Fish Elf Edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>96885279>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread question:Lumineth, Idoneth, Sylvaneth, Kurnothi, or Daughters of Khaine, what's your favorite flavor of Aelf?
>>96895697Umbraneth
Now that the dust has settled, why did the Helsmiths of Hashut flop?
>>96895502>>96895674>>96895689I get where you guys are coming from, but I don’t think it’s completely over. Yeah, things have slowed down no denying that but scenes always ebb and flow. I remember when late 2nd felt dead too, and then 3rd came out and suddenly the store was packed again for a few months. I think part of it is just fatigue. Too many changes, too fast. Most people don’t want to relearn the game every couple of years. But once things settle and GW actually focuses on building up the factions again instead of constant resets, it might find its footing. The Old World’s cool, sure, but it’s also a nostalgia project. Give it a year and it’ll be the same pattern hype, burnout, quiet. I’m still running games when I can. As long as two players show up, it’s not dead yet.
>>96895697>TQI would say Idoneth, and it was originally, but GW's sort of mis-management(for lack of being able to think of a better word as I type this) of Idoneth as a faction is slowly wearing down my enjoyment of them and Lumineth are filling their place.Cool art, though.
>convince friend to try out spearhead since he's not too into the armies available in 40k>he wants to go stormcastmy disappointment immeasurable
>>96895729>as long as two players show up>it’s not dead yetbased eternal optimist anon. Respect, genuinely. Every scene needs one guy like you keeping the light on while the rest of us drift off to whatever shiny new system GW dangles next. But man, it’s hard not to see the writing on the wall. The passion’s gone, the hype’s gone, even the memes are gone. When /tg/ isn’t shitposting about AoS anymore, that’s how you know the pulse is flatlining. Keep playing though. Someone’s gotta be there when the cycle starts over and we pretend to be surprised that AoS 5.0 “brings back the magic.” Stay strong, brother. Breathe deep of that copium.
>>96895697Lumineth. Can’t believe I’m saying this as someone who hated elves once, but they managed to grow on me over time. And it was for the elfiest elf that could be elfed.
If they did a Warcry 3e starter set do you think they'd pull a Kill Team and put the Stormcast Heroes in the box? If so, who'd their opps be? StD for equalish unit numbers?
Didn’t expect this many replies, honestly. Feels weirdly comforting knowing it’s not just my corner of the realms going quiet. Reading all your takes the hopeful ones, the cynical ones, the guys still fighting the good fight it’s like looking at every stage of the same slow farewell. I’m not angry about it anymore. Just tired, I guess. I loved AoS for what it was the wild, messy, overblown thing it tried to be. It had heart, even when it didn’t make sense. But maybe that heart’s just beating somewhere else now. I’ll probably dust off some square bases, see what The Old World feels like. Not out of spite, just... curiosity. Maybe that’s where the spark went. Either way, thanks for the talk, anons. Feels good to know we all saw the same sunset. Sigmar keep you or whatever god you’ve still got faith in.
>>96895748I mean it’s gotta be skaven.
>>96895748Possibly. Opponents, anyone. I wouldn't care about the Stormcast and would get rid of them.>>96895697There's only one goddess I kneel before
>>96895741>When /tg/ isn’tI know this is some pre written post by some dude same fagging, but trying to use this as your argument really shows how dense you are.
>>96895780homphobia is against board rules
>>96892846how did you get that texture on the skink? was it a special painting tool or did you just press it with something?
>>96895847Those are print lines.
>>96895502>>96895729Yeah, we're definitely in a trough, but it's by no means over. Sadly since we're heading into the yearly holiday season lull a bit earlier, the doomposting is going to skyrocket.As for my personal experience, 4th has been my most active edition. From about the middle of 2nd I played almost exclusively with my friend and his brother, then just my friend. A local store within a reasonable distance happened to start doing RTT's. We had regularly 8 or so dudes, then the local tourney grinding team had some guys come in and double our attendance, but it was a double edged sword since I'm not very good and they bring GT practice lists, so it's basically an autoloss vs them. A store closer to them is starting RTT's back up, though, so who knows how that'll affect their attendance to ours. I don't know what it is about the metroplex I live in, but it is DEAD comparatively for wargames. Sure game stores are a dime a dozen, but trying to find one where you don't get looked at like a second-class citizen for asking about wargames or that stocks Warhammer beyond the tiny shelf full of dust-covered kits and outdated books is hard. I'm lucky I enjoy painting so I can just keep my head down and work on my models until the community excitement starts back up again. >>96895729Attitude of a king.
>>96892737Always buy second hand, if it hasn't release in the last couple months there's going to be cheaper options on ebay and in local stores. I've been grinding ebay auctions and bids and have bought the better part of a 2k KO list. Some factions like gitz are quite expensive unfortunately. I was looking at a second hand squiq battleforce box and it was like $200 for less than 700 points of units, even if your building them to be the higher point cost ones. Unfortunately horde armies are just always going to be more expensive, but if your smart, you can find deals on /r/miniswap, local stores/discords, else where online second hand to make whatever army your trying to build more affordable.
Do you think we will see Helsmiths of Hashut second wave at the end of this edition? I love them and i NEED the Lamassu
>>96895909while there are other low unit count factions, Helsmiths is definetly the least complete and needs more to feel like a real faction. Considering how well they're doing and how popular they are, I would expect GW has stuff in the works for their next batch of models, if it's not going to be part of that upcoming announcement already.
>>96895909An entire wave? I doubt it. We still have so many more books left to cover in 4th, and I dont think gw encountered any production delays that could hinder it like covid did, leading to a lumineth situation. An end of edition campaign that gives them a new toy alongside some scenery or endless spells? Maybe.
>>96895917>Helsmiths is definetly the least complete>fyreslayers bleeding out in the corner with 3 identical unitslol
>>96895909I'd be happy if they got a unit sorta akin to those dishonored FW models with the full face helmets
>>96895919>I dont think gw encountered any production delays that could hinder it like covid did, leading to a lumineth situation.It's funny how people still get mad about LRL getting "a second wave so soon". Their initial launch had less units than HoH.
>>96895909The rumour says lamassu are being held back for TOW Chorfs. HoH will focus more on daemon engines.
>>96895953Is wfg that slow for you?
what are some cool Idoneth color schemes?
>>96895953GW literally spoiled Lamassus in a HoH lore article and in the book.>>96895909Lamassus are coming, anon. Dont worry. Just be patient, but i dont think in this edition. Maybe with luck.
>>96895933the entire fyreslater faction is 1 unit, 2 if you want to be generous and say that putting the same unit on a lizard makes it different. GW has painted themselves into a corner by calling them slayers and defining slayers as naked dwarves, so every unit is just a naked dwarf in a slightly different pose. There's no expanding that can be done, they just have to admit they fucked up and either soup them with the dispossesed or squat them entirely.
>>96895909It would be pretty funny if Helsmiths got three Battletomes in two years like Lumineth did
>>96896037They're called Fyrelayers but they aren't actually Slayers. They're basically pretty normal fantasy dwarves with less armor and a fire gimmick. It would be pretty easy to come up with new units for them.
>>96896055Is this is why of all the units they have so far, the most armor any unit has is a helmet? What a conincedence they're called slayers and look like old slayers but aren't actually slayers. Can't wait for that full metal armor Fyreslayer unit. Coming any day now, I'm sure.
>>96896078Why are you so hung up on the armor? Fyreslayers don't rely on armor because they use their rune magic instead. Wanting "Fyreslayers but armored" is dumb because that cuts against the established lore.Luckily, it's possible invent new units that aren't an existing unit but wearing more armor.
>>96896103> is dumb because that cuts against the established lore.I mean it doesnt. Its just inconvenient for them because the ur tattoos would shoot out of them when they become ignited. How one can make armor that WORKS with that in mind would be pretty interesting but dwarves are known for their craftsmanship.
>>96896103>Why are you so hung up on the armor?because how else are you going to design a unit that looks different? They all have mohawks and don't wear clothes. This severely limits how you could design new units. >Luckily, it's possible invent new units that aren't an existing unit but wearing more armor.Without giving them clothes or armor, or changing the hair styles, what is left? New weapons? They're not chaos mutants, you can't change their general body shape. Like I said, GW painted themselves into a corner and there's nothing really else they can do for new units.
>>96896224how about a cavalry unit? some artillery? maybe some kind of avatar or greater magma elemental like a larger proper monster version of the invocation?there are a ton of options. saying there's "nothing really else they can do for new units" when they havent even given them a standard roster selection yet is fucking laughable. they havent even exhausted the whfb-->aos kit refreshes for slayers, nevermind actually inventing new units. the problem isnt that they wrote themselves into a corner. the problem is that they never even wrote anything at all.
Tomorrow water lady, and saturday full reveal of AoS WarhammerQuest Darkwater. I love it.
>>96896291I dunno about the full thing but yeah we’re finally gonna see the last of the main cast. Wonder how much it’ll cost, I don’t think there’s any terrain, so here’s s hoping it’s still as much as cursed city?
>>96895697i got kicked out of my tabletop group last weekend for kitbashing a silicone slaaneshi tentacle as terrain. i can't believe how prudish you all are. if you're reading this, jeromie, drop dead okay?
Soon…
Never played a 2,000 point game but I just signed up for CanCon.Do I have a chance of winning any games?
>>96896368probably not. What army?
>>96896368I looked up cancon and it's a gun festival so uhhhh I don't think any army beats silenced smg
>>96896349This didn't age well.
>>96895953There are not going to be any releases for Chaos Dwarfs in The Old World.
>some guy tries to stir shit with chatgpt tier bait>does it at 5amLmao retard bless your heart>>96896291Last week they showed off the mini on monday right? We could be seeing her later today.>>96895966There's this gold scheme I saw and really like
>>96896435Correct. Aquatic Maiden is coming today.
>>96896435Kinda wanna see how they painted the kings mount. What style is that, NMM?
>>96896474I can't really tell. I think it's tmm with a good dose of washes, but I'm not sure.Oh and also, do we know what november's mini of the months is yet? Did I completely miss that?
>>96896374DoK. I have played 1 K point games and have also played other games so it's not like I have played no games ever and know nothing.Not sure, either DoK or Gitz.>>96896379Lol. In Canberra next year
>>96895873kino
>>96896498>I think it's tmmThis looks easier to do than nmm? Ill probably try this on my next project. Maybe some reject chaos knights.
>>96896533Looks like they make fairly liberal use of airbrushing, though I haven't seen people use that for metallics a whole lot. I guess that'd be more common in 40k/30kGood luck with your knights anon
>>96896224>or changing the hair stylesThey don't hae hair, they have helemt crests. And the genral shape of the helemt and crest already varies
>>96895909>Do you think we will see Helsmiths of Hashut second wave at the end of this edition?nonothing for 3 years, then a pity hero, spells and scenery, then nothing for 2 more years
>>96895909I can see the llamasu being an end of edition narrative treat like trugg, but that's if you're very lucky. More likely nothing til 5th, when they'll get a pity hero + scenery and spells and shit, and then in another 3 years they'll get a second wave in 6th
>>96896037If you believe this you are both blind and dumber than bricks, people love the new aesthetic the flamekeeper & Warcry warband went with.
>>96896291The idea of revealing all the most boring, bland ass models first and then the interesting protagonists/villains all at once later is a fascinating marketing strategy
>>96896718They're on the cover, so their hands are tied. Besides, I'm pretty sure they were planning to show the box off wholesale at the preview show
>>96896718I feel like the water lady could be the most interesting of the 4, if the water effects she seams to have on the zoomed out picture look good close up
>>96896718they didn't want to reveal anything until the actual show, you build better hype the most you show at once in the best way possible and in the ideal timeframe before the release of the box so they showed just the cover and the minimum they could wring out of it, the 4 shitters on the cover
>the box art shitters are actually the 4 most boring models in the box, with all the other heroes beeing cool shit that GW can keep hiddenControlled leaks shizos. We can't stop winning
>>96896729I'm always wary of sculpted effects but surely they can't fuck up water. Eidolon of Mathlann looks pretty fucking slick so I guess there's hope
>>96896720>>96896731The idea it’s part of the marketing strategy to put the four most boring heroes on the cover of the box, so you can be hyped when you see pictures of the cooler stuff inside of it elsewhere, is fascinating
>>96896804They're the most boring heroes to someone who's already an aos customer, because what's otherwise most appealing to an aos customer is at a first glance repulsive and confusing to anyone else, and Warhammer quest boxes try to appeal to an outside demographic.The important part of the cover was putting front and center the human male fighter and the dwarf, the two women are there because they are boring and don't change the scene.
I like the fluff on the quest characters so far. Except the dwarf. I dont really even hate him, I just dont see how his background is gonna materialize in the game. Maybe he gets moments of shame? idk.
I can't get invested in the AoS lore. I tried so many times but I simply can't find anything to get me hooked. I'm playing/collecting AoS since the day 0. I remember talking people into giving it a try, explaining to the LGS owner what the first GHB was since people were giving literally no fucks back then. I'm still around, managing the local playgroup that exists for 10 years now and sharing stuff here as well and yet I can't find anything in the lore that would see me even remotely interested in the story. I like some of the battletomes in the vacuum but the general setting premise is so inconsistent, detached and chaotic, it makes me actively avoid getting attached to any characters or locations. /blog
>>96896841sucks to suck
>>96896841
>>96896841Warhammer has never had ongoing stories? It's just misc sprinkled fluff The whole THIS EDITION THE HIERARCHY OF POWER IN THE MORTAL REALMS WILL CHANGE FOREVER is soulless marketing slop and characters are irrelevant because GW will never do anything to change their character until another end times
>>96896886>characters are irrelevant
Let's say, hypothetically, AoS ends up failing in terms of sales like WFB did.You need to wrap everything up in half a year, with no plans for next game. Just can it until we come back to it.- Do you make a propper send-off or half-ass a "Rocks fall, everyone dies" ending?- Would you leave a final errata for the last edition, that fans could you use and expand upon ?- How do you approach the antagonist forces?
>>96896895Sure, Teclis is responsible for Lumineth and Tahlia the Freeguild but it's all fluff related to the inception of armies. What's their relevance now? How have the changed or interacted with the narrative? They'll introduce the new CoS hero who's stated to have Har Kuron but guess what - nothing will come of that. It's all just a list of facts about characters no more relevant to the narrative than their blood type or favourite food. What has Gotrek done? It's just stasis
>>96896903open ended campaign booksthe realms, fluffwise, simply drifts out of focus far into the distance and beyond the horizon, to keep on fighting forever, or be used in occasional references, while the important actors do shit that allows them to jump back to the old world
>>96896903I would actually like an End Times style Sigmar and Nagash team up with rules for running Death alongside SCE/Humans. Finally I can field chaotic good Mannfred with !Tarsus like the RGW books. It'd be interesting to see if the Duardin gods patch things up to now they've introduced familial strife.
>>96896903if a mainline title failed then chances are its being bought outright or the company has outright vanished.
>>96896922GW's only mainline is 40k lmao AoS and TOW perform modestly well sure but it's just another Bloodbowl internally, a little pet project whose main aim is to combat competitors for shelf space in third party stores and brain space in communities
>>96896927uh huh, you sure are bored.
>>96896903I'd do literally nothing, just let it fade
>>96896903death of the prince collision of the realms siege of the heavenstime travel plot
>>96896930What about that upsets you? AoS isn't going anywhere and likely never will even if it does perform poorly (which every shareholder report contradicts). The only thing troubling AoS is GW being located in a third world country that can't accommodate it's need for additional factories and warehousing
When is the reveal show i can't be bothered to google it
>>96896994Saturday.
>>96896994Two days ago? We got Darkwater, Maggotkin, DoK and a new campaign book with Spearhead tie in boxes for Skaven, CoS, LRL, and Fyreslayers. Skaven and CoS has new stuff
>>96896994Saturday mateEarly sunday night if you're a yuro
>>96897019>wooden shield and kettle hatPoorsmith of Hashut
>>96896908>What's their relevance now? Tahlia herself is doing what she can to secure Embargard since the crusade, Teclis is out of commision and is likely whats going to be what lets slaanesh have an opportunity to be set free in 5th edtion which has been something that's been in progress since the settings inception. Also lumineth in general are kinda fucking with elf-human elf relations right now because they keep forcibly trying to enlighten everyone, can probably blame his lack of supervision on that too. >They'll introduce the new CoS hero who's stated to have Har Kuron but guess what - nothing will come of that. who is in said Embargard with Tahlia, and is on speaking terms with her, which that alone already sets up an insinuation he and his anti Har Kurnon/ anvilgrad loyalist base even stronger, and between his faction and morathis already preexisting opposition makes Har Kurnons future kinda iffy. Not to mention shes already one of the central figures actually holding BACK the rats back, she might end up returning to a city that already has eyes on it with exhausted resources to contend it with.>It's all just a list of facts about characters no more relevant to the narrative than their blood type or favourite food.I can honestly only say thats relevant to only "maybe" something like the additional cursed city vampire heros.
>>96897062>Here's my fanfiction Proved my point
>>96897073good job anon, you got me.
>The Varanspire is a blade raised in challenge, its tip directed at the throat of the heavens. At its base, aspirants gather, and bleed one another in temples and fighting pits. They seek ingress; they seek the eye of the gods; they seek a master who can deliver them unto the Path’s final steps. Only a few recognise the folly in this, and for those that do, it is often too late. The Dark Gods demand supplication, but they loathe supplicants. As avatars of discord, contradictions such as this are written into their nature.>The master of the Varanspire has achieved his dominion over the Path by becoming a creature of contradiction himself. He has done it by raising monuments and abandoning them to the care of cravens and killers. He has done it by building a throne for himself, yet leaving it empty. He respects no throne save the saddle of his daemon steed, whose winged shadow is recognised as an omen of war across the breadth of reality.>The master’s trials are many, despite his power. Jealous shadows plot his unmaking, and deathless legions encroach upon his holdings. There is always a reason for him to be elsewhere – far from his Varanspire, far from his throne room. Yet he is here now.
>>96896987>deflection>irrelevant lust provoking image
No mid edition campaign books?
>>96897099we're still in the scourge of ghyran. Its still got more juice in it for a little while.
>>96897099Ravaged Coast? Idk how 40k does it but that's probably a good guess for AoS' release schedule
>>96897099Nobody even remembers Ravaged Coast.
>>96896841Read a book and engage with the world, if you want a story you’re going to have to read one, not the battletomes. you’re acting like someone can just hand that engagement to you secondhand
>>96897111Everyone was hyped for a thematic anvil of apotheosis based supplement, especially considering 90% of the game cannot play with AoA right now, but it's just a random weapon upgrade table
>>96897118I think anon just has a case of aphantasia, if you stuck with a setting that long and you're not even making your own stories, then Idk what to call you.
Dwarf Holds when they release should get dwarfy steampunk tanks. They should be the opposite of Kharadron with strong tanky ground forces.Cities should get more walkers
>>96896908>How have the changed or interacted with the narrative? Teclis had a whole campaign book about the shit he was doing with the status quo that ended with him getting fucked up in a way that’s been expanded on to develop his character, and nagash getting sent to the old people’s home for two whole editions. Tahlia has a pretty solid novel about herself that’s set between her 3e appearences and dawnbringers, which focuses on her development and growth from a mercenary to a leaderRead a book, lorelet
>>96897137The idea that this khazalid holds shit is just dwarf soup, but only for fyreslayers, AND ruining city duardin in service of just doing Dwarf Holds 2, makes me want to blow away james workshop with a 12-guage. Grabbing the first new faction you ever introduced into the game and taking them back out behind the woodshed for their 10th anniversary, after making them a big part of the setting as just guys around everywhere, is such miserable shit. Who wants this
>>96897138Yeah, Teclis finally announced the 2nd edition hype narrative had ended just as Alarielle ended the 3rd edition hype narrative and 4th edition will end with the hour of ruin being put to rest by another god
>>96897137No, old world dwarfs should get the tank to go alongside the gyrocopter, while aos dwarfs should get golems
>>96897137You’ll get a golem. >>96897146>ruining city duardinBut they’re not? These are duardin with their own lodges. Completely separate from them. >Who wants thisDepending on how it’s executed, and if they finally have a way to circumvent the mobility issue, me.
>>96897137Rumours using WHF art is discouraging but the fact TOW inherited unreleased Dispossessed kits surely indicates they'll be more unique? Idk but if CoS gets cogforts I doubt Dorfs will too
>>96897157>old world >tanks You’re going to get lanky goat riders and you’ll pretend to love it. Gyros barely make sense at all in tow.
>>96896908>nothing-ever-happens nigga talking about har kuron
>>96897146>Who wants thisI think a lot of the convergence we see where AoS develops to look or feel more like 40k and WHFB/TOW can be pretty easily explained by the people in charge of narrative and product development being a bunch of Gen X dudes who cut their teeth working on those other IPs. It's what they know.
>>96897162I don't care about tow being technically a different time period than old fantasy, its purpose is providing old and new models that fit said old fantasy
>>96897167not to mention Phoenicium and the rumoured downfall of various other cities coinciding with the upcoming CoS squatAoS is actually quite momentous. BoC and Bonesplitterz are now gone, Fyreslayers and Dispossessed are getting merged, CoS Aelves will be squatted, etc
Everyone excited for the next amazing sculpted female hero face to be shown today
>>96897176>Fyreslayers and Dispossessed are getting merged,I don't know why anyone believes this. Dispossessed are gone. If Fyreslayers get an expansion, it won't be dispossessed, it'll be a different kind of Fyreslayers
>>96897178for once it's a woman for a female archetype at least
>>96897181Ah yes, the >they've only been right every other time they've leaked stuff! This time they're surely just making shit up we're obviously getting refreshed Dispossessed not the TOW kits back again
>>96897178She was what I voted for to be shown first so yeah I'm a little bit excited.
>>96897181>If Fyreslayers get an expansion, it won't be dispossessed, it'll be a different kind of FyreslayersAnon all rumours mention that its a mix between fyreslayers and more traditional dwaefs
>>96897181We have reliable rumorsstrap in
>>96897171>fit old fantasyWow and like I said gyros, let alone tanks, don’t fit that. Hell most 7-8th ed shit doesn’t. Old fantasy in itself has different connotations, do you mean 5th edition or 6th edition at the very least? Because both of those versions of your “old fantasy” are two entirely different settings. >its purpose is toIs to be a trademarketable product, as we can see with warriors of chaos almost becoming “norsca”.
>>96895697Love me Idoneth. Definitely one of the most unique factions of the setting.
>>96897196Don't be a slippery retard
>Dorf Vs Chorf box is possible in your lifetime only if you exercise every day anons
>>96897189>>96897194Exactly, a mix between Fyreslayers and standard Dwarfs. So not dispossessed. A new thing for Fyreslayers
Man that fyreslayer in the warhammer quest box is really something
>>96897171TOW is not WHF, it's a reimagined original high fantasy noblebright setting with living gods gracing the battlefield, innumerable steam tanks, etc
>>96897210>throwing axes>traces of orange dye on the beardEmo Runeson
>>96897208No, it's fyreslayers and dispossessed the same way gitmob aren't mixed with moonclan despite being one battletome.
>>96897208Would you say the Darkwater Dwarf is a new Fyreslayer?
>>96897158I think this idea that actually they’re going to be a completely seperate group of survivors of the khazalid empire who were hidden away in their surviving holds (unlike the Helsmiths, who… are also that, and have their justification for not doing anything be that they spent that time killing the holds that refused to submit to Hashut) and that the disposessed are going to be kept in cities as a major presence alongside the two other factions of khazalid duardin, is just pure cope to avoid thinking too hard about how dumb the idea is. If this is real cities are going to lose disposessed, whether literally in lore they decided to abandon them to join the soup or they’re just quietly downplayed and GW pretends they’re not there and more populous than the new guys, and the khazalid holds are going to ape their aesthetic to just be dwarf holds 2, with fyreslayers shifted to lose a lot of their uniqueness in service of being a subfaction of the army.>>96897169I would give less of a shit about it if it didn’t also often involve shooting bits of aos’ uniqueness in the back of the head to do it. Often more just in a “fuck you if you remember this concept/faction from last edition, we’re not doing that anymore” sort of way that I find baffling, given a pretty sizeable amount of the people who play this game picked it up over the last two of them.
>>96897212don't repeat retarded memes
>>96897208The Grombrindal book has a Fyreslayer who has abandoned Grimnir and Ur Gold. He's amongst Dispossessed though
>>96897202Man I wish the entire faction was more like the soulrender, both the normal one and the underworld one are kino
>>96897223>0-1 per 1,000 pts
I’m honestly more astonished by fucking literally every faction having access to dragons than the steam tanks retarded origins. Well besides lizardmen and greenskins, but I guess they got those in Aos now.
>>96897233how many do you think you could field back in the day?
>>96897233It’s the equivalent of grabbing Arkhan and nagash in the same list.
>>96897215I guess we'll see.>>96897216Warhammer Quest minis are not always representative of future model releases.
The one thing I will say about the Fyreslayer/Dispossessed situation is that it's truly beyond annoying that this is the one thing, since the beginning of the edition almost that all the rumormongers are only addressing in a roundabout way even while they're dropping like specific new unit/model lists for every other fucking release for the entire edition. I hope they get revealed soon, if only so we can talk about what the update actually is instead of a thousand theorized takes.
>>96897252I just hope they get a gameplay identity more than anything.
>>96897176Honestly everything listed there other than the phoenicium falling is a dogshit thing that makes the world less fleshed out and feel a lot more obviously corporately dictated. The phoenicium at least had some buildup and then a cool sendoff that wrote it out in a fun way, then handed chaos a cool location, in the same way har kuron/anvilgard did.A bunch of shit turning on a dime and vanishing for corpo reasons, souping of disparate factions to relaunch them with no real narrative reason, and the fucking over of cities’ metropolitan diverse cultures thing to appease a nonexistent audience of mudcore enjoyers, it’s all lame and just takes away from the worldbuilding that they spent ten years putting there, rather than adding to it. Same with blowing up random cities for shock value, what’s the point when they’re cool ideas that have tidbits about them thatve been built up over the years, but never been actually directly focused on? What good comes out of “oh no!! Hallowheart is gone and now the map is emptied than ever, and CoS lost it’s weird flying pagoda city of wizards!! Time to focus on hammerhal aqysha again”?
>Knight of Shrouds
>>96897252We got pretty explicit rumors about this situation by now, maybe you're just in denial.
>>96897272he's so cute bros
>>96897298He is pretty cool. Really hope they expand on the faction the way I want it to so I can justify picking up some ghosts.
>>96897283>We got pretty explicit rumors about this situation by nowNot really. We got supposed list of Fyreslayer models staying, though we still don't know if, for example Vulkites are actually being squatted or just refreshed or replaced. We got a rumor from a different guy about a Grimnir Golem (With Boole later confirming golems but not necessarily that specific type of golem) and a Battering Ram with Slayers, and we know the update will be at least 9 kits and mostly focused on the Nu-Dispossessed side. Even taking everything altogether we don't know shit, really.
I wonder what the crossover looks like between people who lament Cities of Sigmar "losing their metropolitan flavor and multifarious citizenry and military" and people who think all non-whites should be removed from USA/England/Swedenpoland
>>96897328zero crossover
>We’re not even halfway through, either. For Warhammer Age of Sigmar, there are pages of coverage for the most exciting of all war machines – chariots – and rules for running your Wasteland Death Race, which has you build your own rig, skill up a racer, and take to the race track to prove your skill.>There’s also a new faction of duardin raging about the Mortal Realms, which we’re sure Grombrindal has some choice words about. The Helsmiths of Hashut are the latest Chaos army, and a hefty design notes article goes into detail on the whole range of duardin and their infernal war machines – the perfect complement to our round table series. You can also learn how to paint your own Zharrdron with the help of a Paint Splatter article.Design notes might be fun.
>>96897341the warcom design notes were pretty cool so yeah this might be interesting. If anybody here is picking up the WD be sure to share
Total wolf Death.TOTAL WOLF DEATH.Kill Wolves. Behead Wolves. Roundhouse kick a wolf into the concrete. Slam dunk a wolf into the trashcan. Crucify filthy Wolves. Defecate in a Wolves food. Launch Wolves into the sun. Stir fry Wolves in a wok. Toss Wolves into active volcanoes. Urinate into a Wolves den. Judo throw Wolves into a wood chipper. Twist Wolves heads off. Report Wolves to the Wizards’ Council. Karate chop Wolves in half. Curb stomp pregnant Wolves. Trap Wolves in quicksand. Crush Wolves in a aracharocks fangs. Liquefy Wolves in a vat of acid. Eat Wolves. Dissect Wolves. Exterminate Wolves in the gas chamber. Stomp wolf skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate Wolves in the oven. Lobotomize Wolves. Mandatory abortions for Wolves. Grind Wolves fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown Wolves in fried chicken grease. Vaporize Wolves with shroom magic. Kick old Wolves down the stairs. Feed Wolves to squigs. Slice corpos with a sickle.Shoot wolves and dump them in filthy ditches. Run over wolves with a mangler squig.Drink a wolves blood. Beat wolves to death with dildos. Put rocks in wolves stomach. Break wolves on the wheel. Bury wolves alive. Shrink wolves with shrink magic and throw them into anthills. Pull off wolf claws with pliers. Hit wolves in the testicles with a sledgehammer. Drown wolves in their own urine. Hang wolves by their own entrails. Throw napalm into wolf daycares.
I tried out a verdigris tutorial YouTube recommended me today. It’s hard doing big drybrush techniques that are meant for statues when this bell is so tiny in comparison. Is it okay?
>>96897368Sure it looks good.
>>96897368The back side is a little bit rougher
yeah, I think im picking up the new vallejo true metallic set. Here's hoping I dont get burned on it, gonna use em on my juggernauts hopefully. Also need to find some nice brushes in the meanwhile.
>>96897357If Stabbas get a new kit with some fur cloaks it'll make it even more jarring
is it true that trench crusade killed AoS? I've been hearing nothing but Gitmob, Helsmiths, etc flopped
>>96897402What? No. The digimon tcg? Now that’s a different story. Trendy crusade just stole all of 40ks shares though.
>>96897402I know this is bait but the overlap between trench crusade and aos has got to be pretty minimal no? It's very clearly going after 40k's audience
>>96897357I’m still waiting for faggots to explain how that release was in any way aesthetically similar to the rest of the gloomspite range other than ‘has goblins’
>>96897341>There are also a bunch of inserts, including a board overlay and story card for Talisman,the board game?wierd
>>96897341How many non-gitmob chariots do we even have?
>>96897464...quite a bit? night haunt stormcastcities, arguably 2/3slaves slaanesh (if we count heros)
>>96897439Feels like it was too good looking so management went to release it for AoS instead of TOW.
>>96897328In what world would people who want elves and dwarves in cities also be the ones mad about nucos having black women in it? Is mudcore now woke, and high fantasy shit chud? What are we doing here
>>96896841If you enjoy at least the game itself or the models then what's the problem? You don't have to love everything about it, it's totally fine to have your own opinions and preferences.It would be worse if you're not into the game at all. Then you're kinda wasting your own time on a hobby that you seem to dislike. Maybe try to move on and test something new, it might bring you more joy.
>>96891115>The Abraxia novel has Swifthawk in itWe are so back. Bring them home
>>96897464off the top of my head:black coach sort ofstormcast stormstrike onechaos (dual kit)dark elf (dual kit)slaaneshslaanesh glutos sort ofcouple of tzeentch screamer onesmost are whfb holdovers though
>>96897439It's fairly in line with the existing Rippa Snarlfng model (other than 5+ year of difference in face sculpting tech) and the newer Snarlfang riders
>>96897510Really? In what chapter?
>>96897439>"t-they like howl to the moon"Not even the goblins are similar, unfortunately I don't have the goblinoid skull theory picture anymore. GSG are probably the best army in the game and one important part of that is their visual and thematical cohesion that were already present in fantasy.Age of sigmar took those traits and enhanced them with new units, the giant was replaced with the much more fitting dankhold troggoth that fills the niche of big beefy beatstick, sneaky snufflers give thematic buff that fit the bad moon fluff etc.Spiderfang goblins are the only thing that clashed a bit with the rest of the range but everyone was expecting them to be updated into moonclan goblins or something more fitting.Wolves just don't fit into the army visually, them using sun energy to "kill" the sun is also garbage when put together with gitz and that the wolves were meant to replace spiders having poison bites and all is just a middle finger at that point.
>>96897513>>96897477if you're counting Black Coach you might as well count Leviadon
>>96897525come on now, it has the warmachine keyword
>>96897439Yeah, Gitmob will be retconned again back to a bad moon antagonistic army eventually. If they had mushrooms, bad moon iconography and maybe a desert troggoth hero/unit with Snarlfang minions of just pelt decorations with evil sun iconography they'd blend together but currently it's clearly two different armies
>>96897516They have their own little scene in Chapter 3, but they’re mentioned again in chapter 6 where it’s explained they’ve been present in every group of geurilla that’s been hunted down outside of blackpyre
>GW doesn't update their setting bible save to append stuff (if they aren't still just using the fan wiki) grim
>>96897514The rippa snarlfang models didnt even look like they were part of gloomspite
>>96897544Unironically that’s been the case for tow. I still laugh thinking about how they used a fanmade map.
>>96897553for the lord of the lance novel? holy kek
>>96897548I find it funny how the underworld warband also looks like a different goblin species than the rest of gitmob.
>>96897544Dude half the GW staff are marinfags who don't even remember xenos exist in 40k, you expect them to remember greenskin character plotlines?
You are inserting your dudes into wiki pages so they become canon, right?
>>96897561No no no, they had an interactive map or something online for tow, and it took them a while to realize they copy and pasted some random dudes fanmade map. There was also general issues with it like it retconning or not in line with the history of the map as to how it’s supposed to be later on in the setting but that’s another issue. >>96897570I expect them to remember elves considering they have a hard on for them.
>>96897522>the wolves were meant to replace spiders having poison bitesThis mostly annoys me because they're sculpted like normal wolves. If this is a special breed of wolf that has special venom bites that sets them apart from regular non-venomous wolves I'd like for that to somehow be illustrated by the sculpt.
>>96897577>>96897581both actually
>>96897585it's not like komodo dragons or snakes leak venom drooling all the time?
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/31gjh1fb/pledge-yourself-to-hashut-for-a-free-miniature-and-snag-a-red-gobbo-coin/Free Chorf
>>96897577Dude half the minor CoS only exist because i made them up.You think Edessa was real?
>>96897577>>96897587Didn't they backtrack this?Also why does the wiki have fanmade stuff on it lol
>>96897599I can’t turn this into a suitable war trophy.
Embernerth in BL soon
>>96897605>Didn't they backtrack this?They did but it’s funny it took so long and that it even happened in the first place >why does the wiki have fanmade stuff Well I mean it’s a wiki.
>>96897605>Also why does the wiki have fanmade stuff on it lolBecause it's a fanmade wiki
>>96897599My store always says newbies only and they pick everything out for you. Bunch of wankers
>>96897605How can they backtrack it? They don't even touch BL epubs
Yes, the Root Kings valiantly defended Hammerhal in Dawnbringers IV Yes, the very same Root Kings who assisted Emergard as Skaven overran itThere are rumours Root Kings dwell in the Spitewood too but some say that's hearsay from the Swifthawk Agents of Living City
>>96897614If we're talking about minor lore factions then root kings would be the better faction.In general root kings would fit much better with sylvaneth and should have been the new release. Just imagine druid dwarfs that build under great trees and forests and protect them from stuff that damages nature from underground like skaven and gitz while the tree spirits protect it from above.
>>96895712> The dirty leafLmao get fucked leaf
>>96897652You know what you must do
>>96897652Root kings are not a faction, they're literally just dispossessed that live alongside sylvaneth.
>>96897577>Man, I hate lore youtubers who just read the wiki you have to get your facts from the actual sources >Meanwhile the writers
>>96897652>elves and dwarves I know the dwarves pledged themselves to the ever queen but I’m still not feeling this at all. I’d sooner see the order of the furrow folded into them.
>>96897599Nice, too bad my local GW store is being run by some actual basedjak looking faggot who forces you to use crappy GW tools to assemble it in the store
>>96897652god that would own so much. Maybe the only thing that could get me into dwarfs
>>96897670the Sylvaneth are barely elfs
>>96897691“Barely” is the key point.
>>96897614literally who?
I didn't buy Dispossessed to run in Ironbark I didn't buy Dispossessed to run in Living City with Sylvaneth I didn't buy Dispossessed to use the RoR in Sylvaneth I'm not buying Dispossessed But Root Kings?!
>>96897658It would be interesting to see what kurnothi has for units and how you can proxy them with dwarfs >>96897664>Root kings are not a faction, they're literally just dispossessed that live alongside sylvanethAnd kruleboyz always existed and just didn't leave their swamps, we can easily retcon them >>96897670It's much more unique, be it kurnothi that basically just recreate old wood elves now or fyreslayers that get folded with dispossessed, both is just regressing into fantasy armies again.
>>96897652No fucking new factions No fucking new subfactionsUntil all the existing ones aren’t 1 infantry, 1 cavalry and 1 monster unit
>>96897715>It's much more uniqueWhat does it add philosophically? >regressing into fantasy armies Id call them more of an alternative take on them. Which is arguably a core root of what they are.
>>96897733I want them as the "meat" expansion of sylvaneth instead of kurnothi.But yeah I agree we need to flesh out the existing stuff more.>>96897738I just find it redundant to make a new setting just to recreate what was before with minor changes.
>>96896383> 400+ playing in AoS events over the weekend > Literally zero TOW events playedHmmmmmmmm
>>96897777>I just find it redundant to make a new setting just to recreate what was before with minor changes.And adding new shit like gitmob isn’t the way to go. You’d manage to convince me by having a subfaction that are “followers of the everqueen” and include stuff like root kings, order of the furrow and the wanderers altogether rather than saying it’s an all or nothing thing. Where it displays the influence Ariel has on her realm and actually shows depicts her as a divine figure.
>>96897820I was boycotting the event because they banned the square based comp pack
>>96897830>You’d manage to convince me by having a subfaction that are “followers of the everqueen” and include stuff like root kings, order of the furrow and the wanderers altogether rather than saying it’s an all or nothing thing. Where it displays the influence Ariel has on her realm and actually shows depicts her as a divine figure.Honestly I would be alright with that as a compromise because its something unique and not just wood elves but with hooves
>>96897850>bannedIsn’t it just passively banned for not being a GW product?
>>96897850I'm sorry you are Br*Tish (the only country of cucks banning the square based pack at this point)
>>96897905More people use it than don't at this point> BUT LE OFFICIAL WARHAMMER TOURNAMENTSno one cares
>>96897691>the Sylvaneth are barley elfsfixed that for you
>add furry elves to sylvaneth>no, add hippie dwarfs to sylvanethWhy do people keep blurting out awful expansion ideas for this army?
>>96897918Stfu bro I use it, it’s just GWs dumbass policy that original content isn’t used at their events
>>96897944the furry elfs are coming, and thank god for itRoot Kings are just a very cool and unique thing in the lore. People are pitching them as a Sylvaneth subfaction because asking for a fourth full Duardin Battletome seems like a but much
>>96897944Idk. People just generally keep blurting out random suggestions for an army they have no interest in. I can tell you one thing i do want to see in the army, and one thing I don’t. >do actual god fearing mortals>dont More fucking bugs. I will avoid these kits besides the flute man and the big booby foot lord.
>>96897944>t. Bastion hater
>>96897956No one is pitching shit they're an irrelevant josh reynolds black library invention GW doesn't even know exists
>>96897967Wrong author.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/duiizeuv/inara-sion-the-cleansing-blade-emerges-in-warhammer-quest-darkwater/
>>96897982Of course, the obligatory black woman
>>96897982Wait, she's an elf?
>>96897982She’s pretty
>>96897985Anon...
>>96897982>faceruined itshame
>>96897982I’ll be painting her as a blonde white woman thanks
>>96897985that's clearly a jeetess
>>96897988no
>>96897982her face is weird but not in the usual gw femface weird. Still cute though, I like the vial
>>96897997See I don't see why more anon's just don't do that. It's like endless bitching instead of "Oh I'll just paint it a different color"
>>96897982This model is ALMOST good
>>96897993not as much as the other Female model in this quest box
anyone here have the spinny gif of the skullgrinder? I just picked up one and need to honor him.
>Her sword is not forged of metal; rather, it is a conjuration of living liquid, able to whip and lash her enemies from afar. Wish they’d tease how the games gonna be played already.
>>96898024We're probably gonna get the lions share during the big reveal show with: "HERE'S THE REST OF THE HEROES AND VILLAINS!" HERE'S THE STORY! Then a small 2 paragraph article showing pictures of the cards but you can only really read 1 or 2 and they might just bring up that there's no board it's the little book now.
>>96897982The face is a little iffy but I'm going to blame that on GW's house style.I like her.
>>96898024Dude they weren't even going to reveal the heroes now, it was all going to come out this weekend. They started revealing the heroes only because of the potato pic leak
>>96897965>>dont>More fucking bugs.What the actual hell is wrong with you?
>>96898044You haven’t assembled anything sylvaneth related fuck you.
>>96898024I was about to comment that line too, really isn't represented on the model at all is it
>>96898004She'd look better with closed mouth
>>96897982I knew her model would be the coolest and most fantastical one and that everyone else was a big stupid doodoo head for not voting for her to be revealed first of all. I feel vindicated.
>>96898051Nah this is the first time where an open mouth is good. It’s just the eyes are painted wrong.
>>96898048>not representedLook at the sword again.
>>96898063She's my favourite so far too. Based and amphora-pilled.
>>96898070I think anon means on the model, the paintjob is in fact implying as such! (I'd bet they probably had to make it ranged for game balance but had the model ready beforehand)
>>96898063she's definitely going to be the most expensive on the secondary market. Which is annoying, because so far she's the only one I want.
>>96897988Hard to say. Long lived but I'd imagine a mage would be. Worships Alarielle but so do some humans. The ears look pointed but I can't see them for sure
>>96897982GW Face Syndrome aside, definitely my favorite so far.
>>96898024>painter couldn’t even paint the sword to represent this
>>96897982lollmao
MOAR BAREFOOT WOMEN!
>>96898096But the sword is clearly made of water in the part where it still touches the swirl
>>96898105She cute
>>96898018unfortunately it doesn't suit her role and pose
>>96897982
>>96897982feeta
>>96897982>barefoot in a FLOODED AbbeyBitch is begging for trench foot
>>96898106>>96898126Somebody on the sculpting team definitely has a thing for feet right?
>>96897982It's not mirror shatteringly ugly so there's that. The hair and robe actually look nice so if someone did a better paint job on the face it might actually be a good model.
>>96898105I can see the resemblance
>>96898140She’s a water wizard, if she can’t handle walking through water she’s a bad water wizard.
>>96898105>>96898145bonus
>>96898145That’s what I saw too, lmao.
>>96898154should I know who this is...?
>>96898166unc momentAnd Im 32 saying this
>>96898105different women
>>96898166le response nigger reaction gif
>>96897982>Indian Woman.>Cleanses water.I get this is fantasy but do I have to suspend my disbelief this much?
>>96898105>>96898145Alright fuck it, 5 min shitty edit for the sake of it
>>96898187Indians don't exist in AoSIndians aren't the only brown-skinned ppl on EarthChristian Indian areas are extremely clean
>>96898152Nurgle water isn't actually water
>>96898188
>>96898187She's from Goa
>>96898196Tahlia is Indian? The UK is full of them
>>96898172Man, I'm 30 I have no fuckin clue.
>>96898206>no saar, the part I'm from is niceyou can pick a random point in any part of india and find trash, it's undefeated.
>>96898105>It's ghyrover
>>96898187I was under the impression she was just like, a swarthy italian lady
>>96897982Lets gooooo. Win win win. She is cute. Someone have the link to the youtube video?? I cant see it for some reason.
>>96898294The hair screams Greek to me.
>>96898299I'll be honest anon, it's ALL greek to me
>Aelves and Duardin in Darkwater worshipping Sigmar and fighting alongside men >Aelves and Duardin squatted from CoS huh
>>96898047nta, but I have an entire army of Sylvaneth and I'm super hyped for Kurnothi.
>>96898316the lady of the loo isn't an elf
>>96898298https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLR-iz4J0JAnot as revealing as some of the other vids. Also maybe it's the lighting but the paintjob looks chopped as fuck in the vid lmao
>>96898332She's centuries old
>>96898344isn't aqua ghyranis supposed to extend your lifespan?
>>96898338Thank you. And yeah, not so revealing like the others (no extra models and not turn around view)
>>96898316Don’t forget GW dropped the Prince Maesa book about Wanderers right as they axed them from the game.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/3ew2q4hq/join-us-later-this-week-for-the-world-championships-of-warhammer-preview-live-2025/
>>96898419the buget for these things seem to have gone up now they can do location shootinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU1omfcF_2Malso confirms the 500 worlds leaks for 40k
>>96898344that's what you get when you're a life water wizard
>>96898419>we got age of sigmar, we got 40k, we got big heresy, we got small heresy, we got old world, we got it allwarcry and underworlds aren't there
>>96898436What’re those again?
>>96898419Nurgle and Cities of Sigmar chests, and Darkwater box. We are so on. AoS keeps winning.
>>96898436Neither is Kill Team or Bloodbowl
>>96898449Kill team probably would have had a reveal but half the 2026 plans for that game were leaked months ago
>Aelf in Wildercorps Hunters >Aelf mage in Darkwater worshipping both Sigmar and Alarielle The copium. GW are an English company which means they're racist. Ogors are lower class northerner slaves not an emblem of racial cooperation. Duardin OUTAelves OUT The Free Cities don't have enough room for you refugees
>>96898449Nothing to reveal for Kill team since the next 6 months of releases got leaked.
>>96898462>>Aelf mage in DarkwaterIs she an aelf? I can't get a good look at her ears.
>>96898475Looks pointy on the model
>>96898449those two got reveals and releases very recently
>>96898462>>Aelf in Wildercorps Hunters>>Aelf mage in DarkwaterNeither of those are elves>>96898501You're looking at the hair blocking the view to the rest of the ear
>>96898536Yes, that's the point of the post?
>>96898528So did Underworlds yet you brought it up
>Manticore Man spontaneously combusts sometimes>Water Lady is a water bender using a sword made of water>dorf is literally just a dorf>renegade saint is actually not a renegade saintMr. Manticore could have incorporated some more "shit's on fire yo" elements in his design but at least works fine as an archknight proxy. He gets a passing grade. Unfortunately that's just 2/4 in the initial lineup.
>>96898561Didn't the new box just release like, a couple weeks ago with the chorfs?
>>96898561>So did UnderworldsNo, the last underworlds reveal was with the other big summer reveal show. There has been nothing for it since, unlike blood bowl and kill team, who got recent reveals.
>>96898609You said and releases. UW box released in October
>>96898577Yes. It's quite likely there will be no more UW bands until next year.
>>96898614That's fine, I'm honestly still bitter about underworlds.
>>96898613I said reveals and releasesthe shit released in october was revealed far backthere's been nothing new since, unlike kill team and blood bowl
>>96898563If they wanted to go full freakshit they should've made the knights manticore be a little brazier. Put a fucking flamethrower in the shield or something. That being said I'm fine with these 4 being a little bit more subdued.
>>96895697Soon
>>96898661>If they wanted to go full freakshit they should've made the knights manticore be a little brazierAlternatively they could've sculpted some flames in the joints of his armor or some shards of the realmstone sticking out. Haters will say CoS is Dragon Age shit in any case and ripping off the Red Templars isn't gonna change that.
>>96898563I do like the idea that each of these incredibly basic heroes have some whacky high fantasy shit going on underneath the surface, but the dorf does debunk that potential by being just a dorf
>>96898745He's got runes on his throwing axes.Runes can get silly.
