Que Retardado Edition>What is Trench Crusade?An alternate weird history 28mm/32mm tabletop skirmish game still in a pre-release playtesting phase but with the full release slated for this year. Based on the art and lore of Mike Franchina, whose illustrations you may have seen floating around on /tg/ for a several years now, and designed by Tuomas Pirinen, one of the original creators of Mordheim. It's grimdark, it's visceral, it's awesome, and it's very Blanchitsu.>What Trench Crusade is notTC not an excuse for you to discuss IRL religion, history that didn't occur in the game, culture war shit, or discord bullshit on /tg/. Keep it on topic.>What's the QRD on the background?The Knights Templar turned heretic and opened the Gates of Hell when they took Jerusalem during the First Crusade. Over 800 years later the war is still ongoing as technology has developed to a pseudo diesel-punk WW1 standard and a third of Humanity has sided with the Infernal Princes.>How do I get started?All the files are free online, but are split between the website and the discord. They have all been collected here for your convenience:https://mega.nz/folder/70QH0BBa#Eg-blxYQKkY_C02wErnFTQ>third party sources for making trenchers:https://pastebin.com/YzXPVUAc>Trench CompendiumCompendium: https://https://trench-companion.com/>Previous Thread:>>96815412>Thread QuestionWhat faction do you think has the best fluff?
What are your most wanted factions?I want japanese YokaiI hope they lean into myths of different cultures then just different religions, the map showed some fables on it. A lot of japanese culture and religion could be so fun to make grimdark
>>96849317Out of the ones the devs have confirmed? Probably the beast - what lore we've gotten suggests some interesting run-based mechanics that involve unit positioning.
>>96849317whenever i get to making my Heretic Legion group, I'm making them a mix of Korean, Japanese, and Chinese monsters.I swear to G*d that I wanted to make the Lieutenant a Saja before KDH came out.
>>96849317Japan is played out
>>96842606>Nobody would buy our overpriced plastic if you could just print them!Sad
I posted here a while ago about wanting to make a setting appropriate elephant, well here it is built and primed.I'm running it as a shrine anchorite. It's a little bit big but I wanted it to be imposing and it fits on the base no problem so whatever.
>>96849317I hope to see where they go with Tibetan Buddhism. They go pretty wild with their images and practices. Apparently Himalayas are infested with path of the beast raksashas.
>>96850001don't forget the mongol horde apparently still exists
>>96849990rad
>>96849317>Sacred Order of the Dragon halts the heretic advance after the destruction of Byzantium. A million heretics impaled in the hills of Wallachia.Whoever the fuck these guys are.Followed by the Synod of Strategic Prophecy
>>96849317based on the map I want to see what's up with the mongols and the scythians, although that will probably have to wait until we have some new edition of the rules that includes cavalry and mounted units.
>>96853541>scythiansBruh, they better make them conan like if they're going to throw in an extinct society.Conan is a Cimmerian after all.Hell since Beelzebub resurrected ekron, maybe we can see Moloch bring Carthage back, or maybe that would be Baal.They're not main heads of the serpent but that apparently churns.
>>96850433Carpathian Orthodox/Rusyn units would be awesome, give them special rules vs Sultanate.
Isnt this shit ZUTT'd and trooned?
>>96854164They want the troons to think yes and the chuds to think noA risky strategy sure to make everyone upset
>>96854164Doesn’t have to be, you can play basically for free without paying them a penny and be as politically incorrect as you want around your own table. Just stay clear of Mag28 and don’t tolerate humorless faggots at the table.
>>96849990Shrine Elephanchorite
>>96849317I'm actually more keen on expanded mercenaries before more factions. Why not have a few more options open to everyone, or a good and a bad big guy each. I think expanded mercenaries add more to campaign play
Its funny this game and Infinity have le heckin wholesome enlightened muslim scientists faction when in reality most muslims are inbred retards.
>>96849317Grail Vampires
I can’t be the only person who thinks that the 1.6.3 ruleset is incredibly badly written and unclear… can I?
>>96855673Idk about unclear but yeah a lot of the sentences in here could use an editPlaytest gameSmall indie companyPlease understandu
>>96855673What we've seen of the 1.0 stuff is much better, plus they've had a year of correcting people on rules to see what's commonly confused.
>>96854528I know this is low effort bait but TC’s muslims are unironically inbred retardsThey are still using muzzle loaders when everyone else has assault rifles and SMGs, and they have to kidnap and enslave / brainwash people from outside the wall to have even halfway decent troops. Shame the lore writers are too timid to make the Janissaries the power-hungry kingmakers they were in our timeline
>>96855987It's called a build, retardThey specked into magic and creating giant fucked up abominations where as everyone else specked into guns
>>96855987>he doesn’t know what the janissaries really werePoint at him and laugh
>>96855987>They are still using muzzle loaders when everyone else has assault rifles and SMGsYet jezzails and bolt action rifles have pretty much the same rules on the tabletop, you’re just assuming jezzails are still muzzle loading flintlocks.
>>96849307Sería más bien:*¡Jajaja, qué subnormal!*
>>96853541This map made me quit.
>>96855987Bait aside, it is funny that people seethe about the islamic faction being very well organized when basically every unit explains how they're made to be loyal via hallucinagenic stuff
>>96854164>>>/pol/Go cry like a bitch somewhere else tourist, you don't care about the hobby
>>96857035t.
>>96853541>no hellmouth in lowlands for WW1 kinoThis is probably one of the worst maps of any setting, and yes that includes the Age of Sigmar maps.
>>96856553>>96857205The map is outdated fwiwThere are lore documents that directly contradict it
>>96856553Then why are you here? If the idea that someone in-universe would make you so mad that you'd give up on the entire game, then actually give up on it and leave.
>>96849307I took a year break from Trench crusade news just to give it more time to develop. Are the models available to be purchased yet or do we still need to download the stl and print it ourselves?
>>96855987>I know this is low effort bait but TC’s muslims are unironically inbred retardsThey're surrounded by hell i wouldn't be surprised-oh you mean their use of weapons.well to be fair they don't have access to the wider world to gather this, the Christians aren't going to share their technology with them and vice versa.>janissariesBy decent troops you mean space marines?They're pumped full of so much genetic bunk they turn into muslim templars.Also aside from the lack of obvious backbiting this is real life accurate.I'm surprised we don't see a million civil wars, The Sultan coughs "hack, hack" and all of his sons pull out their knives.>>96856145That might be cool though, lower rate of fire, higher power shots. not sure how'd they get it balanced though.
>>96859455Westfalia sells their minis otherwise go to etsy.
>mecca protected by le magic sand stormYeah the creators dont want to get stabbed lol
>>96857035Shut the fuck up pussy and go back to red1dit. This shit is cringe and ZUTT'd as fuck, no wonder the community already started their own purified canon and are just pirating all the minis
Whats the deal with 28mag?
>>96862110They spelled ‘28Fag’ wrong, it’s a typo.
>>96862085>purified canonare you talking about the "Cleansing Fire" canon or whatever the fuck they were calling it? the keep banning any mention of it on the r>ddit and discord
>>96862110they were once men...
>>96849317grim derp buddhism
>>96862460I think thats the "purified" lore that apparently takes out the troony and the pro-muzzie stuff. It was on the discord for a hot second before they nuked it. Its alot of text
I just want hot girls with tits outs in nun-battle gearWhy is that so fucking hard to find out
>>96863386>takes out the troony and the pro-muzzie stuff>Troony and pro-muzzieGame has neither of these things. I can only imagine how cancerous and mentally ill that community is.
>>96863916i mean theres a lot of red fascists hyping up the IS. I don't think the IS are bad, i get the criticism though but its not a big deal.
>>96862072I mean, not being able to access mecca is a pretty big deal to them. Its one of the four pillars of islam right? God saying that the IS can't do that would be a big deal.
>>96863989Anyone who thinks muslims in TC universe are portrayed as good, scientific or wholesome, has some self reflection to do. But politically minded people are too much hurry to read the lore.
>>96857179what is bi-erasure
I would never even have heard of mag 28 if you people weren’t seething about it.
>>96854528Muslim don't fuck around. The writer want death threats for pity points but don't want to be killed and raped like a bunch of frenchies if they "make fun" of Islam.
>>96854528Muslims will actually murder you for insulting their religion and culture so no European company will dare to do so
>>96862460Do you have any links? After a few searches I don't get anything
>>96865531I think they don't have much Muslim in the US therefore they don't understand that a Muslim, can only be a zealot prone to violence toward non Muslim and he's encouraged by our traitor states and his religious belief. You must live next to them or in the same commie block to understand it.
>>96865531How has TC insulted any religion?
>>96865637Assuming this isn’t sarcasm. TC exits clearly just because an artist had a vision of a particular aesthetic, and I doubt insult was his intent( but maybe it was i don’t know his heart). But game-ifying religion is insulting in its own right to the people that take those religions seriously. Then it makes demon worshipers seem like cool bad guys and creates Hell worshiping larpers. Which let’s be real “pretending to sin” is just sin. The “Christian” side has “meta-Christ” which I don’t think I have to elaborate on why a Christian might not be crazy about. Theres plenty of sexual stuff too even on the “good” sides. It’s just fiction, I doubt it was meant to insult, but can you see where people might take offense? >inb4 you personally are insulted I’m just trying to explain how religious people might not like this concept. Even if it’s more than likely not even on their radars. I doubt Mohammed over in Iraq is upset about a skirmish game. I also doubt even Mohammed over in London knows the game exists. This game is far from the most offensive things to Christians or Muslims. An average Hollywood production should be of greater personal insult them than this game.
>>96866813>But game-ifying religion is insulting in its own right to the people that take those religions seriously.Does it really gameify religion? Religion is just the aesthetic, but not really a mechanic. I think only sniper priest has mechanic about praying. By that logic chess gameify's religion, because king usually has a cross on its top.>Then it makes demon worshipers seem like cool bad guys and creates Hell worshiping larpers.Doesn't insult anyone's religion though. You can find heretics cool or horrifying, or both. Then they are offended by someone else's taste (or their own, by really thinking heretics are cool, but are too deep in confessional to admit it).>Meta-christYeah, but there are christians thinking those are abomanitions.Most of those things are points brought by christian aunts, who use the church as social club. And to them you can say that literal catholic monks are cool with the game. I get your angle, but I don't really see insults, just someone looking for things to be mad about.
>>96867016I do not consider insult to be a handshake.Can authors be insulted by fanfic when the fanfic author adores their work and meant no insult? Absolutely. Insult can be taken when none is intended. It is still insult. And insult can be meant when it is not received. It is still insult. Now how harmful is it? Low on the scale. There are some people taking the “it gives Christianity more interest” route with TC and some that are “this is too sinful” route. Most people? They are just going about their lives. I think if you take most *serious Christians and say >Am I sinning by playing this?the answer would be yes. Then if you asked him>how important is it to your daily life I play it? He would say “not at all”. I don’t think hypothetical uninterested man would care unless you lore saged him against his will.Thats how you make him upset.
>>96849990t. Hannibal
