Made a cult. All the best cults have sex in them. Body count is very high, don't know the number.

I don't like that nosferatu was made one of the 5 clans in VtR. Nobody wants to play an ugly creature, especially when they can't have a redeemable personality and are just nightmarish creatures through and through.

So what do you guys think of the other Blood Storage powers?
>>96974806
>>96974800

>>96975355
make a full list again, I'm too lazy to reread everything

>>96975371
* Envelope
You may mystically store a single object within your Vitae to pull them out at a later time. By spending a blood point & exposing the item to the blood within your body (either by slicing a skin deep wound large enough to fit it (at least one wound), or by swallowing down your throat. This dissolves any item & makes it one with your own blood. At any point later on you may pay one blood point to retrieve the item either through the throat or by opening a wound doing at least 1 lethal damage.

Roll Stamina+Discipline & consult the chart for how large an item you can fit, if you fail you must spend another blood point to try, but you can do not need to reopen a wound if one already exists. You cannot attempt to soak the damage

Difficulty 7, 1 lethal
A Book, Handgun, dagger or a reasonable quantity of small items like coins or bullets
Difficulty 8, 2 lethal
A sword or cane
Difficulty 9, 3 lethal
A great sword or staff

** Voluminous Vitae
You may absorb a number of singular items or a reasonable quantity of small items equal to your Bloodpool + Discipline

>>96975397

*** Blood Diving
You may reverse the nature of your blood storage, instead of absorbing an object into your blood, you may instead opt to be absorbed into a pool of blood instead. If there is a sizeable enough puddle of blood (enough to stretch continuously the same surface area as the widest part of you (usually the breath of your torso) you may pay three blood points to be absorbed into it. You may leave at any time. This process can protect you from the sun, but you still torpor. If the puddle is disrupted enough to loose cohesion or shrinks smaller than your surface area, you are immediately expelled. If a kindred tries to drink you while using Blood Diving you may reflexively expell yourself instinctually, but during the day follow the rules of waking up from torpor, & if youndo not expell yourself can be subject to diablerie similar to the guidelines of Blood Form

*** Unsheathed Armament
You may extrude an object from your body following the normal rules of Blood Envelop, but you need not relinquish the item fully from your body, while you must pay the cost to extrude it as normal, reabsorbing costs nothing. When you extrude an item, you can do so as if using it, this means you may fire bullets from an absorbed gun out of your open mouth or through a wound, say in your open palm using the stats of the gun & all normal firing bonuses unless shot from an improvised position. When fired this way, ignore magazine limits using instead the number/capacity of absorbed bullets

>>96975404
***** Sanguine Disarmment
If target by an attack, you may attempt to absorb the weapon or projectiles as a reaction using Blood Envelope but the damage is Aggravated

*****-* Blood Rider
By swallowing a person over a lengthy process taking an hour, you can attempt to carry a person in your blood. Roll Stamina+Discipline, & take a number of bashing wounds equal to the number of health levels of the creature you ingest. These wounds can be healed by expending blood over time but cannot be soaked. The creature stays within you till pulled out dealing lethal damage equal to its health levels, these wounds cannot be soaked, but current lethal damage counts towards the total (if you have an unhealed knife wound, you can count that damage towards the total damage needed to free the blood rider). If the blood rider is a kindred, you may even attempt to diablerize them as if they were using the power Blood Form. If the creature is not pulled out by the sunrise of the same day it was swallowed, it bursts free, dealing Agg damage

>>96975335
Hitting close to home, huh?

>>96975407
*****-** Sanguine Retreat/Blood Palace
You may over long hours paint a physical location with your vitae, usually the size of a bedroom or parlor. You must paint the walls, the ceiling & the floor. You must close every door, window & every other opening to create a sealed room, any opening in architecture must be boarded over. It must done all in between one sunset & the next sunrise, the Blood Point cost is 50 minimum but can be paid throughout the process & does not need to be spent all at once. More blood may be paid to paint larger areas but still must all be done in one night & costs about 30 blood points per extra room. Once complete you must pay one permanent Willpower Point. Your blood absorbs the inner space of the entire room & all objects within save yourself. No other person or creature can be within the painted space or the process fails to complete. At any point you use Blood Diving in the future, you may pay a temporary Willower point to instead find yourself in this Liminal space. The same rules for disrupting the puddle also apply to the Retreat, expelling you. You may bring others with you

>>96975301
>How's your character's seduction? They got a solid bodycount?
The last WoD character I played was very alluring but was in fact a virgin.

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How would you homebrew solar sorcery?

Is the lasombra ante dead dead? Seems odd that tzimesce managed to escape but the lord of shadows got ganked

>>96975456
>dead dead
Yes but no. Unlike the [Eldest] there's just less hints that he's alive getting chased like Jerry in the Abyss.
If you take one of the Gehenna, or ToJ, scenarios to heart he can come back seething eternal and enshrouds the Earth to soul suck humanity. He's kind of anteclimatic since they never really developed the Abyss.

>>96975452
Wrong thread. You want this one: >>96905609

>>96975452
Why is it specifically celtic?

>>96975452
By watching Jojo part 1.

I love trying to read my pdf and them my browser decides time's up and everything is a black screen now. I was specifically trying to read the lasombra book so I guess it fits, still pisses me the fuck off

>>96975555
Anon... your PC just got hacked by the SI. Hurry. Get out of there. You don't have much time.

>>96975555
wasted quads...

>>96975555
schrecknet's been compromised, get the fuck out of there.

>>96975397
cool ideas. feels a lot like a branch/extension of a blood sorcery than its own discipline, though

Qs:
- are items that are stored within your vitae get "magicked away" into the magic blood dimension, or can they "do things"?
for example: if you store blood bags inside yourself, can you pop them while they're inside of your vitae for a quick boost, or do you have to pull them out of this blood dimension before cracking it open?

- what happens if you absorb items covered in a poison?

- does the temperature change? if you absorb something cold, does it remain cold? in the same sense, can you absorb something hot without taking damage? I imagine a bullet to be pretty hot if you manage to absorb one

>>96975404
- can you use blood diving and get stored into a bottle of blood, or do you automatically get expelled if someone tries to collect it? if you can, can you also exit out of that bottle voluntarily, or are you pretty much trapped like a genie?

>>96975415
I don't hate VtM nossies because they have the potential to be """good""" guys
despite their monstrous looks, they aren't actual monsters. they may choose to behave like monsters by their own accord, but that is due to how others percieve and judge them

VtR nossies are le evil nightmarish freaks, just standing next to one causes nightmares, wow very cool and fun and interactive in this social game. Why on earth would you want to play one

>>96975529
>Occam is Celtic (On account of his mother I believe)
>JJBA Part 1 is in England
>It's much easier to work in OC hedge magic if it's part of cultural traditions they can ape
I don't think it's Celtic in particular for a special reason but rather it just worked out rather well to make that character work and somewhat explain how hedge magic works in the setting, and thereby differentiate it from Vampiric/Werewolf/Real Mage Hours sort of powers by requiring Occam to charge up his energy.
I would guess, as these guys are generally pretty decent writers, that this also is to place some suspicion on Markus seemingly engaging in instant no preparation magical effects during the bar scene despite those scenes clearly being more comedic in nature

>>96975642
Standing next to VtM Nossies unnerves you on account of how freaky-deeky they are but I get where you're coming from. I suppose there's a reason VtR isn't as well regarded though it's got a more redeemable traits than say V5

How do I get a satyr GF?

>>96975642
>VtR nossies are le evil nightmarish freaks, just standing next to one causes nightmares, wow very cool and fun and interactive in this social game.
First you fags complained the Nosferatu weren't cursed enough and were just "weird" and didn't suffer any real drawbacks compared to VtM Nossies, now you're doing the opposite. Which one is it?

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I'm writing out a sabbat game and I'm a little stuck on what to do. Because I's like to have the cotire/pack actually fighting the influence of the antedeluvians, stopping gehenna, all that high minded stuff, or at least thinking they are. How can a pack of shovelheads do that? How is it the sabbat goes about doing their holy war, when that are actually doing said holy war. How do I make it a game where they're the sword of caine and not only murderhobos?

>>96975301
>tq
My last character's preferred method was to seduce people and feed at or near the moment of climax. Figured the intimacy and ecstasy of the kiss made the perfect cover for feeding. Sometimes he got a little alcohol or coke in his system which would lead to some shenanigans.

One time I got a heavy dose of LSD and the Malk pc used obfuscate to pretend he was my spirit guide while leading me around the city to do find "the holy grail" which turned out to be a sabbat pack's vaulderie cup.

>>96975752
>Ventrue Anti-tribu
That's my flavor of amoral sociopath

>>96975726
Be genuine, interesting, and genuinely interesting. Grandmaster challenge, I know.

>>96975752
>how can a pack of shovelheads do that
I think by being competent and occasionally scaling up, diablerie, debating philosophy. That said though
>Sword of Caine
>Not murderhobo's
Come on now, even then your average players are going to take the Sabbat as an excuse to be the type of insane Vampire supremacists that would be murderhobo's, and it'd be a happy exception if they weren't. Probably try corralling them with likeable "reasonable" Sabbat copium-believer NPCs

>>96975735
>4chan is 1 person

>>96975624
I know it's kinda Blood sorcery, oh well, let Caitiff have some fun for once.

As:
- Yes. Items are magicked away into the blood storage dimension. Nothing can be used if stored, the bloodbags/etc would need to be expelled first before used.
- The Blood Dimension is separate from the kindred's blood, depending on the STs arbitration they may rule that enough contact was made with a poison or a red hot object to have extra damage/carrier effects. Personally I would not rule too favorably in that direction since the item is only in contact with the users blood for a moment before being fully absorbed.
- Temperature would transfer & persist on/after absorption. A red hot object would still be hot when expelled
- You could blood dive into a bucket as long as it's wide enough to fit your widest part, so if it was like 2ft wide or so absolutely. If the bucket was sloshed to the point it broke cohesion or was spilled to the point it's no longer a perfect 2ft plane, you would be expelled. (I.e. say you're in a circular puddle of blood in an alleyway, the wind blows & the puddle becomes lopsided to the point it's no longer a 2ft circle, or it has "empty" spots on the inside of the circle, etc) as for being contained somehow? You'd have to generate enough force or have some ability to break or circumvent the lid or obstruction, no different than passing through a closed/locked door. You could however rise out of the puddle as much or as little as you'd want, kind of like a crocodile in the water. If you were say, in a large puddle or stream of blood you could also "swim" through it as long as it keeps to the same rules & pop up in another connected location. A clever user might run a puddle of blood under a doorway or wall to appear on the other side

>>96975787
It's not like Masquerade fanboys tend to have a near-tribalistic obsession with defending their sacred cow that makes them hate on Requiem to a truly irrational extent.

>>96975819
I need to get better at telling when I'm getting baited

>>96975752
for me, it's the Country Gangrel
awoo xD

>>96975876
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mbX8Ud-q68

>>96975555
>browser
do people really?

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>>96975752
>How can a pack of shovelheads do that?
Have them indoctrinated by someone on the path of Honorable Accord. Maybe a Brujah or Ventrue.

>How is it the sabbat goes about doing their holy war, when that are actually doing said holy war.
Youre in the Sabbat so there is going to be a little murderhoboing but dress it up as more ritualistic rather than wanton destruction. Focus on "getting results". If the pack wants to get stronger then have them try and locate vampires of lower generation that would also weaken the camarilla's grasp in their domain. You can also have them uncover antediluvian or infernal influence within the sect and have them fight to root it out.

>>96975894
Good ideas here, fucking with Cammie projects and Cammie diablerie is probably a good way to keep them on tract though the scale of your game might blow out of proportions

>>96975889
interesting. This is how I soundscape backwoods Sabbat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ms7NeWzRK0

>>96975752
>pack catches messenger
>priest thinks code is travelling arrangements for enemy officer
>doesn't tell a bishop so the pack won't have to share
>enemy's older than their profile said or meeting a mentor

Are we now posting Sabbat trash music?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLBRXkXRUE4

>>96975812
oh I wasn't aware this is a caitiff discipline

what's the name and theme of it? how was it developed?

>>96975752
I'd pick one of the npcs in the metaplot or create one yourself, who's goal is to push an antideluvian plot. Borrow or build a cult or organization around them. Let the cult be constantly fucking with the Sabbat. Don't forget to have the occasional game session where they play one of the fucked up Sabbat games.

>>96975956
Name so far is Blood Storage (I'll take suggestions on cooler ones more fitting to other discipline names)
Theme is about abilities dealing with blood as a medium in the notion that you can store objects in the blood. Where do these things actually GO? Who knows, it's a fun mystery, it was developed by a Caitiff who used to bury weapons & other stuff in his undead body as he was Caitiff & always roaming without much of a home or safe place or suitcases. Eventually his desperate need was answered as he stored a murder weapon into his blood. After that he kept experimenting until he did more & more.

>>96975773
thank you for posting it anon, I laughed heartily

>>96976024
Sanguirepo perhaps? Logic was Sanguine + latin for storage + repo(repossess). Could always shorten it, just a quick idea

>>96976024
>name
I got two to suggest:. Materiaglobin a bit on the nose but hey it works.
The other is if you wanted to treat it more like a blood magic path and that is: Path of Spaces Between.
A third one that just hit me could be Envein or InVein if you wanna be more literal.

>>96976055
>Envein
heh, nta but that's pretty good

>>96976055
>>96976053
One I was kicking around was Onstal.

>>96976055
Envein sounds really cool and vampirey, it's perfect

>>96976068
How'd you come up with that

>>96975301
>TQ
My last character (hunter) was commonly subject to jokes about him being a Casanova and one of the other PCs basically threw his sister at him, but honestly, I think it's a little overstated. He was just good at talking and had a flare for the romantic, which made up for the fact he was broke as hell.

Before that, I played a vampire, Ventrue to be specific, who was objectively very good at seduction, but pretty much never engaged in it. She thought seduction was beneath her and would only put the moves on someone if she was actually into him that way. She wouldn't play her looks down and was happy to benefit from them passively, but found the idea of faking interest in someone, or actively using her sex appeal to get her way to be exceedingly undignified and this was a belief she held even before her embrace. So even though she was a social predator, and by virtue of her clan curse could only drink strong, masculine men, she would always keep the pretense chaste.

I'm going out my way to make my upcoming CtL character as unfuckable as possible.

>>96976074
Your changelings will be the most fuckable yet through a twist of fate

>>96976074
Any situations where that came in useful or backfired? Sounds interesting. Anyway an interesting strategy is to make a character so fuckable that it becomes distasteful to fuck them
>>96976086
would be ironic

>>96975854
You know who you are.

>>96975752
Gonna second and expand on what >>96975979, have them fight actual servants of the Antediluvians instead of using that as casus belli to take over a city. Doesn't mean they have to be friendly with the Camarilla, but a game where the Sabbat is doing more than seething about the Cam would be fun.

Maybe make the Setites the primary antagonists, or ooh, better idea. What about the Assamites? Actually tackle what a fifth column the Black Hand is, play with the notion that there are Antediluvian worshippers not only in the Sabbat, but heavily entrenched within it.

>>96976167
Planning on making it more of globe trotting adventure?

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>>96976072
It popped up on Google when I was searching synonyms & alternate language bases. I do really like Envein though.

Do do-do do do! Inspector Caitiff!

>>96976086
Well you tell me, because I'm really trying here. He's an Ogre, Farwalker, so his mien looks like the damn missing link. He's very strong, but he doesn't have a muscular adonis thing going on or even a roidbeast, his muscles are all wiry as hell. He has a messy, unkempt beard, sunken-in beady eyes and fat, mishappen lips. The game is set in Victorian London, so he teeth are crooked and yellow from smoking and excessive tea consumption. He's very rude and wipes his ass with proper highfalutin Victorian social mores, his language is laden with slang and curses in the thickest east ender accent you've ever heard. If that is still somehow fuckable I don't know what to do next.

>>96976126
>useful
I'd say it was actually generally useful because she still got to benefit from good looks and all the inherent social benefits that come with it, without getting into any messy emotional entanglements or taking any serious blows to her reputation. Sure, there were always going to be mean girls accusations going on in Elysium but when you genuinely give them no supporting evidence they tend not to stick.

>backfired
Well one Toreador with decent influence got this idea into her head that my Ventrue was such a giga-prude that she would actively put her (the Toreador) out of business (she ran a fancy nightclub with a hidden BDSM club in the basement for those in the know). So keeping a reasonable degree of modesty actually created at least one political enemy for her. That game was also good about acknowledging the downsides of being good looking, even if you play it down, because there was a Toreador Elder who was on-again off-again creeping on her.

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>>96971864
>>96972044

>>96976230
Alright you got me that is a rather distinctive image you built. I suppose ogres would be the one seeming that hammer it home

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>>96976230
So this guy but gutter british? Some strumpet will still take a run up you

>>96976227
That would be kino on a Malkavian too
>>96976230
>Made an ugly beast-like character
>So ugly he's an ugly-bastard tier orc
>not fuckable
You'd be surprised what gets people off. As for the other characters, that sounds pretty interesting. Very imaginative ways to punish or reward weird seductive characters like that the hidden Toreador bdsm club and Toreador obsessed elder is something i'll be taking for my game thank you anon

>>96976230
You've just reinvented the Welsh.

>>96976305
he made no mention of horse fucking

>>96976326
We can't all be Russian

>>96976305
Welshmen fuck sheep
Scotsmen fuck British women
British men fuck British men

>>96976234
I like incisors and lost boys.

>>96976252
Well that's good, I've been trying to really ram it home that he isn't some monsterfucker's dream. He needs to be fuck-ugly and uncharismatic because he's a grim and brooding vigilante on a one man crusade against the rampant crime in the east end.

>>96976259
Well yeah but I'm not using a cockney slag's standards as my metric for fuckable.

>>96976263
I specifically made him lean and not that tall to avoid him having orc-esque proportions.

and thanks, my group's pretty good at playing with advantages in a way where they sometimes backfire, without it getting so bad that it feels punitive. Most of the time being good looking is a strict social benefit, even to people that aren't attracted to you. But it can also lead to unwanted attention.

Go right ahead, the club was actually pretty neat. It had a very "clean" aesthetic, brighter than average but not harsh lighting, fairly open floor plan, half-second floor with an overlook. Lots of glass. The young and middle aged upper class doing blow in immaculately clean bathrooms. If you knew the password to get into the back rooms in turned into a very lace and silk-y bondage club. Very stylish, but obviously I never spent much time in character there, and basically zero time in the back. Only time she ever went into the back was when we were actively hunting a Baali that was involved with the club's operation.

>>96976305
I'll have you know he's a pureblooded anglo-saxon he is!

>>96976392
>I'll have you know he's a pureblooded anglo-saxon he is!
Bullshit.
I know for a fact he is at least 25% Jute.

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>>96976234
kek

I feel like these look better for the nosferatu-type fangs (non-vtm nosferatu)

>>96976392
>Baali in BDSM club
Kind of kino

>>96976425
I don't think that one can lick it better when they're done

Thinking of getting into VtM with some friends. Only played DnD before but know a little of the lore from Bloodlines back in the day. Where should I start? (I will be DM)

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>>96976492
read the sticky
pick a splat
have at

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I'm on a quest to design unique 10-sided dice
I tire of the standard d10 shape (aka pentagonal trapezohedron) and I've got ideas for a modified d20 (with each 2 triangles joined to create 10 curved "faces") and likewise for a d30 (aka rhombic triacontahedron)
Someone already made this modified d20, I will be making my own with a nicer typeface and maybe a special symbol for the 10 like an ankh or something
will report in a couple of months once I learn how to use 3D modeling tools

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>>96976234
>london

>>96975726
Have a pulse (optional)

>>96975726
Just buy one at the goblin market.

>>96976422
Yeah, everyone tends to forget them when discussing the ethnogenesis of the English.

>>96976440
Yeah, she was fun.

For some reason, most of the oWoD designated "super bad guys" are into kinky shit, often bondage. Just off the top of my head you have
>Zhyzak or however the fuck you spell her name (BSD signature character) wearing bondage gear as her only clothing.
>The entire opening to the VTDA Baali book.
>Tzimisce volunteering to be subs in the torture dungeons of the Nephandi Evil Wizard Spaceship.
>Huitzilopochtli (Baali Methuselah) having the tentacle rape chamber that makes you evil in his old Haven. (Thanks, The Chaos Factor.)
>I swear I once saw stats for a Nephandi item that's a whip that forces you to roll to resist liking it when it hits you.

>>96976564
Most oWoD protagonists started with vampire bites that make you cum and at least 10% kill you. They're flexing on you.