threw at them has come trueLike?
>>96830524>I have an Ivora deck thats pretty fucking casual, but suddenly WotC is dictating my powerlevel because I put in GambleThen don't put in Gamble nigga. You are very much the exception. You can put Tolarian Academy in a casual deck that's only going to get 2-3 mana out of it. You can put Tinker in a deck to cheat out Parhelion. That doesn't mean these cards aren't busted as fuck and gamewarping.
>>96830535The big one is how much of a bitchfit the "Bracket Committee" (or whatever the fuck they're called) threw over tutors and how any/and all tutoring immediately pushed your deck into higher brackets because it's unfair.People obviously called this out for being massively retarded, especially with conditional tutors such as Steelshaper's, or Stoneforge, or inefficient ones like Diabolic Tutor.Lo and behold the committee is now tucking it's tail between it's legs and going "Oops haha, yeah #NotAllTutors guiz, haha woopsie uwu"
>>96830550So, they made a mistake, acknowledged it was a mistake and then corrected it? Damn.
>>96830461I currently just update my wants list on cardmarket with random stuff I'm interested in. Like >>96828000 seems interesting for a deck or two of mine. Otherwise, I have another just with staples that I check whenever I order stuff to just add a bit.But I don't feel like buying yet, so I'll wait and just proxy what I wanna play.
>>96830524It's funny you mention that.>deck can have total poop for a commander and 99>but if you have 3 (?) GC, the deck is suddenly a bracket 4>meanwhile you can run Zhulodok and every big bad Eldrazi, all the "non-GC" fetches like Eye of Ugin, Conduit of Ruin, etc etc>can even toss in a few GC like Ancient Tomb and Mana Vault>"bracket 3 lmao"
>>96830549>Sorry bro you can't use that card because retards on the internet that none of us will ever meet are using it to bully peopleBoth you and WotC can lick my nuts. It's a singleton format. Unless you're brand new to the format or the game, you are fully aware of your intention when you put a card in your deck and why it's their.These game pieces do not exist in a vacuum independent of the 99 other cards around them.
>>96830566Oh, it's a singleton format. Then we should unban fuckin Time Walk because it's only one card out of 99, right? Stop being retarded.
>>96830571Not him, but his point is that if the rest of the deck is shit, why should a GC or two drop you in the bracket that has super optimized decks.
>>96830565Yes, you can make an utterly dogshit meme deck and call it bracket 4 by engaging with the rules in bad faith, what a surprise.
>>96830562>Introduce a system nobody wanted or asked for>Receive massive pushback and valid criticism from the community why this is awful>Dig in your heels and essentially dismiss any and all naysayers by labelling them Twitter Buzzword of the Week>Time passes>Naysayers were proven right>Try to walk back your stance like a bitch and act like you never demonized them and we should all just hug it out and prease understanderuBootlicking faggot.
>>96830578Because these cards are problem cards and they will, more often then not, warp the game. Just don't use them nigga, if your deck is supposed to be casual. That's literally all they're asking, don't put Rhystic in your shitty bracket 1 deck, just don't do it.
>>96830382extremely based.mind you, I don't mind if the UB is actually MTG-adjacent, but since so much of it isn't it's cool when people proxy UB cards to retain MTG flavour.
>>96830583That's a lot of shit that didn't happen.
>>96830571Your example is extreme, but not the gotcha you think it is.Yeah if the rest of your deck sucks or is intentionally casual, Time Walk isn't going to catapult it to hyper competitive Tier 1 status.There's literally a joke in the Vintage community that Time Walk is the worlds most expensive copy of Explore because if you don't have anything else to do with it, sometimes it really does just draw you a card and give you an extra land drop.
>>96830596>If I stick my fingers in my ears and only believe what WotC tells me, bad things don't happen.Okay anon.
>>96830589>Because these cards are problem cards and they will, more often then not, warp the game. Just don't use them nigga, if your deck is supposed to be casual. That's literally all they're asking, don't put Rhystic in your shitty bracket 1 deck, just don't do it.I hate apologists like you so much it's unbelievable.
>>96830599>Explore because if you don't have anything else to do with it, sometimes it really does just draw you a card and give you an extra land drop.I mean, if you play like a retard all cards are bad and all classifications are meaningless, whoop dee fucking doo.
>>96830614Oh so now we're doing the "dies to removal" bit. Guess we should just make Tolarian Academy legal again because Cleansing Wildfire exists!
>>96830421>>96830431>>96830433what are you on about? echidnas are a made up thing.
>>96830620Yes. Either that or also ban Cradle.
>>96830524>I fucking need mana crypt to keep up!If mana crypt is allowed, then 75% of the time someone else will use mana crypt to get so much ahead that it's the reason you feel like you can't keep up with your suboptimal deck. If no one plays fast mana, then chances are higher you get to later turns where you can actually slap down some of the really good mono-coloured value cards like caged sun.You're also ignoring the fact that you're also supposed to evaluate your deck on speed for the bracket system to fit it in because some decks can be strong without GCs.
I think I found my favourite card anons
>>96828678I do run brainfreeze and recursion to get some huge cast counts for minds desire/magus of desire
>>96830679the average /edhg/ anon.
Holy shit. I just realized that building an edh deck is like the character customization screen in an rpg
>>96827680
>>96830706Yeah right down to people that choose easy mode in a game that's already extremely easy, and you wonder why until you see them playing worse than DSP and coping harder than him.
>>96830524>desperately trying to amend bracketsThat was always the point retardanon.
>The easiest thing to opt out of is someone's commander.>power alone isn't a reason to list it as a Game ChangerYo, what? It's like they forgot gc are bans in b2.
>kinnan fat cunt prodigy off the gc list>crop rot still onThis injustice must not go unpunished
>>96830825>lets play b2>ok this is my b2 yuriko deck>no the fuck it isn'tI think that's the intended path
>>96830524>I can have a shitty meme deck that I love playing, and Vamp Tutor and Mana Crypt merely help give it SOME fucking teethChrist you're a shitter. "No bro it's a jank low power deck - why do I have a bunch of crutch cards? Well I want to win with it too even if I can't figure out how to do so at my bracket level el oh el"Untrustworthy faggots like you are exactly why we need this retarded bracket system in the first place because there's way too many stupid cumgarglers in this game who can't be trusted to stay in their lane without being forced to do so. Cocksuckers like you are why we need to have traffic lights every block when, if society wasn't burdened by faggots like you, we could have yield signs and roundabouts to maintain a flow of traffic. You're the reason why everything in a store needs to be locked up or put behind a counter. You're the reason why there's time limits at attractions. You're the reason clubs have bouncers. You're the reason why conservation officers exist. Mother fuckers like you are exactly why we as a society can't have anything nice or trust people not to be stupid selfish faggots. Fuck you. Fuck you fuck you fuck you FUCK YOU FUCK YOU.
>>96830524Either you want to play Mana Crypt and Vamp Tutor, OR you want to play jank. If your jank can't work without these cards, either deckbuild better of fucking deal with it.
>>96830858Why add the extra complication? >pod full of retards>everyone else says ok>oh damn what a non-game lol>that never happens I swearWhat am I supposed to do? Sit out a round? Most stores I visit have like 6 people playing. The reason for brackets is not for personal playgroups, its for randos at an lgs. It seems like the nuRC doesnt fully grasp that.
>>96830929Switch out your commander, duh.
>>96827687
>>96830937Then whats the point of allowing them in the bracket in the first place?
>>96830951I don't know, I think not wanting commanders in the GC list is a stupid decision overall. It feels very counterintuitive to the whole point of the list and I guess they're relying on players to catch the retarded ones by themselves, which sure is a fucking decision.
>play at LGS>they don't do brackets or anything like that>only rule is no infinites >everyone there is upfront about their decks and doesn't try to bullshit you about it>everyone has a fun timeIt's really that simple. We all sort ourselves into roughly equal pods (e.g. all the cedh sweats play together, people with precons play together, etc), and we just have some fun.
>>96830929Unironically this is why I malded so hard at the announcement. Before brackets there was a constant stream of "power 7" Kinnan decks and it always had the exact same result. If you EVER told them "no" they would whine incessantly about how you weren't giving them a chance and it was their only deck etc. etc. Then the other two tards at the table would ask you to stop being mean and let him play a game. The obvious happens and the Kinnan wins, trying to downplay it. The other 2 retards let him play ANOTHER game and ha ha there goes 90 minutes of your time because two other people decided they wanted the evening to consist of Kinnan games.I'm so glad I got to experience this again.
>go to LGS in 2026The player to the right is using his commander, the Titanic, to attack the player to your left, who's commander is Dwight from the office, the Titanic connects, netting him treasures he uses to cast Reaper king, making sure to use the treasures to add one mana of each color. He passes the turn to the third player across from you, who's commander is the green goblin, he drops a fortnight boogie bomb and takes out the player to your left. You browse your phone during all of this and you see they just announced a new universes beyond set. You weep, because this was unfathomable 10 years ago
>>96831012>netting him treasures he uses to cast Reaper king, making sure to use the treasures to add one mana of each color.Oh wow he paid 5 whole treasures to destroy one (1) permanent. Woop dee fucking doo.
Is there any way to make clues cost 0?
>>96830991The other unexpected side of it is, if people are going to police commander power as rule 0 instead of via the brackets the dumb shit like >anon mirri is way too strong for this table! >nooo you cant play massacre girl>are you kidding me with that crosis bullshit?!
>>96830929>What am I supposed to do?Develop social skills, build a network of like-minded friends, and stop playing with randos. You're scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to crash game nights at the LGS.
>>96831012>drops a fortnight boogie bomb and takes out the player to your left.He took out a player with an artifact that deals 1 damage?
>>96830918But Sol Ring is still untouchable, huh?
>>96831023>he focused on the reaper king's rules text and not the fact a mono red vehicle commander made mana outside its color identity to cast a 5 colored hybrid card
>>96831012Everyone at my LGS despises UB. There's some people who go "OK FF and LOTR get a pass since they're both fantasy", but the moment ANYONE mentions Spiderman, Dr. Who, or whatever else, the entire store does a collective groan.
>>96830918nta, but I want to play cards with a good/perfect synergy while not playing retarded, overpriced goodstuff like mana crypt
>>96831045You've been able to make mana outside your identity for a long time anon
>>96831045I genuinely do not care that they used artifacts that generate all colors to cast a spell that's all colors, no
>>96828443I just saw that Maro posted a blog about why he feels like hybrid should be played in Commander. That pretty much cemeneted it for me, making it the second time in 12 months that Wizards used their new poer over commander to change the rules so they can sell more cards which they assured they wouldn't do.
>>96831030These are literally rules for pub matches Get with the program You would have to be some kind of uber autist to follow them in kitchen table play
>>96831044Yes Fast mana density is a bigger problem than having one card that can give a boost
>>96831045Reaper King and all hybrid cards were MADE to be playable in decks that don't have all its colors. That is THE ENTIRE POINT OF HYBRID CARDS. This change was long, long overdue.
>>96831059>maro's opinions on edh matteringTruly dark times
>>96831044No, Sol Ring should be banned. It's nearly Mox-tier in its stupidity (though Mana Vault is even stupider). It's just that it's ossified into the format so they won't ban it, unfortunately.
>>96831083Anon, you're a fucking retard. They were made to work like that in formats like Modern, Limited, and Standard you absolute mongoloid. Commander is the ONLY format that ever cared about color identity aside from its retarded younger brother Brawl.
I wish I could partner wernog with a simic commander...
>>96831097Sol Ring has always been stronger than Mana Vault. Mana Crypt on the other hand.
>>96831103And? Color identity is already completely disconnected from color in a bunch of glaring ways. What's one more? I'd rather have hybrid cards work the way they were supposed to, the way they were designed for, then cling to this one rules as absolutely sacred. Literally what is the problem?
>>96831110I'm still mad Mana Crypt is banned. I get why though, since especially in Commander with 40hp, the 3 damage is barely an issue.
>>96830905look at the sad state of this cuck. >please don't play a deck that might win>please don't use cards that I don't like>is... a random card tutor? ARE YOU INSANE? THIS IS A CRUTCH THAT MAKES YOU STOMP ME! honestly, if you get stomped against some retarded jank deck because it has gamble, then you are the shitter here.
>>96831131Just take it out if it's not needed for the deck, then.
>>96831028Don't think sohttps://scryfall.com/card/mkm/57/forensic-gadgeteeris the closest you can get I think
