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>>97004626
>troyxslop to start the thread
why are you doing this
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>>97004626
theres literally OC in the last thread you useless wretch, why isnt it the OP?
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>>97004626
Your choice for the Transposition option ?
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>>97004158
behold! the pocket healslut build 2.0

>RACE: bipedal
did you know that in terms of healslut breeding, bipedals are the most compatible for most adventurer races?

>STRENGTHS: enduring, tough, attuned, mystical, surge (magical), resistant, cantrip
great magic prowess with resistance to diseases and a tough yet soft body so I can be used roughly and for a long time

>WEAKNESS: weak, short, hungry, phobia (being alone), delicate back
"oh no I'm to small and weak to reject your advanced teehee"

>GEAR: bell, coin pouch

>CLASS: sanctifier
>congregation: intermediate
>blessing: master
>wrath: advanced
>steed: intermediate
I am but a faithful little lamb of the goddess of sex and love

>BACKGROUND: rural (first aid)
>SKILLS: first aid, maintenance, dungeon cooking, curse breaking
your curse is quite dire, to break it you must eat this warm meal and empty your load inside me

>TRAITS:
>skilled
>fast metabolism
>demolisher
>heavy sleeper
>turn the other cheek
>overcame evil
I was once a sad prostitute back in my rural town until I saw the light and realized sex is meant to be shared freely to form stronger connections and not something another must purchase

>ITEM: unique key
>FACTION: fellowship of the fearless
>DUNGEON: the spire
this is were my skills will be needed the most

>COMPANIONS:
>Lady Myserix Honeyglow the fourth (abjurer)
the brains of the team, she also prevents enemy spells and protects our team from harm

>Thorik Hammerbeard (monk)
our main tank and the one with rune and survival knowledge

>Tlaco the Tall (warden)
the leader with a mix of martial and magic to fit into any role needed at the moment

>Grimir Broadhoof (warrior)
second frontline and expert in dungeon stuff, also there is no cock like horse cock

I'm pretty confident in this team, our classes and skills are well balanced so every role we need is fulfilled.
Also the only 2 potential members who have the locksmith skill are locked behind a specific faction REEEEEEEE
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>>97004675
now post interactions
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>>97004626
Why do you hate OC so much Threadfaggot?
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>>97004675
>sissies are back
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>>97004681
>Yes. As said earlier, a fated success is worth nothing to me. In fact it has negative value - no self-actualization can be derived from something so divorced from my own efforts.
Then why spawn in with any powers at all then? Why don't you just earn your powers like everyone else does? Like you said "no self-actualization can be derived from something so divorced from my own efforts."
>Then I die again. That's the game. Who knows, we might get reincarnated again. I don't need my adventure to go on forever to have meaning.
You might be reincarnated again, but why take the chance? I don't engage in RNG concerning my life.
>That's the part where I become the old legend now living in a remote village. Probably take up blacksmithing while forming the new generation as an instructor. How am I suppose to die surrounded by friends and family if I'm immortal? Living the same story forever sounds incredibly horrifying.
There is more to life than just adventuring. There is so much to live for and so many things to enjoy, but so little time to enjoy it. Like if I became immortal I would spend lifetimes worth of times to enjoy and master a single skill like singing and then move on to another skill and then go on and on until I have lived and experienced everything life has to offer. It would be a never ending quest of pleasure and perfection. Nothing prevents me from becoming an adventure instructor and guiding the next generation. I would want to do that until I become the perfect instructior and then I would want to move on, onto somehting else. While you would only get to experience such a minuscule part of what I would get to enjoy.
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>>97004675
Imagine becoming female without immortality. Let's say you spawn in at 15 years, then you have about 10 years where you are pretty and cute. After that, you're just an old unfuckable hag.
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OC from last thread.
No one else will do it, so the burden falls to me.
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>>97004753
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>>97004749
Reminder that this CYOA has 1 class and 14 immortalityless trap classes
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>>97004724
>Then why spawn in with any powers at all then?
I do tend to go in without powers, or at least scale myself with a native. I'd hate to steamroll someone who trained his whole life because I picked Martial Instinct or whatever. What kind of win is this? The concept of it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
>You might be reincarnated again, but why take the chance?
So you never try things unless you have 100% chance it works? No "Alright, I'll go to the bar this time", no "I'll move to chase my dreams this year" no impulsive choices following your guts? I'd say that's closer to leaps of faith than RNG. You'll never know what you're capable of without trying it first, and your tactic cut off more paths than mine.
>Like if I became immortal I would spend lifetimes worth of times to enjoy and master a single skill like singing and then move on to another skill and then go on and on until I have lived and experienced everything life has to offer. It would be a never ending quest of pleasure and perfection.
Meh.
There is always a next dream, a next wish. You can live until the heat death of the universe without grasping perfection - your subjective definition will change across the years too. Besides, if I really can do ANYTHING, then what's the point of doing it? Saving the orphan, killing the orphan, transforming the orphan into a pretzel - there is no longer any meaning to the choices since I know I'll get to pick something else next time.
M'yes, I think that's my core issue with your rationale. It takes away choices, in a sense.
>While you would only get to experience such a minuscule part of what I would get to enjoy.
We don't need to experience "as much" or "less" than the next person though. It's kinda sad you need infinite time to have meaning.
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>>97004763
Reminder to kill yourself.
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>>97004799
He's a lost cause. Give up.
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>>97004749
>Body Type:
Bipedal
>Racial Strengths:
Strong
Enduring
Tough
Attuned
Dark Vision
Natural Weapons
Resistant
>Racial Weaknesses:
Mundane
Short
Dulled Senses (Smell)
Hungry
Obsession (Challenge)
>Starting Gear:
Coin Pouch x2
>Class:
Arsenal
>Specializations:
Masochism (Master)
Brute (Advanced)
Metamorphosis (Basic)
Night Beast (Basic)
>Abilities:
Strength From Agony
Take The Pain
Vengeful Growth
Retaliatory Blood
Brutish Might
Appendages
Mutated Hide
Demonic Form
Beast Form
>Background:
Dungeon Tribe
>Skills:
Dungeon Cooking
Monster Knowledge
Survival
>Traits:
Nasty Disposition
Dungeon Gourmand
Thrill-Seeker
Specialized
Old-Fashioned (Loincloth at most)
Clear Mind
Fate Touched (Old-Fashioned)
>Item:
Rabbit’s Foot
>Faction:
The Fellowship of the Fearless
>Dungeon:
The Spire
>Companions:
Hiyori
Drezsha
Tlaco
Svafa

I am one of the remnants of a tribe affected by a magical disaster generations in the past, that over time mutated us into highly powerful and resistant forms. Resultantly our stature diminished and our hunger grew, as our bodies required more upkeep to resist the cursed and hostile environment, though we integrated the negative mana in kind, giving us access to abilities unnatural to others. I revel in challenge and suffering, a faint echo of that original disaster that first forced us to adapt and change. My cursed existence lets me mutate at will into a horrifically fused demonic and vampiric form, while channeling my and my party’s suffering to improve my abilities and physical form, eventually rivalling the stature of my tribe’s original visage. Additionally, any who wishes to attack my mind has to fight against the malevolent magic that permeates my body; and while that puts a strain on my body, the resultant bleeding forms retaliatory slimes all the same, to attack any who try to defile my sanctity of mind.
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>>97004808
Hailing from a magical wasteland, I have been taught well both how to survive and how to glean decent meals from even the most barren surrounds, and I possess a near encyclopedic knowledge of monster traits and tendencies from the my home’s unfortunate fauna and flora that mutated similarly, if more chaotically, than we did. Forever seeking greater challenges as I do, it was the natural choice to join the Fearless in taking on the Spire. Among my companions, I find the greatest kinship with Hiyori, for she pursues challenge with a similar fervor, even if it is for entertainment rather than my primal need to improve myself.
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>>97004797
Wait wasn't this CYOA multiplayer? How does it work if everyone takes the same companions?
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>>97004834
I'm pretty sure people were just treating it as multiplayer because there weren't companions.
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>>97004807
Eh, at least his core argument makes sense despite the undercurrent of thanatophobia. Of course you'd choose to play more five more minutes outside with your friends. Of course you don't want to face the cessation of your being. Of course you want to experience too many things for your single measly lifetime.
Almost all of us flirted with that logic at least once.
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>>97004877
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>>97004763
Is there any proof vampires are immortals?
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>>97004799
>I do tend to go in without powers
So you don't pick a single thing in a CYOA? You only use the settings in CYOAs and nothing else? Like, if you don't, then that would be unfair to everyone else who had to work for their skills, items, powers, etc. In other words, you are the ideal person according to 0^0
>So you never try things unless you have 100% chance it works?
If my life is on the line, hell no, I don't. If my life is not on the line, then faligure is to be expected before mastery is achieved. Success will teach you nothing, but failure will always make you better if you analyze your mistakes.
>There is always a next dream, a next wish. You can live until the heat death of the universe without grasping perfection - your subjective definition will change across the years too.
Yes, that is what makes life beautiful. There are endless things you could achieve and endless experiences to have.
>Besides, if I really can do ANYTHING, then what's the point of doing it? Saving the orphan, killing the orphan, transforming the orphan into a pretzel - there is no longer any meaning to the choices since I know I'll get to pick something else next time.
In short, the meaning of life is whatever you make of it. If you don't have something to live for life will seem pointless to you. But if you have something to live for, then your actions will reflect that purpose. You are also somewhat of a hypocrite; you act like my choices do not matter because I am immortal. Yet you count on getting another life after already being reincarnated once and persumably expect to be reincarnated again and again. If that were the case, I would say my choices matter more because my choices are tied to a single, long, immortal life. Your actions mean less because you have multiple lives which each can be lived however you want. If I do cruel and evil things, that will ruin my reputation, while you could just live as a lawless bandit and then die to escape the consequences.
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>>97004942
He's a lost cause. Give up.
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>>97004932
Do you assume dragons cannot breathe fire if it is not explicitly stated in a CYOA?
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>>97004973
Correct, and if the CYOA says your mommy/mentor/sire/waifu will protect you and keep you safe, nothing could ever happen that contradicts that statement.
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>>97004973
Anon, vampires are infinitely varied, these ones for example have a cursed disease. Same for dragons, there are tons unable to breath fire.
Now I'm remembering the wave of shitposting when EA said you had to sleep even if you became undead, without sleepless.
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>>97004804
I don't think so. That seems to be your fantasy, since you are so obsessed with being able to die
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>>97005000
This post has reached levels of retardation I didn't think were possible.
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>>97005027
What do you expect from someone who has succumbed to old age addling his brain?

If they CYOA doesn't explicitly say that gravity exists you might very well float into space.
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>>97004942
>Like, if you don't, then that would be unfair to everyone else who had to work for their skills, items, powers, etc.
It's a matter of scale. Again, there is a difference between having pocket money and styling over Vader.
>Success will teach you nothing, but failure will always make you better if you analyze your mistakes.
Agreed.
...which makes it all the more weird to me you go with the predestined successes.
>Yes, that is what makes life beautiful. There are endless things you could achieve and endless experiences to have.
Not really. Life ends unless you're a monocellular organism. Making choices that pertain to you despite the transient existence and unknown expiration date was always the point. Then again, it's just a different outlook, which brings us to -
>In short, the meaning of life is whatever you make of it.
I don't think there is a right opinion to be found here, but I'm entertained.
>You are also somewhat of a hypocrite; you act like my choices do not matter because I am immortal. Yet you count on getting another life after already being reincarnated once and persumably expect to be reincarnated again and again. [...] If I do cruel and evil things, that will ruin my reputation, while you could just live as a lawless bandit and then die to escape the consequences.
Nah, it's a possibility, that's all. Being reincarnated ad eternam is spirital immortality and I'd refuse him for the same reasoning. Going to oblivion past the second one is fine.
>If that were the case, I would say my choices matter more because my choices are tied to a single, long, immortal life. Your actions mean less because you have multiple lives which each can be lived however you want.
That's assuming I'm a sociopathic guy looking to escape my situation over and over again. I'd still feel guilt, regret and everything else though.
Assuming I get only a few lives. With infinite retries, I'll get to the sanity slippage too eventually.
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>>97005027
>>97005038
Entropist was a better cyoa than anything you've ever made.
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>>97004763
Skill issue, just choose an immortal race
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What is the cyoag consensus on the best of the four classical elements?
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>>97005055
Ok and? Doesn't change how retarded you are. Dragons have fire breath, if they don't they have another element, and if they don't have even that then they are not dragons. Entropist is a really good cyoa, but that doesn't change the fact the things the author said afterwards are retarded and make no sense, and also contraddict things in the cyoa itself as well as things he said himself before.
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>>97005027
Just saying the truth,vampires not being undead makes it dubious they have all common characteristic (considering normal powers and weaknesses come from the power section and the trait section).
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>>97005071
Depends on what you want to do and how they're used in the cyoa, if you just control the element it's air for fighting, earth for building.
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>>97005065
There are none since there is no immortality in the racial strengths section
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Full CYOA: https://imgchest.com/p/xny8eknv5yb
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>>97005071
Depends how far you take it. If they also include derivate or evolved elements then air, usually that turns into lighting. Otherwise earth is probably more practical.
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>>97005071
Earth is the best element in most situations simply because it involves minerals and metals. Techfriends stay winning.
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I am sure to beat the other anons in Conquest because my speed is superior
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>>97005071
But at the same time there is nothing stating that the races are mortal so if we are assuming a vampire is immortal by default than the same assumption can be made for a elf, demon or some other magical race
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PreservationGODS rise up.
Freedomcucks need to die.
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>>97005071
Water is best because you can manipulate humans as they are made off 60% water
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>>97005105
cringe
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>>97005105
holy kino
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>>97005071
The one with immortality.
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>>97005071
Fire, it has the best aesthetic.
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>>97005126
Ordercel falseflag
Do not engage
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>>97005156
by themselves either none or all, depends on how far you take them
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>>97005156
Here you go anon
This one makes you immortal for free
https://imgchest.com/p/lqye3m9x4dn
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We are all strugglers
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>>97005105
I like this one. Even the cringe descriptions of sex make me chuckle.
Are the Chapters a new addition of this version? It's good to see how the Church function, but I don't recall that in previous section.
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We are all whiners.
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We are all mortal.
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>>97004749
Jolly Monk

>Race
Bipedal

>Racial Strenths
Strong
Enduring
Agile
Extra Arms
Tall
Prehensile Tail
Sharp Senses (sight)
Surge (physical)
Dark Vision

>Racial Weaknesses
Frail
Mundane
Disrupted
Restricted Diet (Carnivore)
Allergic (peanuts)
Slow Healer
Obsessive (Religion-Not Buddhism)

>Starting Gear
Coin Pouch x2

>Class
Monk
Steelflesh: Master
Healing Hands: Intermediate
Spirit Warriors: Intermediate
Drunken Mastery: Advanced

>Background
City

>Skills
Moral Boosting
Negotiation
Dungeon Lore

>Traits
Vegetarian
Swift foot
Self-Control
Gentle Soul
Demolisher
Specialized
Thorough Digestion
Fast Metabolism

>Item
Rabbit’s Foot

>Faction
The Fellowship of the Fearless

>Dungeon
The Spire

>Companions
Tessa Redmane
Svafa Geirsdottir
Lady Myserix Honeyglow th Forth
Vorpal the Nightblade

So big improvements on Monk from last version (embers are huge btw), although I can’t imagine going for a monk build without master Steel Flesh. Speaking of Steal Flesh, I am making a few assumptions on how it works, one being that my base durability doesn’t matter (hence taking Frail) and that crucially the bonus strength and durability is based on nutritional needs OR poison resistance, not both (I wouldn’t take fast metabolism otherwise). I didn’t plan on it going in but monk has great social talents with the drunken aura and the gentle soul trait, so I speced my skills to benefit. So definitely a jolly monk the livens the mood and seeks enlightenment, less of a self-insert than I planned but still fun.
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>>97005204
>>97005218
Mortal struggler using >>97004749
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>>97005215
Immortal whiner using >>97005198
who wins?
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>>97005231
Me, I'd win.
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>>97005231
Immortal guy won't die so he wins.
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>>97005253
>trapped in tok dungeon forever
epic win
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>>97005289
>Immortality
>stuck as Tok's fuckdoll forever
Would you take the deal?
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>>97005303
Hell yes
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>>97004749
>Race:
Winged
>Strengths:
Agile
Attuned
Mystical
Sharp Senses (Vision)
Dark Vision
Surge (Magic)
Cantrip (Distant Spell)
>Weaknesses:
Weak
Short
Slow Healer
Allergic (Rice)
Dulled Senses (Smell)
Restricted Diet (Carinvore)
Delicate Back
>Class:
Occultist
>Specialisations:
Flesh Shaping (Master)
Demonology (Master)
Hellfire (Basic)
Metamorphosis (Basic)
>Background:
School
>Skills:
Locksmithing
Logistics
Ancient Languages
>Traits:
Fast Metabolism
Spirit Medium
Specialised
Dream Pact
Favored
Celestial
Daemonic Weapon
Succubus Companion
>Item:
Rabbit's Foot
>Factions:
The Fellowship of the Fearless
>Dungeon:
The Spire
>Companions:
Lady Myserix Honeyglow The Fourth
Agrippa
Tlaco The Tall
Grimir Broadhoof

As before, >>96216004, an occultist commanding a legion of super buffed demons. This time however I'm taking on the Spire because I ain't no bitch.
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>>97005321
>Agrippa
>With a WOMAN
You're begging for trouble anon
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>>97005328
Wasn't happy about it either but she has negotiation, she'll be fine.
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What cyoa is our half life 3?
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>>97005395
It was Magi Case but it came out
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>>97005409
That is a WIP, not the finished version
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Is it better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all?
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>>97005420
kill all women... in cyoas
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>>97004749
Any counter to Arsenal with master warding, advanced conjuration(or another summoning that only use mana), basic shielding with the mana battery trait and another trait against mental effects ? Also got another basic to spend, maybe on druidism.
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>>97005429
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>>97005423
Then you're stuck with men. That's gay
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>>97005416
The four WIPs of the apocalypse
Luminary
Magi Case
Saint Slayer
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>>97005439
What is wrong with being gay anon? Are you a bigot?
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>>97005395
The zodiac brides vn
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>>97005442
>[I forgot so fill this blank in]
the other 20 hus WIPs...
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>>97005429
Jobs to a guy who punches hard enough
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>>97005449
Yes. I support a hyper racist eugenics program to breed out all inferior traits in the human species, until everyone except me is an anime waifu with giant anime eyes. And they are genetically disposed to loving me very much. Although, by that time I'd presumably be dead of old age? Then they can be very sad about my passing instead and cry anime tears.
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>>97005477
>>97005436
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>>97004730
thats why you marry an asian girl
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>>97005488
No idea what you're trying to say there.
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>>97005496
?
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>>97005224
I would say less food AND poison resistance both increase your physical stats

However being weak in either area won't decrease the gains

I would say steel flesh does not take into account your base durability but any more base durability you have is a bonus on top

>>97004808
Ultimate beast mode, I like it

>>97004675
I mean if you're a healslut wouldn't you want a bigger congregation?

Also yes, this CYOA is intended to be multiplayer possible if you'd like.

I do intend to make there be specific attributes next version
>Strength
>Agility
>Stamina
>Vitality
>Arcane
>Mana
>Speed
>Resistance
>Willpower
>Hardiness
>Fatigue

Or something along those lines
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>>97005442
For me it's Italics Luminary
Ereyx = Uraia > Pontha > Other Jobber Moms.
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>>97005511
>next version
wooo
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>>97004753
Can I multi class in this?
Some of these classes shouldnt be separate, or should go hand in hand
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>>97005575
The Arsenal class is the multiclass option.
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>>97005429
numbers.
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God I hate class cancer
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>>97005605
What about a caste system?
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>>97005578
>master of little
Gay
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>>97005605
What if you can buy power from the other classes for, say, a 1.5 price modifier?
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You’d think mages and alchemists would be the same thing desu
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>>97005105
>>97005144
>>97005209
you should all be ashamed of yourselves for liking this trash
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matterfag post
do not engage
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>>97005652
Don’t listen to anon’s butthurt. If anything you should make it even more arbitrary to upset him even more!
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Nature is more godlike than the gods and Zeus would get swallowed by the sun. By ‘sun’ I mean the actual unbelievably giant sun and not its fag human personification Helios of Apollo.
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>>97005660
Obsessed
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>>97005695
> Helios of Apollo.
Apollo of Helios* the latter came first and the former took on the latter
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>>97005653
Mages do magic. Alchemists do alchemy.
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>>97005632
fuck I hate being caste
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>>97005511
Please add eternal youth
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>>97005716
They were literally the same thing in history if you aren’t uneducated. People back then didn’t really distinguish between nature, religion and magic. It was all the same shit. A way to cope or explain the world. Even science today has all the essences of magic and religion you’re just not allowed to bring it up or point it out.
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magic=tech
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Remember to >>96979300
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“God? Totally not magic. Don’t care if he transmutes blood to wine.”

“Science? Totally not magic. Don’t care if we’re living like Atlanteans.”
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>>97005791
>>97005436
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Bitch.
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Ordion you’re a good lad don’t let our resident demon get to you
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>>97005852
hi!
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Authors include classes because they want to have variety in builds, and in the process, destroy all variety by forcing people into pre-designated paths for powers instead of letting them pick freely.
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>>97005901
What if by default all powers cost the same but you can choose to dedicate yourself to a class getting a half discount on its powers but getting a double cost on 2 others?
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>>97005901
Ordion’s cyoas are thematically based on class cancer like the elder scrolls you motherfucking retard that’s the whole POINT and STYLE of it. Dumb ass motherfucker.
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>>97004763
Wouldn't it be 2 classes since arsenal can steal class abilities?

>>97003727
These threads go by so fast I forgot to post this while working on my DD build
Civan Erden
School:
Bear{
>Free: Constitution 2, Senses 1, Cell Regeneration
}
Abilities (base10+5Bane=15SP){
Fighting -6SP
Barehanded Combat 3
Nine Sun Sword Style 3
Temerian Devil Style 1

General -9
Constitution 3 | 2 (free) -1SP
Stealth 3 | -3SP
Senses 3 | 1 (free) -2SP
Mobility 3 | -3SP
}
Boon(base2, bane1=3LP){
>Sleight of Hand 1, Criminal Contacts 1, Group of Friends 1
}
Banes(bane1){
>Infamous+2, Torture Chamber +1, High Sensitivity +3
}
Remaining LP from Banes: 5, convert that to SP.

I imagine they're just this massive brute who's somehow equally light on their toes. Their regen is painful, gaping wounds stitching thick, oozing veins back together, knitting knotted sinew and muscle over exposed bone. More monster than Witcher, yet still attempts to appear a mere man.
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>>97005901
>and in the process, destroy all variety by forcing people into pre-designated paths for powers instead of letting them pick freely.
Strong agree
>Authors include classes because they want to have variety in builds
I don't think it's even that. It's just that many obvious inspirations, like D&D and vidya, have classes, and so, having classes is the default starting point for the cyoa author. The decision to include a class system is made without much conscious thought to it.
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>>97005922
cope~
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>>97005901
Just take Arsenal.
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Classes de-educate and make you dumb. As ironic as it sounds.
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>>97005995
>>97005769
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>>97004749
Classic Elf Mage, Previous version build https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96214506/#96218690
>Bipedal
>Agile, Attuned, Surge(Magic), Resistant, Sharp Senses(Vision), Mystical
>Phobia(Crowds), Allergic(feathers), Slow Healer, Delicate Back
Slow Healer doesn't seem to be too much of a problem with other healing sources, and what self respecting elf mage carries their own burdens?
>Bell, Coin Pouch
A bell seems more appropriate for summoning
>Mage
>Evocation(Advanced), Conjuration(Master), Enchantment(Intermediate), Spelltwisting(Intermediate)
Tempted to master Spelltwisting too, but Cataclysm seems more fun, even if retracing Primordials would be great.
>School
>Ancient Languages, Runemaking, Maintenance, Curse Breaking
I guess I theoretically studied magic equipment.
>Skilled, Potion Connoisseur, Fast Metabolism, Demolisher, Dungeon Gourmand
Still no mage traits I care for the drawbacks of. Took Dungeon Gourmand mainly because of companions. Sadist was tempting, but I'm not sure I want to put up with slower stamina recovery.
>Replenishing Flask(mana)
>The Brotherhood of Benevolence
The Spire is tempting, but nothing says I have to start there, nor that I have to stay with whatever group I join. Not that I am certain to switch.
>The Caves
Caves seem more appealing than the Catacombs with the update. Not really set on this though.
>Hiyori, Drezsha of Darkholme, Korgalda, Beyhan
I don't think we are the most synergistic party, however they are the ones I like the most.
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The Persian magi were basically priests, magicians and proto-scientists all in one.
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>>97006048
>>97006007
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>>97005511
>I mean if you're a healslut wouldn't you want a bigger congregation?
I though about mastering congregation because phallanx is strong but I feel like martyrdom is a a bit weak as the answer to a difficult fight is almost never to sacrifice your strongest healer
besides I knew I wanted to have guardian of fate + weaponized steed to have my own personal knight and blessing of defense because total invulnerability is bound to be good in certain situations

>Also yes, this CYOA is intended to be multiplayer possible if you'd like.
nice to know, I might choose to remove my companions so I can team up with other anons

>>97004730
nuh uh, my goddess is going to ascend me into an immortal angel so I can spread her world throughout the world
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>>97006129
>I'm going to Sartre immortality
So you are going to cheat, got it
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>>97004749
>Race: Bipedal

>Racial Strengths:
Strong
Agile
Enduring
Tough
Dark Vision
Resistant

>Racial Weakness:
Disrupted
Mundane
Short
Phobias (Agoraphobia)

>Starting Gear:
Shortbow
Coin Pouch

>Class: Monk

>Potential:
Steelflesh (Master)
Healing Hands (Advanced)
Spirit Warrior (Intermediate)
Drunken Mastery (Intermediate)

>Background: Dungeon Tribe

>Skills:
Dungeon Lore [Free]
Monster Knowledge
Negotiation

>Traits:
Through Digestion
Demolisher
Spirit Medium
Specialized
Vegetarian
Swiftfoot
Warrior Monk Pills
Self-Control

>Item: Adventurer’s Journal

>Faction: The Brotherhood Of Benevolence

>Dungeon: The Catacombs

>Companions:
Lady Myserix Honeyglow IV
Drezsha Of Darkholme
Korgalda
Tlaco The Tall

Quick update to my dwarf monk build. One can only dig a hole when they have turned themselves into a shovel.
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Heroes should marry intelligent magical weapons.
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>>97006272
gold
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>>97006272
Wizard ofc.
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>>97005489
That is why you marry a japanese girl.
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>>97006272
The Falcon is the stealth best option. If Chewbacca is real enough to come and rape you, the rest of Star Wars must be real too, so you can fly off and join the high-tech scifi society.
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>>97005901
If class is just a prepackaged set of skills, then it does nothing but limit potential builds. I like it when skills aren't tied to specific classes, but classes instead give unique benefits that synergy well with skills or unlock new ways to use skills (like in A New Necromancer).
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>>97006272
As a poorfag, there is only one true option.
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>>97006272
qt3.14 gf? wtf does that mean?
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>>97006349
With the girlfriend you can do porn and get money, you don't even have to show your faces.
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>>97006366
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>>97006366
When you say the letters q and t one after the other, what word does it sound like? What is the mathematical term for the number that rounds to 3.14, and what English word does it sound like? What English term of endearment is made using these two words together?
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>>97006366
q t pi
cutiepie
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>>97006391
Cutie?
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>>97006272
>taste in music
>star wars
>dnd spells
>invisible clergy
Most reddit cyoa award goes to
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>>97006397
You're not supposed to tell him, you're supposed to let him figure it out using the hints. You have denied anon intellectual enrichment.
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>>97006366
Younglings these days can't even decypher the old script
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>>97006403
That's the first part of the puzzle, what about the other one?
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>>97006408
> You have denied anon intellectual enrichment.
hehe yup
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>>97006408
>You have denied anon intellectual enrichment.
good, anons don't deserve to get xp
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>>97006397
I thought it meant she was cute and 14. Now I'm disappointed...
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>>97006448
This is the average iq of the adversary of moralchads. This is what we have to put up with.
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>>97006372
>he thinks he could make hundreds of thousands, let alone millions off porn without the (((wealthy))) paying you to do doing money laundry for them
poor stupid anon
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>>97006272
>>97006279
>>97006349
real question but how would you exchange all of that gold and diamonds, let alone where would you even store it until you find where to sell it?
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>>97005071
Earth > Water > Air > Fire.
Fuck captcha.
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>>97005071
Fire is obviously superior, but Earth gets a pass.
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>>97005071
Wind ofc, it's just short of telekinesis. It's everywhere and invisible.
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>>97005071
Water if it includes healing, otherwise I'd rather have real magic (purple undefined energy).
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>>97006654
Not my problem. I have top men sorting that all out for me now.
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>>97005511
>>97005511
Thanks Ordion thought that might be the case. Might update build in a bit
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>>97005168
Should've added this.
Just imagine this with air. Water. Fucking earth. Nothing compares. This? This is class.
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>>97005511
Thank you for the hard work Ordion Anon. I appreciate it. Nothing like a good old-fashioned dungeon, and this one has a lot of neat combinations.
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>>97005071
i really hate to say it but wind is shit, once i would have argued that earth is the worst option but then i realized earth magic has the best solution for dealing with magic resistant enemies.
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>>97006621
> Primary Power
Illogical
> Empowerment
All
> Destination
Home

now i win.
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>>97006807
That is not true. Wind is wind. Shit is shit. You are speaking nonsense.
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>>97006391
Thanks anon, I got it now. I was thinking in my mother tongue
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>>97004749
I wish I could drop a basic to be better in another specialization.
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>>97004749
Can abilties that target allies also be used on your self?
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In three sentences or less, tell me how to “solve” Mushoku Tensei.
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In three sentences or less, tell me how to “solve” Danmachi.
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>>97007136
>>97007143
sartre.
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>>97007150
That's cheating.
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>>97007136
Take max magic.
Take max summoning/arrays.
Nuke the shit out of Orsted since he has crap mana regen.
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>>97007157
He said SOLVE not be the strongest
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>>97007172
Let the story unfold
????
Profit
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>>97007172
I don’t understand the difference?
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>>97007136
God Magic Arrays
Blurry + Future Sight(if you're not a jobber, you'll figure out how to give yourself this with magic arrays instead of buying it)
God Barrier, King instead if you want to risk it because you're cheap
Abuse the custom companion rules to make your ultimate fighttard waifu
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>>97007183
>letting the protag fucks the girls
cuck
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>>97007183
But what if anon wants to kill/cuck Rudeus?
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>>97007184
Of course you don’t, sigh
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>>97007192
See >>97007172
Enough with the Goku brain rot
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Someone should make a drawback where you have aura, but instead of being cool, you can't see shit.
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>>97007196
If I were to sent to Mushoku Tensei, I would definitely kill Rudeus for being an incestuous pedophile.
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>>97007214
Basically the glowing eyes drawback in creature of the night
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>>97007204
That is how you solve it, being the strongest would need you to swap out barrier magic for something else
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I'm giving up on reading Lord of the Mysteries at chapter 20. I might watch the anime instead, if it ever finishes.
I expected something more, for how big a readership it got? When I read them, to me it felt that for example Worm and especially Unsong chased a unique artistic vision each, LotM doesn't feel that way, it feels more "serial fiction where serial fictiony things happen".
And the writing style keeps bothering me.
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>>97007254
Being the strongest =|= Solving the cyoa
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>>97007258
chapter 20 is nothing, try to get a little further
I can't promise you'll like it but if you stop before klein even gets powers then have you really read enough to call it
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>>97007172
>>97007270
>>97007136
samefag
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Might makes right. It’s annoying but it’s true. You can be 100% in the right, but, if you can’t enforce it…
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>>97007194
I got my own plus his daughters will also be mine
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>>97007194
You call it cuckery
I call it investing in his daughters
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>>97006777
You are wrong god
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>>97005117
He's fast...
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>>97007351
physically
mentally he's quite slow
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>>97007371
our posterboy
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>>97005117
My all strength, 0 speed, 0 durability, 0 intelligence, 0 magic build is better.
If I hit I win
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>>97007400
>Mfw I stand still just for you to still miss
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>>97007426
Fuckkk I knew I forgot something. I had to put at least 1 in precision.
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>>97007435
Too late, now you're the laughing stock forever.
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>>97007143
You have two options (if you want to beat the best of the best).

Option A: Take Combat 3 and max levels (Level 6) and then take anything else you want that’s available.

Option B: Take Metamagic and the Raise and Spirit Fire spells to become some Ais + Haruhime hybrid.
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>>97007469
>no trigger warning for the m-word
Shame on you.
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>>97007192
>>97007469
Any lore/canon fags around to determine if these strategies are legit
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>>97005117
Its all about tactics. Retards that think their personal power matters will die first.
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>>97007435
0 intelligence is anon's natural stat lmao
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>>97007494
>fiance
>lost love
I'm surprised anons never shitposted about her
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>>97007494
Irrelevant. Mixing personal and companion points is such a joke.
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>>97007526
fantasy world
bathrobe, satchel
small space in city
spouse that waits
retirement
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>>97007508
Who? Also what's there to shitpost about? It's just shit, no need to even talk about it.
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>>97007550
Winnie
the elf in the bottom right
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>>97007494
Shelly Baier is such a fuck bunny
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>>97007557
She’s just depressing. You better make her happy.
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>>97007484
The first is legit, you fight at level 7 tier, so you're at least in the top three.
the second is iffier, you lack haruhime's bs spells, and it's arguable Ais'aero is at the same level of raise.
Most importantly if you want to beat the one-eyed black draon you absolutely need liaris freese and serious autism, the setting is made to be impossible to beat for anyone but Bell, level 9s died against the one-eyed black dragon, you need Bell's cheat.
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>>97004749
I haven't done a build in a while...
>race
winged, imagine a big polyp with wings, multiple arms, multiple eyes, yes I wanted the eldrich thing.
>racial strenghts
extra arms, attuned.
Multiple arms are mostly for cosmetic and lore, maybe I can cast more spells? It's just for fun mostly.
>racial weakeness
weak, delicate
Unfortunately, I'll stay away as I can.
>gear
marlinspike, conch.
The humble lance, the great invention, good when you have the ability to fly above your opponent.
>class
mage, master spellmanipulator, advanced conjuration. other intermediate.
I just like this kind of thing, 3.5 influenced me I guess, besides summoning is always nice.
>background
city, negotiation.
Yeah it's not a full minmaxed wizard build, knowing how to talk is useful.
>skills
dungeon lore, ancient languages, runemaker.
Now you see the more wizard build shine trough, generally a support kind of skillset, with focus on info gathering.
>traits
mana eater, skilled, spirit medium.
I didn't take all of them cause they seem really bad most of the time, I prefer to be able to do many things, again spirit medium for the info and more diplomacy.
>items
magical map.
Yay treasure.
>faction
sunbro, I'm not a saint, but I find the idea of 9-5 as an adventurer stupid as fuck, so let's be sunbros.
>dungeon
Caves, for the treasure.
>companions
anons, I call you! Be friendly and sunny!
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>>97007598
Alright found an image.
Damn it has been a while since I post here.
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>>97007557
Just as I said, no reason to even toalk about her. Boring, depressing, cuck bait.
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>>97007580
>the second is iffier, you lack haruhime's bs spells
The author did say he made Raise with Ais’ Ariel in mind, but whether he meant it to be as potent/powerful, I’m not sure.
Regardless, it’s listed as a short tier 1 spell, meaning if Raise is raised (lol) with Metamagic to tier 3 status then it should have just as much potential or level boosting power as Haruhime’s own, and you should be able to use it on yourself (like Ais’ Ariel) as well (a drawback most enchanters like Hedin or Haruhime can’t do). You should also be able to lace (via Metamagic) Raise with Spirit Fire for a spirit fire themed Ariel - and this wouldn’t be reduced by elemental resistances (this should also mean that it eats through Ais’ Ariel since the wind element counts as an elemental resistance) as explained in the text.
Even anti mages like Bete would be at a loss against you - the author (of the manga/anime) also said Ais with Ariel is usually going to beat Bete.
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>>97007136
maximixe summoning, call nukes
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>>97007573
>>97007630
You’re horrible. She lost her husband and her village and she’s trying her very best and you talk shit about her? I’ve met people like her IRL. They have stronger wills than you could ever imagine.
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>>97007580
>level 9s died against the one-eyed black dragon, you need Bell's cheat.
There was only one (1) level 9 at the time and Bell as a level 8/9 will count as a level 9/10 with Haruhime boosting him.
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>>97007557
She's supposed to be "I can fix her" bait by you romancing her, dude. Why get mad at her?
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>>97006744
They kill you and keep it for themselves. Dumbass really though 25 billion wouldn't tempt people.
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>dude, what if fantasy world, but with jrpg mechanics,
The only thing worse are the gods acting like regular people which demystifies them
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>>97007700
>I’ve met people like her IRL
Yes and? In fact that's a point against her, real world shit is shit.
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>>97007690
Rise at level 3 being a level upper like Haruhime isn't how I would read it but I will recognize I'm not an authority in the matter, same for spirit for destroying defensive magics like Ariel.
Finally Ais has the advantage of being far stronger than Bete in the first place.
>>97007704
But there were various fighters at those levels (Alfia and Zald for example).
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>>97004749
Why didn't you faggots tell me this kino updated? Making a build RN
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>>97007752
We did anon...
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>>97007494
I feel like a bunch of them are too young for their level.
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>>97007751
Elemental enchants like Ais’ Ariel and Hedin’s lightning enchant have been roughly compared to Haruhime’s spell, but that’s about it.
>spirit for destroying defensive magics like Ariel.
I’m only going by the “not reduced by elemental resistances” part of the text, so I imagine her wind wouldn’t do very good.
>Finally Ais has the advantage of being far stronger than Bete in the first place.
Only with Ariel, no? Base Ais is said to be at a loss when against other adventurers.
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>>97007811
Typical anime does that shit anon. Anime loves unrealistically talented youths being better than the adults. There are canonically eight year olds being allowed into the Dungeon, lmaooo.

Most powerful wizard in western stories? Some old ass regal sage with a long ass beard.

Most powerful wizard in Japanese stories? Some cringe loli or shota or something.
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>>97004749
>>97004797
>Hiyori
>Old fashioned
>wears a bra
did anyone ask Ordion if we can become immortal if we gather enough embers of vampirism is the only way?
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>>97007835
>Anime loves unrealistically talented youths being better than the adults
Toph is the strongest earthbender in Avatar and she is what, 12?

Ben 10 was 10 at the start of the show

Danny Phantom is a teenager who beats way older ghosts
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>There are canonically eight year olds being allowed into the Dungeon, lmaooo.
someone send over child protection services
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>>97007864
Avatar is a kids show based on Asian-ism lol. The kids are meant to save the day. This sort of immature cancer isn’t exclusive to Japan it’s just more so pronounced over there. Over here it’s pronounced in areas like capeshit (although even in capeshit you have bad ass old people - modern day anime veers away from bad ass adults aside from long running franchises like Bleach or One Piece).
>Toph
She’s a prodigy. The strongest earth bender is that old ass king. Bumi or whatever. Elder Toph should be more powerful or experienced than younger Toph (but probably not prime adult Toph since Avatar assumes elemental bending is an extension of your muscles).
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>>97007864
>Ben 10
>Danny Phantom
Kids shows. Danmachi is a coomer teen show.
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Daily reminder that jock-hate is a pajeetism.
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>>97007910
You’re obsessed because you have Muslim friends or something.
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>>97007829
>Elemental enchants like Ais’ Ariel and Hedin’s lightning enchant have been roughly compared to Haruhime’s spell, but that’s about it.
Fair, both allows you to fight above your level.
>Base Ais is said to be at a loss when against other adventurers
I actually forgot about that, that's true.
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Why did the Japanese never grow up and move on from children’s cartoons?
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>>97007920
nah he is just a schizo
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>>97007710
>"I can fix her" bait by you romancing her
cyoa waifus for this feel?
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>>97007946
He only started calling him a jeet or a like the moment he said he sided with Israel lol
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>>97007484
>>97007580
>>97007690
>>97007751
>>97007829
>>97007922
Do you listen to yourselves
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>>97007953
Outer Reincarnation.
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>>97007895
>but probably not prime adult Toph since Avatar assumes elemental bending is an extension of your muscles
No. Physical strength does not correlate to bending ability, The Boulder is a giant muscular man and hes a weaker earthbender than Toph, a little girl.
Aang, a litle boy without any muscles, is also an incredibly potent bender.
Hama, a frail old woman, is a powerful water bender.

Bending IS a martial art, it has a physical component. But its not about how strong or muscular you are, its about mental discipline, philosophical understanding and the training to have your body carry out what you need to do.

Its not a strongman tournament, its a "kata" from karate
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>>97007953
All of them, because (You) and (Waifu) are going through endless reincarnations.
Polaris, Charlotte, Pasille, Zynthia, Dido, Alta, Narra-chan - that's her builds.
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Alright so to clarify

Yes abilities that affect allies can affect you (so you can heal yourself)

Yes Hiyori should be tits out but I don't wanna get banned

I would say vampires are not inherently immortal

I would say embers alone are not enough for immortality, but there are some avenues for immortality that involve embers
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>>97008022
Great, horrores is fine.
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>>97007710
>"I can fix her"
She has nothing to fix, you are just making yourself a cuck into used goods. She's not crazy, just sad.
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>>97008022
>all your waifus are actually the same person
How are you supposed to react to this information?
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>>97008040
This is fake.
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>>97008060
So haremfagging was the right choice and the only way to avoid quantum ntr?
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>>97008010
>No. Physical strength does not correlate to bending ability
It absolutely does. Old benders more than once say shit like “I’d beat you even harder were I in my prime”, and Toph is one of them. Bumi seems to be the sole exception.
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>>97008060
You don't, it's not real.
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>>97008040
So how does multiplayer work here exactly, do you just not take companions?
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>>97008040
alright man than you a lot.
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>>97008010
I think he’s saying bending ability correlates with your health, not literal muscle strength, anon. So yes, an old bender that’s physically weaker than their past youthful self will be “weaker” at their element. Because elemental bending takes a toll on the body.

I do find this stupid, though. It would have been cooler had elemental benders retire and isolated themselves. Senior Toph shouldn’t be weaker than an adult Toph. I don’t like that.
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>>97008081
>It absolutely does.
It doesent, once again Toph as a little girl was dunking on giant wrestlers.

There is a physical component to bending, all things being equal someone in their physical prime - with more stamina, agility, and better reflexes, is going to be a superior bender. That is not the same thing as "it is to do with how physically strong you are".

The muscles that benders have are simply a result of the fact that the training for bending also strengthens the body.
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>>97008084
Same way the Convention acts when figuring out pic related.

>>97008078
Only if we assume that in this hypothetical scenario, (Waifu) is inside all of them at once. Otherwise she's probably getting cucked at some point statistically speaking.
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>>97008010
>Hama, a frail old woman, is a powerful water bender.
She lost to a little girl, lol. Remember this is a kid’s show. Elemental bending doesn’t age like wine. Although in my opinion it should.
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>>97008138
That is also not real.
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>>97008129
>It doesent, once again Toph as a little girl was dunking on giant wrestlers.
It does. You’re missing the point. Senior Toph is weaker than adult Toph. This has nothing to do with how physically strong a person is. Toph is stronger than the Boulder because she’s a stronger earth bender, not because she’s physically stronger than the Boulder.
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>>97008054
You fix her broken heart, homo.
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>>97007835
Matterfag warning, please remain calm.
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>>97008138
>Same way the Convention acts when figuring out pic related.
Containment? Kill order?
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It’s cooler when wizards are more due to their age. Like vampires.
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>>97004749
Best class?
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>>97007710
I'd prefer to fight a 2v1 against her alive but brainwashed-by-Dungeon husband, then send them off back to their happily ever after.
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>>97008081
Bending is partially spiritual. It's canon that the sole reason Sokka isn't a waterbender is because he's completely lacking in spiritualism, and otherwise he would be one (though without his sister's talent.) If someone is more spiritual in old age than in their prime, they'll be a better Bender, though they might still suffer for their age. If they were as spiritual in their prime as a senior, then the only advantage they'll have is experience while their physical ability and maybe even their bending will be lesser.
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>>97008129
>There is a physical component to bending, all things being equal someone in their physical prime - with more stamina, agility, and better reflexes, is going to be a superior bender

And this is why Avatar sucks. Eventually you shouldn’t even need to do martial arts to bend your element. You should be so in tune with your surrounding element you can just shrug it someone else’s way.

Similar to how the Sith eventually forego lightsabers since their potential is a lot lower than sheer Force ability. They only use them to mock the Jedi.

An elder bender shouldn’t need to move much at all. Similar to how ancient sages in China just breathed to control the wind. No motion needed. All internal.
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>>97008142
>She lost to a little girl
Little girls being known for their muscles.
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>>97008193
>If someone is more spiritual in old age than in their prime, they'll be a better Bender, though they might still suffer for their age
This implies Toph is more physical and less spiritual.
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>>97008200
that neck strength be crazy
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>>97008182
Arsenal. One of the traits is just straight up "You're just better".
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>>97008210
Toph isn't a super spiritual person, she's not Bumi who's completely immersed in the mindset of his element, or one of the various other elders.
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>>97008195
>Eventually you shouldn’t even need to do martial arts to bend your element.
You don't. Bumi can earthbend by twitching his nose.
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>>97008200
You appear to be too stupid to do the necessary nuance to follow this conversation along properly. Muscle mass period does not correlate with bending strength, but one does become a weaker bender when their muscles lessen. This is what they mean when they say that elemental bending is an extension of their muscles - or more accurately the self. It’s not ritualist magic totally impersonal from the martial.
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>>97008162
First, that's not an "I can fix her" girl, she needs to be crazy for that. Second, you also don't fix a broken heart like that. She will always feel guilty and think about her dead husband even if she loves you, it's cucked.
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>>97008227
Yeah that’s stupid. She’s living in a fucking swamp by the time of Korra. She should be fucking Yoda. She’s also blind. She should be more spiritual than martial.

And this is assuming spirituality can even make up for one’s aging / loss of health.
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>>97008239
Sounds like you're not dicking her good enough.
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>>97008232
They should have demonstrated this more then. Like with how Toph just needs to move her feet to bury you in earth. But “hur dur I’m weaker as an old lady hur dur” so…
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>>97008257
Nobody is going to argue Korra is any good, anon.
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If Avatar had actually good writing and world building the pinnacle of elemental bending would end with the bender becoming one with their element, or ascending to spirit status, ditching their humanity entirely.

The Avatar shouldn’t even be human. But it is. Whatever. It’s a kid’s show. Humans need to be identifiable.
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>>97008239
She might love you more than she loved her dead fiance, you don't know.
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>>97008299
She loved someone else before me. That's Lionheart all over again...
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Asian magic philosophy = I know kung fu

West magic philosophy = I summon gods
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>>97008317
matterfag philosophy = I swallow dicks
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>>97008328
My HEROINE
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>>97008182
Occultist is the only one that gives you a girlfriend
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>>97007829
>>97007922
Enchant(buff) magic in Danmachi is weird. It’s either meant for you alone, or someone else. For some reason buffers can’t buff both themselves and another.
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>>97008105
More or less

Though I suppose if you agree with another anon on a companion you both are in a party together

Anyway I think I need to reformat the order of choices

>Stat description
>Race choices
>Traits
>Class
>Skills
>Potentials
>Starting gear
>Factions
>Dungeon
>Companions
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>>97008361
Also, is it possible to learn the stuff the flesh-makers are capable of doing?
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>>97008317
It’s weird. Both east and west had this alchemical obsession with internally perfecting the inner self, and not just perfecting the outside world, but for whatever reason the Chinese focused on martial autism (yes Kung Fu) while Westerners wanted to unite with the divine, meet the Godhead, or escape it.
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>>97008402
“I love the body”
“I hate the body”
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>>97008402
The East also wants to do that. The weird autism you have with them 'liking kungfu' is you misunderstanding. They 'do kungfu' because they believe the body is a conduit of and tied to the spirit. Exercising and meditating properly can enhance the spirit and help bring enlightenment. The west, despite the "The body is a temple!" Christianity stuff, basically view the body, and everything physical and material, as innately poisoned and sinful. So they saw no point and believed there was no advantage to, training the body.
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>>97008419
>“I love the body”
based
>“I hate the body”
tranny mindset
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>>97004749
Bipedal

>Strengths:
Strong, Attuned
Enduring, Tough, Mystical, Resistant

>Weaknesses:
Restricted Diet (Meat), Limited (Heat), Obsessive (Cooking), Slow Healer

>Gear:
Cleaver, Coin Pouch

>Class:
Arsenal
>Potential:
Hellfire (Master), Steelflesh (Master), Mountain Might (Basic), Life Magic (Basic)

>Background:
School (Cartography)
>Skills:
Dungeon Cooking, Monster Knowledge

>Traits:
Daemonic Weapon (Butcher's Cleaver)
Fate-Touched (Daemonic Weapon)
Weapon Specialist (Butcher's Cleaver)
Battlemage
Blueblood
Dungeon Gourmand
Sadist
Glutton

Item: Unique Key

Faction: The Fellowship of the Fearless

Dungeon: The Spire

Companions: Hiyori, Vorpal, Myserix, Alcheon
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>>97008419
Only hard Gnostics hate the body. True Hermetics have truest gnosis; appreciate both the above as well as the below.
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>>97008328
That's wrong, he eats poop on top of a decaying corpse like a true aryan brahmin aghori.
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>>97008452
Once a naive young adventurer, this man's path was forever changed by his discovery of the cursed demonic blade of the Iron Chef.
Now, his life is ruled by the influence of this dark weapon.
Every day, he must push himself further in the pursuit of culinary excellence. Hellfire unleashes the true potential of meat in a way that lesser flames never could but this alone is no guarantee that he can meet the cleaver's inhuman standards. Every day the blade's fell voice rings out in his mind, delivering lectures on the Path of the Iron Chef. Every night he must try and ignore its ravings to find rest, as it curses the many fools who never appreciated its genius.

But perhaps all this could have been bearable, were it not for its accompanying magick. The weapon has also gifted him a mighty body of metal, granting him the power to crush his enemies and laugh off their blows... But leaving him unable to taste any of the meals that he puts his soul into crafting. This is made all the worse as the blade doesn't want its food going to waste, and the reactions of others make it clear what he's missing. The weapon's magic has removed his ability and need for eating but the desire still remains. Mortal minds weren't meant for such torment.

His one hope, perhaps, lies in the legendary Spire, for rumors suggest that it may hold the key to escaping such a demonic curse.
And so he has set forth with a band of adventurers who are well pleased with the bounty that is set before them daily... But only time will tell if this story may grow darker yet when their feast's end looms in the future.

Fun CYOA. The story I wanted to do came to mind almost immediately as I read it. But I'll be honest, I barely looked at the companions.
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>>97004749
>Race:
Body Type: Winged
Strengths: Enduring, Attuned, Mystical, Magical Surge
Weaknesses: Short, Hungry

>Starting Gear:
Conch, Bell

>Class:
Mage (Master: Evocation, Spelltwisting; Basic: Conjuration, Enchantment)

>Background:
School

>Skills:
Dungeon Cooking, Monster Knowledge, Dungeon Lore, Curse Breaking

>Traits:
Skilled, Fast Metabolism, Thorough Digestion, Demolisher, Spiritual Medium

>Item:
Spellcaster's Ring

>Faction:
The Fellowship of the Fearless

>Dungeon:
The Spire

It has the most mages and thus the most magical treasures. Eat the liches. Their souls are the best tonic for mages.

>Companions:
Lady Myserix Honeyglow the Fourth, Alcheon, Drezsha of Darkholme, Tlaco the Tall

Flesh-Shaping... How amazing. I must learn it. I shall exchange knowledge with Drezsha.
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>>97008433
>The East also wants to do that. The weird autism you have with them 'liking kungfu' is you misunderstanding
Not really. In the last century monks legit thought they could deflect bullets using their chi. They couldn’t. Communists destroyed them and shat on Buddhism. External alchemy is just far more powerful than internal alchemy. They refused to see this. The western alchemical mindset, even when inner or spiritual, still saw the external world as massively outweighing the self. The eastern mindset didn’t really. You have Buddhism as a parallel to Gnosticism in that they both seem to escape a perceived “flawed” world, but Buddhism is also an incredibly arrogant (if less nihilistic) belief system compared to Gnosticism, and people want to become Buddha way too hard.

This obsession with martialism is inherent to the E. Asian mindset. The Westerner is more practical/worldly.
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So... where is husanon's cyoa?
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>>97008509
Never EVER.
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>>97008433
>The west, despite the "The body is a temple!" Christianity stuff, basically view the body, and everything physical and material, as innately poisoned and sinful.
Not in Hermetic Christianity that posits a human soul is just a divine egg.
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>>97008500
Yes yes anon, you just wanted to use this conversation to be jingoistic, I know.
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>>97008513
No, that is ultimate god
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>>97008509
Just after Echoes PSY don't worry about it.
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>>97008509
I think right after conquest and half life 3
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>>97008500
>if less nihilistic
Buddhism is incredibly nihilistic it just tries very hard to hide it, and it actually sees reincarnation as a BAD thing

Imagine if there was a Hermetic equivalent to Buddhism that says you can find value in both sides of the same coin.
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>>97004749
>Race:
Winged
>Strengths:
Agile
Attuned
Mystical
Sharp Senses (Vision)
Dark Vision
Surge (Magic)
Cantrip (Distant Spell)
>Weaknesses:
Weak
Short
Slow Healer
Allergic (Rice)
Dulled Senses (Smell)
Restricted Diet (Carinvore)
Delicate Back
>Class:
Occultist
>Specialisations:
Flesh Shaping (Master)
Demonology (Master)
Hellfire (Basic)
Metamorphosis (Basic)
>Background:
School
>Skills:
Logistics
Ancient Languages
Cartography
>Traits:
Fast Metabolism
Spirit Medium
Specialised
Dream Pact
Favored
Celestial
Daemonic Weapon
Succubus Companion
>Item:
Rabbit's Foot
>Factions:
The Fellowship of the Fearless
>Dungeon:
The Spire
>Companions:
Multiplayer

Updating >>97005321 to Multiplayer since it's more fun. Also swapping locksmithing for cartography since I want it more and there'll probably be at least one anon who takes locksmithing instead.
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Christians are retarded and can’t see that channeling the Holy Spirit to speak in tongues is a form of shamanism. They are literally speaking through some spirit.
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>>97008550
>Updating to Multiplayer
By not taking companions?? There's no such requirement.
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>>97008570
>>97008335
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>>97008570
>Verbena mysticGOD trashtalking Celestial Choruscel
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>>97008570
As I get older I realize that the horseshoe theory is truer and truer and humans believe the same exact type of shit without even realizing it. “No it’s different” when it’s really just not.
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>>97008579
Technically, but I think it would be pretty awkward to have to allocate companions in mp so it's easier to just leave them.
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>>97004749
Indominable Spellblade

>Race
Bipedal

>Racial Strengths
Strong
Enduring
Agile
Attuned
Mystical
Resistant
Surge (Physical)

>Racial Weaknesses
Frail
Dulled Senses (smell)
Slow Healer
Phobia (Large Bodies of Water)
Restricted Diet (Herbivore)

>Starting Gear
Marlin Spike
Barrel Lid

>Class
Arsenal

BattleForging: Master
Virtues: Advanced
Empowerment: Intermediate
Mountain Might: Basic

>Background
School

>Skills
Logistics
Cartography
Locksmithing
Maintenance

>Traits
Warrior Monk Pills
Encased
Battlemage
Blueblood
Demolisher
Sadist
Skilled

Specialized

>Item
Unique Key

>Faction
The Fellowship of the Fearless

>Dungeon
The Spire

>Companions
Multiplayer

So made an arsenal build that is equipment focused and has a good mix of skills. Warrior is a nice class, and I almost went with it directly, but my main interest is the Armor focus and the possibility of being a spell blade really appeals to me. A key synergy is that with the warrior ability and the encased trait my gear is self repairing. With that said I was a little frustrated with the companion section as to really shine my particular build needs an engineer to supply me with good armor. Wouldn’t you know it the one engineer companion only has basic Armory skill. I know the companions can’t supply every possible build but having the one engineer (the most critical support class) go master master on Ballistics and Alchemy is annoying as hell and even the flavor text indicates the companion is suboptimal. Making her faction locked and with a serpent body plan is just salt in the wounds IMO.
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>>97008570
Yeah, a BIG FUCKING spirit larger than nature as you know it. Totally larger than your gay nature spirits which are isolated to trees and rivers and rocks, lmaooo.

One again Christians keep winning. You argue we’re shamans but we can just as easily argue we’re the bigger and better shamans too. God’s spirit > a fucking tree
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>>97004749
A super dungeon with the benefits of all the lesser dungeons combined? Not a good idea.
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>Christian upscale
Its over for redditors
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>>97008644
>we’re
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>>97008651
A GREAT idea!
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Cyrus...
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>>97008644
So big the claim it is benevolent is sus as hell.
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>>97004749
Picking Arsenal feels like a cop out but I can’t help myself
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>>97008694
Same here. Most of the prebuilt classes have lame synergies as well.
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>>97008694
Same. I always play meta when I can help it in games.
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The split of priests and shamans is what fucked us up
Christian priests would condemn you for having a personal experience with God
“No only the goddamned Pope can make such a claim!”
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>>97004749
goddamit I completely missed the starting gear
updating >>97008550
>Race:
Winged
>Staring Gear:
Conch
Bell
>Strengths:
Agile
Attuned
Mystical
Sharp Senses (Vision)
Dark Vision
Surge (Magic)
Cantrip (Distant Spell)
>Weaknesses:
Weak
Short
Slow Healer
Allergic (Rice)
Dulled Senses (Smell)
Restricted Diet (Carinvore)
Delicate Back
>Class:
Occultist
>Specialisations:
Flesh Shaping (Master)
Demonology (Master)
Hellfire (Basic)
Metamorphosis (Basic)
>Background:
School
>Skills:
Logistics
Ancient Languages
Cartography
>Traits:
Fast Metabolism
Spirit Medium
Specialised
Dream Pact
Favored
Celestial
Daemonic Weapon
Succubus Companion
>Item:
Rabbit's Foot
>Factions:
The Fellowship of the Fearless
>Dungeon:
The Spire
>Companions:
Multiplayer

Okay, NOW we're done.
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You say spirit I say demon
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You say demon I say fae
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stop saying dumb things
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You say 12 I say correction
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You say demon I say alien
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You say spirit, demon, fae or alien I say waifu.
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shamans are the true form of priest because they don’t separate personal experience from mere station
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you say magic i say physics
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Is there really a difference between a priest calling forth a “god” and a “spirit” speaking through a shaman? What if it’s the same damn entity?
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>>97008780
>>97008799
>>97008803
>>97008807
>>97008810
>>97008823
Holy cringe
>>97008833
Based
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You say fae I say Ayy
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>>97008849
>>97008833
Holyy cringe
>>97008780
>>97008799
>>97008803
>>97008807
>>97008810
>>97008823
Based
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>>97008848
There is no difference. An intermediary is an intermediary. How it manifests, or how you go about it, is just superficial icing on top of the psychological cake.
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I can't pretend to have the right opinion and get the Yous if you retards can't agree on it. Pick a fucking lane.
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Why should we allow just anyone to be a Catholic priest if we don’t know they’re in touch with God? How do Catholics prove this?
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>>97007258
Cringe. Wormverse jobs hard to LotM characters.
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>>97007258
>can't get through 20 of the 1000+ chapter webnovel
grim...
>feels more "serial fiction where serial fictiony things happen"
odd. usually people complain that the first book is too slow and not enough action happens
>And the writing style keeps bothering me.
that's fair, lotm is one of those works where the translation really shits up the writing quality
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Danmachi fucking sucks
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Make a new thread or God will smite you in 15 minutes
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>>97008965
I see through you Snake
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>>97008965
I won't mind that because it means that he's paying attention to me.
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Alright so it seems Arsenal is still really good cause of the flexibility and stacking different specialisations

I think I'll add a choice of unique abilities for each class that the Arsenal won't get
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>>97008991
Why are you so intent in making the cyoa worse?
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>>97008991
yesss
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>>97008991
Arsenal is good because it lets you make real choices. It's letting you design the house when all the other classes do is let you choose the color of paint for the walls.
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>>97008893
Because you shouldn’t have or need to take drugs, or have frightening seizures, to communicate with angels, gods or other entities?

Shamans are incredibly feminine (this is why Norse sorcery is seen as feminine; it’s a callback to earlier shamanic times). Priests are masculine. One is a lot more immature than the other.

A god or spirit that takes over random people, causing them to spaz out or scream cringe and incomprehensible languages isn’t really practical…

A god or spirit manifesting as a burning bush, or a white dove. that speaks fluently comes across as something more professional.
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>>97009021
>he doesn’t want to be fucked by the spirit of the Lord
Gay
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Race: Bipedal (Human)

Strengths/Weaknesses: +Attuned, +Mystical, +Darkvision, -Weak

Weapons: Harpoon Head, Bell

Class: Arsenal

Specializations: Master Necromancy, Advanced Flesh-Shaping, Basic Life Magic, Basic Vengeful Souls

Education: School

Skills: Ancient Languages, First Aid, Curse Breaking

Traits: Lord of the Undead, Fate-Touched (Lord of the Undead), Self-Control, Spirit Medium

Item: Spellcaster's Ring

Faction: None

Dungeon: Prison

>>97008991
I liked the update. I will still stick with Arsenal regardless. Honestly seems to me that the CYOA would've been better with just allowing everyone to make their own custom class instead of having a list of prebuilt ones. Still great however.
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>>97008991
Arsenal is the only fun class, the rest are too restrictive.
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Jesus is inside all of us. We’re all shaman. :)
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>>97009036
Why only 4 traits?
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>>97008991
Please don't. Just don't.
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>>97009065
Temperance is a virtue.
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>>97009036
You have a good point

I think I'll add branches to the various class abilities to give more choices to people, like picrel

It'll be a shitload more work though
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>>97004749
Shopping list cyoa
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>>97008991
Other classes have unwanted specializations (example: who the fuck cares about basic summons?). Arsenal has no such problem.
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>>97009093
And that's a good thing
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>>97008991
It won't change anything.
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>>97009065
Most traits are garbage.
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>>97009086
answer meee >>97008385
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>>97009086
That would be way too much work IMO. How about something along the lines of:
- Choose 2 classes.
- You can now choose 4 abilities out of 8 that those 2 classes give you.
- Now name your OC donutsteel class and flavor it (Warrior + Barbarian could be Juggernaut, Vampire + Warrior could be Death Knight etc., basically gives players more freedom and encourages creativity)
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>>97009137
>abilities
I meant specializations
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>>97009137
>Choose 2 classes.
You could have stopped there. That's enough, this cyoa badly needs positive things. Not everything needs to be a fucking sidegrade.
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>show my tabletop group some cyoas
>talk about my builds
>they say this almost word for word
Pain.
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Jesus is kind of hot ngl
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>>97009153
Choosing from 2 pools of abilities is a massive fucking upgrade, anon, what are you even smoking
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>>97009159
Even your friends realized that you have shit taste in CYOAs, anon, time for a big change
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>>97009137
'just make the class yourself' would be extremely lame.
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>>97009159
Why would you show people something this pathetic
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>>97009177
"just choose 1 thing" is lamer IMO. What's your build?
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>>97009176
What cyoas won't make me a laughing stock when presenting the medium to strangers?
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>>97009164
Yes, but it's not enough, just give us 2 classes.
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>>97009189
None.
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>>97009189
Honest answer?
Some "choose your powers from Harry Potter" Reddit slop, basic bitches love franchiseslop-adjacent things
Objectively correct answer?
Skeleton Gang Rape
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>>97009184
this one >>97008743. I much prefer predefined to just making stuff up.
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>>97009189
Simple things from reddit.
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>>97009206
Could just give some kind of boost if you single-class while still allowing people to choose.
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>>97009137
>That would be way too much work IMO
It'll be more fun though
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>>97008991
>I think I'll add
....should i wait for another update before working on my build?
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>>97009231
Welp, see you in a year
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>>97004749
>Abjuration
>Mana Shield
>Magnetic Field
>Repel Flesh
>block some things, let everything else through
>Imprison
>blocks everything
Basic ability invalidates 3 others, including an intermediate and an advanced, in its own class. How ridiculous. No wonder Arsenal is so popular.
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>>97009253
That's what you get when you hyperspecialize. It works in real life too, nobody can fix their fucking pipes or change a tire nowadays.
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>>97004749
People are sleeping on cantrips. Imagine how useful a Druidism, Alchemy, Divine Steed, Empowerment, or any Paladin cantrip could be.
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>>97004749
how would a fate touched succubus companion be compared to a normal succubus? in the fate touched description says you get double the positive effects, does that mean that you get 2 succubi? or your succubus becomes 2 times hotter and more powerful?
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>>97009306
Irrelevant because you die from double snu-snu
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>>97009253
Imprison can be broken though, and only works on individuals.
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>>97009306
Take it and find out
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>>97009306
You explode.
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>>97009306
2 succubi

>>97009237
Probably not I am back to wageslavery

>>97009294
Yeah I kind of forgot how OP as shit they can be given some of the basic mana abilities can offer a lot of utility
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>>97009086
You’re way overcorrecting to solve the inherent problem of Arsenal. And, unfortunately, you’re two versions deep so you can’t nerf or remove it at this point. Best you can do is make sure each class has something that makes them worth taking as a whole, because I think Arsenal is so popular due to the specializations being better on their own.
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>>97006365
Give me the wealth.
Not like anyone else will notice more despair in this world, but with it I can help those I do care about.
If I had a problem with hurting others for my own comfort, I'd be vegan
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>>97006365
Skill. "always" means eternity.
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>>97009346
>inherent problem of Arsenal
Arsenal has no inherent problems. It is the other classes that are not good enough.
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>>97009394
So much this.
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>>97008965
God can't smite me because he already died of old age
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>>97009137
Just being able to drop one ability tree for another would be enough. Every class has at least one tree that isn't even worth going basic in.
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>>97009534
Tree tier list when?
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>>97009545
Number 1: The Larch
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>>97004749
>>97004211
Changed my build up pretty significantly. Being a jack of all trades skill monkey just isn't as fulfilling when you can take a well balanced party in that regard. Also the drawback for 'skilled' is pretty severe.

Went for more of an Arcane Warrior build (reminds me of my DA:O character) rather than my traveling adventurer from V1.

Would someone mind double checking and making sure my build is valid with Battlemage? Pretty sure it is but I'm afraid I'm reading it wrong.

Race: Bipedal
Racial Strengths:
- Strong
- Enduring
- Attuned
Racial Weaknesses:
- Hungry

Starting Gear:
- Marlinspike
- Bell

Class: Arsenal
- Empowerment (Master)
- Fighting Spirit (Advance)
- Curse (Basic)
- Life Drain (Intermediate)

Background: City
Skills:
- Morale Boost
- Negotiation
- Locksmithing
- Maintenance

Traits:
- Battlemage
- Everyman
- Heavy Weapons Scion
- Stormhearted
- Specialized
- Heavy Sleeper
- Fast Metabolism

Items: Rabbit's Foot

Faction: The Brotherhood of Benevolence

First Dungeon: The Caves

Companions:
- Hiyori
- Grimir Broadhoof
- Korgalda
- Lady Myserix Honeyglor the Fourth

>>97009294
Yeah there are a lot of options that don't translate to 'raw power' that are worth taking for their felxability.

>>97009036
Nice build and presentation. I should do something like this.

>>97008694
Yeah same. But pretty much all of the classes have a specialization or two I just don't care for.

Also having each companion be one of the listed classes makes them seem less unique? idk.

>>97008182
I think Vamp and Engineer are pretty good. Monk and Warden aren't bad either.

>>97007598
Naisu Builderu

>>97006982
Yeah, being able to drop one of your specializations completely to get a +1 level in one of your remaining three.
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>>97009646
I don't think you need heavy weapon psion if you just have empowerment
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>>97009101
>who the fuck cares about basic summons
Honestly Scion would benefit largely from summons so they can distract enemies so scion can sneak around and get in backstabs.

But again, this is achievable with Arsenal.

>>97009086
If you're considering revamping how classes work in a theoretically v3 I'd suggest looking at Surinicals Metastatic. Really enjoyed class crafting in that one.

>>97009771
I'd argue that you do. Otherwise it wouldn't be a Scion trait. I think the class assumes that you use smaller weapons and this trait is for the rare few that trained with bigger weapons.
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>>97004749
Abjurer, got defence, offence, crowd control, anti mage, and mana regen all in one.
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>>97009189
Button pushers always get a lot of genuine interest, in my experience.
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TroyX was decent. Sometimes even great
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>>97009994
He was too formulaic
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>>97009994
The GREATEST.
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>>97009996
Nothing bad about that. Italics is too.
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>>97010007
True, but italics offers more variety in settings, while troyxs were very much palateswapping the same themes and everything.
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>>97009189
Pill pickers or button pushers. That is as far as the medium goes with TRUE normals. But if we are talking about weebs that know nothing of cyoas, you can get away with a simple 1 pager that asks them what anime power they would rather get, with a bunch of images of anime protags. Then you can slowly push them down the cyoa hole.
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>>97004720
I think cyoas are making my fear of death worse by giving me a fantasy where I don't die. Same for being single.
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>>97004749
Armored Juggernaut

>Race
Bipedal

>Racial Strengths
Strong
Enduring
Tough
Tall
Surge (Physical)
Cantrip-Cleric (Protection Aura)

>Racial Weaknesses
Slow Healer
Disrupted
Mundane
Obsession-War

>Starting Gear
Marlin Spike
Barrel Lid

>Class
Warrior
Weapon Mastery: Intermediate
Fighting Spirit: Mastery
Tactical Mastery: Intermediate
Battle Forging: Advanced

>Background
School

>Skills
Logistics
Maintenance
First Aid

>Traits
March on the Stomach
Sentinel
Thorough Digestion
Demolisher
Thrill-Seeker
Potion Connoisseur
Nasty Disposition
Sadist

>Item
Replenishing Flask

>Faction
The Fellowship of the Fearless

>Dungeon
The Spire

>Companions
Multiplayer

I decided to make that alternate warrior build I was thinking about. My Arsenal is definitely more powerful, but this is more thematic to me and isn’t as crippled by drawbacks. A tank with good aggro ability who can protect his allies. Thinking about the stat boosting embers I decided to be a bit leaner on racial strengths and bonus traits as I can slowly cover my deficits. I do need some magical potency to really come into my own and eventually wield engineer exoskeletons and feel the “Simple” trait is terrible as a result but it's still a secondary consideration and even then, I won’t need a huge mana pool to selectively benefit from it either. Same thing with speed, I am not specced in it but can eventually get to a respectable level (also by avoiding the horrific “Slow and Steady” trait).
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>>97009189
>What cyoas won't make me a laughing stock when presenting the medium to strangers?
No sex, no gender swapping/BTG, no mention of being a demon.

If they're already CYOA-adjacent, like into TTRPGs or video games, I'd go with some of the more artistic/high concept ones. Nxtub's Hospital/Paranormal Debt Collector/Honor Among Thieves, or Highlander's Traveller's Tale, maybe some of Tankista's or Languid Cicada's . . . You're looking for something aesthetically pleasing, with a plot that they can imagine being adated into their geeky hobby of choice.
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>>97009189
Anything by Tok. Go all in.
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>>97010145
You want him to suicide socially?
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>>97010148
Socially?
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>>97010145
>>97010148
I stopped following Dragonfall around version 1.6, but at least at that point, I'd say it would be pkay.
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>>97009189
Always felt the Guardians CYOA is a good starter for noobs. Heavenly Kitchen Realm if they like Cultivation.
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Thoughts on hard limits on how many spells you can learn?
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>>97010196
What, like fucking Danmachi? Fuck no.
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>>97010196
>hard limits
>on learning something
why
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>>97010205
Sometimes you only get three or four cool abilities anon. There's nothing wrong with that.
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>>97010215
yeah but you probably should call it learning in that case
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>>97010196
Don't limit my wish fulfillment fantasy.
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Because of aromage, I am now scared of women. Are all women as evil as her?
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>>97010215
well yeah, there are choices for cyoa purposes, but I'm just saying... if it's knowledge or learning based you should theoretically be able to learn all things given enough time and study
>>97010238
calling that creature a woman is pretty exaggerated. think of Aro like a dinosaur. there's no need to be afraid of chickens or tiny lizards just because Aro is a fatassosaurus.
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>>97010238
One could argue that all women see men as expendable and worthy to be sacrificed. In nature this is common. Males in species don't eat the female after fertilization (duh), but the female may eat the male post fertilization.
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>>97010196
Retarded. Is an undetectable omnipotent god mind controlling everyone to stop them from learning? Lol.
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>>97010205
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>>97010243
All humans are born with eight spell squares. No more, no less. If you accidentally learn [Jizz Bolt] as one of your eight spells, that's your fault.
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>>97010258
jizz bolt is all I need, but if it's based on slots what is enforcing the slots? why can't I learn jizz bolt 8 times and then learn shid skid? what is the arbitrary mechanism by which this is enforced
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>>97010196
>Thoughts on hard limits on how many spells you can learn?
That's how real life works.
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>>97010252
My eyes have been opened
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>>97010258
No. You can make more spell squares. The cyoa doesn't tell you this, but think about it.
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>>97010258
>If you accidentally learn [Jizz Bolt]
Is that used by guys to attack? Or is it used to incapacitate them?
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>>97010289
this anon has the mind of a true mage
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>>97010272
You can only learn a spell once. It would be redundant if you could learn them a second time.
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Anyone got the update to final spell?
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>>97009781
Damn, those abilities are pretty cool

I might redo it to be more like it, it is pretty neat
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For the love of god Ordion just let us pick 2-3 classes again. I hate only being one class.
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>>97009346
>the specializations being better on their own.
Super true of the vampire abilities. They are great but have ZERO synergy with each other.
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>>97010443
>I HATE specializing and not being a middling jack of all trades not actually good at anything!
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>>97010539
>I HATE giving players options
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>>97010574
You already have dozens of options. The problem is that you don't want to make meaningful choices. Multi-classing undermines the entire premise. A Mutant/Warden/Abjurer mix is a neutered nothingburger of a powerset.
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>>97004749
A major problem is that the abilities of classes that are supposed to be extremely versatile are made unbelievably limited.
>Evocation can only make blasts, walls, bigger blasts, and magic buff
>Alchemy can only make healing, acidic, explosive, physical/magical buffing, and gold only transmutation potions
They're like hands with 4 fingers cut off.
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>>97010258
nah, don't add bullshit to humans because you're not inventing humans, instead add bullshit to your magic system because that's what you're inventing
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>>97010661
The magic system told me that it will only let you learn eight spells total because humans will have an aneurysm if they learn a ninth
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>>97008022
>All of them, because (You) and (Waifu) are going through endless reincarnations.
>Polaris, Charlotte, Pasille, Zynthia, Dido, Alta, Narra-chan - that's her builds.
It would be nice. A love that transcends death and cyoas.
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>>97010696
Just learn the brain regeneration spell
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>>97010713
Girls 2-5 are all lost causes thoughbeit.
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>>97010713
Charlotte is a tranny though
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>>97010713
One of her lives is Zynthia. Read the signs.
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>>97010750
This particular Zynthia yeah
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>>97010719
Nah just grow a second brain
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God I want to hurt so many anime MCs it’s unreal
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>>97010443
Multi-classing costs too many experience points. (You) need to get good, fast.
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>>97010696
nah, you need to put the limitation in the magic system, not in the human
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>>97010821
(You) do want (your) build to survive, right?
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>>97010823
Nah the human bwain too weak :(
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>>97010696
Yeah, well, the magic system should let you be able to retract your chosen spells, and wizards should be able to slot in/out spells from spellbooks at their leisure.
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>>97010842
Event Rewards
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dee en dee is retarded

>read spell
>memorize spell
>cast spell
>forget spell
>repeat

would an ai malfunction if it tried to cast a spell?
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>>97010843
Other than D&D, is there any game system that lets you do that?
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>>97010852
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>>97010856
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>>97010861
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>>97010852
It didn't really start with d&d
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>>97010866
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>>97010868
>It didn't really start with d&d
Oh? Where does the learn/use/forget system come from?
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>>97010821
>>97010827
>>97010830
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>>97010835
>>97010842
>>97010846
I liked the ninja/samurai one more
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>>97010906
>liked the ninja/samurai one more
I haven't actually seen it. Do you have a copy handy?
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>>97010927
Secrets
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>>97010748
>Charlotte is a tranny though
Was that ever confirmed? For some reason, I'm thinking that Tankista never confirmed it either way.
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>>97010939
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>>97010748
That's not how it works. If someone literally becomes a biological woman with magic mumbo jumbo, then they're a woman, not trans. There's no such thing as a gendered soul.
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>>97010927
https://old.reddit.com/r/makeyourchoice/comments/185ew3w/samurai_cyoa/
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>>97010184
>Always felt the Guardians CYOA is a good starter for noobs.
I could even see it being adapted as a MMORPG one day.
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>>97010982
After all, is the set up really that different from World of Warcraft?
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>>97010987
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>>97011002
You're just choosing Guardians vs. Forces of Darkness, instead of Alliance v. Horde.
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>>97010987
I totally could. Hell ESO made the fricken Titan the bad guy in this trailer https://youtu.be/XaI-EOVpDvo?si=kNj-YPkpFMHQZAR_

And fans decided he should be called the "nameless knight".
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>>97010970
I've always liked the idea of having a squire or apprentice in Guardians, and I've got a couple of quiet days coming up . . .

If I slap together a one page "Squires" fan DLC, anyone have any candidate suggestions?
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>>97011030
Nice cinematic, but the armor for Faceless Knight and Beard Guy are a little too similar to truly enjoy the grappling scene.
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>>97010630
I think the class abilities are just extras or enhancements to things that can already be done. Otherwise, the situation is too ridiculous.
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>>97010927
sakura-no-kami makes me diamonds
imagine getting tricked into marriage by a scheming spirit that then whisks you away from the world to rape for all eternity
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>>97004749
>Serpentine

>Extra Arms
>Cantrip (Elemental Cloak)
>Surge x2
>Agile
>Tall

>Hungry*
>Obsession
>Limited (Cold)
>Delicate Back
>Slow Healer
>Restricted Diet (Herbivory)

>Harpoon Head
>Barrel Lid

>Arsenal
>-Metamorphosis (Basic)
>-Spirit Warriors (Basic)
>-Spines (Advanced)
>-Dragon Fury (Master)

>Dungeon Tribe

>Dungeon Lore*
>Survival
>Morale Boost

>Arsenal
>-Blueblood
>Mutant
>-Spiderblooded
>Occultist
>-Celestial
>Common
>-Spirit Medium
>-Heavy Sleeper
>-Fast Metabolism
>-Glutton

>Replenishing Flask

>The Spire

>Alcheon
>Korgalda
>Grimir Broadhoof
>Lady Myserix Honeyglow the Fourth
I gave up. Next one will be better. Thanks Ordion for staying a lodestar of /cyoag/
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>>97010630
Sounds to me like it was done for balance reasons otherwise they would be far more useful than other classes, especially the pure martial classes
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>>97010630
I suspect it's a remnant style from the days when Ordion made moba cyoas with 0 concern for real logic. His options kept being, no, are extremely similar to moba character skills in the worst way possible.

>>97011086
They're probably not extras or enhancements but examples. A supposed "master alchemist" can only make 6 potions—utter retardation. It's clearly supposed to be that an alchemist can make potions of increasing potency and complexity, and the listed potions are examples of what can be done at the respective levels.
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>>97011109
Yea it's totally in line with what other classes can do. Speaking of video game logic, let's not forget that healing and mana potions are God toer bullshit items.
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>>97011132
>It's clearly supposed
Headcanon
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>>97011179
This is headcanon general, unironically.
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>>97011109
That's stupid, and it would mean everyone in the setting is stupid as well. All the companions know those abilities specifically, and only them. Variety? They have never heard of it. A smooth brain world. Anons with 100 IQ would be geniuses. They can invent potions other than the original 6! Who knew that innovation was possible? Certainly not the stupid natives.
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>>97011210
Aren't they stranded on a isolated island? It's not like they can just get rare ingredients and the latest issue of Potion Maker's Quarterly shipped in via Amazon, you know.
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>>97011210
>>97011247
The alchemist class skill allows for modifying existing potions. Making fresh ones is actually under the first aid skill and anyone can learn it.
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>>97010015
>True, but italics offers more variety in settings,
Name 4 CYOAs of his that have different settings.
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>>97011270
NTA, but Apocrypha Advent is post-apocalyptic vampire. Pokemon Personified is an isekai hybrid of Ultima and Pokemon. Magi Case is a hybrid of X-Files and the Nasuverse. Colossian is not!Mega Man. Then there's Kins Wolfe, Eternal Blue, Spiral City (or whatever the magic-pink tower cyoa was . . .)

He's also got a bunch of waifu pickers in different settings, such as Regent and Post-Story Waifu.
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>>97011270
On the other hand, almost all of Big Al/Troy X's cyoas are in the Veiled Earth setting, excluding the occasional oddball gem like Grimlewd.
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Threadtranny!!!!
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>>97011292
>magic-pink tower cyoa
Magic-punk, not pink
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Anyone in a good spot to make a new thread? We're on Page Ten.

(Thank you in advance.)
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>>97011308
sure
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>>97011316
don't do it, let us finally die
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>>97011210
Hag apothecaries can already brew other potions, your a low to mid rank adventurer, you have a limited skillset as described by your specializations, everyone starts at the same baseline want new abilities your going to need to learn them like everyone else. Giving vague and broad abilities to one class is pretty much the same as just giving them more abilities in one slot. Its far easier to balance by giving self contained abilities than opening the can of worms that is giving everyone vague stuff. These self contained powers clearly show the power level of each tier of mastery and allows one to gauge the possible effort of learning similar scale abilities.
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>>97011317
That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons, even death can die.
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>>97011247
Knowledge =/= availability. And you're saying that an island with such variety of environments and inhabitants only has the ingredients for 6 types of potion.

>>97011257
Oh my god, the entire alchemist line doesn't actually contain making the healing potion. Or mana potion. No option in the cyoa has making the mana potion. Hahaha, I feel like I'm going insane from how insane all this is.

Sigh, I suppose I can only ignore these absurdities and assume a more plausible scenario.
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>>97010948
>gendered soul
There is, your soul's gender is what you were born as in the previous life, if we go by OR rules and firstly, state that you can choose your gender on the second incarnation and secondly, that you will remember everything from your past life. If you want to change genders and not be a tranny you need to erase your memories, aka factory reset your mind.

>chooses to be woman despite being man in the past life = tranny
>chooses to be man despite being woman in the past life = tranny
>chooses to be the same gender as you were in your past life = not tranny

If she's not a pure 100% female woman who has been a woman in both lives, you are gay for liking them and said person in question is a tranny. Fortunately, most people in OR are not reincarnators so this is a moot question as their soul's gender is whatever they were born as. But straying from the path once makes you a tranny. This is forgivable if you reincarnate forever and keep your memories every single time to the point where everything starts to blur together, but that's moving beyond the boundaries of OR.

Anyhow, it doesn't make a difference IRL because souls and reincarnation isn't real.
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>>97011321
Right, right, everyone from completely different backgrounds know the exact same things as everyone else with the same level of skill, as imposed by the cyoa. The snake hater and disgraced noble learned the exact same things.
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>>97011349
>>97010948
Isn't this beside the point when we have no reason to think Charlie wasn't a woman on Earth?
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>>97011349
but by this logic if an actual tranny IRL reincarnated into OR they would no longer be a tranny in OR because their soul gender identity would align to their new body. So if Charlotte was a tranny in her previous life she would be considered a women in OR by your logic.
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>>97011349
Unreal to me that this guy is so obsessed with and triggered by trannies that he dreams up metaphysics to support his grudge even when he doesn't fucking believe in souls.
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>>97011359
yup, that is how games work, everyone is around similar levels for game balancing reasons, there is a certain gamification you need to accept while playing a cyoa. Quite similar to DnD, where a orphan beggar warrior would be around the same strength as a noble scion warrior
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>>97011397
yeah its so retarded, that it seems to wants your OR character to transition to your "real" gender of your soul. Which kinda loops back into a pro trans argument. Trannyanon is probably just a closet transgender.
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>>97011385
If Charlotte was a tranny in her previous life she would be a tranny even now. Their soul gender would NOT align with their body because they were born male on earth, and I assume earth is where the soul for reincarnators is formed. You can literally choose your gender in OR. Choosing to pick something you were not indicates you were a wannabee tranny on earth.

>>97011410
>OR character to transition to your "real" gender of your soul
Any kind of transitioning is tranny. You either stay in your lane or you are tranny. I can forgive it if you've reincarnated a billion times and you're looking for something fresh just to introduce some spice to the dull haze, but that's not how it works in OR and is thus beyond the scope of the discussion.

Anyhow all this is a moot point, as I simply assume that all previous outsiders simply picked the gender of their original body. Charlotte was probably a girl on earth, as were all the other female outsiders, while all the male outsiders were guys. I doubt Tank put much thought into it, but seeing as he's Russian I have a feeling he's probably confirm it.
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>>97011429
okay explain this hypothetical to me. A man reincarnates into a women in OR and then trough magic turns themselves into a man do they count as a tranny in your eyes?
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Aren't you just arguing over definitions of "tranny" rather than anything of substance? But in different context, a word can have different meanings. I think both your definitions are perfectly fine.
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how many of you are actually trannies
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>>97011437
No, because that would be full circle. The only instance in which transitioning does not result in a tranny because that's just a full 360 revolution. I'll assume the magic is thorough and gets them to the genetic level, because if the magic isn't perfect it's tranny.

>>97011439
I guess you're right. Honestly, I doubt that any of the Outsiders were opposite genders in the old world. What do you think is more likely - that they were their chosen gender on earth and any idiosyncrasies are the result of them being tomboys (very common) or trannies (incredibly small percentage of the population)?
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>>97011410
Most people who are utterly, hopelessly obsessed like this are.
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>>97011349
I can see the logic, but Charlotte's past gender isn't talked aboout which makes the point moot.
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>>97010539
This is not how humans work. Hyper-specialization actually makes you Worse at your dedicated topic. You need mastery of a number of related and not-obviously related fields to innovate in a field of study.
For example: meta-material chemistry got stuck for Years because it didn't have enough experience in the field of mathematically calculating the different ways to tie knots.
Humans are also very shit at hyper-focusing on one topic long enough to continuously train it. The human brain literally shuts off neural connections your overuse for too long(measured in minutes). So for the same reason you'll get words stuck "at the tip of your tongue" if you use them too much, you can't grind a specific study to get good at it.
>TL;DR: IRL Humans can only get-gud by multiclassing. Single-classers are skrubs IRL.



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