Previous: >>96983377>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.com/https://www.pdhrec.com/>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>TQHow do you manage tokens for your decks?
> tiny brain"Whenever you tap a creature for mana"> Bigger brain"Whenever you activate a mana ability of a creature"> Galaxy brain"Whenever a summon spell which has become a permanent is turned sideways at mana source speed, while under your control"
what kind of deck would possibly need all this space for this much shit?this is overdesign incarnate
>creature type: >badger molewhy not simply beast? wtf is up with all these shitty types?we had "wizards", now we got "sorcerers"fuck this gay world
>>96991303>made by a redditor no less!how are you surprised?
>>96991303standard shit, sideboards and tokens.
>>96991287>How do you manage tokens for your decks?For decks that incidentally have tokens, just some extra spindowns.For decks that use large numbers of the same kind of token, three token cards for that type - one for tapped, one for untapped, and one for untapped (summoning sick).For decks that use a variety of tokens frequently, one copy of token card each per type, with different color dice on each card for quantities in different states.For Orvar, a stack of post it notes and a pen.
>>96991299It's worded like that because of how it would interact with mana filtering abilities.
>>96991287>falvour textThat's not true
>>96991360wasnt this designed by the prof, the guy who reviewed tcg accesories for years?
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>96991450What if 25 tho
>>96991303It's a good deck box
>>96991303This is all I'll ever need.
>>96991105Yes, Wizard straight up says sohttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/avatar-the-last-airbender-mechanics
>>96991299I dont get this zoomer meme.
>>96991303>deck>tokens >dice>extra shelf level but it needs to match the height of the deck box so YoloI think you might be retarded if this is how you spend your Saturday mornings anon.
>>96991410yes, a redditor tier retard. your point?
>>96991408>t. Mount Kilimanjaro
So how are we planning to deal with this guy bros?
Got prerelease in a few hours, which kit should I pick if I've got the option? I'm just hoping to get some of the cool flip sagas for my Garnet deck
>>96991842>turns you into a frog
>>96991842Aggravated Assault.dec*yawn* Next.
Fellow commanders, I want to make a deck based on martial arts, from the avatar set. I didnt really follow avatar, but from what I can tell element bending is just a martial art + an element. Any suggestions on direction? I was leaning towards the 4 color aang and cramming in bending cards/creatures like crazy.
>>96991994https://tagger.scryfall.com/tags/artwork/martial-arts
>>96991842Not dealing, he is going to join the Yurlok team.
>hes going to add avatar cards to his in-universe decks
>>96991842KOS,or some say Kosm
>>96991853Blue is definitely the strongest color. Azula and Toph are probably the best 2 guaranteed uncommons.The strongest single combination is probably blue black clues.Like most sealed formats, I think green has the strongest baseline even if you get unlucky.
>>96991842Cast Swords to Plowshares on him twice so he's uncastable
>>96992061>years without living weapons support>two sets with living weapons come out>both UBI gotta do what I gotta do...
>>96991994Yea, waterbending was tai chi, earthbending was hung gar, airbending was bagua, fire was northern shaolin. You could pick a style (shaolin best style fight me) that you like, or like you said, just make a bending.dek to celebrate martial arts generally.From cards alone, the airbenders (yangchen, gyatso, etc.), look more martial artsy to me. Maybe cuz theyre all bald. Could make a neat blink deck.
>>96992061I'm going to waste money on lotus tile slop
>>96992061Fuck you I need shrines
>>96991287>How do you manage tokens for your decks?I have a giant heap of cards from other games (Harry Potter, Force of Will, Pokemon, Yugioh, World of Warcraft, Dungeon Dice Monsters) and I just slap them on the table to represent different things.Also unsleeved og Mana Crypt as a treasure token for ragebaiting.
>>96992213you need some love us what you need
>>96991530fucking basedmy moms must have one somewhere lying around>pulling that crank to play some music when you are about to win
>>96991303For me, it's a Coldsnap fat pack
>>96992231;_;
What deck should I build to express myself in "hello, I am degenerated pervet, nice to meet you"? I was thinking about spiders with Thantis, the WarweaverSultai mutate (with Otrimi) or Simic mutate (Ivy) deck, for the slime and tentaclesRakdos Blim donate, because the pain shared with friends feels the bestTovolar werewolves, for the furry vibeIzzet giants, to stomp on the tiniesJund with Xira, to pump everybody with insect eggs and have them enjoy ovipositionNicol Bolas grixis planeswalkers deck, with big bad dragon owning all the hotties like Liliana, Chandra, Narset, Tasha, Geyadrone... Which deck would make you cringe if somebody brought to play, and would make you question whether they are touching themselves under the table?
>>96992429Ivy all dayher design is just retarded. she is commander on braindead babby mode. a friend build that deck for his GF so she can stand in to play with us if we are just 3. she barely knows how to even play and that deck remains undefeated, she barely has to try. Ivy is just unfair to the core.make sure to bring a stack of post its to keep track of all the copies, having copy token isnt sufficient
>>96992429humans
>>96992429None. You'd need shitty AI art proxies
>>96992480Trynn and Silvar humans? Vore sac deck?
>>96992475I like the idea of having a mutant faerie with tentacles, horns and expanding +1/+1 boobs flying around, dripping with slime and noming on people with her sharp sharkteeth.
None of the ally commanders seems very goodAlso, Katara seems solid enough for CEDH.I'm just not totally sure about the wincons. Thassa/Laboratory Maniac/Jace again?
>>96992534>Thassa/Laboratory Maniac/Jace again?Yes, that's what happens when you optimize the fun out of the format: you get the same boring wincons for every. single. deck.
It feels like the majority of randoms I run into on spelltable or at the store now are running primarily UB decks.
>>96991299Is this the new long house
>>96992695because the majority of recent (and upcoming) releases have been UB
The Insano VirusN/AMutate -> UBRGLegendary Creature - Mutant Eye8/8Creature spells you cast that don't have mutate, have mutate which is 1+ their mana cost, and can target humans. mutated creatures you control are mutants in addition to their other types.Whenever a mutant you control deals damage to a creature an opponent controls, you may cast a creature from your hand by paying it's mutate cost targeting that creature. You gain control of it. Mutated Emminence: You may cast creature spells from your command zone for their mutate costs.
>>96992803I am in desperate need of a mutate commander so I'd buy it on the spot
>>96992803>Mutated Emminence: You may cast creature spells from your command zone for their mutate costs.You could already do this, unless you fucked up and meant graveyard or some shit
>>96992803I remember seeing this as part of a nightmare cosplay way back on flickr
>>96992534cEDH is a joke jfc
>>96992555this, but its combat for each and every of my EDH decks
How cheap could a decently powerful bracket 2-3 Sauron deck be?Asking for my gf who finally wants to get into the game and thought he seems cool.
If you hate politics so much just play commander as a two player format.
>>96992695The memes have become real. More and more often I sit down at a table and I am the only one running a magic character ad my general.
>>96992910if you want it LOTR ring themed, it will be expensive because of stuff like the ring wraiths, witch king, orcish bowmasters and the one ring. if you want it in bracket 3, it will be relatively expensive anyways because you want to run some high quality board wipes with him.cheapest way to build him would probably be something something aristocrats/goblin+orcs/tokens, but for those playstyles he would be nothing more than a late game token supplier.
>>96992833The difference, is that when a mutated commander is sent to the command zone, all cards with it are as well iirc
>>96991303For me, it's this.>snugly fits 100 cards, dual sleeved>tokens can be slpped into the side of the deck>bottom can hold a bunch of spin down and small dice
>>96993096How about just bracket 2?Is the precon alright if we just replace the shitty commander with the good sauron and add a few small improvements?
>>96992910Honestly, at the prices to run this authentically I would just proxy the deck. No need to give in to the rediculous second hand market.
>>96993107No, they changed that a long while back. Now all non-commander cards just go to the graveyard
>>96991303>>96993121For me, it's these. 6 boxes + 100 sleeves each for less than 5bux each
>>96991303I keep it simple, and a second one to carry tokens and dice
>>96992085Sultai sissies win again? AIIIEEEEE, HELP ME ZURGO
>>96993039Do you have a spot where we can check out everything you have made so far? Im digging it
>>96992228>World of WarcraftI really liked this card game before it became hearthstone
>>96992695Maybe because the majority of recent sets are UB and they are seeded with more legendaries and WUBRG cards than non ub
>>96992429>What deck should I build to express myself in "hello, I am degenerated pervet
>>96993418Love her
>>96992475ivy isn't braindead, keeping track of all her tokens takes too much energy
I actually really liked the dracula cards in crimson vow was it? Thats the only acceptable ub to me
>>96993463
>>96993189>just bracket 2anything goes in bracket 2 according to wotc. >Decks to be unoptimized and straightforward, with some cards chosen to maximize creativity and/or entertainment >Generally, you should expect to be able to play at least eight turns before you win or lose.I'm just saying that it will get expensive if you want it to be LOTR themed because most of the evil LOTR cards are expensive. but you should have no problem with any commander in bracket 2.
>>96993366I used to have a google drive with everything but deleted it after realizing I still need to tinker a lot, don't know when I'll be done nor want to "release" a WIP.I plan on making something again, but I'll make a new account for it to prevent doxxing myself.If anyone here knows a better place for uploading these, I'd like to know.
now this is some BULLSHIT
>>96993480Yeah i mean that was pretty shit but the rest were coolAnd not mechanically unique
>>96993480AHAHAHAHAHAHA
How do I ramp mana in blue aside from High Tide
Do you guys think Wan Shi Tong will go down? He seems like a staple in blue.
>>96991303I agree, but I also use a dice bag because I also play TTRPG. Tokens I keep in a small 60-card deckbox or if it's a rare token type it gets put in behind the commander but in front of the deck in the deckbox as a divider
>>96993640Mana rocks. Wayfarer's Bauble and the like.. 4 other cards that do the same
>>96991299>"Whenever you tap a creature for mana">"Whenever you activate a mana ability of a creature"these aren't the same. unless you really want this to be compatible with vivi
>>96993640People like to shit on it, but Gilded Lotus is a must. It jumps you three turns ahead in mana the next turn, and allows you to have three blue mana for any counterspells until then.
If you're in bracket 4, this belongs in every deck.
>>96993640anon...
>>96993714>nobody in my pod but me plays red nice try greenfag
Yshtola and that dumbass jund spaceship are some of the faggiest deck types. Yshtola>im going to be an annoying nigger and cast every type of rewind and free counter spells and board wipes and removal so I can eventually win with retards pinger by turning counters into cantrips>jundtard>im going to just run mass destruction and hyper ramp>teehee, did I loop fetches and myriad also ping you all to death??I don’t understand the reasoning behind looping/repatable ramp/control trigger, draw card, do damage on 3 color commander bodies. If I run that much removal, I dont have the ability to win on my own. But these pos commanders have their main strategy and ramping be a part of their win condition
>>96993534Vrenn bros..
>>96993744You're a fag for complaining about the strategies themselves. Neither of those game plans are the issue. The commanders themselves are just pushed slop that give too much card advantage while also having a built-in wincon.
>>96993640Wayfarer's Bauble, Burnished Hart, Solemn Simulacrum
>>96993742Not a greenfag, but I do have a special card for you, bucko. Better buckle up, because it's going to be a bumpy ride. Talk shit some more, and I might just Armageddon your ass.
What should I cut for Cycle of Renewal?https://moxfield.com/decks/DAhte3U86EabbqFWkCMDmg
>>96993527Have you shared those before? Because I'm pretty sure I've seen some of them irl.
could this deck be good?https://moxfield.com/decks/BzGeQh9x20GDEIsuU5d3ZQ
>>96993702Dies to disenchant. Now you wasted a turn and 5 mana
>>96992429https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&page=3&q=art%3Aabsolute-territory&unique=artNot a degenerate maybe, but a patrician of perverts for sure.
>>96993480Why do they never race bend black characters as white or Asian?
>>96993776do what you must, I have already won
>>96993786I'd replace Gaea's Gift as it's a touch overcosted and you have plenty of protection in your deck already.Also replace Ranger's Guile with Royal Treatment. Almost universal upgrade.
>>96993803This once again confirms that Lili is the best girl and did nothing wrong. Wizards, we better get more of Lili both in Lorwyn and in Strixhaven
>>96993776I'm sad that these cards aren't as good because everyone plays 3+ colors and tons of nonbasics.
>>96993790I haven't. The one I posted above was definetely never posted, as I just got done creating it. Which one did you see?Perhaps you saw the original proxy deck released two years ago on Reddit. Or some other proxy project that used the same art. If they are from the "OED" Set / have the Oedon rune set symbol, they are made by me.
>>96992429Any simic X spells deck will scream>im a fat man-voice troon
>>96993818You know why.
>>96993640Retraced image, mitotic manipulation or whatever its called, replication technique and dreamscape artist if youre really needing actual land ramp.
>>96993640Twincast that mfs Cultivate
>>96993753No, the strategies are fine, the cards themselves are like you said - stapled together value. I can't deal with their triggers being a value engine and win condition. What the fuck am I supposed to do when this retard bitch force of wills my removal, pings me, draws into more removal/free spells and my hand is dwindling? it's such a piss off it's unreal.
>>96993640copy your spells (mana rocks)
>>96993640Mono medallions
Why did the one mythic I wanted from this set had to end up being the most expensive card in it? Why does that fuckass owl have to cost so much? It's not fair.
the anon who pointed out that rocks are dead draws late game has broken my fucking brain i hate rocks so much now i notice it all too often
>mtg demons are cool>half of them are designed in a way that makes them hated by all opponents so they never survive a turn if someone has itcan christfags give a me a break jesus christ
>>96994111whenever I play a rock nowadays, my brain races to all the better 2 drops I could have played instead of that shit
>>96994111Play better rocks.
>>96994111How's that different than lands being dead drops late game?
>>96994156mdfc
guys, I only won 2/3 games tonight because they had it and I didn't.. my win ratio doesn't feel so good
>>96994111this is why you play mindstone>>96994156that's why you play cycling lands and mdfcs like the other anon said
For me, it's the Toyger deckslimmer. Fits dice and coins in the side pockets, fits an overkill amount of cards, even doublesleeved so I can slot the tokens in with the deck instead of having a separate token box. It's a useful form-factor for my backpack and is generally very stylish. Good build quality, too. Its only downside is the expense, they're like double the price of a regular deckbox.
>>96994111I remember someone saying "if you you played a rock turn 2 but didn't have a land drop and a 4 drop turn 3 then that mana rock might as well have just been a land" and it's so obviously true that it made me mad that I hadn't really thought about it and now I can't help but notice it.
Jist wob wifh forcrd fruritiob and Scrawjling craelr. Shit had beser veeb mor e cashy
>>96991303Are these at least well made? Like do they scuff or tear or stain after some abuse?I kinda hate this stuff since it usually only looks good when just bought but becomes an open book on how degenerate pig the owner is after like half a month.And then they go out and buy another one.
>>96994260So play more 4 drops.
>>96991842It's kind of weird that his base art is dwarfed by both of his variants. Usually a variant would be ass.
>>96994274You don't play more 4 drops if your deck has more ramp, your play more ramp if your deck has more 4 drops.
>>96994274Only works if your commander isn't a 4-drop otherwise the 4-drop becomes a bricked card cuz you're not casting it on curve at all. Tempo loss.
>>96994306Things commander players shouldn't even be registering.
>>96994248>>96993290>>96993121>>96991303Why do they always have to have the branding on it? Can't it just be a means to transport your cards? Why does it always have to be the ULTRA PRO MASTER BOX or some shit.Why does it even have to be specifically just for holding cards? Can't it be literally any box with the right dimensions?
>>96992534>hmmm this commander seems to he cedh viable if I rely on the most generic and overused cedh wincon
>>96994318>Why does a company put its branding on its product?One of those imponderables, I'm afraid
>>96994317Do commander players really crowd their commander's mana value when building their deck? That seems really dumb and a guarantee to not cast those cards frequently every game.
>>96994248I will destroy so many cards using this
>>96994248that looks like hell on the edges of the cards
>>96993853Oh yeah, that was probably it. I didn't know it was an older proxy set you just made additions to.
>>96994352Anon. It's a four player format. Your "tempo" is a smoke signal for the other players to set you back before you get ahead.
>>96993640Make 10 Sol Rings with all of Blue's artifact copy shit.
>want to build a deck>keep getting nothing but 3 drops>throw it away in disgust
>>96991303pic related>barely holds 100 cards, can't use double sleeves>bunch of dice thrown next to cards because there's some space to the side, creating loud rattling noises while moving>>96991530brother
>>96994372Their blowing a spell to halt my tempo is a smoke signal for other players to start establishing a board state.
>>96994318>why do companies brand their oroducshere you go, you room-temperature IQ apemy brother has been using the same box for years and it is just fine
>>96994360>>96994358the cards aren't bent or bending or under any tension at all, they're just diagonal in a pile instead of straight in a pile. It's like if the deck is fanned out a bit but held in place.
>>96994248>they're like double the price of a regular deckbox.That is a bit of a deal breaker. Though it is interesting seeing more options are around than I thought. I usually just stick to these things that Amazon sells. They're usually pretty cheap and I like the little window thing for display.
Does the bracket system really works?
>>96994306>he plays his 4 drop commander on curvepeople don't play removal at your table?
>>96994392Which means you are the one set back and everyone else gets ahead, yes. Don't concern yourself overmuch with tempo. If you have to take turn 3 off and just draw a card play a land? That's how commander is supposed to be.
>>96994407the cards are still scraping along the bottom every time you fold it
>>96994407moving from straight to diagonal composition is going to scrape the edges of the cards no matter what
>>96994424>>96994430I've used these boxes for years and nothing like what you describe has ever damaged the cards, or even the sleeves
>>96994111Now replace rocks with lands
what if I ramp into more ramp into even more ramp and draw huh
>>96994418No, the person who cast the removal spell is also behind.
>>96994272Anon are you okay
I don't get the last part. What does it mean kill it in response? I thought the whole earthbending effect it's all in 1. How tf do you kill it in response and lose it if it's already earthbended before? It isn't like a continues effect?
New coomette just arrived
>>96994623in response to the earthbend on the stack, before it resolves
>>96994636But if i earthbend the land AGAIN it shouldn't still have the old earthbend stuff from before and just come back tapped?
>>96994648yes
>>96994623He's referring to stacking up on the same land. Specifically in something like if you already have a land earth bended into a creature and then tried casting this to pump it up more and then have another creature fight with this spell, you wouldn't be able to if your opponent removed the land you targeted since the spell wouldn't be able to resolve all of it's effects.
>>96994698oh.... i get it but it was pretty dumb to put it that way. Thanks anyway, anon.
>>96994111Its nice to know that after many arguments I have gotten through to a few anons
So what decks is everyone building from avatar?
>>96994713>it was pretty dumb to put it that way.Yeah I have no idea why he chose to say it that way considering this is already a thing with cards so it's not special that it happens with these earth bended lands too. Guess it's a cover all your bases thing in case some newer players are joining and may be dealing with these interactions for the first time?
>price is finally loweringAre you gonna build him?
Any Toph naya deck already made? I want to make it for my casual group.
>>96994806>I want to make itNo you want to copy someone else's deck you fucking mentally devoid UBslopper lmao.
>>96994735None
>>96992910Nice art of a flushing toilet
>>96994822Yeah bad use of words. I don't care about netdeck tbqh.
toph the first metalbender broswe can protect artifacts from exile and sacrifice consequences when activating their abilities?what are our best ways to get consistent earthbending to keep the spice flowing?
>>96993121I still swear by these things.>built like an immortal brick, survived a fall down concrete stairs with nothing but a bit of a scratch>cheap as all fuck>holds 100 cards double sleeved (lots of foils) AND all my tokens (unsleeved)>holds all my diceI fucking dare you people to name a better box.
>>96994857These don't hold double.sleeved cards and they suck
>>96994793>>price is finally loweringYa he was b& in st&ard
>>96994842I'm starting to doubt Toph is any good despite me loving her so much.All other commanders seem more powerful in comparisson.
>>96994912Depends which TophOne of them is really good and it's not the tri color one
>>96994896I use the Ultra Pro tower for my decks just fine, and they're all double sleeved with dragon field mattes and inners.
>>96994912>doubt Toph is any goodAzula chads eating well
Haven't played since WAR, how bad is the UBslop when it comes to commander? Like if I walk into my last remaining LGS and sit down for a game will it just me playing against UBshit for the entire night?
>96994927Who cares / go find out for yourself, we dont know what your lgs is like
>>96994921You mean the experience counter one mono green? Because that's literally the only one that works well by itself. Any other depends on other cards.
>>96994273I've had mine a year and never had issues. Gamegenics are very well made and easily the best boxes out there. Retards acting like they are bad because they did a collab with a youtuber are retards. There are no better boxes.>MUH BOULDERSEnjoy your creased cards
>>96993480Did you cry about Blacula as well?Dracula doesn't need to adhere to some shit like LOTR. It is public domain and everyone and their mother has done their own version.Dracula also isn't a Mexican but he was in the Spanish 31 version. He also was never Turkish...aside from the Turkish version.It's a fucking public domain novel. You can turn the characters into aliens if you want.
I don't think any commander in the set looks very fun desu. I found more fun legendaries in Spider-Man
>>96994857My man.>>96994896They do like >>96994925 says, but it's tight! After the air and foils compress a bit it's fine.
>>96994735None. Only card I’m semi-interested in is Badgermole Cub.>>96994793Pulled my copy at the pre-release so already have a deck for him. It’s alright but I just like it for salt-farming a few of my friends.>Friends wanted me to build an Izzet deck for the longest time>Pull and build Vivi>”We meant a real Izzet deck anon, not one from a niche UB franchise”>Friend who said that has three Izzet decks in River Song (Doctor Who), Spider-Man 2099, Breya (which he calls Izzet because “it doesn’t use white or black cards), and a proxy deck of boomerang boy from LA>Vivi also pisses of another friend a lot because their main format is Standard
>>96994912She seemed strong at the start when we only knew of a handful of cards but we've seen so many more now that she feels weak in comparison. Especially the Naya one. Toph, Earthbending Master and Toph, Hardheaded Teacher seem like they could do well but I'm not sure about the rest. I'm sure Naya Toph can do some ridiculous combo, but it feels like it would take too much time and be too fragile.
>>96995000Naya Toph is easily the weakest despite being the most hyped. Mono green Toph is best but Hardheaded Teacher also has more potential than Naya toph
>>96994927Go play something else.
>>96995031Yeah that's what I mean. She initially caused a lot of talk with her potential interaction with Ugin's Nexus, but then nothing. Shame too since she is supposed to be final end of show Toph. The end of turn choice I think really hurts her. Disappointing that Earthbending Master is the only mono green experience card so far or else she could have had some other interactions. And Hardheaded Teacher gives you access to Bumi and an endless army of land creatures which sounds good so really either would be better.
Where did this card come from? It's not in the commander set despite the symbol
>>96995000>>96995031Giving up on colors like red and white is it that good? I mean if you go mono green then you're kinda fucked since you have almost no removal or board wipe.... mono green toph it's more powerful but a mono green deck can really worjk?
>>96995056Upcoming "scene" pack thing. Like that Spider-Man one or the LOTR ones.
>>96995055Just build one of the other two instead Look at it this way; at least now with them printing multiple versions of everyone, they have a chance to shine through multiple cards and you can still build the blind waifu
>>96995059Did you ask if mono green can work as a deck in commander? Or just specifically her?Because one of these questions is retarded
>>96995064Upcoming? So it has yet to be released?
>>96994927>Like if I walk into my last remaining LGS and sit down for a game will it just me playing against UBshit for the entire night?you will be, this isn't hyperbole. half of every pod is just some ub commander or released in the last year
>>96995076Yeah, part of the FF holiday release.
>>96995076Yes. I assume they'll release it next month for the holiday season. That's how LOTR went.
>>96995076It's apparently set to come out in December.
>>96995084good luck getting any of this shit for under 200 dollars.
>>96995076comes out in early december together with the chocobo bundle. card can only be found in either the scene bundle or chocobo bundle.
I think I found the perfect card for my BG reanimator deck. Art is cool as fuck, and it's cheap. Don't copy my super secret tech.
>>96995077>you will be, this isn't hyperbole. half of every pod is just some ub commander or released in the last yeargrim, I was in the mood to play some commander but the dissonance of sitting down and playing against spiderman, aang the avatar, and spongebob squarepants kinda ruins the experience for me.
>>96995059Mono green can still be great. Yes you lose a lot of the removal options white has and the haste stuff red can do but it can still be a massive threat.
>>96994735I'm notLotus tiles for my tribalsWall of Ba Sing Se for the memesMaybe the feet studentI love the show but I don't care about it enough to get anything else; maybe Piandao and only because I like him as a character
>>96995059Embrace mono color, reject tri color
>>96995088???
>>96995115what does request notification mean?
>>96995084>>96995078Has the ff9 one been revealed yet?Also what's the chocobo bundle?
>>96995118Yeah they've all been revealed ages ago.Also what's the chocobo bundle?A bundle that includes some new artwork reprints in the boosters.
>>96995115Sorry. Not 200. Only like 110 each! A steal!Somehow I doubt that is the MSRP.
>>96995117they don't take any more pre-orders. you could order the bundle like a month ago. this was the average price in europe for this product.
>>96995071I mean mono green by itself.>>96995107It just comes to my mind all those times where i'm fucked and have to wipe the board to regain any advantage i can have and as green i would need to be ahead or in the middle and would have no access to that as mono green....
>>96995088They're like 40 bucks a piece anon.
>want more Slivers and Eldrazi>literally nothing in EoE>seemingly nothing in Lorwyn tooWhat's it gonna take to get a full new set of my favorite assholes?
>>96995123No shit anon. That's the MSRP. You aren't finding it for MSRP because scalpers bought that shit out in minutes. Now if you want them you can look at this shit >>96995122
>>96995056R = U confirmed?
>>96995122Anon the post you're replying to shows them at 135 for all four.
>>96995132Anon those are sold out which is why they say that. You cannot buy them. That is the MSRP and they are sold out.This is what they cost right now. Keep arguing if you want but unless you can link one I can preorder right now for 40, you can kill yourself.
>>96995128I think you are fomoing hard. retail stores were flooded with lotr scene boxes. FF wont be any different.
>>96995138Whatever you say. You literally cannot prove anything and I have proved my point so we are done here. Take that L, bitch boy.
>they pay scalpers for cards (WOTC is a scalper too)>they don't just buy entire sets for pennies on the dollar
>>96995124You are retarded if you think mono green doesn't work
>>96995105i feel the same way. it's just so disheartening to realize people you share a game with have such totally vapid taste.
>>96995124Mono green is the best mono color to make work
>>96995138Flooding out with the LOTR scene boxes might have lead them to underestimate demand for these boxes actually. That being said by January every LGS will have a big pile of FF scene boxes for sale, just like always.
>>96995148are they with us in the room right now?
>>96995124Depends entirely on what kind of board wipes you need. Artifact and enchantment answers green has some options there. Creature board wipes are a little trickier. Usually in mono green you become the big creature threat that the rest of the table needs to board wipe and in that case you'll rebuild faster often because of your land advantage. You don't really need the board wipes. Just do green things and you'll be fine.
>>96995031Naya Toph has some cool interactions but natural synergies for the strategy she's trying to do are all in Jund or Grixis colors which leaves the deck completely dependent on her and something like a zuran orb on the field in order to do anything.
>>96995148china man delayed my shipment because of heavy rain.
>Got all the Tophs on the pre release except the mono green one (the most expensive).>it's the best oneI wanna die.
>>96995192I wish to protec..
>>96995097Sorry anon, but anyone who has played with or against Prossh has seen this card at least a dozen times. Then again the last time I saw a Prossh deck was just after Eldraine 2019 so maybe Fecund has gone back into obscurity.
>>96995148>paying real money for fake cards
>>96995156Lucky. Here in Aussieland the LotR ones are still mostly going for a premium except for the Gandalf one.
>>96995192Where do the eternal cards even come from?
>>96995209Yes, anon. Paper has a cost to it. It isn't free. I can't go to the best buy and get a stack of paper for free. They'd want money. As such, the cardboard the proxy is printed on still cost something because paper and ink are not free.
>>96995224jumpstart and collector boosters unless promos
>>96995154mono red is better
>>96995212Oh they're all sold out mostly everywhere at this point, but back then several LGS owners were desperately trying to sell them off to people. I chatted with an owner I know about and he said that it's not like they flopped or anything, it's just that he and a bunch of other stores got caught up in the hype and ordered way too many, suppliers even had to ration out their order, he told me his initial order only got fulfilled by about half. He also said that store owners foolishly failed to account for how much storage space those boxes took up while waiting to be sold, hence why so many stores were trying to get rid of them quick.
This has a ton of potential and nobody is talking about it
>>96995253I saw plenty of influencer fags on social media discussing it.And some angry because AI art
>>96995253I dont see the potential. how do you intend to abuse this in a color pair which doesnt flicker?
>>96995258Ai art huh?
>>96995277The artist does AI and claims to be the first person to make a fully AI game or some shit. You can google her.The art looks suspiciously like AI and the artist is confirmed to work in AI.
>hurr durr my rakdos deck doesn't have good 1drops>completely forgot about these two bad boyswe are so back bros
>>96995272I ramp and cast spells
I just hope someone finds a way to play metal bender Toph. I just want to use all the tophs in one deck....
>>96995279Unfathomably basedI have to build it now
>>96995292Imagine having sex with her for the first time and because she's blind she has heightened sensitivity everywhere you touch
>>96995299
>>96995292There's plenty of obvious routes like:>turning artifacts into lands and sacrificing them, basically draw 3 with ichor wellspring, for example>buffing utility artifact creatures that scale with their power like esper sentinel and huh esper sentinel I guess>turn all your artifacts into forests with ashaya/yavimaya>generic landfall payoffs to abuse earthbendThat's about it I guess.
>>96995299I haven't watched the show but I've been told she's canonically a huge slut after the original series timeline.
>>96995326based
>>96995200the fact i got the prossh precon from one of those "mystery" commander cubes at walmart has me always checking the card section now hoping to see those cubes again.
>>96995326Yup, korra's writing does a lot of character assassination and turns Toph into this misanthropic old lady who got knocked up by multiple different guys.
>>96995392I pulled this card from a pack when I was like 13 and I had no idea what it did. what the fuck is a mana pool?
>>96995392No idea what a mystery commander cube is (maybe Aussieland doesn’t have them), but I know the feeling when you find a precon that just clicks with you. Even better if said precon is an older one and can still keep up with modern ones>Tfw site won’t let me upload a pic of Freyalise
>>96995477>No idea what a mystery commander cubeits a repacked deck/cards from a liquidation company, usually from a lost/broken pallet of product they sell in big box stores like wal-mart.
>>96995409Being a kid in the early 2000s trying out all the different TCGs was really wild. It was how I got my Weatherlight copy of Captain Sisay before deciding MtG at that point sucked and stuck with YuGiOh for the better part of 15 years.
>>96991855>turns you into a frogozai says NO
>>96995232There are definitely ways to get paper for free, but instead you paid for it, and you actually paid more for premium fake cards
>>96995487In that case I definitely know what those are because there were a shitload of them I saw as a kid for YuGiOh, Pokemon, Duel Masters and Neopets. Never saw any for MtG but I imagine there must have been some for it here in the 2000s too.
I'm confused about the avatar set. This card has a different set symbol, is it not in the main packs?
>>96994956>muh public domain
>>96995519they are usually sold in these acrylic boxes if that helps>>96995522thats the jumpstart symbol.
>>96995522You get those from the hard to find packs. They will all cost a lot because jumpstart always does. Because no one opens it
>>96995492you're still playing yugioh in 2025?what brings you here in /edhg/
Which version of Beckett Brass should be used for Pirate tribal?
>>96995148that's because we're not poorfags and more importantly we spend within our means and don't pretend we're in a different income bracket
>>96995554Nope, played from 2002 until 2017 when Konami brought in Link monsters along with the bullshit rule changes that happened. Will occasionally play Master Duel around the anniversary events but aside from that and collecting new Crystal Beast cards I don’t touch the game anymore. Been playing Commander since I finished highschool in 2014. Told friends at the time it was the last chance I was giving MtG to impress me and it worked. That being said, I’m sad with how high the powercreep has become the past few years because it’s almost impossible to play pic now.
>>96995608>That being said, I’m sad with how high the powercreep has become the past few years because it’s almost impossible to play pic now.that's what brackets (which are formats in practice) are foryou can always play noyan dar in b1 & b2
Very annoyed right now. My friend and I have been trying to get our other friends into MTG, and friend #1 keeps on pushing these guys who barely even understand their Tarkir precons to build decks with shitty commanders. He got one of them to build a questing beast deck (but insisted that infect was cheap and shouldn’t be used), and the fucking deck just doesn’t do anything. Now my other friend wants to build this random card that’s been powercrept out of existence by the Worldshaper precon commanders, and I’m trying to show him alternatives but friend #1 is declaring some bullshti about how if new friend doesn’t build that awesome card, he’ll be forced to do it himself.Meanwhile this fucker is playing Sauron, Witch King, Teval, and Atla Palani. His decks cost hundreds and my friends don’t want to spend more than 80 on theirs, and he’s throwing them under the bus by pushing these dogshit commanders on them while also bitching at them for playing any way he doesn’t like (infect, simic, azorius, stax, mill, lifedrain, “playing cards for free”, etc)
>>96995732Always stick to precpns with a few upgrades, OR a proven deck/commander (e.g. my man Krenko). Building from scratch when you're new is nearly impossible.
Sorry, I'm not bringing good commanders to the table.Only jank.
>>96995732it genuinely sounds like the friend1 wants a very specific game to play out.probably a run back on pod that stomped him out before.
>>96995789Oh, I gave one of them a Krenko I made. The guy won with it once and then Friend #1 never stopped bitching about him playing a top five EDHREC commander, so now he doesn’t play it anymore>>96995800Actually that sort of checks out. We went to Japan together, all of us had brought a Tarkir precon to use. The entire time we were there, friend #1 didn’t use his Tarkir deck once (Teval), despite being the first to pick their deck. He instead opted to use his tier three Witch King deck for every single game. I was last to choose, and ended up getting Ureni. The entire two weeks we were there, friend #1 kept on insisting I was the threat so I always swung out on his Witch King deck, which was rocking three game changers. Fuck you man, I’m not letting you win with Rhystic Study and Cyclonic Rift against newbs who forget their own Mardu Surge triggers. Anyways the last day, he crashed out on me because he hadn’t won a single game the entire trip, as he and I were always targeting each other and one of the new players would usually win after we took each other out. He definitely was super salty about that how that trip played out.Even now I'm helping one of the noob friends build his first non precon (Norman Osborn/Green Goblin), and even though the dude is only planning on spending $60 on it, friend #1 with his $300 decks is already whining about how busted it’ll be. It’s just bothersome
>>96995647Too bad they do not work in practice
>>96995886>Too bad they do not work in practiceau contraire but they do, just like how formats work right nowpushbacks are usually:>i can't accept that people can and will optimize a casual game and i refuse to believe that i actually have an against the odds b1 deck>people will just cheat and add 10 GCs to a bracket 3 deck, as if cheating never happens to 60 cards>complete randos must read my mind and play according to what i want, because the world revolves around me duh
Have yall ever spotted cheating in a game of commander before? What did you do about it?I only seen it once when a cedh dropout snuck multiple lands onto the battlefield after getting fucked by a vandalblast knocking out his mostly mana rock heavy field. I decided not to say anything and just moved to a different pod as soon as the game ended since the other two players were his friends and acted near exactly the same as the cheater did.
>>96995253>>96995272Self sustaining landfall because she's the only one that can earthbend more than once per turn, which is HUGE
>>96995912>picIs that the retard that said he hates UB cards that are just actual food but he's still going to build a deck of it to "embrace the cringe"?
>>96995944me every time i accidentally grab two cards when drawing for turn and have to put one back (i still know what it is)
>>96995944I'm longtime friends in my pod and we encourage one act of cheating per game to catch each other>>96995966Literally me
>>96995870>crying about krenkoWhat a fucking baby.
>>96995959hello UBschizo
>>96995235Mono red is the most fun but green is the best
>>96995959I got married to a funkopop
>play bracket 3+>have to run the most efficient removal options like swords if you want to do anything without falling majorly behind because half the decks are just simic+ value piles or golgari+ reanimate piles>bracket 2>inefficient and shitty removal alternatives are still bad because no one besides you at all are running interaction, thinking about interacting, and will call you a sweat for doing anything other than playing show and tell>precons are just running swords and path now anyways
Stupid question, somewhat new to magic, played arena for 2 weeks now got into it and want to try commander at a local small lgs, (literal basement and seems chill) after I buy a precon and sleeve it over there, do I just, go ahead and ask a pod if they have room for a player? Autistic and unused to the environment. Apologies if this is the wrong thread to ask
>>96996026yeah just ask, be forthright that you are new, that you are running a precon. Most commander pods are more than happy to get new blood in, at least in the few game stores I go to.
>>96996026That should be fine. If they ask about brackets or whatever just say it's the unmodified [whatever] precon and that you're new.If something like that doesn't work the store is probably pretty fucked and not worth playing at.
>still no option to play commander online on arenaExplain.
>>969960514 players is too complicated for small indie devs.
>>96996051I could have sworn my friend said something about EDH being seasonally available for arena but I guess he's full of shit
>>96996051a) arena is already maximum rope, commander would be complete shitb) the timer in arena actually makes combo impossible to play so it would be purely timmy decks
>>96996051They have brawlIt's worse
>1: dead >2: guys I'm new >2.5: optimized, usually on a budget>3: optimized but with game changers>4: 3 but with mass land denial>cEDH: deadto summarize, there are 3 brackets that people actually play. precon, optimized and optimized with exclusive cards
>>96996067Correct there need to be more brackets between 2 and 4
>>96995959Other than retarded scalpers I haven't seen anyone buy cards just to put them on a shelf retard to display their OMG BAZGINA I'M A NERD shit with other normies. Pick a better example for your anger of third party licensing because funko ain't it.
>>96991357Fuck you
>>96996068here's how it should work>1: guys I'm new>2: optimized, usually on a budget>3: optimized, but with exclusive cardsmeme decks are outside of the system, cEDH is also outside of the system
>beat a guy with my new morty tribal life loss>pact weapon, be at 0 life, repay in kind after countering everything else I had>game 2>guy plays maxxed out terra because hes salty>volcanic torrent for 3, 3 turns in a row with sorceress schemes>keep wiping his high value weenies like enchantess and rebuilding his board with replenish>super pissy about ‘fair magic’ despite using the enchantment land and replenish>when the other guy has 4 tutors and cyc riftedSome places are beyond cursed
>>96996105you the guy with the almost entirely ub mono black deck you showed off last thread
>>96996070>funkyslop retards defend their idols every fucking time they're mocked
>>96996116that wasn't defending funko.
>>96996070>I haven't seen anyone buy cards just to put them on a shelf retard to display their OMG BAZGINA I'M A NERD shitGo to any MtG investor channel (eg PaymoneyWubby) and see how long it takes you to find them getting a card graded and sealed in a box for all eternity.
>>96996116>the retarded UBschizo uses westoidslop in all his examples>doesn't realize that Asia is the future and that mtg won't be funko, but rather the Good Smile Company
>>96996122>other than retarded scalpers
>>96996135He's not a scalper, you're attempting to no-true-scottsman your way out of thishttps://www.youtube.com/@WubbyMagicMonday/videosIt's good that you revile Magic whales, but being a whale is not the same as being a scalper.
>>96996143does wubby actually play the game in more than passing?
>>96995258>>96995279Source on people complaining?
>>96996161Yes that’s why I linked his fucking channel so you wan watching him playing literally every set that came out in the last year as it came out
>>96996112It has a good chunk of ub, plays fun as hell thohttps://archidekt.com/decks/17411880/dark_bargain
most players these days don't even look through old sets to find nuggets they wanna put in their decks, do they?
>>96996207Too much work when edhrec exists
>>96996199>plays fun as hell tho>Est deck cost: $1622.96it fucking better be
>>96996207Just build an ai rag and eat scryfall and the rules. Tell it what you want to do, and it will find interesting / uncommon card interactions if you feed it edhrec
>>96996196Im sure youll make the no true scotsman fallacy argument again, but you know he does not reflect the vast majority of finance bros.
>>96996212I already owned the lands and most of this from precons and cards over the years. Reanimate is $10, guess its inflation
>>96996207I sometimes do it, that's why I put the urza saga's version of Arc Lightning in my Axonil deck
>>96996186Bluesky. Where a lot of the prominent creators hang out.
>equips quietus spike with wound reflection out
>>96996255Is that..? Could it be..? Yes, I think it is... an unblockable creature in Green??? AIIIIEEEEE save me Garfield!!
>>96995272You can just make copies of her easily.
Dumb noob question: if I do combat damage twice or more in one turn with Lightning, does the double double?
>>96996572yup.
>playing monoblack demons>have dark schemes out, board wipes>end step before my turn>bring back xathrid and apocalypse demon>opponents lose 30 life>windemons have the coolest design space in magic
>>96996603i dont think ive really looked at Apocalypse demon before. love that art. love the ifnir demons are always rad.
okay, how about thisinstead of mana rocks, I use colorless dorks, so that I can cheat them out once rakdos enters. then, if he gets removed, I'm still able to cast my big guys (or cast him again) thanks to the ramp. genius or retarded?
Is the life gain multiple triggers of 1 life or 1 trigger of whatever the amount of attacking creatures is?The text on the card makes me think it's separate triggers of 1 life (The text hasn't been errated) but the ruling makes it seem like 1 trigger.
>>96996683you get a life for each creature that attacks.
>>96996688Yes but is it multiple triggers or 1?Does Angel of Vitality double the amount of life i gain or just give me 1 more than the amount of attacking creatures?
>>96996707multiple triggers of one life, if it said "one or more" then it would be one big instance of life gain
>>96996707you get 1 trigger of 1 life gain for each creature that attacks
>>96996707Multiple triggers. if 3 creatures are declared as attacking, you have 3 instances of gaining life.
multiple people trying to be helpful on 4chandid hell freeze over what the fuck
>>96996720>>96996722>>96996725Thanks, that's how i understood it but the 2005 ruling threw me for a loop because it talks like it's only 1 trigger of X life.
>>96996743i can only assume they overexplained it in case a reactive trigger gets stifled or if a creature entered tapped and attacking.
>>96996603xathrid demon looking like it's doing a rider kick is funny
>>96992252Based fellow Coldsnap fat pack enjoyer. Bought 4 from my LGS back in the day when they were blowing then out for the snow-covered basics in every box.
https://moxfield.com/decks/BzGeQh9x20GDEIsuU5d3ZQThoughts?
>>96996657found some secret tech
Is it okay to mentally check out if you know you aren't going to win? Even if I have interaction I'll just let shit resolve and make small talk>>96991287I always forget to bring tokens related to my deck and end up using random cards from other TCGs
>>96997190God I hate Jeskai. Worst colors. Only deck I ever made with it was a Numot land destruction deck.
>>96997190Man just print out the tokens you use and put them in penny sleeves in front of some bulk, i'm so tired of people having a bunch of different tokens that are represented by random things.Makes it impossible to read the board state.
>>96997190It can annoy people if you do it, but it annoys them even more when they’re not factoring you into their gameplan and only remember you exist when you drop your final piece of interaction to potentially screw them out of the win. >>96997202I wonder what Commander would have been like if it stuck to its original name and the only options to use were Legendary Dragon creatures.
>>96997256Well we wouldn't be talking about it for one.
>>96997256>I wonder what Commander would have been like if it stuck to its original name and the only options to use were Legendary Dragon creatures.It's why I tend to stick to them when making decks. One day I'll have a deck of each. You can always just set up your own rule/format with them and have other join in.
>>96997306And the OGs. At least the Chronicles versions are cheap. The upkeep keeps me from making them over the Invasion/PC ones.
Can this card be broken?
>>96997381it's pretty tame
>>96997381>>96997390Probably some ornithopter loop to draw entire deck.
When was the beginning of draw a card and do the thing?
