How petty and cruel are the gods in your games?
>>96950726That's not petty that's justified
>>96950735>balding and malding
>>96950735You sound bald
>>96950726Why is god like this
>>96950825He loves His norwoods.
>>96950726My chaotic evil gods want only to destroy all matter in the universe. I wouldn't quite call it petty, but it is entirely cruel.
>>96950735t. bald
>>96950726lmaooo
>>96950735>all these repliesYou see anon, haircels can dish it but the moment you dish it back at them (by using the raw power of faith to summon bears to maul them to death) they cower. God stands with His righteous baldies.
>>96950925
>>96950925>he thinks god wants a hairless head when the Tonsure is the holiest of holy hairstyles.To the tyburn tree with you, heretic
>>96950748>>96950786>>96950909>>96950943>>96950952*kills you with bears*
>>96950726very
>>96950952>he isn't naturally tonsured due to his high T (GodTosterone) levelsngmi
>>96950726Bahahahahahahaha
>>96950726The more petty and cruel the gods are, the more like giant-sized humans they are, the better it makes the game.A thing I usually do in my games is to have a God's direct nemesis be a valid target no matter the circumstances. For instance, the God of Justice is all about righteous conduct...But when it comes to his asshole brother, the laws of war don't apply. You are 100% free to My Lai the enemy god's punk-ass worshippers. The more you kill, the happier your patron deity is. That way, you can unleash the good ol' ultraviolence and still get pats on the back.
>>96950726>gives his creations free will>shits on them when they employ it>doesn't even have the excuse of watching to see how it plays out, as he already knows the futureAny petty or cruel gods aren't really gods, they're just pretenders.
>>96953392Have we not considered that it's really, really funny?
>>96953406So were the wedgies those jocks gave you (to them (not (You)))
>>96950895>achieving gnosis>evilDemiurge pls...
>>96950825They were not actually kids, the history is a bit more complex than that... but still is really funny.
>>96950726This is so weird.
>>96950726Incredibly petty and cruel, but they're constantly checking one another and can't afford to be distracted. Say, if the god of meat diverts their attention to send bears after some dudes who prepared steaks in a blasphemous way, it would leave an opening for the god of famine to toss a meteor at the meat god's main temple in the meanwhile.
>>96950961and you sir are extremely bald
If Zeus or Odin send two bears to maul children (and rest assured, they did much worse things in their mythologies) everyone would scream about how awesome paganism is and how cucked Christianity is
>>96954201christians would use an example of Odin sending bears to maul children who mocked his champion as bald as an example of pagan savagery at best and call it satanic sorcery perverting nature at worst
>>96954201>they did much worse things in their mythologiesLying Semitic.>how cucked Christianity isIt is. Imagine worshipping a deranged alien storm deity dreamt up by inbred schizophrenic tribal neurotics from the desert.
>>96950726Unrelated but what makes this picture so much better is that THEY COULD and KNEW how to draw better. They just chose not to because they were so full of their own righteousness that they thought making anything pretty would be a sin.
>>96950726Look, asking the Lord to "help me bear their insolent mockey" is ambiguous and easily misunderstood.
>>96950726hairtards really haven't recovered from this one, have they?
>>96954201Zeus would probably think that's hilarious and join in on bullying the bald man.Then ask the children who their mothers is and go check her out.
>>96950726This one is still laughing
>>96950735>that's justifiedI can see your bald spot despite the kippah.
>>96950952tonsure is literally just styling your bald spot
>>96961002Hey, if you are getting punished anyways, might as well go down swinging.
>>96954201>if they DID do this(they didn’t)…. Kay
>>96950726Most monster races were created when all the Chaotic gods cursed each others followers.
>>96950735Your bald is showing
I’m tired of pretending that God isn’t a bigger asshole than Satan. Or rather he has the capacity to be.
>>96963452...lick it...
varies by god.The god of farms, roads, and wine? cool guy. The goddess of storms and music? rather petty. God of torture and slavery? huuuuge dickhead
>>96965915Yes, that's exactly what the bible says I want you to think.
>>96968045Christians get angry when I point out how demonic God is, tho.
>>96950726The major deities all, without exception, have a vested interest in saving mortals. Damnation is the default end-state of immortal souls because they essentially fall into a giant soul-pit where emotions and memories all blend together into a schizophrenic mass. It's not a punishment, that's just what happens to souls naturally.The gods all see this as a huge htreat. If that gigantic tortured soul-ocean ever breaks containment it would be trouble. So, their efforts to save humanity are both self-serving and in some cases also motivated by benevolence. The problem being that the gods have finite power, they can only pluck souls from the cascade into Hell if they have a certain level of resonance with what they are and represent. The gods don't represent things innately, they develop their reputation for those things because the resonance they have happens to coincide with that. God of Harvest? Doesn't actually know what harvests are, has never seen wheat, is a god. But for whatever reason humans cultivating wheat makes them resonate to him, he visibly favors the ones who resonate to encourage it, they spread ideas of the harvest god. Etc. This always turns into a game of chinese whispers though because the gods generally can't actually communicate information well, they can only signal vibes. Holy wars and inquisitions and such sometimes serve an actual purpose, but just as often are miscommunications or failures to understand what is going on. Moreover the gods are not omniscient and many cannot even "see" the mortal realm clearly, relying on incomplete information. Maybe the god can only "see" when something valuable breaks, so vibes to its worshippers that if they want to pray they need to smash something precious first. Maybe they can only "see" through someone's eyes if they've never had sex, so it encourages celibacy.The gods also mostly believe they're the only god and few have any way of communicating with or observing each other.
>>96950735Go on up, you baldhead.
>>96950726That bitch can call up god to off some children like an insecure mafioso, but can't get god to miracle up some hair?
>96954201>every other faith falls under the umbrella slur "paganism"Back at you, desert cultist.
>>96969447The common belief in-setting is that the gods are at war with each other for worshippers, because worshippers give the gods power. This is the exact opposite of the truth, if it weren't for humanity and the Hell their souls create the gods would be solipsistic jellyfish floating around in their private dimensions having a great time, but they can't do that with a giant screaming abyss of damned souls growing ever larger in the background. So the gods are not petty at all (pettiness is a purely human attribute, requires social instincts) but things they do may SEEM petty. They are trying to solve a mechanistic problem the best way they can--if you can only save people who do/don't do X thing, you are going to tell people to do/not to do X thing even if it's horrific or pointless or serves no other function.On the mortal side, powerful magic users (the Party) have been trying to backtrace these divine forces on the suspicion that there are no gods, just strange metaphysical laws. Imagine their surprise when they reach the end and encounter the Jellyfish God of Freckles, Nofap and Cooking and he starts screaming because he's never seen a physical object before.Suffice to say this has been a great campaign.
>>96969518Actually the Levant is mostly coniferous and sclerophyllic woodlands and garrigues.
>>96950726While this is based, sadly the tale is a mistranslation. The idea of it being "children" comes from the Hebrew word for unmarried men, Naharim, and Khtanim, which means "small." What it actually means is "low status men." So the actual story is that a gang of low-status Jewish youths (a mob of ruffians) told a prophet to fuck off and made fun of him and were then mauled by bears for violating the covenant. This is an understandable mistake since the whole thing was translated into Greek first, then the Vulgate in Latin, and then later into whichever language you speak (German in the case of the artist) and some of the nuance is lost along the way.
>>96969636That's only SLIGHTLY okay'er.You still have some insecure bald warlock calling down grim and miserable death on a bunch of people who did nothing terribly wrong. Are you the kind of person that'd just go around stabbing every homeless bum that shouts at you from across the street if not for consequence? You need Jesus.
The current batch of them don't pay humanity any special mind, but their actions to remake the world that got turbo fucked by the prior batch being the root cause of the ragnarok-esq event that birthed them, are mostly horrifically dangerous/ detrimental to what humans survived everything going to shit. The earliest of the new gods, want to finish the job on humanity cause they're a remnant of the old god's rule, which caused the world to become a hellscape due to abusing their divine authority and shit. One of them, who is a congealed mass of blood, armor and weapons that thinks they were a mortal warrior who obtained divinity by being the last survivor of the final battle where all the old war, battle and similar gods looked at all the shit that was happening and went "Eh, why not go out with a bang" and stage dived into the legions of god eating monsters. They aren't, but rather the newborn god of strife/ defiance that merely absorbed the memories of every man who died in that doomed last stand and got gaslit into think they were once a human. This god actually tries to protect humanity from all the bullshit, which either draws the ire or confusion of the other new gods, who don't understand why this weirdo doesn't just make his own, new breed of worshippers rather than throwing an autistic fit whenever they accidentally catch a few of his "flock" in their renovation plans.The gods who want humanity gone especially hate the guy cause he, due to the nature of his "birth" is one of the strongest, and could probably bring some stability to the world, if he actively hunted the things that ate the old gods rather than messing around with the puny mortals who keep dying the moment he takes his eyes off of him
>>96969648They did not just make fun of him, they attempted to drive the prophet Elisha off from the City of Bethel (modern Beitin) which is notorious for being the place where Jews did the Golden Calf heresy two seperate times. In the Old Testament, Jews who violate the covenant always get it really hard.Also he didn't send the bears, he just cursed them generically, God then sent bears because it's a 2/2 for 2 and that's enough to kill an Angry Mob.
>>96960799fpbp
>>96969692>"They attempted to drive a prophet out!">"THEY CALLED HIM BALDY, DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND HOW TERRIFYING THAT IS!?"I take it back. you don't need Jesus, you need a spine.
>>96950726The more powerful the god, the more distant it is.As devoid of malice as it is compassion, such a god is more a force of nature than someone to be communictaed with, directly. Intermediaries such as saints/angels et.c. are needed.Lesser gods are more meddlesome and petty. And so are their cultists.
>>96950735
You ALL need Jesus
>>96950726I could totally see some of the Forgotten Realms deities being that petty. Umberlee, Lolth... or even Malar (but the bears would also maul the prophet because, well, Malar).
>>96971181The namecalling wasn't the issue, it was a gang of men shouting at the prophet to get out--that they called him bald was not the issue.
>>96971755Actually I need lolth
>>96971755No thanks, I intend to remain uncircumcised in all possible ways.
>>96950726The Chaotic and Evil gods can be very petty and cruel, while the Lawful and Good gods are hardly at all.
>>96950825He's also bald>>96960799Alright that wasn't bad
>>96969550God just need to build the wall and make Hell pay for it. Also why not try to purify the Hell then?
All gods are dicks if they see themselves as gods lol
>>96950925Offer void if Samson
>>96950726You'd think it would be easier just to grow him some hair
>>96950735fpbp
>>96950726Waking up to shop for your replacements right in front of you while you still exist (even if you are still a few steps away from causing your own extinction).For you, it's a betrayal and more competition to deal with. To the God? Rinse and Repeat.
Something close to Rick's feelings about Morty.
The god of mischief in my setting masquerades as a god of happenstance and gifts. He isn't petty in the slightest, and loves giving presents to those that do odd jobs for him, or for charitable works if he disguises himself as a beggar or something. The gifts he gives are almost always pilfered from the personal stores of the other gods. THEY are the petty ones.He'll usually help the players out of their predicaments, though. Usually.
Bald people are evil
>>96950726Funniest thing I’ve seen in a while
>>96950735>>96981180First post baldest post
>>96989722Kek
>>96968042>God of torture and slavery? huuuuge dickhead>Look Pal, I just work here.
>>96950735Quick question, how long did it take you to realize the lens flare in your photos wasn't because of the camera?
>>96989722?
>>96995741You wouldn’t get it because you’re bald
>>96998884?
>>96950726No matter how bald you are, the gods of the Vikings know one god who is balder.
>>96950726
>>96954201Not an atheist or a redditor but the reason people get hung up on God smiting kids for bullying a C tier old testament prophet but not on Zeus's aggravated kidnapping of a twink or endlessly torturing Prometheus and Sisyphus is because God (especially the new testament christian God) is supposed to be a benevolent and merciful creator not a wrathful and megalomaniac god with an autistic fixation on Eagles and Ganymede's thighs
>>96954201fucker the culture war is a comercial to rot your brain and it is enforced by all politicians. yes especially the ones who arent part of any legal process and just pay elected officials to do what they want.terry pratchet was handing out even handed mythological takedowns since before you learned to stop shitting yourself (he said optimistically)
>>97003287Lul
>>97003287Amazing
>>96960799Hehe
>>97003287Mental illness
>>96950726"God is Good" they say...
>>96954201lmao you got the larpagans and atheists (same thing, really) mad
>>97003661>terry pratchet>even handedyeah he was completely unbiased regarding his political/religious beliefs irl and in his writings
>>97019286yes he was actually. The best written paladin in fiction outside of LOTR was written by him and Pratchett made it pretty blatant that the god he was serving was good and their cause was just.
>>96950726An accurate reading of 2 Kings 23-24, in its context and understanding the Hebrew, renders the "children" as young men, called immature in the same way that ignorant men are in Scripture. Likewise, it isn't that they're simply mocking Elisha's baldness, they say to him "Go up, you bald head!" - "Go up!" being a direct reference to how Elijah, Elisha's predecessor, was taken up to Heaven. Elisha comes telling them to give up their idolatry and they respond by telling him to kill himself. And so, because God is not mocked, and because they're impugning His prophet and rejecting His word, he sends a couple bears to maul them. As is Just. In conclusion, be less of a retarded redditor in the future.
>>97019505I still think its funny that people draw him with a huge round bald head though.
>>97019505The Church Fathers shouldn't have included the Old Testament. Gnostics had it right, the OT is just a bunch of yids worshipping the Demiurge.
>>97019505>in its context and understanding the Hebrew, renders the "children" as young menA blatant lie. With the prefix "small", as it has in the context, it means a boy aged 10-14.
>>97019352Nah, he was an English writer in the 80s. His default mode of thinking was hardcore, evangelical atheism and nihilism, a far cry from "unbiased" and "even handed">b-b-but he wrote a p-paladin this one time...He wrote what in his mind was the ideal religious man serving an ideal religion serving an ideal god. The rest of the time he wrote religious characters and gods as bumbling, petty retards.
>>97019505low tier god meets a old testament prophet.
>>97003628Enjoy pushing rocks in Tartaros.
>>97020862But enough about YHWH losing to Iron chariots!
>>96950726>Petty>Being a bro and standing up for his dawgPick one.
>>97019826That's a young man in old testament times.
>>96950726Well, all but one of them used to be normal humans. On top of that, almost none of them achieved their position and powers through merit. What they lack in power and reach, they more than make up for in asinine, childish pettiness.
>>97019505We got another seething bald person!
>>97023962Yeah, in a filthy, primitive age where people don't live past 50, I wonder where the bar is for "young". Whether they're 10 year old dumbass children or 16 year old dumbass teenagers or 26 year old dumbass men though, the guy still used his evil devil magic to murder a bunch of people for being obnoxious. Not a terribly christ-like reason to kill a kid.
>>97025963It's not your place to judge the creator's moralitynot throwing bears at obnoxious kids might as well land you in hell
>>97026036I'm gonna go ahead and just MAKE IT my place to judge middle eastern gods of the shit-dwelling sand-people. the superstitions of savages are petty and trite and reflect the meagre desires and vision of a people that don't know where the sun goes at night, so OF COURSE their god has all of the same obsessions and values, wisdom and maturity of a saudi goat fucker.
>>97019505So, they were just 4channing IRL?
God damn it God
>>96950726>>96950825Of note, context matters a LOT here, it's not for mocking him for his baldness, it was for telling him to go die like his master just did, making fun of his alleged claim that his master did not die at all but was carried away to heaven still living, which they of course did not believe.The baldness commenting was just to also imply he was a literal leper, you know, for added spite. More likely, given his comparatively young age, any baldness he had was either tonsure or more likely due to grief sheering a la Job, even if he was carried away alive he still lost his closest friend and ally, basically second dad, days ago.So they were insulting and accusing of chicanery (and likely threatening, also based on context) two of Yahweh's prophets, and Yahweh himself, in addition to calling him untouchably diseased. And their reason for such animosity is that Bethel was a primary city of the new Ba'al religion, one of the two cities with a big golden calf statue. His master had, 27 years prior, killed 450 of their priests after what can only be described as a one-sided miracle-off, constantly fucked with the weather, and generally made a nuisance of himself telling them how awful they were for changing religions. And now Elisha was visible following in his footsteps, having literally taken up his mantle, origin of the phrase.It should also be noted that the exact Hebrew phrasing is less children and more like "young men" at least how it's used elsewhere (1st kings uses it to describe a 20 year old, albeit who is diminutizing himself in humility). So like, not Grown-Ass Men but solidly a gang-recruitable age. He was being rolled up on by a posse of at least 42 young thugs, possibly more if some escaped the bears, yelling that he was an un-person non grata who needed to go join his newly dead predecessor, and probably had intent to force the matter.
>>97030450Plus, as part of the warlock-ass deal the Israelites struck with Yahweh in Leviticus 26, it literally says as part of the curse for idolatry that he will send wild animals to kill their kids, among several other severe unpleasantries. It wasn't even fine print, he literally made them repeat the boons and penalties back and forth to each other from on top two mountains that are like half a mile apart at the base.Real moral of the story: Don't make race pacts with powerful spirits, kids. It doesn't matter how good the blessings are. Jews have had a rough time of things since the Abrahamic contract, and basically can not catch a break since the Mosaic one. "Amazing fortune, but we're fucked 8 ways from Sabbath if we ever break the terms" was a blindly greedy, horrible, horrible mistake to agree to, especially if they had no intent of actually upholding their end of the bargain.
You're all bald deep down.
>>97030459so in other words Jews are the dark elves.
>>96954201Most people point at that to show how dumb gods in mythology can be
>>97031530Tieflings might be more appropriate.Forge a legally-coded binding and inescapable racial pact with entity, that involves unmistakable bodily marking. Commit cultic genocides and frequent blood sacrifices in its name for blessings. Receive harsh cataclysms and callous temporary abandonments as punishments. It achieves godhood and revolutionizes its cult so you're no longer its only followers, meanwhile your own frequent scheming has shown you to be unreliable so obsolete no glorious empire for you, become a diaspora reviled in most countries, that's technically not okay to be prejudiced against but like, people can just read your own historical writings to know what you're about and that doesn't usually end in a positive opinion, not to mention some of you are still honoring the thing what told you to go around killing people and gouging open rams throats so you can burn the corpse in a show of devotion, and one of your most culturally important holidays, even to the non-practicing secular, is about the time it sent 10 deity scale warcrimes on your enemy back to back, but kindly spared you because you smeared blood all over your doors.Lolth, there's no pact. If you're a dark elf, she fucks with you, because she thinks its funny and builds character, that's the end of it. Praying to Lolth is like praying to Crom. you just don't. If you have her attention, fates help you it better be because you're impressing her with how much of a powerful conniving successful you can be.Unless you mean elder scrolls dark elves in which case, maybe? I only have a passing knowledge of their lore and all of it from AI Dagoth Ur banter memes.
>>97030450>His master had, 27 years prior, killed 450 of their priests after what can only be described as a one-sided miracle-off, constantly fucked with the weather, and generally made a nuisance of himself telling them how awful they were for changing religions.That is badass>He was being rolled up on by a posse of at least 42 young thugs, possibly more if some escaped the bearsSo it was a low key PLAGUE of BEARS? That's upping the plague game
>>97030450This is the best and in depth explanation of this quick moment in scripture I have seen. Christ bless you, Anon.
>>97025963People have lied to you about how long ancient peoples lived.
You’d have to be an actual dick to consider yourself a god in godly terms
>>97034059Explicitly 2 female bears slew explicitly 42 angry hoodlums.https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/2%20Kings%202%3A24Yes, that's some real 100 men vs 1 gorilla shit.The only explanation is a heavier exercise of divine intervention than merely summoning 2 bears. Were the boys divinely compelled to fight the bears to the man instead of flee, the way God expressly artificially hardened Pharaoh's heart so that he stayed resolute even in the face of total devastation of his country?Were the bears inhumanly (un-bear-ably?) buffed to move at lightning speeds and ruthless ferocity?Exact details aren't given. Personally, I like to imagine the story as he did the later option, by opening the console and typing "OCANADA" twice.
>>97030450>OT God needed to summon bears to murder dudes who were worshipping a false idol and threatening his prophet.Yeah I don't believe this dude is the same all-powerful, all-good God of Christianity. That's his best solution? Couldn't he have made Elisha incapable of being harmed, thus allowing him to give the heathen hoodlums a chance to repent, to see the true light of the true God? This just reads like ancient canaanite religious warfare. Dude's own "chosen people" make that one make sense btw, gatekeeping salvation to one tribe of people don't even listen to him half the time. Don't get me wrong Jesus was a cool dude and I'm not some pussy pacifist, sell your cloak and all that. But the Old Testament is a load of crap and even in the New Testament I don't fully believe that God is all-powerful at least.
>>97038090>Yeah I don't believe this dude is the same all-powerful, all-good God of Christianity.Oh very much no.He lost to iron chariots in Judges 1."If god is for us who is against us"Apparently anyone with late bronze-early iron age cavalry or above, Paul. I thought you were a scholar of the Torah, did Gamaliel not teach you that one?Not to mention the whole thing with Chemosh in 2 Kings 3. Apparently enemy gods can interfere with his plans. We even have historical record tablets of the Moabite side of that battle. They basically read like a chapter of judges "our god was mad at us so he let the israelites oppress us, but we repented and he helped us beat them." kind of hilarious to see the shoe on the other foot.Oh and Ezekiel's prophecies against Tyre and Egypt that Babylon would be used to punish them so severely they would cease to exist. Guess he forgot about that one, because by Daniel's captivity he's singing an entirely different tune, probably because by the time of its writing, assuming it was even written concurrently with events, his great castigating conqueror had been dead 23 years by that point.I have strong personal reason to believe in the supernatural, but I have hard scriptural evidence to believe that, if he is real at all, whatever spirit the Israelites pledged themselves to is in no way an all-powerful, all-just, omnibenevolent creator of all as he claims. And i can't imagine anything good making that kind of claim falsely.
>>96950726yhe bald man is the moon, the children are the stars surrounding the starsigns of the big and little bear
>>96950735Hairless post
>>97038439>jews lose favor with God>God doesn't interfere on their behalf and actually aids their more pious enemies>"uuuhm, like, God lost to chariots o algo"
>>96950726Medieval people were so dramatic
>>97040972You're combining two situations but1. he literally told them to wipe out the people with the iron chariots. "Hey go kill those people for their paganry so you can have their land of Canaan, I will support you"They proceed to kill like 85% of them, but get hard walled by superior tech in the valleys.If you won't support someone literally obeying your commands, when can you ever be relied on for support? So either he's unreliable or unable, neither is a good look for an allegedly all-knowing, all-powerful, all-just omnibenevolent entity.Especially ironic because he had just punished them for 40 solid years for not believing him that he could enable them to take Canaan the first time they got there. "Oh you don't think I can do it huh? Alright, I'm turning this car around, everybody back out into the desert, you're gonna walk in circles until all of you are dead and i'll try it again with your kids."And then their kids try and lo and behold, those dead unbelievers were partially right.2. the Chemosh incident generations later during suppression of the moabite rebellion, human sacrifice to a pagan god is not the judeo-christian definition of "more pious." That's frequently the reason FOR the smiting.And again, Yahweh had fully promised them ahead of time that he had their back, quote "This is an easy thing in the eyes of the Lord." In fact, he had fully promised them that aid, IN SPITE of their current sinful status, because a good king was part of the coalition and he wanted to protect that guy at least. So it's not a "well what if the Israelites sinned and lost favor," like that was a given before he even agreed.Really interesting thing, the prophet to convey this approval is Elisha, mr bear summoner from OP. It's literally the very next chapter. When they go to consult him his initial response is "Well why don't you ask those beloved Ba'al prophets of yours, see what they tell you?" They tell him Yahweh was the one who told them to assemble.
>>96950735>>96950925>>96950961>t. Asks Hairy god to mawl hairchads with hairy bears because his bald ass can't do shitlmao
>>97037995Maybe they were in like, an alley or something and one bearess showed up on each end. >Heard you were talkin' shit about cueball like God wouldn't find out
>>97045251it says they came out to meet him from their town to meet him on the road there. They were intercepting him from coming.but fair, they still could have been flanked.
>>96950726kek
>>96950735Bald.
>>97031749>Unless you mean elder scrolls dark elves in which case, maybe?Dunmer do take a bit of obvious inspiration from Jews, but also from the other half of Semitic menace and from the Japanese of all things.
Rub a wizard’s bald spot and you get a free wish. Too bad for you there is always a fire spitting toad hiding underneath their pointy hats, sitting on said bald spot.
>>96950726The stuff that they do is on such a scale that it's hard to calculate. There's certainly less room for pettiness than you would think, given that so much is beneath even the pettiest among them.
>>96950735Something you want to admit to the class anon?
>>97030450I wonder if it was more like 8 or so, but the bears being bears just kept on killing for a couple more hours. Then after it was all over 42 people were mauled.
everyone loves the bear scene in Reverend Insanity though
>>97030459>>97031530It was mentioned a number of times in Exodus, Numbers, and Leviticus, the Hebrews did not just decide to worship some new deity or invent a religion. Moses actually did discover some major outsider and made a full-on blood pact with him, then led the Hebrews to do the same. >Then he took the Book of the Covenant and read it to the people. They responded, ‘We will do everything the Lord has said; we will obey.’ Moses then took the blood, sprinkled it on the people and said, ‘This is the blood of the covenant that the Lord has made with you in accordance with all these words.>If you fully obey the Lord your God and carefully follow all his commands I give you today, the Lord your God will set you high above all the nations on earth. 2 All these blessings will come on you and accompany you if you obey the Lord your God:>The Lord will establish you as his holy people, as he promised you on oath, if you keep the commands of the Lord your God and walk in obedience to him. 10 Then all the peoples on earth will see that you are called by the name of the Lord, and they will fear you. > However, if you do not obey the Lord your God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come on you and overtake you:>The Lord will send on you curses, confusion and rebuke in everything you put your hand to, until you are destroyed and come to sudden ruin because of the evil you have done in forsaking him.[a] 21 The Lord will plague you with diseases until he has destroyed you from the land you are entering to possess. 22 The Lord will strike you with wasting disease, with fever and inflammation, with scorching heat and drought, with blight and mildew, which will plague you until you perish.
>>97038439I think it's later interpretations seeing the commandment to the Israelites>I am YOUR only God!to mean>I am THE only God!Bringing people to the monotheist concept. when the first commandment was that the Hebrews were to never follow any other god but him. It was not a statement that there is no other god but him.
>>96950726the cruelest
>>9705364710/10 post
>>96953392exactly
>>96950825Jewish vindictiveness at work.
>>97053647>Rub a wizard’s bald spot and you get a free wish.WHAT BALD SPOT!? THERE'S NO BALD SPOT! QUIT TALKING ABOUT MY- I MEAN ABOUT BALD SPOTS! I DON- WIZARDS DON'T HAVE BALD SPOTS!!!!
>>96950726Funniest image I've come across in a long time>>96961002Based child laughing at the absurdity of mankind
>>96972342Why would you EVER not tell the prophet to leave?He literally summons bears to kill people.That's someone that deserves to be driven out.
>>97026036It's absolutely my place to judge the morality of gods, especially ones who claim to have created everything but factually only started to exist a couple thousand years ago.
>>97045035>God doesn't exist because iron chariots were a thing>>97065164>God can't exist because this certain religion started 2k years agoI thought atheists were smart?
>>97066139You'll have to atleast qualify some other theory of god if you want an atheist to consider it. They're not going to ponder empty hypotheticals where there's nothing to ponder.t. theist btw. I just don't mind atheists bumbling around in their arrogance, because atleast they're doing right by their ignorant worldview.
>>97054475The whole monolatry began as a powergrab anyway. Jerusalem happened to be the location of YHWH after all. By essentially outlawing other canaanite gods like Ashura and Eli you took power away from their places of worship.
>>97066164You sound very arrogant for someone throwing shade
>>97066164atheists can never even consider the idea of some supreme being because it shortcircuits their hylic brains
>>97066139>God is bad because he is lying>YOU MEAN GOD CAN'T EXIST?!?that's an entirely parallel argument, you illiterate swine.
>>97066212No, atheists can understand a supreme being pretty well.It just doesn't make any sense in the real world. It's why they enjoy playing clerics so often. It's nice and fun to be part of a team that is actually -real-.
>>96950726The god in my game literally killed a guy for not busting a nut in his dead brother's wife. The brother was also killed by the same god because he didn't like his face.Hilariously the message that god's followers got from that whole story was "Masturbation is a sin."
>>97066184>You sound very arrogantBecause I'm right, fedora tipperJk anon. But if perfectly normal argumentation sounds arrogant to you, reconsider.
>>97068952Assertations aren't arguments. At least use hedging if you don't want to come off as a twat.
>>96950825Um you just dont understand>flips furiously through bookyeah see right here this means it was justified>leaves
>>97053647lol
>>97068964>if you don't want to come off as a twat.what causes you to think that?
>>96950726Gods in my games do what it is in their nature to do. The god of war wants violent conflict. The trickster god delights in causing confusion. The god of agriculture is thinking about thos beans, etc.
>>96950726>>96950735>>96950748>>96950786>>96950825I think being surrounded by 40 kids is pretty threatening if you traveling alone.
>>97072029I'm surrounded by 40kids every time I need something from my LGS. I'll admit it's unpleasan but rubbing some scented balm under my nose makes the experience bearable.
>>96950726at what norwood scale do you unlock the bear punishment?
>>96950735Based, long live the man, forsake the child
>>97072029Specially if you got drunk in biblical times and they're looking for their real dad
>>97072029Enough for you to grab a gun and mow the little snotheads down? Just keep your shit together.
>>97066293Bullshit, if they cold then they wouldn't be atheists.
>>97066293>It just doesn't make any sense in the real worldA godlike alien doesn’t make sense? Why? That’s literally all God is. A really big fucking alien. Listen…Atheists don’t like to acknowledge that a sufficiently godlike alien being can totally be worshiped as a god or something.Theists don’t like acknowledging that their god is just a big alien and believing in gods is a variant of believing in aliens.
>>97075588>le enlightenent fence sitter
>>97072013>gods have only one nature and can't change their nature over time
>>97076083It’s not fence sitting it’s more like seeing both sides of the same coin for what it is.
>>97076090>it's not fence sitting, I'm just sitting higher than y'all in the middle!
>>97076095>pick a side bitchNo, fuck you, it’s all the same shit; even science has become religiously dogmatic
>>96950735spbp (second post bald post)
>>96969588I thought it was a field of rubble.
>>97075588>A godlike alien doesn't make sense? Why?Because every described characteristic of this god is stupid, evil, or outright a lie.The religious have talked themselves into a corner with their god claims, which means any god they bring up has thousands of years of history of being proven wrong over and over.The only claims about god that AREN'T entirely bullshit lies are the ones that don't say anything at all about god, like "Oh he's everything", a non-statement. Also a lie, as god is a distinct fictional thought form.>>97074895No, atheists comprehend this, then say "Oh, that's fucking retarded, what a shame."
>>97077283No, it hasn't.Because science can still be disproved, and this still occurs. Wheras religions continue regardless of how much they're disproved.That's what "religiously dogmatic" means.
>>96950825>>96953728In the original translation it's a crowd of adults and young adults who are surrounding him and threatening to kill him.
>>97076088They can change their nature over time. A god of fire can be one a god of arson too. Or he could go a different direction and become a god of cooking, and then a god of family or home. But they still do what is in their nature
>>96960799
>>97078242>be one*become
>>97078241In the original translation, they rightly called him an evil warlock and demanded he leave so that he wouldn't cast evil spells upon them.In retrospect, they really should have killed him, as he was a warlock.
>>97077283No. Certain ideologies are religiously dogmatic, and they appeal to "science" to justify their dogma. But that isn't actual science, it's just lies.
>>97078241>original translationToo bad the orignal text calls them kids.
>>97078254That’s dogma anon
>>97078254The Science™ is dogmatic. “Trust the Science”. Listen to high priest Fauci. Say China is culpable and you’re racist.
>>97079981No, that's generally just something told to retards trying to poison themselves or intentionally spread malaria or some shit.Trust the science is said in condescension towards groups deemed too stupid to understand the topic.
>>97078204>Because every described characteristic of this god is stupid, evil, or outright a lie.Um, if God is external to the terrestrial sphere - which He absolutely is - then He is by definition an extraterrestrial. A very, very big one considering He transcends our three dimensions. Larger than Life. It is an assumption that He is Responsible. Evolution, causality, is a tool of His.
>>97079994So you agree that it’s dogmatic. I accept your concession. Stop twisting your brain trying to avoid the obvious.
>>97079994“Um the science says” is an appeal to authority which is dogmatic
>>97080013Christian people can stare at the same fucking thing and will still say or claim ‘no it’s different’ or ‘no it’s better’ lol they’re so blind to the world of men
>>97080037That’s because they’re superficial retards who can only think in brands. They see a red coloured ant and they think it’s not an ant because it’s red.
>>97080021>>97080013>I was talked down to, so you're religiouslolJust trust the science.
>>97080007>God is external to the terrestrial sphereprove it
>>97080075He made it. Stop being so low IQ.
>>97080080NTA, but I made the universe. Stop being retarded.
>>97080082Prove it.
>>96950726A popular argument amongst agnostic scholars is that the existence of the gods could only correspond with their profound indifference that precludes worth of veneration.
>>97081274Hah, made ya do that.
>>97081325oh, I missed. Oh well, I'm not infallible, you can tell by what a laughable job I did to your knees.
God is a funny guy
>>97081541Nah he’s a wrathful fucker
>>97030450>It should also be noted that the exact Hebrew phrasing is less children and more like "young men" at least how it's used elsewhere (1st kings uses it to describe a 20 year old, albeit who is diminutizing himself in humility). So like, not Grown-Ass Men but solidly a gang-recruitable age. He was being rolled up on by a posse of at least 42 young thugs, possibly more if some escaped the bears, yelling that he was an un-person non grata who needed to go join his newly dead predecessor, and probably had intent to force the matter.Like we call it in the foreverwars, Military Aged Male. Could they vote as a US civilian? No. Are we going to shoot them if they look sideways at a gun when they come to see what the commotion was after some of their armed peers were shot? Yeah.
>>96950726Had a GM who had one country ruled by a divinely mandated lineage. That lineage was comprised of total fuckups. They were unremovable from power because the moment a rebellion attacked or harmed them, divine godstrikes would rain down, punish the people, incinerate the rebels, resurrect the chosen lineage, and restore the divine-mandated status quo.We chose to avoid visiting town. He was a great GM otherwise.
>>97003287wat
>>97078254Science is dogmatic. Science is a religion.
>>97086335Man, the religious really can't comprehend a world without them, huh?Straight up just impossible for you to process.
>>97081221hey,>>97080080here, he made it. I saw.
>>97086335>IQ >science
>>97087317>biological variance>this suddenly stops once it reaches the brain He’s right. Not only are you religiously blind, you’re religiously retarded. Dogma indeed.
>>97089319>statistical bullshit is... le biology!>what, you call me out? That means you must believe *insert inane nonesense about everyone having identical faculties*Every fucking time the same old script. IQ-cultists are quite retarded for people worshipping Intelligence.
>>97089711>I HATE BIOLOGYI know you do
>>97090569>my delusions are biology!Technically true. They are, after all, misplaced chemicals in your noggings. Nice showing how non-dogmatic your thinking is, btw
>>97086335The poor man just died tooFUCK the scientific communityIt can’t even say what a woman is
>>97092115>old racist man died, bohooAny definition is arbitrary. I can define a woman, but it would leave some fuzzy corner cases. And that's mostly fine, it's not that interesting question that would require an ironclad rule that works everywhere.
>>97092115Trannies are only validated by metaphysics and whatever it means to spirituality “be” a woman.
>>97092983It’s racist to acknowledge that genetics matter now?
>>97093110What is exactly the practical application of the knowledge that intelligence is genetic? Surely it wouldn’t be to racially discriminate large swathes of the population for their genetic inability….Racist btw
>>97092983Why don't you identify and a bird and jump off the top of a skyscraper? Let's see what happens.
>>96950726Extremely petty but only the worst gods are actively cruel. Damaging a shrine even a little will get your ass cursed but only the worst of gods will refuse your repentance.
>>97084185Sounds like the GM had a chip on his shoulder about Divine Mandates.
>>97093158>What is exactly the practical application of the knowledge that intelligence is genetic?It’s less practical and more “no duh”. It’s the refusal to acknowledge the “no duh” part that’s insulting/infuriating. If you can’t acknowledge something so basic……
>>97094221The leftist position is that the noble lie of equality needs to be upheld or else the end result will inevitably be the gas chambers again. And it will. How else could the democratic system possibly go on?
>>97094464>And it willThat relies on people being retarded. You don’t excuse the retards. And by retards I am referring to the people who can’t into odds, or likelihoods. Even black folk can produce really good mathematicians. The Igbo are called the ‘black Jews’ for a fine reason. Eventually you realize it’s more about rate, not race. The Ashkenazi Jews themselves are more likely to have higher IQs than other races. >>>/sci/16860860You have have a high IQ/capacity and still be unproductive and have poor critical reasoning skills, like brilliant Chinese mathematicians who still worship Mao in their bathrooms. “The intelligent are full of doubt whole the unintelligent are cocksure” can be flipped into meaning “the intelligent are not very productive”. The only people who hate on IQ can’t do nuance. L
>>97094597You can have* a high IQ/capacity and still be unproductive and have poor critical reasoning skills, like brilliant Chinese mathematicians who still worship Mao in their bathrooms.
>>97094597This is exactly why we’re in the situation we are now though>well some of them are productive therefore we can’t discriminate
>>97095231You don’t need to be a genius to be a rocket engineer you just need a good enough memory. Is that productive? But yes the cocksure retards are a big part of the problem. Same with all the weak and sensitive intelligent people who are too afraid to speak out.
>>97095231We can absolutely discriminate. Some races aren’t nearly as productive or as capable as other races in areas. That’s just how it is. If you’re a Jew you’re going to be better at abstracts and maths.
>>96950726The reigning Goddess of Healing, Medicine and all things adjacent killed three separate people who discovered separately discovered sterilization, before she just decided to instead ride the wave and granted this secret to her followers.She on occasion curses medical instruments sterilized without her blessing with mild disease.
>>97065141That's like asking a Greek pagan why he wouldn't stand on top of a mountain in a rainstorm in copper armor and scream "Zeus takes it up the ass" as loud as he can. If you're a Jew, particularly a Jew from ground zero of the must ruthless smiting God has ever laid down on the Jews to that point, it's sort of on you to know not to flagrantly violate divine law.
>>96950735bald bitch
>>96950825Jews worship the demiurge bro we've been telling you this the whole time
>>96950735Anonicus of Norwood.
>>97038439It does seem a bit weird that we get Jesus, who had or seems to have had a very different way of operating (except when it came to fig trees) , after the Old Testament
>>97097847Unless you're mandaeist, your gnosticism is a larp.
>>97093680Unc couldn't help but go with the most boring strawman he could think of, huh
>>97093110It's racist to group people with bogus science, yes. Always has been.
>>97092983>>97093158>>97099256Genetically determined low IQ brown hands typed this.
This thread is proof that this place is Reddit.
>>96950735ooph baldie outed
