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Freaky Wednesday Edition

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com/
https://www.pdhrec.com/

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>TQ
You wake up in the body of the last commander you played, how fucked are you?
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>>96967866
I'm a big fucking dude with tiny arms and a huge green shlong
So not much has changed
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Is Merieke Ri Berit decent or is she just a Post Malone meme?
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>TQ

I wish I woke up this sexy
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Teysa looks like a hooker
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>>96967866
>You wake up in the body of the last commander you played, how fucked are you?

Umm....
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>>96967930
Logically orzhov is the color of prostitution
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>>96967927
>unironically engaging with commander on youtube
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>>96967866
>You wake up in the body of the last commander you played, how fucked are you?
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>>96967939
Perish the thought, but I want to know if she can actually be made decent or if it's just retarded bandwaggoning.
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>>96967935
Based.
List?
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>>96967944
I used to play against it a lot back in 2015 ish
She was pretty good, very annoying. Im sure not much has changed
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>>96967930
Wasnt she literally a fuckdoll for the council?
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>>96967973
Whoa! He's fast!
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>>96967964
Yeah. Pretty sure her uncle whored her out to all his council buddies.
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I pull up and Discover X your bitch.
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>>96967866
>TQ
>mfw I'm Zhulodok
>mfw I am THE problem for multiple planes
I guess I'll go gorge on the void or some shit. Also, does being an Eldrazi fry your brain?
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>>96967947
I don't have it. It's an old meme deck where it's Prime Time, Saffi, Emeria, the Sky Ruin, Privilaged Position and Sterling Grove that lets you sac and recur everything in your deck and spits out all the land really quick and folds to farewell.
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>>96967866
>TQ
>tfw im both my own brother and my own sister
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>>96968036
>primetime
Man must be a pretty old deck, that bitch has been banned for longer than Ive been playing
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>>96968060
I brought it out because PT is going to be unbanned. I want to update it for modern days because back in the day it was absolutely the biggest non-blue, non-infinite combo pubstomper I saw.
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>>96968100
What makes you think its prime time for prime time to be unbanned?
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>>96968112
why is rhystic legal but prime time isn't?
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>>96968123
Because apparently everyone loves Rhystic, so they can't ban it. [Not to mention my foil anime Rhystic and Smothering Tithe would crater in value if they got banned, and I can't have that happening./spoiler]
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>>96968112
WOTC is clearly moving towards unbanning every card except for those that don't work with the format in a very, unfun way.
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>>96968136
people love prime time too btw
>reminder that rhystic was never banned because sheldon used it himself
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>>96968123
Because you cant pay one mana to undo a primetime among other reasons, probably related to repeated tutoring
But again I ask what makes you think is going to be unbanned, try to give an answer that's a little less
>it came to me in a dream
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>>96968161
i've already told you the answer and so did
>>96968142
it's not our problem that you're in denial, you are unable to read official announcements, and you are too dense to survive on your own without assistance
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>>96968196
>Prime Time, Emrakul, Dockside, Jeweled Lotus, etc come off the ban list
How much of a shitfest will the meta be?
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>>96968196
The picture does a much better job than your whatsboutism.
Thanks.
I still am not convinced though, I doubt we will see it as a GC.
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>>96968210
being limited to 3 GCs in B3 is a bigger restriction than you think and adding more GCs will further highlight that
cedh will be for the better because every sweat will readily admit that the previous meta was better than the current rhystic one
and b1/b2 babies will finally know to stay in their lane
literally no downsides
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>>96968210
>cockside
>Jeweled Lotus
Its really insane how much better the format is than before the mana crypt and co ban, I wouldnt put it past wotc to fuck this up.
>every day I am reminded how fucking spineless the RC was
I mean shit, how many people would it actually have taken to keep the format from falling into wotc's hands? Literally one?
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>>96968240
>I mean shit, how many people would it actually have taken to keep the format from falling into wotc's hands?
>Literally one?
naw I'm pretty sure it wasn't unanimous
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I want to put together a deck that punishes a few deckbuilding trends in my meta that I am tired of seeing. First is landfall, specifically that there are like 4 people with hearthull in rotation and I'm sick of it. Second is cheaty vomit decks ie cascade, discover, dinosaurs in general, etc. I think the second I can handle with some stax effects - ie containment priest, weathered runestone, grafdiggers cage, but I'm not sure how to punish landfall. Any suggestions for commanders, cards, or general deck directions to build into? I don't think the deck necessarily needs to be full on stax, but some stax elements are likely needed.
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>>96968285
>watching the Etali commander piss and shit all game and begging the other 2 to do something about this card
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>>96968196
We already have a bunch of format warping cards. Either ban then all or allow them, GC, rule 0, etc.
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>>96968281
I would really love to see the minutes of that meeting
They fucking owe us more than that
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>>96968285
Zo-Zu
call people a Dingus
I like Rivalry but it's bad, there's other red stax as well.
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>>96968285
Ive been playing a lot more imprisoned in the moon effects to deal with the random value decks.
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>>96968293
>mfw someone tried this shit on me once
>mfw Ulamog played a game of peekaboo with him
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>>96968293
Yeah this is likely an auto include too. Right now I am looking at Elivere or Arabella with a bunch of hate bears, but I feel like some kind of light control deck with evasive creatures sort of thing could also work. Neither of those two particularly excited me.
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>>96967866
>TQ
>Lyse Hext
Given the games I’ve won recently with her I’d say my chances are very good.
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>>96968317
Agree on this too. Darksteel mutation, song of the dryads, imprisoned, oubliette, etc etc are all on the "probably must include color pending" list. Cards like this are also why I'm not sure that this necessarily needs to be a hard stax deck - some key answer cards might be enough.
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>>96968319
as an ellivere enjoyer I can tell you that her time as a hate bear commander are pretty much over.
current cEDH is way too midrange and grindy for her. hatebears dont work as good outside of a definied meta.

if you want hate bears go for winota.
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>>96968285
>hearthull

Am I missing something here? 8 power of creatures to become threatening.
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>>96968293
It actually makes me mad that this card (dies to lightningbolt btw) is a (((game changer))) but something like Entomb is heckin' valid.
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>>96968335
>Darksteel mutation, song of the dryads, imprisoned, oubliette, etc.
Not the anon you responded to but my main friend group plays similar decks and these cards have always been great at keeping their bullshit in check. Special mention to Gishath and the people who bitch that I “hate target it” with those cards. If “hate targeting” is stopping a bunch of Dinos from killing everyone on the following turn then so be it.
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>>96968369
entomb really should be a GC and if the recent bans of it are anything to go by maybe wotc is finally realizing it
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>open up sonic SLD
>Chaos Emerald bonus card
It's just that easy guys
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>>96968360
Doesn't need to be cedh - in fact, I'm looking for closer to high 3/low 4 range.
>>96968367
No, other than the fact that landfall decks are very resilient and targetting land based strategies is difficult
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>>96968385
>open up sonic sld
Ew
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>>96968370
Good to hear, thanks anon. Atla palani for my group but literally same idea.
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>>96968395
Mechanically unique UB SLDs are cool and I refuse to pretend otherwise. They were an excellent midpoint for WOTC.
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>>96968405
Mechanically unique and SL should never had been a thing
Its just such an obvious fomo generator and dumps even more egregious IPs into the game that could never have made it in any other way
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>>96968420
Y'all niggas quit buying product so yeah they needed a fomo generator
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>>96968285
Boromir and Elesh Norn
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>>96968420
i just want anime waifus to have fun with and not to sweat with, i already have decks for the latter
>i already have an MTG waifu but the way women are depicted nowadays make me want to look elsewhere
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>tfw used to post pic related for giggles
>tfw its basically what were getting now
Grim
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>>96968385
Nice but also fuck you. Really don’t understand why they just didn’t give everyone one of 7 Chaos Emerald versions of Lotus Petal alongside the Master Emerald version of Command Tower. But at the very least I’m getting use out of every card except Miles Tails Prower
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>>96968431
I quit buying AFTER walking dead, nice try jotc
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>>96968451
Sorry for your loss anon. At least my cardfu got a god-tier anime artwork to piss off my anti-Japan friends when we do higher powered games assuming they don’t just up and leave when I pull it out or play mono white Cloud from the FF set.
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>>96968495
considering the profit line kept going way up I wager about six people were interested in playing MTG when they could play as negan or whatever I didnt watch that dogshit show, was sick of the comic
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>>96968492
league of legends would be an incredible UB pickup ngl
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>>96968545
Riftbound needs to implode before Riot will consider it. That said, they are speedrunning so please wait warmly.
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>>96968433
As much as the LotR set fucking sucked with all the race-swapping bullshit it did, The Ring Tempt mechanic being very meh and introducing the cancer known as The One Ring, mono white Boromir is fucking fantastic.
>Solid 3/3 with vigilance
>Shuts down free spellcasting
>Can give your creatures indestructible for the turn
Even if he just had that second one it would be a godsend.
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>>96968495
I truly thought I was the only one
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Whats even the point of UW anymore, if wotc is going to whore out the game for a cheap buck may as well just burn the whole thing down, fuck it.
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>>96968645
I think there are some people still at WotC / Hasbro that realise if they did this then they both collapse once all the noteworthy IPs have been used up.
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>>96967866
>You wake up in the body of the last commander you played, how fucked are you?
Very fucked, going by the exhentai tags.
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>>96968367
Yes anon 1 mana to sac a land and draw two cards isnt powerful at all.
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>>96967866
>You wake up in the body of the last commander you played, how fucked are you?
I'M STOKED
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Im already signed up for 2 ATLA prereleases
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Have treasures been a positive or negative impact on the game, as a whole?
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>>96968904
Negative
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>>96967866
>You wake up in the body of the last commander you played, how fucked are you?
Uh how does it work if I have two commanders? Am I in older David Tennant or inside Jenna Coleman (Clara Oswald)?
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>>96968293
Too bad you can't play this against me because Etali is any bracket and this isn't lol
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>>96968451
Then it'd make way more sense if you played a game based on sexy women or some shit and not magic. You are even less a MTG player than the sonicfag
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>Pod actually unhappy I bought the Dwight lair and have Hayking in my deck
lmao not my problem. Bow to the king of the office.
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>>96968800
They'll be the quenchiest pre releases!
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>>96968545
We doing more "way past their prime" lairs?
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>>96968545
Still disappointed they never did an Arcane S2 lair.
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>>96968998
>this way 4 years ago
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>>96968645
but they are? they are slowly printing uglier and uglier cards in UW exclusively to drive people to UB. then they can point to their sweet sweet precious data and kill it just like they did with draft boosters
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>>96968953
>implying I consent to brackets
>implying I will let you noobstomp to inflate your microcock
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>>96968973
>be unfriendly
>lose friends
>lol not my problem
sure, buddy
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>>96969037
I also don't consent to rules. I draw cards whenever I want and add life when I feel like it
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>>96969047
>using a card I don't like the art of is unfriendly
lmao nmp
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>>96969050
Well that's cheating. Ignoring brackets is just a faux pas. I'm going to pay 3, summon the LGS Owner, and tap him to exile you from the store.

You cannot counter this spell.
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>>96968973
Thanks for reminding my to pick him up for my all UB Buttercup deck.
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>>96969060
NOOOO THIS IS UNFRIENDLY AND RUDE! USING OFFICIAL MTG CARDS IS MEAN AND RUDE!
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>>96969058
He probably isn't going to care because he and the other 10 employees are busy selling products and looking at collections to buy
>hmmm do I buy the 5000 dollar PSA 10 Pokemon card or got fuck around in the back room over a free event?
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Can you guys tell me something?
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>>96969068
I paid the 3. He has to care.
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>>96969069
Something
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On the free online sites, when a game is slow to start or just slow at points, is there a reason someone can't just do something else that's short or even open another window at their keyboard? Why do they rage-quit like the other person or last man standing isn't going to mark it as themself winning in the winner declaration part?
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>>96969062
Farm boy, fetch me that ballista.
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>>96969050
Brackets aren't rules
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Who came up with the rules for them, anyway? "Moxes" are at least 4? Since when did players give a shit about things like that?
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>>96969100
>Who came up with the rules for them
The guy who makes up rules for cards he designs (Gavin) and the Command zones side piece (Rachel weeks)
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>>96967866
>TQ
I could never go outside again. Sonic fans are deranged.
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I always play 1 bracket above what I state or join.
U mad?
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>>96969129
you have no idea what swordbro would do to you.
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>>96969100
>Who came up with the rules for them, anyway? "Moxes" are at least 4? Since when did players give a shit about things like that?
Huh?
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>>96968545
Please more boomer franchises! The middle age player base that makes up the majority of magic players love seeing things from 35 years ago when they were children in their game! It's been nothing but positive responses from them seeing TMNT and FF and Avatar and SpongeBob! Fuck people under 25 who want to see thing they recognize like Minecraft or Hunger Games or Kill la Kill or Paw Patrol! They don't matter millenials will consoom forever!
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>>96968645
I too wish WOTC would give us more gay pride and interracial relationships and afro kween imagery. I'm tired of all the cute UB characters we're getting on cards. I want to see more people I'd stumble across in a Seattle homeless encampment in art.
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>>96969171
Avatar is a boomer franchise and far less relevant than most 35+ year old franchises. You always get really angry they use IPs people care about and not the newest series that gets 2 seasons before cancellation.
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>WOTC do Iron Maiden album cover lair
>don't bother making any playmats of them like they often do for SLD cards
What a fucking missed opportunity
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>>96969089
WRONG
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>>96969152
rape
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>>96969171
this but unironically. children don't have adult money yet and we all know this game is not for childred. it's for manchildren
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>>96969266
>>96969265
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>>96969302
tl;dr btw you are wrong
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>>96969266
Brackets are guidelines.
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>>96969340
so are rules
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>>96969360
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>>96969367
See now there is a game where the court rules really are guide lines
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>>96969372
just like in real life, really
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>>96967866
>TQ
I guess I settle for a life of being the ultimate lifeform. Maybe try to take over a few worlds when things get boring.
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>>96969445
And I'll make a harem of diffusion slivers to keep me company
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>>96969360
>break a rule
>get disqualified
>ignore the brackets
>no one cares except the local autismo
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>>96968953
vexing bauble is superior counter to etali anyway
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vexing bauble should be a GC
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>>96969547
no it should be an emblem that everyone passively gets in every bracket 2 game
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STAX pieces are fair and honest magic at any level.
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>>96969587
WRONG
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I want commander damage removed because I want to spend more time hitting people with my fatty.
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this card should be in every green deck and you cant convince me otherwise.
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>>96969547
Self-selecting card like Trinisphere. Only brackets where it's useful are ones you should be equipped to handle it. Yes it's retarded in Legacy but in Commander you have 3x the removal for it and 25% of the copies of Bauble.
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Just won a game because everyone went 5 turns in a row without casting a single spell while I was playing Zedruu. Let me sculpt my hand perfectly drawing 5x the amount of cards anyone else was.
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>>96969665
nice 3 for 1 you got there
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>>96969746
deep rooted value greed killing commander players again, gotta love it.
the only reason why Rhystic Study is so controversial in the first place
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>>96969746
>Just won a game because everyone went 5 turns in a row without casting a single spell
Didnt occur, by the by
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>>96969762
Literally look at the pic. They didn't want to give a draw 3 to their opponents and wanted to try greeding to get it themselves.
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>>96969767
So they started discarding cards due to hand size????
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>>96969769
or, you know, they played a land.
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>>96969772
So they were running like 40 land decks, got it. B2 moment
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>>96969258
You're better off just ordering a custom from somewhere rather than an official one from Wizards. Wizard's always sell out in a flash and aren't worth the hunt.
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>>96969665
That's honestly an interesting card. Didn't think green had too many targeted forced blocking. I thought for the most part it was just auras that said something like "this creature must be blocked if able" for the most part. That Provoke could even be used to force opponents to block each other. And a draw on top. I'll probably pick up some and try them out. Thanks anon.
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W card
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>>96969129
Been debating whether to do her or precon Sephiroth for a Boros Commander. Is she fun?
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>>96969829
No, this is a B card
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>>96969776
Hey I'm not saying they made the right play. Quite the opposite.
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>>96969829
This is going to be fun with Pitiless Plunderer and a board wide haste enabler.
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just read the commander brackets beta update post
>Bracket 2
>Gameplay to be proactive and considerate, letting each deck showcase its plan
>Bracket 3
>Gameplay to feature many proactive and reactive plays
so basically, bracket 2 is the joke bracket now, and bracket 3 is where people start to play actual magic?
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>>96969663
Right? I feel the same way. I hate having to spread the damage around even when there's a clear best target, just so that one player isn't knocked out super early. Let me deck myself out with John Benton, it'll be funny.
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>>96968285
>Landfall
Nonbasics enter tapped effects, Confounding Conundrum to some degree, Urza's Sylex, Planetary Annihilation, Disciple of Caelus Nin, Land Equilibrium and lots of grave hate I would say. I'm playing a stax deck that also plays a bunch of winter orb effects to shut down land decks cause fuck them being so unpunished.
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>>96969933
Bracket 2 is the Timmy-only game
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>>96969933
>put helm of the host on Tifa
>opponent blows it up
>get them banned for not playing in the bracket 2 spirit letting me make 20 Tifa clones with 40 extra combats
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I need a retard reminder on rules - let's say i'm playing Eshki and have enough anthems to make shrieking drake at least 6/6, do i get all the triggers on eshki or does it need to be base 6/6?
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>>96970300
Anthems only increase the power and toughness of permanents. Spells aren't permanents yet, so they're not influenced by anthems. They do let you trigger conditional ETB effects though.
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>>96970306
it seems i also forgot that she's a cast trigger so the question is moot
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>>96969062
>>96969054
Its painfully obvious you dont have friends anon.
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I cast Eternal Dominion and copy it five times. Resolves?
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>>96970476
Naw
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>>96970476
>first copy resolves
>none of the other copies can be cast or resolved and fall off the stack
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>>96970522
>he thinks he knows what shit is
>doesn't
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>>96970522
Bait or retard
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>>96970522
A spell with epic keeps you from casting spells for the rest of the game only when that spell resolves, not when it's cast (C.R. 702.50a, 608.2c). Like almost any other spell, a spell with epic can be "responded to" by Twincast or other spells (but see this thread) (C.R. 117.7). Like any other spell, a spell with epic has no effect unless and until it resolves (C.R. 609.1, 608.2c). Note that copying a spell copies all its normal abilities, including epic, unless the effect states otherwise (e.g., the epic keyword's own effect) (C.R. 706.2, 702.50a, 207.1). However, this still means Each copy you create via Twincast and friends will re-copy itself each upkeep until the end of the game, thanks to their EPIC ability. So, one Eternal Dominion plus three Twincast gets you four Eternal Dominion each upkeep, for the rest of the game.
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>wanted a legendary archaeomancer for years
>they finally print one
>It's gruul
Good grief
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>>96970522
Copying isn't casting
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>>96970554
Fuck you, Izzet
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>>96970562
>Copying isn't casting
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>>96970571
copying is only casting if you create out-of-stack copy that you can later put on stack while copying on stack is just manifesting it from thin air already there bypassing Cast triggers/restrictions
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>Inb4 that one autist starts crying again about how the game works and starts posting moronic custom cards that "answer" his grievances again
How tiresome.
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>>96970554
Toph is so hot bros
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>>96970539
>>96970541
>>96970549
You are wrong and the last person embarrassingly so cause the rule is literally right there and hes ignoring it.
>>96970562
Doesn't even matter. Nothing else can resolve after the first epic spell does.
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>>96970625
Ah, so just retarded, got it. Keep being wrong champion, can't wait for the meltdown and custom cards posting!
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>>96968545
Nah, at this point every casual league fan that just wanted a collection of league cards already got their fill with riftbound.
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>>96969171
Funny that the UBs that actually did well are things that are actively beloved by younger people also.
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>>96970625
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>>96970675
>ff is enjoyed by the youth
Lol?
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>>96970657
>AI response
Will pull from retards like you erroneously saying it works. Are you brain dead?
>>96970684
>already conceding because he knows there is no point in continuing
Smart!
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>>96970692
Bro like 3% of FF fans are 18-25 you dont get it. Zoomers LOVE spending money they dont have.
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>>96970692
Did you forget how many new zoomers XIV and VII remake brought into the series? Plus I see young people getting into X all the time.
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>>96970697
Putting a copy of a spell on the stack is not the same as casting a copy of a card. Abilities that put copies of spells directly on the stack work after the epic spell has resolved. Abilities that create copies of cards that you can cast still create the copies, but you can't cast them.
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Uh oh poopy
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>>96968960
card games are overwhelmingly played by men and while i don't expect every main character to be a woman I do expect any woman to be beautiful and not an abomination you retarded troon
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>>96970625
I know this is bait but I'll bite because I have nothing better to do.
CASTING a spell is putting it on the stack and paying the costs. Whether something resolves or not has nothing to do with it being cast. That's why a guttersnipe's "when you cast" trigger still deals 2 damage to you if you counter my ponder.
Epic is a keyword that does nothing until the spell resolves, and means that you can't cast things.
If you could point to me anywhere that says stopping casting means countering everything, that would be great.
Otherwise picrel surely would be also counter everything your opponents have on the stack for W, right?
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>>96967866
>TQ
I would go plow Tifa immediately
>>96968506
>play mono white Cloud from the FF set
Based, if I wasn't playing the Naya version I'd be running the mono white.
>>96968998
Rito is too busy pushing out their commander to distract from the slop and flop that is 2XKO
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>>96970692
retro gaming is in because let's face it western AAA sucks right now
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>>96967866
>You wake up in the body of the last commander you played, how fucked are you?
>riff
WEEEEEEEELLLLL
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>>96970813
I feel that, deeply.
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>>96970721
>zoomers getting into ffx
Those poor kids, gaslit into playing such a overhyped piece of shit.
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>>96970973
X is, outside of IX, the absolute peak of the series. Those two were as high as it ever went and it's been a steep decline since.
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>>96971014
Trvke
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>>96971014
Amen, brother. People who don't like X are just wrong, and IX is fucking awesome.
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>>96971014
>FF9
square wasn't trying to reinvent the wheel and stuck to the basics + making the whole thing a sendoff to the ps1 era (and the classic rpg design as a whole) which is why it aged so well
it also helps that it has a better love story than FF8
with that said FF9 doesn't need a remake and the only two that deserve that treatment is FF8 and Xenogears
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>>96970506
i'm taking your best six cards when i cast it again next turn you meanie
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>>96971051
Considering how absolute dogshit the FFVII remake "package" is, I really hope they just leave 9 alone. It's beautiful, it's fun, it still looks good, the music and mechanics are great. Just put it on sale and let everyone enjoy it.
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My decks have literally zero ub in them, it's a matter of principles really. Fuck UB slurpers
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>>96971051
Opposite of trvke
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>>96971090
>guys let's remake a game that doesn't need it *cough* like FF7 and FF9
>guys why are there so many remakes nowadays
you're part of the problem
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>>96968433
Boromir was my first thought too. Orzov has tons of ways to stax players. I run Kambal, people hate it. Easy colors to shove in tons of " I win" combos if your so inclined
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>>96971110
Ff8 sucks shit bro give it up. 9 is one of the most beloved games of all time.
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>>96971118
>guys let's remake sets that are already good and not remake things that are bad
>guys why are there so many ravnica and innistrad sets AAAAIIIIIEEEEE
lmao
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>>96970721
No you dont this is such a weird fucking statement. I highly doubt you engage with "young people" further than a few you see in a pod. Definitely not enough to make such sweeping statements.
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96971147
Classic pds post
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>>96971076
Based
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>>96970801
Youre right i was just bored during my morning soak.
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>>96971160
>too cucked to give a (You)
yeah i won here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGXYfyIYnM8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGXYfyIYnM8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGXYfyIYnM8
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>>96971014
Not a fucking chance!
The only 3 saving graces of that game are the (admittedly best) atb system and lulu.
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>>96968904
100% negative, they enable too many degenerate strategies with token doublers and the like.

Cards like this are a must-kill the second they hit the table because they are always played in the gayest way possible
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>>96971076
I have two modes.
>deck has zero UB
>deck has a shitton of UB like my Lightning deck that has Amy, fallout shit, and so on
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>>96971076
I'll use a card if I think it's good
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>>96971076
Acceptable UB:
Final Fantasy
DnD

Unacceptable UB that will get you targeted by me for the entire game even when it is a suboptimal play:
Everything else
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>>96971180
Yeah man we really need a remake of the ff where you fight hockey players, full of forgettable characters and garbage story instead of the ff with the best and comfiest aesthetic, most memorable characters and best story in the entire franchise. Faggot
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>>96971259
Blasphemy!
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>>96971319
>the ff with the best and comfiest aesthetic, most memorable characters and best story in the entire franchise.
>the remake will 100% fail the expectations he has in his head
>he will cry about this btw
>he also wants this instead of remaking a bad game which will 100% be better than what we already have
kekw retard keep going
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>>96971176
>>96971076
What's based about only running naya?
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I'm going to let you in on a secret.
This guy is insane.
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>>96971457
Lmao
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>>96971457
>elephant-mandrill
>no tusks or trunk
that's just an oversized monkey
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>>96971376
Thank God you have no influence
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>>96971014
IX is consistently good and has the best villain that far (though Kuja is obviously not as immediately iconic as Sephiroth is he's much more consistent, has a more defined personality and doesn't pull shit out of his ass to win), but it doesn't have the highs of FF7 and also it just feels like absolute shit to actually play. The ATB is very poorly implemented and the moment-to-moment combat feels like ass.
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>>96971376
>>the ff with the best and comfiest aesthetic, most memorable characters and best story in the entire franchise.
40% the characters in FF8 have nothing going on whatsoever (like Ultimecia, the most robbed fucking character in FF history, or Selphie) and the game forgets about another 50% (like Quistis). The remaining 10% have all their teeth taken out because the narrative is terrified of making anyone in Balamb look bad or experience meaningful consequences for their actions. Everyone looks the same and plays the same, the mechanics are both dog fucking shit and trivial to abuse.

FF8's disc 1 is one of the best FFs ever made, no joke. It's just that it keeps going.
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>>96971506
thanks for agreeing with me that FF8 is bad and needs a remake unlike this troglodyte >>96971481 that demands squenix remake FF9 which will be a guaranteed disappointment
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>2 players at the table are running new decks
>The third casts and duplicated Forced Fruition
I want to die.
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>>96971524
I do actually think FF9 is one of the games that's most conductive to a remake because all they really need to do is throw out the retarded implementation of ATB for it to be fun, while FF8 basically needs to be rebuilt from scratch because it's that fucking retarded.
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>>96971530
That's, uh, around 10-12 spells needed to deck out, right? That sounds like a lot, what's the plan to not simply die there
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>>96971543
the ATB of FF9 is a minor point that FF9 stans will either ignore or even accept it as a highlight of sorts, Ozma wouldn't be half as fun otherwise
>FF8 basically needs to be rebuilt from scratch because it's that fucking retarded.
that's literally what a remake is btw
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>>96971553
The hell is dealing with the guys running the new decks. They've got close to 40 cards in their hand each turn and they hardly understand what their deck does.
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>>96968904
It's one of those bullshit Mark situations where everyone says they hate them yet if you inspect their decks more closely that claim is contradicted because tons of people run them, but they're not totally ubiquitous, and ever since the Dockside ban, almost nobody runs hate for them.
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>>96971524
The paradigm of "bad games should get remakes instead of good games" is so bafflingly retarded I can't conceive of the broken psychological environment that could maintain it.
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>>96968904
Positive, there's a lot of fun stuff you can pull with them and they fill a good role for limited in allowing gradual mana banking as a way to ramp. They enable a few infinite combos but what the hell, everything does.
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>>96971630
fool
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>>96971543
>FF8 basically needs to be rebuilt from scratch because it's that fucking retarded
Yeah the one FF that discourages grinding is retarded. After a fucking quarter century it's amazing morons like you still can't figure out how to use junctions.
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>>96971642
i have no problems with the junction system
it's just that the love story of FF8 is bad and FF9 blows it out of the water despite the latter not being marketed as a love story
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>>96971638
A game that deserves a remake is a game that just needs some touch ups to be perfect, some QoL to not be pointlessly frustrating, or time for the devs to put cut content or ideas they couldn't properly implement in the game. FF7 and FF6 for one ran headfirst into the limits of technology at the time and were held back by them, FF6 was stretching past the physical limit of how much you could put in a SNES cartridge.
FF8 is not that, it's an enormous string of bad design and decisions starting from the moment you step out of Balamb to fight Ifrit. By the time of the Edea assassination, everything is already beginning to crumble.
>>96971642
I know how to use Junctions, it just sucks to do that. Using them and switching them around is a chore you are constantly made to do, and it obliterates individual character identity by making everyone into blobs with the same exact capabilities. They fucked Limit Breaks for no reason after VII already did them perfectly. Level scaling sucks in a JRPG and it results in retarded incentives like carding enemies to never gain levels.
And it doesn't even decincentivze grinding, your power is directly keyed to your Junctioned stocks so if you want to be strong, the best way to do it is to Draw every enemy and boss to 100, an incentive only amplfied by the fact that half the GFs, essentially your equipment slots, are locked behind Drawing them from random bosses and you are shooting yourself in the foot by not doing so.

Also the story is made by a bunch of little bitches.
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>>96971457
Wow a big body green has none of these. This is an EDHKiller OH EM GEE
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>>96971699
>A game that deserves a remake is a game that just needs some touch ups to be perfect, some QoL to not be pointlessly frustrating, or time for the devs to put cut content or ideas they couldn't properly implement in the game.
that's called a remaster and FF9 doesn't need it either
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>>96971724
If it was up to me, I'd take all the money going to any remake projects and give it all to some guy with a whip. His job will be one and only: to whip Naoki Hamaguchi every time he tries to feature creep the FF7 remake instead of fucking finishing it already
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>>96970522
Epic just stops you from casting spells, if they're already on the stack (as they are when they are copied) then they still get to resolve.
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>>96971076
Based beyond belief.
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>>96971076
What principles are in play here?
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>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>YOU CANT JUST REMOVE THRUN IT CANT BE THE TARGET
>ALSO I CAN RESPOND, IM ALLOWED TO. OK!? ITS HOW MAGIC WORKS
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>96971843
Who are you quoting?
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>>96971871
guy from last night crashing out with his thrun voltron deck using tawnos coffin
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>>96971843
>>96971895
Nobody tell him what an edict does.
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>>96971895
Tawnos would have saved it though im confused here
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>>96971285
>Acceptable UB:
>Final Fantasy
>DnD

You forgot to include lotr fallout and dr. who
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> /edhg/ - final fantasy general
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>>96972010
How?
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What's the TLA card that's a red legend that lets you discard your hand and draw=number of attacking creatures?
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>>96972061
>dr who

Shut the fuck up

Wh40k fits more than that retard shit
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>>96972104
I love my wife Miosha
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>>96972094
What do you mean how ;-;
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>>96972125
Actually Who fits everything. Dr. WHO has a way of finding himself into every situation imaginable. Its almost like its own proper Who episode that he gets stuck on mtg cards
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Coolest card in avatar and the only one I will be using/building.
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>>96971642
>the one FF that discourages grinding
Nigger it's the FF game where it's the easiest to trivialize the entire game through grinding.
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>>96971843
>ALSO I CAN RESPOND, IM ALLOWED TO. OK!? ITS HOW MAGIC WORKS
To the casting of a sorcery? Yeah you can, why wouldn't you?
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>>96972171
You are a fucking retard if you ever grinded FF8. It literally went "here's all the tools you need to not waste hours fighting the same enemies dozens and dozens of times" and you were the idiot that spent an hour drawing water from the fish the first time you hit the world map. Get the fuck out
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>>96971843
Well me and Jimbo aren't voting for Thrun.
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>>96972182
You literally need to grind to be viable for the endgame. Just because you don't grind levels specifically doesn't make it not grinding.
When you meet the first boss, if you don't grind Double out of it, you're kneecapping yourself because it'll be quite a while until you can use the spell again otherwise. FF8 literally forces you to grind to access the basic commands of the game
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>>96972104
Smellerbee from jumpstart
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>>96972197
>TLE
Forgot about this shit. Thanks.
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The fuck kind of a name is smellerbee
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>>96972083
At least it's fantasy
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>>96972209
You don't like racecars and spaceships? FUCK YOU, you're a pig and you eat slop!
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>>96972010
It would IF he used it preemptively
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>>96972215
>You don't like racecars and spaceships?
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>>96972229
So UB does fit the magic aesthetic? Or does final fantasy need space elevators first?
Not sure what message you're trying to send here.
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>>96972061
>LOTR
Niggaragorn makes this set awful.
>Fallout
Not even remotely fitting
>Dr. Who
I liked Dr. Who and I think the set is retarded and gay.
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>>96972250
>FF doesn't fit MtG aesthetic because its tech isn't advanced enough
HOLY BASED
Will Star Trek be advanced enough to fit in the world of EoE?
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>>96972161
>more black exile effects
fucking stop
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>>96972283
>Not even remotely fitting
It's just cowboy junction with actual guns instead of magical wand-guns, and actual lore.
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>>96972294
That doesn't really matter since Thunder Junction isn't a real MTG set, it's slop to try and make the UB sets more palatable to the retarded masses.
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>>96972283
>>Fallout
>Not even remotely fitting
IDC I love this crabby guy >>96967940


I think most UB sets are not 100% good/bad. Most of them have some shit cards (Aragorn) but also some good cards (OBM).

Dr. Who had some interesting card design and some alright overall cards, but it also suffered from having a lot of chaff and Legendary sloppa and just too many characters. If they cut the WHO set by 50% of the cards it would have been amazing
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>>96972313
>ub doesn't fit magic the gathering
>magic the gathering doesn't fit magic the gathering
Interesting stance.
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>>96972313
soo... what was the last real mtg set? The one with the funny animals?
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Man, I hate UB
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>>96972338
>The one with the funny animals?
Yes. Based furry set, W WotC
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>>96972357
Silence Nayafag
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>>96972153
You won't know what the council is 'choosing' until it resolves. You can't respond to the middle of resolution.
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>>96972320
WHO is fine because it was just a bunch of Commander decks so they didn't have to make draft chaff or anything.
What makes an UB set good are those weird and interesting designs that arrive from trying to describe something from another property through the rules of Magic. Stuff like Radstorm, Saga Creatures, Missy, Mr House, All of History All at Once, the like. Who had plenty, thus good UB set. FIN had less, thus worse UB set, and Spiderman had almost none, thus dogshit UB set (also for other reasons).
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>>96972222
What?
>cast will
>in response exile your creature
>tawnos ability resolves as its on the stack above will
>will is allowed to resolve
>thrun is not a legal target as he is not on the board
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>>96972338
Tarkir if we're counting "returning too" sets. Otherwise, Bloomburrow.

btw NO NEW IN-LORE PLANES IN 2026 JUST SAYING.
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>>96972290
Black exiling is a part of magic all the way to alpha anon. Methinks youre a larping zoomie.
>>96972125
>>96972157
I think from a purely art perspective, Avatar, LOTR and D&D have very clearly fit into magics aesthetic the best.
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>>96972381
>>96972426
he can preemptively remove a permanent with Tawnos' Coffin if he thinks that's what they aim to remove, can't he? they'll get to remove something else but Thrun is saved
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>>96972437
>btw NO NEW IN-LORE PLANES IN 2026 JUST SAYING.
That's not new, though. 2023 had no new planes in sets. Sometimes it happens
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>>96972437
Tarkir is where the story ended. Biggest asshole in the multiverse gets pumped full of white mana, fulfilling the prophecy of GBA.
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>>96972423
>Who had plenty, thus good UB set. FIN had less, thus worse UB set, and Spiderman had almost none, thus dogshit UB set (also for other reasons).

Truke
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>>96972486
>Biggest asshole in the multiverse gets pumped full of white mana
More like colorless mana.
This guy didnt even draft Tarkir btw, so dont let him mention it
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>>96972423
FIN naturally would have less because it's a draftable standard set not just purely commander like Dr. Who
with that said FIN is the benchmark ideal for a UB standard set and the key is getting IPs with an ensemble cast full of larger than life characters
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>>96972426
>>96972442
The permanents Council's Judgment exiles are chosen and voted on while the spell is resolving. By the time Thrun is chosen, Council's Judgment is already resolving.

You could use the Coffin to exile Thrun when Council's Judgment is cast and put on the stack, but that's before you know how the votes will go or if Thrun would even be chosen.
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why aren't the ff non-magic posters staying banned?
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>>96972516
because mtg is just a bunch of mechanics and FF is no different than ravnica or zendikar
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>>96972502
I wouldn't say just an ensemble cast, it's just that it's got to have breadth. Warhammer, Final Fantasy, LotR and Dr Who are sprawling lore and noun factories with a whole world out there full of unique creatures and myriad things to care about. Moogles, orcs, inquisitors, astartes, genestealers, malboros, there's a setting out there completely different from ours, a plane to make a set from.
Spiderman is, meanwhile, decades of stories *about spiderman* in the setting of New York. Making a plane out of New York is ridiculous, and the fact that pretty much every character is a named character means you end up losing on a ton of potential when you make them nonlegendary draft chaff.
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>>96972516
Because ff is magic now[/spoiler[
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>>96972533
>Spiderman is, meanwhile, decades of stories *about spiderman* in the setting of New York
not just that, but also a multiverse full of nothing but *derivatives* of spiderman
an easy way to uncover this truth is to imagine the spider-man IP as a fighting game and tell me how the hell is that not going to be just the same shit
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>>96972533
>>96972549
> spiderman is a bankrupt IP
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>>96971014
X had no monks, therefore shit game.
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>>96972582
>X had no monks, therefore shit game.
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>>96972570
I didn't say it was a bankrupt IP, I said it wasn't the kind of stuff that fits for Magic. A lot of the appeal of it and Marvel in general it's that it's our world with fantastic shit powdered in. Spiderman protects New York, Captain America was a WW2 veteran, Punisher was a, uh, whatever-war-the-US-did-last veteran, the like. That's a core part of the appeal and it shocks with a building block of Magic, the plane-based storytelling. Opening one pack of Lost Caverns of Ixalan tells me a lot about the world of Ixalan, there's vampires and dinosaurs and pirates, all fighting over caves inhabited by mushrooms and lionmen. I don't get this sense when I open the pack and see Hot Dog Cart
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>>96972606
yes avengers is a much better fit and at least we have that to look forward to in 2026
>yes it'll sell well too UWfags cry more
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>>96972618
I would agree but I don't think they'll actually use any of the cool and wacky comics stuff that would allow for draft chaff, going by the baffling decision to make like 3 Spidermen and Miles Morales and so.
You could take draft chaff and trash rares out of Battleworld or Secret Wars or the Negative Zone or any of the infinite times Marvel characters have went to some cool weird place full of bizarre critters. But that would get in the way of brand recognition, players would open a pack and see Skrull Soldier or Nova, Herald of Galactus and have no fucking idea of who that is. Better instead make 4 Thors
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>>96972508
Why are you telling me all this when everything i said is correct. If he wanted to protect his Thrun this way he could.
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>>96972587
He aint a monk.
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>>96972660
and yet he is
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>>96971471
>elephantiasis
>no tusks or trunk
that's just an oversized monkey
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>>96972715
No, he's just some lame ass swordsman. Not a monk.
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>>96972720
yes that is indeed an oversized (due to parasites) monkey
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>>96969668
completely false btw. There are precons based on exile strategies
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>>96972721
>aaaaiiiiiieeee if it's not fighting barehanded it's not a monk the voices in my head told me sooooooo
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>>96970399
>You made the story up!
What is your logic to this, anon? Aside from you desperately wanting me to not use cards I spent 60 dollars on. How about you pay my ass, I'll sell them to you, and then I won't use them?
This game is money and no mother fucker gets to tell me if I can use my legal, bracket legal as well cards. They were not free, I get one day a week to use them, and your ass didn't spend a dime.

Pay the fuck up, bitch boy.
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>>96970554
Actual slop card btw
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I think one of the funniest things is this 100% faith some people have that spider-man's problem was just being spider-man/ub and it would have sold amazingly otherwise.
The set was shit. It lacked barely any good cards. Even Atherdrift was better quality. The draft format was shit. It was changed mid production as well. It was a bad set that has had little impact on the game. It was a bad set and the omenpaths version was equally as bad because new art doesn't make your garbage cards any better.
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>>96972758
It's all slop
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>>96972358
How is this MTG?
>It's fantasy
So are various cartoons and they wouldn't fit either. "Just fantasy" isn't enough. There is a difference between Disney's Sword and the stone and Game of Thrones.
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>>96972772
That one is slop because that is AI art done by an AI artist. Not even some baseless accusation, since you can look the artist up.
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>>96972441
>Avatar
lmfao it is full of cartoon style meme art you would never see on a magic card before. The art style doesn't fit even if the content does and the obsession with memes the set has doesn't fit either.
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>>96972783
>Ruwen Liu
>Ruin You
BRAVO ROSEWATER
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>>96972793
Such classic magic art style and card names.
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>>96972618
>Implying anyone's going to buy Marvel Super Heroes other than whales chasing after the $2,000 1/10,000 collector booster Purple Hulk variants
>He's so ashamed of the Super Heroes label because it even sounds childish, so he calls it "Avengers" to not feel like an actual toddler.

>>96972757
>What is your logic to this, anon?
NTA, but you're trying way too hard to be a contrarian to this board, and that's the entire basis of your story, so it sounds gay and forced. If you had balls you wouldn't be acting this much like an insecure faggot.
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>finally cave and put one ring in my emry deck
>fog the animar player for 8 turns
>he convinces everyone else to gang up on me
>keep looping ring through counters bc of academy ruins
>still lose because I took out all the artifact combos in the deck and I deck myself
what are some good wincons that aren't artifact animation, karn-structs, kappa cannoneer, glaring fleshraker (they're already in the deck) or boring shit like aetherflux reservoir?
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>>96972800
magic art! Traditional fantasy
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>>96972797
This would make sense if magic cards were not game pieces or funko pop were not collectibles.
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>>96972774
Because Magic is silly putty and as long as they're committing to the bit hard enough, any aesthetic goes. OTJ refused to be a western at all, thats why it was shit. But Duskmourn committed and went extra hard on being an 80s horror splatterhouse and that's why it's good.
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>>96972800
>>96972807
Better than the stuff we've been getting.
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>>96972813
You say this every time. This endless dance of ours.
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>>96972835
>You say this everytime
Archive links?
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>>96972801
>Implying anyone's going to buy Marvel Super Heroes other than whales chasing after the $2,000 1/10,000 collector booster Purple Hulk variants
>this is just like how it happened in Final Fantasy in my head btw
also if you're this autistic about marvel super heroes then ok i'll call it that from now on so that you'll know that a children's IP is mogging UW kekw
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>>96972815
>Duskmourn committed and went extra hard on being an 80s horror splatterhouse and that's why it's good.
Literally all the 80s nostalgia slop was the worst part of that set. You're dented.
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>>96972807
God that literally looks like a fucking yugioh card
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>>96972852
first time?
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>>96972866
yugioh has prettier women than that though
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>>96972866
That's just bad art, the Jet card is next level. It looks cheap, not just bad.
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>>96972842
There is nothing wrong with this card. I like the idea of cheerleaders and track team runners and survivalists scrambling around this insane haunted house fighting crazy cartoon murderers and Cenobites and psychological horror monsters and Saw traps. It's fun, it's making use of the genre to make an unique world with something interesting and cool going on. That's really all it needs. My only real complaint was that the Survivors needed to be more rugged and have more wounds and bandages and the like but I know Magic tends to make people way to clean in other situations too.
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>>96972880
>I like the idea of cheerleaders and track team runners and survivalists
Yes, you are dented.
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>>96972839
>>this is just like how it happened in Final Fantasy in my head btw
It's what happened in Spider-Man retard. Nobody bought it except people trying to chase the Spectacular Spider-Man alternate printings (and Infinity Stone speculators). FF at least had modernfags wanting Vivi and casuals wanting their Sephiroths. There's none of that for Super Heroes yet, and if Spider-Man is anything to go off of, there won't be.
Retard.

>ok I'll call it that from now on
Good. I want you to call the thing you're defending and probably going to spend hundreds of dollars on "Super Heroes." I want you to proudly wear being a manchild with no personality on your sleeve.
Then maybe you'll realize why your wife left you.
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>>96972876
>yugioh doesn't even credit the artist on the card
now THAT's cheap, wotc would literally never
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>>96972876
>Rushblade doesn't look cheap
If digital bloom were impressive 99% of Yu-Gi-Oh's backgrounds would be mindbreaking.
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>>96970721
VII remake has sold abysmally
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>>96972903
Zoomers don't care about Final Fantasy. They care about Kingdom Hearts, and the Final Fantasy characters within it.
Prove me wrong.
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>>96971457
He's mediocre even in Kibo
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>>96972911
Kingdom Hearts has like a handful of Final Fantasy characters mattering in it by this point. You don't visit Midgar or Balamb Garden, you go to Wonderland and meet Tarzan in his jungle. It's its own JRPG weirdness soup with Disney character and a handful of FF stuff sprinkled in
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>>96971457
Looks very quenchy
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>>96972889
>spiderman was a flop so therefore marvel superheroes will flop too!
>wait marvel rivals was a success? noooo the marvel IP is shit nobody likes that!!
the UWfag is SO mad about UB being a hit it's hilarious
>I want you to proudly wear being a manchild with no personality on your sleeve.
>Then maybe you'll realize why your wife left you.
he is SEETHING
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>>96972935
Spiderman was a flop, so we can infer that Spiderman 2 isn't looking so good. When that changes we can talk
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>>96972940
>Spiderman 2
That would be TMNT, not the main marvel set.
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>>96972940
it's not spiderman 2 though, it's marvel super heroes, it ain't just spidey
and if we're going by inferences then UW was rightly dropped because it's shit and they should've done it a long time ago lol
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>>96972928
>you go to Wonderland and meet Tarzan in his jungle
While you're not wrong, you only played the first game, so I'm going to add that the FF characters' roles really pick up at the end of the first game, and they're in the main HUB world of the second, playing a main role every time you visit it.
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>>96972805
I know some, but I'm not telling some giga faggot who plays the One Ring.
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Why yes I only play Bracket 1 in my casual off-shoot format of a collectible cardboard rectangle game. Let me guess, you need more?
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>>96972935
>>wait marvel rivals was a success?
Under that logic, the Spider-Verse movies being hits should have made the Spider-Man set a success. Look how that turned out.

>he is SEETHING
Faggot, (you) have been coming onto this board every day for years just to make these dogshit autistic nonargument posts.
Actually kill yourself, Mr. Yaple.
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>>96972967
>proudly claims he only plays bracket 1
we need more like you
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>>96972953
Yeah dude, including the Scarlet Witch is going to make it fly off the shelves. Delusional piggie
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>>96972757
Lol
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>be me yesterday
>on a date
>we watch a movie
>movie ends around 11:30pm
>realizes we are relatively close to my LGS
>remember i have 10 singles waiting to be picked up for my evelyn deck
>mention it to my date
>she agrees to swing by the store
>i pick up the cards
>feelsgood.png
>we go to her place
>i sit on her bed
>proceed to show her my new cards

Just bought pic related. Anyone has any troubles running this on casual commanders? My main concern is that I already have 3 bounce lands on the deck
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>>96972935
>People are going to stop playing Rivals for Magic
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>>96972772
>guiz im sad because this corporate trading card game is using art from franchises i don't like

Christ you pissbaby geezers are pathetic
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>>96972967
most people here should be bracket 1 since they mistake 2 and 3 for it.
>AHHH HE PLAYED A GC IN BRACKET 3 AND WON WITH A 9 CARD COMBO ON TURN 12! AHHHHH THIS IS NOT BRACKET 3
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>>96972793
Yeah I cant say ive been keeping up 100% with all the spoilers so if im wrong im wrong with that. I dont even like avatar just the cards I had seen, the art didnt seem out of place.
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>>96973002
>>be me yesterday
>>on a date
What's his name?
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>>96973009
THEY AREN'T FITTING MAGIC! Unless it's a cartoon character in a vaguely fantasy-esque show making meme faces.
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>>96972972
>>96972987
>don't worry my lady we're staving off the UB menace!
imagine white knighting for this UW lard lmao
keep seething because UB is the future and you can't do anything about it
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>>96971843
Superior version
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>>96973002
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>>96973003
>why are people playing rivals when it's just marvel slop? doesn't marvel IP suck?
>no that goes against my agenda so i won't answer it
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>>96972061
Everyone hates doctor who here even though plenty of it does fit.
>NOOOO THIS SCOTTISH HIGHLANDER WITH A SWORD DOES NOT FIT
Yeah, it does. And at this point realistic actors are no worse than kids cartoon art.
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>>96972753
He's a Ronin. Or Samurai. Not a Monk. In FF the Monk class is exclusively Hand to Hand.
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>>96973009
>>guiz im sad because this corporate trading card game is using art from franchises i don't like
Uh yeah actually. I don't want Magic to be using art from ANY other franchises. Same reason I don't want to see Sesame Street characters on Breaking Bad.
I got into Magic for Magic, thanks
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>>96973036
lmfao. It really does look like fruity pebbles
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>>96973026
>lard
>those arms
Surprise surprise, the literal cuck doesn't like muscle mommies
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>>96973043
>>96973026
Who are you quoting?
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>>96973052
Meanwhile Mortal Kombat guest characters are the most popular. Some people scream and rage about crossovers. Sales and every measurable piece of data shows they are a small if vocal minority.
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>>96973026
>UW
That is in-universe, not Universes Within
Expect the UB secondary to get it wrong.
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Spiderman flopped because it was a crappy disjointed low power introductory set that didn't have anything going for it in any format. Its lack of success had nothing to do with the IP itself.
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>>96973055
>yes letting the woman dominate you is good
>it's (((current year!)))
t. femboy
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>>96973071
See pic related here >>96972772
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>>96973078
false because, um....SHUT UPARINO
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>>96973052
>I don't want Magic to be using art from ANY other franchises. Same reason I don't want to see Sesame Street characters on Breaking Bad.
>I got into Magic for Magic, thanks
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>>96973086
>ummm actually guest characters in a fighting game are just like collectible toys
Tell that to fuckin evo champs. Is MVC also "funkos"?
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>>96973023
>>96973036
The card is called Lotus Field. Font is a bit wonky and weird they put it on where the card type should go

Any risk in running this bad boy on casual commander?
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>>96973071
>guest characters
You know what's funny about anon's pic in >>96973052. Something similar to it and what you said happened in Scrubs. There was an episode that had a lot of Sesame Street cameos. It was really funny, because the puppets didn't overstay their welcome and take over the show.
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>>96973092
>>96973095
You are a pig, you care for nothing other than to consume
Your squeals mean nothing to me
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>>96972980
Thanks anon, I also got my mono-white cards in the mail today and why yes I did take a picture of them with my toaster.
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>>96973085
>>yes letting the woman dominate you is good
If you had sex you would know this.
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>>96973100
>You are a pig, you care for nothing other than to consume
>Your squeals mean nothing to me
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>>96973073
>the UWfags have lost so hard they're rebranding
bwahahahaha
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>>96973092
>Secret Lair guests artists are bad!
Yes.

>>96973097
If your pod is filtered by it, they're also filtered by Skyshroud Claim.
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>>96973100
>doesn't answer if a super popular fighting game series is funkos because obviously unique characters in a competitive game aren't collectible toys
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>>96973107
>SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THE POINT OF CARD GAMES IS TO GOON AT THE TABLE SQUEEEE
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>>96973107
>>96973108
>Exact same time
The pig hopped on his phone and submitted both posts at once.
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>>96973105
>it's ok because sex
>yes all i have in mind is sex and nothing else
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>>96973113
>Yes.
Not really. Most are better than any of the stuff put out regularly.
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>>96973125
>The pig hopped on his phone and submitted both posts at once
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>>96973122
this but unironically. Also I have no evidence but since 90% of players are male (do not ask for evidence) that also means 100% of that 90% wants to goon. Because all men do. Because I do.
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>>96972835
> post the same image in every thread
> accuse others of reposting
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>>96973126
Yes. Unironically.
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>hit bump limit
>thread raided by pro-UB shitposters
Like fucking clockwork
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>>96973139
FUCK OFF FUNKO FAG! YOU WEAR LICENSED T SHIRT? YOU ARE LITERALLY A FUNKO POP! UNIVERSAL CROSS OVERS IN THE 30'S AND 40'S?! MORE LIKE FUNKO POP MOVIES
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>>96973146
Can you explain the logic here?
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>>96973002
>she
>>96972880
>There is nothing wrong with this card.
She's an ugly black cheerleader tho
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>>96973130
>Most are better than any of the stuff put out regularly.
There's a twofold problem in that any good art they make could be used on regular cards, and the budgeting for this could take away from the attention and funds for art supplies for regular expansions. From a corporate standpoint, it makes no sense to pay a shitload of money for hundreds of pieces of art on one product line when they can half-ass it for their mass-distributed cards and focus instead on making a couple dozen look amazing for a dropbox product.

Case-in-point, EVERY example that pigchild has been posting has come out after the introduction of Secret Lairs
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>>96973158
They probably think (or have learned from experience) that jannies might actually ban them for trolling if they shit up a thread while it's still "live"
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As a newcomer to commander, I sure am getting jack shit from reading these threads. I've been hoping to pick up some insight into this game, but all I see is shit being flung and the most obvious bad faith arguments like >>96973092 Jesus fucking christ this site has gone to shit. Take a second to wonder if your response is worth your own time. I want to talk about edh.

So, on topic. What are some thematic cards for a Nicol Bolas, Ravager deck? I want to play a BBEG without becoming an immediate target.
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>>96973107
>nappy-headed ho
>demanding reparations
Kek
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>>96973177
Jannies don't ban because you have an opinion that some majority dislikes. At that point the site is worse than reddit and anti-free speech.
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>>96973178
>As a newcomer to commander, I sure am getting jack shit from reading these threads
Good, fuck off.
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>>96973187
Nah, they need to ban this shitter since he's been doing this for years. Before pro-UB shit, it was anti-proxy shit.
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>get off work
>see geezer pissbaby crying about nerd images in nerd game
>laugh at the retard
>"YOU'RE RAIDING THE THREAD STAHP TROLLING ME!"
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>>96973198
>They need to ban people for valid opinions fitting the topic
Go to reddit or X
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My favorite part is where he starts replying to himself because he's obsessed with the idea that if he can convince people they're in the minority then he wins
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>>96973178
Don't let the door hit you on the way out crybaby.
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>>96973204
If the jannies here are going to ban for racial slurs, yes, they should ban autists for spamming every day.
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>>96973178
Are you also new to 4chan? No thread on this site is actually helpful at its topic. This site has little use unless you just want to rant but da j00z and shit because you're too afraid to use twitter.
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>>96973222
Racial slurs are MTG related opinions?
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>>96973230
Yes. They describe the tier of (you)r opinions.
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>>96973107
>ay nigga you wants a job workin fo da gourd? It a gubbmint job n shiet it do be payin good yn
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>>96973240
I'd immediately stop using this site if jannies began enforcing opinions you have to share. That isn't a thread. That's a pointless circle jerk.
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>>96973230
They are essential to honest discourse. If a man is forced to second guess his choice of words, then the truth of his opinions can never be certain
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>>96973251
Probably find a new site then?
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>>96973035
That's actually kino
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>>96973167
My dream is to have a GF who players commander with me. This girl is ok with me playing mtg and talking about it, but she kinda laughed at my face when i asked if she would try to go one day to the LGS to play with me

>>96973113
>If your pod is filtered by it, they're also filtered by Skyshroud Claim
My main concern desu is to set myself up with bouncelands. Cause if my opening hand is 1 normal land + 1 bounce land + 1 lotus field... its kinda shitty
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Guys, let's get back on track and stop being so negative. Let's post only official in universe art from the vastly superior WOTC made planes depicting all the memorable UW characters we all know and love.
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>>96973250
>That's a pointless circle jerk.
Is that why you're here Christian? Are you delusional enough to think that posting opinions nobody likes and being an annoying faggot is somehow needed for the health of the thread, instead of just a constant annoyance that actively drives people away? Nobody died and made you king; I don't think anyone here even wants you or that anyone else has been here long enough or autistic enough to remember who you are.
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>>96973257
This is THE site for honest discussion. Give a man a mask and so on.
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>>96973264
Why are they obsessed with ugly black women? They could atleast make them hot ffs
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>>96973276
To the leftoid the destruction of beauty is in and of itself a moral good. They believe beauty is a construct used for oppression. They believe if they can destroy notions of what is beautiful they make a more equal world.
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>>96973257
>>96973204
Pick one

>>96973260
If you're running so many bouncelands where that's a real concern, then I would run Field since it's one color. If not, and it's just one-or-two, I wouldn't treat those cases as much different than getting mana screwed.
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>>96973276
Now now now, UW isn't all about kweens. That's only half the universes within art! We also have extremely well designed and likeable in universe characters like Loot, WOTCs original wuvvable mascot who is the surrogate baby wabie of the extremely memorable and widely known original characters Jace and Vraska!

Damn UB for killing these engaging and well done stories and characters! Damn you Hasbro!
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>>96973269
Holy poopdickschizo post
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>>96973052
Nta but why do you always use Breaking Bad and Sesame Street as examples?
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>>96973311
>Toski gets posted
>Uptick in abhorrent shit posting
If you didn't want people to notice, you wouldn't do it.
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>>96973313
Because infantile retards can only express thoughts and opinions through food/children's media analogies.
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>>96973176
>Case-in-point, EVERY example that pigchild has been posting has come out after the introduction of Secret Lairs
Called it
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>>96973306
>If you're running so many bouncelands where that's a real concern, then I would run Field since it's one color. If not, and it's just one-or-two, I wouldn't treat those cases as much different than getting mana screwed
I try to avoid as much as possible getting mana screwed because I hate mulligan on commander since shuffling that huge deck is annoying (especially given that this deck uses a set of sleeves that are cute but also shitty for shuffling). Same reason why I avoid any sort of fetch lands on that deck, and i'm even considering removing Fabled Passage

I did buy Surveyor's Scope together with Lotus Field, and the plan is that with 3 bounces + 1 field I can reliably get 1~2x the effect of Surveyor's Scope (its a grixis deck so i'm desperate for ramp)

My commander (Evelyn) draw cards so I prefer playing a higher amount of lands and leaning towards mana flooding more often than getting mana screwed, since with mana flood i can at least cast my commander and get things going
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>>96973330
>Comparing things with media references is... le bad!
>>t. defending UB
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>>96973320
You are word for word poopdickschizoing
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>>96973353
All I'm saying is that there are other shows besides Breaking Bad and Sesame Street anon
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>No Taxation without Representation
Enchantment
hybrid mana 1 cost R / B

If you would need to pay mana due to an opponent's effect, you may instead choose a permanent that player controls and exile it to pay 1. You may repeat this as often as you wish. If you must pay 10 to block, or attack or pay a counterspell, you may instead choose 10 permanents that player controls and exile them.


>Timmy's will
1
Artifact
Abilities can't trigger.
At the beginning of your end step, if Timmy's will has never been in your graveyard this game, you may return it to the battlefield from exile.

'you look like you are having trouble with all of those triggers, here let me help'
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>>96973290
If they want us to like their black OCs they should atleast make them young and hot, not frumpy 40+ year old squarejaws
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>>96973390
You didn't read a word I wrote.
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>>96973363
What would be the point of changing the examples every time? What advantage do you see to that?
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>>96973390
>>96973415
NTA but he indeed did not read >>96973290 lol
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>>96973347
>Same reason why I avoid any sort of fetch lands on that deck, and i'm even considering removing Fabled Passage
Just get outer sleeves. It makes the deck thicker, yeah, but the more cone-shape it makes the individual cards make it easier to shuffle in chunks.

>Grixis
A lot of your ramp could also come from artifacts instead of just flooding with lands. You have no shortage of rocks and means to get them out.
When someone says they're running Lotus Field, I imagine more something more like "my deck gets milage out of Voyaging Satyr, Mana Reflection, and Twiddle" rather than just playing it and hoping for the best, since if you don't actually use its quirks, it's just a land that taps for all the opportunity cost you put into it.
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We sure are deepthroating naya players all of the sudden ain't we
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today's mail report
>normal envelope with cards in a cardboard envelope taped to the invoice
>normal envelope with cards plus a custom token in a custom printed cardboard envelope taped to the invoice
>normal envelope wrapped in four pieces of shipping tape with cards in a plastic self-adhering envelope taped to invoice (printer needs a new cartridge) that says 'we stream on twitch'
there's always at least one, isn't there
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>>96973361
>Squirrels
>Randomly talking about card prices out of nowhere
>Bootlicking everything WotC does, no matter how irrational
If it walks like a duck, Christian
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>>96973441
double sleeving in edh only makes your shuffling worse and ultimately ruins your play experience
>but my cards will be ruined!
no they won't be
for one thing stop eating and drinking while playing
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>>96973421
The majority of people that you argue with ignore everything your saying based on the fact you think Sesame Street is a great argument point
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>>96973458
Why should I care?
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>>96973463
you sure care very much about UB btw
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>>96973463
If you don't care then stop arguing with people that you know are ignoring you, what are you autistic?
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>>96973457
I just like the stiffer and thicker feel...
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>samefagging this blatant
I wish jannies did their jobs for once
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what decks are best for shutting down greedy and commander-centric strategies?
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>>96973458
NTA, but saying Sesame Street is ridiculous is the point. It's an Appeal to Ridicule example. It's logic taken to a conclusion more absurd than its opponents realized.

>>96973457
Speak for yourself. Then again I've met people that were physically handicapped who played so I can't assume.
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>>96973499
Rare hidden tech only 1% of Commander players know about
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>>96973499
W/B enchantments that can fetch Out of Time
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>>96973515
>he can't stop eating while playing his casual deck full of 0.50c cards
>that's assuming they're not even proxies
>single sleeving? no my precious cards will be ruined!
kekw
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>>96973450
For me it's the ones where the invoice that's taped around the cards is also tapped to the inside of the letter. Means you have to tear up the whole letter to get everything out instead of just ripping the side and shaking everything out.
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>>96973478
He cares about his argument, not your concern trolling
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>>96973520
ah yes let me put 1 card in my 100 card deck that will surely consistently let me deal with problem commanders
removal in most decks is a holdover. i am looking for something that actively hunts people for not running enough protection.
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>>96973531
If the game didn't want me to eat then food shouldn't be a mechanic
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>>96973540
>He cares about his argument
anon don't defend yourself in the third person that's autistic
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>>96973474
Yes and?
>>96973478
Why else would I be on 4chan if not to argue?
>you know are ignoring you,
And yet, here are your replies.
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Might be pretty good with Azula
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>>96973571
I'm not. I'm just not an obvious retard who thinks "woah anon why would you use a silly example to show how silly something is use a less silly one" is worth posting.
If I made the post I'd have cut the cute cumparisons and just said "you would buy a Sesame Street expansion you faggot."
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>>96973543
Oh boy wait until I tell you about the second piece of instant speed removal.
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>>96973543
Play a different format.
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@96973122
>if you dont like the blackest gorilla dykes then you're a gooooonerrrrr

Are you the guy who cant understand any aesthetic enjoyment and thinks its all getting boners?
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>>96973543
You are actually fucking stupid lmao.
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>>96973523
Don't do this I built this deck and it sucks
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is shiko the best URW blink commander?
I'm having trouble closing out games with my derevi blink deck and red might speed things up
inb4 just play zinnia
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>>96973711
I built it and it rocks, but you have to commit to being the biggest asshole at the table.
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>>96973692
>>96973682
i mean its not that hard, you mostly just need to commit to stax or control and tailor your own win cons accordingly
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>>96972753
FFX doesn't have a monk unlike almost every other FF.
>BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS SWORDSMAN/SAMURAI CLASS GUY
not a monk in FF
>UH BUT WHAT ABOUT NON-FF EXAMPLES OF A MONK
not a monk in FF

jesus christ this site is going to shit
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>>96973755
>i don't know the story therefore auron isn't a monk
fucking lorelets, not even once
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>>96973035
Genuinely, this might make me finally quit magic
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So are you supposed to voltron and attack solo then go wide with the second combat round?
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I have a plan tonight, and after mentally going over this simple 2 part plan, I got crazy depressed.

>go to store A at 5 and play a game
>will probably be a bunch of new players in precons getting stomped while I either fight 1v1 or get stomped because I used a precon like an idiot
>jump to other store at 7
>will probably get stomped by cedh
>why even bother
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>>96973543
>>96973750
Just nonsense lmao
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>>96973810
yes
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>>96973821
>i can't bear to go to store A and fight fairly with them using precons
your depression is self inflicted and i don't feel sorry for you
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>>96973320
>>Toski gets posted
>>Uptick in abhorrent shit posting
>If you didn't want people to notice, you wouldn't do it.
Meds
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>>96973875
Stop pasting the backwards version you dumb esl
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>>96973755
Yevon's warrior monks use weapons, actually usually guns but Auron is more of an outlier. Kinoc is the Maester in charge of them. Auron was a former warrior monk who ended up losing his position and his future because he refused to marry an important political person's daughter, which is why he ended up going with Braska on his Pilgrimage because he had nothing else in Bevelle anymore. Braska actually remarks on it in one of Jechts spheres
>A fallen monk
>A man from zanarkand
>and a rejected summoner wed to an al bhed
>wouldn't it be something if we *actually* defeated Sin?
You learn about this later because Braska's legacy is wiped squeaky clean after he becomes High Summoner, not one person mentions that until later or seems to know it at all since Yevon controls the narrative.
>>96973342
dude I just referenced this game last night, absolute hype. Some character in a game said "Surrender or die" and I just remembered a Crimson Guard saying at the start "Surrender and Die" and Daxter reacting like "Excuse me, don't you mean surrender OR DIE?" lmao
>>96973821
Well here's the thing, is a precon vs precon game all that bad? Why not build something similar in power, or just a tad tweaked from the base and work from there? Could make Store 1 more fun, as for Store 2, could propose a lower power game. Usually after I play a round with Golbez, I move to Tidus purely because it's weaker even if more outwardly threatening.
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>>96973906
>>96973839
It's this retardation that really drives me up the wall. Where in any of that could you infer that it was precon vs precon?
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>>96973942
>why do people keep misunderstand me?
>no, there's nothing wrong with my english!!
holy hell no wonder you're depressed
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>>96973264
I don't see whats wrong with this card.
>she's black
She's an angel. She can look like whatever. She was not naturally born in any particular climate.
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>yes how could you tell Im a cancerous fuck?
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>>96973942
>a bunch of new players in precons
God I wonder.... just form a pod with them instead of letting yourself get shit on then, retard?
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>>96973104
Based mono-white player.
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>>96973954
>>96973979
>will probably be a bunch of new players in precons getting stomped while I either fight 1v1 or get stomped because I used a precon like an idiot
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>>96974029
speak english fucktard
otherwise we won't indulge your pity party and just say you're a faggot
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fuck it my entire deck is just going to be instant speed
tired of having to hold up interaction because of combo players
dimir is getting great flash support too
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>>96973260
>My dream is to have a GF who players commander with me.
This is the most horrible thing you could do to yourself and your pods.
Best case, and I did this, is to have a handful of comfy 60-card draft-tier decks you and your gf can play after dinner
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>>96967866
>TQ
Time to drink some blood, I guess.
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Commander sideboard

Each player has a 10 card sideboard. At the start of each game, each player names 2 nonbasic cards. If a card is removed this way, the player that banned it randomly picks a card in your sideboard to be added to your deck.
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>>96967866
>TQ
Damn they weren't kidding, hrt IS magic
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I kinda want to make a Simic ocean-themed deck with that 4cmc land kraken as the commander, just adding in loads of high-cost Serpents, Leviathans, and the like. I'm worried it might play out a bit samey but if I tailor it to be casual battlecruiser then it might be fun still?
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>>96974183
Sounds like you actually want to play pic related
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>>96973767
FFX fucking sucks so the "lore" is irrelevant. In every other fucking FF game, there is a bare handed martial artist, called a monk. Calling the samurai a monk doesnt make him a monk, just like pretending Tidus isnt a flaming homo doesnt make him cool.

>>96973906
While I appreciate your friendly tone, I still think the lore of FFX is poor and Auron is a monk in name only at best. He is, undeniably, a swordsman/samurai.
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>>96973490
If they did you'd be mad because every /pol/ post would catch a ban
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>>96974252
All FF sucks and I fucking hate that UB allows you weeaboo spergs to fight over which game is the best/worst
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>>96973421
Hyperbole harms arguments.
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>>96973787
>I am gonna quit over a secret lair
actually pathetic
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Dumb question: If I pay an X cost to cast a spell, the amount I paid counts for it's converted mana cost?
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>>96974266
Where is the hyperbole there? You're just bitching that the example is Sesame Street and Breaking bad rather than anything else
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>>96974272
>Secret Lair is somehow a completely distinct aspect of the game
This has been said dozens of times now, but Hasbro does not see the difference between UB and Secret Lair.
They don't care about card text, only YOU do as a player. All Hasbro sees is a 3rd party IP license raking in money for them. If you tolerate retarded Secret Lairs, WotC will make retarded UBs because the parent company literally does not see a difference.
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>>96974288
The chances of you seeing that card played is so small that quitting over literally 9 promo alt art cards is pathetic. Please quit though. I doubt you ever played.
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>>96967866
Bitch
I eat people
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>>96974311
Why should I have to see a card played to dislike the trajectory the game is on?
>I doubt you ever played.
20 decks and only missed 5 commander nights in 8 years, buy go ahead and tell yourself whatever cope you need to disregard opinions you don't agree with
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>>96974276
Only while it is on the stack
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>>96974252
Nah I get where you're coming from, he's definitely meant to be more of a Samurai with monk story/tone. Kind of a Ronin thing, but I will die on the hill that FFX is a fantastic game with fantastic lore (until you get to almost every bit of side content imaginable and then HOO BOY)
>>96974276
Nah not a dumb question, whatever you sank into X is its mana value while on the stack I believe, but only there
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>>96974347
Why should I have to play the game when they put in sets I dislike such as tarkir or theros or bloomburrow?
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running office cards is fun because they make even the guy playing the spongebob deck seethe.Might even build reaper king just cause of this art
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>>96974355
You don't have to, you can and should leave.
Difference is, Bloomburrow and Theros aren't 3rd party IPs. Your dislike is purely about personal taste, whereas dislike for SL and UB is on selling 3rd party IPs in place of Magic cards.
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>>96974357
>The dude from the Office is a 6/6 and can body multiple Space Marines at once
lol
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>>96974369
Rose Tyler, a 19 year old girl with no special abilities is also base p/t 2 same as a Space Marine
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>>96974379
There are squirrels, rabbits, wombats, and tiny frogs with higher stats
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>>96974386
Strong argument for japanese style power levels in the 1000s. Gives higher degrees of freedom.
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I'd rather see office cards over those avatar screenshot cards. At least one is actual art.
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>>96974079
>fuck it my entire deck is just going to be instant speed
>tired of having to hold up interaction because of combo players
This but unironically.
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>>96974342
How'd you build him? Treasure spam and sacrifice?
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>>96974446
Mostly. Some discard stuff as well, and some other artifact support and token makers. The deck is not optimized much at all because I tossed it together in a day. I'll be working on it more since it performed well despite being haphazardly put together

https://moxfield.com/decks/LApo6xBCI0qa5LA61yzoJg
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>>96974355
>dislike such as tarkir
If you dislike Tarkir then maybe its a you problem and should consider playing Flesh and Blood
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Print it you cowards
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I unironically have a lot of fun playing my portal sets only bracket 1 deck on low power tables
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>>96974555
bracket 1 is a myth
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>>96974347
>20 decks and only missed 5 commander nights in 8 years, buy go ahead and tell yourself whatever cope you need to disregard opinions you don't agree with
Yet you must have zero respect/love for your play group since one card would cause you to stop playing. Imagine playing for 8 years and making 0 friends.

> W..well actually one of them plays Spongebob and the rest also hate the state of the game
Cope
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>>96974569
Finding a full game of bracket 1 is, but it's still playable at precon near level because it just gets me ignored until I land a fog at a critical time and swing for lethal horsemanship
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>>96974540
We posting custom cards?
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>>96973264
As someone who's girlfriend DOES play Magic, she actually prefers this on to the original printing, she says she likes they way it's far more dynamic, she LOVES the not-guns and she always been a fan of Cowboys. She bought more Outlaws than any other In-universe set and when I tried to trade her this version for the original, she refused. She is a white girl that was raised in Wisconsin, who never even seen a real city until last year.
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>>96974540
Based Epser fligger chad
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>>96974611
I need a proper UBW blink commander. No Aminatou is not it.
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>>96973726
What commander?
>>96973717
Imma tell you a little secret fren. Hinata is actually the best jeskai flicker commander.
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>>96974611
I stopped bothering because cardbuilder is too difficult to use
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>>96974734
hinata best girl confirmed?
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>>96974611
Yes
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>>96974816
We're more likely to get an SNL crossover set than a decent skeleton commander
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>>96974822
Now that we got an Office crossover there is a non-zero chance we get an SNL lair.

What would the cards be?
>Wayne and Garth
>David S. Pumpkins
>Cowbell Fever
>Studio Audience
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https://moxfield.com/decks/PQhUCr6TS0CdDQTNH29sKA
what's the rest of the deck?
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>>96974870
28 basic swamps and 29 basic islands
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>>96974870
Archfiend of the Dross should be one of them since I like him
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Where is a good place for custom playmats? I've needed a new one for a while but I cannot find any with a good image and not like 150 dollars.
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Im playing 36 lands in my clavileno deck. 12 swamps and 9 plains, rest non bascis.

is this too many basic lands?
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>>96975072
>is this too many basic lands?
In a two color? No. I'd up it if anything
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>>96975072
That's fine for 2 colors. You only need to go apeshit with non-basics in a 5c deck.
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>>96975126
>>96975178
alright. thanks lads
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>the coolest Kozilek print is online only
How the fuck is this even legal?
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>>96974051
>>96973954
I understood it.
>will probably be a [table with three other people, two of which will be precon kiddies and one of which will be someone at a different power level] while I either [play a deck I made at the higher power level, excluding the two kids] or [play a precon and get angle shot on]
take some english classes.
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>>96973810
How can they take something as cool as afro samurai and make it so lame?
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Which new deck should I build first, Jund sacrifice, Grixis theft, or Esper voltron?
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>>96975347
Who is Esper Voltron?
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>>96975352
All three of those are the Playstation Secret Lairs.
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>>96975373
What Jund then? You can mix and match for that one.
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>>96974611
if you "secretly choose" you then have to reveal.
"You and target opponent each secretly choose a number between 0 and 30. Then those choices are revealed."
apparently, based on Expert Level Safe, you do the equals condition first, then the normal. so
"If they match, that opponent mills 60 cards. Otherwise, they mill cards equal to the difference between the two chosen numbers."
also the kicker line seems to be "If this spell was kicked, instead that opponent", so I'd say "exiles that many cards from the top of their deck face down. [etc]", but it's possible I've messed up the wording now.
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>>96967994
Hey, it's not his speed. He must be using the Chaos Emerald to warp!
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>>96975378
shattergang brothers
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>>96975378
I'm thinking the golgari guy who grows when tokens die and the bitch you give to an opponent. I feel like she has to be one of them since she's made to work with commander tax. I would like to run the one that makes opponents create a token when they attack each other, but the colors don't work with those two together.
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>>96975373
>make a wraith deck inspired by the anon who posted his list
>WOTC release a better version of the card right after
>even has its own built in card draw
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>>96968285
Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines shuts down Landfall triggers. Then you cast Wake of Destruction to send a message.
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>>96969746
You activated my trap card (that for some reason you played into, how foolish of you)
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>>96975389
>4 mana for 9 1/1s that can ping any target
This is offensive. Surprised he isn't also a haste enabler.
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>>96975434
If i have this on the board, and anon cast Standstill, who is at fault for the semi locked board state?
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>>96972967
Kek, you play brackets. Get on my level.
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>>96973140
The fire rises
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>>96973384
Shame on you, sweet Nerevar
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>>96975440
I'm saying the semi-locked state would never happen to me because I would obviously always have Seal of Primordium in the exact moment where I need it. We're in Magical Christmasland now, try to keep up
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>>96973384
What cards cause opponents to need to pay mana
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>>96975437
oops, he should be 6 total.
it's just a straight conversion from another game, the 'per player' is a twist for originally being 1v1 only on a game board (summon one in each corner).
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I just wanna gain a little life and casually win via Felidar Sovereign or Test of Endurance. Is that so much to ask?
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>>96975373
noooo you can't just use unapproved UB
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>>96975534
With that trash? Yes.
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>>96969023
>Season 2 was a year ago
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>>96974489
I don't think I would've hated jaws so much, local faggot built him and did all of the typical 'I make a million treasures'
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What are some good ways to make this a wincon in a mono black or green/black deck? All I can think of is a bunch of tokens and permanents, which is doable with black/green, but mono black might be tough.
It's such a brutal card when it goes off I have to play it, but effectively.
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>>96976009
What else are you going to do with him? There isn't enough shit in just red for blood, mayhem, or a madness deck.
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I AM BAKING
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>>96976080
>>96976080
>>96976080
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>>96976044
>How do I get a bajillion mana and one card in a color with rituals, treasures, and tutors?
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>>96973961
ramp and draw on the cz
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>>96967927
It’s Esper control. If you find that fun, she is good.

Be warned, the table will hate you and try to kill her immediately



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