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>Bans (new)
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>News
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>WotC's War Crimes
https://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)
https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)

>Previously
>>97010907

>TQ
What is your favorite life gain card?
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>>97020588
>TQ
Insane amounts of soul
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>tq
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>>97020595
rip soul sisters
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Thread Question
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> TQ
A good amount of pauper's balance is reliant on this card's ability to cuck red decks
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>tq
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>TQ
Twilight Prophet, easily
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ATLA status?
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>>97020629
Badgermole Cub guilty of several warcrimes
fun limited environment
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>>97020634
>fun limited environment
The only thing that matters, ATLA won
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>>97020639
well it's day 2. we'll see if Fire Nation Cadets goes too crazy and makes it cancerous, I don't have my eye on many other cards. but it's all told a high synergy set where a lot of archetypes sort of bleed into each other and the decks you can build go beyond just choosing the card in your color pair that's best in a vacuum
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>>97020652
>a high synergy set where a lot of archetypes sort of bleed into each other and the decks you can build go beyond just choosing the card in your color pair that's best in a vacuum
So yeah, ATLA won
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>>97020629
Still shitbrewing Grixis midrange. Been trying instants with different modes for flexibility. When the stars align, Azula is rather busted.
You don't have blockers? Then Azula attacks for 4 + 2 + 2 and discard 2 with KCom.
Warp in the Riddler. Azula copies Three Steps and you get draw 3 and 8/12 flying power on the field for for 6.
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Hey everyone, I would like to say that Momo, Friendly Flier is my Brawl Commander. I was a prickly pear about this Avatar set, but I eventually found something to like. I brewed a pretty sweet deck and did not just copy/paste an entire decklist, which is uncommon for me. If one person replies positively I will post the decklist. Thanks for reading my post /tg/, and have a wonderful day.
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>>97020672
azula is so fucking hot jesus christ
magic is saved, bros
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>>97020688
>all it takes to be hot is a girl making eye contact with you
wew
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>>97020744
not so fast!
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the powercreep will continue until the game improves
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>>97020760
>not even using the right green creature
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>>97020760
>>97020769
Nothing bothers me more than powercreeping shit like this in a ub set
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I stay at 7
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>>97020760
That's worse though. Brontodon was playable because it's a 3/4 body for 3 even when you don't need to destroy something.
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>>97020760
>>97020769
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Stop lusting after evil psychotic teen girls.
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>>97020604
I love this little nigga like you wouldn’t believe
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>>97020818
this is not even close to being a 1:1 comparison
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>>97020819
No.
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>>97020864
Holy shit they are ugly
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>>97020849
yeah it's even better
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>>97020928
it costs 2x as much mana anon, it better be better.
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>>97020940
if you play and sacrifice it in the same turn it costs the same, plus the human has flash
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>>97020944
>if
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>>97020897
Get fuuuucked!
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>>97020949
>I need to remove an artifact/enchantment on turn two
hopefully opponent does not have removal on t1 or you don't play a tapland
at least brontodon and the cathar have better stats
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>>97020959
>vampire on the left with the third eye and the one on the right with an eye on her chest
holy AI
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>>97020976
emrakul's tentacles typed this post
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>>97020976
yeah why would there be weird body parts in the block that was about eldritch monstrosities?
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So I bought a couple boxes of Avatar Jumpstart packs so I can teach new people how to play. Today I realized I don't know anybody I can teach how to play. Do you guys know how to find new people who I can help learn to play?
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>>97020760
POWERFUL
WHITE
CARDS
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>>97021051
maybe check with your local game store if they want to set up an event where new players can learn MtG
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>>97021061
Everybody that goes there already learned how to play though...
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>>97021078
maybe check other stores.
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>>97021078
Maybe speak with the owner and you can organize a event for newcomers.
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can I see other cases of strict upgrades over the years?
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I've just heard they functionslly changed some old cards to make them easier to use on a computer.
Do we know how much money does Arena/MTGO make to warrent cucking the real game for them?
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>>97021238
source? what cards?
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>>97021223
naturalize has been seeing a lot of strictly better iterations
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>>97021251
https://gatherer.wizards.com/ZEN/en-us/178/rampaging-baloths
Read the new oracle text.
They removed the "May" from the ability, just so you don't have to click Yes/No on Arena.
This is a small, but nerf, since simetimes you get punished for having more creatures/creatures enter
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>>97021269
still says may on my machine
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>>97021223
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>>97021261
also
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>>97021287
nvm had to hit the oracle
damn son, that actually fucking sucks.
>reading the card does not explain the card
one job wotc. ONE JOB!
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>>97021269
>just so you don't have to click Yes/No on Arena.
anon there's a yield all option. There has to be another reason.
>some shit dev forgot his triggers and changed the rules over it
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will chocobo boosters be sold separately or is the chocobo bundle the only way to get one?
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what formats are actually fun to play in paper these days?
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>>97021269
This is exactly the kind of thing that validates my hate for wotc. It's like they don't even understand their own game anymore.
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Shit designers only powercreep. Good designers make new archetypes and good mechanics.
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unbans when
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>>97021591
What if i use the 1st ability when jeet isn't attached?
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>>97021591
After playing canlander for a few months, I never want to see this card again.
Go and stay gone forever.
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>>97021288
Look at the rumble arena bro.
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>>97021610
it would be extremely painful
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>>97021621
No.
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>>97021436
Cube, sealed, draft, Dandan, kitchen-table, some random house-rules format only played by you and your friends.
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>>97021436
Jumpstart is fun
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>>97021610
you just lose the counter
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>>97020588
>TQ
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anyone got a gramgram/accumulated brew?
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>>97021436
draft, cube
pauper even
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>>97021610
you get to boost any creature equipped with anything
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>>97021733
I like her big sister
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>>97020588
>a gear sticking out of a jello mold
really stretches the mind to imagine what future cuisine is like, eh?
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>>97021734
I can steal an izzet build from a streamer if you'd like. otters bounce I think
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>>97021736
The ability can be used any time Umezawa’s Jitte’s controller has priority — only the “target creature” choice has additional requirements. Choosing the “Equipped creature gets +2/+2 until end of turn” mode does nothing if the Jitte isn’t equipped to a creature when the ability resolves.
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>>97021776
does the +2/+2 stick on the jitte, like if you equipped a creature with it after activation then that creature gets the +2/+2
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>>97021798
no it has to be on a creature when it resolves
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Why was return to new phyrexia such a flop?
All the art is less cool.
All the mechanics are lame and watered down.
They even put normal and phyrexain mana together in card costs like some 12 year old making custom cards
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>>97021842
Don't forget that the story was total shit.
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>>97021847
Well yeh, but that's becasue they removed the block format in favour of 1-off sets, so it all got 1-shot Wakanda-ed in MoM
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>>97021842
>They even put normal and phyrexain mana together in card costs like some 12 year old making custom cards
FOEGOD REDEEMED
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how long until a Foegod UB?
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>>97021877
In the era of makng every card text as shotrened as possible, why did WotC remove the "ublockable" keyword?
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>>97021917
>why did WotC remove the "ublockable" keyword?
I believe because it was too rare to really be keyworded.
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>>97021387
I'm pretty sure it's the second option.
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>>97021436
Pauper, draft and cube
Modern too, in certain doses
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>>97021906
He should have the following instead

"God creatures lose indestructible and hexproof."
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>>97021977
Anon.
You do not correct Foegod.
Foegod corrects you.
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>>97021877
NIGGA THATS NUTS
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>Foegod mentioned
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>>97020588
Ok so why the are all life counter die black now? I remember back then when I stopped playing (Tarkir) we got a myriad of color combinations. Wtf is the reasoning behind this one?
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>>97022017
>Ok so why the are all life counter die black now? I remember back then when I stopped playing (Tarkir) we got a myriad of color combinations. Wtf is the reasoning behind this one?
Reducing production costs.
Money, anon.
It's WotC. The answer is always money. Except when it is incompetence and stupidity. But even then, it's usually stupidity motivated by money.
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play

premodern
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>>97022050
buy

an ad
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>>97022050
WHERE NIGGA>?!
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>>97021917
Because it wasn't a keyword.
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>>97022021
And they faced no backlash or did they just shrug it off?
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>>97022111
>And they faced no backlash or did they just shrug it off?
It was a long time ago. There was backlash but it wasn't big enough to matter since that was long before DFCs and text bloat.
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>>97022121
>long before DFCs
DFCs were before Tarkir.
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>>97022136
I mean DFCs as an excuse for complexity creep.
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>>97022017
>Ok so why the are all life counter die black now?
You know it
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is quantum riddler really a 40 dollar card?
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>>97022213
The digital version on MTGO was going for $170 a couple weeks ago. Its seeing lots of play in modern.
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>>97022253
I played against it a couple of times, it's not a terrible card but I don't know if it's a terrible good card either.
I beat that jeskai blink deck with a shitty mind crank combo deck.
Looking at mtgo top8 its not in a huge amount of decks either, its not exactly snapcaster mage which was 40 bucks for a good reason back in the day.
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>>97022213
Yes, but what I can't understand is Wan Shi Tong being the same price.
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>>97022290
correction: it IS in a huge amount of modern decks, idk why it fetched me only 5 pages of decklists this morning. Its like 10 times that now.
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>>97022292
that's a wait a week situation, supply has not caught up with demand
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>>97022292
Brand new cards are almost always overpriced because everyone is still trying to get the new set.
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Dear citizens......
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>>97022403
THATS ME!
IM A CITIZEN!
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>Tales of the success of Magic: the Gathering’s Final Fantasy set may sound greatly exaggerated, but they are not. It was the fastest-selling Magic expansion ever, to the point that distributors and retailers experienced significant product shortages.
>To wit: A Final Fantasy collector booster currently sells for over $120 at tgcplayer.com, and a collector box goes for over $1,300. Those resale prices pale in comparison to the news that dropped some days ago from Hasbro’s Q2 financial results: Magic: the Gathering - Final Fantasy produced over $200 million in revenue in just one day, the owner of Wizards of the Coast said. The record was previously held by The Lord of the Rings: Tales of Middle-earth set, which took six months to reach that number.
Ughhh, and /tg/ still complain that Wizards of the Coast are woke and gonna go broke?
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>>97021842
>They even put normal and phyrexain mana together in card costs like some 12 year old making custom cards
This literally is the only way to make Phyrexian mana fair though. If you don't put in the color pips it might as well not be there
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>>97022808
They should have changed phyrexian mana to 3 life. And if that wasn't enough, 4 life, then 5, etc.
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>>97022822
That's retarded and doesn't change the fundamental problem with it, that being that any color can pay life.
Anyone can shove Mutagenic Growth or Gut Shot or Git Probe in their deck. That's the fucking problem, the mana pips are free. Simply putting normal mana pips alongside the Phyrexian ones and treating Phyrexian mana as a discount (because it is) was always the way to go.
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>>97022822
Erratas should be kept to a minimum and only on cards that are outright nonfunctional.
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>>97022715
There's literally zero chance of them going back on UB after this, they can tank 10 flops like SPM in a row if it means getting a chance at another LOTR and FF.
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>>97022829
what about phyrexian mana being relegated to colorless?
So you have to pay the colored portion of the cost but can pay the colorless portion for life?
and yes, that would mean a card costs something like
1UUU (phyrexian 1)
instead of
3U (phyrexian U)
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>>97022845
That's basically a different mechanic and the cards would need to be cartoonishly overcosted because, again, everyone can pay life; it'd be Delve but even more busted.
The thing they did was the best approach; Phyrexian mana only goes on abilities (meaning you need to pay the creature's own cost fair and square) and compleated planeswalkers where paying the Phyrexian mana makes the card worse as compensation for the reduced cost, meaning it's reverse kicker. It's fine, it avoids all the problems, and it makes sense in the new context.
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>>97022845
>So you have to pay the colored portion of the cost but can pay the colorless portion for life?
What could go wrong with a card where you can skip the colorless part of it, I wonder?
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>>97022875
>>97022891
ok yes I forgot about the colossal fuckup of shit like delve

my bad
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>>97022842
That's probably their strategy. The paypigs will buy any flop slop; meanwhile, you can reserve all your capital not on investing in good sets every set, but by acquiring IP for another explosive franchise media crossover, like Star Wars MtG or Alien MtG or Cormac McCarthy MtG
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It's called a Non-Disclosure Agreement, you little chuds. And WotC aren't going to let the cat out of the bag by telling some ugly neck beards like you that they're in negotiations with Disney for a Predator Badlands set!
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>>97022901
Can't wait for The Judge to be blacker than a stolen EBT card
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>>97022901
>Cormac McCarthy MtG
That would go crazy I must say.
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>>97022989
>the incarnation of primordial violence is black
Fitting.
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>>97023001
You're right it would never happen
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>>97023001
I mean primordial violence is more gruul or monored then anything
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This card is fire with firebending and firebending student especially. Too bad standard is too fast to enjoy such neat interactions
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>>97023120
I think the more relevant aspect is that it's not legal in standard.
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>>97023144
Didn't even notice despite drafting it. Well, if it was it wouldn't see play
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>>97022829
There's a breaking point somewhere. No one is gonna pay 20 life for gutshot.
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>>97021269
DM'd you the fix.
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>playing modern FNM at my LGS, which allows proxies due to current MTG's retarded single prices.
>Shuffle and present deck to my opponent.
>lose the dice roll, op goes on the play
>T1 play picrel.
What do?
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>>97023334
keep in mind not to shake opp's hand after the match
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>>97020588
I finally got a chance to draft ATLA and holy shit, these cards feel power crept. Half the set is run of the mill draft chaff that I wouldn't blink twice at but some of these uncommons are fucking scary.
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>>97023334
Concede out of respect. Then bust out my fully blinged out futa proxy deck.
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>>97021269
I ignore all errata except that designed to make cards functional under basic game rules. And companions. I'm not just gonna let a corporation that doesn't care about the game anymore to tell me which cards I'm allowed to play as written.
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>>97023179
Yes but by then the cards are unplayable. If you want to errata them into being nonfunctional just ban that shit nigga
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>>97021436
Draft, cube, kitchen table, custom jumpstart decks.
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>>97021436
draft
sealed
premodern if you can find people
modern is kind of a 50/50 between the most boring shit on earth and a pretty fun match
can highlander is pretty fun as well if you can find people
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>>97023466
If 2 is too little and 20 is too much, then there is clearly a point in the middle where there is actually a decision on whether it's worth it to pay the mana or the life.
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>>97021766
sure
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>>97021304
Not on arena, it's the same reason they changed Ajani's Pridemate.
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>>97021917
Unblockable was never a keyword
Indestructible wasnt either.
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Wtf prof donates to tr*ns charities
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>>97023685
Get over it chud
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>>97023665
>Indestructible
>A keyword ability that precludes a permanent from being destroyed
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>>97023639
The problem with Phyrexian mana has never been whether or not it's a valid decision to pay the cost, it's that the goddamn cards can slot into every deck because every deck starts with 20 life. It's a deck homogenization and color pie problem.
Also, going back and errataing a whole mechanic into being completely different is retarded.
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All you FOMO-driven whales are trying to slurp up the best cards, meanwhile I am having the time of my life playing penny dreadful games with poverty-stricken homeless people
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>>97023639
Then they should make a different mechanic to try that out. Erratas must be reserved for cards that are nonfunctional or rules problems.
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>>97023639
The cards were strong because they cost 0 or 1 mana. If you make it 4 life or something like that, git probe might not be busted anymore but now other phyrexian cards are completely unplayable, including any more you might print in the future.
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>>97023743
The issue isn't with the mechanic itself, it's just the usual balancing itself. WotC is just spectacularly bad at making cards that are good but not busted or constructive playable without being draft chaff. Just look at Station for the opposite example.
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>>97023763
Yeah, exactly. No reason to emergency errata the mechanic when there's plenty of cards that work fine with it.
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>>97023659
yes on arena, if you have multiple triggers on the stack there's literally a button that says "Yield to all"
I use it all the time with my brawl deck
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>>97023729
Hey! I'm not homeless, I'm just terminally Dutch.
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>>97023763
No, the mechanic itself is broken because the fundamental concept of it is that you can pay life to ignore mana pips, an inerently broken idea.
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my bad it says "Resolve all"
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>>97023902
>the entire philosophy of Black is an inherently broken idea
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>>97023902
You're "ignoring" the mana pips if the cards were properly tuned. Say
>Act of Aggression
>2R(R | 2 life)
>Instant
>Threaten target, it gains trample until end of turn
If you pay the 2 life then it becomes an Act of Treason (still 3 mana total) with minor upside. It is still strictly a red card.

Here's another example they tried, which again works perfectly fine (i.e. quite underpowered).

Of course, this won't sell packs so instead of designing smartly we have shit like Gitaxian Probe.
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>>97023923
>no hands

How does he even Grisel him brand?!
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>>97023945
Being the incarnation of no nut november is a pathway to many abilities some might consider ... unnatural
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>>97023927
Compleated is an attempt to sidestep the idea by making the card shittier if you paid the price (meaning it is no longer being ignored) and even then, the compleated cards all have heaps of mana pips you *can't* ignore meaning you'll be paying a big price regardless.
>>97023923
Yes, giving every color access to black mechanics is broken as fuck by nature.
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>>97023953
>black is the only color that pays life to do things
you can shitpost better than that, anon
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>>97023959
It's not "paying life for things" it's "pay life to tell the color pie to go fuck itself"
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>>97023951
Some dogs are doggos, some are puppers.
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Shadowmoor pack wars is live on MTGO.
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>>97023951
Half the art is great and the other half is either bisexual lighting or a Kincade painting.
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>>97023951
Why in the actual fuck they made Nu- Lorwyn so GODDAMN GAY, man? What the hell is going on here?
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cheapest way to give my waifu haste?
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>>97024150
They based it on Romantasy to bring in the female audience.
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>>97024244
Cunny cunny cunny cunny cunny chameleonnnn
You're a pedooooo
You're a pedoooooooooo~
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>>97024244
Your waifu is a slut who loves goblin dick
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>>97024150
Sorry, can't have nice things. Everything must been gay.
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>>97024244
This one also gives a nice +4 power
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premodern
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>>97024244
>loli
>wants to be pumped

What did WotC mean with this?
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This draft is fun, but feels B's and flyers are the best
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>>97020588
>"wait, are you telling me a shrimp fried this rice?"
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>>97021917
They had been printing more effects like "Can't be blocked by creatures with power 2 or less" and the like, and wanted to standardize the formatting with conditional and unconditional evasion.
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>>97024511
Anon, shrimp don't fry rice.
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>>97024016
>Half the art is great and the other half is either bisexual lighting or a Kincade painting.
No all the art is awful. The aesthetic of the plane is just totally dead, it's fucking shit.;
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>>97024247
>to bring in the female audience.
SURELY THIS TIME IT WILL WORK
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How complicated should individual cards be?
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There's really no escaping this fucking game this year huh
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>>97024816
Don't they sign NDAs so they don't reveal if there was going to be a "collab" (read: corporate incestuous orgy)
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>>97024244
Tried to give her a sukumizu with IA, this is as far I could go before it refuse to go further.
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Ally standard deck is fun
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>forced into mulligan
>draw 2 spells and 8 land
>draft run is over, -1500 gems
I'd have shot my hapless shitter opponent in the head if he were in the same room as me a
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>>97024800
>First Strike instead of Double Strike
Garbage
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Divide by Zero is so sick now
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>>97020588
>TQ
https://scryfall.com/card/m12/24/lifelink
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>>97024800

not the craziest t3 play, but kinda ridiculous that it barely sees play
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I want to try Pauper on MTGO. The decks are cheap to rent from Cardhoarder. Is the format fun?
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>>97025124
They just banned the solitaire deck so you dont have to watch some fag jerk off for 10 minutes doing their loops. That said, I hope you love seeing Jund Wildfire, Affinity and blue based Tolarian Terror decks all day
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>>97023927
so how did tamiyo get compleated and then un-compleated in the end again?
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>>97025124
Yeah it is. There's tons of decks you can play that stand up to the meta, it just can be hard to brew since the format is somewhat high power.
Some of my recent favorites have been black sack and this token deck:
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7386951#paper
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>>97025319
Tamiyo died by getting oneshot.
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>>97024673
>>97025107
Shrimp fry rice
https://youtu.be/1U0M7twGsaw?t=23
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>>97025215
>>97025335

Is Dimir Faeries fun? It looks fun.
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>>97025672
yeah and probably gets better with this new avatar card having infinite synergy with sneaky snacker
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>>97024903
thanks for reminding me
I need to buy a playset of every learn card on MTGO
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>>97025682
Why does fairy eating things interact with card draw (clue abiity) and not life gain (food ability)?
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>>97025762
because drawing cards is blue and gaining life is not
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>>97025762
Because her return has been drawn out in time due to gluttony.
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Avatar draft is kind of fun...
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Avatar draft is kinda dogshit, I love losing to bonus sheet bombs
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>>97024247
>>97024679
>it's episode where big corporation tries to chase new untapped audiences
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>>97025833
Why did you let your opponent get to 7 mana?
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>>97025950
Bombs are 3-4 mana
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>>97025956
Right, sorry. That clone in the bonus sheet really fucks the draft environment up, huh?
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>>97025982
Some cards are just megapushed
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>>97022292
People are trying to get 4 copies for vegas and they haven't opened enough.
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>>97025982
Just wait until your board gets hit by a blasphemous act
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i cant stand avatar bros…
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>>97026167
Stop playing commander
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Is there a place that's kind of like a decent repository of custom cards (text, not reskins) to browse?
Quick context is that my TCG group has a christmas party and we want to pit autistic customs against each other in a voting game for fun IE pull up a random card and vote for which custom would have the best synergy with it. Google images isn't cutting it for me though.
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>>97025873
>Finally audience the fabled female audience
>Look inside
>Woman (male)
>Woman (male)
>Woman (male)
>The list goes on...
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>>97024247
>They based it on Romantasy to bring in the female audience.
WHY NOT MAKE A NEW PLANE THEN
WHY DO YOU HAVE TO RUIN A CLASSIC PLANE
JUST MAKE A NEW FUCKING PLANE
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>>97024150
>Bolas gets free
>Plane turns gay
Gee, I dunno anon.
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>>97024247
>romantasy
we getting a milking farm monster fucker set?
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I can't believe we're at the point where pic related is considered the standard for filler creatures.
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>Add "Power 4 or greater" mechanic to seven different sets in Standard
>Print zero (0) playable creatures with power 4 or greater
lmao
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>>97026449
The gay dragon just got loose, so...
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>>97026449
>>97026511
BOLAS'S MASSIVE COCK HEAD COMETH
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>>97026453
A year back I watched a Goldfish podcast where they talked about how 4 cmc is the most expensive creatures can get, like that's the point you play a bomb. Now it feels like we are at the point where 3 mana is bomb category
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>>97026525
>Now it feels like we are at the point where 3 mana is bomb category
Pretty much. Most 3cmc creatures either have to basically win the game by themselves and by you a coke at the same time these days.
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>>97026453
Seems like a pretty normal uncommon for the last maybe 6 to 9 years to me.
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>>97026538
>2cmc growing threat with strong tempo keyword
>Replaces itself on death
Bro that thing is fucking cracked beyond anything that is even remotely acceptable.
You're just shit at card assessment because you're a zoomer.
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>>97026547
Oh a 2/1 that gets a counter every turn or so how will i possibly handle this overwhelming threat
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>>97026574
>"Bro it's not broken because all this shit is broken too!"
What the fuck even is the point you're trying to make?
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>>97026574
Anon, every creature being "answer this or fucking die" is bad. Both that dog and that drake showcase terrible game design choices jotc are making.
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>>97023951
If this is a dog elemental and none of the bug-like elementals are insects, I'm gonna be pissed.
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>>97026579
Are you genuinely looking me in the eye and saying Gleaming Geardrake was some impossible to handle draft nightmare?
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>>97026604
>an 1/1 that grows a little when you sac clues (the main artifact avaliable in the set and the only one you could reasonably be saccing) is answer or die
come on
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>>97026615
>Are you genuinely looking me in the eye and saying Gleaming Geardrake was some impossible to handle draft nightmare?
No.
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>>97023951
This shit is spiritually repulsive on a level I did not know was possible.
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>>97026628
Thank you, so this kitty thing isn't a problem either.
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>>97026547
I guess sure if you want to compare it against something outside the time frame I outlined.
>You're shit at card assessment
>Zoomer
Spoken like a zoomer trying to LARP as a boomer or someone who played once back in the late 2000s, left the game for about 15 years, and has no idea what cards existed in that span of time.
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>>97026659
>Thank you, so this kitty thing isn't a problem either.
They are both problems.
You asked me if I was saying something I did not say.
I am not saying a thing that I did not say.
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>>97026663
You said it was "cracked beyond imagination" and it isn't.
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>>97026668
>You said it was "cracked beyond imagination" and it isn't.
Yes it is. You are living in a FIRE design echo chamber.
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>>97026431
It failed last time so investors won't invest into a risky proposition unless there is a significant change.
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>>97026672
It's not even as good as Novice Pyromancer and that was an uncommon too.
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>>97026678
>It's not even as good as Novice Pyromancer
... I think it's a little bit better than a do-nothing 4 mana planeswalker anon.
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>>97025319
Tamiyo got compleated with the Reality Chip so her soul didn't die in the process. She got uncompleated by letting herself get killed.
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Ah, the good old days. Where they didn't print busted 2-mana draft bombs. Drsft was fair and square.
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>>97023951
Can you feel it now, Mr. Krabs?
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>>97025319
She didn't get uncompleated, she just died.
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>>97026712
Fucking seriously though, what the FUCK is the point you are even trying to make?
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>>97026431
Because they don't want a bunch of planes that have similar themes? They're not going to make a new plane every time something changes.
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>>97026735
>Because they don't want a bunch of planes that have similar themes?
Romantasy is a different theme to the themes of Lorwyn, so that is not a problem.
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>>97026729
That you're complaining about literally nothing. We've had much much bigger draft bombs even at that same exact price and a card that grows and also replaces itself isn't even new. It's going to be a B+, A tier card in draft, but nothing more.
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>draft a decent limited deck
>get BTFO by mythic bombs and go 0-3

yep, that's magic alright
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>>97026748
>That you're complaining about literally nothing.
Okay well I am complaining about something so your point is explicitly incorrect.
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Ah yes, classic romantasy archetype "The Midget With The Big Head"
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>>97026752
Your deck was simply not decent. Git gud.
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>>97026758
If they had their way, Kithkin would have been replaced with a new gay faction of fuccbois.
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>>97026744
Well Romantasy is a genre, so no not really. It's just fantasy but with romance, it's in the name. Lorwyn is a fantasy setting, all that changes to make it "romantasy" is making some characters attractive to women.
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>>97026777
>It's just fantasy but with romance,
Oh, sweet summer child..
how little you know...
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>>97026758
Goes right along with the classic romantasy animal "Crab Snake Anglerfish"
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Magic plays itself, just like Hearthstone
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>>97026787
Cherrypicked counter examples do not disprove a trend.
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>>97026758
I hate how they keep trying to appeal to women and their inane fantasies, who will stop wokes of the coast??
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>>97026604
Geardrake was played nowhere outside of limited and even then it was simply a "oh, I'm in these colours I'll use this" pick.
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>>97026547
Blue needs to end the game it's usually the weakest color in limited.
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>>97026814
>it's usually the weakest color in limited.
If the only solution to bad balancing WotC can think of is bad design, that is not a good thing.
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>>97026794
We've seen 16 cards from ECL so far, 5 are lands. Out of the 11 left, we have:
>3 fucked up elementals
>a depiction of the new great aurora
>2 DFC of nostalgiabait
>a wacky shapeshifter hobo
>a classic lorwyn faerie
>a classic kithkin
>a championship card of a fr*nch dude
Ashling's Command is the only art there that could maybe fit into a romantasy book, and if it was change from R/U to R/B it'd fit right into old Lorwyn. You're having a meltdown over your own cherrypicked examples.
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>>97026853
Cool story, bro.
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>>97026787
Is it "Seven Curses for Seven Dwarves: A Why Choose Romantasy Retelling"?
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>>97026777
Most of it seem to have fanfiction tropes as the selling point. Enemies to lovers seem to be the most common archetype so inter species Elf romance seems like will be the focus.
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>>97026897
Yeah, and that's not something you can see in the art. Anon looked at a single piece from an artist who always draws fruity dudes and shat and pissed himself.
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>>97026906
>Yeah, and that's not something you can see in the art.
>>97024150
Fuck off, retard.
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>>97026933
>Anon looked at a single piece from an artist who always draws fruity dudes
lmao, you couldn't even get to the second sentence before freaking out
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>>97026897
>Enemies to lovers
GAY
GAY
BOLAS
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>>97026946
Why is WotC hiring that artist, anon?
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>>97026946
>before freaking out
It's fun seeing these same NPC idiots try to attribute hysteria to literally every person responding critically to literally any thing.
Genuine psychosis.
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Bisexual lighting was a mistake and the reason you see it everywhere is because corporate America thinks red blooded trap loving heterosexuals are now hecking gay
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>>97026966
>Why in the actual fuck they made Nu- Lorwyn so GODDAMN GAY, man?
>Fuck off, retard.
This isn't responding critically.

>>97026953
Because they hire any cheap shitty artist on the market.
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>>97027016
>This isn't responding critically.
Yes it is and you can not change that fact by mere assertion.
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>>97027001
>trap loving heterosexuals
That's just a bisexual refusing to come to terms with their life.
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>>97027027
Fuck off, retard. Why are you so gay?
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>>97027040
>That's just a bisexual refusing to come to terms with their life.
gay blooded penis (male) loving homosexual spotted.
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>>97026853
That morningtide's light card looks really good.
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>>97027027
There isn't a single ounce of critique in there, it's entirely whinging about how you don't like it. You gotta provide actual reasoning for it to be a critic, anon.
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>>97027064
>There isn't a single ounce of critique in there,
>it's entirely whinging about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>how you don't like it.
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>>97027069
>critique is simply stating you don't like a thing
ok retardbro, it's been nice talking with you
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>>97027084
Bye, globohomo defender. Hope the taste of WotC's cum washes out of your mouth fast.
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>>97027094
Magic The Gathering is for everybody.
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>>97027122
>Magic The Gathering is for everybody.
And that means NOT YOU.
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>>97027130
>And that means NOT YOU
you mean is for piggies right?
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>>97023875
No, not on Arena. You can literally just Google this. They explicitly said they changed Ajani's Pridemate because of the digital experience of using it.
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>>97027222
retard
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Top 10 2023 Romantasy Novels that Wotc will steal from
1.Fourth Wing: Frail nerd is forced by her mother to become a Dragon rider. An enemies to lovers story.
2.Assistant to the Villain: Cheery women works for attractive villain. A sunshine and grumpy story also based on a TikTok series.
3.The Ashes & the Star-Cursed King: Women marries man who killed her father and plans to reclaim her kingdom and get revenge on her former lover. The revenge is getting him to beg to have sex with her. A vampire story.
4.A Soul of Ash and Blood: The Queen of Flesh and Fire has become the Primal of Blood and Bone, the true Primal of Life and Death. Gods are awakening across the land. This book is a blatant cashgrab lifting text from the previous. The romance is between to soulmates and the woman's sidepiece.
5.Sorrow and Starlight: A toxic romance story.
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>>97027233
They banned Cat Oven combo in Arena for the same reason. They explicitly said they errata'd Pridemate because of Arena's triggers being so clunky. You are wrong and deserve to die.
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>>97024247
>romantasy
can't wait for heckin wholesome bdsm elf rape
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>>97027243
If wotc is doing romantasy will we get isekai light novels in equal measure or just villainess ones
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>>97027262
Lorwyn basically already had that
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>>97027269
Isekai is bad because it is male fantasy. Romantasy is good because it's femoid fantasy.
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>>97027001
>Bisexual lighting
Stop it. Get some help.
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It's early data, but if this holds, I've never been more wrong about a card. She absolutely carried me through my pre-release.
With Aang's Journey and the amount of ripping through your deck that the color-pair can do, I would have thought that Azula would make an easy splash for Izzet Lessons decks. But the three-color Iroh, who I felt the same about, is all the way up at B while she's down at F right now.
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>>97027243
Part 2
6.Throne of the Fallen: Women teams up with Prince of envy and travel across both the vampire and demon kingdoms. Too many sex scenes it's porn with plot as filler.
7.The Hurricane Wars: Orphan discovers she is the last light magic user is forced to marry her colonizer prince of the shadow magic empire. A enemies to lovers romance and an actual Reylo fanfiction with the names changed to avoid copyright.
8.The Hanging City: Woman escapes abusive father and seeks refuge in a troll city. The trolls allow her to live freely if she uses her fear magic against their enemies. She later marries a troll.
9.A Fire in the Flesh: 2 lovers are captured must reconcile with their ascension into Primals. A filler book because the Author couldn't meet the deadline.
10.The Jasad Heir: The last surviving royal of a kingdom whose magic has been outlawed teams up with her enemy if she wants to live. An enemies to lovers story.
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>>97026853
Green is really going to be annoying as fuck, huh...
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>>97027243
Only 3/10 of these are enemies to lovers.
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>>97027403
People have been complaining green is underpowered for years now.
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>>97027381
Azula requires you to have another instant speed card in hand to be payoff. Iroh only needs instants and sorceries in the graveyard, a much easier ask. Plus he doesn't need to swing to get benefit.
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>>97023685
you would think we would donate into helping recovering adicts charities but its some random trannie thing that he cannot even explain what they do
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>>97027438
>we would donate into helping recovering adicts charities
Why would we donate to ourselves?
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>>97027424
Green was raping Standard for 4 years straight
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>>97027513
That was 4 years ago.
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Remember when George Floyd died the Prof said that he would show solidarity with black people by having black Magic players co-host with him, and there are so few magic nogs that he could only find an EDH player, then by week 2 he was forced to have a Pokemon player or some shit, then he just gave up?
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4 years ago was a decade ago...
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>>97027534
no
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https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/designing-avatar-the-last-airbender-the-four-elements
Mark designed Airbending.
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>>97027707
Heartbreaking: Worst person you know designed decent mechanic
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Green is a mongoloid apemash color like red and whenever red or green fall out of favor, red/green players come out of the woodwork to piss and moan about how they're fucking starving. Green deserves to be shit and so does red.
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>Quantum Riddler blinkpile nearing 20% meta share in Modern
This game is so fucked
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>>97027772
>decent mechanic
nice try, nosewater
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>>97027802
energy was like 60% of the format for half a year, modern is doing really good with those numbers
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This is Savannah Lions now. Feeling old yet?
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>>97027809
Not an argument.
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>>97027909
>walled by Grizzly Bears
Savannah Lions would never
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While it'd just be adding more UB nonsense into the mix, are there any small inclusions you'd want to see a return/expansion on? So, stuff like Jurassic Park, Transformers, that kind of stuff.
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>>97028260
I'm praying for UB to die, no what UB shit we can revisit to pollute this game more, anon.
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>>97028260
how much do you wanna bet Korra gets its own set lol
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>>97026574
>>97026811

Geardrake was a game-level threat in the recent Harmony cube on MTGO exactly because it's an answer or die card that comes with bonus value even if they manage to remove it. You also don't have your removal spell for a more dangerous threat later. Cards are outstripping the structure of the game at this point; their scale doesn't make sense in a game with 20 starting life and one opponent.
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I wanna see a UB that has Donald Trump in it.
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>>97024836
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmD8I7Wd6LA
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ATLA Limited is fucking horrid lol. Bombs and removal are all that matter.
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>>97028260
>Transformers
beast wars where the animal side aren't artifacts
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>>97028429
korra will get a secret lair AT BEST korra was not popular outside of tumblr mass producing porn of the characters. the vast majority of the fandom would very much like to just memory hole it entirely
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>>97028928
>Whenever a player casts a noncreature spell, they lose 2 life.
I concede.
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>>97028883
beast wars would be sick
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>>97028879
>Bombs and removal are all that matter.
that's the point of limited tho?
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>easily thirty firebending damage off fortelled sozin's comet

this is going to break something, it has to
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I just popped in to say I hate universes beyond
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>>97028928
on a serious not, is a 2cmc 2/2 first strike with a punish effect not super good?
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>>97028648
UB: Epstein Island
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>>97029233
yes?
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>>97029134
*mana
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>>97029233
it's contextually really good in vintage because there's a lot of noncreature spells that don't kill creatures on the spot
in younger formats she might just get pushed, plowed or solitude'd before anything
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3 mana discard 2 is the key to all of this...
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>97029361
No
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>>97027001
Your life would improve greatly if you spent less time on the internet and more time outside.
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>>97029640
You aren't wrong, but then again neither is he.
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>>97027367
>yfw you find out it has a wikipedia page
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>>97029583
2 mana
Discard two at random
The eerie, wailing Hymn caused insanity even in hardened warriors.
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>>97027448
I donate batteries to myself sometimes
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>>97029672
Bet, bring hymn back in standard
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>>97029361
is there a way to search pure mana dumps on permanents in scryfall?
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>>97029722
o:":" -o:{t}
gets a lot of them
You could check tags, I'm too lazy but there's almost certainly a tag for it
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>>97028928
Nigga I wish so bad that Mai would make mono black burn viable but it's not gonna
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>>97029233
No, she's a worse version of Eidolon and that doesn't see play anywhere anymore.

If modern was healthy these three cards would see play together but they won't. Fuck this gay earth
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>>97029946
Or humans, we have so many great humans in pioneer right now but the deck is dead
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>>97029970
>but the deck is dead
not if you're tiago, the god of humans
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>>97029989
Kinda weird how he's going for mono colour deck when there's support for manafixing, is pioneer not that competitive anymore?
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>>97030047
it's not weird if you know about the history of the deck in the format, mono white lets you run 4x mutavault + a bunch of utility lands and it's what people have been playing since 2019
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When Bitcoin was doing well, reserve list cards went through the roof. Now that Bitcoin is getting fucked, what will happen to magic card prices?
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>>97030075
I know the history but payoffs for going Mardu would be big
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>>97030104
I don't think so, but feel free to produce results with your list, that's how innovation happens
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>>97030094
Who gives a fuck.
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>>97030126
I'd like to but it's not worth buying in
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>>97026712
I plashed black just for that every time I opened it and it was the right choice every time
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>>97024679
It worked for Bloomburrow
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>mfw "food" tokens and other ordinary item tokens, heckin' doggos, vehicles and etc was just part of the long jewish plan to do crossover slop
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>>97030168
Similar strategies have worked in all the recent sets. The best selling sets of the past few years have all be targeted at audiences outside of the usual Magic crowd. /mtg/ just don't want to admit it.
>b-but they won't stick around with the game and buy packs from future sets
Neither do anons, supposedly.
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>>97023951
I hope we get more merfolk
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>>97030245
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>>97026787
> I can fix him



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