"A Rising Tide Carries All Ships" EditionArchives & Other Resources: https://rentry.co/cyoagAllsync: https://cyoa.allsync.com/s/owWor64yLTngDk3Previous thread: >>96951556>Thread Question: Are people more a product of nature or nurture?
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>>96960506Entropy Snake https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96787971/#96791184Scroll Lich https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96787971/#96791572Primordial Jew https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96787971/#96792028Aventurine https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96791933/#96793188Machine God https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96791933/#96793440Shadow Crafter https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96791933/#96794677Yin Yang Scion https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96791933/#96797399Artist https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96798161/#96800218Id and Ego https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96804748/#96806558Inheritor of the Cataclysm https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96804748/#96808227Ever-Changing https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96810832/#96814569Entropy Inevitable https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96818370/#96820919Venom Dragonlord https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96823661/#96828105The Sins-Eater https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96804748/#96810724Tachyon https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96810832/#96813537Malevolent Growth https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96810832/#96814205The Inexorable https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96810832/#96816304Primordial Faggot https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96810832/#96817789Karmic Shopping List https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96818370/#96818642Heavenly Lunar Emperor https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96818370/#96819549Behemoth https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96818370/#96823049Edict of the Sovereign Hand https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96818370/#96823070Breaker of Infinities https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96823661/#968273245 Fold Method Madness https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96823661/#96827382Sen Secret Stain https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96823661/#96827550The Wanderer with a Heart of Gold https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96823661/#96828125Slaughter Scion https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96831220/#96832212
>>96960506>CCsloppa again give it a rest
>>96960514catfag....
>>96960513The Tempest https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96944561/#96944722Spooky Ghost Pirate https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96951556/#96953945
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>>96960517>tfw four of the new methods were my suggestionsfeels good
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>>96960506Opinions on Rake?
>>96960272Marcelle best girl
>>96960524Which ones?
>>96960533I fucking hate stepping on them only to have the handle shoot up and smack me in the face.
>>96960692verdant is 90% of what i had in mind with my suggestion (though rake fumbled the name a bit in my opinion), stone-titan is about 60% what i had in mind when suggesting it, celestial is 20% what i had in mind and only sort-of resembles what i suggested but it's still close enough to see the resemblance, and talismanic is about 70% what i suggested
>>96960730That's more like 2 and a half
>>96960743the % is more about execution, the fluff is all there, which is why i can see so much resemblance even in heavenly despite how it doesn't do the things i imagined it would be in a practical sense
Is there a divine trials v2.3? Or did I hallucinate?
>>96960533Hopefully he makes a CYOA that I really like someday.
>>96960533Well I'd say Space Opera Bodyguard is more interesting than Cataclysmic Cultivation. Though I do like the shifts in theme that Cataclysmic Cultivation has from standard cultivation stuff. Besides that I do think Rake does a good job with art style and writing. Still though, a fucking leaf.
>>96960863>Is there a divine trials v2.3? Or did I hallucinate?I don't keep track of version numbers, but the final version has possible outcomes with the various goddesses. However it cut the "bad ending" section, as it was redundant and confusing people. Most of the image galleries (like Imgur) showed older, outdated versions. I haven't checked recently, so I don't know if that's still true.(Why are you asking here, by the way. The /trash thread could just post it for you.)
>>96960937>Space Opera BodyguardToo many points.It would've been better if martial only builds could have existed organically, but no, everyone has crazy magical powers because everyone has way too many points.It should be called Your Own Adventure, because the choices that enable build diversity are non-existent.
>>96960975>martial only buildsDon't need to be a thing. Not every cyoa needs to cater to all possible build styles.
Working on my Ultimate Grimoire build from yesterday's thread, are there any hard counters to Void's anti-reality magic at Master level?
>>96960506GALL>Verdant Heartwood Sheaves>Bone-Scrivened Talismanic Transcribe>Thousand Venoms Texts>Perfect Conduit>Third Eye>Decentralized Organs>Wise Elder>Lowly Junior>Communication Expert>Power Concealer>Essence Furnace>Condensation Array>Spliced Tree>Hunting Grounds>Heavenly Conqueror Foundation>Auxiliary Master>Triffil, the Young Master>Yesod, the Blind Craftsman>Deviated Form>Possession>Fading Away>EmpatheticFor once this is mostly what I would actually pick if I (me) were inserted into the setting. I will live a simple agrarian life, practice alchemy. and build a cult/school to collaborate with until there's a reason to come into conflict with other cultivators, when hopefully I and my allies will be in a much stronger position>>96960533I've liked most of what I've seen from him a lot. Neolithic Messiah and Wasteland Scion both evoked classic CYOAs in a way that didn't feel too derivative. Realizing that spurred me to finally play this cultivation slop. my opinion on the genre has not changed but this is the most tolerable of them as far as I know
>>96960533Massive faggot who makes word of God declarations on discord to random Anon autismos just to try and defend his shitty writing. Everyone knows Vermillion sucks and is trash but he thinks just saying each method is equal actually makes them equal when the cultivation method differs. If you can't get tech for your machine build, you can't cultivate. If you can't take power from enemies worth thieving their power from through the art of murder via Vermillion, then you can't cultivate at the same speed. But this retarded little faggot author Rake thinks that just because he SAYS "t-they're equal though!" that it ignores his shitty writing. Post-hoc declarations on dickscord is retarded.Also CC is SHIT, he added a million drawbacks which aren't actually drawbacks so every idiot takes 10 drawbacks so they grab 3 grand inheritances and a ton of other goodies. Fucking stupid. There's no tension, it's too easy, the methods are SHIT, and I fucking hate that faggot ass pussy mouth breathing idiot. FUCK YOU RAKE
>>96961013Pillbait
Rake had potential. But he squandered it.
>>96961034I've been watching Hazbin Hotel, and increasingly I see it as "4chan: the Animated Series"https://youtu.be/bOarXIWBtWk?si=dquK_05t7kOpa-Me https://youtu.be/kMy8W0j-Slw?si=OYGeECFICjAWm8rm https://youtu.be/Ajkaebudwq0?si=izRcPM8NGBMsvnlP
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>>96961082>I've been watching Hazbin Hotel, and increasingly I see it as "4chan: the Animated Series"Very accurate. Also, thanks for posting the SUPERIOR cultivation CYOA (yes, that counts as cultivation).>>96961081He should stay in reddit where he belongs. Worst CYOA author of the year by far.
>>96961120Dawn of a Demon Lord . . . a cultivation cyoa?
>>96961133Yes. You are cultivating demonic power. I haven't read it in a while, but I think it's 50 years on an average world to generate 1 point of power (some worlds are faster for more risk). That is cultivation coded enough for me to consider it the grandfather of cultivation CYOA (and superior to CCslop in every way).
Leave Rake Alone
>>96961138No. I hope he wakes up and starts crying. I hope he feels bad and deletes CC. I hope he says he'll never make a CYOA again and gameovers himself in the most excruciating way possible. Fuck Rake and fuck every Rake sympathizer.
>>96961082>4chan: the Animated Series>modern (((american))) animation instead of coomer weeb shitSo how long has it been since you came here from reddit?
>>96960506MERCURIAL QUEEN>Writhing Swarm's Canticle>Akashic Ascension Records>Litany of the Living Forge>Right to Rule>Imperial Ancestry>False Death>Dreamwalker>Mastermind>Extradimensional Library>Condensation Array>Stores of Wealth>Lotus Bomb>Perfect Servant>Perfect Guardian>Heavenly Conqueror Foundation>Kairos, the Genius>Sgt. Richard "Twang" Cox>Valuable>Doomsayer>Hero's Journey>>96961034Spare us your shitfit dude. If you disagree with the author just Sartre it
>>96961146Sorry to disappoint you, but I don't even have a Reddit account. :)
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>>96961155>I don't even have a Reddit account. Oh okay.So how long has it been since you came here from a normalfag site that isn't reddit?
>>96961144You sound like a crybaby bitch acting all tough
>>96960272>Thread Question: Are people more a product of nature or nurture?Solved issue. This is scientific question, there are methods to separate the two like twin studies and adoption studies, they all show that for almost all stats genetics is much more important than shared environment (which includes parenting and family wealth). Genetically identical twins raised in different families have high correlation for most mental traits, especially intelligence, genetically unrelated adults who were raised in same family have very low correlation, almost like complete strangers.If you adopt a kid, he/she will grow up closer to biological parents than adopted parents on most stats. Parenting actually is less important than normies think. If you want intelligent kid, number one thing is to conceive it from intelligent partner (number two is abort and try again if you detected a condition like Down syndrome). Even leftist and/or rich countries can't solve "bad schools", because quality of school is mostly selection, comes from quality of kids (which is mostly genetics).> look, this Marxist professor says it's pseudoscience and deboonks itLooking at "debates" about the topic, I noticed Western leftists really hate it and seethe about it. And yet they have zero interest in separating nature and nurture themselves, they usually just declare it's all about family wealth and education spending because they said so and everybody who disagrees is a fascist eugenist. They could deboonk it by rich leftists adopting kids from low IQ parents and raising them into geniuses - how it works according to the left - but it never happens (raising geniuses part, not adopting part).
>>96961219>nothing of substance to sayAnother overwhelming victory. Seethe harder, Rakefag.
>>96961215>So how long has it been since you came here from a normalfag site that isn't reddit?Six years, give or take a few months. What about you?
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>>96961225What are the "stats" you're talking about? Please cite at least some of your sources if you're going to rely on scientific literature to back your argument. Otherwise just belt out your feelings like a man
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>>96961137>no stages>no meridians>no pills>core isn't even goldenYou may as well say that every cyoa with power growth is cultivation. Are you cultivating the Dao of the Spaceship in Stardust?
>>96961243>Six years, give or take a few months. What about you?I am angry chud that came here from reddit in late 2019 :(My attacks on you were insecurities over retarded internet culture.It's over. I have humiliated myself.
>>96961309No worries. We're all fellow CYOA enthusiasts, right?
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>>96961300>"no stages" when you literally ascend to a higher tier of power by fusing yourself with your demon core to form a True Immortal Dao Core Body>"no pills" when you can take Alarune Apothecary>probably doesn't realize Spirit Enchanters exist for alchemy>doesn't even realize you can form a second lesser demon core as the rare Dual Summoning Refining Body Physique>he hasn't seen silver cores evolve into golden cores in xianxiaThe only one I'll give you a point on is that it's lacking meridians. However, I never said it was a proper 1-to-1 cultivation setup. I was simply defending it as a predecessor or ancestor that all upstart cultivation CYOA must bend the knee to out of respect. You will submit to the ancient prophet Anduin the forefather who was amongst the first to break into the True World Shattering Realm.
>>96961318Not him and you are a newfag in my eyes. No offense, just have to proclaim my seniority upon you.
>>96961309>>96961318Adorable and wholesome. I'm glad Anon and Anon are getting along!
>>96961350:) Well then, whip it out. You've seen what I'm packing - can you match it? :)
>>96961373>Dwarf Fortressover before it started
>>96961356Shared hobbies should bring people together.
>>96960975>>96961034>>96961081>>96961120>>96961144NONE of you deserve OC
>>96961344retardanon...
>>96961373I will do you one better, i will whip out some OC, got my motivation back.
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>>96961424Dead King's Offer? Haven't seen that one in a while.
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>>96961388We deserve good OC, not shit OC from retards like Rake.
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>>96961407>extreme qi deviation symptomsBlown to ash like a burning leaf fading in the wind.
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I can't say I've enjoyed even a single Eternal cyoa
>>96961243Medical Defree+Evo Suit+Medic Cache+250Pilot LicenseSpiritual Mentoring Tuition Fee -2,000Gravship -3,000Free JumpsuitModern Local attire -250Custom Melee -250Bludgeon with electric abilities2 Classic Laser -200Holocomm -250Galactic Chart -500AI -500Neurohelm -4504 Laser Turrets -6002 Lighting Turret -300Scanning Wand -300Spiritual Fetish -250Space Internet! -50Service Droids +Upgrades -600Ship DefencesFlares -250Shields -550Mines -450Repair -500Medical -600Engineering -600Physics -600Professor M. DulbejenMy Familiar!Onn Kja YaUt-Ut PhregmBlitzen FrrelBlend and SuspiciousGut Feeling and LuckyThe Bros are out on an adventure.
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>>96960533I kinda half agree with what >>96961034 said. Rake overdoses his cyoas with wish fulfilment to the detriment of all else, every build you make ends up being bloated from how much stuff it shoves down your throat. He also heavily relies on WOG, which isn't a problem in of itself, but it becomes annoying when fags start citing random things he said somewhere on discord that clash with was told in the actual cyoa. He lacks a spine as an author and lets himself get creatively raped in a futile attempt to make everyone happy.My favourite cyoa of his, Neolithic Messiah, is great precisely because it doesn't baby you and lets you know there are actual high stakes.
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>>96961243>Gang Initiate>Entertainer Tutoring (Actor)>Trader's Apprenticeship>Creep Craft>-Turret (Cluster Rocket*, Napalm, Plasma)>-Ship Defences (Mines, Shield)>Broad Frigate*>-Turret (Plasma*, Laser*, Railgun*)>Mobile Base>-Turret (Cluster Rocket*, Gatling*, Railgun*)>Modern Local Attire*>Mix & Match>-Refugee Rags>-Finer Fashion>-Environmental Suit>-Vanguard Armor>-Hard Light Shielding>Grenades (Hologram, Sonic/Flash)>Power-Fists>Tractorgun>Revolver>Hydra Shotgun>Mega-Drugs*>Business Investment>Escape Pod>Jets>Tuition Fee>Dual Citizenship>Work & Play (Play)>Mindy & Mandy Jackman>Biscuit & Tin>Vincent Bell>Roaring Feng>Debzy Disful>Lunefree>Phrustoh-fel>-Conscripts*>Satorc>-To the Lab*>'Ardboy>Slavesbuilding for a classic to finish out this evening. These guys are traveling players, a troupe that visits both sides of the conflict between Phrustoh-fel and Satorc. With some innovative racial caricature using holograms, their satires of the enemy are particularly popular on both fronts. The mobile base serves as dressing room, stage, and market center - they do a little dealing on the side
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>>96961034>If you can't take power from enemies worth thieving their power from through the art of murder via Vermillion, then you can't cultivate at the same speed.I'm still confused how this is a mark against VV. The CC setting is explicitly teaming with all sorts RE mutated creatures, from animals turned into monsters to fallen cultivators to various undead that steadily mutate into more threatening forms if not culled. Those are higher power but lower skill opponents that are perfect fodder for VV, no post hoc-writing needed, you just have to have a decent reading level and a bit of creativity. Though the undead numbers drop off once you leave Earth certain other worlds are teaming with beasties to kill, places like the world the Hunting Grounds treasure leads to is filled with nasty critters to pad your kill count once you get stronger.It's just a high risk, high reward Method where you have to put yourself in harms way on a regular basis but can advance quickly. And it actually synergizes Machine if you do it that way because hunting RE mutated creatures also happens to be a great method for gathering materials.
>>96961137The grandfather of most cultivation CYOAs here is 100% Heavenly Kitchen Realm, which I am pretty sure is older then DOADL.