>>96993760
Context, anon?

>frogposter-lite thread
kill yourself OP

>>96993760
>Wait all week for session
>DM cancels on the last minute

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>>96993775
>be DM
>spend 3 days narrowing down days and times for this week
>narrow it down to Saturday afternoon
>"I'm free Saturday at 1:30, if that works for everyone."
>Whole party gives it a thumbs up
>Day of, nobody shows up
I thought I made it clear
>>96993804
Heh you used a reaction image? Frogposter frogposter frogposter

>>96993825
I assume this is a RL game?

>>96993825
Ye, and all the players live close

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>Players constantly seem like they're having no fun at all
>Try my hardest to get them to engage but they refuse to acknowledge almost every hook, every NPC that asks them for help, only murder drives them.
>Constantly complain to me when we're not playing that they hate combat heavy sessions because they drag on forever
>Everytime I ask a question I get blank stares and silence until I suggest a course of action and then they just follow that
>"Wow that was such a good session see you next week!"

>>96993993
Christ, my group is just like this.
Agonizing

>>96993993
How about
>DM has set up encounter
>Group blunders into encounter
>Suddenly have idea of how to turn encounter in groups favor
>But quiet and shy so more charismatic players talk over idea and make a whole plan by the numbers
>Just cast fireball anon your turn is taking too long

>>96993760
>spend two weeks helping players draw up sheets and developing a world for them to explore
> game time
>nobody gives half a fuck about literally any of it

No more making characters for my players or making anything new. Nothing but modules and the dumb shit PCs they come up with from now on I guess.

>>96994394
IDK about the world, but frankly I would never care about a PC that's handed to me by the DM.

>this guy that always wants to roll random character personality and traits
>always ends up with some variation of a supposedly good guy
>always starts behaving like a sociopath or a murderhobo at best
>now wants to join our L5R politics/court-focused campaign
>he wants to play a shinobi
mmmm....

>>96994588
I'm trying to introduce them to a new system, I asked them about a thousand fucking times what they wanted to play as and built characters that I reviewed with them that they approve of, but once it's time to actually play all I get is FUCKING NOTHING

>Rips ass in the middle of a session
>Have to have the hygiene conversation for the first time
Why?

Thanks for making me appreciate my group more.

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>>96993760
>everyone's turn takes at least 2 minutes even though they're just attacking with their weapon again
>my turn takes less than 30 seconds
>I'm the caster

>>96994620
didn't seem like they were interested in that new system to begin with, anon. Whose idea was it?

>>96993760
>running session
>look at players
>don't seem that interested or engaged
>they're paying attention and playing but the spark clearly isn't there
Maybe I really am a bad DM...

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>>96993760
>arrange a game of warhammer with someone
>doesn't tell me he can't make it until 20 minutes after we were supposed to start
Dude apparently did this to about a half-dozen people in our campaign before word got around and he stopped getting invited to things.

>>96994394
Why I won't go near anything with any amount of crunch. If we can't roll a character in 5 minutes it's simply not worth playing with my group.

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>no one likes your map

>>96993825
>ok, sunday at 1:30 it is then
>game exists

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>>96993760
>host wargaming night
>have painted terrain, proper ply board and spare armies
>even providing a meal, snacks and drinks
>one person turns up, others don't even bother to message saying they aren't coming
Is this mainly a millennial problem or do other generations have to deal with this shit as well

>>96993760
>spend years hearing about a game and how everyone has fun playing it
>see clips of people playing the game
>listen to advice pieces on various aspects of the game
>want to play the game, but nobody in the area plays
>or so I thought
>reconnect with old friends, apparently they have a group playing the game
>get invited to play
>fuck yeah
>make a character with reasonable chance to survive and be effective
>session time
>spend hours listening to DM drone on about some ancient heroes serving some ancient gods
>after the infodump prologue, continue to listen to DM drone on about how are characters are automatically all together and are a part of some guild that the heroes of who cares established in the name of the gods of why
>get to a point where we can finally do something
>or so I thought
>group is supposed to move through town as a single mass
>the shops we are able to visit with any items of interest well beyond our starting gold; items are gone in future sessions when we can afford one or two
>minutes of bog standard combat between hours of exposition and rambling
>started taking notes to get at least some kind of engagement out of it
>villains and events have no connection to each other, plot beats have no internal consistency
>after a few repeat offenses, only showed up to sessions because I liked hanging with those friends
>stop taking notes after a while, just spend each session going with the flow
>tfw you were promised a game but don't get to play one

>>96993993
>I give people stimuli they don't react to
>I know!
>Let's double down on doing things they aren't engaging with!
>They had fun?
>Holy shit, session ruined for me!
Nigga, any functional adult would get a clue that you aren't working together with that group and would FIND A DIFFERENT GROUP YOU DENSE MOTHERFUCKER

>>96993825
sounds like you need better friends

>>96994394
>Retard nigga does extra-stupid shit
>Game time
>The most predictable thing possible happens
I'm willing to assume your post is fabrication and a bait. Because the alternative is you having room temperature IQ and/or being 14 yo.

>>96994620
>I'm trying to introduce them to a new system,
Then do so, you absolute retard, instead of playing game for them, you unbearable moron
>I asked them about a thousand fucking times what they wanted to play
Then make that thing happen instead of
>as and built characters that I reviewed with them that they approve of
Like are you fucking mentally impaired? Did they drop you as a baby few times too many?

It reads like you are absolutely fucking retarded. As in - medically, not figuratively.
You have a system that requires more than 10 minutes to make new characters, despite you apparently have experience with it AND requires YOU doing characters for players.
You then make characters for players... and are in any fucking way surprised they do not react in any fucking way to not just having an unfamiliar game, but now playing with pre-made characters
So you suck at explaining the system and then actively contribute to your players not getting engaged. All while you are not running a one-shot for randos you will never see again, so there really is no fucking point skipping the character generation with them

You have only yourself and your embarrassing stupidity to blame for any of this

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>>96993760
>Every store in my area has adopted discord for arranging games
>Every store has someone with too much time on their hands who jumps on every lfg request
>Store 10 minutes away has an obese turbo autist power gamer who gripes about anything that might make him lose and doesn't stop whining until you're tabled, does not have the mental or emotional fortitude to play a game involving dice
>Store 20 minutes away has a guy who doesn't know his rules or basic game rules and eventually you stop derailing your game for 10 minutes to consult rulebook and explain he's wrong, or it makes games take 5 hours, definitely should have been gatekept at some point
>Store 25 minutes away has a tranny who is obviously a fetishist, will snap if you say 'oh man' or 'dude' in his general vicinity, will bring up his fake period, almost definitely gets off on validation

To the surprise of absolutely no one none of these stores have a functional community, just these losers who hunt discord like sharks and devour any new blood

There's also the guy from the next county over who responds to month old requests for games and acts like you've confirmed and will show up to the store and throw a fit and permanently try to dissuade anyone else from engaging with you for this imagined slight but this guy has genuinely been institutionalized for half his adult life.

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>>96993760
>Join a game for system I enjoy set in a modern-ish urban setting I also enjoy
>GM is a fan of the setting, but is setting it in our city instead of where the setting usually takes place, which is fine
>Roll up a character that the GM and other player's enjoy
>Three other players are all new to the system, Normal, Scion and Wizard
>Normal is new to TTRPGs but used to be big into freeform roleplaying so catches on quick, plays a mundane person in this urban fantasy setting
>Scion is playing the Scion of a death god, they're new to the system but have been playing/running RPGs for awhile now
>Have great chemistry with Normal and Scion player-to-player and PC-to-PC
>Wizard makes a brooding lonewolf wizard
>GM gives Wizard's character a macguffin item and ties his backstory to major antagonists that will help fuel the plot
>Wizard only shows up to about 30% of sessions, tells the GM to just run his character when he can't show
>Since he's a lonewolf he never wants to engage with the other PCs and gets actively paranoid
>Turns out he's literally brand spanking new to TTRPGs and this is his first campaign and he has a background in fucking competitive board games and studied gametheory and shit
>Table had to actually stop session and tell him that this isn't a competitive game and we're not actively trying to fuck him over even if the characters are somewhat antagonistic at the get go
>On top of all this GM has never actually ran this system but ran other systems that use the same base mechanics
>Informed the GM I knew the system pretty well
>GM said they liked that someone knew the mechanics and could help them at the table with that sort of stuff
>I have to explain to the GM a few times how VERY basic game mechanics work, like stopping someone from being able to move with a grab
>GM's handwaive rulings contradict multiple rules and actual nulify character choices taken by the players but I put up with it cause at least I'm having fun roleplaying
(1/2)

>>96996298
>Game tone is relatively serious with the occasional joke to break tension
>Enter player four, Chef
>Chef is a certified 60-something grognard who runs a local AD&D game that GM is a player in
>Makes a joke character, a chef who throws kitchen knives and hits people with a frying pan
>Grognard is also in a mindset that players should always be reactive to world the GM presents, not proactive
>Will literally just sit around and do nothing while the other players roleplay
>Find out that Chef was likely only invited since his house was closer to myself and Wizard, GM thought Wizard would show up more
>However new location makes it harder for Scion to attend
>Wizard still doesn't show up any more often
>Game has been postponed a number of times, sometimes for good reason like Normal getting a well paying job but having to work a few weeks where they couldn't take game night off
>GM had been using discord for planning sessions
>I've had to ping them now multiple weeks in a row to confirm whether or not game is even happening each week

>>96993825
>saturday
Here's your mistake, most people prefer to go out on weekends instead of playing games in a room.
>inb4 but muh work!
Me an my group (all employed) play either monday, tuesday or wednesday evening-night (21:00-00:00), games are short but we have near perfect attendance this way.

>>96993760
While this has happened to me in the past, I've found that players that I get are eager and show up for things right up until I start trying to make one-shots into something with a routine schedule.

It got to the point that if players start no-showing, I take the hint and don't even bother trying to scheduling games. It sucks for any players that still want to keep going but there's a minimum number of players you need to make RPGs work, and I'm tired of hounding people to do the bare minimum of showing up once or twice a month.

That's the nice thing about wargaming though, you just need two players, no prepwork outside of painting minis, and one-shots are the norm.

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>>96993760
Just in case this is not a rant against nud&d specifically:
>be me
>love ttrpgs a whole lot since i was 14
>my ttrpg enjoier peers (the ones i can consistently game with the most) are all 3.PF, 5e and PF2e buildfaggots exclusively interested in aimless skirmishes and have their entire character progression extensively planned out from the get go
>tfw i'm more of a simulationist grog (eg: rolemaster, gurps, brp) or old school adjacent (eg: ad&d 2e, wfrp 1e), i love to have my characters taking sometimes curve balls from the world that change their development drastically (like getting phisically/psychologically scarred in some way or getting screwed out of their element), having them adapt to the environment and making their story out of it
Like i perfectly understand that my friends behavior in this regard is mostly dictated by them being passionate about that specific facet of the game and having to engage in this hobby only at times (because of work, life etc...) so they try to squeeze the most out of it, but the same can be said for me. I love this hobby because i'm invested in discovery and immersion rather than engaging in something akin to an analog video game or a boardgame with extra steps and it pains the shit out me having to be a minority in my own group when engaging with this goddamn hobby.
>inb4 groom new players
I did but i can't yet to find a consistent enough group as my main one nor i have much time for continuously scouting new players, last game i had with these other guys was 2 years ago (we're still in touch and hang out at times though). That said i would love to be a fucking player sometimes and not a forevergm every time i want to step out of the usual routine.

>American daytime
>This shit-thread is instantly bumped back from the bottom of the catalog

>>96998347
It's gine for people to have other plans for weekend. It's obviously not fine for people to give thumbs up to a suggestion of a session on weekend and then just not show up, though.

>>96993760
>Control freak DM
>Two first time players
>One, a "vampire wizard" hellbent on showing up every session and autistically hyperfixated on character
>Over 300 character notes as compared to the others' 10-30
>Autist is generally nice to everyone
>Still very anxious and seemingly unwilling to get close
>Get our asses brutalized by 3-5 encounters per session
>DM spergs out and boots 2 players, refuses to clarify why with them
>Usually enemies are weighted in their favor and not equal to us
>Two players including Autist decide to torture a goblin for information, DM's donut steel NPC leaves, seethes so hard he gets burnt out for 2 months
>Returns, gears up encounter with Arc boss
>Says he wants to rewrite everything afterwards and do a time skip
>Constantly changing what he wants to do with PCs
>Starts getting vocally annoyed with players, making digs at their expense
>Players usually find it funny, Autist plays into it
>Kill Arc 1 boss
>Things go fine for a bit
>Autist has a mental break and enters psychosis
>His donut steel being what he uses to ground himself
>DM clearly frustrated by Autist
>Autist doesn't realize
>DM starts making announcements vagueing Autist
>Autist gets paranoid
>Session comes
>Hardlocks players into battle with CR5 vampire spawn
>Veteran player betrays entire party
>Including the player that was there the longest
>Players are nearly all TPK'd
>Autist killed out of initiative
>Seems to take it well at first
>Death of character made obsession 5x worse
>DM tard rages and boots 2 players including Autist and the last remaining original PC

>>96995949
Gen Z has this problem too. My fucking group is all millenials and Gen Z fuckers and the no shows are ridiculous. They’ve stopped even mentioning that they’re cancelling or no showing. I love them but they are a damn nightmare, if they were anyone else I wouldn’t be so nice about it.

>sessions start slowing down, people start no showing and dropping out
>make one last session as a sendoff
>paint minis, make maps, write npcs
>spend a lot of actual effort on this after the middle part of the campaign which was mostly modules and presets
>everyone no shows except one guy
>ask if he even wants to run the final session
>”not really”
shit killed me inside. maybe I’m a terrible dm

>>96995949
>>96999490
It's a "fuck you, I've got better things than hanging with you" problem. It's cross-generational, and literal boomers and even the silent generation do this kind of thing
Get a clue, clowny - they just don't want to spend time with you.

>>96999586
>maybe I’m a terrible dm
>maybe
Nigga, people didn't even want to show up for a send off. Do you have any idea how hard it takes to fuck up that the group not only doesn't want to play with you in general, but even give you the courtesy of giving you the coup of grace?
Why people are so fucking confused when this happens to them, especially among fa/tg/uys, is beyond me.

>>96999490
Yeah, there's some people with serious confrontation issues who would much rather just ghost than pick up the phone to say "Sorry, mate, I'm just not feeling it today" and annoyingly it seems even more common in nerdier circles.

>>96999769
To call someone means you actually give a fuck.
Take a wild guess what's not happening

>>96999727
>Why people are so fucking confused when this happens to them, especially among fa/tg/uys, is beyond me.

Maybe they expect other people to be honest with them, not their fault some people are sociopaths.

>>96999785
>To call someone means you actually give a fuck.

No its basic decency you have the right to expect from everyone.

>>96993993
What system do you all use?

>>96999727
I didn’t see any signs nor did I hear any feedback, that’s what gives me doubts. Afterwards the group completely splintered and we played nothing after. Only other dm quit. I didn’t even want to dm to begin with but no one else would do it.

>>96999718
>>96999785
No showing is woman behavior. Have some fucking accountability.

>be me
>Not forever DM
>Ask friends if they'd like to play Vampire (20th Ed) or Mage/Worship
>They agree
>Still won't finish their fucking character sheets
Reeeee it isn't this hard

>>97000205
>People didn't give a shit
>I somehow didn't notice
>I didn’t even want to dm to begin with but no one else would do it.
Here is a clue: don't do things you don't want to. The rest of the group understood that

>>97000218
You know what's an actual woman behaviour?
Crying to random strangers that you are a friendless loser people don't even consider calling before they dump your ass

>>97000068
>No its basic decency
That means you give a fuck.
If you don't - it's nothing.
>you have the right to expect from everyone.
An they have right to not give a fuck about your expectations.

Are you fucking 5? No, really - are you?

>>97000060
This has nothing to do with sociopathy. Whoever told you people owe you anything in your life at any point lied to you to make you feel better. Take a look where it got you. And that expectation barely covers for closest family members, not to mention strangers that hang out with you.
And if you are expecting anything from people at any point, you have only yourself to blame when they don't deliver.
They owe you nothing.

>having a weekly board game night in college
>one last meet up, after graduating
>about to move across the country
>finality hits, when you clean up your favourite game

>all other players are their own persons with thoughts, feelings, motivations and their own method of approach, and don't play the game like you want them to

sigh

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>>97000772
>Different people do things differently
SHOCKING!

>>96999727
that's assuming the group wants to play in the first place, the reality is that a lout of groups are just roped into it by the gm

>>97000772
you're joking, but I wish people could adapt to things I want to run. I'm okay adapting to the players, but there are things I want to run and I just have to give up because they're not gonna work and that kinda sucks a bit.

>>97000841
Which is precisely what happened here, given the further reply by anon. Yet he's still in the state of arrested development, because the group didn't even bother to tell him they are done after he half-assed after someone else.
Like the classic fucking tale, but he's still in shock

>>97000873
1) Ask them about it
2) Have another group (if you have just one, you have only yourself to blame)
3) Run an open table for people precisely interested in what you want to run
This isn't rocket science, this is the level of social competence expected from a 12 yo

>>97000828
yeah shit sucks

>>97000659
Deeply ironic post

>>97000930
I mean more broadly than that, a lot of groups are just a bunch of normalfags that don't actually want to play rpgs in general, not just that particular game, but are basically peer pressured into it

>>96999769
I literally have to speak for my sister because she always does that and I cannot comprehend why. It's easier to have clear, concise communication, especially with TTRPGs.

>>97001170
>Another retard doesn't get the memo
People don't want to talk to you.
At fucking all.
Including telling you they are done.
That's how much they are done.
>b-but ghosted
If a group falls apart, it doesn't mean anyone ghosted you. It means you fucked up big time as a gm

>>97000653
Nah pal I’m not friendless I’m just not friends with lowborn niggers like you who don’t value peoples’ time cause your own time is valueless.

>>97001208
>Nah pal I’m not friendless
>Get abandoned by an entire group
Careful with that copium, it's bad for kidneys

>>97001208
aren't you the guy whose friends don't value his time tho?

>>97001218
>>97001220
>double reply
your time really is worthless

>>97001234
nigga, you are literally complaining that your friends don't value your time and effort and just ghost you like you don't matter

>>96996256
I fucking hate discord, it’s like a sloppy community forum but at least a forum doesn’t time me out and send me soaring to the new posts if I step away for an hour

>>96998674
>One, a "vampire wizard" hellbent on showing up every session and autistically hyperfixated on character
>Over 300 character notes as compared to the others' 10-30
>Autist is generally nice to everyone
While they might have made a bit of a cringey character, everyone has made an edgy character at some point and I'll take a sociable autist who actually engages with the game and shows up instead of someone who barely pays attention.

>>97000218
>No showing is woman behavior.
It's 'fuck you got mine' behavior which is a boomer trait that has sadly become generational if not societal at this point.

>>97000535
Unironically solved by using Session 0, run them through chargen all at once.

>>96998665
We get it, you play the dark eye with ribbons and wooden blocks and get SO much more out of the experience, now find a relevant thread for your interests

>>97001310
>Anon tries to play a tough guy, defending a literal crybaby thread

>>97001208
>I keep sieg heiling every roll, why can’t I keep a table?
Goosestep into hell racefaggot

>>97000772
AAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEHHHH

>>97001337
>whiney loser comes to thread only to whine in a loser manner after his 3rd AI advertisement thread gets archived

>>97000981
One doesn't exclude the other. The bottomline is still the same: the group fell apart, because it wasn't a group in the first place.
On average, a typical "game with friends" group goes tits-up in just 5 meetings. That's about the time people need to know if they are actually into this, or if they've been pressured into being there.
But then you've got threads like this one, when it happens not to a school kid in mid-school or early high-school, but when they are already (supposedly) adult and fully functional, yet get worse reaction than a teen.

>>97001408
I didn't ask for your self-identification, bro

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>>96993813
>wait all week for session
>it sucks

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>>97001472
My DM has no shitty sessions

>>97000659
Dunning Krueger the post

>>97001569
Nta, but I suggest checking what Dunning-Kruger effect even is

>>97001188
I'm not the anon you were arguing with, retard.

>>97001304
I did :(

>>96993993
>DM makes every session a monster funnel.
>No matter what we do, the quantum ogre monster battle is just going to spawn.
>If everyone stops talking, in 10 seconds the DM will say, "So? You go to the monster battle?"
>The plot isn't engaging, feels like I'm just being prodded along with contrived bullshit.
>Shit just happens around us all the time like cutscenes are playing, and eventually the fight starts even if if I just zone out and sit here.
>I don't even roleplay anymore and nobody seems to have noticed.
>Show up to sessions literally because I have a social obligation to my friend group to provide damage in combat encounters.
>To me, this is like weekly disc golf. Mildly boring, but sometimes mildly exciting.
>It's something to do that's low cost and low engagement.

>>96994605
Guys like that can be fun if you learn to stop fighting them and just go with them into it. Take the shinobi for example; he's probably going to wind up poisoning people, and using plots and schemes to scam his way into a pervy political marriage or something. However, that kind of shit can be a good thing if you're willing to adapt to a gray, cunty kind of atmosphere. He wants to play a dubious faggot, but if the setting is right, why not just let him? Samurai history is full of utilitarian, cunty warlords. It might be a fun and immersive topic to explore.

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>Spend all week looking forward to doing a bunch of hobbying at the weekend
>do none of it and just fuck around on videogames or whatever

>>97003311
The most human experience of all.

>group has fight over politics several years ago
>one player who they didn't like anyway got kicked out
>too weak to quit at the time
>now just waiting for the day I am compromised and they find out is m the same
>that sense of camaraderie is gone at least for me
>realize I was always an outsider to them despite gaming with them almost a majority of my life
>they don't realize it of course
>they would happily spot me 20 bucks and forget about it, doing many kind favors for me, and just if only they knew a few things I said or believed, they would regret every one of their kind acts
>don't say anything because I don't want to compromise years of creative effort and taint it with irl bullshit arguments.

>>97003374
You may be surprised but people tend to agree almost on 100% topics, most of the time is just a matter of (social engeneered) framing and labels that divide us. Just try to find the right key and you will freely act genuine about your feelings with your friends.

>>97000659
>>97000659
>That means you give a fuck.

No it means you're not a shitty person, you're supposed to be considerate of other people and not waste their time, 'not giving a fuck' is not an excuse. Why are you defending scum?

>>97003890
you don't need an excuse if you don't care about the person you're inconveniencing

>>97003890
>Noooo, you are just a shitty person
... who doesn't give a fuck about you or your opinions, thus: doesn't have to report anything to you.
The fact you can't grasp such basic concept that people not only can, but are allowed to not give a fuck about you paints you as either autistic or at the very least home-schooled

>>97003374
I’m much the same. One is a tranny and I think trooning out is due to autism and mental health issues. Turning yourself into a grotesque homunculus is not a good long term plan for happiness. But I say nothing because I enjoy the game and the friendship. I’d have nobody but my dumb as a brick wife if not for my friends. I’m a very lonely man. I’m writing this while working in a dead end job where I’m under-utilised. Pretty depressing life I live.

>>97003890
The point isn't defending anyone.
The point is that you are too dumb to grasp a basic human behaviour:
>"I don't care about this guy"
>"Time to move on with my life"
That's it.
And you are seething that they "ghosted" you. They didn't. They just moved on, while you are throwing a temper tantrum to strangers.
So if anything, I am mocking you for your inability to handle such basic situation on any fucking level. "Oh no, someone abandoned the group or the whole group left me, boo-fucking-hoo! How could they not care about ime?"
Like a fucking child. Get a grip, you whinny faggot

>>97003655
>people tend to agree almost on 100% topics, most of the time is just a matter of (social engeneered) framing and labels that divide us
When was the last time you've talked with an actual human, face to face?
Hard mode: it wasn't your close relative

>>97004004
you can't even talk to immediate family about politics 80% of the time
even as a kid I noticed everyone sitting around merrily until politics came up, then everyone would start very passionately explaining why the others were actually retarded

>>97004055
So which one is it: people tend to agree almost on 100% topics, or they do not, you fucking retard?
>b-but politics is just one topic
Only if you are still that kid

>>97004004
I'm genuinely convinced 99% of political arguments can be defused using the right arguments, for example if your friends start having an heated and one sided discussion about idpol bullshit you just divert to economics pointing to the 2008 crisis and OWS as the reason of current polarization (which is true), basically it's just a matter of reframing the argument from horizontal "ingroup vs outgroup" to vertical "us (populace) vs tangible actors" without ideological obfuscation.
t. a guy that did this multiple times

>>97004107
Nigger that's another anon

>>97004107
nigger, I'm agreeing with you and stating that in the context of politics, which is the context of the greentext, your easy mode means nothing

>>97004137
Alright Socrates, tell me how you diffuse a boomer explaining how supporting Israel is his religious duty because they're the chosen people

>>97004160
Simple, i will point out that it's his (singular) duty in front of god to support israel, not the state (collective) because that's literally communism. I will entice him to take his cross and go to spontaneously organize something though his evangelical comunity.

>>97003910
Anybody who thinks that way is fucked ion the head.

>>97003921
>>97003955
I am not that person idiot. Each person has a moral obligation to consider how their actions affect others at all times, all people should be held to this standard. I 'grasp' that some people are morons who lack basic human decency, doesn't mean i'm going to imply that behavior is in any way acceptable. Having standards and morals isn't childish.

>>97004246
>still doesn't get it
>still throws a tantrum
... and then you wonder why people "ghost" you.

>>96993825
You really need a consistent day and time to play, it's not gonna work if you schedule it for a different one every week.

>>97004829
Wrong.
You need a PATTERN of days, not a consistent single day. So "this week we play Monday, next week we do Thursday, third week it's Tuesday and Friday", because it's the actual, workable timetable. And because it has more moving elements, it's actually easier to maintain than "same time next week", on the principle that every member of the group compromised to get this going

>>96994394
What game was this?

>>97004843
"No Game".
The famous game from all those make-belief stories

>"DM, how were we supposed to have won that fight? Literally what could we have done?"
>They just ran into the summoning chamber with like 3 hp each and no healing

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>>96993760
>>96993825
OP. If you host a session and *nobody* shows up, you find new players. That group is done, they dont respect you, they can find a new DM. It happened to me, and i didnt stick around for long.
If they dont appreciate your presence, give them the gift of your absence.

>>97004864
>I run a game for people
>I failed to make them grasp the rules of it
>Why people are so dumb?

>>96999727
Your need to insult everyone else in this thread just shows how insecure you are.

>>97004913
something something horses something something water

>>97004941
No, I need to insult every crying bitch that needs to tell their sob story about how their group fell apart.
Consult >>97004902
And consider this: you need to be an adult to use this place. No adult would be this incompetent

>>96994394
>>spend two weeks helping players draw up sheets
Waste of time, if it is something they don't want to spontaneously do by themselves holding their hand through the process won't change that

>and developing a world for them to explore
You got full retard in worldbuilding? Unless it's something you do for your own personal enjoyment i'll explain you something: no one gives a shit about your encyclopedic diarrhea. If you're just worldbuilding for game purposes it's better to just to vaguely outline the world and concentrate where the pc will have their adventure and then filling the blanks one step at time as needed.
Another important thing not to do is either shoving informations down the players throats or leaving the informations pending somewhere, like compiling setting notes in a pdf or a wiki, they won't going to read that shit because nobody likes homeworks. You just spoonfeed the specific informations at the moment it is required and in the most succint way.

>>nobody gives half a fuck about literally any of it
Yeah, you probably overwhelmed them with too much shit

>No more making characters for my players
Another big ass mistake. If they don't want to take time designing characters make them randomly generated in some way. If the player in question seems hesitant even in this case fucking boot him out.

>>97004971
>you need to be an adult to use this place
lmao

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>>97004988
See ya

>>97004913
You're right anon. I'll tell them in the future that, like video games, the level doesn't get easier if you play it wrong.

>>96993825
I don't believe you. Not being able to show up happens. Not letting the group know beforehand? Are you posting this from the past before phones existed?

>>96999586
don't listen to other anons. Of course that guy wasn't really motivated to play if it was him and him alone left

>>97004950
white woman, please, this is a traditional games board

>>97005686
>sees mention of animal
>instantly thinks of bestiality

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>spend two years in a dryspell or no games
>first game I'm invited to is a oneshot for a kiddie game where I don't even get to make my character, plus it was simply all random roll tables and asking what my contribution to the city we lived in was
>ends on a cliff hanger, no followup session ever
>second game I'm invited to is by a man who should've just written a novel and has no intentions on interacting with the players or having anything of substance for them to care about
>I'll be playing in that game once a week for the next year

>>97005765
I was referring to white women's obsessive over representation in equestrianism, you sick fuck

>>97005771
Nogames is better than bad games.

>>97005935
I had no idea how bad it was out there to find a decent GM. My last GM ended up crashing the plane into the god damn mountain and pissed off every single one of his players. Sadly we all disbanded and never played together again, something like two and a half years since then. I wish I could go back and somehow de-escalate what drove us all apart, because that was otherwise the best roleplaying I've ever experienced. But the fact so many bad GMs exist out there was something I just didn't conceive of being my waking nightmare. No improv skills, horrid writing, lack of control over pacing and absolutely no concern over players being ignored and sidelined. Those things don't even require a good GM so much as one that's paying attention and shows a modicum of consideration for their cast.

>>97004988
>>you need to be an adult to use this place
I mean, he's right, UnderageB& exists for a reason.

Although >>97004971 Not everyone is equally a grown ass adult with a stable life, stable cognition and psyche dude, I know personally I'm still reeling from trauma during my high school years, and I'm in my mid 30s. What I lived through has marked me both psychologically, cognitively but literally physically. I have some fucking awful physical reminders of the relentless physical bullying and abuse I got from my peers back then. I still have the scars from when they wrapped red-hot chains around my right arm. I'll never grow past this, I can't. I'm fucking damaged goods. I still have night terrors from what happened to me back then.

>>97005999
>I mean, he's right, UnderageB& exists for a reason
Yes but the rule has been universally flaunted for multiple decades to the point that it more or less doesn't actually exist outside of the complete idiots who openly say their age

>>97003248
Sounds like the game I'm on in. I specifically asked if they want a party face and DM said yeah that'd be great. Only thing is that I literally can't talk to anyone, every NPC is either scripted quest giver or a combat encounter that doesn't communicate and fights to the death.

>>97005999
>I mean, he's right
I mean, don't pretend you weren't on 4chinz at 14, surrounded by other 14 year olds, fucking m00t was underage when I got here

>>97006031
>the rule has been universally flaunted for multiple decades
This place barely exists two decades.
I saw the rule enforced last week on a guy that made only a suggestion of being a high schooler.
Stay fucked, kid.

>>97006101
Nigger, m00t is 37

>>97006111
Yes, and?
He made that rule by 2008, when he was 20 himself.
Fuck off back to school, kiddo

>>97005999
Nigga, you have actual problems.
Typical fa/tg/uy is just a manchild sperg or a kid in his late teens, asking for tips for his high school group.

>>97006159
and the rule is a fucking meme, most posters are teenagers
idk how mentally stunted you'd need to be to not notice you're conversing with kids daily

>>97006101
>This place barely exists two decades.
Yes multiple decades
>I saw the rule enforced last week on a guy that made only a suggestion of being a high schooler.
the aforementioned idiots
>Stay fucked, kid.
Haven't been underage for many years now but I sure as shit posted while I was underage and was never even under the threat of being banned

>>96998347
I have kids, I'd rather spend weeknights at home with them and spend weekends doing our own thing.

>>97005999
>>97006101
>>97006159
Are you aware you're on a website for cartoons, porn and cartoon porn?

>>97003926
That sucks anon I'm sorry. I have the same issue but it's not a wife it's a girlfriend who will probably dump me when finds out I'm a chud. I'm not even a stereotypical chud but it doesn't matter because anyone who isn't like them gets excluded from the group. Even my ex gf noticed it, she was mad they treated her as lesser cause she wasn't gay.

>>97006202
And that changes the fact it has a rule against underage b&... how?

>>97006186
>most posters are teenagers
Unfortunately, most posters are between their late 20s and early 30s. Barely any new blood joins for quite a while.
Which means way worse thing - you are thinking you are talking to kids, whereas you are dealing with manchildren.

>>97006219
>this website about things for children and things children seek out has an unenforceable rule with zero checks so the website isn't filled with kids because kids obey rules
???

>>97006226
on /tg/ maybe, globally the covid boom brought in shitloads of kids and changed the board traffic ratio significantly, we're back to /b/ being a top 3 board most days, and /a/ being /tv/ and fucking /sp/ tier, only the niche boards were spared because kids don't care about cooking and mecha

>>97005984
My last DM ghosted us. Leaving me to start my own group, with my own circle of close childhood friends as players. Feels good man.
Sadly those friends are retarded, but hey, I've had two absences in seven weekly sessions.

>>97005127
I houserule that in a particularly dangerous setting insight allows you to see how dangerous give or take a fight is. like a bad feeling, or just common sense from living in a dangerous area. Not everyone has insight of course but some people do and thats usualyl enough to make mother fuckers do a risk vs reward vs necessity decision.

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>>96993760
>players keep showing up trashed unable to play
>having to kick out players for this shit

the following happened to me this month
>player tells me that she is more interested in playing a video game than play
>thinks its some new jrpg or something
>its fucking Skyrim multiplayer
>hasn't done shit all day
>i made a fillable calender to avoid this exact situation
>didn't fill it out because in her own words "i have so much free time it doesn't matter!"
>instantly kick her from game because my feelings are hurt and i'm fucking PISSED OFF
>have a great session
>2 days later
>"WHY DID I GET KICKED I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING!"
>begs to be let back in
>i'm a spineless worm and cave
>next session is bad again
this shit makes me want to reroll on life

>>97006326
addendum the excuses for why she wasn't showing up wasn't told to me by her but it was fucking relayed to me by another player after she no showed and I asked him if he knew where she was and he went and found her and instead of coming to the game, or talking to me she said that. Apologized for bad communication and that I took it so badly. I'm getting mad again as I type this lol FUCK

>>97003655
I sort of do. I will bash the current govt and billionaires with them. It is crazy how much we have in common. I wish they'd just realize that but no, any real dissent from their worldview and you're done. You HAVE to believe in trannies.

I would have stood by my fellow chud but it was during the scamdemic and I didn't want to lose my TTRPG group because it was one of the only things I was looking forward to doing irl again.

>>96993760
>>no one shows up to the session
Happened to me once. I still do not talk to those people 10 years later.

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>>97006326
get cucked, scrub

>>97006270
Oddly enough, been there. I have some friends but they're not really ready for the crunchy simulators. I can't even keep one of them from flaking out because he's too scared to roleplay. We have a great time talking about world building though.

>>97006486
If/when my friends start losing interest in my campaign I'll either start a new one tailored to what they like rather than what I like, or cherrypick the ones that just plain like TTRPGs, and invite strangers until I've gathered four players. Shouldn't be too hard.

>>97005984
>improv skills: check
>writing skills: check
>control over pacing: debatable
>gives everyone a spotlight: check
>did a few months of GMing and now i never want to do it again: check
Where my fellow foreverplayers @?

>>97004981
>If you're just worldbuilding for game purposes it's better to just to vaguely outline the world and concentrate where the pc will have their adventure and then filling the blanks one step at time as needed
This is terrible advice btw

>>97004840
>when your DM is also a manager of a Dollar General

>>97001288
He was also the resident note taker until the final few sessions of that campaign, so by kicking out the cringe autist there was a bit of a setback.

>>97006742
Explain

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>>97000669
>me me me me fuck you (totally not a sociopath btw)
Behold, the zoomer in his natural state.

>>97003910
>you don't need an excuse if you're a nigger
FTFY

>>97004913
>I failed to make them grasp the rules of it
The GM is not a babysitter. If you can't be bothered to learn the rules, you should respect other people's time and tell them you're too busy sucking cock to attend.

My DM is currently going through this sad situation
>I'm the most normie coded of the group and as a result I have multiple friend circles
>Everyone else in my gaming group is not and they are their only friends
>DM is actively encouraging everyone to play or at least get together to be together
>Player 1 flakes every week, claims he wants to come but comes up with new excuses every week on why he can't come
>Player 2 states that he can only come every other week despite being unemployed.
>Player 3 comes and instantly falls asleep because he's short staffed at work and has to pull 6 twelve hours days every week. Sometimes he doesn't come because of mental health stuff.
>Player 4 is a veteran player and thinks things like planning, taking notes, and actually remembering things is below him
>Player 5 is terminally addicted to his phone and misremembers, forgets, or glazes over things and gets very pissy when razed ever so lightly for it
>I am player 6
My DM is trying desperately to keep everyone together and I just want to say to him it's not worth it, lets make a new group with people who want to play and aren't shitty. But I can't because these are the only friends he has and wants to hold onto them.

>>97006907
You don't want to focus on solely where you think the party will go because you never actually know. Just like it's easy to say "nobody cares about your encyclopedia", truth is you have no idea what your players will find interesting, and it's the GMs job to provide a believable world full of potential interests. Generally speaking there are only 2 instances where overprepping your world is detrimental to your campaign
>you're working on things that aren't player focused when there are player facing things you could be working on
>the things you're working on would take too long in-session to explain to your players or won't naturally come up

>Encounter 1
>Hey DM, can I, like, swing my axe wide enough to hit two enemies? Like, uh, a whirlwind attack?
>Uhh sure! But it's harder.
>Alright cool
>Hey DM, are there rafters in this room?
>Uhh Sure!
>Alright cool I climb up on them to hang out up there all encounter long

>Encounter 2
>I use my whirlwind move.
>Are there any rafters in this room?
"Reward player creativity" they said.

One that pisses me off in particular;
>Go to talk to NPC
>State my case clearly, and use logic and narrative elements that show I have been paying attention to the details the DM has been presenting throughout the game
>Lol roll persuasion
>Oops lol you nat 1ed, too bad.
I would genuinely rather a DM tell me the NPC isnt receptive to my argument. Like if youre just going to make me roll anyway why bother paying fucking attention.

>>97007262
Most groups end up something like this after years and years. People change, their interests change, but weekly games just keep coming. You're obviously going to find different interest levels, and it's okay for a group to lose and gain members. It's like a rose bush; gotta be watered, gotta be pruned.
Nothing lasts forever, and it's okay to just let people go when they're not working out. Sucks, but you don't need to like reality, you just have to face it.

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>>96993804
>>frogposter-lite thread
We can fix that.

>>96995359
I would try to avoid worrying; maybe ask them privately if everything is going alright, but sometimes it's easy to over worry about your performance and project that worry onto the players seemingly not being switched on. DMs are often their own biggest critic, but it's externalized onto your group's reactions

>>96995359
As a fellow autistic sometimes we can just be like this. The player might just genuinely treat your game as a chance to relax and turn their brain off, not in a negative or dismissive way either mind you.
As the other anon said, alot of times its shitty out of game stuff 100 times more often. See if they have anything gnawing at them and if they just need someone to talk to.

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>Be forever DM
>Finally get to be a player in a different game
>It's actually not as fun as I expected

Perhaps this a good thing, in it's way. It's a strange and vaguely disquieting feeling though

>Sit down to prepare for the session later that week
>Writers block
>Half-ass something last minute the day of
>Worry that my players aren't having fun the whole time
I hate being a GM.

>>97006978
>Butthurt faggot going mad over people not respecting his sorry ass

>>97006269
>globally the covid boom brought in shitloads of kids
Nigga, virtually all blue boards that aren't /a/, /v/, /tv/ and /vst/ are dying. That boom not only lasted less than a single quarter, it kickstarted the exodus of anons.

>>97007787
It's the DMs fault; your game's fun!

>>97007170
The GM IS a babysitter. That's literally all he has to do. And if you can't be arsed to explain the rules to an entire group of people who keep making the same mistake, you face a simple choice: either you explain the rules to them, or you face the consequences of not doing so.
But in the end, it's your fault you didn't fix an easy to solve problem and you have no right to complain about it - because the person to blame is (You).

>>97008049
nta, but I actually expect my players to be able to read without assistance. Playing with kindergarteners is fucking weird dude.

>>97009230
not him, but despite popular delusion, gms are generally such for one of two reasons
>can't play otherwise
>autistic worldbuilding
in either case, the gm's gonna be the one jumping through hoops when players encounter obstacles to playing, it is what it is

>>97001494
...because they never happen
;_;

>>97003374
What exactly are your beliefs that you feel would be so damaging?
Me personally, I don't give a fuck about Gaza and think that Israel bombing and annexing the strip after having dudes with machetes burn people alive at a music festival is pretty justified. If you say that out loud people will jump to say that murdering women and children is totally justified as long as you're being oppressed.

>>97007748
>>97007771
I don't get it with my regular gaming group, but I've been seeing it when running for a nearby tabletop club. It hurts a little more there because multiple groups run at once and I'll see players in those other games be hyper excited and engaged compared to mine. Hell, sometimes it'll be the case that a player who was super into a different DM's game last week is only mildly interested in mine the next week. A lot of it is probably insecurity but I can't help but wonder...

>>97010249
yeah, I used to hate jews but it's pretty crazy how khamas spit roasted those babies

>>97003374
The only opinion someone can have that will make me instantly hate them is being anti-LGBT because it's hating someone for an inherent trait and telling them to change it. A lot of trannies are cringe but GID is unfortunately something they have for life, and a gay can't magically like women. At least racists aren't telling blacks to stop being black.
But almost everything else I can agree to disagree on, especially for the sake of a TTRPG. I've played them with a wide gamut of political opinions and those opinions were not a source of issue for me.

>>97011339
I don't hate gays for being gay I hate when they blame others for their problems or promote their identity. But honestly I just want to call people fags and have it not be such a huge deal. At least with my friends or significant other. I didn't become anti LGBT until they started shoehorning refer to that shit into DnD.

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>>97006211
>they treated her as lesser cause she wasn't gay.
It's just so weird. Most people are straight. For a while people would say they're non binary or gender queer or whatever the fuck for diversity points. I've considered pretending to be bi or something because then I know it would be easier to find a new job. I'd tick their quota boxes.

It's clear most people are turning away from pretending to be non binary or whatever the fuck. It was just a fad/social contagion.

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>>96993825
Literally just had something like this happen last Friday with MagicTG.

>someone else in group chat asks when's next game
>only I respond giving a time, nobody else says anything for 2 days
>finally another friend says "sorry was at cabin I can do such and such"
>finally get the last two to answer
>literally 4 days of back and forth negotiation between the 5 of us
>one of these fuckers is a student and the other is unemployed and only me and the student wheel women so there's literally no reason why the other 3 can't commit
>everyone finally says "Yep Friday at 7!"
>me@3pm Friday: "If you guys want to play at my restaurant we can eat there first, or I can bring some stuff home/wherever we're playing"
>4pm no replies
>5pm seen seen seen no replies
>5:30 "Last call for food otherwise I'm gonna head home and get ready."
>6pm no replies
>give up at 6:30 and just go on a date
>next day "Shit I was so hungover I couldn't come." "Shit I was working late." "Shit this." "Shit that."

No fucking respect for my time. They could've just said "Hey not feeling it tonight sorry for last minute cancellation". Even the faggot that asked when the next game is couldn't be bothered to reply and put pressure on the others. And this is far from the first time this has happened.

The most ridiculous part is these faggots are ADDICTED to buying cards, they're constantly building new decks and discussing strategies in group and sending videos of their new cards/pack cracks. Thankfully I didn't spend more than a few hundred on these cards and I already got 20-30 game nights out of them so if we never play again I don't have to pull my hair out about blowing so much money on it (one of my friends has bought a box every release since 2016ish and gets at least 2-4 packs a week on top of buying singles, easily spent multiple thousands of dollars on the game and he's the flakiest of all). I don't understand these people.

>>96993825
>>"I'm free Saturday at 1:30, if that works for everyone."
>>Whole party gives it a thumbs up
>>Day of, nobody shows up
Could it be that they are just social idiots and read that as "He said he's free on Saturday, but he never actually confirmed that we're going to go ahead with it"?
In which case, it would've needed to look something like this:
>"I'm free Saturday at 1:30, if that works for everyone."
>Whole party gives it a thumbs up
>"Great, see you guys then!"

Or something like that.. Speaking from experience here, btw. Some people are just idiots, but they don't mean anything bad by it.

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>>97007791
picrel, except
>Sit down to prepare for the session later that week
>Finish
>Worry that my players aren't having fun the whole time

>>97009230
>Players have problems
>Problems that I identified
>But I'm not going to help them solve them
>Instead, I will get frustrated at the mistakes they make
... you were saying something about being a kindergartener?

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>>96993760
I dont think I'll ever have the opportunity to play a Metamorph from Splicers, either in a splicer campaign or porting him to another palladium setting.

>Been playing with the same group for almost 10 years
>Life happens and some go live in other cities, others get jobs with terrible working hours
>We keep playing online even if it's not the same thing
>This summer we pause all RPGs cause two of them need to go job hunting
>It's been months and none of them is available for gaming again
>Last Cthulhu campaign was a slog cause we could play once a month after painfully sticking their schedules together
Is it over, bros?

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>play with a genuinely nice GM, very understanding and wants the whole journey thing to happen as much as me
>player 1 and 2 are on their phone all the time during any perceived downtime (between turns etc)
>3rd player is turbosweaty powergamer being very vocal about how strong his character is (guide andy)
>4th player is a social reject beyond all help, wants to play a loli vampire and has stated he would buy feet pics of DM's sister (player 2)
>dm gets turned off dming so badly he just quits entirely, no future campaigns

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>Having a baby soon
>Wife won't let me play games until further notice when baby is born
>Have to quit my games
>tfw I'm goona be no-games soon

>>97005771
You aren't obligated to keep showing up to a game you aren't enjoying.

>>97013060
Letting your woman have control over you is a turn off to them, if she isn't fucking other dudes already it's just a matter of time.

>>97013132
You've never had a long term relationship and it shows

>>97004004
Last week. IRL people don't talk about politics and tend to gracefully dodge topics that will cause excess strife for the sake of keeping a group together. My group is far from an echo chamber too I don't learn much from hanging around people that agree with me on everything.

>>97013060
Raising a kid and making sure she won't go post partum schizo will leave you too tired for gaming anyway.

>>97011588
>lurking for 3 straight days shutting down discussion by telling every poster everyone hates them and its all their fault
go get treated for autism nigga

>>97013060
My wife gave me attitude when I started up a new game after 8 months. I basically told her I was doing it or I’d be miserable. Give it time, if she’s not a horrible cunt she’ll understand.

>>97013449
Other men have long term relationships without being castrated, it's a you problem.

>>96993760
>join a game
>make a character
>like the character
>write an extensive backstory for the character
>how they got there, what they like, who their enemies are
>Three sessions in
>GM cancels the game
Every fucking time

>>97013944
projecting isn't healthy, anon.

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>>97013979
>Join game
>Make a character
>Write backstory; how they got there, what they like
>Everyone else is either playing Powergame McMunchkin or Teehee Macaroni the Penis Wizard

>>97011468
MTG is the death knell of a group. Once that starts up its guaranteed that every other game will phase out and then it's just radio static afterwards

>>97013944
Marriage should be a 50/50 power balance, a wife isn't a child, but she shouldn't be bitching around anon either. Women do not actually like being controlled outside of BDSM sex shit, and if you try they'll either leave you or call you out for abusing them. That's how I know you've never been in a marriage or serious relationship long term.
>>97014131
Happened to my games several times

>GM cancels the night before because of a surprise meeting he got called into
>for the group he volunteers for to take the word of Jesus to the county jail
:/

>>97014131
I don’t know why powergame munchkins dont just become DMs. I know a couple of them. They clearly have the know-how about the limitations the game has and how to break it, why not use that to make a great campaign?

>>97014148
Kek true
>had a group that played warhammer
>they wanted to get into magic
>we started playing magic
>I move for work, still visit sometimes
>they only play basic bitch board games now

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>>97004913
Why are ttrpg players the most retarded people in the hobby sphere? Even board game normies are expected to know how the game works

>>97007429
Kek this always gets me, players just stop trying after a few sessions and I'm not sure why

>>97014671
>I will persistently keep missing the point
>This will prove them!

>>97013979
I have a session 0 today with a guy who has cancelled his last 3 campaigns after a few sessions. I'm just making a lizard that likes to kill people

>>97014519
It dispels the illusion that they are conquering a system and shows them all they are doing is stressing out their poor GM. Some come from the experience changed, others just go back to playing and try to forget the experience.

>>97014332
>Marriage should be a 50/50 power balance
stopped reading, maybe look at divorce rates relative to gender equality

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>>96993760
My friend's quitting TCGs. I have been playing games with him since the dawn of covid. He won't even listen to suggestions on what board games or non collectible ones he could still enjoy. Unfortunately he says he wants to wash his hands of all card games.

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>>96998611
You gotta be lucky. I got new players hooked into RPGs by starting with harnmaster. I can literally have them play anything I want now. My power is unlimited

>>97014519
A lot of rules autists are uncreative people and can't create anything worthwhile outside the framework of an existing ruleset.
>t. rules autist

>>97014569
>a caller and an MC who both want to play multiple characters at once
I truly am blessed wow

>>97014803
Good.
Card games suck ass

>>97014569
At what point does being a "Main Character" becomes Main Character Syndrome?

>>97014803
Good for him. Card games are generally pretty silly and mostly just so "fun" because of the dopamine hits. Anything is a better use of one's time than that. Even if we just stick to nerd hobbies: if you play TTRPGs for five years, you (potentially) have a bunch of fun memories and maybe even stories. With card games all the memories you'll have are "I played game X a lot"

What does he want to do instead?

>>97014793
You will never have a wife

>>97014131
The only time that doesn't happen to me is when i join a game as a late addition after someone quit. Even then i know my time in the game will be limited given how long it was going before i came in.

>>97015232
Its a thin line, but a sharp one.
Tp use my game as an example, one of my players has sort of blossomed into the main character because how she has involved herself with certain narrative elements.
However, she's also a very selfless player, and makes sure that the party as a whole is in the spotlight together alongside her.
Main Character Syndrome is much more ME!ME!ME!
Nobody else, their stories, their feelings, anything, matter as long as you and your character get what they want.

Frodo Baggins is the main character of LOTR, but his goals and interactions with the fellowship never diminish or try to overshadow the fellowship as a whole.
MCS would be more... Harry Potter? Maybe? Where everyone exists to just wank off one character and their desires.

Frodo exists in the world, but the world does not feel like ot revolves around him.

>>97014793
Fine, then do this:
>Be the sole supporter of the family
>Provide a household, too
>Never complain about being leached, since you actually wanted this
You don't want equality? You want a trad family? Here it comes, you worthless waste of oxygen, in full glory.
Oh, right, you can't fucking afford that. Then maybe shut your incel mouth and go hang yourself already.

>>97016895
kek gotta love the mutt projection
>p-people don't own houses
lmao

>>97016895
>first strike, protection from black

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>>97016895
>be me
>exchange money for a house
It's literally that easy.

>>97016895
That's literally what men want, thoughbeit

>>97016895
>I am superior because I'm poor
what did xir mean by this

>>97016895
>immediately pissed
lole

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>one player stopped being part of the equation when I realized he can never be counted to show up for anything
>another stopped playing because he'd rather play a comedy campaign that allows alcohol at the table
>only two players left are my brothers
>want to make new campaign in new setting
>brothers want me to continue campaign

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>>97017101
>>another stopped playing because he'd rather play a comedy campaign that allows alcohol at the table
Ya know, as someone who likes to have a drink and a bit of pot at the table, I really can't imagine what kind of asshole would need, or want, to get so shitfaced at a table youre an active fucking nuisance.
Me and my group are all in our 30s. We're mature enough to know how to imbibe responsibly. Even me, because the weed helps my shitty social anxiety.
"Comedy campaign that allows alcohol" sounds like someone wants an excuse to do shitty standup whilst pretending to be an elf.

>>97017101
>I can't find a replacement player
>I can't find a replacement player
>I can't find a replacement player
>I can't find a replacement player
Sound like a lot of (You) problems

>>97017101
>>97018072
I wanna know what kind of asshole GM tells his buddies "no alcohol at the table". Sounds like a miserable cunt if you ask me.

>>97018948
My first GM had to make a rule not to get more fucked up than you can handle because we had 2 people get blackout drunk and 2 greened out.

>>97018948
Drunkards like you who can't limit themselves force the no alcohol rule

>>96993760
>Wearing a 1809 pattern French uniform in white because nobody told you tha you'd be reenacting Quatre Bras
>Grognard friend dies of cancer due to radioisotope in the chess clock you use
>Addiction to tufts

We've all been there

>>97018948
I'm considering it. Only one person at my table drinks, and he can't pace himself. So he's always pretty drunk by the end of the session. I told them all "One or two beers" but he's disregarded that.. If him being drunk ever becomes a problem, or I get a single complaint about it, I'll forbid it entirely or start enforcing a One Unit limit.

>>97019104
>t. puritan fuckwit

>>97019028
>blows weed smoke in your face
Jokes on you fag, im a foreverGM

>computer broke
>all my notes are on there
>no backup
>replacement part is going to take ages
>running out of playable material soon
>got something very big and unavoidable coming up that I simply can't improvise or re-do

Shit sucks, I want to run high quality and prepared games and I can't provide that.

>>96993993
>I have a whole town planned with NPCs and quests that tie into each other and hooks for the motivations of their characters, so surely there's no way they'll just shyly walk past all of that and- yeah they're ignoring everything to stare at a rock until I have an NPC walk over and tardwrangle them back on track again

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>>96993760
>have any NPC ever tell the PCs anything, even if it's Evil McRapekill or Bob the hobo who doesn't know shit about anything
>players blindly take it as word of god directly bestowed upon them by the GM and refuse to explore further

>>97020366
Surely that must bite them in the ass rather quickly right? Seeing as they don't learn from it, do they at least roll with it?

>>97020377
They tend to roll with whatever happens because I'll just improv the consequences, but it's never as rewarding as if they had explored more and made some informed decisions. I've tried to tell them that they don't always have to follow the first thread they stumble upon and that they might be missing out on some cool rewards, but they keep doing it.
Curse of having shy players who are okay with just following wherever the game takes them instead of using their agency.

>>97020488
Are you still having fun running the campaign? If so, guess thats the lot you're stuck with then.

From my experience most players don't really have all that much agency and are quite content to do whatever they're told. They still want to be there otherwise they'd stop showing up right.

Maybe take your most proactive player of the bunch aside and just bluntly ask them to call the shots and herd the group.

>>97020510
It can be pretty exhausting having to run things so linearly when ideally the players would be in control of the action, but it is in the job description to suffer so the players can have fun, which they seem to be having at least. My mindset is that I just need to be hooking them in better if I want them to put more into it.

>>97020543
You could give them 3 goals that need tending to at the same time and design that in such a way that all 3 of them are in different directions, all are on a timer (implied or straight up told they have 48 hours to deal with it) and then setting it up in such a way they always fail one of the three no matter what, and make it very tight to complete two of these goals. The consequences of failing any of these should be pretty big and equally bad for all three things.

Not sure if you can fit that into your game, but its a good way to give them a kick in the ass and start thinking for themselves.

>>97020575
Worth trying.

>>97001208
>lowborn
>niggers

So you ARE friendless? I'd say it's okay, but you're a low-IQ subhuman. Kys.

>>97011339
Nobody hates faggots for being faggots. People hate faggots because they behave like faggots and try to convince normal people that their faggotry is acceptable. Faggotry is a mental illness and should be treated as such - we should ideally be looking for a cure, but we should also make it so that faggots can live among us without them unduly inconveniencing us. They have the right to exist, but they don't have the right to be in-your-face about their faggotry.

>>97013060
Your wife is shit. My best friend had a kid and both he and his wife make it to sessions regularly.

>>97020251
if the harddrive wasnt what broke then you can just take it out and plug it into another pc anon

>>97020679
I'm aware, I'm in a bit of a complicated logistical situation that makes that very impractical. Honestly I'm just kicking myself that I didn't make a backup of my notes and will set it up as soon as I've got everything in place again.

The thread did have me thinking on how I could manage the next few games and I think I've found a pretty satisfactory way to add in another game or two worth of things to do without it feeling like filler.

>>97018948
Someone who doesn't want one person getting shitfaced and disruptive to the 5 other people at the table, you useless alcoholic.

>>97020636
>triple replying days later
I don’t want you faggot go be queer somewhere else

>>96995887
This is either loss or fellatio.

>>97018948
Here's a story from the opposite side of the spectrum:
>Joined a new group with a DM who is weed dealer
>He encouraged smoking at the table, I did not partake because I want a clear head when I game
>He has an unusually high tolerance for weed
>Everyone else gets baked out of their mind
>Once the group is high the DM would browbeat and bully his into doing what he thought they should do
Quit that group immediately but not after buying an ounce.

>>96993760
>wife's family gets into critical role
>wants to play their own game
>offer to DM
>goes ok for 4 or so sessions
>sister in-law says she wants to DM a session
>I coach her and roll up a temporary character
>it goes so bad that the campaign died immediately
>she still blames me for giving her bad advice despite basically nuking our game from orbit

>>97020706
>posts like a miserable cunt
So i nailed it?

>>97020667
>Nobody hates faggots for being faggots. People hate faggots because they behave like faggots
Made me kek

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>>97020366
To play devils advocate, while I know this is frustrating, understand that alot of players have the understandable mindset of
"If this is being told to me because it's important."

When you watch a well made movie or read a well written book, you quickly realize that everything serves a function and has a place. There are deliberate decisions made by the directors/authors to express something to the viewer. Its supposed to make you pay attention.

In that same vein, you, as the GM, even when youre playing Drunk Hobo Bob, are the archon of truth. If you say something or express a piece of information, its more often than not worth taking note and listening to, "because why would you be saying it otherwise?"

I don't want to go as far as saying you should never lie or misdirect your players, but yeah in a way, because an NPC is a mouthpiece for the GM, and the GM is god of the realm, alot of players take it as truth, so you need to be mindful of that.

I was told this morning I have degenerative arthritis in my wrists, and potentially my hips and some other kind of tissue-issue in my heels. I am 21 years old, and though I'm not in shape, I haven't extensively abused my body, and certainly not my wrists.
I already suck at miniature painting, and knowing the pain will only get worse and my range of motion more limited kind of sucks. I also was going to start bass lessons next Monday (though I'm gonna give em a try nonetheless, no reason to preemptively drop out of life).
its not a death sentence and certainly not as bad as other forms of chronic pain but it still kinda sucks.

>>97022335
and I say this not to boo-hoo without asking for questions, but I know we've got a few older folks on this board- if any of you have arthritis, how do you deal with it in the hobby? painting, kit bashing, scratchbuilding in particular.

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>>97022385
Not trying to sound smug but have you done any research through youtube and stuff?
I know lots of people make content for stuff like that for all sorts of hobbies; gaming, painting, cooking, etc.
Im sure there has to be stuff for arthritis and painting minis.

>>97022404
yeah I saw some stuff on reddit about how to alleviate it a bit, weighted painting stands, triangular brushes. haven't checked YouTube yet

>>97020699
One of my GM's still uses physical notes and I always thought it was a silly thing to do until I had the same problem you have. I still don't do it because of the downsides but I see why he does.

>>97025192
The GM in my game where I play in does a lot of his notes on paper as well. That just wouldn´t work for me outside of random session notes.

Ah well, at least the group isn´t difficult and will defo continue playing once the situation is resolved. I feel like I got pretty lucky with the groups I play with compared to many others in this thread.

>>97015232
They're the same thing. Main Characters are distinct from Callers in how they're self-centered. Whether it becomes a problem just depends on the context of what group they're in and how well their impulses play with everyone else's tolerances and desires.

I'm in a game right now and no one wants to play, they just want to talk petty politics and food like holy fuck I'm trying to steer the DM into running his game but even he keeps talking about food.

>>97030202
Delicious Dungeon and its consequences yadda yadda yadda.

>>97030278
It's been half an hour and we haven't advanced or discussed anything at all, game night is turning into hang out night