anyone got a copy of girl frame ive been looking for one for a while
>>96857315Why not just buy your own? It's only $10.
>>96857315>not supporting wholesome authorshere on 4channels we only pirate chud games anon
That's not a mecha game, that's just some BDSM-themed play pretend.
>>96858108Why am I not surprised?
>>96858108It's got the word 'GIRL' right there in the title. What, you weren't expecting MECH MILKING FARM in RPG format?
>"Girl" FrameWhy am I not surprised
>>96858108oh it's PBtA and it's just the author's not-even-veiled fetish. No wonder anon wants to pirate it.
>>96857384>Wholesome>Entire game is just the author's rape fantasy and BDSM fetishesPlease fuck off and never come back.
>>96859011>Entire game is just the author's rape fantasy and BDSM fetishesMight be cool but why use stock PbtA? At least use an upgrade version like RapeSworn or Rapes in the Dark
>Why am I not surprisedProbably because the game doesn't even attempt to try to hide what it's about and you hopefully have basic pattern recognition skills.
>>96859036Because the target audience are retards like >>96857384 with absolutely shit taste and multiple mental disabilities.
>/tg/ is full of prude faggots and no longer enjoys magical realm because its identity politics nowwhat the fuck happened to you
>>96859516If I want to roleplay as an abused lesbian mech pilot, I don't need half-assed rules about spanking because I can ERP on my own, I need a functioning mecha system.
>>96859609first post in the thread talking about the actual mechanics, finally.whats lacking from the mecha system? I'm genuinely hoping this game is even half as good as Flying Circus, PBTA needs more actually good games to yank it up out of its own filth and hose it off.
>>96858890>mechsploitationlol
You know what I don't get? Being a transwoman, having gender dysphoria, is supposed to mean you're absolutely horrified and disgusted at the idea of being perceived as a man. These people spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on drugs, surgeries and cosmetics to look passable as women and often go so far as to commit suicide if it doesn't work. Why would anyone commit to that lifestyle and then produce something so glaringly fucking male brained? /m/ shit is THE most masculine genre of anime, or anything, really, ever to exist. The only people with XX chromosomes capable of appreciating it are trans boys. Making an rpg about fetishized lesbian caricatures in Gundams screams ywnbaw louder than every right wing chud on /pol/ and every bitchy TERF on /cgl/ put together ever could. How can somebody betray the entire concept of femininity like that and NOT neck themselves?
>>96860528like 2 thirds of all the transgirls I know (and me) adore mecha shit, anon.With this game and this exact niche of mech fiction (the Warhound stories started it Im pretty sure) it strikes me as a cope about being trapped in unalterable systems and taking what bodily autonomy you can. Fully or even partially transitioning is difficult as fuck to attain, even without counting where you live/societal pressures. Fantasy often fills the void.There's definitely a dash of mommy/daddy dom tossed in for good measure with the handlers. Peoples interests dont change, they just find new ways to enjoy them.
>>96859609This. I am the target audience for this game but I don't believe there's really a need for fetish games because I don't think "kink" is as transformative as the authors here would want you to believe. You can houserule BDSM into Lancer, Mekton, the Transformers RPG, fucking Twister, whatever. The BDSM just isn't enough to make a game interesting even when its half the appeal. Its also just not interesting as narrative on its own because the small handful of people who'd be into the stories you get from this game would probably rather just be doing the ERP in actual sex without having to stop and roll dice. The mecha portion is really hamstringed by being PbtA and while I'm not expecting /m/ threads levels of detail I do think a mecha game needs to give me a mech that feels unique. Otherwise, why care? About 90% of PbtA games like this could be solo journal games and nothing would be lost aside from the group aspect but who is playing these games with a group more than once or twice? Fact is, for erotic games, you can only get so much mileage out of magical realm material before its stale.
>>96860528>mecha is the most masculine genreNot sure where you got that from, but mecha, particularly in Japan, has had a huge female fan base from it's start. Gundam would've flopped if not becausea) Bandai released model kits which were extremely popular for children and male fansb) female fans went feral over the male cast, writing fanzines, fanfic and doujins (mostly of the yaoi variety), as well as reportedly organising the first Gundam convention and cosplays.Shit like Dunbine, Escaflowne, Macross, Eva and Patlabor are massively popular with women.Feminity and mecha are not at all divorced, anon.>PicrelAn illustration from a 1982 fanzine about gay Zeon officers, done by a bunch of women.
>>96858956It's one of the author's fetishes. His other ones are autogynophilia, crossdressing, and tricking low-standards straight men.
>>96860528You don't stop liking what you like just because you gave yourself tits.
>>96859011Rape fantasies and BDSM are what RPGs were originally meant for.
>>96860895I agree.Using those punishment or whatever rules may be fine for a PART of the game, but if you slap a giant robot on the cover, that robot better is fun to play. And PbtA simply can't handle that.Maybe you could use Girl Frame's rules for pilot stuff and Lancer rules for mecha stuff. Considering Lancer's audience, you'll surely find players, ho ho ho.
>>96858108>PBTA
>>9685810898% chance the creator is a fat 40-something man who likes to wear a tutu and insist on the right to use women’s bathrooms and change rooms, also.
>>96860528>Why would anyone commit to that lifestyle and then produce something so glaringly fucking male brained?Because men stay men even after they insist society calls them women. Even post-op troons still commit rape and sexual assault at the same rates as cis men. It’s why we should be gatekeeping our beloved IP’s hard. Troons don’t necessarily want ‘equal treatment’ or ‘female representation’ in our games and genres, that’s just the easiest path for them to get their fetishes enshrined so everyone else has to bend the knee. Do not buy troon games. Do not engage with troon gamers.Do not support companies that encourage troons.Do not allow troon propaganda to pass unchallenged.
>>96859011this is a product for adults about things adults enjoyso this entire websitecome back when you are 18
>>96858890Why have these people suddenly latched onto mecha shit in the last year?
>>96861631They’re like monkeypox suddenly appearing in young boys around the gay community. Diseases always look for new vectors of infection.
>>96860895>Fact is, for erotic games, you can only get so much mileage out of magical realm material before its stale.Fact. Imagine busting a nut only to return to bare bones system that is worth more as a cum wipe than a source of entertainment.That being said, while I understand the lack of detail or complexity in the mecha portion (sure, maybe looking up performance of ballistic ammunition, or learning principles of mechanized warfare isn't interesting for the wanna-be-game-author, not everyone can be based), I loathe the abstraction of the kink part into that basic of a 'do bad thing > roll > roll on table' algorithm. The kink isn't transformative because it's barely formalized into any particular ruleset, and never to a degree that's more than 'you have 1/2 numbers and a die, imagine the rest'. In the case of BDSM: where is a system that represents the tension in the relationship between the Handler and the Pilot in a more complex way, one that would maybe create a meta-game element between being sodomized in exchange for a degree of plot armor? Maybe expanded segment on common psychological tricks to get someone compliant and a numerical representation of how susceptible/resilient the target is towards those, maybe even with capstone events. How about the corruption mechanic being something more than a tracker, and also have it play in getting more distant from the SM relationship? You are right that 90% of these could be solo journaling games and nothing would be lost, but I find it infinitely frustrating that even among the genre, the actual tabletop component is thrown by the wayside in favor of what I assume is 'accessibility'. Sure, there are a million of 2-page 'rpg's out there catering to every fetish under the sun, but not a single crunch-heavy one that lets you play with some autist's intricate model of the human psyche/sociopsychological network of combat lesbians/what-have-you in-between playing with your dick. Sad!
>>96857315Alright, finished going through it. I liked some of it and found a lot of it superfluois, but it gave me good ideas and I think it would be pretty fun to run for a few weeks/months. It wouldn't stand up to longer campaigns.-There isn't enough mech stuff going on. PBTA isn't what I'd pick for a mech game, not enough options for tactics or mechanics, but I think it could be used to represent them better than this does. That said it looks like you can mix and match pilot types and mech models, so there's some flavorful build options.-Standout mechs:>The reverse engineered alien biotech monster that revolves around eating and rewrites the PC pilot's brain to be the same. You vore enemies to capture them and return them to base for rewards. Your character can do this *outside of the mech*. I want to see more goofy spooky kinkshit, thats fun as hell. >The mech that was designed to be piloted by 8 people which is SO massive you can get literally lost in it and spend your downtimes exploring it. You have to roll to escape when you actually want to be out of it for downtime because its a House of Leaves thing>The repair and support mech that has a bunch of cool abilities for not just healing but stealing parts from enemies and other mechs, with the downside being that its so hard on the budget the brass will repossess it from you forever if no one uses one of their limited story rewards to request that you get to keep it. You have to pick something else if you lose it. Better keep the polycule happy, bitch. -The social stuff looks fun, but a lot of it feels kind of flat - especially compared to pcs who can do things like immediately declaring any npc as a traitor and having it be canon. All of the pilot classes are flavorful but a few stand out as way way cooler. cont.
>>96861846-A lot of the gender identity stuff, while integral to the game, doesn't add much. The game says there's no room for player agency in the conflict going on and the system the players are stuck in, but for something thats going for that I'd like to see more freedom for personal creativity. The BDSM aspect is interesting; players and the gm can deprive each other of ingame abilities and downtime niceties, throw each other under the bus to be rewarded, etc. Like others have said you could just make 'male pilot posterboy for the EDF who gets emasculated and forcefemmed by his handler for his fuckups' and that doesn't really need rules. That said, I wouldn't have thought of it on my own and its juicy. -Running the handler as the gm looks FUN. Literally be the powertripping dm and fuck with your players while forcing them into your magical realm and railroading them through a house of horrors. Scientist is easily the most flavorful and interesting, the other two are just bossy bedroom bait. -Enemies are cool and have a lot of options. Very good for monster-of-the-week Eva type shit, with an FF: The Spirits Within sort of flavor by default. I'd like to see more human enemy options than just the one, just fighting space monsters isn't as fun as the burden that comes with humanities own atrocities. They make the players fight for survival much more interesting. Nothing stopping you from just refluffing stuff though. I'd like to run it once or twice, seems fun for less experienced groups or groups who don't want as much combat/math but still want some grim themes.
>>96860975People in general seem to be horrendously unaware that many conventions, especially in the realm of science fiction fandoms, started out with women organizers. It's not just true for Gundam, it's also true for Star Trek.
>>96861846>>96861858Oh, an actual review, thanks.
>>96860528>>Why would people who feel trapped in their own skin and persecuted by society feel attracted to a genre about building a perfect invincible body??Hard to say bud. Hard to say.
>>96861930Your incessant attempts to make all fiction allegorical to your fetish is not even half as poetic as you think it is.
>>96862003Eye of the beholder bro
>>96862003Its not that deep bro. It's already a major theme of the giant robot genre.Also man, automatically assuming it's a fetish feels like projection.
>>96862043It really isn't.
>>96861846>>96861858I really like how the guy who mad pbta hyper popular got ostracised for bdsm stuff on a video play through, but how various other people can make entire pbta games about it via identity politics.
>>96861631Lancer was the big one. They also saw stuff like WFM and the modern gundam boom as an opportunity to do their "uhm this is ours now, we've got our yucky fingers on it, you have to be grossed out and stop liking it!". It only works if you flinch.Anyway my personal theory is that humiliation fetishists have a massive desensitization issue and are constantly looking for the next big hit. Literally any time I think "holy shit this person is spiraling down the goon drain" they're predominately humiliation fetishists. It's like they have no real life/fetish life distinction. Any time I see someone completely torpedoing their mental health and stability chasing a big cum, they're into humiliation. I think it's fundamentally a self-destruction fetish.>>96860975tbf I've seen this in many cases and they never seem to actually give a fuck about the show itself and from gundam to star trek to transformers to superwholock, they only seem to want paper dolls they can use to play relationship simulators with. The female fanbases involvement with star trek practically starts and ends at making kirk kiss spock.
>>96860975>a) Bandai released model kits which were extremely popular for children and male fansTo be clear, the model kits were 99% of the reason Gundam was successful and got funded for multiple seasons. Tomino and many others who worked on the original series and its movies, sequels, etc, were at times fucking with the executives by pushing the limits of what they thought they could get away with. It's why the Zeon units have so many ridiculous, stupid names, why they'd sometimes introduce and then kill off characters in short spans of time. They wanted to see if the execs and money men cared at all, but they didn't, because the only thing that mattered is that merch and model kits were flying off the shelf.Female fans making BL doujins did not even remotely factor into things.
>>96861870Oh, for sure.Don't have to look much farther from this thread to see folks claim women and da queers just got into this shit last year.>>96862409>seemHave you actually interacted with them at an earnest level or are you merely describing your assumptions here?>>96862438This would be true for everything after the Gundam movie trilogy. The original toy line, which was released along with the anime, was made by Clover and only really contemplated the Gundam. It also flopped hard and was part of the reason the series got cancelled.The first Gunpla didn't come out until July 1980, 6 months after the original series ended, and even then it took a while for sales to actually climb up. By then there were already Gundam conventions and at least one fan work that I can think of. Tomino has spoken a couple of times about how the female fans were the first to actually get interested in the series, they were also very enthusiastic for the series reruns.
>>96862582It's not an assumption, I can go on social media or fansites or fanfiction sites or fan art sites and the bulk of the women's contributions is literally just making the characters kiss each other. This is what they put out into the world. I read doujins pretty often, the ones written by chicks have naruto and sasuke kissing. Maybe I need to talk to them to understand their complex and personal reasons for doing this, but not to notice that this is their primary output.Gundam's early scene is a huge quagmire of hearsay, undocumented vague public opinion, and the re-airing/movies building up public appeal alongside the growth of conventions and doujins. It's complex, and it's all decades ago and through a language barrier. Tomino saying the chicks really liked it is believable, they did, but he's also an incredibly biased person who's long tried to downplay the models and talk up his writing chops. He also has a "complex relationship" with women lol
>>96860975>Male fans spent money>Female fans masturbatedI think I see a critical flaw with your "would have flopped without female fans" premise.
>>96860528It's simple. Trannyism(male) is primarily a fetish subculture that has developed a narrative useful for gaining access to medical technology. They have never mentally or spiritually been women, and they never will be.Transgenderism doesn't even really exist. The only coherent "trans" ideology is Transhumanism - which is exactly what the present phenomenon is.
>>96863196It's been my experience that people in some niche part of fandoms tend to develop a distorted sense of scale and importance about the goings-ons and happenings of their little niche. The infamous Mary Sue fanfic was a big deal to people with not much else going on in a community that actually only had a few hundred active fans. The extreme majority of people who watched Star Trek when it aired didn't subscribe to fanletters or read zines or even give any thought to "Spirk" stories. To the few people who were involved in those things, those things seemed like a big deal because they had nothing else going on and they could all repeatedly tell each other how important and impactful their fandom was.When those stories later escaped containment and became memes and the kind of early BBS and usenet gossip, it was because it was laughable and humiliating. Not because anyone was enamored with and impressed by all the hard work of those oh-so dedicated female fans who were actively sculpting and guiding the entire Trek fandom with fanfics that every fan was dying to read and talk about.
>>96861631Because men like mechs
>>96860975>Shit like Dunbine, Escaflowne, Macross, Eva and Patlabor are massively popular with women.I do not and never will believe this, anon. You might as well claim that women like Star Wars or Star Trek while you're at it. Those are exclusively masculine centered shows.
>>96864050That's clearly a Battletech ripoff. This is a thread about anime mecha, not boring and stupid Western designs.
>>96864090That's a hefty from fang of the sun dougram you fucking fake weeb
>>96863196tbf a lot of things make a shitload of money off character goods and other such doodads. Buying character goods that you don't even really care about just to feed money into the franchise is pretty common. Someone's buying all those millions of tin badges and towelettes and phone cards. Gundam definitely launched into iconic status because of gunpla, though. Otherwise it just would've been considered a popular series for the time. Gunpla started a big military mecha boom that lead pretty directly to other series copying that format for merchandise.Case in point, battletech. Gundam beget dougram/macross beget battletech. You don't get american mechs without gunpla.
>>96861858>Literally be the powertripping dm and fuck with your players while forcing them into your magical realm and railroading them through a house of horrors.Ah, so this is how PBtA games intend to deliver us from the evils of the toxic GMs. Stunning and brave. Revolutionary, even.
>>96858108... so just like every other mecha game?Question:Are you clueless about the content of mecha games for past 30 or so years, or are you clueless in general?
>>96864469Sorry anon, I can't hear you over my five different tables I need to consult whenever I fire a rocket salvo.
