Previously on /slop/: >>96964373▶ Thread Task: Alternative armour. Ring mail; woven armour, padded armour, that sort of thing. ▶ Generatorshttps://bing.com/images/create/https://sora.chatgpt.com/https://gemini.google/overview/image-generation/https://perchance.org/ai-text-to-image-generatorhttps://civitai.com/Curious about local genning? Check out /g/'s stable diffusion OP or ask one of our friendly locals.▶ Perchance pastebin of generators and links:https://pastebin.com/XRGqaW4W (embed)▶ Sora artstyles/tips:https://rentry.co/29r5k2vo▶ /slop/-approved styles, prompts and perspectiveshttps://www.rentry.org/tgslop▶ Other useful resourcesColor identifiers -- https://www.htmlcolorcodes.com/List of art movements -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_art_movementsList of hair styles -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hairstylesWorld folk clothing -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_costumeWorld body armors -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_armorNames for general clothing styles (PDF) -- https://files.catbox.moe/3r0ux6.pdf
What do you think will eat these Kobolds?
ancient gen from when i was working on the design still
>>96991893>TTIt isn't the best, Bing sucks at making scene with many characters, but at least has some grasp on how eastern lamellar armor looks like. Unlike Perchance.
>>96991946Nice idea but vastly undercosted and with too much text. Since you're only casting cards you own I might get rid of the "use any mana" clause to free up space.
>>96992004>and with too much textsounds perfect for Magic around the time I got out of it.
>>96992004>>96992040That's a good idea, I was trying to shorten the text, but wasn't sure how.
Bone armor
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>>96992040Yeah Andrew Garfield, the original designer, definitely didn't follow the more minimal, modern philosophy
>>96991922cute>>96991893>TT>muscle armor
>>96991636I edited a perchance image with Gemini. This was the original but somehow it didn't save the image in the private gallery so I don't know what the original prompt was. It was along the lines of "laying with back against the wall, clutching bleeding wound on abdomen, cracked visor". But generally typing abdomen caused the guy to have his belly naked, and the visor was never broken even with changes to the prompt
"It'll stop a 12.7"."Then put it on the bloody APC. I'm lit up like a Christmas tree out here."Holographic armor is like battlemechs. It only works in Rule of Cool settings.
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>>96992296"You do understand what a visor is *for*, right?"
>>96991922if that mage there got any good spells behind that staff, maybe nobody will
>>96992193neat as the eye portal guy i like it>>96992196neat as the cyberpunkgirl at refueling station i like it
>TT
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>>96992321cool style like how its like low-key realistic >>96991893i like knight tactical, especially with sweaters
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Good morrow sloppers>>96991893>padded armour
>>96991893>"Glass armor, you say? Aye, this battle will be over before moonfall. Tell me when the woodland fops decide to don something that won't shatter when a real man sneezes in their general direction!" - General Thorgrim shortly before suffering massive losses at the Battle of the Weeping Willows
>>96993587>suffering massive losses at the Battle of the Weeping WillowsDidn't say he lost tho
>>96993731>Mail armor
>>96991893>"Handcrafted" Armor
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>>96992004>undercostedThat's not even close to pushed by current mtg design standards. It's a commander or limited bomb at best.
>>96993995Zam!
>when you nut but she keep suckin'
>>96994000Accelerating out a turn 2 or even 3 of that angel is fucking bonkers dude
>>96994061I think Skelettor will have a very ugly meeting with HR very soon.
>>96991893This looks like shit.
>>96992834>neatEven though it took a lot and I mean a lot of tries, it did crack the helmet and break the lenses like I asked. Though the eye is a bit too big and out of proportions, it does convey the panicked look I wanted
>>96994091What makes you say that?
>>96993779neat as the hand-gate/portal guy i like ithad a home brew item once that was a large, very heavy shield made from woven hands that could grab things out of reflex. "the Wardens Hundred Hungry Hands." in essence, a Warden nailed chopped of hands from thieves to his board. But many were just criminals out of desperation and hunger. Because of the greedy hands of corruption, draining the local economy and people. The shield sabotaged him in his fight, making him loose in a critical moment. Obviously, the players decided yeah that cursed thing stays with us, and we're going to teach it rude gestures as a taunt >>96994037Boars a underrated animal, and i would respect any coat of arms with them because they are mean, hardy fuckers.
>>96994167 nice
>>96994091>it'safraid.jpg
>>96994167very nice cool match oh the helm and face expression
>>96994096I like this guy>>96994167and this one
>>96994258>>96994454>>96994464Thank you. I'm going to bed now. Keep this thread going.
time for bed i keep getting the ip range warning that someone is doing dumb shit. >"Uploading files from your IP range has been temporarily blocked due to abuse [More Info].Please verify your e-mail address or try again later."so have some old motives and good night >>96994581good n8 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoDKHKhp0Bo
>>96995068No wonder she has to ride on this lizard. Nobody would be able to walk properly with such feet.
>>96995506>>96995667nice
>>96993587>glass armorCool concept. It encourages lewdness among elves.Also, I've realized that I've genned this Dark Eldar for a number of TTs. Should she get a name and join my cast of recurring 40k characters?
>>96995720No.
>78 posts ITT>still no gambeson Get fucked, tin cans, proper cloth chad coming through!
>>96995977Calling a gambeson alternative is like saying the teeshirt is hipster wear
https://youtu.be/kve3FCGWHAI?si=jQQAH3mRrJERJbLF&t=940
>>96995720Hot. But unless there's a character concept here beyond "lightly dressed space elf," I don't see why she'd need a name.
>>96996304'Stabby' and 'shooty' don't count as character traits?
>>96991922the undead kobolds deeper in the dungeon
>>96996349Only in Detroit.
>>96993344>dead airget it? heh
>>96995996From a historical standpoint, sure. But if you look at medieval fantasy media as a whole, you'll probably find more characters in wacky magic crystal armor than humble gambeson.
"We had 'second Halloween' on the full moon. Guess it's a California thing. Boyfriend saw me in this, decided spur-of-the-moment to sneak me out to a film set one of his bros is doing lighting shit for. Place out in the hills, got a whole Roman Colosseum set up.""The armor isn't even close to Roman, no. It's my aunt's, maybe 400-500 years old. Kind of thing you'd wear to court, just to show how much money you have to throw away. Perfectly good fighting armor, but you'd never wear it in battle. Might get *dirty*, or Ghu forbid, *scratched*.Some guy from the museum wants to 'restore' it: polish it up, get rid of the green. Aunt Teelia absolutely will not. Says the verdigris is 'good craic' .""Anyway, the boy n' me were there three or four hours, freak wanted to finish the painting right then and there. 'Inspired'. Never date an artist, kids.""Gets weirdly cold at night in L.A. this time of year. Next full moon, we're just gonna do a big ass bonfire, I think."
Are plate carriers acceptable?
>>96996426At least according to original D&D descriptions, "padded armor" is supposed to be a gambeson, so it would be more correct to show casters running around wearing them over their robes.Also, originally, the description for "studded leather" mentions that the studs are just the visual rivets holding metal plates on the interior of the armor. I.e., it's supposed to be lamellar. Gygax and friends did start D&D by spinning it off the historical RPG, Chainmail.But even D&D has forgotten that and the current description is just leather with rivets and spikes as reinforcements.
>>96996537>that the studs are just the visual rivets holding metal plates on the interior of the armor. I.e., it's supposed to be lamellarThat's not lamellar, that's a coat of plates or the later brigandine. Lamellar armor doesn't have the plates sewn into cloth, it's laces to a backing.
>>96991893I bought a new armored cape from Edgar. It seems a little clingy...
>>96997261Yep, yep, you're right. I used the wrong word. should have said brigandine.
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>>96996537Thanks for the insightful explanation of padded armour and mentioning that the studs in studded leather armour are the rivets holding the metal plates on the interior of the armour. On the topic, how would you describe ringmail? And would it be reasonable to label ringmail as peasant's chainmail due to its inferiority to actual chainmail worn by knights?Also, Dwarfposting.
>>96995081kek
>>96997560Those are just what I remember from 1e D&D, carried over from Chainmail. I couldn't find anything specifically for ring mail from a cursory Google search, but did find this quote, attributed to AD&D 2e:>Ring mail: This armor is an early (and less effective) form of chain mail in which metal rings are sewn directly to a leather backing instead of being interlaced. (Historians still debate whether this armor ever existed.)I'm trying to go to bed right now, but later I'll see if I can't find a PDF of the 1e PHB. And I'm pretty sure I still have an 2e PHB somewhere in this house to confirm that quote.
>>96997283>>96997270>>96997279neat >>96995977i think the issue is just many dont recognize gambeson as armor, even though is good and was common. more than parade plate
>>96997279Seems like a handy garment to have around
>>96991946Life pro tip: if your card takes 12 lines in text box.,then it's most likely shit. If it mentions exile then it's also most likely shit. If it's legendary mythic then it's definitely most likely shit. If it has a type mismatch (i.e. Angel Demon) then.... you know.
>>96994464This reminds me when I played a badger musketeer in an Ironclaw game. It didnt go anywhere but it was fun
>>96998306My friend ran a Jadeclaw campaign back in the days before furries made everyone anthro-fatigued. From what I remember it wasn't a bad system.
>>96994211>>96993401I like your style. Which AI you used for these pics? can you share the prompt, maybe?
Good morrow sloppers>>96998362NTA and can't provide prompt but they use ComfyUI and a mossacannibalis lora at minimum
>>96998436morning
>>96998535
hey guys, I want to use an AI image generator to generate images of the heraldries/flags for the various nations in a science fiction campaign I'm running. Any advice for prompt engineering and which AI to use that would create the best images of the flags/heraldries?
Who would win: Vikings doing laundry or Great White Shark?
>>96998744>which AIDepends partially on what you want on the heraldry, but mostly on the resolution you can tolerate. Bing is fine for simple designs for simple prompts, perchance to make moderate complexity designs by using very long prompts and needs cleanup if you aren't specific enough, Google is "good" but really likes to take liberties with your prompt. So the engineering side for the online free generators differs wildly. If you're someone who wants to do it locally, you'll need another anon here to help with that. I've not done it yet and I'm not sure which diction and formatting is used in the prompts themselves.
>>96998436|･ω･)ﾉ
eveningsidenote i dislike that tomorrow is monday
>>96998744I'd go with SoraA highly detailed, realistic 3D Final Fantasy-inspired artwork of a shield mounted on on a wall with chintz wallpaper. warm, dim ambience. the heraldry on the shield is of a black boar playing the bagpipes.
Four armed mutant werewolf with a magic motorcycle
>>96998901I don't know which one is cooler
>>96998905But i like these three
>>96998901>>96998905>>96998911Another Johnny Eleven-Dicks?
>>96998750lmao>>96998792\ (･ω ･|>>96998871I feel ya bro
>>96998920It's just the two actually, but I think the four arms mutation gives him a fucked up mutant bodhisattva vibe. I should stat the guy out, he's kinda fun
>>96997684NTA, but I happen to have the 1e books handy:>Ring Mail is relatively soft leather armor over padding. To the long coat ofleather are sewn metal rings. This makes the coat rather heavy and bulky.At 30gp, it's less than half the price of chain, and slightly lighter. Much more expensive than basic leather, which is 5gp.Padded isn't that much cheaper than leather, 4gp to leather's 5, and it weigs a third less. But per the DMG, it's bulkier and more confining; max move of 9" rather than leather's 12"Gygax has no opinion on whether any of these sets actually existed historically. I've heard that 'boiled' leather wasn't really a thing either, but I could be wrong about that.
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>>96999100Ooh! Historical armor discussion!So what I know about boiled leather was that it was rarely used and our only historical examples come from the late medieval period where they were decorative pieces worn by knights (read: rich assholes) over mail on the arms and sometimes chest. So it's definitely not something we have evidence of anyone making a full suit of armor out of. We have found samples of boiled rawhide armor dating back to the Roman period, preserved in the Middle East, so we don't know if the Romans wore it or their enemies of the day did.Even if you could make a full set of boiled leather, it would be exceedingly expensive and restrictive of movement and not near as protective as a good old gambeson.Now the real debate is what the Greek hoplites wore. Yes, some of the wealthier could afford bronze breastplates, but not everyone could. We tend to call the general purpose armor "linothorax" based on the theory of it being hardened layers of linin glued together. But we have no samples of full armor, just one small bit or hardened linen that was found to be held together with rabbit fat. Modern recreations did find that it was possible, but the lack of historical samples (biological materials don't last) leaves much up for debate.
>>96998911>>96998905>>96998901fucking Spirals...
>>96999435>fucking spiralsYou mean the verb right?
>>96999435So much rage around sister... not all of us are monsters
>>96999435>>96999583Whoever was in WoD setting, what's actually a difference between Stolen Moon and Skin Dancer?
>>96999592Skin Dancers use a specific ritual to become a garou, but there's more than a few ways to LARP as a werewolf, all fake werewolves are Stolen Moons. As far as I know at least
>>96999583*Ahroun sisterSorry for the spiders in my phone
>>96999613I asked because of what appeared in the filler for Hunter: The Parenting, most notably what Kronik was transforming into. As considering the art used in the video, he looked like a human wearing a werewolf skin, which was also way too big for his posture. I wanted to know a proper term for it, because I remember hearing both of them.
>>96999583Wyrmish nonsense. You've walked the Spiral, it's better to put you down to be certain.
>>96999703cool concept
>>96999435>>96999168>>96999703neat
>>96999100>boiled' leather wasn't really a thing eitherIt was. There's confusion on how they did it, though manual describe the process but with terms we don't know what they imply and assuming familiarity of a contemporary.
>>96999246You aren't really right. We know they had leather breastplates in the medieval period. Cuirass derives from cuir bouille, i.e. boiled leather, and we have mentions already in the 12th century of "cuirasses". Ironically, a proper gambeson is more expensive because it's a much more laborious process of stitching multiple layers and stuffing them. The thing is that leather was piece meal protection. Limbs, like vambraces and scynbalds, and breastplates. You're thinking of aielettes which were more often (likely) not leather but paper. Lighter and cheaper since they were decorative.
>>96999660I've walked the spiral & come back outI have conquered the wyrm
>>96999714>>96999737thanks
>>96999809So I was aware of the cuir bouille-to-cuirass pipeline in the name, and the fact that leather could come in large sheets far easier than metal (before the 14th century at least) it make sense that it COULD have been worn as a full breastplate. I just couldn't find any reliable historical record of such. And there's debate on whether leather cuirasses would have even been one large piece. Samples of horse armor exist that are just strips of hardened leather held together with textiles. Of course, this being 4chan, I don't expect anyone to bother digging much deeper than the first few pages of google.But I feel like digging at least into the citations on Wikipedia. There's debate on whether or not the leather was even boiled at all considering how brittle it becomes once dried. It's more likely it was soaked in cold water overnight before being pressed into its mold and then heated. It's been theorized that it was stabilized with hot beeswax, but that would generally cause it to degrade faster and the only hardened leather samples we do have that were treated with wax are knife sheaths, bottles, bags, and other utility items from the Elizabethan era.I will retract the statement about it being bulkier than gambesons. Properly molded to the client would be light and offer good ease of movement. Though other sources suggest it, like most maille armour, would have still been worn over a textile armour like a gambeson. Some sources if you'd like to read more.https://web.archive.org/web/20070823204110/http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc-carlson/leather/hl.html https://books.google.com/books?id=HqRsCyAeg8cC&pg=PA97#v=onepage&q&f=falsehttps://books.google.com/books?id=_KWjCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA10#v=onepage&q&f=falsehttps://books.google.com/books?id=9WsABAAAQBAJ&pg=PA94#v=onepage&q&f=false
>>96999640>Skin DancerLegitimate woof transformation rite only available to kinfolk>Stolen MoonAnybody can do it, it's a Wyrmish rite that permanently taints your soulIt's essentially all werewolf larping, because a big part of werewolf is the spiritual component of interacting with Wyld and Weaver spirits that Stolen Moon don't get while Skin Dancers(a proper tribe) get with the Minotaur spirit and his workers.Other ways to larp as a Woof include>Life + Prime Mage turning Crinos>High protean/Vicissitude Warform/Zulo>Changeling Name bullshitI'm unsure if there are other ways, but essentially only Skin Dancers get the same spiritual dealings. Mages can just enslave spirits though
>>97000056So can Tremere (Path of Spirit Manipulation)
>>97000090>Tremere stolen moonThat would just make them suicidally insane without 10 willpower
>>97000056So the term used by the guy analyzing that episode was right. Kronik and his brothers were Stolen Moons, just like the rest of their family.Another question, but about werewolves in general: how common is a trope of a werewolf which doesn't need full moon/night to transform? Or more precisely, can transform at will in any given moment, but mostly triggered by anger?
>>97000203true Werewolves in WoD (including the middle child series Werewolf: the Forsake) have never needed full moons. The phase of the moon when you first change, which just happens on its own, determines your role in Werewolf society whether it's a good fit for your personality or not because Luna is a crazy bitch.
>>97000226So again in general, making a person that can transform, and stay transformed, while keeping its mind as a werewolf is something that may take place in different settings?
>>97000245>making a person that can transform, and stay transformed, while keeping its mind as a werewolf is something that may take place in different settings?Yes? I'm sure it's happened elsewhere too. Who gives a fuck
>>97000275Because I've planned something like this for the story.
>>96998744what are are you looking for ? just pictures or with text ? reworking them is often needed. modern or classic style ?
>>97000245Anything is permissible in your setting at your table, that's the beauty of this medium anon. You should probably have a reason/explanation why it differs from the typical myths if you're setting it on an alternate Earth though.
>>97000203WoD werewolves are associated with the moon spirit in terms of their auspice (basically like a werewolf clan position) and spiritual energy but they are unique also in that werewolf shifting is independent of the moon at all. This isn't a terribly unique trope but the being unaffected by the full moon bit is. They believe in that stuff in a more superstitious capacity like>X moon is good for huntingBut they don't require the moon to function. >>97000245>Keep their mindPreWod5 yes, woofs could just chill in Crinos without chudding out and frenzy all over the place unless they really have high rage or lose control.Werewolf 5 though? Not really, Crinos is s mentally unstable murder form that progresses the user to frenzy when there is no immediate threat, and a frenzy makes a werewolf woof out and smash things. As for woofs controlling themselves as a trope, not really common but not unique eitherUsually woofs kinda go wolf brain when they transform in media(Garou don't do this) and the hybrid form stuff is typically an almost mindless hulk smash mode (Garou still do this but within reason)I think Van Helsing in the movie was fully in control? I'm not a huge fan of non-WoD werewolf stuff to seek out but they're usually horror movie monsters so yeah
>>97000319Werewolf Van Helsing still killed his love interest by mistake IIRC
>>97000303>>97000319It's for fantasy. And since it's a villain for a current segment of a plot, I wasn't that focused on thinking on such details, other than he could transform at will, remain transformed, and he retains his personality and ability to speak, along with some manual abilities like using weapons.
>>97000324Oof, my bad then. Been so long I forgot>>97000334That's pretty fine, though you should probably try to keep your werewolves consistent. DnD werewolves can speak and shit sometimes but usually being a werewolf makes them slightly insane and uncontrollable around the full moon without magic.I actually think Harry Potter did werewolves pretty tastefully in that they just turn into a dogman and go crazy on full moons
>>97000354I think HP version is the most popular one in popculture. Someone turns into a wolfman during full moon, forgeting everything about his human self, does some shit, and the next morning they wake up somewhere in the forest, not remembering what they did during the night.
>>97000379Yeah, pretty much. It's compelling by nature of making the werewolf both a victim and a monster, instead of trying to overcomplicate it it just is
Wait, do you zoomers actually think Rowling was the one who invented the crazy full moon dogman werewolf?
>>97000463>I think that HP did it pretty tastefully>Somehow this translates to I think Rowling invented werewolvesClearly not, I'm just saying it's one of the most famous modern examples of Woofs done right without making them a core focus
>>96998436Morning
>>97000537I would with a paper bag, lay off the botox lady
What are the best models for using plain english descriptions instead of booru tags?Illustrious models shit themselves if you don't use tags.
>>97000051>considering how brittle it becomes once driedBecause the process is more complex than that. You don't boil it in water, it becomes useless as armor. It's still called boiled leather in french, so if you want to be pedantic it's hardened leather in english. I don't have the recipes on hand, but multiple people have some their own variations following historical sources.
>>97000699Flux I suppose. There's also this new one called Qwen (I think that's how it's spelled) but apparently it needs a really beefy rig
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>>97001487>>97001603>>97001775>>97001785So, is this intended to show the "furry spectrum," from a human with a tiger head, to literally just a 100% tiger wearing jewelry?Still would. A cat is fine too.
>>97001785>>97001818no, they are elder scrolls subraces
It gets pretty same-y after awhile but Perchance's persona generator is pretty fun/funny
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>>97001890>>97001818>Elder Scrolls has such cool beast races and Khajit variance with a lot of cool lore>none of it is ever in game and will ever be in gamePain
last one
I lied
Greetings from New Ork City.
Some really imaginative gens this thread. Good choice of thread topic.
>>97003466This is literally my D&D circle of stars druid.
>>96991893>TT>glitch armor
>>97005403nice concept
Good morrow sloppers
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>>97003466neat >>97004963great for my preggers fetish. question whats the opposite of getting porked?
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>>97005912Fucking horrifying!
>TT"What do you think? I'm told they come from some place called 'Azeroth'. I guess pauldrons are a big thing there."
>>96974917Some time before the equicide...The news of the humans in town spread like wildfire, with gossip trailing even faster. In the library, staff members buzzed about their rowdy and churlish behavior, recounting how they had barged into the town hall, even threatening Lord Magistrate himself. Now, these same humans were reportedly at the inn, drinking the cheapest beer and wine as if they owned the place.Andris, upon hearing all this, initially decided to take an alternative route home to avoid them. However, the Dean called her aside. The Magistrix explained to the young librarian that this current "nuisance" might actually be turned to the town's advantage. Lord Magistrate was even now discussing potential terms with the group's leader. But for Andris, a more immediate task awaited: she had to go to the forest, meet with Skogsrå, and explain the unfolding situation.The young librarian was directed to the secret underground passage connecting the town to the forest, a route known to only a select few. Once there, she settled in to wait for Autumn. Two hours crawled by, and the night grew darker and colder, yet there was no sign of the Fae. Worrying that the meeting wouldn't materialize, Andris was on the verge of returning to town.
>>97007384I think Edgar would find a perfect business partner in Griftah.
>>97007437True. They're both trolls.>Edgar Scrolls casts Sage Armor"Doesn't protect worth a damn, but it smells nice."
>>96991893>TTSecond sword was unprompted but I won't complain.
>>97007384>AzerothOh. I thought you said Azathoth and wanted to take a look at it. Now pardon me while I panic.
>>97007539>Edgar Scrolls casts Sage Hand / Rage Hand
>>97007639No page hand?
>>97007602always need when something randomly cool happens >mfw
>>97007739Hot
>>97007739>she dried for our fins
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>>97007962You know the drill
>>97008082oops sorry i'm entering a tunnel someone else will have to bake
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