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>this is the future Taufags want
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>>96881163
look i'm so lonely i'd betray my species for the tiniest crumb of affection
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Big blue titties are a powerful motivator.
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>>96881274
You will still be an incel under the Greater Good, but literally because you'll be chemically castrated like the rest of the gue'la chattel.
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>>96881530
they only chemically castrate troublesome planets, otherwise the huge human population would stop being a problem in a single generation
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>>96881530
The only case of sterilizations happening anywhere in the Tau Empire is Dark Crusade's Tau ending, and it's pure in-universe speculation by an Imperial character who doesn't have a shred of evidence any sterilizations are happening.
Meanwhile we have seen plenty of cases where the Imperium mass sterilizated its own citizens or just killed them outright.
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>>96881326
>Big blue titties are a powerful motivator.
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>>96881163
yes
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>>96881326
You'd betray your species and Lord for these?
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>>96881547
>The only case of sterilizations happening anywhere in the Tau Empire is Dark Crusade's Tau ending
Wrong. The reason this fucking syphilis flared up again is because it happened again in Elemental Council.

Earth caste newbie asks "What will happen to the humans if they resist?"
Water caste says "We'll separate them from their kids, re-educate them, and sterilize the ones who can't behave."
Earth caste replies "Really? So what would have happened to us? Phew! I thought it would be bad!"
Fire caste adds "It will be bad, they will flip out when they find out."
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>>96881614
Yup.
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>>96881163
Yes.

The Imperium suppresses all of humanity’s best traits. Our ingenuity, our rationality, our pragmatism, our empathy and capacity for love, it’s all been stamped beneath the bootheel of the Imperium, all because the Emperor couldn’t love humanity as ourselves.

But the Tau love humanity for what we are. They embrace us, body and mind, and liberate us to achieve our full potential. The Imperium is like an abusive GF that wants to break you so they can control you, while the Tau are the supportive GF that will stand by you.
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>>96881163
This is not what "Taufags" (aka genuine fans of the faction) want. This is a self-insert sexual powerfantasy that panders to Imperiumfags.
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>>96881788
>But the Tau love humanity for what we are
They don't.
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>>96881795
I do want to fuck a Tau, I don't care if they don't have tits.
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Can love bloom?
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>>96881805
Ah, but they do. When the Tau liberate a human world, they give us food, clean air, clean water, comfortable shelter, superior technology and equipment. For all this, what do they demand of us in return? Nothing, except to do what we do best and help the Empire in the way most suited to our abilities and biology.
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>>96881808
Yes. This reference was always bizarre to me.
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>>96881163
>twittertrannyfaggot artist thread

Normoniggers..
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>>96882305
I genuinely can't even interpret what this post is trying to say.
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>>96882659
Why do people keep writing Tau to talk like chinaman stereotypes
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>>96882468
That you're a twitter tranny artist shill nigger.
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>>96882752
They're communists. Our only real-world analog is China.
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>>96882853
They’re written to be NATO adjacent.
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>>96882853
If anything they're Italian fascists with Japanese aesthetics and modern NATO tactics. The communists are the Craftworld Eldar.
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>>96881614
>race traitor
Yes!
>>96881873
>race mixer
Fuck no!
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Why is it that whenever an argument is started over the Tau it's always the Imperiumfags starting it? Like, you never see issues between Necron fans and Tau fans, or Eldar fans and Tau fans. Literally every time it's the Imperium simps, and it's usually over the simple idea that any faction can be better at them at anything.
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>>96883196
Imperiumfags pick fights with everyone dude, you're not special.
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>>96882957
>Not driving the inferior xeno to extinction with the power of human dick
>Not displaying the superiority of human genetics through generational sexual conquest
Your bloodline will end with you, by you.
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>>96883526
People say this and they have a kid they can't donate bone marrow to.
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>>96883537
>YEAH BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS MEDICAL EVENT THAT HAS A 3.5% CHANCE OF EVEN HAPPENING?
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>>96883526
>diluting your genetics = domination
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>>96881163
I doubt any actual fans of the Tau are fond of the smutposting and retarded racemixing shit.
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>>96883196
Because there is a retarded breed of imperiumfaggot that genuinely thinks that the setting should just be about spesh muhreens fighting ebil spesh muhreens and all xenos factions ought to be squatted.
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>>96883998
You mean there's a retarded breed of imperiumfaggots that are objectively correct?
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>>96884008
You got Horus Heresy for your endless marinewanking, retard.
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>>96882659
This artist is fucking trash. The only reason people post his garbage is because it is just smut or thinly veiled smut.
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>>96881163
Millions of years of evolution and you destroy it to try to have a relationship with a Smurf with whom you cannot reproduce?
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Doesn't the Tau have genetic engineering? They can likely tailor a child to their own taste, incorporating traits from one or none of the parents.

"In the year 6565
Ain't gonna need no husband, won't need no wife
You'll pick your son, pick your daughter too
From the bottom of a long glass tube"
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>>96884035
Tau practice eugenics and the concept of romance and families is alien to them. The parents are matched based on their genetic traits and it is questionable if there is even any actual physical sex instead of artificial inseminations or just artificial wombs etc. Tau children are reared by institutions of their caste, and at best may know their parents from the genetic records but have no actual personal relationship with them.
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>>96884035
>Doesn't the Tau have genetic engineering?
Through selective breeding.
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>>96884012
What a perceptive anon you are.
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>>96883991
I can dig the parody of propaganda given that simp-baiting for recruitment is currently a thing. I'm working on a relatively timid 3rd party sculpt as a Fireblade for a Breacher team comprised of humans and a pair of squats: Shas'O Lyfans and her simp squad. This shit is honestly way preferable to the idiots that sincerely want Tau to be "the good guys with contemporary social progressive values because the Imperium is Nazis" who completely miss the main conceit of 40k.
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>>96884152
I don't think that female tau even have breasts. How would "simp baiting" work if the tau are not even sexually appealing to other races?
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>>96884162
I don't know how you managed it, but you've simultaneously thought too much and too little about it.

You currently live in an age where people use surgery, fashion, and filters to be as fake as possible. Now apply thousands of years of technological advancement to facilitate that psy-op.
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>>96884162
Tau are mammals and the defining feature of mammals is the presence of mammary glands.
>How would "simp baiting" work if the tau have no breasts?
Like pic related.
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>>96884648
>Tau are mammals
No they aren't. Tau are aliens, they definitionally cannot be mammals. At best you could argue that they resemble some mammals in some ways (like by having hooves) but there is no canonical evidence that the resemblance includes them having breasts.
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>>96884674
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>>96881708
Don't lie.
I read the novel. It says that humans are prospering in the T'au Empire.
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>>96884684
That's the primer, and it seems to have some anon fabricated text that's not in the original source.

The Fire Caste were descendants of hunter tribes. Though the Tau are largely vegan nowadays, Fire Caste still eat meat recreationally
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>>96884674
Tau are descended from bovine herbivores. Bovine are mammals.
>they definitionally cannot be mammals
So when researchers are looking for alien bacteria, they're also wrong, because bacteria can only come from Earth?
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>>96884152
>This shit is honestly way preferable to the idiots that sincerely want Tau to be "the good guys with contemporary social progressive values because the Imperium is Nazis" who completely miss the main conceit of 40k.
The T'au are good guys whose ideology is progressive compared to other factions.

>>96884046
There is no matched union anymore. Pjil Jelly retconned it out.
"Life donors" donate their genetic material to facilities called "gene farms". The Earth Caste then uses the gathered genetic material to create new generations of T'au. They also utilize cloning in the process.

In a way, the T'au reproduce similarly to the Kin of the Leagues of Votann.
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>>96882853
They don't really have much in common with communism though. They're much more akin to Medieval India, with its extremely strict caste-based way of life. You have a caste of rulers who decide among themselves who will be king, and organize and oversee the other castes to make sure the nation is prosperous.
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>>96884702
See >>96884695
There is no evidence of that except for T'au having multiple stomachs.
The T'au tribes, before the coming of the Ethereals, ate a lot of meat. Hunting was a big part of their culture.
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>>96883196
Because they don't have clashing narratives with necrons and eldar like they do Imperium. Both codices say they're the bestest but then when they clash someone has to lose.
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>>96884721
Some imperiumfaggots genuinely think that humanity is the best at everything in 40k. There are even some that argue that DAOT humanity was stronger than the pre-fall eldar when nothing in canonical lore supports such an assertion.
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>>96882853
>>96882889
>>96882944
>>96884715
They are described as equalists and collectivists in the lore. The lore outright says that their policies are socialist.
All these are code words for communism.
The concept of sharing your labor and resources with the collective so that the fruits of communality would be enjoyed by all equally and with future generations, is the crux of the Greater Good.
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>>96884725
The DK book "The Ultimate 40K Guide" says that DAoT rivaled the Pre-Fall Aeldari Empire.
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>>96883440
When did anon claim he is special? He just stated that Imperiumfags keep starting fights with other 40kfags for liking factions other than """Imperium""" of ""Man"".
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>>96881163
I wish Tau wives were real :(
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>>96884736
Sounds like bullshit to me. Everything that I've read about both pre-fall Eldar as well as DAoT humanity has made it clear that the Eldar were the undisputed masters of the galaxy before their fall and that humanity lived under their shadow.
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>>96884742
It should have given you a hint. Those smut posters are not actual Tau fans. That anon is certainly an Imperial fag and felt attacked when Imperial fag behavior was called out
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>>96884702
>Tau are descended from bovine herbivores
Since it flew over your head, the joke of that passage is that a scribe who was writing the Uplifting Primer somewhere mixed up the name Tau with cow, and inserted a description explaining what cows are like. None of what it says is accurate. Tau don't have udders, they have breasts (these are distinct anatomical terms). Tau aren't bovine in any way shape or form, either, and they don't chew cud, they are omnivores like humans who eat a mixture of meat and vegetables. It can be presumed that, until we receive evidence otherwise, the Tau probably don't have multiple stomachs because they aren't actually herbivores nor bovine.
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>>96884695
>fabricated text that's not in the original source.
Have the book, it says "descended from bovine herbivores."
>>96884720
So, because humans eat meat now, that excludes us from ever having had herbivore ancestors? Herbivores and carnivores are two completely different evolutionary tracks with no common ancestry? Even a cow will eat meat if given the chance.
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>>96884762
>they have breasts
Any actual canonical proof for this?
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>>96884767
Yes. Watch The Exodite.
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>>96884762
>the Tau probably don't have multiple stomachs because they aren't actually herbivores nor bovine.
They do. Have you read the Farsight and Shadowsun novels by Phil Kelly? Control-F Stomaches.
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>>96884765
Uplifiting primer is full of litera lies and falsehoods because it is meant to be in universe propaganda given to guardsmen. It is the same fucking book that claims that guardsmen can easily overpower orks in melee.
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>>96884772
Phil Kelly is to the Tau what Gav Thorpe is to the Eldar. All their books are noncanon by decree of the fanbase for being utter dogshit.
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>>96884771
I've watched it, but I don't remember it showcasing tau having tits anywhere.
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>>96884779
Tough cookie but Phil Kelly has been the loremaster of Tau lore since 6th ED. Everything new about Tau lore stems from him.
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>>96884780
The flashback scene where the Fire Caste protagonist is talking to the Ethereal. She's not a titty monster but she has a clear breast curvature on her chest. Also showcases her large DSL.
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>>96884784
Phil Kelly didn't even write the latest Tau novel or short stories. Hasn't for years. He's out the door and we can thankfully pretend he never happened.
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Are we not going talk about GW canonizing Tau and human romance in the Elemental Council book? The book outright says that the human male was not only in deep love with the Ethereal Lady, but he felt a burning lust for her too.
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>>96884762
>Since it flew over your head, the joke of that passage is that a scribe who was writing the Uplifting Primer somewhere mixed up the name Tau with cow
That's a whole new cope I haven't seen before. And the GW designers that had the idea of Tau evolving from camel like creatures grazing on the plains of T'au?
>inserted a description explaining what cows are like.
Or he read the main points of a xenos biologis report and put a spin on them. Do you also discount Orks being fungi as mere propaganda, because it's also mentioned in the Primer?
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>>96884794
Blade of Truth came out a few months ago. It's the latest Tau book.
Have you been living under a rock?
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>>96884152
There's two things at work here:
1) The Tau certainly aren't perfect and do have some shady stuff going on with them, but unlike the Imperium most of their 'evil' seems more like necessary evils for the benefit of the empire as a whole rather than grimderp pointless cruelty
2) The Tau don't have to be some gay Star Trek utopia to have people praising them. They just have to be a better option than any of the others. If I'm a human, I'm not going to give a fuck that the Tau aren't some liberal democracy when my only other option is to live in the fucking Imperium
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>>96884773
>"the book doesn't literally say that"
>it does
>"well, it's all lies, all of it"
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>>96884797
NTA
But your attempts to deflect and argue the vague zone are pathetic.
The book is known to have false information regarding every alien race in it. If you think it has truth in it, then prove it with an external source. Using a deliberately erroneous source is either stupid or a sign you are not being serious.
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>>96884797
>That's a whole new cope I haven't seen before.
Then you really are a newfag showing his colors. People on /tg/ have been pointing this out for at least a decade now. Hell, nobody on /tg/ has ever taken the Primer as a serious source of lore because everyone knows it's in-universe propaganda. You must be a genuine knuckle-dragging third world ape to try to take it as serious canon. Would explain why you're posting meme images and pretending they're facts.
>And the GW designers that had the idea of Tau evolving from camel like creatures grazing on the plains of T'au?
Camels aren't bovines. You do realize that, right?
>Or he read the main points of a xenos biologis report and put a spin on them.
Nope, he mixed up what he was told to write about. Nothing he says is accurate - a Magos Biologis would at least measure the actual biological functions of Tau correctly.
>Do you also discount Orks being fungi as mere propaganda, because it's also mentioned in the Primer?
The Primer also claims Orks are weak and timid, easily overpowered by the average guardsman in melee. It was never an authoritative guidebook on actual lore, it's in-universe propaganda.
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>>96884799
>we can thankfully pretend he never happened
Elemental Council is the newest Tau book.
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>>96884826
It's not. "Farsight: Blade of Truth" just came out.
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>>96884788
Why do you lie? I rewatched the entire fucking 3 episode thing and nowhere is it shown that she has any breast curve. In the scene where she talks with the etheral as she is being made a shas'o she is wearing chest armor that hides any breasts if she were to have them and the rest of that series she is enclosed inside a stealth suit.
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>>96884804
I never said the book doesn't say that retard. I said that the primer is in universe lies. There are multiple anons itt disagreeing with you.
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>>96884833
Incorrect. Elemental Council is, and it was great. Phil Kelly is blessedly gone from this hobby forever.
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>>96884850
>>96884833
Elemental Council was released on December 7, 2024
Blade of Truth was released on 12 April 2025

Be serious.
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>>96884819
>People on /tg/ have been pointing this out for at least a decade now.
Do show examples of people dismissing it as the writer mixing up tau with cow. Nobody has bothered to use that on me anywhere I've seen over the decades this argument has been had.
>Camels aren't bovines. You do realize that, right?
Camels also don't have hooves like Tau.
>it's in-universe propaganda.
That doesn't mean it cannot use actual information as the base. They bother to get stuff like Orks being fungi, their hierarchy and rough examples of their equipment, alongside Eldar and Tau stuff right. And then just shit all over them.
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>>96884835
Blind
It's faint but it's definitely there. See also: this model.
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>>96884861
>Be serious.
I refuse. Fuck Phil Kelly.
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>>96884868
Well, too bad. A Shas'O Kais novel is in the works—the third of Puretide's pupils.
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Battlesuits are the bolter porn of the Tau, and big-tittied Tau tomboys are just the Sisters of Battle porn of the Tau.
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>>96884862
>Do show examples of people dismissing it as the writer mixing up tau with cow. Nobody has bothered to use that on me anywhere I've seen over the decades this argument has been had.
You don't have to pretend to be an oldfag for street cred anymore anon, you already got exposed as a newshitter who doesn't even know the Primer is propaganda.
>Camels also don't have hooves like Tau.
And hooves aren't a trait limited to bovines in nature.
>That doesn't mean it cannot use actual information as the base.
Information that was already proven wrong in >>96884762
Ironically you already pointed out even more ways the Primer is wrong about Tau biology by bringing up the actual out-of-universe lore that they descended from camel-like creatures. But of course you ignored all the details that were wrong, even the one you pointed out, because it torpedoes your entire faggot-ass argument. Shitskins never change, refusing to admit they're wrong even when the world tells them they're retarded.
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>>96884866
Show me the breast curve you lying cunt.
And that model is fucking flat as a pankake.
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>>96884880
Try to be less mad about a fictional universe and have some actual arguments.
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>>96884901
NTA
he cooked you.
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>>96883196
>Why is it that whenever an argument is started over the Tau it's always the Imperiumfags starting it?
Imperiumfags take the game too seriously and use the xenos as an opportunity to vent their hatred for other races irl. It’s quite pathetic
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>>96884883
>blind insists on being blind
lel
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>>96885299
There is no observable breast curvature in that scene you lying nigger. If there was you'd be posting evidence of it.
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Fact: Alliance with Tau, Orks and Eldar is the Imperium endgame against Chaos
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>>96885449
If Guilliman actually tries that they're going to have a fucking civil war
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>>96884760
Why do Taufags make shitty smut threads and then blame others for their stupid shit?
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>>96881163
I wish the Tau would become 40K's top faction so the troons will try to subvert and destroy everything you love about it.
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>>96885556
As proven by this thread, the smutfags are not Taufags.
They can't tell you the name of Farsight's tutor.
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>>96885584
>pretending Taufags aren't majority smutfag weebs who don't give a shit about lore, only care about blue boobs
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>>96885854
Never pretended to be anything else.
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>>96884729
>They are described as equalists and collectivists in the lore
Do you think collectivism is solely the domain of communism or something?
They aren't equalists at all. The Etherals are explicitly above everyone. It's "the state guiding the various social classes to a state of harmony," which is basically Mussolini's manifesto.
There is no sign of communism anywhere in them. They don't even talk about sharing anything.
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>>96885909
Ethereals are said in the lore to be "First among equals". The phrase was coined in the anti-communist story "Animal Farm".
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>>96885989
So there's a handful of language policies that reference communism but ideologically they're still fascist.
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>>96885989
> "First among equals". The phrase was coined in the anti-communist story "Animal Farm".
No, the phrase you're thinking of is "Everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others." This is because in Animal Farm, the pigs exploit the propaganda of the freed farm animals and twist the words to their own benefit.
"First among equals" is nearly 2,000 years old. Caesar Augustus made it his motto, "primus inter pares." It defined his beliefs and philosophy of administration, re-establishing the rule of law and emphasizing that the Senate and the rest of the ruling class of the Empire is not above the law, because even the Imperator is not above the law. This gained him great popularity with the people because they were fed up with the nobles and merchants being basically untouchable tyrants who could engage in the most disgusting levels of corruption with zero consequences, and Augustus put an end to that during his tenure. Of course the reality wasn't quite so sweet as that, but it has nothing to do with communism.
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>>96886026
Modern "everything vaguely authoritarian that's not explicitly communist is fascism" fascism or actual early 20th century style fascist?
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>>96886078
......wait yeah you're right, First Among Equals was a Roman saying.
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>>96886078
You're assuming the writers thought that much about it.
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>>96886100
Early 20th century orthodox fascism, before Germany even adopted it and before it became associated with racism.
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>>96886117
But that would include rejection of pacifism (Tau don't like to wage war until absolutely necessary, preferring to handle things diplomatically) and merging of corporate and state power (are there even corporations in the empire?)
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>>96886113
If the phrase were uncommon knowledge I'd agree, but first among equals has way too much history behind it. Being tied directly to the first Roman Emperor gives it a lot of staying power in public consciousness, but it's also used prominently as a descriptor of the Catholic Pope, Orthodox priesthood, and so on throughout history. Given the pseudo-religious importance of the Ethereal Caste to the Tau Empire, I think it's more accurate to ascribe the phrase's origins to these churches, because in many ways the Ethereals are very much like secular popes to the Tau. They even wear the fancy hat.
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>>96886148
Tau do reject pacifism. They are explicitly expansionist empire and their diplomacy is always just a tool they use to see if they can conquer worlds without having to wage war for them, but if diplomacy fails the Tau are fully willing to commit to war to pursue their expansionist goals.
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>>96886158
>They even wear the fancy hat.
Does anyone other besides Aun'va? As much as the blueberries need to be milked out of existence, they did Space Pope dirty killing him off-screen like that.
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>>96883440
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>>96886183
Most Ethereal models we get are ones that are heading into battle, so presumably they would have more ceremonial outfits worn during daily activities. Of course no Ethereal's fancy hat can be as fancy as Aun'va's, though...
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>>96886148
Yes. The Tau may use diplomacy first but they will use warfare even for offensive expansion when diplomacy can't get them what they want.
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When you think about it logically the Tau trying to find a way to interbreed with humans is extremely rational. They lack psykers and know that they can't really fight chaos, the ethereals just suppress the information (and no the nicassar can't help the tau with this, that was always fanon, their psychic abilities are very limited in scope.) When they fought the Death Guard the human created Tau'va goddess saved their asses. it's just a fact.

Breeding a new caste of Tau/human hybrids with brighter souls that are still vulnerable to ethereal mind control....well....isn't that an idea
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>>96886164
EU is expanding as well, but how many member states has been gained through violent means? Tau are willing to and do practice diplomacy, willing to spend years or even decades getting someone on their side. They don't go around invading planets left and right through warfare. That is the last resort, not the first. OG fascists saw war as a necessity and something that should be seen as honorable and noble. Tau see it as so noble they do everything to make it clinical and boring, using names like "crisis" instead of "battle". Anything to make people not think of the mont'au.
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>>96886164
The Tau even use the threat of force in their expansion in conjunction with diplomacy, by doing stuff like keeping massive fleets right above the capital of the world they're "negotiating" with, to make it very clear they can take whatever they're asking for if they feel like it.
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>>96886251
They also regularly betray the people who make agreements with them. This is explored in Elemental Council, the humans who helped bring the world to the Tau were either killed or shipped to far off parts of their empire. One of the characters feels very jaded about having done it because he loves the planet but still thinks it was right.

serves him right, he trusted a blue socialist queer.jpg
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>>96886273
Blue fascists queers, anon. Only a fascist would use the threat of violence to get what they want and betray their allies.
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>>96886244
Keep your garbage racemixing fetish to yourself, freak.
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>>96886248
Man, if the EU was even remotely as based as Tau empire is I migth actually hold some loyalty to this cucked piece of shit of an union.
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>>96886296
Any system of government invented by the French and Germans will never work.
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>>96881163
correction
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>>96886346
EU doesn't work because it is stuck in a retarded, dysfunctional middle groud between being just a trade union and an actual multinational superstate. If it was just like modern day hansiaticleague then shit would work way better, same goes for if it just embraced being the 4th reich but gay and lame then at least it might get shit done, but this current retardshow is doomed to failure and doing just murrica's bidding.
I hate it so much.
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>>96886397
it's not homosexuality if it's with an alien, ask any lawyer
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I find it funny how you desperately try to use modern-political science to a futuristic, multi-planetary, alien species. It's like attempting to describe 21st century politics and ideology from a 14th century or 3th century perspective.
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Honestly I just like the Tau because they're a coherent elite army that fights like modern soldiers.

Sure, the Imperium has elite elements to it, but:
>Space Marines are treated more like a holy order of knights than modern soldiers
>Elite Guard regiments are under-equipped for their threats and don't get nearly enough air support
>There's far too much interdepartmental fighting and corruption for the entire military to be considered elite even if a handful of elements of it are
>None of these elements really make a coherent military per se, you have clashing incompatible military doctrines and training styles being used alongside each other and it just becomes a big mess
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>>96886381
The problem is it was never meant to be a mere trade union even when it was being created. It'll never be anything other than lame and gay, and the day it finally dies will be a good day. All the benefits that I was suppose to get from it have been washed away due to regulations that make internal commerce such a pain in the neck I know stores within the EU that refuse to sell within the EU.
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>>96886413

How did the Water Caste diplomat lose her eye?
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>>96884862
>>96884880
The T'au are based on the Malayn Tapir that was uplifted/went under similar evolutionary pressures as mon'keigh(Humans). When their Eldar creators (following in their own Old One creators footsteps) engineered the T'au they replaced the proboscis with a grafted Q'orl pheremone system. The "bony diamond shaped organ" possessed by Ethereals is likely a psychoreactive wraithbone analog that gives Eldar total control over the "trimtab" of the T'au Empire.

Bonus: The "fish people" insult levied against T'au is a meta spite satirical joke in proper British tradition as the humans leveraging it are likely proponents of the from water to land school of evolutionary theory resulting in a spicy self own.
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>>96886413
>tfw no jaded fire warrior gf
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>>96886273
It's worth pointing out that the T'au treated the humans of that planet roughly because Imperial agents had manipulated them.

The T'au at the end of the book return the humans shipped off and allow the humans to declare independence from the T'au Empire as a form of apology.
Would an evil empire do that?
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>>96886469
People aren't very good at nuance. The Tau make a mistake, and suddenly they're no better than the Imperium which has industrial baby furnaces.
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>>96886439
Eldar engineered the Ethereals with their face organ being the one they got from the Q'orl. Allegedly. There's no indication of them engineering the species as a whole.
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>>96886561
These DoW interactions were so kino.
>"I won't lie to you brother. You've been lied to enough."
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>>96884713
>The T'au are good guys whose ideology is progressive compared to other factions.
Fuck off. They're a literal speciest supremecist interstellar colonial empire. Their one divergence from the Imperium's xenos policy is that they are willing to subjugate rather than exterminate, and that policy is very quickly building a list of "on sight" rhetoric. At best, you can plug your ears and believe they're still naive to what the Imperium learned thousands of years prior, but they're still going to learn that lesson.
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>>96886582
Let's see what GW said about the T'au
They said that the Tau views alien life as worthy of life, understanding, and tolerance. (Warhammer + Tau allid races video).
The Farsight novels and Elemental Council show that the T'au are very interested in the culture of other races. The Tau adopted many aspects of human culture. Smiling is something the Tau adopted from humans.
Humans living in Tau cities are supported with social programs that take care of their education, housing, food, etc.
Aliens and Tau live in the same cities. They trade, work, and socialize with each other, rather than being segregated.

That's hella progressive for 40K.
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>>96886582
Nah, you're just being silly. Their list of 'kill on sight' species is only stuff like and Orks and Tyranids, species that can't really be reasoned with and will always be violent. Even Eldar aren't considered kill on site despite the existence of the Drukhari and the fact that no Eldar has yet to join the Tau Empire.

And they're only 'Ethereal supremacist', not species supremacist. Everyone has to obey the Ethereals, but other than that they're pretty much all in the same boat. And there's no 'lesson' to be learned either, the Imperium's policy regarding xenos is actively harmful to its own survival.
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>>96886100
Mussolini rebranded class-struggle socialism with national identity when making his own socialist club after getting kicked out of the first socialist club.

These authoritarians are all the same assholes and the names don't mean much beyond what color uniform you wear...like Bloods and Crips.
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>>96886557
The Mechanicus theory of """""""divergent evolution"""""" is a red herring in light of the Ethereal revelation.

The Eldar bioengineered each individual "caste" of the the T'au Empire as a means of learning from the mistakes of their Ork contemporaries creating a bioweapon race that is self contained. There's no risk of the T'au becoming a "runaway" species like the Ork if they fall out of line of Eldar/Ethereal control because they lack the ability to be a galactic threat unless all castes coordinate together.

Once you begin to look at the T'au race with the engineered Ethereal you begin to see all of the other aspects of their species (life span, breeding, foundational myth, ideologies) are carefully crafted as part of a broader plan.
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>>96886610
>Let's see what GW said about the T'au
>BL novels
So nothing.
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>>96886614
It would actually be interesting to see how Tau would treat Eldar under their rule, the most likely candidates for such Eldar would probably be exodites though Tau trying to colonize an Exodite world would probably lead to conflict between them and Biel-Tan.

Though, I could imagine that Tau might be able to negotiate some sort of agreement of treating exodite worlds as protectorates within their borders, if they can come to the negotiation table with the exodites.
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>>96886634
>t.
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>>96886614
>And they're only 'Ethereal supremacist', not species supremacist.
What species are the Ethereal?
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>>96886666
I rebuke thee quadruple Satan. The point of convoluted 40k lore, besides being entirely malleable to the readers purpose, is to teach how to infer meaning(induce schizophrenia).
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>>96886659
The problem is threefold:
>You can't tempt the Eldar with trinkets because the Eldar already have one of the highest qualities of life of any species
>The Eldar that don't have a high quality of life like the Exodites are that way deliberately to temper a hardened soul that won't be corrupted
>Eldar regardless of where they're from are very prideful and still consider themselves above the lesser empires and species (and unlike the Imperium, this isn't a statement being made on behalf of a miserable underclass, since even the common Eldar tend to think this way)
I could definitely see the Tau allying with Eldar and having Eldar diplomats and advisors working with them, and it would honestly probably turn out much better than the Eldar trying to work with the Imperium. But anything resembling true subjugation or integration is probably not gonna happen.
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>>96886672
Good question. We don't know. They probably refer to themselves as Tau but we don't know if they're the same species since we have no evidence that they're capable of interbreeding and the Ethereals have an unknown mysterious origin with different body parts.
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>>96886690
Exodites getting Tau meatshields to help during croneworld raids would be kinda neat, but realistically they probably wouldn't want to reveal what spirit stones are all about
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>>96886699
The true nature of the spirit stones is shit the Eldar keep to themselves. Most humans have zero clue of what they are for example. I think that in universe, it is only few humans privy to such xeno lore, be they imperial or chaos aligned, as well as the disperate Eldar groups that know what spirit stones are even if they themselves do not use spirits stones like Deldar.

This short story involves humans coveting spirit stones and the Eldar going to lengths to conceal their nature.
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Are we not going to address that Ethereal powers work on non-Tau?
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>>96886634
this is gay as shit
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>>96886740
I mean they're psykers, why wouldn't they?
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>>96886740
that says nothing about powers
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>>96886740
If GW doesn't, why should we?
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>>96886740
My assumption is that it just means that the Ethereals are very inspiring in the same way that other leaders are for their factions. After all, the Ethereals are certainly probably one of the most benevolent set of leaders you'll find in 40k. Sure they have to make hard choices sometimes but even guys like Vulkan have a darker history than most of the Ethereals.
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>>96886753
That's an invocation of Water. Ethereals chant elemental truths,which result in effects on their followers
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>>96886441
Whatever caste this is, I want a gf from it.
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>>96886968
Milk caste.
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>>96884989
Yes... YES!
THE T'AU'VA WILLS IT!!!
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>>96886970
Weird, I don't remember them being mentioned in the codex.
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Okay, but what's your favorite non-Tau auxillary race? For me, probably the Vorgh, with the Nicassar being a close second.
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>>96881788
Gue'vesa-chan my beloved
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>>96887050
>Nicassar
These guys. It's fun reading about them transitioning from a peaceful race into a bloodthirsty warrior-like race for the Greater Good.
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>>96887007
Look I know we all love O'pai but she is a proud Earth caste scientist and doesn't appreciate the cow comparisons.
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Wish we got more tactical looking Tau art.
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>>96887097
Then she should get a breast reduction.
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>>96887566
Such a thing is punishable by death in the T'au empire.
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>>96887569
Okay, c'au.
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>>96886439
>>96886634
Problem retard. Q'orl Queen being kindapped by Eldar happened after Ethereals united Tau.
Ethereals unification happened in M36, while Q'orl-Eldar deal happened in M37. That's a whole millenium after Tau in their current biological state existed, Ethereals revealed themselves and Tau started becoming interstellar civilization. And if you going to suggest time travel please kill yourself.
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>>96887613
Rude.
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>>96887618
When Q'orl connection was written, Ethereals appeared towards the end of M37. According to this new timeline, even if we assume the Ethereals appeared in 999.M36 and the Land's Vision date remains the same (789.M35), that's mean that the Tau went from cavemen with stone tools and fire to having fortresses and firearms in about 1200 years.
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>>96887746
Alright then. So just another case of James retcons. Still, even then, going from engineered Ethereals to Tau as a whole engineered is a leap in logic. Why not create overseer Caste from the beginning? Do you really need pre-existing, and very specific species, as a basis for such? Just dump Ethereals from the start and then just order them to wait if you really need the wise saviours myth. Tau evolving naturally in the old timeline and then Eldar shenanigans happening makes more sense than them being engineered as a whole.
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>>96887867
My personal theory is that the Tau'va goddess created the Ethereals in the past to make sure she would be born into existence in the future
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>>96881274
I'd betray humanity out of spite. A species that never made me feel welcome or heard and never so much as gave me the slightest indication I am more than productive cattle to them, is in no way entitled to my loyalty.

A child abandoned by his village will TRVTH NVKE it to feel its warmth.
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>>96887867
>going from engineered Ethereals to Tau as a whole engineered is a leap in logic.
It is and there's never been any indication of it. Even if we exclude Q'orl completely, there's still the fact that the Ethereals appeared under mysterious circumstances with lights in the sky and other shit happening, and if they hadn't, the Tau might have just eradicated each other. So it's pretty heavily implied the Ethereals have an unnatural source, whatever it might be.
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>>96887903
There is a problem. Aun'shi, Elemental Council, and The Greater Evil imply that Ethereals don't know how their powers exactly work, find it unsettling, and consider it a burden.
We get the PoV of some Ethereals. They are not on *it*
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>>96887875
I really hate this time distortion bullshit involving warp entities.
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>>96887925
I don't see it as a problem. Orks don't need to be in on anything to have been made by the Old Ones. The Ethereals focus the efforts of the Tau and been guiding them, so whatever their purpose was, must have been enough.
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What's your personal belief on how strong the Tau are? Are they the weakest faction? The strongest? Are they the most serious threat to the Imperium, or a complete joke? We never actually get hard numbers for most things to use so literally any interpretation is valid.
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>>96889104
They are unquestionably the weakest faction and so little threat to the Imperium that they haven't been obliterated simply because the Imperium has too much other shit to deal with and everyone else simply couldn't care less about them. These are the objective facts of the setting. The only thing that they have going for them is the rate of their technological advancement. They exponentially increase their strength in ways the other factions simply can't. Another thousand years and they'll be something to reckon with, if they haven't been destroyed by then.
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>>96889122
>These are the objective facts of the setting
Are they? We can't know how many planets they have, how many battlesuits they have, how many firewarriors they have, or how all those things compare to the Imperium's tech. All we have are vague notions. Battlesuits are easy to produce and are frequently referenced as being 'mass produced', even the bigger expensive ones, which would suggest there are more of them than Space Marines. They are frequently referenced as being 'smaller' than the Imperium, which would suggest they have fewer planets, though we don't know how many. They are advancing and expanding 'rapidly', though we don't know specifically what that means for when they'll catch up in terms of power or where they might be behind. They have less manpower, though we don't know how much less.
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>>96887875
thats not your personal theory, thats my theory ive been posting for years on here...
>>96887867
seems more likely Tau were engineered by Votann to spite the Adeptus Mechanicus. The votann already dabble extensively in genetic engineering and dampening their souls to create warp resistance.

Also the Ethereal's abilities are to this day unexplained. They are some sort of weird unclassifiable power that can be switched on and off at will, that mind controls Tau. Some sort of subtle psychic like power or null power.
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>>96881163
EWWW Kill it and the SiMP that fell for it.
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>>96889366
>obliterates you from across the map and you can't do shit about it
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>>96889104
We know this stuff, Tau overall are in the middle,third place in technology department, strong enough that Imperium can't destroy them because amassing enough forces for that would drain Imperium resources. Better to send massive crusade fleets at space demons.
>A genocidal crusade to exterminate the Tau would be welcomed.>Indeed, the Ecclesiarch of the Adeptus Ministorum has already drafted several sermons on this very subject. >Currently such a crusade is just not possible. >The Tau Empire, although small by the Imperium's standards, still consists of some hundred worlds.>The forces needed to conquer them all would be immense. >The Tau military have already proven themselves a match for the Imperial Guard, and there are too many other more urgent wars, not least the threat of the Tyranid hive fleets, which are a huge drain on the Imperium's manpower.
Taros Campaign, page 12.
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>>96885909
>There is no sign of communism anywhere in them.
>They don't even talk about sharing anything.
Yeah, except all property.
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>>96883196
>you never see issues between Necron fans and Tau fans
Necron fans generally just like the big over the top personalities of most Necron characters or enjoy the evil skeleton robot aesthetic, I don't think anybody defends then as the actual peak society. Necron and Tau also have zero connection.

>or Eldar fans and Tau fans
Eldar and Tau in universe almost sort of get along.

Really, the surprising one to me is that Necron and Eldar fans genuinly get along.
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>>96883196
Taufags recognize their superiors.
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>>96889104
Of the playable factions they are among the weakest but people get too hung up on that.

40k has a "cycles of history" sort of thing going on with its "civilized" factions. A species appears, they rise to power and become a major faction, they encounter some crisis which they fail to manage properly and then they fall into a degraded state and maybe go extinct altogether

The Necrons appeared, rose to power, couldn't deal with their mortality, went to war, lost, sold their souls to the C'tan and are now sad senile robots.

The Eldar appeared, inherited the galaxy after the War in Heaven, became the dominant species in the galaxy, failed to properly manage their "darker nature", misused their warp powers, caused Slaanesh and now exists as a dying species.

Humans appeared, rose as a major power in the Dark Age of Technology, fucked up AI and the rise of psykers and fell apart. The Emperor steps in and tries to fix it, fails, and now the Imperium is a fucked up house of horrors.

Logically then, if you push the timeline forward, the Tau should increase in power until they're a major power. Then some crisis should hit them in the "weak spot" of their society which is followed by falling as a society and being transformed into some degraded state. Then a new upstart species appears and the cycle begins anew.

The only complication for the Tau is that the galaxy itself is way more fucked up now than before. Older species had time and room to develop. They didn't have to deal with Tyranids, the Great Rift and that sort of stuff....
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>>96891439
>Of the playable factions they are among the weakest but people get too hung up on that.
What are the weakest?
>Eldar.
>Imperial Guard.
>Thousands Sons.
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>>96881163
Because they don't realize how caste system works, and they think every Gue'la introduced to Greater Good gets his own T'au girl that looks like those from fan art.
And there's nothing attractive in T'au women, as they're basically indistinguishable from males.
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>>96891439
Part of the cycle is that successive inheritors have weaker "peaks" like chaos is winning in the long term. The Tau might only cover a fraction of the territory the Imperium did, and Farsight with his Khorne sword is likely being set up as essentially their Horus.
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>>96891356
First line:
>as a culture,
So this is purely a matter of tradition and custom rather than economy or law.
>Things such as personal possessions and sole ownership are rare
So they are allowed personal possessions and sole ownership. Not because they are legally forbidden, but because Tau citizens culturally reject the idea. This already isn't communism.
>As they are raised by caste institutions
Castes exist and serve as the main social unit in society. This is definitely not communism.
>ta'lissera
So individual Tau can forge friendships and support structures that go beyond Caste and government bonds. Even less communism.
>Age and experience are venerated
You get extra respect for being old? Definitely not communism.
>The more elaborate the decoration on the scalp and lock, the higher the rank and position
Ahhhh, here we get to the heart of the matter. Tau society is not, in fact, communist in the least. Your importance is dictated by rank and caste.
Either you never read this screencap or you have no idea what communism is.
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>>96892271
>Either you never read this screencap or you have no idea what communism is.
I've read it and I know what communism is. I also didn't write that Tau society is communist in every single possible aspect. What I did write is that private property isn't a thing which is definitely one aspect. Their codex time and again emphasizes their communal nature, their communal living, how the whole matters more than then individual. None of this makes it 100% Marxist communism but it does definitely share many aspects of it. Whether or not they enforce it by law of tradition is entirely irrelevant.

The Tau as described are closer to communism than anything humans have ever achieved despite all the caste complications.

>So individual Tau can forge friendships and support structures that go beyond Caste and government bonds. Even less communism.
This has got to be worst part of your idiot overreaction. I'm pretty sure commies don't want to outlaw friends helping each other.
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>>96892687
>The Tau as described are closer to communism than anything humans have ever achieved
Except Stalinist Russia, Maoist China, Pol Pot's Cambodia, etc.
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>>96892229
>as they're basically indistinguishable from males
Eh, I'm bi, cute androgynous Tau femboys works too
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>>96892229
>indistinguishable
Yeah, other than having slimmer faces and different shaped vagina on their foreheads.
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>>96891424
Well what's funny is that there's millions of tomb worlds, and the Necrons are just as numerous as the Imperium, quadrillions upon quadrillions of Necrons, each of which is a regerating soldier. The Necrons are to the Imperium, what the Imperium is to the Tau...

But if you tell Imperiumfags this, they DO NOT take it well, and insist that the Imperium could defeat the Necrons if they really wanted to.
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>>96892886
Can't wait for them to give Eldar also millions of craftworlds, each with trillions of inhabitants.
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>>96889420
>deep strikes behind you
nothing personal
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Today I will remind them.
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The way it goes is:
Necrons > Power gap > Tyranids > Imperium > Drukhari > Power gap > Tau > Orks > Eldar

So the Tau aren't the most powerful faction, just the most powerful of the minor factions. The Imperium is sort of right in the mididle, not a superpower like the Necrons but a minor power either. And the Necrons are the uncontested superpower of the setting.
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>>96892687
>What I did write is that private property isn't a thing which is definitely one aspect.
But your own screencap admits private property does exist in the Tau Empire. Ergo, your central thesis is basically just wrong right out of the gate.
>Their codex time and again emphasizes their communal nature, their communal living
And none of this is unique to communism. I don't expect someone who's never been to college and simply parrots Hasan talking points to understand that communal living and a strong community ethos =/= communism, but here's your wakeup call. Humans have lived like this for thousands of years before Karl Marx took a shit on paper and burdened us with his jewish mind virus. Does that make all of human history communist? No, of course not, because the economy and the laws did not forbid private ownership of property. The free economic force that Marx defined as capitalism has existed since the days of the ancient Mesopotamian city states.
>Whether or not they enforce it by law of tradition is entirely irrelevant.
It's literally as relevant as it gets. It's the difference between an Egyptian temple being owned by no one because it would be sacrilege for a human to lay claim to the holy idols within, and a Soviet factory being owned by no one because it is illegal for the individual to lay claim to any means of production. It is not illegal for an individual to own a factory in the Tau Empire. Frowned upon? Absolutely. Would he be ostracized for doing something so strange? Definitely. Is he going to get in trouble with the law? No, there's no laws against it.
>This has got to be worst part of your idiot overreaction. I'm pretty sure commies don't want to outlaw friends helping each other.
LOL how naive you are. Rule number one: no one is your friend in a communist hellscape. Everyone will sell you out for good social credit.
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>>96892886
>Millions of Tomb Worlds.
There's billions of Tomb Worlds. Necrons actually ruled the Galaxy as opposed to Imperium.
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>>96894115
>ruled the Galaxy
So did the Eldar for way, way longer, and their empire was where the Eye of Terror is now.
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>>96884689
This. It's a lie. Here is the quote.

‘I’ve never seen a full-scale repression before,’ Ke said. ‘What will happen?’

’Our engagement restrictions will be removed. When the insurrection is crushed, the world’s civilians will be separated from their familial units and broken into work groups. They will undergo indoctrination. Heritage proctors will monitor them for individualist behaviour. They will remediate nonconformity with psychotherapy and re-education.’

‘They’ll be treated like us?’ Ke asked, almost relieved. ‘That doesn’t sound so bad.’
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IIRC the Tau have AI, but they're treated like people. Like, their AI tends to be straight up personality engrams copied from people when it's a fully sapient and intelligent AI, but they don't enslave their AI for tasks but instead treat them like any other citizen, which explains why they haven't had an AI rebellion yet.
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>>96881163
Reminder that Tau have only started to smile and use facial expressions because they saw humanity doing so, and were previously only expressing emotions via gestures.

As such, any Tau depicted smiling is a fucking Humanaboo.
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>>96894217
Indeed, it's a lie.
The whole situation on the planet was engineered by Imperial agents, one of whom was disguised as an Ethereal. Because the planet was treated so roughly, the T'au relinquished it back to the humans as an apology.
What happened on the planet was not the standard.
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>>96894115
Says right there in the Necron codex that the Necrons' chances of conquering the galaxy are virtually zero without the Pariah Nexus plan, which is already faltering.

Not even the Tau rise is describeda s this hopeless
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>>96889122
>hey are unquestionably the weakest faction and so little threat to the Imperium that they haven't been obliterated simply because the Imperium has too much other shit to deal with and everyone else simply couldn't care less about them.
No, that they are not. Apart from Farsight, the Tau are not divided into numerous competing sub-factions. The concentrated strength of the Tau Empire makes them stronger than he average Necron dynasty or craftworld. Even the strongest Necron dynasty doesn't want to be drawn into a war with the Tau and Ultramar at the same time.
The Imperium, as per the lore, can't destroy the Tau because the Tau are too powerful to tackle. It needs a massive fleet and ground forces to break the hundreds of sept worlds, each built like a fortress. The Imperials say that attacking a full established sept world is a daunting task. The First and Second Damocles Crusades both stopped at the first sept world they encountered. I don't think in the entire history of 40K a single sept world (not a colony world) fell to invaders. Even Agrellan survived extermintus.
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>>96896004
Yeah, while 'numbers are meaningless' in the end, I could, if I wanted to, make an argument that there are hundreds of billions of battlesuits, and that each battlesuit is worth multiple Space Marines, and thus any extended ground campaign against the Tau would, essentially, be impossible to prosecute without requiring so many resources than an inefficient decaying empire like the Imperium would never be able to gather such a force.

I don't usually make that argument because on 4chan powerscaling arguments are a pointless and painful endeavor and it sounds too much like I'm jerking off the Tau but the point is that there's more than enough room in 40k to argue that even the Tau are one of the most powerful factions in the setting.
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>>96885889
Why is there a bridge on those glasses if it doesn't have a nose?

Also, not a fan of Tau smut. Eldar or Sisters are where it's at. I'd also take Necron just to see it
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>>96893605
That is completely wrong.
Orks>Necrons (green in the eye sockets)>IoM (still have some green sometimes)> Eldar (craftworlds occasionally have green color schemes)>whatever other gay shit
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>>96896237
presumably that's IoM import
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>>96893679
>But your own screencap admits private property does exist in the Tau Empire.
It says that it's extremely rare. If you think the Tau have limited liability companies, stock exchanges, corporations, capitalism in general.... you are just fucking dumb. It's obvious what's being conveyed here. The Tau are an extremely stereotypical progressive scifi society that's moved past shit like Capitalism. It's almost a copy of the fucking Federation from Star Trek.

>And none of this is unique to communism.
Nobody said it was, stop being a dishonest cunt.

>I don't expect someone who's never been to college and simply parrots Hasan talking points
Cringe sentence from a retard.

>Humans have lived like this for thousands of years before Karl Marx took a shit on paper and burdened us with his jewish mind virus.
Yes, and Marx literally called hunter gatherer societies "primitive communism".

>The free economic force that Marx defined as capitalism has existed since the days of the ancient Mesopotamian city states.
Imagine being all "you never went to college" and then writing something this retarded.

>It's literally as relevant as it gets.
It actually isn't. Whether enforced by culture or law, it's still listed as very rare.

>It is not illegal for an individual to own a factory in the Tau Empire. Frowned upon? Absolutely.
How do you know it's merely "frowned up". Have you been there? Maybe the Tau will fucking beat you to death if you get any big business ideas.

>Definitely. Is he going to get in trouble with the law? No, there's no laws against it.
Oh, you have access to Tau legal codes now? You really think the Ethereals are going to let some Earth caste dude become a billionaire industrialist? Go ahead, find some proof somewhere for Tau capitalism. Actual fucking proof, like a BL story or something.
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>>96893679
>It is not illegal for an individual to own a factory in the Tau Empire. Frowned upon? Absolutely. Would he be ostracized for doing something so strange? Definitely. Is he going to get in trouble with the law? No, there's no laws against it.
Under this moron logic, the United States can't be described as capitalist since nobody has outlawed you and your mates fucking off to live in some commune even though 99.99% of the country lives and breathes capitalism and has numerous institutions devoted to it. Go back to your college and tell them to give you your money back.
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>>96895890
I've always been confused about how the Imperium/ Mechanicus doesn't have something akin to the Tau's gun drones. You'd think they'd have servo skulls with like the equivalent of a laspistol or something, especially the higher ranking Mechanicus in addition to the Castellan robots but they've never mentioned anything like that to my knowledge
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>>96896040
Tau benefit mostly from being actually unified. Imperial can barely get everybody to work together when Abbadon comes knocking, getting everybody on the same page to do another invasion of the Tau just won't happen.
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>>96885854
No, I don't give a shit about your opinion. There's a difference.
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>>96898193
It’s literally cheaper for them to throw more manpower into battle than to use drones
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>>96896849
>Under this moron logic, the United States can't be described as capitalist since nobody has outlawed you and your mates fucking off to live in some commune
I don't know why you think this is some kind of gotcha. Capitalistic communes just need to survive the economic pressures on them. The only limitation is it needs to produce more profit than it incurs expenditures.
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>>96896787
>It says that it's extremely rare.
For cultural reasons, as I already pointed out your screencap says to begin with. You'd really like to ignore that little sentence, wouldn't you?
>It's almost a copy of the fucking Federation from Star Trek.
Not even remotely similar. The Federation is not a caste system, for starters.
>Nobody said it was, stop being a dishonest cunt.
Then why did you bring it up in the first place? If you are now backtracking and saying it's not a communist trait, then great, the argument is settled because you recanted your central thesis.
>Cringe sentence from a retard.
Nice cope.
>Yes, and Marx literally called hunter gatherer societies "primitive communism".
And Marx doesn't know what he's talking about, yes. But thanks for revealing yourself to be yet another Marxist scum trying to co-opt 40k into being your personal soapbox!
>Imagine being all "you never went to college" and then writing something this retarded.
Imagine not knowing that capitalism is the foundational force of human economics and pretending to be college educated. People want goods > they buy or barter for goods. This has been the case since the dawn of humanity.
>Whether enforced by culture or law, it's still listed as very rare.
Nope, you don't get to play Schrodinger's communist. Either personal property does not exist or it does: pick one. You're now squirming around the point like the commie slime you are because you already realized you misrepresented what the Tau codex says and you can't actually argue with the codex itself.
>How do you know it's merely "frowned up".
Because as the screencap you so helpfully posted says, it's a matter of culture, not law.
>Oh, you have access to Tau legal codes now?
Read your own screencap. If you want to argue this any further, you're arguing with the codex itself. I rest my case.
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>>96896985
She's one of my favorite Tau cows, along with O'pai.
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>>96883970
With the right Lebensborn, human stock could proliferate without denying couples the products of their love (you CAN say 'mongrels', but that's just RUDE). Given time, mixfolk would come back around to 'pure' human.
Then again, why the T'au would do such a thing is beyond me. It's just a nice thought.
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>>96900648
Tau Cow you say?
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>>96900897
Indeed.
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>>96882944
>The communists are the Craftworld Eldar.
Nah
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>Taufaggots contribute nothing of value
>Tauniggers clog the board with shitty smut even a 13 year old /b/tard would be ashamed of fapping to
Must be a day ending in Y. As in "why couldn't Taucucks be aborted and prevent them from blighting the world?"
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>>96901093
Such excellent seethe. It sustains me.
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I have plans that I cannot share with you right now because the haters will sabotage me.
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>>96901176
Godspeed you mad genuis. It's easy to 3D print a sexy Tau but kitbashing one is true art.
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>>96884012
Also tau aren't that attractive.
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>>96899961
Because it is idiotic to characterize how a society functions in general by pointing to its obscure exceptions. You look at what the norm is, not its rare exceptions
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>>96900033
>The Federation is not a caste system, for starters.
Hence the use of the term "almost". Go back to your college and tell them teach you how to read.

>Then why did you bring it up in the first place?
I didn't. You made it up and pretended I said it.

>yet another Marxist scum trying to co-opt 40k into being your personal soapbox!
Super convincing argument, your college must have cost you a lot.

>capitalism is the foundational force of human economics
hahahahha. Yes, so foundational it's merely several centuries old.

>People want goods > they buy or barter for goods.
This is not sufficient for an economic system to be considered capitalist. The fucking Soviet Union had trade. Is it capitalist you fucking idiot?

>Either personal property does not exist or it does: pick one.
Personal property isn't the same as private property. You'd know that if you knew anything about what we're talking about.

>Because as the screencap you so helpfully posted says, it's a matter of culture, not law.
And how do you know the cultural penalty is merely being "frowned up". Do you honestly fucking think the Tau would let some guy privatize everything and be like " :( welp that's not good, we must however respect his property rights!". Cultural penalty has included all sorts of shit from mere disapproval to fucking honor killings.

>Read your own screencap.
Stop pulling shit out of you ass. The screencap and the rest of the codex are extremely clear. You have to reach really far up your ass to pretend like the Tau want anything to do with capitalism. Over and over the codex beats your over the head with the message. Community, not individual. Common good, not private interest. It is insane to point at peripheral exceptions in order to argue that their society doesn't actually work like that.

It's like saying the Imperium isn't a terrible place to live because Paradise world exist for its elite to enjoy.
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>>96900033

You are confusing economy with capitalism. Capitalism is an early modern phenomena. Yes, resource scarcity and fight over resources is ancient, so is capital, but capitalism itself arose from agrarian mercantilism around the 14th-16th century. The Tau have a different history, with them being unified aby the Ethereals around the time when gunpowder appeared. They are also a much more advanced civilization than us with AI, genetic engineering, nanotech, etc. Comparing them to modern ideologies and systems would in reality be as unintelligible to us as the Microsoft Anti-Trust Suit would be to Joan of Arc. They are social animals, so they will have stuff like companies or cooperatives and we know the water caste has merchants. So they probably have ways to cost-account resources. What it is more doubtful if T'au trillionaries exist or if they exist they may be less because of what they own and more the position they hold.
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>>96904334

Let's compare them with other factions. The Imperium of Man is not capitalist in any modern sense; it's a nightmarish fusion of feudalism, theocracy, and held together by a decaying bureaucratic state, all operating on a galactic scale.

The Imperium is not run by CEOs; it's run by planetary governors, rogue traders, ecclesiarchs, and tech-priests. A Planetary Governor "owns" their world in the name of the Emperor, much like a medieval lord held land from a king. They owe tithes (troops, resources, psykers) in exchange for autonomy and protection. This is not a market transaction; it's a feudal obligation. The massive, decaying bureaucracy administers this feudal tithe. They don't manage a market; they manage a system of extraction and allocation for the sole purpose of sustaining the war machine and the state.

Like in the T'au empire, the ultra-powerful in the Imperium derive their status from position and control over assets (a planet, a Space Marine Chapter, a forge world, a Navigator House). However, unlike the T'au, this power is often heritable and personal. A Governor's family can rule a world for millennia, treating it as their private property. This is far closer to feudal lordship than a T'au's state-appointed command.

The Imperium is a pre-capitalist, feudal-theocratic state. Its economy is based on obligation, tribute, and dogma, not market competition.

The Orks: Might Makes Right & Fungal Capitalism. The Orks have a bizarre but fascinating economic model. The only capital is violence and Teef: Their "currency" is teef, which they naturally grow and which decay. This is a commodity currency, but one tied directly to their biology and strength. A powerful Warboss is the state, the military, and the biggest "corporation" all in one. His power comes from his personal might and his ability to attract a mob. It's a brutal, anarcho-capitalist system where the only regulation is whether you're strong enough to defend your pile of scrap.



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