So I'd like to make /3dpg/ great again. Need some help updating the OP. Anyone good at making a spreadsheets? We really need an updated printer matrix.
>Also thread needs less memes and more prints

>>96959966
>Need some help updating the OP
Can we put something in that can direct people to also check the /diy/ 3d printing general for FDM questions.
I know they can probably get a decent answer here and that does happen regularly. But seems like something the OP should have considering how frequently FDM related questions are asked.
Not that there is anything wrong with asking here but they may get better results asking the other general.

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Any ideas why this failed?
All the supports printed but none of the actual model did.
Did I use too few supports? Is the angle bad?
I never really print large pieces with resin so if you're supposed to go about it different than minis I'm not aware.

I got $400 worth of STLs, hell yes I'm going to be busy

>>96961166
I am not an expert but yea the angle looks kinda not great

>>96961315
How would you angle it? Because I was under the impression you want a tilted angle like that so there's not a lot of suction?

Reminder: Only retards and people with AIDS think resin fumes are dangerous.
>But Muh MSDS
Notoriously exaggerated, for example the MSDS for sand lists the recommendation that you wear nitrile gloves, a mask, and eye protection when handling it. Sand. They are published solely for the purpose of covering the company's ass so anything and everything that could happen with a substance is taken into account. That only some resins have a respiratory irritation caution and the ones that do are category 3 (same as many household cleaners) should put it into perspective. Do you wear a respirator when you mop your floors? Well maybe some AIDS cases do.
>But Muh VOCs
A lot of stuff has them, like Glade Plugins for example. Resin variety has a lot to do with the volume of VOCS they produce, but of the six varieties tested in the below study the average TVOC was about 586 µg/m3. Glade Plugins are generally between 300 and 600 µg/m3 for a room the size of most print rooms. They do have different VOCs, but neither have any of the truly bad VOCs in large amounts.
Source: https://www.mdpi.com/2075-5309/14/11/3343
>But Muh Internet Search Results
Unless you are looking at an actual study with data you are getting people's opinion, often based entirely off of other people's opinion. You can also find articles telling you how gluten is poison and tomatoes cure cancer. Things like ChatGPT and other AI programs just scrape the internet and as a result will often present these opinions as facts. Look into the actual science and studies that have been conducted and review the data.
>Summary
Resin fumes are no worse than Glade Plug-Ins. There is enough scientific evidence to support that conclusion that is freely available. Anyone who says otherwise is a retard, AIDS case, or some combination of both.

>>96961515
The entire reason I held off on getting a resin printer was because of the fumes and not having a separately ventilated room in my apartment (I don't want to have the window open for 24 hours a day). But basically it's as dangerous as using bleah/chlorine household cleaning products?

>>96961560
Ignore the retard you're replying to he's a pajeet in Canada there's literally not a least trustworthy source.
>Inb4 the poo types a mountain of cope about AIDS or something
Don't care didn't read + you're brown

>>96961560
Does your bathroom have an exhaust fan? That's good enough. And the guy you replied to is a retard larping as a troll.
>in4b a reply about aids or that shitty reddit meme

>>96959946
>>>96823778not the last
this was the last >>>96889640

>>96961560
Ignore the two people that replied to you, they are no print losers who are trying to justify why they don't print by convincing others. To them if they can't have a resin printer (likely due to having AIDS) then no one should.
The most common concern cited for resin printing by people who know anything about air quality is VOCs, but the source I provided lists VOC levels and the VOCs that are produced. You can compare them to other things (like Glade Plug Ins or cleaning chemicals) and determine for yourself if they are worse. By volume they clearly aren't unless you are using a very specific type of resin, and by composition they do not have either of the truly bad ones.

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>>96961166
Your likely problems are circled; your opening supports are too small. Think of your first few supports as anchors for the entire job. Not that they all have to be bigger, but there should be a few opening supports like 1 size up (and more of the same scattered throughout the job where the stresses of printing will be the highest).

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>>96961646
>>96961719
Oh and I would be remiss if I didn't mention that once again I am sorry you have AIDs. Maybe kill yourself before you spread it to others?

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I feel tempted to get the stl for these runescape minis

>>96961842
>be pajeet
>get told resin is less harmful that air freshener
>believe it and tell everyone else
>become sterile and die young
>just like brahmins planned
drink resin rakesh

Any tips or software or something to sort your files?
I have around 10TB of STL files and they are scattered around multiple drives

>>96962523
>be disingenuous faggot who ignores scientific data
>continue to seethe every thread about "muh pajeets"
It is pretty sad anon. I have literally proven I am not Indian but that is all you can think of to insult me with so you just continue to use it. It doesnt hurt my feelings, it just makes you look pathetic lol.

>>96961515
Thank you for your service, Sanityspam Anon.

>>96962596
A: do it when you downloaded them.
B: don't, it's a fuckton of work
3: stop procrastinating asking for shortcuts you know don't exist and just get on with devising and implementing a system of folders or tags that work for you.

>>96962751
Your welcome!

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trying to print 30mm long Basilisk SPGs for Epic. Medium supports, 30 degree tilt, front up. I printed a bunch of similar sized chimeras at the same angle fine.

My basilisks keep getting these soft / undefined, wobbly ends on their tracks.

What's the diagnosis?

>>96962621
>>96962751
>>96962807
Pajeet is not a skin color, it's a state of mind. Do not redeem at me again you samefagging street shitter.

>>96962874
Are you printing this as one model or in parts?

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>>96962938

one model - maybe the problem is no supports on that part of the track?

>>96962923
>pajeet is a state of mind
The level of cope here is unreal lol. I feel bad for you AIDs anon, you must have had it for a very long time to have this bad of a cognitive decline.

>>96962986
Good guess; frankly I think you're lucky anything printed at all. If you're comfortable with some simple 3d sculpting, you could make life easier by simplifying the tread detail on the bottom (just a big thin rectangle along the length of the treads to fill in all the stuff you're not going to see anyway). Would give you an easy place to put supports along the length of the tread.

>>96961560
Ignore the jeet, the first time he posted that stupid copy and paste I blew him out the ass showing that scented cleaning products (which he equates resin to) are bad and can reduce your lifespan and increase asthma risk.
Faggot never bothered responding.

>>96963974
>imaginary jeet didnt respond to my post a month ago
>ignores copypasta that addresses this very argument
I have no idea what you are talking about, but I can pretty easily address that again - though it is in my original post.
Is your argument that you should wear a mask and goggles when using scented cleaning products? My stance is that since they are similar in terms of health drawbacks you shouldn't treat resin printing as substantially more dangerous.

>>96964067 is a lowiq subhuman but il bother with your low-tier bait this time monkey
>Is your argument that you should wear a mask and goggles when using scented cleaning products?
loaded question fallacy, strawman fallacy, and black or white fallacy.
>Well maybe some AIDS cases do.
You handwave away all critics with the no true Scotsman fallacy

Here is my stance you Neanderthal, and it should be the stance of everyone else with more then a degree of common sense. Your lungs are very sensitive to anything in the air from pollen to microplastic glade plug-ins to resin fumes.
It is a worthwhile investment to use a greater degree of protection then just letting it sit in the open and letting your dog huff the fumes.

>>96965604
>loaded question fallacy, strawman fallacy, and black or white fallacy.
Literally none of those things. My entire stance as stated is that things like cleaning chemicals, glade plug-ins, and resin produce similar levels of air pollution and that one should not be treated differently than the others in terms of PPE. You saying there is some study that shows scented cleaners can have long term ramifications doesn't contradict that point, so asking you to clarify your position is pretty reasonable.
>You handwave away all critics with the no true Scotsman fallacy
No, the only group of people who have a reasonable excuse to be worried about exposure to these things in the incidental levels they occur are people with conditions like AIDs. Anyone else who are worried about those levels of exposure are either retarded or just haven't been presented with contradictory information.
>Your lungs are very sensitive to anything in the air from pollen to microplastic glade plug-ins to resin fumes.
I don't disagree, but the degree to which these things are dangerous is the discussion. Thus asking for clarification, do you wear a mask anytime you enter a home that has a Glade Plug-in because your lungs are very sensitive? Maybe you do but most people would find that idiotic.
>It is a worthwhile investment to use a greater degree of protection then just letting it sit in the open and letting your dog huff the fumes.
It is not, no more than it is worth investing in protection against Glade Plug-ins. I find the dog thing particularly amusing, you can't possibly think that resin fumes are more dangerous than things like second hand smoke so your fake indignation is laughable. Or would you be whining weeks later about someone who smokes having dogs in their house?

>Literally none of those things
fuck off retard not even giving you a (you) for this wall of bullshit because that is what you really want: attention

>has no rebuttal
>will probably still be seething a month from now
Sad anon, truly sad

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not as sad as begging for attention in /3dpg/

Community service is never sad AIDs anon, you would know that if you weren't a colossal faggot

>No you!
Tragically sad, maybe next thread you will have thought of a rebuttal.

>AIDs
>s
this is my last reply to a retarded pajeet

>resorting to grammar policing
I truly and honestly feel bad for you anon. It must suck to be so miserable.

>finally buy 3d printer
>go to /3dpg/ to find stls and print advice
>fume posts running a train on actual discourse
You're both faggots.

>>96967178
>Things that didn't happen
I would be happy to help you with advice or where to find stls anon, but I suspect you are not being genuine.

>>96967199
I am indeed being genuine. Already deciphered the faq, downloaded trannygram, and am downloading stl's at dial up speed for my mars 5 ultra on thursday. Ive got a few mechs picked out for steel rift. Putting together army lists for hobgoblin and browsing around for inspiration.

>>96967258
I am not familiar with either of those games so can't help there with STLs.
Regarding printing, I can't recommend highly enough an ultrasonic cleaner and cure station set up. One of the biggest hassles is heating the prints to make support removal easier but that set up combines the cleaning with the heating to make it so you can do both at the same time with substantially less mess.

>>96967277
>Please let me help you! Do you want help. Let me serve you, daddy. Let me help. Let me help. Please let me help.
Bitch, get off my dick with this servile healslut, shit.

>>96967312
>bitches about people not giving advice
>receives advice
>bitches about getting advice
So then you are retarded? Good to know.

>>96967277
You have a dumbos guide for 3d printing? Watched a few vidjeos but it seems like most people in the hobby try to make it sound as daunting as possible and take 10 minutes to say "put the resin in the vat".
Stuff like what angle to print at, how to configure supports, trouble shooting guide

>>96967324
Offering advice to another man is gay. Put that shit back in the closet.

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>96967324
False flag faggot

>>96967360
And I'll never stop doing it.

>>96967341
The instructions that come with it should be sufficient to be honest. Newer resin printers have auto-leveling and even without it it isn't hard to level. I would make sure you have some kind of screen protector on your screen in case you have spills or leaks. They are basically plug and play.

>>96967341
Oh and think about how you will heat either the printer or the room. I have a heater that keeps the room at 76F when I am printing (even in the summer since obviously my house isn't 76F) but that can be a big investment. I haven't tried the ones they sell that go in the printer but based on its size and reviews you may be better off just getting a cheap heater and something to check the temperature in the room with until you are ready to upgrade.

>>96967384
Appreciate it, brother. Sorry /3dpg/ is full of cancer
You know, from the fumes and all.
In case you're curious, steel rift is alpha strike but not shit and uses the same scale minis. Hobgoblin is a fantasy mass battle game that actually tries to play quickly. Both have unit builders instead of lists.

>>96967406
Oh damn, i figured room temp was high enough. How high can it go? Might just chuck it in a closet with a space heater.

>>96967420
If Hobgoblin is anything like WFB, Highland Studios makes great stuff.
>cancer from the fumes
most of them will die from ass cancer from faggotry long before lung cancer.
>>96967456
76F works for me, sometimes in the summer when it is like a hundred outside the room ends up being hotter than that anyway so I don't run the heater and haven't noticed any benefit. Wouldn't put it in a closet, you want a decent amount of space for your print station.

>>96967475
*Highland Miniatures

>>96967475
Ive got a spare closet i can set up with a chest of drawers that puts the printer nearly touching the door. Its basically a wall nook with a door, its right next to my painting desk already. Space wont be an issue. Ill check out highland. Hobgoblin is scale agnostic but ive been looking at 28ish mm stuff for the visuals. Considering warmaster scale just for the numbers though.

>>96967543
That could work but I would have a plan B. When I first got into 3d printing I tried having a very small footprint for my print stuff and it was a real hassle. I upgraded and now my print area is probably close to 6'x2' and I still feel like I could use more space.

>Have a 5TB STL hoard
>Have no printer
>Have the money for one but not the space (small apartment, live with family)
>The only guy with a printer I know has the most inconsistent quality I've ever seen
What options do I have? Etsy?

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>>96967894
I know a guy with a Mars 5 Ultra who does stuff for cheap if you have a contact
Etsy could also work tho but idk what the prices are like on there

>>96962621
>I have literally proven I am not Indian
You’re still a spamming dipshit trying to convince people to do things that aren’t proven to be safe.
Medical science spent most of the 20th century in denial that tobacco was harmful too.
Kill yourself forthwith.

>>96968406
>arent proven to be safe
Pretty much nothing is proven to be safe, every day they are determining something new gives you cancer. Have you seen how many things have prop 65 warnings?
But there is enough data out there to compare resin air pollution to other forms of air pollution. When doing so you can pretty easily see that it ranks relatively low, low enough that there is no reason to take special precautions to avoid it. A ride on a NY subway for example will expose you to more air pollution than a year of resin printing will for the average person who prints.

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Anyone happen to have picrel or any other iron hands stuff from red warden minis? Looks like it's mostly been taken down from other sites

>>96969495
Huh, you might want to msg him and make sure he's not just retooling it or something, all his other banners are up on the purple site

>>96968287
>Etsy could also work tho but idk what the prices are like on there
Think GW, then double the greed and the incompetency.
Etsy is why I have a 3d printer. I once ordered some amazons for Blood Bowl, they arrived about 15% too large. So I ordered the same set from a different seller and specified quite clearly that I wanted them to be 28mm scale. So they arrived standing about 17mm tall (though this seller did basically double the amount, guess he saw the size post-print and decided to give me the usual amount of resin for the price).
After that I saw how buying 3D prints would end up being a very expensive and very frustrating exercise so I said fuck it and bought my own.
Don't buy etsy prints, buy your own printer!

>>96971662
Part of me wants to print on demand for strangers over the internet because I'm not incompetent like this, but the whole
>yOu hAvE tO bUy mY cOmMeRciAL LiOcEnSe tO pRiNt WiTh pErMiSsiOn
shit is so fucking gay and lame.
Paying for digitial media is the most retarded nonsense. So I'd have to not advertise and do it under the table, and at that point there's no way there'd be the volume to where it'd be worth it.

>>96971662
Ok thanks for informing me
I was considering getting some FDM stuff off there for terrain but I guess not
>>96971920
Truthfully

Does anyone print terrain with resin? If so, why?

Anyone have a source for the new warmachine stls? They're asking way too god damned much for shit they just scooped up from the ruins of PP

Not a /tg/ poster at all: but I am coming here to ask for help for a Christmas gift idea I have. I want to get a custom 3D model of a Knight and a Princess, and the Princess has a crow on her hand.

Is that something I can easily make on one of those figure "mix and match then print" sites? Or will I need to go to Etsy to get something like that? Any help would be appreciated

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DM Stash shill here

It's been a while lads, but just letting you guys know we have 4 free models on our site at the moment. 3 of which are big ass monsters

https://www.dmstash.com/product/nils-olav-the-heartland-hero/
https://www.dmstash.com/product/cazanor-crystalline-scorpion/
https://www.dmstash.com/product/monodrake/
https://www.dmstash.com/product/the-observer/

Enjoy frens

>>96973990
Hero forge probably has what you're after.

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>>96974069
https://www.dmstash.com/product/midorius-the-broken-juvenile-green-dragon/

Forgot we also have a giant dragon too that's free.

Just getting into printing. Ive seen that you want to avoid flat surfaces parallel with the build plate, but can someone explain the why of that to me? Im struggling to understand why for something like a simple wargaming base i cant just slap it on the build plate.

>>96974069
>>96974654
Thanks man. I miss your vote posts.

>>96974688
Suction is the reason, it will cause print failures. Maybe not every time but more than if you were to just angle the print. It is also probably will wear out your FEP faster.

>>96975490
So if i were printing just a totally smooth base, just a rectangle of resin, could i decrease the angle to something like 10 degrees rather than the usual 35ish?

>>96974203
Hero Forge would definitely be the easiest option.If you don't have a resin printer yourself (which I'm assuming is the case) they can print a mini for you, though it is a little pricey.

I'd probably get it unpainted, though. Their pre-painted minis are pretty expensive and I've heard the quality isn't super great.

>>96971662
My experience has been kind of the opposite. The vendors I've bought from have mostly been competent because they know they're selling to tabletop players.

>>96971662
>Buy your own printer
I wish but like I said here >>96967894 I don't have the space. Everything I've read says that no matter what I shouldn't put a printer in my room.

>>96959946
Hot DAMN that is a cool-looking model. What's the name?

>>96976548
Balius Battle Strider by nfeyma.

>>96975531
More surface area more problems. Honestly I wouldnt recommend printing bases in general, they are one of the most difficult things to get to print right without a ton of supports. I would just buy them on a place like aliexpress.

>>96973186
Me.
Because resin is cheap and I don't want to buy an FDM printer.
Also battletech buildings aren't very big and can be hollowed out.

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Does someone have some (preferably free) bust STLs they can recommend? Something that feels similar to the busts Monument Hobbies sells
I want to focus on painting and try new brands of paints, I like women but I can also do a man or two once in a while

>>96976320
>Everything I've read says that no matter what I shouldn't put a printer in my room.
Everything except the Material Data Safety Sheet (MSDS) which is where the real information is. We've got anons ITT who print in their kitchens while they cook.

>>96975531
Print them with FDM or buy them.
It isn't cost-effective to print with resin.

>>96978347
>We've got anons ITT who print in their kitchens while they cook.
Yeah retarded browns do retarded third-worlder things.

>>96978347
>We've got anons ITT who print in their kitchens while they cook
I'm self-aware enough to not recommend other anons do the dumb shit that I do

>>96978347
Would a tent with an extractor and a couple carbon filters be enough?

>>96978347
>MSDS
>Real information
At best half true. They will have some useful information in them but their safety guidance is highly exaggerated. If everyone lived based on MSDSs toddlers would need goggles to play in the sandbox and you would need to wear protective clothing to spray a wasp nest.

>>96978733
That should be more than enough. If you are worried about it you can do a fan filter combo to pull the air from the printer and into a filter box. There are plenty of plans online for doing this and you can buy the charcoal at pet shops.
Or you know, you could just not worry about it at all. The danger is highly exaggerated.

>>96978760
I have pets, and I also have a rather sensitive nose so that's what worries me.
But then again, I airbrushed without any ventilation for years and currently use a basic extractor booth even with enamels. Would you say it's more or less toxic than that?

>>96978812
The smell is not really related to how bad air pollution is for you. But to answer your question it all depends on how much you will print and how much you airbrushed. The levels of air pollutants from both types of 3d printing are pretty low but they aren't non-existant. If you print 24/7 then it is definitely going to be more. If you print once a week and mostly when you arent there, it is going to be less than fairly regular airbrushing. Both will be less than if your wife uses hairspray each morning.

>>96978746
>but their safety guidance is highly exaggerated.
Yeah on the side of "don't event hink of suing us" caution.
If you follow the MSDS you're being beyond careful, anons ITT are just paranoid schizophrenics.
>>96978812
a single glad plugin air freshener is more toxic fumes than a 24/7/365 running resin printer.

>>96978068
Yooo anon wants to BUST

>>96959946
Where can I find WTC terrain?

>>96978068
At least you're on-topic in THIS thread.

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>>96976548
nFeyma Balius
Proud that i'm the op

>>96978647
Im not worried about cost, im just wanting custom base sizes without having to constantly order shit or cut everything out of wood. Ive got the 3d printer now, why not use it.

>>96981355
If you are not worried about cost, get an fdm printer. As I mentioned earlier you can print bases on a resin printer (I do sometimes) but it is one of the most difficult things to print right without saying screw you to your fep.

>>96981467
>one of the most difficult things to print right without saying screw you to your fep.
No? Just print them flat on the plate.

>>96981836
>without saying screw you to your fep
You missed that part, printing stuff like that will wear out your fep a lot faster than usual. There is also a fair chance you will have warping on the sides, and even a little bit of warping on a base rim is noticeable.

>>96978906
>>96979806
Is it really that big of an exaggeration?
Because every time I go into a youtube comment section people complain about the irritant fumes and how 3D printers are super toxic and shit. Some even claim they wanna sue resin manufacturers.

>>96982493
I've printed hundreds of bases, square, hex and round exactly this way and I've never noticed any issues with it.
Well, beyond being a bitch to remove fromt he build plate, but you get used to that after a few years.

>>96982505
Personally yes, I find it to be a huge exaggeration.
I am also convinced that there are entities out there paying people to badmouth printing online in an attempt to get a majority of people agreeing that it needs to be regulated.
Probably companies and interest groups, a multiple sides attack from companies like GW to anti-gun non-profits and any sort of copyright lobbyist and such in between.

>>96982493
I just lookked up the price of a fep cause i just got my printer today. Why are you suggesting i spend hundreds of dollars to extend the life of a 2 dollar consumable? Are you actually fucking retarded? The shipping on ordering custom bases is more than just buying a pack of fep sheets off amazon. I could use a different one for every print and be ahead on coat. Amoritizing rhe cost of a second 3d printer just to print bases JUST to save a 2 dollar consumable would be thousands upon thousands of bases. You are a faggot of the highest magnitude.

>>96982538
I did some research. Use a skate raft set to 90%, gives you a tiny overhang at the edge of the base that lets you get a razor under the base.

>>96982604
Skate raft? You mean like a circle/square/hex 90% the size of the base extending a few layer below the base?
I do that, I don't know about 90% exactly, but I dialed it in to just the right amount by eyeball/trial and error

>>96982631
Yop. Its a raft option in chitubox, just puts a a few extra layers under the model. Setting it below 100% undersizes it to create overhang. Probably in other slicers too

>>96982649
This is something I just do in meshmixer while I'm preparing files for slicing.

let noobs think resin is super dangerous so people stay out of the hobby desu. there's already enough third worlders in every tgram channel

What are your thoughts on printing at 0.05mm layer height vs <0.05 at 12k resolution? Do you think it's a significant difference in detail? Does it depend on your resin? Or do you think it doesn't make enough of a difference to justify the added print time? And do you think it's a significant amount of added wear on your printer, or is it neglible?

>>96983056
It usually is those people who do not care about health risks tho

>>96983245
Hows your painting? Are you good enough to not clog details at that scale? Is your color theory good enough to make that much detail appealing? If not, work on paints first.

>>96983245
there's no difference in detail especially with AA on but you can see layer lines on certain geometries, like the top of untextured domes
you still get those layer lines at 0.03mm but they're less noticeable than at 0.05mm
I would say run tests, print the same mini and some standard tests for AA and details at different layer heights, and decide for yourself if it's worth it (but calibrate the exposure for the layer height of course)

>>96982591
>sperging out about a suggestion that they buy an fdm printer
Printing bases isn't the only reason to buy an fdm printer retard. I use mine for far more than that, it prints things that are useful in your every day life.My suggestion wasn't to buy one solely to print bases, it was to get one and once you do it will also solve that problem.
>>96983353
That has not been my experience, brown people were far more likely to wear masks during rona for example. Brown people in general are far more likely to listen to those in authority about their health and be superstitious.

>>96982551
It isn't quite that. You forget, sunk cost is a real plague to midwits. They have invested heavily in the idea that you need an excessive set up to use a resin printer and will fight tooth and nail rather than just take the L.

>>96978068
>I like women but I can also do a man or two once in a while
>"I dont play games I just want to paint"
fuck off art fag

Before I pull the trigger, are there any hidden traps with the Mars 5 Ultra? I really want something that just werks after struggling with my complete piece of shit SM4k

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>its another "candian paki samefagging a conversation about how the danger of inhaling resin is overhyped" episode

>>96978647
>>96984014
>It isnt cost effective to print with resin
>UM ACTUALLY, I MEANT GET AN FDM PRINTER SO YOU CAN MAKE FUNCTIONAL PRINTS
>NOW BASES ARE FREE
faggy little pants on fire.

>>96984133
The cover sucks ass.

>>96984133
you can get premature screen death if the autoleveling build plate is not level

>>96984137
Those are two different people retard. Regardless, iIt is cheaper to print bases on an fdm printer, substantially so. It is not cheaper to buy an fdm printer solely for the purpose of printing the bases, but most people will end up getting an fdm printer anyway. That you are sperging out over this shows that you are a midwit who doesn't understand nuance.

>>96984134
If you can't tell that there are at least three different posters that are telling people the dangers are overhyped you may actually be retarded lol

>>96984151
>>96984157
>t-they're totally different people!!!1!
fuck off paki

>>96984151
>nuance
I would like to print bases
>midwit
USE AN FDM PRINTER
>sperging
5 posts saying not to print bases in resin because its bad, not a single one that can say why
>ruin your fep
How much is a fep screen?
>just get them shipped
How much is shipping?
The nuance here is that you're a dumb faggot arguing your dumb stance because you have a neurotic need to be """correct"""" and """"win""" every conversation, much like everyone else in your tribe.
CAPTCHA: 02KIKE
My sides

>>96984172
Lol that time both were me, good you are learning!

>>96984180
>I would like to print bases
Literally no one has said you can't on a resin printer, myself included
>5 posts saying not to print bases in resin because its bad, not a single one that can say why
I did, it is bad because it is a hassle you just don't understand nuance. Your time is money, changing your FEP more frequently and manually adding supports, ect takes time. An FDM printer - in addition to its other benefits - solves that issue. Or you could just do like most people do and get them on aliexpress for pennies with free shipping.

>>96984210
Ill tell you what. Ill suck your dick if you can find me 20mmx80mm rectangular bases on alie express. Ill wait.

>>96984241
nta but what rinkydink ruleset needs 20x80?

>>96971662
>buy some battletech minis from Etsy
>receive a Cougar (a light mech of 35 tons) that’s taller and heavier than a fucking 100-ton assault

I feel your frustration. That was about the point where I did the math and figured if I printed 100+ mechs the printer would just pay for itself. I blew right past that mark in less than a year, totally worth the purchase.

>>96984288
Im trying a house rule where different unit strengths get different base sizes, representing the HP of a single mans by how many dudes are in a unit. You get different base sizes for each unit which i think will add a lot of visual flare and make distinguishing unit stats at a glance really easy and fluffy. Standard bases only exist to ease the supply chain but if you're 3d printing anyways, every unit can have a bespoke base size. Hence why im not ordering them. The base ruleset is hobgoblin, which allows variable base sizes within a range. Dev intention was letting you use minis you already had for other games, but i thought base variance would be a cool mechanic/aesthetic to try out.
Its fantasy mass combat with no figure removal.

>>96984310
if it's gotta be 20x80=1600 why not try other combinations that would fit, like 30x50 or something

>>96984241
Ignoring the fact that I wouldn't want a dude to suck my dick, you are correct that you wont find something like that on aliexpress. You could message a seller but that would be a hassle.
I would still recommend an fdm printer. Again it isn't just bases, I use mine all the time for a wide range of things. Most recently for something for the wife's beta tank.

>>96984331
Because every unit is gunna get a different base size depending on stats and the physical size of whatever model i end up using for that unit.

>>96984348
Ill get one eventually but im so fresh i dont have resin yet. Ill for sure switch when i do, but right now ive got other hobbies eating up fun money too.

>>96984361
I get that, when I first started I did that stuff all the time on my resin printer. I remember it being a huge pain in the ass and even now when I need to print a base in resin (like if the model is designed to use that specific base) I still will but it is just not a great choice. Were it me, I would just reach out to my local gaming group to see if anyone would print it for me. I know I would, it is practically free to do so for me.

>>96978068
Fuck off pa*nter scum

I like to print my bases in resin because it's less sanding

>>96984290
Uhh... I blew past that mark in my first month.

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>>96985590
I like to paint my minis and don’t like having a big gray pile of shame to work through, so I only print as fast as I can paint. If you can do 100+ painted in a month I tip my hat to you.

>>96986320
For Battletech? Easily.
Painting mechs is orders of magnitude easier than painting for say, Blood Bowl or Necromunda. And not just because the bar for quality is much lower with Battletech, you can get great looking mechs with just a basecoat, drybrushed highlight, and then pick out some details like lasers and cockpit glass (jewelling optional)

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Recently been tweaking out, spending hours looking at different versions of the same tank so i can put a special set of doors on it. Its surprisingly a lot harder then thought. Eventually gave up and lost any care to print for a week.
>Recently found out you can merge two STL's
Heres an exposure test I did while I gather up the will to take back the project. It tells fuckl all because its too god damn cold here, and its all overexposed anyway. Might also print out some shield dudes or termies inbetween.
Thanks for reading my blog

>>96984134
Goddammit I was ready to bite the bullet and get a printer.
Every online conversation I read keeps going on about how it COULD be just as bad as asbestos, but none of them post studies or anything that tells me how bad it truly is beyond a shadow of a doubt. There are some people talking about their own experiences which can go from "yeah it's less dangerous than hairspray" to "it made my eyes burn for hours."
Is there any irrefutable proof about how damaging resin fumes are? And whether it's something that can be mitigated with measures like a tent and an extractor?

>>96986516
>but none of them post studies or anything that tells me how bad it truly is beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Because no studies have found any such results.

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>>96986428
Yeah, digital kitbashing. Just be careful not to leave voids within the combined model that can trap uncured resin.

>>96986516
>Is there any irrefutable proof about how damaging resin fumes are? And whether it's something that can be mitigated with measures like a tent and an extractor?
Doesn’t seem so, no.

>>96986584
Or use clear resin and cure any trapped resin like it's nothing.

>>96986584
Thanks for the tip, it seems chitubox has a void finder thing so im not too worried.

>>96986516
There is no study specifically on resin exposure. But towards the beginning of the thread there is a link that shows data on resin VOCs which are the most common concern. The long and short of it is that they produce levels during printing similar to what things like glade plug-ins produce constantly. So if you are concerned (which you shouldnt be) research the VOCs and things that have similar VOC levels.
Really it isnt something to worry after, you are exposed to worse every day anyway.

>>96986584
I really need to learn how to digitally kitbash

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>>96987053
Meshmixer is very easy to use. Just watch some pajeets on YT explaining it.

>>96980779
That is some damn good painting, you have the right to be proud of it.

>>96967894
JLC3DP

How do you guys feel about AI 3D scanning?

>>96987777
seems pretty decent. the calgar floating around is AI. with the way GW lets you do the 360 rotational view on their website I'd imagine you can get some pretty good results especially if you're capable of doing some cleaning in blender afterwards. personally I don't want to pay for an AI model to use and all the free stuff looks pretty limited so I haven't tried it myself

>>96986516
no it's literally just redditors

>>96984014
>Third worlders are the ones who care about health and safety
Are you fucking retarded?

>>96986516
Regardles of that, most printers come with a protection cap.

>>96987777
should be interesting seeing those garbage scans that are everywhere cleaned up / edited by AI

>>96987777
It is great, I fed it an image taken from an assembly guide for a kit and it spit out a pretty close match. Once painted the only reason you can tell it apart from the other is because I got the scaling wrong so it is a bit bigger.

>>96987777
I'm trying to get pictures of old 3rd edition mandrakes online to try it.
But it's hard to get other than just the front and back of them.

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Anyone used the autosupports in Lychee? I bought a file that I'd like to get printed (picrel), but it didn't come with supports and I don't really have experience doing it manually. I tried using the autosupports, but it seems like the supports printed without the actual files. Wondering if that's due to orientation or something else

>>96990237
I will shill it always and forever because it helped me immensly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-48RKSB4T3U
I also use Lychee.
>tl;dw
Let Blueprint repair the model if necessary, do the steps of the vid, import supported file into lychee, IGNORE lychees error (lychee sucks ass after they changed things) and print

worked 100% for me so far

>>96990237
>>96990883
You guys need to use another slicer for the actual slicing, Lychee is literally the worst, even Prusaslicer is faster and less buggy

>>96990920
I only notice it when slicing big files on my tablet, so it's fine.

>>96986761
>>96961515
Maybe read at least the conclusion?

It is highly recommended that 3D printers be enclosed and fitted with extraction mechanisms [53]. When the enclosure is not feasible, 3D printers should be placed as far as possible from workstations or areas where personnel are present to minimise potential exposure [4]. The use of personal protective equipment (PPE) is also recommended [10], following the hierarchy of controls to mitigate occupational exposure [48].

>>96993432
Wait, so according to this all I need is a tent with an exhaust that uses a somewhat powerful fan and I can place it on my desk?
That's perfectly doable for me.

>>96993460
Looks like it would be ok if you have sufficient extraction running all the time while the machine is running. To be safe I would also let it run for as long as open resin is around.

But another thing is, spills happen to most people, so it's better to have those around stuff that can take a heavy cleaning with chemicals, bare cement or tiled floors.

>>96993460
Well, that takes care of the printer. But then there's the bit where you pry the prints off the build plate, clean them (the solvent used there may also add its own load of Perky Stuff™ to your indoor atmosphere), get rid of supports, and finally cure them. Plus any resin spills outside of the tent (drips form the build plate, just what you get on your tools, and the like, or if you manage to knock over an open resin bottle...). You probably want to have a plan for how to deal with all of that before you start your first print.

>>96990920
what do you use?

Is the Indo-Canadiam who tried to poison his wife's husband's dogs still active here? I have a question about resin type vs. poo taste quality.

>>96993432
The conclusion you are referring to is not substantially different from the advice in MSDSs. They are saying that since the rates are higher than ambient amounts you should take precautions but again, by that logic you should take those same precautions with glade plug-ins or hairspray.
The data is the important part, not the conclusion they drew from the data. Think for yourself rather than just relying on the judgements of others.

>>96994011
If you do not trust someones judgement, why would you trust their ability to do tests and compile data?
If you are not a specialist in a field, it is a stupid idea to trust your own judgement more than that of a professional.

>>96992351
For me it would use 32GB of RAM and kill itself

>>96993594
Prusaslicer+UVtools because I work on Linux, but I don't recommend it because it's not intuitive to set up
Just use your printer manufacturer's slicer if you're autosupporting in Blueprint

>>96994065
There is a difference between trusting someone not to present falsified data and trusting their judgement. I believe thay their data is accurate but the motivation behind their judgement (or at least what they present as their judgement) is suspect.
In the study they reference the "acceptable" air quality level. They conclude that it is higher than that benchmark and thus present the conclusion that it is more dangerous than that benchmark. That really isnt in dispute, what is in dispute is whether it is enough worse to warrant special treatment. Like most people, they dont want to be sued so the safest option for them is to - like the MSDSs - recommend an excessive amount of precaution.

>>96993634
>CTRL+F "AIDs"
>???
>PROFIT

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>>96987170
Thank you anon, it is truly motivational
Sometimes the hobby seems like a waste, but other times it seems like the end game of life.

>>96995254
Nigga your pic made the OP because you showed the naked print first. Don't think it gives you a license to turn the general in a paint blog.

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>>96990237
I'm actually in the creators program for Lychee
The easy fast way to do auto supports is as follows:

>Tilt your models manually 45 degrees in the best position for you
>Click the Magic button, select Light Supports and no auto orientation (you already did this)
>Now check the model from below and add 2 or 3 more light supports on the very lowest areas of your model to reinforce them, these are the "anchor" spots and are always more prone to break first. Or just add one medium support there
>You could also use the "find Islands" feature to add more supports automatically but i've found it unnecessary sometimes, but as always won't kill you if you think you missed some island by yourself

That's pretty much it, you've done it

My other fav setting is to 3D hollow and do a 1.5mm thickness on the walls, less waste and still sturdy

>>96995266
Take it easy anon just thanking the other one
ill call you a faggot to balance things out

>>96993634
Give me a QRD because I'm reading this thread while thinking about getting a resin printer and now I don't know if I'm getting double psyop'd by a pajeet purveyor of poison particles or if the redditor crew's paranoia about health hazards is justified.

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Guys, sometimes when I'm unzipping files it tells me that some files have names that are too long or wrongly formatted.

Is this common or is there a way I can remedy it without going into each individual file and renaming it? It's getting really annoying when I finally find a good model on the gram and I can't extract the torso file. I'm using free chitubox btw

>>96996125
>concern trolling
Are you really that desperate for attention anon?

>>96996597
No, I genuinely want to know.
I want a printer but I don't want resin cancer. Some anons say I'll be fine, others call him a poojeet with no survival instincts.

>>96996842
Resin is like fibreglass. Would you work with fibreglass without protection?

>>96997016
No, in the sense that I wouldn't touch resin without gloves. But I also wouldn't print without the cover. In a similar way, I wouldn't shake fiberglass and snort it.
What I'm trying to learn is what degree of protection is actually necessary, because having it in a separate isolated room (or even building as some people do) and treating the printing area like Chernobyl's reactor and the resin itself like the elephant's foot like reddit tells me to feels over the top. But using a tent and a venting system like some anon said, gloves and mask when pouring, washing and curing and doing all of that in your regular hobby space, even if it's your bedroom, sounds like reasonable precaution. I want to know if this seemingly reasonable (to my criteria anyways) precaution is enough, or if it really is liquid death. Because no matter how much I want to print an army of kitbashed shit, it's not worth turning my room into a gas chamber.
So are the women who do fancy nails with resin poisoning themselves and their customers?

>>96996558
Windows has a cap on the maximum allowed characters for a filepath so if you're trying to extract a file somewhere with a stupid long name and inside 5 nested folders or whatever it'll cause problems.

>>96997141
>But using a tent and a venting system like some anon said, gloves and mask when pouring, washing and curing and doing all of that in your regular hobby space, even if it's your bedroom, sounds like reasonable precaution.
>I want to know if this seemingly reasonable
Yes, yes it is unless you're a certain pajeet who insists on making a dick of themselves in this thread.
If you have a workspace in a shed or garage that is well ventilated you can go without the fume tent.

>>96997179
>If you have a workspace in a shed or garage that is well ventilated you can go without the fume tent.
Nope. The only space I have is on my oversized desk. It'd fit the tent and a wash and cure station perfectly, next to a window that needs to be replaced soon so may as well get one with a hole for the exhaust.

>>96995300
>I'm actually in the creators program for Lychee
How much do they pay you and is it worth it?

>>96997242
>How much do they pay you
Nothing, they added me and gave a a bunch of goodies and was waiting for them to add my content then never did, but the goodies stayed so thanks I guess
They were very kind tho

>>96996558
Probably need to enable long paths in the registry.
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/fileio/maximum-file-path-limitation?tabs=registry#registry-setting-to-enable-long-paths

>>96997230
It is worth mentioning that the anon you are taking advice from is a schizo and is likely the one that claimed white people can be jeets because "it is a state of mind".
Dont take advice from trolls on 4chan anon. Look at the data that is available on air pollution from resin printing and make your own determination. The data indicates it has a similar level of air pollution when printing as a glade plugin has all the time, but dont just blindly trust me - compare both and verify it yourself.

>>96997141
>So are the women who do fancy nails with resin poisoning themselves and their customers?
Dude, we've already fucking told you: Maybe.

>>96997892
>Dont take advice from trolls on 4chan anon.
He's just torn between a burning need for a 3D printer on one hand and the ice cold anxiety (that's likely a constant companion of his) muttering about cancer and neurological damage on the other. And so we're left dealing with the small child in between crying out to Dad to come make the world simple and understandable.

Is cured resin safe to touch with your bare hands?

>>96998294
>He's just torn between a burning need for a 3D printer on one hand and the ice cold anxiety (that's likely a constant companion of his) muttering about cancer and neurological damage on the other. And so we're left dealing with the small child in between crying out to Dad to come make the world simple and understandable.
Ouch.
I mean, you're not wrong...

>>96999230
Yes, as long as it has been properly cleaned and cured it is safe to the touch with your bare hands.

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How do these "leaked" scans print?
in the 3D view they look quite unclear
Is this just the model and when painted they look alright or are the prints also shitty?

Does anyone know of any fantasy knight models that are muscular like space marines?
I want to print some Bretonians or historical knights or something, but all the Highlands Miniatures and other Bretonia proxies I find are super lanky and weak looking.

>>97000177
Depends.
Some scans, look kinda shitty because they are of old metal models and the original had way softer details and was probably cast in aging mold.

Others are just bad scans, or bad scans someone "fixed" badly.

In my experience, scans can look better after printing, the softness of the resin helps often, but sadly not always is that enough.

>want to start printing resin
>live in shitty islands where everything is hazmat
I hate this...

>>96961560
>>96961646
samefag

>>96999230
No, wear a hazmat suit you idiot, wtf are you even asking for?

>>96990883
Is blueprint that much better? I tried a test print for a couple minis and it was a little more difficult to release, the scarring is definitely rough on some parts. Going to try thinning the supports as mentioned in the video but trying to figure out if i did something wrong

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Anyone got a source for the Eons of Battle terrain files? I have been able to find the ork brewery, plasma pipes, corpse cannery, and the crashed ship but I am looking for his gothic administratum, starship bridge, and crashed lander sets. Also

>>96987113
If thats yours where did you get the head?

>>97003179
>where did you get the head
gas station bathroom

>>97003179
I think he used AI for it unless I'm thinking of someone else from 2 threads ago.

Did anything ever come out of that Lychee AI drama? I don't really follow the news

>>97003907
Never AI, everything I've seen from AI has details like early 2000s models.

The head looks to me like something from trench crusade pilgrims. The whole range was shared a while ago.

I know, this thread is more familiar with resin printers, but as Black Friday is approaching, and apparently this year, everyone is starting the discounts early, i have to ask your guys opinions:

I've got a Mars 4 Ultra, so i'm fine on the resin side of things. Its good enough for my needs for at least another year.
But i do not have an FDM printer, and the idea of printing bigger terrain pieces, or fdm-stuff in general tempts me for a while.

Right now, Elegoo has their Centuri Carbon on sale for 299€ and Bambu Lab has their A1 for 249, and the P1S for 369.

I rule the A1 out, because i have a cat, so i think its better if the printer has a box housing.
So its Centauri vs P1S. Is the P1S actually that much better to justify this kinda big price difference? Specs look kinda similar (to me, who is clueless).

>>97005969
You can buy a tent enclosure for very cheap for any fdm printer. Beyond the cat, it is good to keep the dust off of them.

>>97006023
True, but truth be told, i always liked the sturdy metal case the old Anycubic Photon had, so having something similar on an FDM is tempting to me. I checked, and i can buy metal boxes for a printer too ofc, but they are not as cheap as the tents, and then i'm already reaching the higher price tiers anyway.

>>97006055
I mean, you should buy what you like. I may not value a hard enclosure but if you do then get one. I cant speak to how good the carbon is but I dont believe it is bad enough that you would regret buying it.

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Can anyone recommend me a pirate or sailor miniature like this? Just some muscled, able-bodied guy so no hooks or peglegs. Bonus points if it's an actual game piece that won't break when you look at it wrong.

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ok anons, any stl that resemble this style of mechas?

>>97007623
l2yeggi

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>Have all pieces printed out
>Gluing them together
>Get to the end and find out one piece is too small to fit on the body
>Ruins the whole model
>Sigh loudly and bin them while going back to my pc
>Only the sliced file remains so I have to start over
If I hadnt already drank all my booze, i'd be two cans down.

>>97009431
Yeggi is shit and only gives skulls and pirate captains or female pirates. I just want a muscular bandana guy.

>>97000177
That one loks like it would be a good print.
Scans don't look as smoot as regular .stl miniatures because they were modeled using a different method.
But once you print them, they're as good as the original.

>>97010809
This
>Yeggi
It's such a garbage site, and I don't get why anyone would seriously recommend it as something good, and not just as a bad example

>>97011165
What's a good alternative to Yeggi?
It's the only one I know.

>>97011208
Yeggi is fine for what it is, a search engine. It obviously doesn't replace being knowledgeable about what is out there but if you know how to use it properly it can be pretty useful.

>go to yeggi
>enter "pirate" and search
>wonder why the exact model i want doesnt appear on page one
skill issue handicapped by zoomer intelligence

>>97005969
I have a Carbon; I'm not sure I'd buy one for €299 (they're regularly on sale in the US for $280 [€242ish] plus tax) but I have no particular desire to get locked into Bambu's ecosystem either. It's a good machine, not totally without flaws (the case exhaust fan is louder than you'd expect, and my gen 1 machine has a flawed cable design for the toolhead; eventually it'll need replacing). The pros are it's handled every kind of filament I've thrown at it like a champ.

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>>97011973
>Some stuff that never happened.
I'm sure you are able to find it then.

This is the closest I got. Not on Yeggi but trough MMF.

>>97012199
>I'm sure you are able to find it then.
That only shows that you don't even understand what's the issue.

this is more a general question about FDM printers but... Is now a bad time to buy a 3D printer? Basically, have tarriffs or something made the prices worse for right now?

Looking for recommendation for resin printer. I have/use Ender 3 FDM printer for several years. Kids are asking me to print some minis for their tabletop games so they can paint them up.
Location: USA
Budget: $150-$200. Not looking for top of the line obv
Options: Anycubic Photon Mono 4, Elegoo Mars 5, Creality HALOT R6
Slicer: I use Cura. Assume I need to use something different.

>>97012809
I wanted the R6 but I couldn't find it available in my country and no option anywhere to ship it here, so I got a mono 4 instead.
The mono 4 is much bigger than necessary but it's a great printer, I still would prefer the lower cost and smaller size of the R6, I don't need 28mm miniatures to print 8 at a time.

>>97011975
>(they're regularly on sale in the US for $280 [€242ish] plus tax)

Well, I'm in the US, so those 299€ already include the tax, and ordering it from the US is not an option due to the shipping cost of course.

>my gen 1
I guess they do sell a different gen right now?

>he case exhaust fan is louder than you'd expect

I've read about it, but apparently the P1S is not very silent either. I guess i have to deal with it, or let it run when i'm at work.

>The pros are it's handled every kind of filament I've thrown at it like a champ.

That sounds promising, but for the start i think i'll stick to standard PLA for a while, to see and learn how it works.

>Bambu's ecosystem
It has pro's and cons i guess, but being "free" is not a bad thing.

Thanks for your input.

>>97012938
>Well, I'm in the US
i'm in the EU ofc..

>>97012938
Free is not a bad thing, "Free" is a very bad thing.

>>97012976
Yup, whenever someone wants you to pay with something other than money, you're getting ripped off.

>>97012923
Frankly, I'm having a hard time understanding the real-world difference between 10K, 4K and 2K screens in terms of detail.
Any of the above is better than my 0.4mm nozzle FDM can produce, but for a mini I've no idea what "minimum" is acceptable other than more pixels is better.

The Anycubic Photon 4 10K is ~$160 right now, and seems like the best deal of the 3.
HALOT is $140 and 2K screen.
The Mars 5 is 4K but $200.

>>97013260
nta but I want to be able to print bits that are indistinguishable from real GW bits. Particularly old 90's bits.

Can 10k *definitely* do that? Like after painted, if I looked at this little funky chaos bolter with a jeweler's loupe, you wouldn't be able to see printlines etc?

>>97012996
Free as in not costing money and free as in freedom of choice are not quite the same "free" you know.

>>97013260
>Frankly, I'm having a hard time understanding the real-world difference between 10K, 4K and 2K screens in terms of detail.
Well, for a start, that number doesn't actually tell you how fine the resolution is, only how many pixels you have (and even there just about everyone cheats by rounding up to the nearest thousand). A 8K screen that's half the size of a 12K screen will have smaller pixels, ie better resolution.
A quick look around and the Photon 4 has 17x17 µm pixels, the HALOT Mage 30µm, and the Mars 5 18µm.
Now as for what the pixel size means for detail levels... Ain't entirely trivial to tell. But diminishing returns have kicked in hard for a while now. For the three you mentioned I strongly doubt anyone would ever be able to tell the difference between 17µm and 18µm without a very expensive microscope, but 30 µm might be noticeably behind, assuming you're not bottlenecked by the resin of course. Because that can also limit things.
Also, how good details you can get also depends on the quality of the light in addition to the pixel size, and as pixel size shrinks the light liekly becomes more and more important relatively speaking because if it creeps out a micron to the side that's going to matter a lot more with 5 micron pixels than with 25 micron ones. Dunno if there's any real standout here in terms of either good or bad though.
Though to simplify it all what I've seen of reviews and such suggests that, frankly,t he print quality itself is fine on any popular printer of the last two generations or so, though ACF release film can cause some issues while allowing for higher print speeds instead. Avoid or replace with FEP film if you prefer the print quality.

>>97013495
OK. Sounds like the Anycubic is the way to go then, all things being equal.
Same effective resolution as the Elegoo, but 20% less expensive.
>>97013319
I've spent a substantial amount of time refinishing FDM parts with primer+sanding. It's got to be better than that.

>>97012938
>Gen 1
Chinese manufacturers (at least Chinese 3D printer manufacturers) have a habit of modifying their designs on the fly; Elegoo is no exception. Batches of printers can sometimes have wildly different features; the printer you buy might be different from the printer I bought.

>>97013260
>The Anycubic Photon 4 10K is ~$160 right now, and seems like the best deal of the 3.
at that price, yes, it was $300 when I bought it and the R6 was still $150 then.

Is it easy to find 40k stIs? kinda wanna do printing

>>97014488
For these digits I will let you know that Telegram is the place for you, if you know the basics of how to use a search engine you'll be fine.

>>97014488
Finding a bunch of them on telegram isn't terribly hard. Finding some specific one can be a bit of a crapshoot, at least if you want to keep your wallet out of it.

>>97014488
Depends what you are looking for. Largely yes it is unless you are looking for 1:1s. But 1:1s are lame, it is like copying the McDonalds burger patty recipe for the sole purpose of saving money at McDonalds.

>>97014524
>McDonalds
Grandma calls it McDick's!

>>97014488
There's plenty of proxies and plenty of scans/copies.
And if you can't find the unit you want, there's always the option to digitally kitbash.

>>97014636
>proxies
Does anyone 3D print with the intent that their prints are temporary stand-ins that will be replaced with GW kits in the future?

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>>97014654
No, they're not proxies in the sense that you're going to replace them.
They're proxies in the sense that they're not identical to the official model, but they can be used as such without much modification.

>>97014522
>>97014512
Thx. Is there 6mm epic stuff also?

>>97014719
If it's not a temporary representation, it's not a proxie.
This language is meant to belittle and delegitimize 3D printing as lesser than corporate plastic.

>>97014752
Do you have a better term to use?

>>97014752
Stop

>>97014770
Miniature, Model, Mini, Figurine, etc...
The only reason to use any other term is to create a divide between people with printed models vs people with purchased models, to cement the idea that GW plastic is the "proper" way to play.
There is no need for this if you aren't a GW employee, leave that shit to the corporation to seethe about, don't help them.

>>97014752
Whatever you think it means, and whatever this or that dictionary might think it means, that's what it has come to mean in both wargame-figures-3D printing and MtG circles. And there's nothing you can say or do that'll change that.

>>97014719
>scale chart
So is it 100mm from head to toe, or from wingtip to base?

>>97014820
>I choose to use a word incorrectly
Literally nigger tier.

>>97014785
Who cares what term is used? Proxy is accurate, it is something that is meant to stand in for something else. GW's game system has its own official pieces, if you use something other than those official pieces you are proxying. It is what it is.

>>97014938
>Proxy is accurate, it is something that is meant to stand in for something else.
TEMPORARILY.
If you're not throwing out your prints the minute you can afford to splurge on GW plastic then your miniatures are not proxies.

>>97014938
Please don't feed the troll.

>>97014968
You've responded to the wrong comment anon.

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>Not a single anon has posted a print in this thread
Get good faggots

>>97015553
Why are the skulls so small?
Is he a giant or a child killer?

>>97015677
They could also be halflings.

>>97015677
My guess is baby killer

>>97015677
that's one of the giants from HATE, he's real tall. those are adult skulls.

>>97015553
Where'd you get the file for him? he looks great.

>>97015981
MMF

my sons want to get into 40k and i am interesting in resin printing. are stls available for most the minis or are there ones not out there yet?

>>97016444
Nice, i've had my copy of the game for years and recently did a lot of painting to turn the different tribes into both a complete set, and a horde of chaos marauders. I had no idea they had made the files available digitally. Must be fallout from CMON dissolving the company. Here's hoping they release the files for Hel so i can print those. that's the least they can do after taking my money.

>>97014394
I ended up purchasing it, some resin, and a strainer funnel. Between that stuff and my ultrasonic cleaner and UV lamp setup I think I have everything I need. I'll give it a shot over the weekend.

>>97016691
>UV lamp
That's a good idea, I just have a UV flashlight.

>>97016662
In one form or another yes, they wont be 1:1s though. Those do exist but they aren't profitable so they are harder to get. That isn't a bad thing, 1:1s are pretty pointless.

>>97016835
But they look passable right? Like you can know what 40k mini they are supposed to be

>>97016776
Halloween leftover; they give them away in November. I've been using it to cure UV epoxy.

>>97016936
Generally yes, they are often better in quality than what GW produces and most creators try to make them the same general dimensions and with wargear that is easy to differentiate.

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>>97016835
>1:1s are pretty pointless
Ignore this fucking clown lmao

>>97012500
The issue is that you're pretending the file exists and could easily be found by knowing the right magic words and/or putting in some effort, and assuming some random stranger on the internet only did the bare minimum.

/tg/ used to be good and helpful.

>>97017954
>reddit spacing
>complaining
go back faggot

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>>97015553
The quality in these threads has been dropping.
Let me post my tribute and hopefully improve it.
Finally made the squad >>97009824 I was moaning about. The damn shoulder pads were too small to fit on the arms.
>>97016662
Yeah, cults3d usually has a whole bunch of free shit of either outright 1:1's or similar proxys. Hell a few weeks back some anon posted a reddit threat containing torrent files for (shitty) stls for nearly every unit in 40gay

>>97018575
>a reddit threat containing torrent files for (shitty) stls for nearly every unit in 40gay
Is there one for fantasy battle?

>>97018177
>Being an edgy little shit on /tg/
Did you get banned from your regular boards or something?

>>97018852
go back. /tg/ has enough pretentious uppity niggers huffing their own farts already

>>97017804
Printing models that are identical to GW stuff is pointless, there aren't any good reasons to try to pass your stuff off as GW stuff. If you want to play a GW game at a GW store then you should buy GW models. They will still probably figure it out eventually even if the models look identical.
If you aren't trying to do that, the stuff that is out there is objectively better in nearly every way.

>>97019092
there are reasons for it:
Its cheaper
you can get stuff thats not available
its faster to get than ordering

You act like there is no reason for cheap fast food to exist when you can get expensive burgers in fancy restaurants

>>97019092
not the guy you were replying to, i dont even have any warhammer miniatures anymore i threw them away back in 2017 but if someone painted them and coated them how would anyone know unless they started fucking with them chipping the paint off? modern warhammer is so lame that if i do get into it again i will probably buy a bunch of old second hand stuff to paint since i prefer the older aesthetic.

i dont have a 3d printer btw i just like looking at what you guys make.

>>97019501
The weight is different and when they break (which will happen if you play often) it is often obvious, but the main way people get caught is people snitch. Nine times out of ten a person will blab to someone thinking that person can be trusted. I am not saying you will automatically get caught, but you probably will eventually. In the grand scheme of things the money you save is not really meaningful.

>>97019459
No, I act like there is no reason to make fast food at home so you can sneak into a McDonalds and eat a homemade Big Mac. If you are going to go through that trouble you are better off just either eating elsewhere or making something better. Saving a trivial amount of money just to eat an inferior product in a specific location is pointless.

>>97019540
just place a weight on the bottom i suppose, that should be standard anyway to keep them from rolling around or falling over. im not even advocating someone do it, i just dont think its a big deal. hypothetically it would only matter if someone was playing at a GW store, but those seem to have a lame vibe compared to a Local game store anyway. if you get "found out" and they tell you to leave, who cares? oh well. i feel like the average player would have a better experience playing casually at comic store.

>>97019578
Any store that doesnt allow you to play with with 3d printed minis isnt one worth playing at in the first place. And if you can openly play with 3d printed minis, why would you settle for GW quality? There is just so many good options out there for 40k that are just plain better looking and far more customizable.

fuck your food analogies and post more prints

>>97019778
(_)o(_) brap
U___U

>>97014959
Just stop your fucking autism. Everyone uses proxy for any kind of alternative miniature besides the original you retard.

>>97020252
>everyone if you exclude all the people who I don't like

>>96969495
I've gotten stuff from him by asking directly on his instagram

>>96987777
What program? I tried something called huggingfaces or something like that and the results were pretty poor from what I can remember

>>97019778
I can't post prints because they're not gaming related...

>>97020520
If only anons on /WIP/ had this much self awareness.

>>97021045
No anon, you are just retarded.

>>97021206
If you want to post and talk about shit that has nothing to do with tabletop gaming, find a board that's relevant to whatever the fuck it is.

>>97021218
Chill out, sperg. Go grab your inhaler or something.

>>97021227
So you're an asthmatic soitard?

>>97021252
>n-no u
pathetic.

This thread is pathetic. I'm half convinced GW pays some intern to shit the place up.

>>97015553
I paint every mini I print and unless the rules have changed I thought this thread was for advice and unpainted minis.

>>97021648
>I paint every mini I print
same
if that anon that wanted to change /3dpg/ the rule for "unpainted only" should be changed to "if painted show unpainted too"

>>97021363
They do it for free

>>97021363
Paypig shills do it for the same reasons that beta orbiters will fight to the death over the honor of whores who will never look at them.

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I've been told in /diy/ to try my chances here since you guys print figs and so you most likely paint them too.
Basically I have some resin kits of anime/game girls I'd like to paint. But first I'd like to learn on my own prints to not screw up painting on kits I actually ordered and paid for, so I have couple questions regarding printing and painting figs.. Mind that I'm talking about filament printing, not resin.

>printing
Any tips for slicer settings to avoid tears and make supports come off easier?
Picrel is example, you can see tears in skirt. In the front there is even full hole. Also while removing supports, tip of sword broke. I even bought some modeling knives and pliers to be able to cut troublesome supports off in the future, but didn't get to test it yet. Plan is to make walls thicker and grind artifacts down with sandpaper.
Don't mind lack of detail, it was printed with 0,4 nozzle and I scaled model down in slicer to save on filament when just testing so it's expected to lose details. 0.2 nozzle arrived recently so once I finish some tests on 0.4, I'll switch to 0.2.

>painting
Would acrylic paints be good for painting PLA/ABS or something different like enamel or lacquer is required?
Any specific type of primers to help paint adhesion or something?

>airbrush specifics
I'm looking to get airbrush because most kits come in parts that make it easier as you can paint most parts in uniform color. I've read most of your mini figs are like 3-5cm tall. My kits are like 15-30cm, and when it comes to prints I plan to stick to 10-20cm height as it's nice compromise between detail, space and filemant use.
If nozzle size determines how much paint gets spit out and thus determines how fast it will cover area, for figs this size does it make sense to go for smaller nozzle sizes like 0,2 or 0,3, or you should go for 0,4-0,5?
Is additional pressure regulator on airbrush useful in practice when you set it on compressor? I'm eyeing couple models and one model has it.

>>97022034
>practice before painting kits bought
Okay well you're going to be doing that for about a decade if you have no miniature painting experience

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>>97022067
I'm willing to try. Worst case scenario I can sell tools and pay someone to paint them because I saw such services exist.
Also I thought that painting minis would be more demanding due to small size and thus amount of detail work required. And they are often painted in more realistic, "western" style, with lots of shading, realistic looking skin, rust etc. Most anime figs are cleaner and more "basic" when it comes to painting. It feels like there is much less shading involved. And as I've said, often arm or thighs alone are size of your small minis, and are supposed to be in uniform color, like skin since it's body part. I might have a chance.
Also looking at catalog I noticed you have Work in Progress General which seems to be better place to ask about airbrush specifics. If I noticed it earlier, I'd post here only about printing and type of paint for PLA/ABS and ask the rest there.

>>97022034
>printing
Don't know, I don't use my fdm printer for what you are trying to do - I use my resin printer for that.
>painting
Yes acrylic paints are fine. You can use any major brand of spray paint, it doesn't need to be one specifically for primer. Just make sure it is flat or satin.
>airbrush
Good luck, I never had much myself. If you were going to just use it to paint something one color I would just get more colors of spray paint and save yourself one more thing to learn to do.

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>>97022225
>I use my resin printer for that.
Well, they are superior for details, but I simply don't have settings for that. Little space, stinking up my room would be less than ideal and I'm not going to keep windows open for longer during winter because my turtle will get cold while sunbathing. Also I don't have as much free time as I'd like, and resin printing requires a bit more time to play with all chem required. Not to mention I have other expenses planned.
>paints
Thanks. I was curious because apparently some paints use some acetone, and some ABS types tend to melt in acetone. And I wasn't sure about paint simply coming off.
>If you were going to just use it to paint something one color I would just get more colors of spray paint and save yourself one more thing to learn to do.
Thing is, buying just paint will be more cost-effective long term. And airbrushes can be used for some detail work if airbrush is good enough and has specific settings. It simply offers more than just spray can.

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>>97022034
>Any tips for slicer settings

pic related was my setup for 0.2mm nozzle before I switched to resin.
imo use the FDM for hobby stuff (hobby tools, knick knacks), not for detailed figs.

>>97022282
>keep my window open
You are the reason I post the message at the beginning of threads. You don't need to keep your window open. Even if somehow I was wrong (which no data has been presented to prove that I am) you could literally just vent into a filter box instead of outside. I work in a hospital and we don't even need to vent outside when engaging in infection control. By limiting yourself to venting outside you are literally putting more restrictions on yourself than emergency departments have.
>paints
I would be shocked if they had enough to make a difference. Acetone also would melt plastic models, plastic cement is like 50% acetone.
>airbrush
To be fair, my advice was based solely on you indicating you would be using for what was essentially one color base coating. If you want more than that then yeah, an airbrush might be ok. I stopped trying with them after my fourth airbrush but maybe you will have more luck.

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>>97022312
Thanks. I'll test it out.
Also can it be called detailed when whole thing is like thrice the size of what you usually print for tabletop games?
Consider amount of detail on picrel and for example >>97015553
Mind that this Rio kit is like ~20cm tall while that anon's print is around 5cm judging by hand it lays on. Rio is like 4 times his size.

>>97022328
In any case, I listed several reasons for not being able to use resin printer now. Maybe someday.
>paints
Well, I have never played with it so I'm clueless. When it comes to painting I know only what I needed to learn to remove rust on my old car. Tbh I liked the process and it's one of the reasons why I'd like to give painting figs a try.
>you would be using for what was essentially one color base coating
I mean, just look at these parts. Pieces like skirt, arms etc are basically one color with maybe some shading and then lacquer on top to give it some effect like shine or satin look. Legs require a little bit of shading on the back of knees and you make those darker straps using tape to cover fig and block excess paint from airbrush. I'm shitter with no experience, but to me it looks like it'd be much easier to paint than something like >>96980779

>>97022166
Anime fogurines are sold that way and so are gundams, yes. But serious hobbyists repaint those and go for more detail, it's up to you but if you go that way the only thing you need to practice is thinning paints for smooth application and getting transition lines clean as fuck (ie; separation between an article of clothing and skin) which is a more demanding aspect than us minifig painters because we use washes or black lining to cheat those separations, our base layers are typically "outside the lines"

>>97022282
Oh also avoid /WIP/ with anime figures, they will defend every other kind of off-topic poster (ie; busts of characters from a non-gaming novel) but anime figurines they shit on and tell you to take it to the toys board, they're hypocritical that way.

>>97022034
>airbrush
Pressure determines how much paint comes out. You can get small, fine lines by thinning your paint and dropping pressure. Ditto for getting wider coverage, you just use an airbrush paint/primer straight from the bottle and up the pressure. A 45ish dollar airbrush will have a few nozzles and needles you can experiment with.
>paint choice
Almost definitely acrylic. Least wear on your airbrush, most forgiving, easiest to clean up, least toxic and obnoxious. Army painter has good colors in their airbrush line. You can also use any acrylic inks and airbrush medium if you want to mix your own colors.
>supports
Heat the print before tearing off the supports. Itll soften the resin and make it way easier and cleaner to get them off. If you're working in a delicate area, use a sharp blade. I have a folding utility knife and buy blades in 40 piece bricks for like 20 bucks. Swap them often.

>>97016936
Who cares if they're passable. Get models you think look cool and just pick an army to use them as. If you're playing friendly games with your kid it doesnt even almost matter.

>>97014731
Yup. I havent found any direct copies since im not a 40k player but theres a shit ton of 6mm scifi stuff. Vehicles and terrain are very abundant since mech games are usually 6mm. Im sure theres plenty of stuff you can find for standins for a 40k army. I THINK one page rules has small scale stuff but i may be wrong.

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>>97022831
I imagined you do these separation details with fine brushes. At least that was my plan. Looking up brushes and what's the difference between synthetic and natural, what to clean them with was next thing I'll be looking for after deciding on airbrush. Once I have everything picked I'll either order or take trip to hobby store and get myself some paints, brushes, sandpaper, chem and try in makeshift painting station made of cardboard box which figs arrived in.

>>97022971
>Pressure determines how much paint comes out
Does it have more effect on this than nozzle size? I thought that pressure has mostly impact on speed, and nozzle size is what has more impact on how much paint comes out. And I'm guessing nozzle also determines spread.
>easiest to clean up
That's another thing I was curious about, but I assumed I'd just find it while looking for paints. What do you usually use to get rid of acrylic paint in case of fuck up?
>Heat the print before tearing off the supports.
I was getting opposite advise in /diy/ and it made sense. When material cools down, it gets more brittle, meaning it should give up and break easier in weakest parts, which are supposed to be parts where supports meet the print. Here supports were so strong, her sword broke. Problem was that supports somehow weren't weakest point like they should.

>>97023124
>I imagined you do these separation details with fine brushes
no, smaller brushes hold less paint, on a figure your size that will result i constant dipping in the palette and a sketchier line, a larger brush loaded with paint and long smooth continuous strokes give you a leaner edge.

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>>97023262
Hmm, I guess I'll have to come back here in the future when I'll have some problems because I don't know shit about painting. I'd really want to avoid painting artifacts like you can see on cheaper figs, picrel. Need to get some sleep for now as it's night already and I have to wake up to work in like 7-8 hours. In any case thanks a lot, coming to /tg/ has solved some of my problems.

>>97023340
I just can't stress enough that even on a larger figurine you can't bet on good results without lots of practice, mini painting relies on small motor control muscles in your hands that you have never exercised before, it's a hurdle we all have to get over in the beginning.

>>97021686
Do you have some kind of disease that prevents you from taking a photo before the painting starts?
>>97021686
You obviously haven't read the FAQ in the OP.
>>97022034
>>>/tg/wip would have the best paint advice toytranny

>>97023340
No. Don't come back you mentally ill freak.There's plenty of printer/painters in >>>/tg/wip

>>97023436
This general is merely a stub of WIP

>>97023455
Fuck off back there then faggot

>>97023460
I probably print more than you do, how many kilograms of cured figures do you got?

>>97023436
NTA but taking pictures of unpainted prints is lame. They are a canvas to be painted, would you be bitching that people didn't take pictures of their unpainted canvases?