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I don't get it.
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>>96969505>>TQ>How would you react to a playmat of her?Who?>>96969538Kaldheim is the only plane that makes sense for the angels to be tanned-black and that is because the Angels live in Kaldheim "sun". Also IDK if it was intentional but there was a angel who was pale white and the lore was that she stayed in the lower realms more.
PURIST STATUS ???
>>96969612TOLD
>>96969627YOU
>"Redline, one of the greatest hand-drawn masterpieces ever in animation, doesn't have better animation than Avatar: The Last Airbender, a mid-budget Nickelodeon program."I am in the same thread as clowns this ridiculous.
not Magic the Gathering
>>96969645UB, anon. Everything is MTG now.Yes, even Star Trek.
soonEmrakul, the Aeons TornCivilization: ColorlessCard Type: CreatureMana Cost: 15Races: Eldrazi / Zenith■ Flying (This creature can't be attacked or blocked by creatures without flying.)■ Triple breaker■ When you summon this creature, take an extra turn after this one.■ Whenever this creature attacks, your opponent chooses a total of 6 of their face up cards in the battle zone, shield zone, and mana zone and puts them into their graveyard.■ Eternal Omega (When this creature would leave, return it to your hand instead.)
>>96969655wait till you see this anon
>>96969693I do love how there's just a 10 dollar limited edition official print of Black Lotus that nobody knows about
>>96969655>extra turn >6 mana burn literal fuck you to the enemy
>>96969566it wasn't just the angels man
>Make a black angel replace a white angel>Make her beat a white man in magic using the black angel that's replace a white angelWhat are WoTC trying to tell us?
Whatever the voices in your head are suggesting.
>>96969809For me? It's the giraffe neck and tiny head.
>>96969826The hands look fucked up, probably AI
>>96969809This is just Tessa Thompson from the MCU Thor movies
>>96969827No, it's not AI.It's just a trademark of "Self taught" artists who never went to art school to have actual talent beaten into them.
>>96969655>locking your deck while seeing your demise coming ■ Five Sense Down: Whenever this creature would break a shield, your opponent puts that shield as the 4th card from the top of their deck horizontal instead.■ When your opponent adds a horizontal card in their deck to their hand, they lose the game.■ Your opponent can't look at or rearrange the order of their deck.■ When this creature leaves, your opponent shuffles their deck.
If you think you are white respond to this post with your decklist, I will converse with the leader of the white race, Varg, and tell you if you are larping or not.
>>96969921>go to art school in the current year>gets taught calart and makes shit like thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-T3qKl6y-c
>>96970383I'm not white and I played 5C Humans and Dredge when I still gave a fuck
>>96970413>Mutt.dek>Unfair random numagic bullshit.dekYeeep, 100% brown soul
I told myself I was going to quit Standard and play Brawl. But I actually start playing Brawl and it is so different it is jarring to me.
>>96970427>dredge>nu-magic
>>96970427Humans was almost entirely white and asian.
>>96970477Please be patient with him, being a pseud is the only thing that keeps him going.
>>96969797"demon" is a medieval slur for negro and "angel" was a medieval term for white man. wizards of the coast knows that Magic and D&D were based on real history and they are rewriting it because they work for the devil
>>96970524>"demon" is a medieval slur for negro and "angel" was a medieval term for white manSubstantiate your claims.
>>96970524Sounds like you just made that up to be desu.
>>96970524>"demon" is a medieval slur for negro and "angel" was a medieval term for white man.Daimon is an ancient greek word for spirit and angelos is the ancient greek word for messenger. They're both far older than medieval. You're a silly person.
When JOTC will support land destruction and mill again?
>>96970607Never. Commander players find them unfun.
>>96970607Are you retarded? Mill is more powerful now than its ever been with bullshit like Pozzed Jace and Tasha's Laugh.
I think Reality Fracture is going to be another "Future Sight" set where it hints at a bunch of characters and planes that will appear in future sets, like in Future Sight and War of the Spark.
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>>96970547
have you guys seen the meltdown from all the they/them trannies in the replies to this tweet? just because the tokens are AI generated they are seething like there's no tomorrow
>>96969809She doesn't have black hair, I think she's just olive skinned
>>96970561we eatin'!
>>96970659
>>96969505Who's the milker hag?>>96970383X4 thallidX4 sporesower thallid X4 sporoloth ancientX4 death spore thallidX4 psychotrope thallidX4 mycolothX4X4 doubling seasonX4 muraganda petroglyphsX4 naturalizeX16 ForestX4 swamp
>>96970561UHM, ackshually!!!
>>96970659Kek, did he replace a bunch of staples with owls? That's fucking amazing.What exactly are people complaining about anyway? Is there something wrong with using AI for something unimportant and whimsical?
>>96969797>So who the fuck is this even for?The Big 3 investment firms and their ESG money.
>>96970681wow those "white people" look awfully brown
>>96970659>>96970691They're just custom tokens some dude is using as temporary proxies for people that aren't going to have an Owl token lying around. People use coins, dice, lands, whatever as tokens when this kind of thing comes up, how is this even a big deal?
https://x.com/SaffronOlive/status/1988342862497325343Damn, I didn't know standard was this popular in Nebraska.
Standard is only on Arena.
>>96970704>>96970713who knows lmao
>>96970727"Local Standard" means physical cards, it literally cannot refer to Arena.
>>96970723>Damn, I didn't know standard was this popular in Nebraska.Nebraska anon here!Can confirm, it's booming! My LGS is so packed we have to put out patio furniture in the corn fields for all the extra players!
>>96970730ok last one from this debate, some sperg tried to counter his tweet with this smug shit
>>96970723NEBRASKA IS SAVING US, FELLOW MAGIC ENJOYERS!! 200% AND GOING UP!!! THE PROMISE LAND IS WAITING FOR YOU!!!!
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>>96970723Step aside.I'll save MTG.
>>96970752IT JUST KEEPS HAPPENING
>>96970730>a quick buckHe's literally just handing them out for free
>>96970723>past few yearsHow much do you bet it's because they take the COVID period into account.
>>96970792Are you asking us if we think that playing magic the gathering in person was more popular during covid?
>>96970887No anon, if they take the numbers of people playing during COVID as a base it's easy to have an increase of 200% after.
>>96970792>How much do you bet it's because they take the COVID period into account.Please understand, statistics is hard.
>>96970909Okay my apologies for misunderstanding
>>96970746my lgs didnt manage to sell out a single avatar pre-release event. 50 seats available and about 20-30 sold. they even canceled their saturday events, cutting down from 5 to 3 events over the weekend. the store was packed during FF and EOE. guys, something is happening.
>>96971220Yeah what is happening is that no one can stomach UB but the Cummander crew.No matter how much MaRo, Hasbro execs and JOTC try to fake the data.
>>96971255but my lgs consists mostly of commander players. your insult is not lining up with reality. the store should be packed according to you.
>>96970723They count Arena as "Standard play" end of fucking discussion. In other breaking news, birds sing, grass grows...
seriously anyone believe avatar can flop? because even with the hideous art i think we are doomed and the set will be succesful.
>>96971305hard to tell. economy is pretty rough right now. a couple of people I know from mtg are currently without a job. on the other side even the biggest avatar fans I know are suffering from product fatigue.
>>96969797very true. sad stuff all around. maybe the Zhalfir set will be not-terrible but I have my doubts. >It then makes even less sense when you realize no black people even play Magic. I've been playing Magic for probably 15 years in multiple towns and states in the US and I don't think I've seen even 1 black person at an FNM or prerelease. So who the fuck is this even for?well actually black people play Commander. I live in a blacker-than-average area (45% white 45% black in the greater metro area) and while FNM draft has literally no black people, Coommander night is probably like 10-15% black nerds. so, still underrepresented, but not completely invisible unlike draft and prerelease.I've even seen a black girl show up and play a few times (she was with her white boyfriend, lol)
This one for my pauper chads: this piece of shit here gotta be the most overrated card that ever played the format. Specially on the decks that choose to run it (mono blue delver and dimir terror)2 copies of Deep Analysis and 2 Compulsive Research are MUCH better then 4 of this overpriced piece of garbage
>>96971372It lets you run fewer lands
>>96971294see >>96970734
>>96971372>2 copies of Deep AnalWhat did he mean by this?
>>96971372I prefer my 17 lands with 2 Deep Analysis and 2 Compulsive’sThis is a deck that can do almost anything with only 3 mana on the pool. If youre tapping 5 mana at sorcery speed to draw 3 you probably already lost.
>>96971326>even the biggest avatar fans I know are suffering from product fatigueFatigue from what? They have the new show which isn't even out yet and the netflix live action, what the fuck else is there?
>>96971395maybe he meant magic cards lol
>>96971395He means about this, anon-kun.Future is grim.
>>96971385And how exactly does WotC get this "local Standard" data, anon?
>>96971416>>96971429> a couple of people I know from mtg are currently without a job. on the other side even the biggest avatar fans I know are suffering from product fatigueOk so that's not the "other side", that's still magic players.
>one drop is a three turn clock>two if they have a good support hand >two drop is a two turn clock>combo in one if they have a good hand slowly but surely MTG will become a one turn game just like you gi oh
>>96969797>mommy they went over my arbitrary quota of how many black people a children's card game can have
>>96971511>Slowly Magic will become YuGiBased?
>>96971511>MTG will become a one turn game just like you gi ohAccording to the shills here, that'd be a success
>>96971511>slowly but surely MTG will become a one turn game just like you gi ohBlue got vigilance.Let's just give it haste at this point.
>>96971511>>96971548You basically already know if you've lost on turn 1 or 2.If they go first and play a red nigger and you don't have removal or some way to just win on t2 yourself, it's over.
>>96971372>>96971392Retard. The main use case is the island cycling which plays great with brainstorm. Deep anal in particular fucking sucks against aggro. But if you're so good, why don't you go win some challenges with your list?
>>96971429is the unnanounced one Turtles?
>>96971305I don't think it'll flop, but it's also not coming close to Final Fantasy, so Hasbro's gonna freak.
UB is because Magic lacks a marketable cast. They tried with the Lorwyn 5 and the Gaywatch and then all those nu-nu-walkers like Vivien and Basri and Samutt but these characters are poorly written, there are no blocks so the stories don't go on long enough to even develop them, WotC's overarching narratives suck big balls if they even exist, and honestly all these characters just look fucking ugly and stupid like Basri with his faggy armor, stupid weapon, Wakanda hair, nonsensical storyline, bland personality. They are extremely uncool.So they've given up and are now just making Magic a card game Super Smash Bros. The future looks bleak as fuck. Everything in-universe is awful and the other half of the cards are pizza lands and crossovers with Marvelslop, Barbie, Five Nights At Freddys and whatever they can get their diseased jewish hands on.
>>96971739UB is because Hasbro is a publicly traded company and the line must always go up. Doing as good as usual is never, ever good enough. Hasbro is also completely dependent on MtG to remain solvent, so they needed to broaden MtG's appeal.Turning the game into Fortnite is a marketing strategy because it is a clear path to economic success. So long as the cards are still decent and fun to play with, as proven by the likes of FF and Avatar, it will sell well.Money drives everything. That they suck at in-universe storytelling is irrelevant. Line. Goes. Up.
>>96971670yep, TURTLES!!! NINJA TURTLES!!!
>>96971220Because onlyy browns care about Avatar and Spooderman, FF and LOTR actually have significant crossover with Mtg nerds which is why they did so well.
>>96971220My store has 5 sold out events throughout the weekend. No I do not live in Nebraska.
>>96971527They aren't even alive, they're an Annunaki science experiment to mine gold. Mixing the races by reproducing with them is an intergalactic felony
>>96971372You are fucking retarded man, don't ever have opinions ever again.
How to fix Legacy>Legacy is unsanctioned as an official format by Wizard of the Coast>all bans are discussed by a community committee like pauper>all Legacy cards are free to play in Magic Online legacy tournaments, entry fees remains the same>all cards from commander sets are now legal in ModernThere. Fixed
>>96971739LMAO, UB is because some suits at HasbroTM corp sold Magic ass to Disney and Nickelodeon trying to chase the success of FF that rain money over them.Spoiler: That was a one time thing and all these shitty franchises will eat a huge shit, specially when they increased the volume of products (UB specifacilly) because the more shit you throw to the wall the more chances something achieve success, the truth is this short term profits and hit hunting they are doing will harm the brand to an extent we will only know in some years. Turning Magic into Fornite is seriously the worst thing they have done to this game since PW.
>>96971818They don't give a shit about long term, that's why we're in this situation in the first place. Hasbro has been doing worse and worse, so they've been getting more and more risky with their best moneymaker.
All I care about is that the Avatar characters on the cards are cute girls for once.
>>96971795sounds kooky!
>>96971665>put 4 copies of a card that the “main use” is to cycle an IslandWow, now you convinced me! You could try, you know, having more Islands on the deck?While I agree with Deep Analysis being bad against aggro, i cant see why is so much worse then Lorien, specially against any other deck that isn’t aggro. Compulsive Research is the real deal: 3 mana, draw 3, fill your grave with 2 (3 counting itself) sorceries or instants, or discard that one land that you don’t need at this point of the game.Youre NEVER convincing me that a 5 mana draw 3 is a good card, not even with your Islandcycling cope.>>96971815Ok anon, nice arguments there!
>>96971906Post trophies or shut the fuck up, you don't know a damn thing about pauper.
>>96971906island doesn't synergize with brainstorm
did the Arena thread get kwabbed?
>>96970383Izzet Murktide with 4x Standstill
The hobbit will be the last set i spend money on. Fuck UB
>>96970383Legacy lands
>>96971906It's a common nigga it's not meant to be a good card on its own. It's a value piece and the value is controlling your draws with Brainstorm.Meanwhile, if the game does somehow stall out, and the board is empty, and the hands are empty, what do you want to topdeck: an island, or 5 mana draw 3?
>>96971906You're the dumbest fucking poster of the month and that's a pretty high bar. Congratulations. I guess all the vintage players running it are wrong too?
Every time I see Lorien Revealed I notice that Galadriel's hand is black and it takes me out of it
>>96969797I'm black. I've played Magic for about 15 years now. It makes me laugh that you guys seethe about black people on cards and deny players like myself exist, while I'm just here having a good old time!
What decks best fit each race? What is the deck of the white man?
>>96971739>Talking shit about my boy BasriFound the kike
>>96972120Nigger
>there is an entire generation that doesn't understand why the deck is called "turbofog"
>>96972154black people - yugioh deck.I have no idea why every popular yugioh ytber is black
>>96972237Blacks are huge weebs so they play the card game of the anime they watched.
>Eldraine, both sets, 80% niggers>Kaldheim, Norse Viking plane, 80% niggers>New Dominaria, 80% niggers>Duskmourn, 80% niggers>every set except Bloomburrow, 80% niggers>New Zhalfir will be 100% niggers instead of 80% Caucasian whites to be fairTypical JOTC “diversity”
>>96972237Entirely due to the anime being aired on public TV.
>>96972015Again, nice arguments anon
>really powerful and meta red card>art of broccoli-headed black zoomer maldingGod I hope this is reprinted with different art
>>96972227Enlighten us
>>96972015>anon gave a clear and fair reason why Compusilve Research could be a better card then Lorien on specific decks/match up>WAAAAAAA YOURE DUMB CAUSE I SAID IT!! WHY ARE YOU NOT NETDECKING LIKE A NPC RETARD??? STOP TESTING STUFF!!!’ NETDECK IS ALL THERE IS!!!!!While i don’t agree fully with anti-Lorien anon, he seems like a better player/builder then you.
>>96972227Is it called "turbo" because the symmetrical card draw makes you feel like you're speeding through time or something?
>>96972317yep, and that's why anime boob slop is better
>>96971372>run fewer lands>synergy with Brainstorm>always live no matter when you draw it>option to refill late if you traded 1-for-1 all game long>1 mana cycle helps you to use all your mana every turnWhenever a card is modal and multiple modes are good, the card is very strong. Even more so if it synergizes with other commonly played cards.Compared to the cards you posted (Deep Anal and Cum Research, nice one gaylord), Lorien Revealed allows you to keep significantly more starting hands due to the island cycling. Not throwing away your first 7 and going to 6 is a big advantage for a deck in terms of reliability and winning.
Hey /mtg/ are you excited for next year's Universes Beyond set, "Enter the Phizerverse"?
I play Dimir Terror with artifact lands, only 2 gurmag anglers, and 4 refurbished familiars. I went 6-1 on the 2 last pauper events at LGS. Refurbished Familiar is such a strong mid range card that is worth the artifact lands just for the cast it at a cheat cost. I run zero (0) copies of Lorien. Lorien is only a MUST on mono blue, but definetly not on Dimir. Dude has as point.
>>96972469Nobody cares. The game sucks ass.
>>96971958>fuck UB>b-but I will buy this UB, last time I promise!mtgfags get what they deserve
>>96972469>pulls out draw card>runs bad card advantage flyer instead of big threats that synergize with draw cardOkay
>>96972444Dr. Fauci is gonna go CRAZY in my Commander deck. I'm already building him! I'm so glad WotC listened to us protesting the hybrid mana change after we all boycotted Lorwyn! Now our format can remain untainted by "in-universe" sets trying to change the rules of our game just because they're a "major theme" for a plane and they allegedly work differently in some obscure other formats. UB sets never have this problem where they try to warp Commander just to fit a dumb mechanic just because some stupid old set from over 10 years ago used it.
>>96972512this. exactly the same cattle as secret lair fags
>>96969797>>96972120I knew a MTG negro about 15 years ago who eventually transitioned into a portly MTG negress with 5 o'clock shadow.
>>96972519>1 mana 2/1 flyer that nets a card advantage is badlmaoI also run 2 Snaps, 2 Unsummons and 1 Boomerang. Gonna kill my familiar? I bounce him to hand and cast again, congrats on loosing 3 cards to my Familiar and doing nothing.
>>96972512I will be fine with UB if had soulful sets like The Lord of the rings. But with slop like Star Trek and Ninja Turtles is where i draw the line.
>who draws more cards winNice format pauper ""chads""
>>96972607that's every format in the whole game
>>96972512We vote with our wallets... The other side seems to have the biggest wallet.They are planning the UB sets of 4 years ahead so imagine what this game will be in 2030, that meme comic about attacking with Iron-man and sacrificing a Whooper is closer than ever.
>>96969797WotC is based in Seattle, their suspension of disbelief is shattered if a fantasy setting isn't demographically similar to a large US city.
I want to build a commander deck based around Pauly Shore movies and memes, does anybody have a list I can work off of. Thanks a bunch in advance and god bless.
>>96969797Why would black people be restricted to one plane if white and asian people aren't
I will only give my money to wizards when they print cards in Portuguese agai .
Can UB die somehow?
>>96972733Only when Magic dies altogether. They're in too deep.
>>96969797For me, the most annoying aspect is that it just doesn't make any sense from an evolutionary aspect. Imagine someone sets their story in a desert with penguins. You'd probably ask them "Are they sand penguins or something? Did they migrate there from a more aquatic environment seeking some sort of resource?" You wouldn't assume they were just normal penguins behaving in their natural environment. Technically "desert penguins" exist in our world, but it's way more complicated than them just naturally existing in the desert. You wouldn't assume typical reptiles would naturally exist in cold environments either, you'd think they have to be ice lizards, dragons, or there's somewhere nearby that provides a more accommodating temperature for them to live in.Point is, a lot of people never seem to question why humans with a lot of melanin exist in places where the sun just isn't that prominent and will assume you're racist when you think that's weird or unrealistic. In Magic's case this is generally an issue with Innistrad and Kaldheim. It's really bizarre to me how some people treat this characteristic as entirely random when it's anything but. If you want black people in your game or story, just have it so that they came from somewhere that had a lot of sun. No player bats an eye when they see Teferi in a dimly lit plane because they know be came from Jamuraa, a large continent with various deserts.
>>96972765>Point is, a lot of people never seem to question why humans with a lot of melanin exist in places where the sun just isn't that prominent and will assume you're racist when you think that's weird or unrealistic.Because that's a dumb fucking thing to care about. If you're going "evolutionary sense," why are all planes full of the same exact race when evolutionary pressure shouldn't have allowed them to form again? It should not be possible for Kor to exist simultaneously in Zendikar and Dominaria, and yet they do. Why are goblins forming so closely in multiple planes? Why are dragons identical in half the planes when, again, evolutionary pressures?The answer is that evolution is flat out irrelevant to the timeframes of Magic and should not have had any time to set in. No story in Magic takes a million, or even 100.000 years. Evolution just didn't happen, and humans are clearly not independently reforming in all these planes.
>>96972733ninja turtles, spoodermans and fagatars are here to stay forever as a part of this game
Rate my life gain deck. Is there anything I can do to improve it?
>>96972817Take out Banishing Light, replace it with Get Lost. It's just not a good card by modern standards.
>>96972733Is too late, dude, turtles, heroes, villains and starships are now part of this game just like anime waifus and hobbits!!! They are in charge now!!!KAMIGAWABUMGA, UBCHADS!!!
>>96972825Thanks
The true despair will be when the next rotation happens and the majority of Standard is UBslop.
>>96969505Post more Magic Milkers, please.
>>96972912Imagine the 2026 World championship when the final decks become Picard control with some TMNT strong blue cards and Bilbo Midrange with ATLA, Marvel and LOTR cards.Will be so hilarious, LMAO.
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>>96972317>every set except Bloomburrow, 80% niggersbelieve it or not Tarkir Dragonstorm had zero black people... don't think it had any white people, either, but. still. that didn't stop them when it came to NEO lol
>>96972593>soulful sets like The Lord of the rings.
>>96972798>The answer is that evolution is flat out irrelevant to the timeframes of Magic and should not have had any time to set ineh not totally
>>96973028That shit's magic, not evolution. The card has morph even.
>>96973028The entire tarkir arc happens in the timeframe of 1000 years, nowhere enough for any real evolutionary adaptations to set in.
>>96973028Those creatures were explicitly altered by ugin dragon magic or some shit like that. Anon's right, the Magic universe is almost certainly a creationist one.
>>96973012>Nigga last I checked, Theodenzel was kang!>Where wuz Gondor when niggas was wildin out? Where wuz Gondor when niggas wuz gettin laid out in the streets?! Where was Gon…naw nigga, we’s be on our own
>>96973112Yeah, life just springs around in the same shapes around mana. Sometimes different, sometimes not. Humans show up almost everywhere because they're the middle ground. If there's blue, cephalids and merfolk. Red, goblins. Green, elves. Abiogenesis literally is a thing in magic, species probably just either come through dimensional portals or show up as mana converges into life or some shit like that.
>>96972798>why are all planes full of the same exact race when evolutionary pressure shouldn't have allowed them to form again?They're not, and even if they were, that could just demonstrate humanoid characteristics as being the optimal form of a sentient species, which is much more believable than black people in places with not that much sun.>It should not be possible for Kor to exist simultaneously in Zendikar and Dominaria, and yet they do.Could just be convergent evolution. They were more than fine using that excuse for EOE's Eumidians and Kavs.>Why are goblins forming so closely in multiple planes? Why are dragons identical in half the planes when, again, evolutionary pressures?>The answer is that evolution is flat out irrelevant to the timeframes of Magic and should not have had any time to set in.I think you're missing the point. The point isn't that everything needs to make perfect sense, it's that black people in places without the sun or ANY other explanations as to why they're different makes way less sense than dragons appearing the same from plane to plane (they usually don't btw). Dragons are inherently magical creatures, humans are not. Humans come from the real world, Rootwallas and Homarids don't.
>>96973172>Could just be convergent evolution. They were more than fine using that excuse for EOE's Eumidians and Kavs.They literally don't, Tezzeret explictly notes that is not normal and compares it to templates being reused because they work. There is 100% an intelligence or some natural law that forces life to show up in specific ways in every plane.
>>96970723>>96971385The LGS are just lying about the data to keep the goodies coming. It really is that simple. Anyone who likes Standard and wants to play locally is aware of this.
>>96973172>>96973183Omenpaths are literally going to be the bullshit excuse for retconning everything for the past 8 years of forced diversity.Niggers in a frozen Viking world? OmenpathsInnistrad suddenly becoming majority black and brown? OmenpathsThis is their free ticket to bullshit away any criticism for a race or nonhuman race( niggers and beaners) to appear or not in whatever world they wish.
>>96973172>They're not, and even if they were, that could just demonstrate humanoid characteristics as being the optimal form of a sentient species, which is much more believable than black people in places with not that much sun.There are numerous cases of dimensional portals across the planes. The entire Empire of Madara formed by the means of a Kamigawa migrant. It is not unbelievable that black people might have migrated from a sunny plane to a cold one, and the timeframes of Magic are never enough for evolution to take away things like that. Kaldheim, the one people bitch about, literally is defined by portals between its realms. Ravnica is an urban jungle where most of nature has been obliterated; natural climates have become thus irrelevant. Kamigawa has sunny places, just like Japan has sunny places and dark-skinned ethnicities.
>>96973172>dragons appearing the same from plane to plane (they usually don't btw)Literally every standard legal set since RIX (2018) to DSK (2024) has had a dragon in it. They don't all look the same, but they're all dragons and plenty of planes they show up in make no sense for them. What's the explanation for that? Blah blah blah, Ur-Dragon and literal magic.>Dragons are inherently magical creatures, humans are notWhy does that matter? They're humans in Magic, they're not from the real world.
>>96973172>Could just be convergent evolution. They were more than fine using that excuse for EOE's Eumidians and Kavs.That's not how convergent evolution works, bats and birds don't look identical. And both of these aren't convergent evolution. The universe of Magic is 100% abiogenic creationist; if you have red mana some red mana species will show up eventually, that's really just it.
>>96969637>expecting taste from people who play mtgyour fault anon
>>96973273Now that we have Arahbo and the Scions of the Ur-Spider I wonder if there's an Ur-Human or Ur-Elf lol
>>96973183>Tezzeret explictly notes that is not normal and compares it to templates being reused because they work.That's just his assessment though, right? It could just mean he assumes it's intelligent design when it could just be evolution. Would be kinda funny if Magic's world was implied to follow creationist reasoning thought.>>96973227I never said anything about Ravnica or Kamigawa, those planes mostly make sense demographically. I'm just gonna have to take your word for Kaldheim, because I just don't like that plane in general, regardless of the demographics (it's as close as we've ever come to another Rabiah, in my opinion). Either way, black people on Innistrad still seems a bit far-fetched to me, at least pre-Omenpath.
The new bloodghast combo looks mean in Standard.
>>96973301There almost certainly is, it would make a lot of sense.
>>96973314What's the combo?
Do Lhurgoyfs exist only in Dominaria or have we seen them anywhere else?
Forrest Gump UB when?
>>96973326Only in Dominaria. Maybe they'll reuse them when we get to go back to Sothera/the Edge as aliens, but they have such a limited space I can't really imagine any other place for them to go
>>96973273>Why does that matter?Because we know what humans are. We will NEVER know what dragons or goblins are. We can just make up whatever we want about them, and there's no evidence (at least that I know of) that humans in the Magic world are any different than humans in the real world, especially with all the modern aspects they've "integrated" into Magic.>>96973288>bats and birds don't look identical.Neither do the Kavu.>And both of these aren't convergent evolution. The universe of Magic is 100% abiogenic creationist; if you have red mana some red mana species will show up eventually, that's really just it.If you wanna see it that way, then that's fine. I'm just saying I have no reason to believe my assessment is invalid.
>>96973321Beifong Hunters, Bloodghast, Umbral Collar Zealot, Vinelasher/Scavenger's Talent.Basically a landfall loop that pings or mills opponent to death.
>>96973354>that humans in the Magic world are any different than humans in the real world, especially with all the modern aspects they've "integrated" into Magic.Humans IRL can't knock out bears with their bare hands, which Magic humans can
>>96973364We definitely can. We just need the bear to not be able to fight back.
>>96973354>there's no evidence (at least that I know of) that humans in the Magic world are any different than humans in the real worldWhat the fuck are you talking about? You're telling me you can't tell the difference between humans that cast magic and fight dragons vs humans in the real world? People are exploding buildings with their mind and teleporting into other worlds, and you're saying there's no difference?
>>96973354>this art is so unrealistic, why is he black??>the fire coming out of his hands is cool though, maybe that's convergent evolution
>>96973395Well, Magic humans don't. So that's a difference.
>>96973414yes
>>969719065 mana draw 3 isn't good on its own, there's a reason nobody is playing cards like that. 5 mana draw 3 as an alternate mode to what is effectively a tapped land that has additional brainstorm synergy in a format without fetches is fantastic.
>>96971906A 6/5 for 6 mana that can't be blocked is unplayable: Troll of Khazad-Dum is banned in *Legacy.*Generous Ent, Oliphaunt, Eagles of the North are all playable. Having the ability to pay 1 to fetch a land is really good on any card.
>>96973679>Troll of Khazad-Dum is banned in *Legacy.*as someone that does not keep up with the format, is there some crazy reason for this that i don't understand
>>96973718I don't play it either, but from my understanding: the swampcycling is basically a tapland that plays really nice with brainstorm. It also plays well with reanimate, since it puts itself in the graveyard. The ability basically reads as unblockable, and it dodges some of the popular removal in the format.
>>96973718It's 1-mana tutor any Swamp that also Entombs a creature. It was mana fixing, an on-demand shuffle, graveyard filling AND a proactive kill condition that dodged lots of strong removal cards.
>>96973718The brainstorm synergy really can't be overstated, it was mostly used in dimir decks. Brainstorm is really good when you can shuffle away those two cards, being able to more reliably do that is big.
If land tutoring/shuffle is so good, will anyone be playing Aang's Journey?
>>96971372>>96971906You fundamentally don't understand the concept of opportunity cost and it shows.
>>96973779The difference between 1 mana do literally anything and 2 mana do that same thing is the single largest gulf the game can possibly have. Lightning Strike is okay and often chaff. Lightning Bolt is format-defining.Also all these 1-mana cyclers have a threat packaged with them. They're often just never bad to have on hand.
>>96973779No, because it costs 2. Unless there's some crazy learn card, it won't happen.
>>96973364There are a few documented cases of irl humans winning in hand-to-hand versus bears.
>>96972120You are a rare breed, you must admit.
>>96973718>is there some crazy reason for this that i don't understandit does everythingit's a cheap shuffle for brainstormit finds you a basic swamp when your mana is under pressure (wasteland/blood moon/back to basics)it finds you a underground sea when you need to fix your mana off a wastelandit finds you a surveil land when you gotta improve the quality of your next drawit bins itself for reanimateit effectively kills in 3 hits because people will fetch down to 18 life oftenit's effectively unblockable because nobody is gonna able to keep up 3 creatures every turn to block itit survives snuff out which is the best removal for big creatures in black decks without plowif the game goes really long and the graveyard is locked, you can just hard cast it for 6 manawhen you combine all of that into one card, it's really fucking good
>>96973364imagine the mountain or other strongmen doing it. might be possible.
>>96973718Troll is just incredibly versatile. It fixes, it shuffles, it threatens and sets up for other cards. It's not just a tapped land, its an Underground Sea for Daze, a basic Swamp to answer Blood Moon, all that plus a nigh-unblockable threat that, push comes to shove, can simply be animated again when the opponent runs out of removal while Entombing itself for free.It offers everything in one package and frees up space for tons of other things. Every Dimir Reanimator deck was running it as a 4-of because why wouldn't you.
>>96972817Try out the 1 drop/plains warp angel and see if it helps you
>>96969505HOLD UP. Is that the woman who fucked two MTG pros?
>>96971366My favorite depiction of blacks in MTG. Quite a realistic and historically accurate depiction of Zulu warriors too.
>>96973718Banning Troll was pure cope. Up until like the week after people were swearing up and down that Reanimator would be a fair tier-2 deck if it was banned.
>>96971366>>969740431990s MtG was peak
>>96973997You mean starfield shepherd? It's not a one drop unfortunately. I considered it, but It's just not worth the cost.
>>96974278They, and everyone else, knew fully well that entomb was the problem card a long, long time ago but they were coping hard thinking they could ban around banning a staple of the format.
>>96969505>>96972917>>96972966>>96972969Milkers: The Gropening.
>>96974278Troll WAS a powerful tool for the deck, it's just that it wasn't enough to ban it. Hopefully with Entomb it'll go down.
>>96974338It never was. Atraxa is the problem.
>>96974384Yes it was good, but it was also what, the 4th best consistency engine in the deck? Anyone who seriously thought Swampcycling was what pushed the "fast combo with FoW backup" deck over top needs help.
New Remyhttps://youtu.be/RxI02M98Z1g
>>96974562>Pauper>least powerful formatThis retard doesn't play magic. Dumb unfunny grifter.
>>96974682its hyperbole you autist
>>96974384probably gonna bring back archon with unmarked grave. they can't fetch legends and they need to pull more threats since they can't tutor.
Anyone here do card authentication? What magnification level loupe do I need?
>>96974970nah, they'll put in 3 atraxa and maybe careful study or collective brutality.
>>9697500412x
>>96975095Thanks
Question, what happens when the format "restarts" next year? Do all my current standard decks become unusable?
Why does Lorien Revealed have Islandcycling anyway? Isn't Lorien a forest in LotR?
>>96975237It's because they're blindfolded when they enter, due to the elves being mistrustful of Gimli the dwarf. So the reveal is when they see the forest around them for the first time. The sense of wonder and discovery is blue, so it's a blue card.
>>96975237They ejaculated so hard it creates an island.
>>96975274But the Islandcycling will come into play before the card itself. What does finding an Island have to do with seeing Lorien?
Will white ever get good life gain payoff cards?
>>96975314Faggot Angels is one of the most braindead decks in Pioneer
>>96975320I'm talking about standard. They have extremely limited options right now.
>>96975303It's a blue card, so it gets islands.
>>96975314Wizards is never going to let mono white actually use life for anything, so probably not no.
>>96975314Haliya? Exemplar?
>>96975395I HATE BLACK. Fucking vampires.>>96975410Haliya is a support card, and exemplar is just another counter card that dies to any removal and can be blocked by a 1/1 flying token. I'm talking about cards that enter the battlefield strong because you have a lot of life, not cards that become strong if you gain life.
>>96975451Elenda?
>>96975495Exactly, just without the need to play swamps.
>>96974023
Which deck box do you guys use?
>>96975544A cardboard box.
>>96975495White/Black lifegain plays very differently from mono white.
>>96975544I just wrap a rubber band around my deck and stick it in my cargo pocket
>>96975516
>>96975613I'm so sick of every knight being a strong black womyn.
>>96975613She has the same problem as the rest of the counter gang in that she has no protection and needs to be buffed up. I want an actual boss for mono white that isn't just a 5/5 vanilla angel. I want an a card thats actually powerful because you have a lot of life. Something that actually gives your life points a purpose beyond hustle being a buffer for damage.
>>96975654and if they had big milkers?
>>96975587Is it not uncomfortable?
>>96971429i hope the legendary spock makes the game as unfun as possible so i can run it in my "fuck this pod im out" commander deck
I think I'm buying the Academic deck box
>>96975813I don't drink milk chocolate.
>>96975978Why?
"Ancestral Recall in Standard" seems kinda playable
>>96976097>Three lessons before it comes online Garbage
What do you think of the ATLA set?
>>96976097some of the lessons are kinda playable
>>96975314The deck desperately needs more floating effects. I would be extremely happy if we got more cards like channeler down the line. >>96975320>>96975410>>96975613Mono white life gain has no real power house creatures at the moment. They dont run anything over 4 mana because there's nothing to run. You live and die by your boosted creatures, none of which have any kind of protection outside of protected by ghosts.
>>96976097>Need a few shitty lessons in your graveyard just to draw more shitty lessonsEven insect tribal is better than this.
>>96972733we make preUB format
>>96972386>>96972394NTA, but the "Turbo" in deck names comes from the use of Howling Mine to refill your hand so you could do the thing every turn. So "Turbo Fog" wasn't just a control deck with Fogs, it played Howling Mine to draw multiple Fog effects each turn. The same is true with Turbo Stasis, where it wants to draw land each turn to pay for Stasis and save up for Boomerang. Turbo Zoo was one of the first Type 1 decks (AKA Vintage). But, instead of using Howling Mine, it used as many draw 7s (Wheel of Fortune, Timetwister, etc.) as was allowed in order to keep Black Vise up and running. The Turbo Turns deck with Kami of the Crescent Moon in Modern to power out Time Warps is probably the most recent iteration of an actual turbo deck to see play. The use of Howling Mine packages isn't as good as it used to be since more free spells have made their way into the game, combined with better draw engines like Jace the Mind Sculptor and The One Ring.
Anyone going to the Avatar: The Last Airbender pre-release?
>>96976555>Anyone going to the Avatar: The Last Airbender pre-release?xD Good one, anon!
>>96976555>Shill trying to gauge interest in the new show and the MTG release Begone
>>96976555I've not been to a prerelease since ZEN.
I wish some of these avatar cards didn't have this shitty cartoon artwork. Some would be okay in my cube. Oh well, won't be buying shit from those ferals at WoTC
>>96976555
>>96976015I just find black women 1. ugly 2. stinky and 3. have terrible personalities. There is nothing they have to offer.
>>96976646I was asking about chocolate milk.
>>96976555>Anyone going to the Avatar: The Last Airbender pre-release?
>>96976555Yeah, I'm signed up for two
>>96976660If we're talking literally I don't drink it because it makes me fat.
