RUMORED! Edition>/40kg/ Community Linkhttps://rentry.org/40k-General>Community Links:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/https://www.unitcrunch.comhttps://www.newrecruit.euhttps://wahapedia.ru>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh>Pre 10th Torrent:Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5>10th Edition Rules:https://gofile<dot>io/d/9LvQTLhttps://mega<dot>nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A>How to make wargames terrain:https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV>Secret Santa:https://docs.google.com/document/d/15jNMk0oCTOWQkXxVetQqP-_mrNLjzggRR9wnmwkPMkM/>Previous thread:>>96893120>Thread question:What's a model most people consider ugly but is underrated in your opinion?
someone else start the thread with the rumor pic. Im too lazy to do it.Like I said in the other thread, either iron warriors get dedicated traitor guard or I don't give a fuck about this codex.
>>96896743>TQI love my ballsack boys.
>source: Boole on the grand alliance forum
Let Chaos idols take this thread!
Why don't we just recycle the other thread at this point? Last one was at page 8 for two hours so it got like 60 posts, no point in splitting
>>96896767Don't give the shitty idols sabotage thread the time of day. Report and ignore.
>>96896759you dont belong to a chaos cult, or even a religious cult, you belong to a pathetic simp FINDOM cult where you pine for a cartoon and waste your sperm in your hand
Alright, calling it here.
>>96896759>>96896767fuck off
>>96896799MUCH BETTER, good job anon.
>>96896758If oblits get redone what's going to happen to the venomcrawler then?is this box staying alongside the iron warriors obliterators?is this box disappearing, with the crawler getting a new kit for it?is this box disappearing and the venomcrawler with it forever?
>>96896806>is this box disappearing and the venomcrawler with it forever?YesTOTAL NIDDER SUPREMACY
>>96896800You should them.
>>96896743>What's a model most people consider ugly but is underrated in your opinion?I don't have one, I should pick one up some day though>>96896755I have a few oblits and don't hate them, but man I'd like them more if the thighs and feet were armored too
>$75 for 5 fucking minisHoly fuck the new deathwatch kt is overpriced to hell. >>96896828I wish the kytann got made into plastic instead.
>>96896838They're not even the most expensive kill team. Pretty sure that's Mandrakes at $80 but they at least come with 10 in a box.Is this the first time they cut the team in half from the launch box?
>>96896838Character models are basically fucking $50 now. For one infantry model. I'm glad all of my armies are largely complete because I can't imagine buying everything new in the current year.
>>96896889>>96896838Cheaper in the UK, so thank trump tariffs for that
>>96896838>I wish the kytann got made into plastic instead.You can easily drop the lord of skull's torso on top of the chaos knights' legs and viceversa, the knight's torso on the los's treads
>>96896758OK. Cool.But when are World Eaters getting a unit of dudes on juggernauts?
>>96896931never.
>>96896931they aren'tinstead they'll get juggercentaurs the top half is bloodletters with chainsaw hands
Do Horus Heresy MKIII Tactical Marine parts fit unto 40k Chaos Marines parts?
>>96896758>that crappy melee unit that could only move 4" a turn is coming back and updated by the same monkey that gave us the shitty oblitsNot sure how to feel about this at all bros
>>96896755ugly ass motherfuckers (I own 2)
>TQ
Why did they demote Abaddon from Warmaster of Chaos to Warmaster of the Imperium Nihilus?
>>96896743>What's a model most people consider ugly but is underrated in your opinion?
>>96897005>demotion when chaos was previously contained to the eye of terrorhe just declared himself ruler of half of the Imperium.
>>96897005because he's another chaosfag who hates chaos because the writer has daddy issues
>>96896799Absolute, unfiltered kino.Cant wait for the Nurgle and Slaanesh ones
>>96897005>Archaon started out as Lord of the End Times>got promoted to Exalted Grand Marshal of the ApocalypseHe's been doing well for himself.
>>96897006That 3rd ed kit looks more 2nd ed than most 2nd ed kits.
>>96896799hell yeah, dark script
I broke down and ordered some third party heads. Anybody have any experience with using third party bits? Is it worth it?
>>96897063>Exalted Grand MarshalI wonder who came up with the name in the setting.
>>96897113>I broke down dude.
As I understand it the chaos gods swore to not make any undivided princes after belakor... what god does peter turbo, lorgar and potentially omegon belong to??
he can't keep getting away with his crimes and then taunting the victims on the scene of the massacre
>Shorter and smaller than humans>Slower reflexes, not good in melee>Bad eyesight with poor depth perception>Birth rate is no faster than humans>No more intelligent than regular humans>Dull souls with no psyker potential, but not blanks either>Primary enemy in the setting can't be reasoned with, wants to exterminate them, and has a 40,000 year head startWhy does God hate them so much?
>>96897124They're probably each favored by at least two gods but not all four gods. There's a gradient between being one God's chosen and all of their chosen.
>>96897113>broke down
>>96897124Chaos itself
>>96897124Hashut, the Dark King and Necoho respectively.
>>96897131Sometimes it takes recognition of personal weakness to see the value in communal strength.
>>96897124low hanging fruits to get around that limitation, assuming it doesn't simply get ignored (as it actually should), is to make perturabo reach demonhood "artificially", by making a pact with vashtorr, amassing upgrades and growing the obliterator virus until he's effectively immortal like a demon, but not technically a demon prince, while for lorgar it would be easy to have him ascend to immortality by proxy, by hosting multiple greater demons of all the gods.the most entertaining thing you can do with alpharius is to do nothing with alpharius and instead grow the legion.
>>96897124They lied lolthey’re CHAOS gods
>>96897127>borough of rushcliffeAh, he lives in a posh town around Nottingham not in Nottingham itself
>>96896973Yes
>>96897119>>96897139I didn't have any other option. There was no way around it. I had to get the third party heads
>>96897131Until they obtained their plot armour, they represented the naive ignorance of a race newly arrived in a Lovecraftian universe.
>>96897160Me in the back
>>96897131Don’t forget>A lifespan half of that of humans
>>96897156How big is his cock?
>>96897168tragically I think she's cis.
>>96897160
>>96897170>cisThe confederacy of independent systems?
>>96897172Sorry that reallity upsets you, Zoomfren.
>>96897174Roger roger.
>>96897160The Tau honestly got fucked over by their biology way more than the Necrontyr ever did.
>>96897204tau don't live a tumors riddled life
>>96897204Don't need biology when *checks notes* the Votann give you all your cool shit for reasons?
>can make machines and weapons that destroy stars and planets>still haven't found the cure to cancerThe necrontyr were silly
>>96897209Gay space communism is the worst form of cancer.
>>96897218Don't worry, they still have millions of sleeping tombworlds that definitely haven't been corrupted :')
>>96897218Did they make them or was that knowledge gifted to them by the CTan?
>>96897209No but they still live half as long as humans do, you might as well have tumors when 40 is considered a ripe old age.
>>96897230I just think a species plagued by their biology would focus their research on biology rather than physics. It makes no sense.
>>96897218Necrontyr had little to no real breakthrough into psychic and soul sciences, it's possible that their sickness was one of their souls.
>>96897230"if" and "when" but never "is"
>>96897235They fought the old ones once before they met the C'tan so it's safe to say they had atleast some advanced tech.
>>96897160>lovecraftian universeAside from GSC and shit like Chaos pacts, what's lorecraftian about the setting?
>>96897160>Lovecraftianits not lovecraftian in the slightest
>>96897263There being shit orders of magnitude far larger, older and weirder than you.So pretty much everything is lovecraftian to the tau, considering the scales of the setting.Necrons technically fit well with the more traditional definition of lovecraftian too, oldcrons would fit more, but newcrons still do.
>>96897274A universe full of ancient unknowable monstrous gods is a bit Lovecraftian
>>96897274People don't know what that genre even means anymore and just use it to refer to all evil space gods. And no one knows Moorcock anymore these days anyway.
>>96897277Fair enough
>>96897263C'tan and the old necrons were, and I guess the tyranids are. The Warp could be to someone who has no clue what it is or how it works. The webway and Commorragh and how deldar society function are pretty lovecraftian, a highly technologically developed alien race that harvest humans, like how the Great Race of Yith hijack the bodies of whole species through time and space to escape their own doom, dooming the minds of the whole species the switched into alien bodies before dying horribly
wip update ! sub-assembly on guilliman is going along nicely, im almost done painting him completely before i move on to gluing his model together.....im planning a custom base for him instead of his usual mound of junk that is hell to paintalso related i picked up some fairly cheap terrain yesterday that fits the basing theme i have with my army and plan on quick dry brush painting this week as well. how dis yalls hobby projects coming along this past weekend ?
>>96897278>unknowableDaemons are plenty knowable because they are made out of largely human thoughts & emotions and have often pretty concrete agendas, aspirations & goals.They're freudian + satanic/faustian, not lovecraftian.
>>96897263The race that composes basically 99% of the sapient organisms of the setting is lead by a nascent future Chaos god that will bring ruin and oblivion to all of reality once he awakes…and that species is happy about that because it means that you and your entire species (along with every other species that isn’t them) will be killed to the last infant
>>96897287You're a fucking mad man and I wish you luck with that.
>>96897289>Daemons are plenty knowableSure thing buddy. See how far that gets you
LGS is trying to make me a pariahwould ask "armies for this feel" but I already play necrons and own 10 pariahs
>>96897294>The race that composes basically 99% of the sapient organisms of the settingYou're delulu if you think Humans outnumber Nids/Orks/Crons (in that order).
>>96897302I mean, why? Did you sperg and say something weird/chuddy?
>>96897303Dark Eldar greatly outnumber humans and there's less of them than craftworlders according to GW somehow.
40k should retvrn to being radically cool and silly again. Saturated colours everywhere, conan the barbarian-esque gigachads killing each other with comically large pistols and enormous swords, halfnaked women with big boobies and orks with with mohawks and sunglasses. All of it.
>>96897294>The race that composes basically 99% of the sapient organisms of the settingwrong off the bat, men aren't more numerous than the rest of aliens, nor they're more numerous than all individual alien races, orks for example are likely more numerous and far more widespread, missing galactic dominion due to a lack of organisation. men are just the current dominant empire of the galaxy, with one million worlds, in a galaxy of 250 billions stars that they have barely explored in real depths.
why does no one try out tmm? this seems radical.
>>96896755Man I thought these guys looked absolutely radical in DoW. Sadly their bi-decade refresh fell victim to the sculptor/ art director that has been incorporating their diaper and leg-warmer fetish into recent CSM.
>>96897295madman for picking up terrain or painting ? guilliman is annoyingly difficult to paint when he is assembled because of all the designs on his armour.....its acrually 10 times easier to paint him on the sprue even if its more work in the end
>>96897308i'm an asshole, I know it and accept itthey're just also assholes who don't want to admit they're lazy fucks who formed a clique, sweat, and play "rules as written" unless its a rule they dont like (i.e 10vp painting rule) and bitch if you bring up that they should paint their modelsof course they don't tell me i'm an asshole or criticise me, it's all done behind my backtheres been a mention of a new guy wanting to play from one of the LGS staff, i've offered to help and give that guy a game and get hit with "uhhhh he hasnt responded to my last message yet!" with the staff member being clearly hesitant to say anything and obviously not going to do what I suggested of "just message the guy anyway, you dont ask, you dont get", and I know that staff member never lies as he could have just made some BS about this supposed new player being unavaliable tuesday and i'd be none the wiser
>>96897310This is a pattently absurd claim. We know Commoragh only has a population a hundred times that of a hive city and there are a million give cities.
>>96897156damn that boy is cute
>>96896743>What's a model most people consider ugly but is underrated in your opinion?Inquisitor Coteaz got shit on for being boring, but I actually love a model that's not dripping with needless details. My only problem with it is his hairdo looks unfinished/forgotten. Give me like 10% texture at least, please.
>>96897337that anon's post is retarded but not every planet in the imperium is a hive city, probably less than half
>>96897337>We know Commoragh only has a population a hundred times that of a hive city Where do we get told that? I remember Commorragh being described as >>Commorragh is no mere metropolis, for it is to the largest Imperial Hives as a souring mountain is to a mound of Termites.A mountain, let alone a soaring mountain like the ones in Europe and America and Asia (unlike our aussie mountains) are far far far bigger than a hundred times bigger than a mole hill. There are at the very very least hundreds of trillions of Dark eldar, but GW doesnt care for numbers but theres a lot of them
>>96897303>>96897314Humanity has something all those species don’t though, we are the chosen ones of the setting, anointed by Chaos to bring ruin and oblivion to all of reality.
>>96897347Fuck off anon I never said I agree with it only that theres more eldar than most people think. More craftworlders than deldar is dumb personally
>lore fags having an autism fight episode 2,549
>>96897387Where do you think you are?
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>96896743I love paragon warsuitsI love dreadknightsI love centurionsBaby carriers are an essential pillar of 40k design.
>>96897392blessed and based. what abt 'noughts ?
>>96897387THE RIDE NEVER ENDS
>>96897401mr bones pls i want off this ride
>>96897387You can start having another rules argument anytime you like. Shall we discuss terrain again for the billionth time?
>>96897406post models
>>96897363Why are you trying to math out color text? Commorragh is effectively endless, and unassailable (unless you purposefuly teleport a battlebarge into it to draw in other space marines to fuck shit up and kill most of your enemies. Then suddenly there's a comprehensible scale and one person can someone be considered to run the whole show)
>>96897412
>>96897415There are more Humans on Terra than DEldar in Commoragh. The city is big but largely empty outside of the core spires with lots of it overrun by invading forces.
Incoming special rules for playing 2nd, 3rd, and 4th edition marine armies as well as Tyranids, Dark Eldar, and Orks. Seems like White Dwarf is going to have some cool themed battle scenarios to evoke the old box sets.
>>96897422I do not understand horny proxies. Why send scantily clad sexy women to war where artillery, tanks, and giant monsters are prevalent?
>>96897426I respect that you believe that and it's good that we can never confirm one side or the other. However, if I manage to write for black library, I will very explicitly canonize Commorragh's Dark Eldar population to be equal to terra's population of humans+1, which is unfortunate for you.
>>96897426It just feels wrong for Terra by itself to have more people than a whole faction has individuals
>>96897432Cute, but at least 7 years late for me to care. I've got my own 2nd and 4th edition brew.
>>96897440Based as fuck anon
>>96897323If you don't plan to do any clean up of mould lines or sprue marks then I guess painting on the sprue makes sense. Easier to paint sections attached to sticks though imo.
Alright, quick mock idea for the next banner.
>>96897449Dark Eldar are NPCs.The Imperium are the main protagonists.
>>96897472Well yeah. NPCs are the most interesting part of an RPG anyway.
>>96897465I look forward to it.
>>9689747940k isn't an RPG you fucking WEEB
>>96897435I mean women in the battlefield are already a joke, might as well make them eye candy at this point.
>>96897462Painting on sprue is a misunderstood thing that was lifted from model tank building and inappropriately applied to mini painting. For components on tanks, typically the sprue gates and mold lines are on the sides where they'll be covered during assembly. You're supposed to scrape any mold lines that would be visible while the thing is still on the sprue, and any gates that are on visible parts are meant to be touched up before weathering. There's parts of GA vehicle kits, especially older ones like the rhino, where they were cast in a way to make painting the internal parts on sprue easy.>>96897323Painting infantry models on sprue is stone cold retarded, sorry. Subassemble, you ape.
>>96897465Its a Slaaneshi banner so I think you could get away with a bit more artsy graphic beast/monster fucking like the banners in pic related,
>>96897486But why make them eye candy when they're liable to get exploded/melted/eaten?
>>96897493Anon, we are already in the fantasy realm.
>>96897465YJK
>>96897483If you play as a protagonist, you are playing a role. Hence, it is a roleplaying game in your own analogy.
>>96897483I disagree with the general notion of NPC factions (because it's people treating 40k.like a larger narrative with a protagonist rather than a setting), but if I were refereeing a large narrative game, Dark Eldar raiders would be a good NPC threat. You should go read about how wargames were played in the 70's and 80's.
>>96897449To be fair a vast, vast, vast majority of people on Terra are uneducated, malnourished wastrels that would probably be incapable of holding most jobs today while Commoragh is full of schizophrenic superhuman genius assholes with the 2nd highest tech level in the setting holding themselves back by flaying each other alive. I have no doubt that Commoragh would beat Terra's ass in terms of relative power, population barely being a factor here, but Terra has an entire empire of a million worlds feeding it.
>>96897512Outside of Harlequins and Genestealer cults, every other faction in 40k are NPC, with all their named characters for your dudes to interact with.
>>96897005Abaddon was never the Warmastr of Chaos. Abaddon always has and always will reject Chaos.
>>96897523Abaddon rejecting Chaos on a philosophical level is purely semantics over him directly furthering the goals of Chaos and their mortal servants, even if he does have a super secret plan to betray them in the end.
>>96897310No. The Aeldari codexes say there are fewer Drukhari in the galaxy than there are Asuryani.
>>96897533Aeldari are coping liars.
>>96897533This, though it's probably likely due to the fact that Craftworld Eldar actually survive to see their first century while the Dark Eldar continually throw each other into the torment nexus so their population never grows.
>>96897530It's not a secret plan.The Chaos Gods are aware that Abaddon is going to betray them. That's why they refuse to allow him to win without forcing him to surrender their soul to them first.Hence, his alliance with Vashtorr. The Old Ones' fate-altering weapon that Vashtorr seeks will allow Abaddon to conquer the galaxy without the Chaos Gods.Then, after that, as implied by the 10th ED CSM codex, Abaddon will focus his vengeance on the Chaos Gods.
>>96897533That's what I said anon, I think there should be more deldar than humans, and GW claims theres more craftworlders than deldar somehow
>>96897551>I think there should be more deldar than humans, Terra possibly has more humans than all Aeldari factions combined.
>>96897493Anon. If your opponent has been exploding/melting/eating your models, you need to stand up for yourself.
>>96897550Sounds fair. I don't really like the direction but I get what the authors are going for, ADB discussed the perceived need for Chaos to have a main character and this is an extension of that.He has otherwise been assisting the supremacy of Chaos so far though, so both this and Abaddon being too prideful to see what he's doing might both be true, or at least the question between whether or not he can pull it off.
>>96897558Thats only because quadrillions of something is beyond insane, huge huge number well beyond our comprehension
>>96897558Terra is probably the most population dense planet in the entire setting, not counting Tyranid and Necron micro-organisms for obvious reasons, yeah. Though it has been shown to be completely incapable of maintaining even a large fraction of that without constant supplies from elsewhere so looking at its population in a vacuum is less useful than seeing that the Imperium is capable of giving it a disproportionately huge supply chain.
>>96897387I suppose your favored alternative is someone bringing up a named modelposter?
>>96897312Agreed
>>96897323What's the sauce of your picture? Reverse image search gives nothing.
>>96897312I'm more of a 4th edition kinda guy but I agree that the setting has mostly been taking itself too seriously. Like any fake grognard I will pretend it's the HH series that's to blame but really I just think it's a mixture of what the fans have been asking for and the setting losing its whimsy to us because we've been around for so long.Look up any of the sensationalist youtube shorts for 40k these days and it seems like the new influx of fans are interested in the whacky shit, it's just not the same whacky shit we had 20 years ago.
>>96897578Yea my favorite is the decal guy
>>96897550>i hate chaos and chaos gods>i hate chaos so much that i will infact help a chaos daemon so it becomes a 5th chaos god>surely this will NOT backfire horribly>totally i'm not the one here who's a puppet on stringsBlack Library and modern nu-lore just continues to make 40k lamer and gayer.
>>96897211And double fuck those retcons.
>>96897449reminder that ONE hive city on ONE imperial world has more humans in it than Tau on the Tau homeworld
>>96897550Their soul? Abaddons or the whole black legion? Im confused because you're mixing hims and thems with a plural group in the mix. Either way, Vashtorr is a fag idea.
>>96897578at least decalfaggot actually owns models unlike most of you lorefags
>>96897608One thing you neglected to mention. Vashtorr is lawful evil. It's not in his nature to lie or deceive. Their bargain is that Abaddon gets the weapon and activates it to conquer the galaxy, and Vashtorr, as the god of technology, will be empowered by its activation to the point of godhood. Both will get what they want.Currently, Be'lakor and Tzeentch are working to sabotage this plan, which implies that it could work.
>>96897628But can one kroot eat a hive world
>>96897629His soul. Typo.
>>96897211so are the LoV the ancestors to the men of stone or nah
>>96897465I think lateral silhouettes may be more striking and recognisable, but seeing your skills on the land raider, you should be able to pull that off too
>>96897597I mean modern editions lack the random shit of 3rd/4th like the "The Thing" scenarios or "make your own aliens and fight with them" rulesHaving a random plant mind controlling your dudes is fun or having your kids dinosaurs as random creatures in the jungle is also a fun scenario from time to time.
>>96897465>>96897641Why give slaanesh what's rightful thousand sons iconography?
>>96897628That's not true.Sa'cea has trillions of Tau living in it. The sept world of T'au is described as nearly as heavily populated.
>>96897636I now need a kroot guy fieri traveling with his entourage to distant battlefields in order to sample the greatest delicacies the galaxy has to offer
>>96897160me on the right
>>96897659"We're on Oredon VI, were the elusive kalaphi xenos had its last stand against some orks, I'm excited what we're going to find"
>>96897633>bro this demon said that he doesn't lie or deceive, literally>surely a demon would NEVER lie about its true nature to further its own goals>this totally will NOT backfireYeah, and advertizements don't lie either technically, but you still don't fucking trust them you dumb motherfuck.
>>96897628>>96897650You are both fools for trying to make sense of the meaningless number salad that is GW's sad attempt at fictional logistics
>>96897236The Calgar comic says that Ultramar (which is canonically the best area in the Imperium) has a lifespan of mid-30s.So generally, average humans across the Imperium live shorter spans than humans.The T'au have the advantage of maintaining their youth and vigor until the final years of their lives.
>>96897678It wasn't Vashtorr that said that he doesn't lie. His lore and GW said that he cannot and will not lie.Lies is disorder. VAshtorr is a daemon of Order.
>>96897683>The Calgar comicThe rape or calgar isn't canon
Hey sisters players i started collecting Sororitas with combat patrol and im thinking about getting this box. Is this amount of jetpack units all i will ever need in the army?
>>96897649What thousand sons iconography?
>>96897683I don't give a FUCK about marneus "equal attention second terminator model" calgar
>>96897694>His lore and GW said that he cannot lie.that's not what that passage is saying at all
>>96897683short spans than T'au*
>>96897717It literally says in the first line that it's not in his nature to lie and trick.
>>96897712the goats of chaos
>>96897726are you that dumb to not know that people do a lot of shit against their own natural inclinations when it suits them?
>>96897683>GW writer when needing to do a number with more than 2 digits>immediately shits the bedNecromunda ganger bred for war like stimmers with super short lifespans last like a decade while genetics freaks like goliath with shorten lifespans live around 40.This are the guys along with van saar that have absolutely fucked their life expectancy in Necromunda.
>>96897726>t. Vashtorr the Arkifane
>>96897740People, but not daemons.Can Khorne be peaceful?Can Tzeentch be static?Can Nurgle be clean?Can Slaanesh be moderate?
>>96897682Correct!Make up what sounds right for you and loop your friends in on it!You don't even need consensus since such a disagreement would be perfectly justifiable between characters within the setting. >>96897683The Calgar comic says your mom spreads it for cheese whip, I don't care about that grim derp garbage.
>>96896806I hope so. Venomcrawler looks stupider than obliterators
>>96896758>chaos undivided legions getting their own rulebooksthis is bait but it scared me enough to reply
Guys hear me outWhat if some Eldar decided to invert the Dark Eldar methods of protection and instead turned their Craftworld into a giant semi-brothel where they caused enough happiness and pleasure in other races as customers to guard their soulsThey could set up shop in Tau space and never need to leave
>>96897488i do depending on the model but like i said b4, guilliman is a BITCH to paint due to all the tiny armour details. hes wy easier for me personally on sprue.....>>96897462nope i have zero plans for that. i dont give nearly enough of a shit to do that. i just want my models to be 100% battle ready and look decent/good from a tabletop perspective. they are more game pieces than art pieces for me to be quite honest. i want to be able to assemble, paint and play with my armies in several games in a reasonable time frame instead of taking 6 months to a year to finish getting them picture perfect with advanced painting techniques to show off to other superior painters (that being said I never table a single unit that isn't completely painted and magnitized)
>>96897152Good for him. Being stuck in a flat in the city is miserable. I don't blame him.
>>96897174No, cis like the hexane conformation with halogen substituents
>>96897694>b-but GWAnd you think GW doesn't make up shit and lie as well?This whole thing is stupid.>i hate chaos and the chaos gods>in fact, i hate chaos so much that i will create/help a demon to ascend into becoming into a 5th chaos god out of fucking spite, a god which i then need to kill as well to get rid of chaos fullyLike do you forget that Abaddon's entire goal is to kill off chaos and all the gods, this INCLUDES Vashtorr. And Vashtorr is fully aware that Abaddon's plan is to kill all of Chaos, all the gods included, which also includes Vashtorr himself.So once Vashtorr ascends into a god, do you REALLY think that Vashtorr will just LET Abaddon kill him after he has fought hard to attain godhood his one and only goal?This is the entire plot line is fucking retarded. And you are more retarded for unironically shilling for it.
>>96897332This is how decalmutant engages with the thread now
>>96897392Say yes to invictor warsuits!
>>96897791That makes perfect sense tho. More and more subfactions will be fleshes out and more new factions made. That's the only option left for GW. All first founding chapters and og chaos legions will get their own, unique stuff
>>96897873That's not me but nice try punk
>>96897892I don't believe you
>>96897694I miss when codices were written from the perspective of the faction being written about (or through the perspective of other factions like crons and nids) instead of through an omniscient third-person narrator. Made sense why every book talked about itself like they were the hottest shit when it was just in-universe propaganda
>>96897866Don't you know that Vashtorr and Abaddon's plot mirrors Archaon's Great Horned Rat storyline in AoS?The ascension of the Great Horned Rat with the aid of Archaon caused turmoil in the Great Game of Chaos, which distracted the gods and weakened them, allowing Archaon to proceed to his next phase of his zero-gods plan.
>>96897881Except Thousand Sons.
>>96897902I can't help you with your mental issues anon, they have professionals who can work with you tho.
>>96897759>People, but not daemonsyea, demons too
>>96897881>can't soup legends R&H units >can't soup index units how am I supposed to make a chaos army if GW is making it for me, do you think WE players are happy with their bastard of a codex? fuck you James
>>96897912People pay attention to AoS’s plot?
>>96897881>All first founding chapters and og chaos legions will get their own, unique stuffsorry, you must surpass this line to receive support
>>96897958Grey Knights are getting support?
>>96897958Feels good to own 2 of the big 12, I truly am a staunch supporter of the Imperium and its efforts annihilate homosexuals from the universe.
>>96897951People don't pay attention to AoS at all.
>>96897958Where did they get this info from? Seems like bullshit. No way Deathwatch are more popular than Ravenguard.
>>96897881>>96897958>custodes / black legion >ultramarines / world bearers>blood angels / word eaters>dark angels / death guard>space wolves / thousand sons>salamanders / emperor children>black templars / iron warriors>deathwatch / alpha legion>grey knights / red corsairsthere's no place for anyone else
>>96897972Stop pretending to be me, twerp.
>>96897398I LOVE DREADNOUGHTS EVEN BOXNAUGHTS>>96897880I LOVE THE INVICTOR TACTICAL WARSUIT
>>96897984You're not even good at pretending to be me
>>96897930Name three times that happened
>>96897951That’s like asking if people know 40K lore beyond its memes. Only the extremely autistic!
>>96897912>uhm actually it's the same as this one other storyAnd notice how Archaon's plan didn't work for shit and only made everything worse? Ie. The End Times happened and everything went to shit.The chaos gods are at their most powerful in AoS. Nevermind that Archaon's great plan then just went ahead and created more gods/made them more active.And if you so believe that GW just rehash this same shit again, it then means that Abaddon's plan WILL fail and he has just only created a 5th chaos god in the form of Vashtorr, and he will just cope about it being "phase 2" of the plan next.You're not disproving the idea that you aren't complete gullible idiot.
What makes a good Commissar 40K fiction that's not just a plot device ?
Whats the difference between oldcrons and newcrons? I refuse to engage with youtube and tiktok sloppa
>>96898057We aren't going to spoonfeed you.
>>96898041You do realize that the Chaos Gods are terrified of Archaon, and he is a step or two closer to the twilight of the gods.The Great Horned Rat doesn't respect the rules of the Great Game. He will be an agent of chaos in Chaos that will distract the gods,Your problem is that you lack faith in Abaddon despite all that he has achieved
>>96898057>oldcronsMindless slaves to the ctan, started waking up in 40k now that the galaxy is ripe for a new harvest of life to feed the ctan again.>newcronsupper echelons of necron society retained some amount of will and they rebelled against the ctan and broken them into the shards which they enslaved. There are a bunch of feuding dynasties now.
>>96898071Yes you are. See >>96898088>>96898088Thanks anon!
>>96897992Only firstborn dweebs disagree
>>96898074Idk what it is, but something about the way you communicate makes you sound really smug.
>>96898117Sounds like you feel threatened by his intelligence
>>96898028Skarbrand going against his nature as servant of khorne to strike against khorneSyll going against her nature as tormentor of mortals to instead bond with a mortalUthl’kritchnaak going against his nature as servant of nurgle to deal with skaven>inb4 it was actually their nature all along to go against that specific part of their nature, and it won't possibly be part of vash's nature to go against his alleged nature when it happens to suit him!
>>96897683Yeah but the Imperium CHOOSES to have such a shitty lifespan. It’s the same thing with intelligence. The average Tau is no smarter than the average Human. They just get better education and brain chip implants to download knowledge.Humanity has every biological advantage over the Tau, they just squander it.
>>96898074>bro they are so terrifiedOf the guy who just did their bidding without realizing it and just keeps fucking up and making chaos stronger.>great horned rat doesn't respect the rulesThat doesn't mean shit, it's still a god and it only cares about its own survival. Also this is shit is a product is trying to sell.Both Archaon and Abaddon will never kill the gods because GW wants to keep selling Warhammer.They are both deluded puppets who are too blinded by their own ego and pride to not see the strings attached to them.
>>96898130I feel threatened by something but I dont think it's intelligence
>>96898130>abaddon shill is the AI sloppa faggotShould've known.
>>96898191>Humanity has every biological advantage over the Tau, they just squander it.Humanity owns the galaxy. Tau own a shitheel backwater of trailer park planets, which they can only hold because of Humans.
>>96898189None of those are against their nature. Daemons are not loyal to Chaos because it's in their nature. AS per the codex, it's because they fear that the Chaos Gods will absorb them back if they disobey.Slaaneshi daemons don't see themselves as tormentors but as guides to mortals. Syll was more on point than others.Nurgle himself allied with the Great Horned Rat due to their shared portfolio of plagues.
>>96898215>Humanity owns the galaxy.Imperium is only made up of 1 million planets.There's around 100 billion planets within the milkyway galaxy alone.Imperium doesn't even own 0,1% of the galaxy.
>more imperium and tau wankkill yourselves, seriously
>>96898222>Slaaneshi daemons don't see themselves as tormentorsIt doesn't matter what they see themselves as, they are just tormentors.Just because some dipshit serial killer sees himself as some emissary of his god that is "saving" people, it doesn't make him some emissary. He is still just a dipshit serial killer.
>>96898202You do realize that Archaon swindled and strong-armed the Chaos Gods of power and territory, creating whole realms where the worship of the Chaos Gods is looked down upon.Archaon burned down entire realities, denying them to Chaos.Archaon's goal is either to kill or enslave the Chaos Gods. The Aelves showed all that a Chaos God can be imprisoned and siphoned of his power. It can be done.
>>96898189>>96898222syll eske is in 40k too? thought that was an aos exclusive model desu
>>96898230Yeah we should go back ti talking about how the Eldar are TOTALLY an important faction, or how Nids definitely aren't a joke, or bette or yet how Votann are certaintly going to become major figures soon.
>>96898250I actually don't mind the Eldar and they do have some aesthetic appeal to me but their fan base is definitely grating.
>>96898074Abbadon's a little bitch who ain't got no arms. Ghazzy'll krump 'im after he gets done krumpin' Angron for being a killstealing snake
>>96898259They certainly have style.I'm just waiting to see if the new Corsairs have the Visarch aesthetic or not and I might buy into them myself.
>>96898222>None of those are against their nature. Yes, they are>Daemons are not loyal to Chaos because it's in their nature.Yes, they are, they're literally part of the god
>canonically outnumber every other race in the galaxy by an exponential factor>can live just about anywhere that isn’t hard vacuum>thriving while everyone else is strugglingGREEN IS BEST
>>96897881>That's the only option left for GW.Darkmech??? Exodites???
>>96898277There's no way Orks outnumbered the Tyranids after the fourth war began, especially if you count all the Genestealer Cults amongst them
>>96898246The newborn twins are exclusive Syll'eskke have been mentioned in 40K, and they have rules.>>96898238It does matter. Syll embodes the violent excess gained by the union of man and daemon. She is another flavor of Slaanesh rather than an inversion of his concepts
>>96898285Maybe they could actually flesh out some of the half Armies they just launched before rushing to put out another. Or some of the older lines with like no options. That might be a bit too bold for them though
>/40kg/ - Galactic Census Bureau
>>96898288Orks outnumber every other species by trillions. The only thing that keeps the galaxy from being completely Orkified is that Orks like fighting eachother as much as they like fighting everyone else.
>>96898272Nope.I see rage unbound.I see excess stoked.I see plague spread.Daemonic nature upheld>Yes, they are, they're literally part of the godWith their own minds and ambitions. Read the codex. The daemons are not programmed to be loyal to their gods. It's fear that keeps them in line. Fear because the gods hold their fates in their hands.
>>96898261Ghaz lost to Ragnar.
>>96898312They traded
>>96898307>>96898189>>inb4 it was actually their nature all along to go against that specific part of their nature, and it won't possibly be part of vash's nature to go against his alleged nature when it happens to suit him!
>>96898320But they didn't go against their nature. The examples are retardedly wrong. Especially the Nurgle one.
>>96898245>but broo he did this thingYeah, that doesn't mean shit either.And again, he didn't get anywhere closer to his plans about killing the gods, he literally created more of them.Also they are all more powerful than he is, all the gods or any of the gods at any moment could just explode his head or turn him into a chaos spawn if they so wished.Only reason they don't is because they don't give a shit about Archaon.Same goes Abaddon. The gods can at any moment just completely destroy his ship if it enters the warp.They just won't because Abaddon, like Archaon, is more useful to them alive.Abaddon literally tore the galaxy a new asshole and has only just empowered Chaos and made it worse.Archaon is in the same boat because him letting the End Times happen caused the Great Horned Rat and rest of Chaos to gain more power.Archaon creating couple of places which don't worship chaos doesn't mean shit when every other place still does it and now there's millions more of these pro-chaos place.
>>96898215So then why isn’t the Imperium able to crush the Tau? Humanity have the strength of an Ork, super intelligence, ancient powerful weapons, breed like rabbits, can live for centuries or even become immortal, have the most powerful psykers in the universe, have a nascent Chaos god on humanity’s side, and have a million worlds and hundreds of quadrillions of citizens. And yet every offensive operation against the Tau has failed and somehow there is Tau tech that is more advanced than Imperium tech despite the Imperium having a 40,000 head start.How the FUCK do you squander a 40,000 year head start?
>>96898291It doesn't matter.All daemons are slaves to the things they represent, they can't fight against their nature.
>>96898334>tourist doesn’t know the Imperium is 10,000 years into a slow and irreversible decay
>>96898333>Same goes Abaddon. The gods can at any moment just completely destroy his ship if it enters the warp.Then why can't they destroy Imperial ships in the Warp? Roboute's ship? Dante's ship? Etc. Checkmate.
>>96898334Humanity does not even consider the Tau a threat, the only thing they may concern themselves with in regards to the Tau are their large blue titted Tau slam pigs that could distract a marine in battle. Everything else is against the Taus favor.
>>96898334>So then why isn’t the Imperium able to crush the Tau?Because they have bigger issues to deal with.
>>96898353>irreversibleNot anymore. The primarchs are coming back.
>>96898367They do. The Inquistorial Conclave of the Eastern Fringes said that the T'au are as dangerous as the Tyranids and Necrons because they are fighting for control over humanity's destiny and soul.
>>96898372And? After the Galactic Goatse the Primarchs are just keeping the Imperium barely afloat. Nothing has changed about how dire the Imperium’s situation is.
>>96898353Yeah, through their own actions. If humanity wasn’t determined to waste their potentially they absolutely would be back to DAoT tech levels and curb stomp everyone else in the setting. There is absolutely nobody to blame for the Imperium being as incompetent as it is except the Imperium.
>>96898379>erm actually this one guy said they were... y'know, poetically..lmao
>>968983729th and 10th is about how Roboute can't arrest the decline of the Imperium. The 10th ed trailer highlights how fucked the Imperium is.The Imperium hasn't won a single campaign book since 9th started, and this streak was only broken by the Armageddon book
>>96898379>Tau>As Dangerous as Necrons and Tyranids
Don't worry Tau bros, your faction is still more threatening than the Eldar.
>>96898389It's not metaphoric when humans converted to the Greater Good are helping a goddess in the image of the T'au form in the Warp.
>>96898367If the Tau aren’t a threat, then why is the Imperium letting them take hundreds of worlds from them? Why are they throwing Space Marines and Titan Legions and irreplaceable archaeotech weapons at them and committing exterminatus on planets just to slow them down? Because that is not how you treat an enemy that’s a joke to you. You don’t exterminatus several planets if you know you can take those planets back at any time.
>>96897154thanks anon this is exactly what I wanted to do myself
>>96898331No, they aren't wrong at allThe gods craft demons and give them shapes to be their servants, they're extensions of them, for a demon to go against its own god is like a cell going tumoral, or like an arm choosing to strangle youskarbrand was punished by khorne for his transgression all the other demons of slaanesh picked on syll for her abnormal attachment to that mortalthe herald of nurgle was an actual renegade who wasn't dealing with skaven to further nurgle's plan, but to overthrow him, the skaven aren't nurglites, the canon is very explicit that the affinity between the clan pestilens and nurglites are surface level, for skaven plagues and rots are weapons, not part of a cycle, leave them do their thing and nothing will remain, everything will be in ruin, that's why nurgle is against the rat in the great game, the nurgle demon who propped clan pestilence was a sellout traitorvashtorr will end up lying when the situation will suit him, maybe indirectly, maybe by omitting the truth, maybe it's not technically a lie, but a truth removed from its context and written in microscopic letters between the lines of a contract, but he will lie because he's a demon and the only thing that matters to him is furthering his own personal goals
>>96898394>War is not a binary condition. Despite superficial appearances to the contrary it does not begin or end with a single discrete event. There may be catalysts and culminations, but their antecedents and consequences– cultural, material and even metaphysical– extend through times past and future like ripples in a river that flows two ways. Accordingly, the war between the Imperium and the Tau Empire did not begin and end with the Damocles Gulf Crusade. That conflict was the first great blossoming of our enmity and it will not be the last, but we have now entered a subtler phase of the game. Fifty years have passed since the crusade. Nothing has changed. Everything has changed.>Here on the margins of the Damocles Gulf we are embroiled in a cold war, an intricate game of deceit, manipulation and coercion waged against a master player. It is a delicate struggle, but never make the mistake of thinking it any less inimical to the Imperium than the voracious depredations of the tyranids or the bleak pogrom waged by the necrons, for the tau are playing for the hearts and minds of mankind. If they triumph our species may survive, but its destiny will not.- Aion Escher, Grand Master of theDamocles Conclave, Ordo Xenos
Alright bros we have>Ultramarines crate (Obvious)>Nurgle box (AoS)>Trasure chest (Old World)>Warhammer Quest (Lmao)It's a Marine reveal show, likely a big wave for Ultramarines considering how large the box is.
>>96898400I would be way more scared of mad clowns and the torturers of the month club than NATO with mech suits
>>96898432The pirate treasure chest is probably Corsairs
>>96898424>The gods craft demons and give them shapes to be their servants, they're extensions of them, for a demon to go against its own god is like a cell going tumoral, or like an arm choosing to strangle youThat's not how the lore writes them. Greater Daemons have automany. In fact, the lore says that the Chaos Gods give them so much freedom that they can rebel against them. However, even in rebellion, because of their nature as daemons, the rebel Greater Daemons will fall in line with the gods' portfolio. The Chaos Gods programmed the Greater Daemons with the capacity for disobedience. >the herald of nurgle was an actual renegade who wasn't dealing with skaven to further nurgle's plan,Citation needed.
>>96898366Because they don't care.Also the continued conflict within 40k is what feeds the gods more and more power.In 40k Khorne is empowered by all violence that is happening, regardless if either combatant is his worshipper.For example like a sister of battle who is chainswording a wretched in mutant half. Or a loyalist marine who is punching an ork to death. All of that empowers Khorne, like it's said, Khorne cares where the blood flows from, as long as it does.And this is the same case for the rest of the gods as well.Nurgle is a good example too, Nurgle is represented by disease and decay. But the specific thing he actually feeds off of and gains power from is Despair.And he is constantly gaining more power because the Imperium is a horrific failed state where every citizen lives in absolute squalor, misery, ie. Despair, every waking moment of their lives. Chaos won in 40k already. Not because it fully dominated and destoyred the Imperium or that they managed to cripple the Emperor.No, Chaos has won because the very existance of the Imperium and all the actions it tries to take, feeds Chaos more power.That's the reason why the gods largely don't give a shit. The galaxy is already giving them what they want.And Abaddon only made it worse by opening the Great Rift, which is constantly expanding and swallowing up more and more planets into it.And since Rift is oozing out warp energy, it has made daemonic incursions and chaos worshipping cults even more common than ever.
>>96898433I don't have the pahe number on me but the new Tau Codex had a blurb about Harlequins attacking Tau settlers leading to the Earth Caste developing specialized scopes that countered Eldar prismatic blur tech and allowed even basic Fire Warriors to gun down Troupes.
>>96898372>The primarchs are coming back.And in numerous books it's already been stated that the Imperium is failing regardless.Even Guilliman notes that there is nothing he can do to turn the 10 000 years of corruption and decay around.
>>96898448You got it wrong.The Chaos Gods are working to destroy the galaxy, accelerating the processAbaddon is now working with Vashtorr to save the galaxy before it's swallowed by the Warp. It's the whole plot of the "Arks of Omen: Abaddon"Read the books, nigga!
>>96898442We already know that the Corsair leak was fake now that 500 Worlds was leaked as the end-of-edition event.
>>96897166Their lifespan is essentially close to what we have right now. Remember that the average lifespan for humans in Ultramar is 35 years.
Is Aeronautica Imperialis alive?
>>96898447>Citation needed.It is in the demon's very description that his plan is to take on its (former) master.You don't know what you're talking about and are replacing what's actually canon with what you think the lore "writes" them.
>>96898486Only as an expansion to Legion Imoerialis.
>Be GW>Bring back primarchs>Improve the imperium>Oh shit, what about my decay?>Actually, it's written in books that it's not progressFalling for professional gaslighting, so of you are.
>>96898486nobut valrak had rumors of a plastic flier for Warhammer: Heil Hitler
>>96898482Yes but that’s artificially induced because the Imperium is so fucking incompetent that it’s healthcare and quality of life is utter dogshit, if you took a human and put them in better living conditions they’d still live to their normal IRL lifespan.The Tau have to work hard, be innovative and adaptable, and use technology to overcome their vast biological shortcomings. Meanwhile Humanity has so many biological advantages over the xenos that they end up wasting most of them.
>>96898497*some
>>96898497>Improve the imperiumthat hasn't actually happened, despite what retarded tertiaries may think
>>96898490Nope. READRebellion is factored into the spawning of Greater Daemons.
>>96898497Nothing changed in the grand scheme of things because of the primarch that were brought back lmao. It's all a nothingburger designed to sell their fucking miniatures, you lore autists are so tiresome
>>96897822If you don't give a fuck about mold lines, why do you give a fuck about hard to reach details? Leaving mold lines and gates on an expensive center piece is deranged action committed by an alien mind.
>>96898511>new space marines>new imperial guard toys>custodes left the palace>primarchsOf course the gaslit cultist refuses the truth lolStay lost, waste of time.
>>96898505What are you talking about? It's stated in the lore that Tau's physical attributes are similar to humans.Tau's eyesight has a slower focusing reflex than humans, but they can see further and clearer.
>>96897980This is a reddit popularity chart based on zero data and what the creator thought was popular. His words.
>>96898520>reading comprehension 404The miniatures contradict the "lore", the "lore" is ass
Ok what are we gonna do about the other thread? We're gonna hit bump limit soon which'll put this one on a later page and someone clueless is gonna post in the other one. Baker's probably gonna need to link a new thread in the other one if we're not gonna recycle it otherwise that fucker will be there for a month
>>96898515That doesn't say what you want it to say and you're once again falling back to >>96898189>>inb4 it was actually their nature all along to go against that specific part of their nature, and it won't possibly be part of vash's nature to go against his alleged nature when it happens to suit him!Take the L and go back.
>>96898521Don't bother, anon.
>>96898558It does. It says that Greater Daemons are given enough freedom to rebel against the orders of their god and that the Chaos Gods expect Daemons to be disloyal, but they tolerate it the same way an understanding parent tolerates the antics of unruly teenagers.
>>96898425>you don't win wars with a trillion soldiers, you win it with *destiny*god taushit is so fucking stupid.
>>96898533They might see out further and clearer but their depth perception actually sucks, they’re shorter than humans, their reflexes are slower, they live half as long as a human when they’re both healthy, and they don’t breed any faster or have any more intelligence than a regular human, and they don’t get psykers either.A Tau literally has nothing but biological downsides compared to a human.
>>96898526>>new imperial guard toysmodels getting updates doesn't mean the setting has advanced technologically custodes leaving the palace don't make the imperium bettera second slightly taller marine roaming the galaxy doesn't suddenly improve the worst regime imaginable You're literally just looking at primaris marines and thinking the whole imperium got some kind of similar jump in quality, it didn't, it's still the same shithole as beforearguably the greatest change guilliman brought was the partial restructuring of the high lords of terra, but it did little to truly shake the conflict between political entities that plague the imperium
>>96898565It blows my mind that there are anons simping for her despite the dogshit takes and /soc/ tier drama she brings
>>96898578Free breed and housing, and a state-mandated girlfriend are enough to win the hearts of a trillion-trillion men.Such is the power of socialism.
>>96898486>Won't buy AoS will you? James Workshop will give you another day to remember!
>>96898582They have the same strength and pain tolerance levels as humans. And I am calling bs on slower reflexes. Farsight fought Orks and Tyranids outside his suit and Aun'shi kept up with numerous Drukhari.
>>96898588okay reddit, but this is a game about warfare>in the grim darkness of the future there is ALSO le wholesome socialist subversion
>>96898578The Imperium has never sent trillions of soldiers at fucking anybody. Hell, the Imperium sending hundreds of billions of soldiers at the Tau already vastly exceeds the majority of conflicts the Imperium has waged in the past, including stuff like the War for Armageddon.
>>96898598Forgot to address this>and they don’t breed any faster or have any more intelligence than a regular human, and they don’t get psykers either.They do breed faster than humans. They don't breed naturally. They are factory-bred through test tubes babies.They are vastly smarter than humans. Tau commanders and even sergeants have been stated to be equally as skilled in warfare as marine captains.Moreover, Farsight said that the marine codex was basic shit compared to the teachings of Puretide.
>Taufag vs Imperifag debate threadDon't you guys get tired of screaming at walls all day
>>96898622But none of those are inherent biological advantages. That the Tau are smarter literally just comes down to a combination of superior education and brain-chips that upload information directly into their head (which is why any Tau can speak basically any language, but Water Caste training is needed not to speak it with a heavy accent). Likewise, the cloning facilities aren’t unique to the Tau, the Imperium can clone people, it just chooses not to because it has no shortage of dregs to sweep up and throw into battle. And the marine codex being dogshit has less to do with humanity inherently being dumb and more to do with Space Marines being literal manchildren with daddy issues that permeates their entire culture.
>>96898622Idk every time I hear this shit it just sounds even lamer than chaossissies trumping up their bullshit. Oh we're blue goat people but we're superioru wapanesu bullshitto. Who gives a fuck? They're still fucking ass to play into
>>96898644We can go back to the Abaddon arguement if you want.
Do tau lay eggs?
>>96898656Do cows lay eggs?
Cover is given on a model per model basis right?
>>96898656nobut fimir do
>>96898644Let's discuss Eldar women preferring Human men instead.
>>96898668Fimirs mentioned woah
>>96898678Do Fimir even still exist in Fantasy?
>>96898644Someone call the Space Wolves guy in here I guess.>>96898622I mean of course Farsight would say that. I like the guy but that’s hardly evidence of anything.
Ultramarines are getting MORE stuff?!
>>96898671By the way, did the Rogue Trader RPG game really canonize Eldar and humans boning?
>>96898578I know the Taufags pushing there power level are just being sort of tongue and cheek with it but I can't say it has not been annoying listening to these little birdies chirping all the time.
>>96898680I have no clue. Maybe? Total war perhaps?
>>96898682I mean, yes? The new narrative is about Ultramar being invaded by the T'au and Necron, and possibly a third mysterious enemy (Chaos)
>>96898681What's up chief?
>>96898684It would be less annoying if you didn’t also have Imperiumfags trying to make out the war for Armageddon to be sort of big deal.
>>96898683>CWE and HumansDubious. Yrliet doesn't do it but she's genuinely autistic and borderline retarded. However one of the DLCs implies one of the RT's ancestors secretly had an Eldar lover.>Dark Eldar and HumanHardcore rough sex with razor blades and barbed wire bondage.
>>96898683No. You can romance the Eldar girl but she's the only companion who won't have sex with you. It's a "platonic romance" according to the devs as she sees humans as animals. You can fuck the Deldar guy of course.
>>96898681>I mean of course Farsight would say that. I like the guy but that’s hardly evidence of anything.Farsight fully analysed the codex and created the Mirrorcodex.Whereas none of the Puretide three managed to fully master their master's teachings.That's evidence of something, no?
>>96898683The DE dude was down for it at least.>>96898700The problem is people like Eldrad got involved so it kinda was. You just kind of have to ignore that GW cannot handle numbers well.
>>96898703Anon, stop this retarded take. She's an outcast and more likely to fuck a human than a Craftworlder. The fact she doesn't should tell you that others won't even consider it as they live much stricter lives. New Corsair novel even implies that homos are banned on Craftworlds.
>>96898680>>96898685Albion is mentioned, Hags are mention on Albion, but Fimir specifically haven't been mentioned yet.
>>96898721>New Corsair novel even implies that homos are banned on Craftworlds.Voidscarred isn't canon.
>>96898680yes, they're mentioned in the tow rulebook and even aos still has them>fimir bay
>>96898680Of course they do.
>>96898737And they shoulda been the 3e debutants instead of the anorectic swamp orcs.
>>96898740That's not even a good photoshop Anon.
>>96898721>She's an outcast and more likely to fuck a human than a CraftworlderShe's a literal autist by Eldar standards and even her own people wanted her gone. She's overcorrected herself into being an extremist due to the guilt of abandoning her Craftworld, but the problem is that she's a dipshit teenager who doesn't actually know what being an Eldar is supposed to be like.
>>96898682Hopefully it's tyrannic war veterans, and hopefully we also stop getting blueballed about the moon-sized tyranid ship
>>96898721>New Corsair novel even implies that homos are banned on Craftworlds.based
>>96898707The Mirror-what?
>>96898776>the tyranids trophies slowly grow roots into the marine and start puppeteering it around
>>96898784a booklet of answers and counters to any and all tactics the marines use
>>96898711It was a war for a single hive world. The Imperium has 32,000 hive worlds and thousands more forge worlds. Even ignoring numbers, there is absolutely no way that some dipshit Ork failing to take a single planet 3 separate times matters more than the hundreds of worlds the Imperium has lost to the Tau, including forge worlds and hive worlds like Agrellan, which the Imperium used a one of a kind archaeotech weapon to commit exterminatus upon and set the entire nebulae on fire in doing so when it was clear the Tau would take it.I’m not saying the Tau are the strongest enemy the Imperium has, far from it. But this idea that the Imperium isn’t taking them seriously is a load of bull. When a Space Marine chapter gets wiped out or a planet gets an exterminatus upon it, it’s usually treated as a big deal….but when the Tau are involved suddenly it’s not. But for the Imperium to not be taking the Tau seriously, that would have to mean that exterminatus, the loss of a space marine chapter, the loss of hive worlds and forge worlds and hundreds of other planets, the loss of titans, the loss of archaeotech weapons…somehow none of that matters to the Imperium anymore. And since when has that ever been the case? To say that the Imperium doesn’t take the Tau seriously basically requires that you butcher the Imperium’s lore to make it so that everything we are told is rare is actually common and disposable.
>>96898432500 worldsNurgle sigmar Kislev peek
>9/11 joke in novemberwhy can't GW do anything right?
how do nids deal with demolisher/artillery spam from guard in 7th?
>>96898861In 7th Edition Warhammer 40k, Tyranids dealt with Imperial Guard Demolisher and artillery spam primarily through a combination offast-moving melee units to tie up or destroy the tanks in close combat, and dedicated long-range anti-tank units to eliminate them from a distance. Per Google AI, I am a 10th baby.
>>96898839>chinese fireworksoh no, it's more cathay shit
>>96898875never reply to me again
>>96898682Loyalty is its own reward. :)
>>96898776>Full counter>Not Focus Crit Draw
96898883Sorry
L O L
I've unearthed a ton of 40k and WFB stuff from my parents house era late 90s - early 00s.Where do you guys think is the best place to sell? Ebay seems hit and miss
>>96898915LOL
>>96898904anon is more a grok man>>96898861prioritize 1-2 "knights" (Flyrants/Carnifexes) for tank-hunting while flooding with cheap screens to force split fire. Formations like the Hive Tyrant Detachment boost durability. This matchup favors aggressive Nids play; passive lists get shelled off the board. For full lists, check era battle reports like Wave Assault scenarios.
Is there any enemy that the Imperium couldn’t take on 1 to 1 if they weren’t dealing with other threats?
Kek
>>96898941Probably the Necrons and thats it.
>>96898955And that’s assuming a fully awakened Necron empire. The Necrons as they are now would get absolutely shitstomped by the Imperium if they weren’t busy elsewhere.
>>96898943>TC>wall of textcan't be fucked to read that, mate
>>96898943buy an ad
>>96898943Not surprised. They’re morally dubious Frenchmen who discoveres their politically shifted paypiggies, it didn’t make sense not to go for that.
>>96898943Good for them, I guess.I wonder if they'll try making a modular set of plastic trenches, those could be useful
>>96898965Agreed, I would say the rankings for threats to the Imperium are as follows : 1.)Tyranids2.)Chaos3.)Necrons4.)Orks5.)Eldar/Dark Eldar6.)Votann 7.)GSC8.)Tau
>>96898995CWE are at the bottom now that Guilliman is going to tame and sanction them.
>>96898995I would put Tau tied for 4th place about the same as the Orks. The Eldar themselves are too few to really be much of a threat anymore, and the Drukhari are powerful, but more of a nuisance. The Irks are theoretically more powerful than the Tau, but have a much worse track record on the actual battlefield.
>power level autism
>>96899020I accept your concession
>>96899013Orks would absolutely roflstomp the Tau, keep dreamin bloobies boy.
>>96899053The Tau have already beaten the Orks several times in the past. Hell, I’m pretty sure even Farsight’s enclaves have held off Ork invasions before and he has like, 4 planets to work with.
Im tired of the ultramarines.
>>96899098I'm not.
>>96899098I’m not. Daddy needs a new Calgar model.
>>96898995>>96899010Eldar/DEldar both have a vested interest in the survival and flourishing of humanity as a whole, even if they tend to prune them as necessary (probably less than the Imperium already does to their own worlds).
>>96899098ultramarines are actually based
>>96899110>>96899120>>96899125ENOUGH FROM THE MACRAGGOTS
>>96899137Eldar don't need to worry any more since Guilliman is going to officially welcome them to rhe Imperium, and once they start worshipping the Emperor he'll protect their souls from Slaanesh.
>>96898943So they're just warhammer 40k but worse in all aspect?No xenos, worse chaos, "WW1 but more tech lol", and worse plastic kits, with as little option as modern GW kits?Nigger why would I play trench crusade then? Are they fucking retarded?Why wouldn't I just use 40k minis with 40kfied mordheim rules?
>>96899088>4 planets to work with.four systems*
What did the emperor really plan for humanity? Did he plan an artificial evolution of humanity in his vision or something like that?
>>96899143Ultramarines are king.
>>96899178he was winging it, that's why you see all that eagle iconography
>>96899178Relatively speaking, short term pain for long term gain. He knew the Horus Heresy was going to happen and he tried to rig what parts of it he could in his favor, with the eventual goal of maryring himself to facilitate the Imperium's Faith in him to become empowered enough to push away the Chaos Gods without becoming one along the way.His idea is that so ling as he's able to save the souls of humans along the way it'll be fine to subject the Imperium to suffering until he ascends to becoming the God of Order to finally banish Chaos and correct the Warp, thereby allowing Mankind to enter a new Golden Age and conquer the galaxy.
>>96899178Didn't he plan to elevate all of humanity to the level of custodes or even above?
>>96899178Kill chaos + prepare humanity into becoming a psychic race.That's it.
>>96898995I'm a nidfag and I would argue that nids are more in-yo-face while gayoss is more about moral corruption (as much as chaos worldbuilding lowkey sucks inconsistent ass)
>>96899220not at allthe emperor was against transhumanism, the point was creating a context where mankind would be able to safely carry out its natural evolution into a psychic racethe end point was eldar-1
I'm sick so I can't paint
>>96898594Aeronautica Imperialis relaunched for AoS could be fun. I don't know of any X-Wing clones that have dragons and dirigibles, so that might be fresh.
>>96899164But you get to shoot evil arabs!
>>96899251I'm taint so I can't pick
>>96899215But isn’t the Emperor going to become the Dark King instead? That’s not exactly a god of order, more of a god of ruin.
>>96899270We could always do that
>>96899247>the end point was eldar-1The Emperor expected/intended humanity to reach the psychic level of the Eldar before the fall?
>>96899279>But isn’t the Emperor going to become the Dark King instead?no, the emperor is struggling with all his might against that fate, if he stalls enough then the starchild will rise instead of the dark king
>>96899287No, just psychic, not like eldar, hence the -1.
>>96899297But the Star Child is an enemy of the Imperium, they would be bad for it
>>96899279Initially Chaos wished for him to do so but he rejected that fate before his duel with Horus. Abaddon is now the chosen on to become the Dark King, while the Emperor has transcended to something new and unforeseen.
>>96899160i love beastman in fantasuy but holy shit i hate some coomers that orbiting about them or posting same memes all the time. cute goat would pet
>>96899178The original idea was basically>reconquer Terra>create space marines for soldiers and primarchs to be generals>reunite with Mars>start a crusade to conquer as much of the former DAoT territory and planets and try to expand if possible>find and create new tech and resources when the crusade is happening>establish the imperium to bring stability>secretly create the human parts of the webway so humanity isn't solely reliant on warp travel like it was in the past so Age of Strife can't happen again>maybe (BIG maybe) make truces with some relatively peaceful xenos that can be reasoned with (mainly eldar)>end the crusade, turn the primarchs and marines to more peace time oriented roles (Dorn and Pert were meant to be builders, Guilliman a governor, etc.) so the Imperium can flourish and function, but if need ever rises, marines can still be formed into legionsThis was largely what Rick Priestley's idea ORIGINALLY was when he came up with the Horus Heresy, which ultimately up ended this entire plan. The entire point of the Heresy was that it is an actually tragedy for humanity and Emperor, it was the last possible hail mary attempt to let humanity regain some footing in the galaxy.Nowadays the plan has clearly changed, but the entire idea about what the Emperor's plan is just>"the writers are just making this shit up as they go"Over all consensus and evidence points to that the Emperor was trying to guide as much of humanity possible into the webway where they could then evolve to become similiar beings that he was.And somehow this plan includes the Emperor giving all superhumans, like marines, primarchs and yes even custodes the thunder warrior treatment and they would've all be executed/gotten rid of.Nowadays the plan Emps has makes zero sense, which isn't surprising when there's like 10 different authors with every single one having their own idea and GW and its editors having no interest in tard wrangling the said writers.
>>96899303the star child would be an enemy of the imperium only because it would be an ally of mankindthe complete opposite of the dark king who would make the imperium as successful as it can possibly be, while dooming the soul of mankind
>>96899352Maybe, but let’s be honest, the second you have some god-child show up anywhere close to the Imperium preaching love and tolerance and acceptance and hope…the Imperium is going to gun them down like a dog.
>>96899347>>"the writers are just making this shit up as they go and virtue signal"Ftfy
>>96899279No, Emps specifically rejected that entire thing in End and the Death.He was basically going super saiyan or whatever the fuck, but then Oll Persson (Ollanius Pious) who is his old friend and basically tells him "Hey this super saiyan thing is a bad idea, you're just gonna turn into a chaos god if you do this."Emperor was just "Oh shit, you're right" and then just stops and decides to face Horus at his current level of power.The entire Dark King plotline is just stupid and pointless. It was basically just included there to try set up the Dark King's presence within 40k proper.But it just falls flat and it is regarded as "Wow, that was stupid and a waste of fucking time." by most of the fanbase.
>>96899378>But it just falls flat and it is regarded as "Wow, that was stupid and a waste of fucking time." by most of the fanbase.Still more engaging and interesting than any xenos plot to have ever existed.
>>96899378Remember when Sanguinius was moving at the speed of light and Horus defeated him at the speed of darkness
>>96899378It’s cause the idea that the Emps would ascend into any positive sort of warp god upon his death is kinda stupid since he and basically everything around him is malice to the extreme, so they need to show that he’d become something bad instead.
>>96899368that's why a starchild plotline would inevitably involve either a civil war or one of asymmetrical resistance and rebellionif that sounds like star wars it's because the chosen champions of the starchild are 40k's forgotten jedi master ripoffs
>>96899416>the speed of darkness
>>96899416>Remember when Sanguinius was moving at the speed of light and Horus defeated him at the speed of darknessabnett didn't really write that, right? what the fuck?no way this is real
>>96899247Wouldn't it be better if all of humanity became blanks?
>>96899482no, because then they would lack SOVL
>>96899465>He isn’t there. He’s slipped aside, a flash of gold, as fast as a sunbeam, evading you at the speed of light.>But you, you move at the speed of darkness. You catch him on the backswing, your Talon shearing locks of his hair, and snapping his head sideways. Worldbreaker does the rest. It hits him just above the hip, folds him double, and hurls him across the Court like a doll. He flies, one last time.I still laugh thinking about this on occasion. I know I shouldn’t but it’s so unintentionally funny.
>>96899510>know I shouldn’tWhat do you mean, this is the peak of comedy
>>96899493Lacking a soul in 40k is honestly preferable. Means neither daemons/chaos or the warp can touch you.And there's no ill effects, blanks are just entirely normal besides for the anti-warp aura they put off.Hell, even in death they have it better because since they have no souls, when they die, they won't slip into the warp, meaning they won't risk the chance of being found by a daemon and then being tortured for eternity.
>>96899510please tell me it's fake, I beg you, even if you have to lie, tell me it's fake, I'll take your words for it, I don't want this
>>96899510>but you, you move at the speed of darkness.What is this Coldsteel the Hedgehod tier writing?
>>96899510Is it true that the duel between the Emperor and Horus created a time paradox that birthed the Chaos Gods at the first moment of reality via the collective suffering of the Siege of Terra manifesting therr?
Anyone check in on the Dark Eldar bros? Are they okay?
>>96899522>Lacking a soul in 40k is honestly preferable.no, it isn't>And there's no ill effectsyes, there isthe difference cannot be put into objectivity, but it's there, the connection to the warp is not just something to get psychic powers sometimes, it's the source of all those buzzwords that give life its meaning, value and thrust.one can argue all he wants how such a thing doesn't exist in real life, but in the warhammer setting that is a thing that inarguably exists and removing one's soul deprives you of that, you simply have to accept that lacking a soul is bad.by making everyone a blank you doom the soul of mankind to oblivion, rather than hell, but you're still doomed mankind.
>>96899547no
>>96899510Someone post a screenshot of it, I beg
>>96899510>this is the quality of writing lorefags argue about to their last breath
>>96899510Bet it sounds way cooler in his head.
>>96899493I've heard that blanks don't really lack souls, but that their souls are simply undetectable in the immaterium or are even in some kind of place opposite to it, so they simply don't fit what others think a soul is/are not detectable as such.
>>96899551they just need time to get used to the new codex...
>>96899344vtumor opinions aren't valid
>>96899645nta but biboo a cutie
>>96899580No, there is no actual ill effects to missing a soul. Every blank shown are completely normal and there is nothing wrong or odd with them. Only thing that makes them weird is their anti-warp aura and nothing more.Otherwise they are completely normal.>it's the source of all those buzzwords that give life its meaningThis is not all a thing that is at all mentioned or shown with 40k.All blanks we have seen are just normal. None of them are suicidal or even emotionless. Only ones that are mentioned to be emotionless are culexus assassins but that is entirely because they are children who have gotten since from childhood psycho indoctornated and groomed into becoming merciless killers.
>>96897274Void Dragon stuff seems to be pretty Lovecraftian, but yeah not a ton of stuff. Maybe Lovecraftian more in the sense of some of Howard's more tangible bad guys like Innsmouth/Cthulu/etc vs the cosmic horror genre he pioneered.
>>96899664Cute and funny, one would say.
>>96899683cunny, even
>>96899510This is what carnac/shaskais thinks is deep and interesting?
>>96897465>>96897641Alternatively...
>>96899665>No, there is no actual ill effects to missing a soulyes there is, blanks are soulless and everyone with souls can tell something is wrong with them, people in the pariah nexus will feel worse due to its effects, and necrons could tell that lacking a soul was bad for them.You're arguing against what's explicitly the canon: soul exists and matter for a physical existence, lacking a soul is bad.
>>96899465>>96899510Seems like decent, if a bit flowery, writing. What’s to laugh at?
>>96899695
>>96899702Anons aren't appreciating that Horus tapped into the dark energy of the universe to counter light speedIt's simple physics
>>96899665>black swans don't exist if I've never seen them>autism doesn't exist if the autist compensates its behaviours
How the hell did the Imperium survive for 10,000 years without balkanizing anyways.
>>96899714But that’s not what happened, the writer was just using overly flowery descriptors of a dark vs light sort of imagery fight. No one is “moving at the speed of light” any more than “moving at the speed of darkness” it’s just hyperbole.
>>96899733Mad Hatter rule.
>>96899733They have Balkanized a few times, they just kinda got back together eventually when one faction or another won. Look into the Nova Terra Interregnum and Occlusiad war.
>>96899733By using their iron fist to slap down anyone even so slightly moving towards independence.
>>96899665>Otherwise they are completely normal.Blanks don't really lack a soul, but their souls are negative. Instead of a shining aura, it's a black hole, a negative space. That's why everyone around them find them repulsive, because subconsciously they can feel the drain on their own souls. Necrons being soulless mostly freak the Eldar out, since to them the soul is everything and the idea of living without a soul is really alien to them.
>>96899733Because everyone is dependent on each other. Individual planets don't have the means of getting anywhere alone. To have ships you need the Imperial Fleet (in charge of the Navy, civilian vessels, etc.), in order to get around you need Navigators, in order to get weapons you need Admech, etc.
>>96899737overly flowery descriptors are meant to make something look and sound good.a teenager's first edgy fanfiction is not "good".
>>96899761In that case, if there were enough blanks, wouldn't that run the risk of creating some kind of negative chaos god or something like that?
>>96899773Wouldn’t that make it really hard for the Imperium to actually do anything though, making their 1 million worlds more of a theoretical rather than any sort of indication of the resources they can actually access since they have to bribe and bargain with like 30 different organizations just to get a tank created and put on the frontlines and crewed?
>>96897881The reason this is a dumb idea is that it means IW can't use other chaos stuff.
>>96899802>bribe and bargainNo more than any other government. The Administratum isn't the single largest organization in the Imperium without reason. They handle all the paper pushing and if someone doesn't play ball, they'll get a stern letter delivered to them via a crusading fleet. It's just space feudalism. Individual worlds are allowed to live how they like as long as they pay their taxes and love the Emperor. The Imperium doesn't handle mundane, day-to-day operations on each world.
>>96899783I dislike TEATD for many reasons like a lot of fellow lorefags, but in this case you're missing the point.That purple prose and the metaphors are a feature, not a bug, and make perfect sense in context.Your nickpicking is retarded when the real issue in that scene is the setup, Sanguinius NOT being in rage, and him being crucified at the end when the Emperor arrives, thus negating all the classic artwork about that scene.
>ITT: losers don't even know that the speed of darkness is faster than the speed of light
>>96897958RG/IH/WS should be grateful to REAL space marine players for buying enough models to prop up their shitty NPC faction. Be thankful you even get to have mirror matches to play with your off-brand "we already have a first founding at home" chapters.
>>96898521bc i want to fully paint the models anon. its not as complicated as you think. i care about some things but not others mold lines dont bother me and i didnt even notice them until i saw them mentioned in these threads....like i said in the other post my models i consider more tabletop game pieces than art pieces i want every last detail perfected, ya know? as long as i can get them to a point where they look good enough then im satisfied.....
>>96898074>You do realize that the Chaos Gods are terrified of ArchaonShut up ADB, the chaos gods aren't your deadbeat dad and they aren't afraid of your shitty self-inserts.
>>96899877Darkness has no speed becuase it's merely the absence of Light. The Light is always the factor that moves, while Darkness is a static entity impacted by Light's movements.
>>96899699>and everyone with souls can tell something is wrong with themBut there physically isn't.The whole feeling of "wrongness" is just entirely psychological, and there's no physical evidence to show that there is anything wrong with the blanks besides their aura.Just because you "feel" something is off, doesn't mean it is.>lacking a soul is bad.Only a belief that is held by characters within in-universe who literally can't understand what blanks even are.We have the out of universe perspective and you can tell there is nothing wrong with blanks based on every depiction we have had of them, they are just regular humans.Like sisters of silence, they are just fine and nothing is wrong with them.If there really was something wrong and fully off with them, then the Emperor would have never even bothered to create and use them.
>>96899850The entire paragraph reads like shit and sounds fucking stupid.It actually sounds like something that a retarded 12 year old would make up in a make-believe fight.>i'm moving at the speed of light, you cannot hit me for nothing is faster than light>nuh uh, i'm moving at the speed of darkness which is faster than lightIt's stupid.I don't care how "flowery" something reads, if it sounds like shit, it is shit.
>>96899942When a psyker tosses a fireball at a blank and it fizzles out of existence, that's not the fireball "feeling" that something is "wrong".
>>96899916NTA but it's true he keeps them on their toes.
>>96899917Without Darkness you have no appreciation for life in the Light. Only when Light fades do you realize you have taken it for granted. You need the Dark more than you allow yourself to know.
>>96900016Shut the fuck up Ansem, Kingdom Hearts is Light.
>>96899699>Live in Materium creates Shadow-self in Immaterium, not the other way around, Materium must exists first for something to happen in Immaterium.>Per the later pages, Shadow-self is independent existence, it isn't the person it growth out of, just psychic energy that doesn't actually retain anything from it's host.>Materium still needs Immaterium...Because it just does!Also, when Priestley wrote this, Blanks weren't even a thing and Rick thinks they are ignoring how Warhammer, in his mind, works.>BIFFORD: Was it you who came up with Untouchables? These are humans born without souls. Their brains push away the Warp from real-space, disrupting psychic phenomena.>PRIESTLEY: Nope - that sounds like a 'get round' to me - it's something that 'gets round' something in the background rather than building on or conforming to it.It's pretty clear how the things work if you think about it. Souls are important...Only if you have skill issue. If you are accustomed to having a soul or positive-soul, you will prefer such existence because that's what is normal for you. You don't need it, having negative-soul like Blanks is objectively better, having no souls is also better but if you have skill issue, you wouldn't be able to just keep your shit together and you will die like a bitch. The fact that most forms of "soul-removal" affects your actual life-force, instead of just the parasitic warp-energy growing out of your mind, likely also influences this but on itself, warp-free existence is objectively superior. It's just majority of people suffer from skill issue, and would either loose their shit if you removed that mind-parasite or would keep whining about wanting it back like Necrons because "I liked feeling funny before!!!".
>>96900021
>>96899968All that happens in that interaction is just the blank's aura negating/dissipating the warp energy that makes up the fireball.That's it. It's not complicated.
>>96899665>>96899761So wouldn't it be better if all of humanity became blanks instead?Of course, based on how when many blanks were gathered in one place, it created a shadow in the warp and was an obstacle to warp travel, they may have to find other means of travel, but that would make them immune to warp and could possibly even cut off the connection to the hive mind of the Tyranids that went to worlds of blanks and the warp connection of the Ork groups that tried the same. This could also make them more vulnerable to Necrons and Ctans, as they would not be able to use warp against them.
>>96900016>Darknes>not the Light >implying
>>96900016Cool story bro, but darkness still isn't faster than light.
>>96899968That's impact Blank quality of life how? Does that make them immoral? Does it make the Blank incapable of empathy, of friendship, of intellectual ability to appreciate a painting or good food? All it describes is a person who objectively is better of than a Psyker, because the Blank can deflect fireballs which is fucking cool and if Blank wants to cast fireballs of his own, he can by simply learning Warpcraft or building plasma cannon.
Xehanort and Erebus go to the same gym
Is being born a blank a cheat code to not suffer for all eternity in the warp after death
Why can't Tau fags appreciate winning from an underdog position, why do they need to manufacture shit.The Tau empire is something that's really neat to have a model range for. It's an alien empire finding success in the cracks forming in the Imperium's dominance, and given the scale of the galaxy, there's probably hundreds of those empires not represented by model ranges or even mentioned. Everything printed after the 4th edition codex is to delude idiots into thinking they're more than that. There's a thousand small but legitimate threats to the imperium that are just not quite big enough to draw organized and focused attention. The Tau are barely special. Some other crackpot Eldar Farseer has a quote about how the Glarpneks of the North West Fringe are the light and hope of the galaxy, and they, too, fought off a minor crusade. They just don't have a model line.
What can we do with her?
>>96900247Is that a human or an elf?
>>96899098HOLEEE FUKKEN BASADO
>>96900163>Erebus will be redeemed at the end of 40k and happily go to heaven with the spirit of the Anchorite after the Starchild beats lectures him about friendship>>96900195No. Human souls don't suffer for eternity to begin with, unless you're a psyker your soul doesn't even last long enough to realize what's going on before peacefully fading into the raw 'stuff' of the Warp. Psykers last slightly longer and may realize what's going on, and MIGHT get grabbed by Daemons for a moment before fading away.Eldar souls are the only ones tormented for eternity, since they're all powerful psykers and their souls are owned by Slanesh.
>>96900247Huh, turns out GW can't sculpt feet either
>>96900253TBD
>>96900245>the GlarpneksWhat is that?
>>96900266Do Eldar with atrophied psychic abilities like Drukhari still last forever in the warp? Is it not just about psychic ability but genetics?
>>96900282Yes. Eldar were stupidly strong psykers before the fall, even if physically atrophied their souls still retain a significant presence in the Warp.
is there a concept of a heaven/hell/afterlife in 40k? Or is it all shit and suffering all the time with no escape ? what about the souls the emps eats ? so they become one with his consciousness?
>>96900266>>96900282We don't really know what happens to Eldar souls upon death. The "Slaanesh eats them" is all we got but there are a lot of inconsistencies in what actually happens and there are ways that work but shouldn't work to cheat Slaanesh like those demonstrated by Haemonculi and Thousand Sons.Also going by what happened in WFB -> AoS you can still reclaim those souls from Slaanesh quite easily.
>>96900300The imperials have a cope heaven called "the emperor's table". Not confirmed to exist so far I think.
>>96900306Does this outfit provide adequate protection from Melta rounds?
>>96900138>That's impact Blank quality of life how?If you think everyone around you irrationally treating you like shit isn't going to affect your life in any way, I have bad news for you.
>>96900326There are no meltas in the Crucibael.
>>96900326just don't get hit
>>96900326She literally just dodges everything. Lelith is insanely fast and untouchable at close range.
>>96900306It's actually been described somewhat via AoS. Each individual soul is blasted with such crushing sensation that it strips them of all thought and memories except abject terror and dread within an undending dimension of pressure and screaming.So imagine if you were tied to the ground and waterboarded by an eternal hurricane of rain and glass shards while hearing the screams of millions of other people similarly being tortured without end. At some point it all becomes a shadowed blur as you forget everything and just join the screaming masses in agony.
>>96900355Sounds like that one thing in berserk, I think it was the concept of evil? Sounds radical.
Rolled 4 (1d6)>>96900353>4++Lets see if she dodges the melta that wounded her on 2+
>>96900362Damn elf lives to dodge again...
>>96900306>AoS you can still reclaim those souls from Slaanesh quite easily.Hog-tying her down with divinely forged S&M chains and forcing her to vomit like a bulimic 14 year old girl is probably not all that easy. Even if the kinky slut (probably) went along with it willingly because, yes, she even gets off of that.
>>96899347>Emperor was trying to guide as much of humanity possible into the webway where they could then evolve to become similiar beings that he was.What does that mean? He expected all of mankind to evolve into perpetuals or something like that?
>>96900389>Even if the kinky slut (probably) went along with it willingly because, yes, she even gets off of that.Following the End Times, Slaanesh got his hands on literally every Elf who died when the world ended and it made her so absurdly strong that Khorne and Tzeentch even called a truce and (secretly) helped the Tyrion and Malelith chain him up in what was essentially a food coma.Even then the bindings were delicate as hell, and when Morathi pulled her petty bullshit it woke Slaanesh up and she's been slipping out of the bindings ever since.It's also worth noting that if this sort of thing was attempted in 40k the results would likely be disastrous, as souls that spend too long within Slaanesh suffer permanent lasting damage that deforms them and any physical shape they take.In fact Slaanesh could probably spit out some of the older Eldar souls and toss them into realspace as deformed minor Daemons, before they die and get devoured all over again.
>>96900407It makes less sense the more you think about it. Better to just accept it just goes on vibes.
Do I paint or goon tonight?
If the emperor made the primarchs to be generals as replacements for the perpetuals who left him, then are the perpetuals superior to the custodes and perhaps even to the primarchs?Also, do primarchs really have eternal life considering how Lion aged? Aren't custodes supposed to have eternal life? Did the emperor make custodes with eternal life and primarchs without it?
>>96900059>Only if you have skill issueThat's your fanfiction.In a universe where souls exist and are a natural component of reality, removing them is bad.But of course you can't understand that because you lack soul.
>>96900495Goon for the red head already happening
Everyone's striking cool poses up until the genestealers come and grab them.
>>96900407More or less.Or more like he wanted humanity to evolve into god-like psychic übermensch who don't need to fear the predation of Chaos.How he is or, was, going to achieve that is anyone's guess.
>>96900367Elf bitches are no joke!
>>96900415>In fact Slaanesh could probably spit out some of the older Eldar souls and toss them into realspace as deformed minor Daemons, before they die and get devoured all over again.I wouldn’t be surprised if some Slaaneshi Daemons actually are pre-Fall Eldar souls.
Goku solos Warhammer
>>96900535I always wanted Chaos Eldar.
>>96897318Leg warmer? Which models you referring too here?
>>96900528>he wanted humanity to evolve into god-like psychic übermensch who don't need to fear the predation of Chaos.Psychics superior even to the Eldar before the fall? Because even the Eldar need to fear the predation of chaos.
>>96900552Maybe he means those new EC models which have that leather or human skin that's stretched over their power armor legs sometimes?
>>96900543he doesn't have enough holes to take all the 40000 warhammers
>>96900558>Psychics superior even to the Eldar before the fall?Well yeah. Emperor is basically even more powerful than that.Evidenced by the fact that the Emperor can just erase daemons from existance, like completely erase them, across all space and time. And said daemons which are just shards of their respective gods, erase enough shards and the god is erased as well.It's one of the reasons why the chaos gods fear him and why they deliberately interfered with the Great Crusade and then orchestrated the Heresy.
>>96900535>>96900549Confession time; I use AoS Blood Sisters as Possessed to represent Chaos Eldar allied with my Word Bearers, along with a slightly altered Lord of Hubris to act as their Master of Possession. I should really get around to finishing them up.
heh
>>96900534Nurgles Garden is just Brazil
>>96900588I thought Big E was gung ho about the heresy. Have been meme'd?>>96900596That's pretty cool
>>96900596I wish they had more holo tables. Easter eggy or not.
>>96900506A unwanted outgrowth of my mind that attracts parasites to feed on me isn't a "soul". Cutting it or changing it to repel parasites only makes sense, doing otherwise is retarded.
>>96900558>>96900588Big E was atrong but if he tried to tango with the Eldar Empire he was going to get royally fucked in the ass, and I mean that literally. Old Eldar could think stars into existence and were literally incapable of being perma-killed without theleir consent.God help the Emperor if Asuryan got involved.
>>96900588Is the average perpetuum also superior to the average Eldar?>>96900625I mean on an individual-to-individual level, not one against an army.
>>96900641A regular run of the mill Eldar citizen would not have the training to actively use their psychic abilities in combat, for them it's more a case of enhanced empathy bordering on telepathy.Anyone actively trained in psychic combat would likely be able to Mind War the Emperor into timeout for a while.
Why didn't the Orks fall to chaos while the Eldar did? Why are Orks so resistant to chaos?
>>96900588asurmen can do that too
>>96900661Orks were reduced to scattered fringe warbands whose only thoughts were on smashing whatever they could in order to get food and loot. They genuinely could not think on a hihh enough level to fall to Chaos.
>>96900618>>96900506
>>96900661because orks created two gods who balance each other out instead of one god that would devour them all like all civilisations that fall to chaos do.orks are in balance, for them the great struggle has been won.they aren't whole in other areas though.
>>96900675Really? Where was this stated? Sounds OP for an Eldar.
>>96900692>>96900059
>>96900709his book. permakilling daemons isn't even that rare, all daemons can do it to each other. >Daemons do not feel fear. They do not feel anything that we might consider emotion. They are emotion. A daemon is hate, desire and rage all congealed into things that want nothing more than to burn the mortal world that created them. They don’t fear any more than a fish drowns. But rules and rivalries run through every mote of their existence, unbreakable and undeniable. And because of that nature there are things that even they cannot bear. There are things which, if they were mortal, we would say terrify them. I could banish the daemon. I could bind it for aeons, but both those were not threat enough. So instead I was going to give this daemon to another of its kind. I was going to let its essence be consumed by its antithesis. I was going to feed it to a daemon of decay. ^gates of ruindying near a psychic blank or a necron pylon also kills daemons
Hey, since the angel that the emperor created before the primarchs wanted to exterminate humanity because they were susceptible to chaos, wouldn't that mean he would have nothing against blanks since they are not susceptible to chaos? Maybe he would even like them considering that they are in a way anti-chaos. Or would he hate them too because of their blank aura that makes people hate them?
>>96900730Asurman has a book? Huh.
>>96900736dunno, go ask /homo heretica general/
>>96900750it's gav thorpe so it's not very good but you get some pre-fall eldar society stuff in it and teenager jain zar (who also has her own mid book)
>>96900750Yes, in the first chapter he gets killed by orbital bombardment.
>>96900725that says absolutely nothing
>>96900653>Anyone actively trained in psychic combat would likely be able to Mind War the Emperor into timeout for a while.Eldar before the fall were stronger than Krorks in a one-on-one fight?
>>96900811we know jack shit about war in heaven bullshit or prefall bullshit, and power levels are all fake and gay
>>96900653>bordering on telepathy>borderingEvery single one of them can do telepathy.
Why does Abaddon have that ridiculous hairstyle? Do people honestly think it looks cool instead of just making him look like a clown?
I like the iron warriors.
>>96900856He's just denying his male pattern baldness
>>96900863>hh shit no, you don't actually like the iron warriors
>>96900811Physically no, but in terms of Psykers absolutely, and their Psychic advantagr vastly outclassed the Krorks' physical advantage.
>>96900328Would that matter if all of humanity became blanks? Wouldn't that eliminate this problem?
>>96900856Topknots were adopted early in the history of Warhammer in part because they are relatively simple to sculpt and in part because they add som verticality to a model's silhouette. And unlike a helmet or a full head of loose hair they don't obscure any of the minuscule facial features sculpted on the miniature.
I've written down my recipe for my army.
>>96900810It does: Needing """souls""" is for the weak.
Lore power level jerk offs kind of make me miss poopdick schtizo posting
>>96900878Are blanks immune to each other?
>>96900934Both are awful. Best threads are always modelfag threads
>>96900931>whole history of the faction is lashing out after selling your soul because you found out having a soul was important all along
>>96900588>And said daemons which are just shards of their respective gods, erase enough shards and the god is erased as well.So... why just stay on earth and zap shards for a few millenia until there are no chaos gods instead of the reddit atheism plan? Imperiumfags tell me the Emperor has the biggest brain to be smart with.
oh the threads got split againcan you fucks just use one thread please im begging you
>>96901054It totally screws shit up, god damn I hate the throodmeister
>>96901054No, I'm not using your gay ass thread, throoder.
>>96901054it's not split, the vtumor thread is just to be ignored
>>96901005>Whole history of the faction is lashing out after selling your souls because of skill issue.I choose the pick because it's cool and it's a Pariah. Necrons are still retarded for whining about their souls.
>>96901081>>96901089Report the excess threads for spamming thenIt's so annoying when that's the first one on the board and this is buried on page 8
>>96901096I have been, bitch at the jannies for not doing their job. Granted it's probably one of those troons thoording any ways.
>>96901115maybe you need to come to terms with the fact that it's not a rulebreak because you don't like the OP image
>>96886624>>96886624>>96886624Just use this one instead of making a new one
>>96901163no, fuck off
>>96901122shut up vtroon, we know it's you
>>96901180Most of you will use vandalized ones with malicious links with no problem but this retard makes one and you snub your nose lmaoJannies can you please sort this out and ban the throoder or something
>>96901180Nope, keep crying though~
>>96901197>but this retard makes one a"this retard" is you, don't pretend otherwise, we all know it
>>96901211>wejust (you)
Vahl my beloved
>>96901231I still think it's a missed opportunity that the joystick that controls the gun doesn't also have a gun built into itTwice the shooting
>>96901253What even is the purpose of having the arms exposed if they can't operate independently? It's be more fun if the suit had big arms for big weapons and the user could use their own arms for something else, rather than just mimicking the movement of the big weapons. Feels like they'd get in the way, especially in close combat. Say you're grappling with some big monster and it pins one of your arms. Even if the suit's arm is free, it's now disabled because you can't move your own arm.
>>96901253No functionality left, the joysticks also control the suit's in-builts vibrators.
>>96901332I understand the zeal of SoB nowFull sexual release as you kill. Must be incredible
>>96901231Trash, sororitas in general are also so trash. I wished they would all be slaughtered at once.
>>96901328been said a billion times, I can't stand them either and I HATE how essential the warsuits are in just about every list.
The other thread is an imposter trying to slander my good name.
>>96901361Explains the persistent humming sounds when ever they perform acts of faith.
>>96901328It’s likely based off Ripley’s suit from the Aliens movie where she killed the Queen. Would be in line with old lore where Power Armor was work equipment from the DAoT before it was used for war.
>>96901408stop trying to make every fucking thread about yourself you fucking redditor faggot
y'know if i didn't know any better i'd think these thread wars were an attempt to kill these threads
>>96901388I *wish they would all be slaughtered at once.
>>96901431That's not the old lorethe old lore is ONE mark of terminator armor was originally heavy loading equipment
My new dreadnought. Was hoping to show of a RT runtherd too but he didn't arrive yet. Can't wait to do some freehand on the banner.
What's going on with the threadsare we moving or is someone going to make a new one
Necrons are the strongest faction ( just temporarily dormant but quickly awakening) and realistically the most likely to win.
>>96901231What an ugly and unappealing woman.
>>96901431Looks more like the suits from Appleseed.
>>96901484just move, if the jannies see a new thread being made when there's one up under bump limit and not vandalized they're gonna nuke the newer one
>>96901447OG terminators were exo-suits meant for hazardous environments that got weaponized. Today I don't know what the lore is thanks to Saturnine suits being terminators, but closer to dreadnoughts, requiring psykers and both being in service during the Unification Wars AND acquired from Saturn (which would've been during early Crusade).
>>96901253they are very dumb but i like it anywayI like hers more than the other warsuits.I think the wider cloth covering the thighs breaks it up a bit more
>>96901555Sadly that's no longer true.It's happened 4 or 5 times the last two weeks that someone makes a new thread with removed links, someone makes one with the regular links and both stay up.>>96886624 has been up for two days now
>>96901579the one you quoted has nothing removed?
