Firebending 5 Edition>Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-june-30-2025>NewsThe 2025 MagicCon and Pro Tour Schedule:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-2025-magiccon-and-pro-tour-schedule>Metagame Mentor: The Winners and Losers from Standard's 2025 Rotationhttps://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-winners-and-losers-from-standards-2025-rotation>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963>WotC's War Crimeshttps://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)>Previously>>96820387>TQFavorite 5 mana sorcery?
new spoilers?
>>96833192flavor failshould augment firebending effects, not give them
ATTENDANCE IS UP (Your LGS failing is just a slice.)SALES ARE UP (All the people you know who quit don't count.)EXCITEMENT IS AT RECORD LEVELS (The total apathy or hatred toward every product is not factored in.)NEBRASKAISBOOMING
>>96833241After years of trying to get any of my friends to try MtG, Universes Beyond is actually what convinced them to start playing. Final Fantasy in particular, they don't care about any other UB, and they're all interested in the old in-universe stuff now.
>TQ>uw control opp has beza, big tef and temp lockdown in play>I topdeck pic>he doesn't have a counter>cum bucketsit's also one of my favorite mono black cards in general
>the set wont fail if we print enough pushed cards!
>>96833252>"Nebraska native here..."
>>96833192>pays for itself with a single creature attacking this shit is going to be busted
>>96833192>TQI miss playing Gifts Tron.
>>96833281One day you'll have to realize it's you that lives in a bubble and that the metrics are not magically wrong.
>>96833284I'm not so sure, firebending only lasts until end of combat, where are you going to put mana that can't be used on your second main?
>>96833192insane that there's no captive flame reprint in avatar set
>TQTechnically it is 5 mana
>>96833192Good firebending cards are the only thing I want to see out of Avatar. The rest of the set can fuck off.
>>96833284The mana can basically only be used for instants or activated abilities, you want to have multiple creatures, and it costs 5 to set up. It's shit.
>>96833314Yes yes yes.Every LGS in a 45 minute drive radius from where I live has stopped hosting 60 card magic and many are beginning to not even host limited and prerelease events.All the shelves at every store where MTG is available are absolutely fucking full, from top to bottom, of unsold product.Almost all, literally nearly 100%, of social media activity surrounding the game is explicitly and severely negative, and the only positive social media activity about the game is from WotC itself.But Nebraska is booming. Got it. Yeah, sure. Whatever you say, bud.
>>96833359Sorry you live in a shit place buddy.
>>96833369I'd rather live here than in a place that doesn't exist like Nebraska.
>>96833381I live within range of 3 LGSs that host weekly draft, modern, standard and pauper events, alongside EDH events weekly, and all 3 store have a decent amount of players for all of those formats weekly. Sucks to be you I guess?
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>>96833314Shush.They aren't ready for that conversation yet.
>>96833192>>96833241Maybe you thought: “Well 2025 was mostly shit and 2026 will be even worse but if enough UB garbage crash they will back pedal and 2027 may be good…”ABANDON all hope until 2030 at least.
>>96833212A bit. If you play outside of a non firebending deck it is flavor fail. If you play it in a firebending deck it is flavor win.(if they did "all black and red creatures gain firebending 5" it would have been better)Honestly not the worst "flavor" card in this set.>>96833359>to not even host limited and prerelease events.damn. Yeah I also hate how commander made every lgs shitier.
>>96833416>Maybe you thought: “Well 2025 was mostly shit and 2026 will be even worse but if enough UB garbage crash they will back pedal and 2027 may be good…”We already know UB sets have 4-5 year dev cycles and even longer to negotiate licenses. Even if every UB set tanks from now on, we're still fucking stuck with it for half a decade. Shit's GRIM.
>>96833426>Yeah I also hate how commander made every lgs shitier.Would you believe me if I told you that I've seen more people stop playing MTG because the commander players in the store are too noisy rather than due to dissatisfaction with the state of the game? Because I genuinely know more people who stopped attending events because of the noise.
>>96833357Turning any instant X damage spell into a finisher is not shit under any conceivable metric 15 mana from three swinging 1/1s is insane
>>96833435Marvel would have to be a huge flop to get them to consider changing course, that's the only thing I think would be enough. TLA is going to be a hit and TMNT is going to flop, but I'm sure they already expect that one to flop, but I feel like Marvel has to do well. It would have to be a huge flop too, if it merely underperforms and then Hobbit sells gangbusters anyway they would just shrug it off.
>>96833447What deck is running x damage spells plus a situational ritual plus a bunch of token generators?
>>96833462The one that will exist once that card hits
>>96833192It's a cute combo
>>96833252>Universes Beyond is actually what convinced them to start playing.You are the pink haired slut introduced in panel 3.
>>96833491so that's why they gave it flash
>>96833494I've been playing since Time Spiral. I've tried introducing my friends to Magic a few times, and they simply weren't interested in the game. They tried it out because of Final Fantasy, liked it, and wished they would've listened to me earlier, because they like the older stuff they've gone back and looked at, but not any of the other new stuff.
>>96833552>I've been playing since Time Spiral.And you're behaving like someone that started playing with Spiderman.
>>96833553fpbp
>>96833550They gave it flash because firebending is on attack and they needed things to work with the firenation.
>>96833553I don't follow.
>>96833491>>96833192Three creatures swinging gives you 15 mana, letting you pump it to 12 counters, so you deal 36 extra combat damage
>>9683335960 card magic is on life support. Commander is doing gangbusters
>>96833252Your friends are sloppers.
>>96833552>I've tried introducing my friends to Magic a few times,Why?If they said no once, they aren't interested. Stop being a little tinpot tyrant, people don't have to like literally everything you like.Play Magic with people who enjoy Magic instead of trying to get people who like Spiderman into the game.
>Grand Prix comes back>As an EDH tournament
>>96833555I'm really curious: what do you think "fpbp" means?
>They didn’t like the game until the game become a whore an introduced something that isn’t the gameWhy people do this to themselves is beyond me.
>>96833192I hope we get a worldfire reprint
>>96833594firty-fifth post best post
>>96833315This is in red. All that mana is going into combat tricks, instant speed card exile draw, and burn spells. Because RDW wasn't fast enough for the ADHD mousefags.
Oh finally, they did a figure of Yawgmoth!>It's a Funko PopLife is cruel.
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>>96833594From all of the posts, this was was the first to deliver top notch quality, and achieve the title of the best.
So when playing leagues on MTGOif you go 4-1 or better it's best value to open your 5 treasure chests because you are almost guaranteed to get 100PP plus any cards you pull in return?and if you 3-2 it's better value to sell the single treasure chest?
>>96833137>It's not a token though. The rhystic study can be destroyed, brought back, bounced to hand, etc.Really?why not just have it as a token?
>>96833913Can a card be a token?
>>96833491Is this or Ojer Axonil a better damage booster?
>>96833967Ojer.Anything that is also a body is always superior to something that requires bodies.
>>96833900I tend to do the opposite, the lone chest from a 3-2 can turn into a huge dopamine hit if you land on something expensive and if you don't, well it was a 3-2 anyway so just be happy you got your play points backopening 5 treasure chests from a 4-1 and getting dogshit rares feels like a punch in the stomach, I'd rather just sell the chests and get the guaranteed TIXI'm not really approaching this from a value perspective though, I just don't want to feel bad because if I do, I just stop playing leagues altogether
>>96833952>Can a card be a token?Well, you can stuff like this:https://scryfall.com/card/blc/10/murmuration
>>96834219That's not even remotely comparable.
My beloved wife
>>96833913Because the designer decided it shouldn't be, idk. It's a digital card, they tend to prefer to "conjure" actual cards instead of making tokens.
why you still play this game?
>>96834494it's fun
>>96834504>ModernIf you say so…
>>96833967Fated boosts, while Ojer replaces. At 4 mana, both will make a Lightning Bolt deal 4, but Ojer can pump Grapeshot and Shock up to 4, while Fated will only bump them up by one. However, the more mana you have, the more Fated does. It's a late game play in current monored, but with firebending and proliferate it can take off. Especially when you consider that it's all damage you deal, not just to opponents. In a vaccuum I think I'd rather Fated or Torborn over Ojer, just because those are both boosting all my damage, not just the burn spells to the face.
>>96834504What's the blood moon/magus ratio?
>>96834509I could be doing something similar in legacy but most modern decks aren't ready for turn 2 belcher or stormscale scion>>968345610x magus, I'm not trying to lock opponents out for the rest of the game, I just want to disrupt them enough so I can do my thing, running magus makes the deck weaker to creature removal when it doesn't have to be
>>96833192>TQFor me, it's Living Death.
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>>96834635wotc is kill geg
>>96834333>That's not even remotely comparable.why not?>>96834482>Because the designer decided it shouldn't be, idk. It's a digital card, they tend to prefer to "conjure" actual cards instead of making tokens.if they just made tokens they could bring it to paper. i wonder why they didnt
>>96834504whats this combo?
>>96834721Because it just creates creature tokens?
>>96834739you can make enchantment tokens.
>>96834735goblin charbelcher lets you dome your opponent for lethal damage if you don't reveal any lands from your deck, you play a bunch of MDFC lands (cards that are only lands on their backside) and then you just ritual out belcher fast as possiblestormscale scion is an alternative wincon because you can win the game with a low storm count compared to grapeshot or empty the warrens
>>96834674I meant on this board.
>purist lose>and based on data look like purist actually are the minority>wizard successfully replace their consumer base without going minus
>>96834876>>purist loseesl detected.
>>96834764But this is not how the Alchemy card works. It creates a card out of the thin air into your hand.
>>96833192Any other ATLA spoilers?
>>96834980No.
>>96834876You wish. Appealing to the lowest common denominator can work in the short term. Mark should be mapping his professional future because this game will not last until 2030.
>>96833359>60 card magicwell there's your problem
>>96834504DFCs are a joke and everyone at wizards of the coast should be in prison
>>96834876eat your slop piggy
>>96833192>TQ
>>96834772>stormscale scionso basically you use those cards like strike it rich and manamorphose to increase storm count
I'm having promos printed as (participation) prizes for a Premodern event in my city next month. What do you think? Yes, I know I need to tweak some cropping, the text and the first Diamond's set symbol.
>>96835366does wotc allow you to do that?Aside from Dan Frazier's mox diamond, which of these arts are official? I know the frank fr
>>96835381forgot to type out the rest of my post:I know the frank frazetta and zdzislaw beksinski cards are unofficial
New TQWhat is the minimum CMC you feel is fair for an effect that basically reads "If this resolves you're going to win bar some really lopsided matches"
>>96835381The art on City and Cradle are both from EW paintings, and Frazier's diamond is also from an unofficial EW painting that was donated by him - along with an original Sapphire - for this year's EW NA because Wizards refuse to support paintings anymore, going so far as to even deny Card Titan's request to commission originals out of their own pocket. I could only find pic related and a dark blurry picture taken by Tom Basketball, who won the painting, so I upscaled and edited a photo of a printed playmat for the version you see in my card. Comparing the two now I wonder if I should tone down the blue.The Giancola diamond I believe is from the LotR TCG and depicts the Arkenstone. I tried to find original art for the Cradle but struggled to do so, and I liked the City art from the beginning.
>>96833566Totally a pink MTG player take.
>>96835381Sorry, I forgot to reply to the first part of your post. It's not something that Wizards would permit, but then again we don't need Wizards permission to do anything; the event is run as proxy friendly at a non WPN store, and at request of the TO I aimed to keep the promos in line with the feel of the original art for each card, but make them obviously proxies. I get a guy in China to print them for about 10 cents each and the backs are plain white too, so there's no confusion.Pic related is Frazier presenting the MWI player that won Vintage with his painting.
>>96835234it's so fucking over lmao
>>96835234satire
>>96835559It reinforces my preconceived notions, so I choose to take it completely seriously.
>>96835133Go back to the EDH thread then
ATLA looks like a good set, but I don't want it to be good due to the consequences the metrics will have
>>96834625I would say Sam Raimi should be pissed but then I remember we had an evil dead lair for some reason
>>96835589I'm indifferent about it. It has shrines which are cool and will be fun in draft, but bending will only ever show up in this set so any cards with that effect will have to be busted on their own to see play. The extra cost of it being a UB set is keeping me from wanting to draft it.
>you must become a white ally to redeem yourselfwtf why would WotC print something so racist?
>>96835366>>96835381>>96835486Oh I guess I was wrong about the mox diamond art in your post.Well, to be fair, he also drew the original mox diamond.https://scryfall.com/card/sth/138/mox-diamond
>>96835502>Sorry, I forgot to reply to the first part of your post. It's not something that Wizards would permit, but then again we don't need Wizards permission to do anything; the event is run as proxy friendly at a non WPN store, and at request of the TO I aimed to keep the promos in line with the feel of the original art for each card, but make them obviously proxies. I get a guy in China to print them for about 10 cents each and the backs are plain white too, so there's no confusion.I think WotC also does oversized reserved list cards as tournament prizes.But, as long as everyone knows its a custom art proxy, and not an official wotc tournament prize, i dont see an issue with that. in general, im fine with proxies as long as they are readable. i dont expect someone to shell out over 9000 dollars because they wanted to try out vintage for fun once.
>>96833494https://youtu.be/y_k70YpCGRk?si=OVHvmgHEvUbVhsTU&t=163this video pretty much confirms it>3 minutes in>guys complain about UB slop>first woman goes full soi this is who wisardo-san panders to
>>96832475>https://tagger.scryfall.com/tags/card/paper-compatibleIf they just changed the seek to search, this would be totally paper compatible:https://scryfall.com/card/ytdm/18/audacious-knucklebladeThere's already a bunch of other cards that self-tutor.https://tagger.scryfall.com/tags/card/tutor-self
>>96836124>If they just changed the seek to search, this would be totally paper compatible:>https://scryfall.com/card/ytdm/18/audacious-knuckleblade>There's already a bunch of other cards that self-tutor.>https://tagger.scryfall.com/tags/card/tutor-selfi forgot the pic.
>>96833315Enters
>>96835622For some reason they forgot that lessons are supposed to be less mana efficient than cards designed for the maindeck, so learn decks are going to get much stronger options for their lessonboards, along with a bunch of maindeck payoffs for playing lessons.>Earthbending Lesson - more or less better Elemental Summoning but green>Dai Li Indoctrination - cheapest lesson that puts a body on the field, and alternatively it can thoughtseize >Aang's Journey - copies 5-8 of Enviromental Sciences, unless you're making some jank with both learn and shrines in which case it's strictly better>Waterbending Lesson - big draw>Water Whip - medium draw, also bounces, probably only good in Affinity though>Abandon Attachments - small draw, might obsolete Enviromental Sciences>It'll Quench Ya, Sokka's Haiku, Redirect Lightning - I sacrifice my Eyetwitch to pull a counterspell out of my ass>Azula Always Lies - emergency monkey obliterator>Ozai's Cruelty - Mind Rot found dead in Miami
>>96836127search shuffles, seek doesn't shuffle, therefore this isn't possible in paper.
>>96836165i specified if they changed seek to search.seek also gets stuff at random, but this can only look a specific card:https://mtg.wiki/page/seek
Is this a good card?
>>96836231Yes, and shuffling vs not shuffling means that seek has a slightly different affect on the game than searching. If the top card of your deck is revealed, seeking won't change the top card of your deck.
>>96836056most old japs who fell in love with the game in the past either exclusively play old/middle school now or have move to F&Bthe average one you see playing now never knew the sapphire dreamt. knower
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>>96836161The learn cards didn't really see constructed play with Divide by Zero only getting banned because of Lier. The original lessons weren't really worth sacrificing your sideboard space except on Arena.
>>96836238It's okay basically it draws 2 nonlands which you can return to redraw. Stock is better since you have more freedom to choose what you want.
>>96836546The fucking end. Anyone justifying this suit is a fucking retard.
>>96836546the meme reality is now reality, let it sink.
>>96836546WHO the fuck even likes TMNT? Isn't this franchise dead for decades at this point?
>>96836878The IP doesn't matter. Paramount got something going on with WotC and they are milking every Paramount IP possible regardless of relevance.
>>96836878No one. The only people who truly give a shit about turtles are a handful of incredibly autistic people who probably also collect tmnt lunchboxes and weird shit like that.
>>96836878TMNT was 100% part of a package deal wizards had to make to get the two series they actually wanted sets for- Avatar (beloved, flavorfully fits) and Star Trek (legacy cred and collector chases). Companies do package deals like that all the time- remember when 4kids wanted Shaman King and Toei bundled it with One Piece, an anime 4kids were not capable of faithfully adapting? Same issue.
>>96836546Which one will bomb harder?
>>96836948Hey, it's your boy Maro here, just chiming in to tell you that none of the set are bombing! Haha!
>>9683698310 / 10 image.
The shills keep baking fucking SHIT OPs that have nothing to do with what's being discussed in the threads.
Why did you mentally ill incels not buy peter porker and bagel and schmaltz?It was because of the influencers was it? Come on, you can tell me, we're all friends here, if you have nothing to hide you've got nothing to fear.
>>96837103But I did buy it because it was a fun set. I love marvel and Spiderman so it was a day one purchase for me. Im glad that magic is branching out and trying new things it really spices up the game and makes it more fun than seeing phyrexians and generic fantasy art for the millionth time.
>>96837009*nicol bolas points his talon agsinst favored hoplite*NIGGER!*favored hoplite is exiled from this world*
>>96836546Hell yeah! Can't wait. Not sure why people here get upset about an American game having American cultural references. But yet those same people dont care about games like Yugioh making reference to anime and Asian culture.
Ok Avatar the last airbenders, riddle me this.Blue = waterbendingGreen = earthbending.Red = firebendingWhite = airbendingBlack = ????
>>96837130Fentanylbending.Welfarebending.Whitetitsbending.Singlemomsbending. (Over the table)
>>96837117>>96837128Yeah man!!! I love America, New York and real world stuff and capeshit in my fantasy game! Fuck Phyrexians! Fuck Angels and Dragons!!! Fuck Gods! And Fuck Planeswalkers!! Give me Pizza! Give me Hot Dog Carts!! And Give me Super heroes, Turtles and Spiders!!!
>>96837130I think they're just slapping black onto the fire people because war and relentless conquest or something.
>>96837130Black = non-benderIts the only sensible answer since they need representation too
>>96837154>fuck dragonsHELL YEAH XISTER!
>>96837154this but unironically. make pizza lands every set with new toppings.
>>96836161>Mind Rot found dead in MiamiIt was already ground beef from day 1, Hymn to Tourach already existed.
>>96836948There's just something about this picture that drains every last bit of excitement I could have had. I can't quite put my finger on why it is, but this is just so extremely unnapealing to me.
>>96837243Because it's not Magic and you know it on instinct, it's like the uncanny valley, your brain is trying to make it into a movie poster or comic book cover instead of a Magic the Gathering set.>What movie is this from?>Is this about the new Dr Doom man movie guy Marvel IP Marvel man?>Marvel marvel man marvel marvel marvelnice fantasy trading card game we have here
>>96836948I hope for some nice Through the Omenpaths OM2 art.
>>96837265It goes further than that, it's that modern Marvel style (or lack thereof) of just placing characters on a screen with no rhyme or reason, they're just in their own little spots doing their own little pose just to run through a checklist of characters being featured. Look at that fucking nonsense going on in that picture, everyone just looks like a png plastered onto the background.
>>96837130They're not lining them up that strictly. Firebending's red/black it seems, Waterbend is white/blue, Airbend seems to just be in white and admittedly Earthbending's in green/black.
>>96837265Imagine being so brainrotted by the MCU you look at Marvel and only think of movies.
>>96837280Note this is without seeing the whole set but I can't imagine Airbend being in any other colours, it's a very white effect.
>>96837278You have to have everything you paid for in all frames at all times because that's how you make the most out of your investments on a second to second basis, like how movie posters are just piles of faces stacked on top of each other. >>96837283UB is currently, like it has been since it's inception, a tie in for currently produced media to act as advertising. The hard push towards marvel as the cornerstone of magic the gathering during this latest MCU stage era whatever the fuck is obviously on purpose and 100% to get everyone in the same slop cauldron
>>96837283I hate to tell you this but most people engage with marvel properties through movies/shows and have never in their life touched a comic book.
>masked up>off meta>bald>sitting next to fat guy>he/him>raped in round 1>baldbrutal to watch someone be zoomermogged like this. emblematic of the whole hobby
>>96837283>Noooooooooo Movies/Shows no bro!!>Consider… Comic books!!Spoiler: Equally shit. There is not a single Marvel modern garbage that can be saved or be labeled as “good”
>>96837460By Odin's fade, you buggin
>>96837460>>96837467Obligatory.
>>96833314What metrics??Your post would be really convincing if the people in this thread had actually *seen* the metrics. Do you work at WotC? Can we see the metrics?
