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>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com/
https://www.pdhrec.com/

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>TQ
How many board wipes do you run? What is your favorite board wipe?
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>TQ
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White and colorless are proving difficult.
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>TQ: I'm a whore for artifacts so Organic Extinction for me.

Now who are you making Decks for from ATLA? Pic related my beloved
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Conversations /edhg/ isn't willing to have: Golbez is a great commander for an attractions deck.
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>>97023018
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Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
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>How many board wipes do you run? What is your favorite board wipe?
Just one. I hate dragging games out and if someone has an unstoppable board that I need a wipe to solve then I'd rather just lose.

Favourite wipe is this because I LOVE CASCADE


Also fogs are better than board wipes in 90% of situations.
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>>97023046
Well let's have it.
What makes him good at it? House already struggles with attractions and he's arguably in better colors for it.
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I like femboys, guess my commander
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>>97023114
I know it's in Selesnya.
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>>97023123
close, it's Bant
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>>97023114
>>97023123
Selesnya is for sissies. Femboys is troon-coded so it's more likely simic.
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>TQ
Smackable ass
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>>97023129
>it was both selesnya and bant
wew
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>>97023146
Selesnya and simic, fuck
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>>97023064
>Also fogs are better than board wipes in 90% of situations.
Why not both
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Hope this works:
https://ln5.sync.com/dl/33db768e0#picqizbq-ewpr9rtd-wqj9kjm5-awrcmuif
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>>97023138
nice
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>>97023018
Bazzed Forge enjoyer
Also just make a Adeline deck for mono white
https://moxfield.com/decks/FcH4jFKXe0KQmb4MJwZjrg
Alternatively:
https://moxfield.com/decks/f7I-0zNiekKvPEm5TkjuIg
https://moxfield.com/decks/U-_BgrYkAEK9n0OZsRgKyw
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>>97022991
Should that can been allowed to be printed with this on the Reserved List?
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>>97023228
Nigga was that even English
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>>97023228
yes
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>>97023228
Have you really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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>>97023154
So wait
If Selesnya is sissies, and Simic is trans, what are the other color pairs?
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I will never play any combination of white, green, or blue so no one will think I'm gay
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>>97023363
izzet is gay dragonfuckers
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>>97023400
But I don't have a single izzet deck.
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>>97023395
I do this but to let the trannies know if they aren't fat and hairy I'll fuck them in the arse
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How do I run her?
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Teysa looks like a hooker
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Holy shit I finally managed to pull off THE THING for once.
>colorless Eldrazi deck with the usual lots of rocks and big creatures
>deck has basalt monolith, mana vault, etc
>recently got an unwinding clock
>realized unwinding clock can untap the big batteries, and it does this for every opponent's untap phase
>deck has flash enablers like skittering cicada, liberator, and vedalken orrery
>FINALLY managed to get a game where I had unwinding clock, cicada, and a shitton of mana rocks on the table
>mfw I went nonstop interrupting everyone's turn with Zhulodok cascades
>mfw literally everyone was throwing counterspells, but it didn't matter due to the sheer amount of bullshit flying onto the field
>mfw ended up completely demolishing everyone on my next turn
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>>97023472
hmm have you considereddd self-mill like all other 100000 sidisi decks hmmm?
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>>97023479
Because she is
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>faggot atraxa player
>poison bullshit edhrec slop
>backlash his +10 infect to his face
>based lier protecting it
>topdecks cyc rift from rhystic
>uses smothering tithe treasures
>”since im such a faggot sore loser, im going to cyc rift before dying”

I hate these people
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>>97023528
Why wouldn't you want to go out with a bang if you're going to lose?
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>>97022991
>How many board wipes do you run? What is your favorite board wipe?
At least two. Up to 8.
>pic related
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>>97022991
>TQ:
2 or 3 but never creature boardwipes always artifact and enchantment wipes.
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>>97022991
> lord of the ringS
> its only one ring
Maybe all the lotr revisionists should worry about fixing Tolkiens illiteracy
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>>97023613
>Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
>Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
>Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
>One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
9+7+3+1=20. 20 rings is a lot and warrants the plural.
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>>97023528
Get fucked.
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>>97023613
Try reading the books, or even watch the movies.
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>>97023137
SLANDER OF VITU-GHAZI WILL NOT BE TOLERATED IN THIS THREAD!
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>>97023528
>Guy has like 50 1/1 saprolings and other shit
>Gives all his shit base p/t 61/61 and full swings at everyone for lethal
>Cast removal on his commander to see if he's holding a counter
>Did, but that's fine, now it's gone
>Okay, in response to your counter, I cast Angel's Grace
>Resolves
>Cast Deflecting Palm when I have prio declaring blockers, so I'll be alive with 1 health, but he'll take 60 damage to the face and he'll die as well as kill the other two players.
>Scoops so combat doesn't happen and my spells are gone.
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>>97022991
>TQ
>they don't run THE board wipe
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I play Jund. What does that say about my sexuality?
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>>97023781
Pillow princess sissy bottom
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Card
>all zombies in play gain swampwalk and {B}: regenerate
Oracle
>other zombies

Lame.
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>>97023781
All I'll say is that you're used to enema's
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>>97023781
that you play the sadist but actually are the masochist.
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I should sell my Rhystic Study
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tested ardyn a bit on a 200€ budget, going for big black mana + demons and it feels pretty fun so far. sorry for doubting, anon
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I like bestiality and monster sex and monster girls and I play gruul.
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>>97023840
Get fucked zombie cuck
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>>97023781
your favorite position is running into a room full of people while high on potency drugs, cutting your dick off while screaming and spraying blood everywhere, and then setting everything on fire
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>>97023868
no problem
enjoy tipping your fedora
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>>97023840
>Card
Summon Lord
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>have to play with randos again
I am going to hate my life, aren't I?
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>>97023905
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>>97023865
Wow, you actually got me.
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>>97023997
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>>97023781
Yes.
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>>97023869
makes sense desu
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>>97023920
>have to play rakdos again
I am going to have fun, aren't I?
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>>97023035
Already brewed up Metalbender Toph, Grixis Azula and next up is either Grand Lotus Iroh or Ozai. Guess I'm gonna buy some t-shirts on Friday for pic related.
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>>97022991
>TQ
Depends on the deck.
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>>97022991
>What is your favorite board wipe?
FUCK YEAH
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>>97024063
t-shrits? a minimum purchase thing?
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>>97022991
>What is your favorite board wipe?
My signature card
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>>97023035
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>>97024095
Easily the worst art among all her cards
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>>97024101
she's still sexy in it so thats all that matters
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>>97024101
That's AI for you
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>>97024101
The Aang she did looks nice
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>>97023035
Building Toph of course
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>>97024063
Shirts, what? How do I get that card?
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>>97024113
God I love tits
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>>97024113
wow this wins thank you
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>>97024119
There's a store called Box Lunch that I think is just Hot Topic but not emo.
On Friday if you go there and spend $50 on Magic you get that promo.
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>>97024129
Why are they doing a weird exclusive thing with box lunch of all places? I've never even seen one sell MTG cards
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>>97024132
After some research I've learned it's for spending money on Avatar stuff so I think they don't? I have no idea.
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>>97024113
I love the gooner toph cards bros
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>>97024137
>I'M SO HORNY LOOK AT THESE CARDS AND GET HORNY WITH ME LET'S BE HORNY HORNY HORNY HORNY
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>>97024129
Go there in person?
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>>97024145
I wish everyone acted like this
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>>97024145
I know one guy with horny proxies and he's the chillest guy in our group.
Got me a horny proxy for one of my commanders and I'm too embarrassed to use it, but the thought was nice.
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>>97023035
is he better or worse than go-shintai?
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>>97024160
whats the proxy?
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>>97024137
I wanna see the full version of this
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>>97024113
Damn, but also, toph is a child.
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>>97024168
out of 10!
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>>97024168
Not in this art she's not. Look at her.
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>>97024168
Clearly she's aged up retard
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>>97024171
It's just a cosplayer. This is actually Toph grown up.
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>>97024113
Is this the hottest one yet?
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>>97024134
I've never paid much attention. I've just bought some DBZ statues there when they had deals. It really is like a more nerdy hot topic without the band shit
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I want coomette to fuck off with his painfully obvious advertising
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>>97024177
>It's MA'AM
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>>97024183
Speaking of promos why the fuck did they make katara so hard to get? I want her in this slutty outfit
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>>97024111
It's passable but this is the winner
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>>97024185
I don't
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>>97024185
I'm just a fan dude
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>>97024193
I like the scene box one
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>>97024160
Last time there was someone with horny proxies at our table, it was someone who was probably a teenager. Played a (genderbent) Cloud Strife, and had another that was him (her?) sitting naked at a computer.
Dude was high-energy, but chill. Kind-of a newfag though.
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>>97024190
Because they love doing promos where you can only obtain them by going to one singular physical location
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>>97024198
She's really cute in that one, wish it was zoomed in a little more
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>>97024200
The only time I've seen them in person everyone just cracked jokes about them all night. Everyone started calling him gooner and kept asking him why his cards were sticky.
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>>97024196
>People talk about shit they wish he would do
>Mysteriously, next update he's done that card
>Constantly posting about his simplistic, shit, and overpriced art that is just girl with tits over and over again.
Nah. Fuck off coomette.
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>>97024220
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>>97024220
>overpriced
where's this part coming from
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>>97024220
Did this happen? I remember talking about another artist wishing I could find a card of Toph they did but never Coomette.
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>>97024233
>Several months ago general talking about sexy goblins
>Coomette suddenly releases several goblin cards
Constantly if you pay attention
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>>97024238
well the more you know I guess
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>>97024220
People request cards lol
This is not a difficult concept to grasp
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>>97024220
>"UGH I hate this DEI lgbtqbbq shit! We need sexy women!"
>someone does it
>"NOOOO FUCK OFF YOU GROSS CHUD MISANDRIST!"
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>>97024254
Seems like a dishonest reduction of the statement, in other words you are a stupid nigger
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>>97023781
You are a necrophiliac
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>>97024257
you should stop projecting.
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>>97024254
>Things that were never said
Buy low effort shit just because it makes your dick twitch if you like. Stop advertising it yourself at worst and sucking his dick off at best.
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>>97024263
I'm not the retard (You) that jacks off to the same face slopped out by a jeet on etsy
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>>97024254
Ya but fuck proxies
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>>97024268
You are the bitchmade anon tho, so who cares.
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I think I need to change one or two things
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>>97024287
no fucking way
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>>97022991
I used to run 14 board wipes in my Avacyn deck. I've cut it down to 8 or 9.
I still like this one best because I can yell at the board "If you ain't white, you ain't right" and be correct on how this functions.
That or Farewell. Which I still need to get in Spanish.
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What is the best thing to do with him? Aristocrats? Is it destined to be a boring 5 color goodstuff pile no matter what? The art is so cool but atogs aren't.
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>>97024291
at what point do you just scoop?
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>ask someone if they are going to pay a tax
>They get pissed at me asking
>Tell them I'm just going to pay attention then and do the reward if they don't pay it on their own.
>Get even more pissed off at me not reminding them
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>>97024303
yeah I scoop
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It seems my superiority has led to some controversy
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>>97024320
hot
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>>97023920
I am also weary of randos but I've not had a bad experience since 2024.
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>>97024320
>hearts instead of mana symbols
>saw the crotch shot last
well fuck im more autistic than horny.
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>>97024320
>My
At least you are admitting your are just advertising.
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>>97023228
Of course questioning the temperament of the table should results uniformity before you consider.
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>>97024320
....are there any for Narset
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>>97024334
It's always just minor annoyances and I have a low tolerance

>tell retard he has to draw an extra card due my howling mine
>stares at me blankly
>doesn't do it
>tell him again
>same blank stare

If it's not people like that then it's a retard who takes 10 minutes to make a decision on turn 3.
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>>97024368
Are there any dragons?
I like dragon girls.
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>>97024302
https://scryfall.com/search?as=full&q=o%3A%22choose+a+creature+type%22&utm_source=mci
>maskwood nexus
>arcane adaption
>Xenograft
>Conspiracy
>some of the changelings
fill the board with power matters creatures or mass tokens, drop something that changes their creature types, then finish with your commander in some way, dunno, drop chandra's ignition on him or fling him or make him unblockable or something.
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>>97023920
Depends on how autistic you are and if you can have normal experiences with humans
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>>97024368
false flagging is obvious, bitchmade.
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Why don't more decks run this? 3 mana to keep the biggest beater and/or the beefiest blocker on the field tapped and attacking someone other than you.
Reusable for just one mana if that creature gets removed or if you want to pick something else, too.
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>>97024379
No and no!
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>>97024359
Not the anon you responded to but the ones that irk me the most are the anons who will keep trying to politic their way out of situations when I’ve already made up my mind to target their stuff.
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>>97024386
I wish you could activate it at instant speed. Most beaters have some way to get haste now(swifties, graves,etc) or the plan is to abuse etbs anyway via sac/flicker so it drops the equip anyway.
It's not bad but it's just not as good as just a board wipe
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>>97024220
how you doin poopdickschizo? Holdin up good man?
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>>97022991
>TQ
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>have constant urge to make new decks
>plan them out
>literally just the same types of deck I already have with a few colors swapped
>decide to just bling out the decks I already have and crack a few packs
>urge gone

I think I'm just depressed.
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>>97024090
It does make me laugh when I remember how many cards from Tempest got reprinted in later sets at Rare or higher
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>>97024352
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>>97024432
>I just have his entire catalog, but I'll not him teehee
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>>97024432
You dont own that card
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>>97024438
I have most of the legendaries, not the whole catalog
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>>97024426
If it’s any consolation it happens to me from time to time.
>Wanr to make a combat focused Najeela Warrior toolbox deck
>Would require taking apart a few of my decks including pic
>Pic’s main wincon is via combat as well
>Lose motivation to make Najeela
Honestly there’s nothing wrong with spending the money to bling out your deck(s) with fancier cards. I’m wanting to rebuild my C14 Freyalise precon which would require me taking out Mystic Elf and Llanowar Elf from pic, so I’m going to replace them with fancier versions.
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>>97024455
>toolbox
This is code for jank
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>>97024459
It's code for tutorslop.
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>>97024352
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>>97024352
Or
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>>97024438
classic poopdickschizo post
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>Faglord reanimates this
>Never seen it before, ask him to read it since he's all the way on the otherside of the table
>Swords it to get rid if it forever
>He sacs it to itself to stop it from getting exiled
>Well, that is gay, but whatever,
>Look it up just know because it seemed like such a busted card
>Realize I was cheated
I hate this game most of the time. Why do I still play.
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>>97024467
>type line underneath the text box
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>>97024386
It's a bit niche. There are a lot of ways to just tap down or remove someone's nonsense so even goading at a good rate is borderline unless your deck needs it specifically. Ghoulish Impetus does the same thing for the same mana, but recurs for free.

I run it in my Balan, Wandering Knight deck because I can use Balan's ability to force equip it to her along with an Assault Suit, so I can pass her around the table and force opponents to swing out with possibly lethal commander damage.
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>>97024474
I like this shop, they just don't do nearly as many cards as others.
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>>97024183
Box Lunch is owned by Hot Topic. Interestingly so is Torrid.
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>>97024529
Torrid was hot topic making a plus size brand because they realized thick girls like nightmare before christmas shorts too. It grew into a real clothing store as the customers aged up
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>>97024431
It was a rare in tempest though?
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>>97024320
i fucking lost
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>>97024566
Actually looks like shit.
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So we're just ai proxies general now?
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Does anyone make a Shelob where shes the Stoya clone from Shadow of War?
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>>97024576
Only until the retards catch a ban for advertising again.
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>>97024582
I'm just a fan bro
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>>97024576
I hope so
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>>97024586
No one is buying your excuse or your shit proxies
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>>97024597
Genuinely why are you so mad
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>>97024601
>Advertising and spamming garbage
Gee.
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>>97024620
You will never be a jannie
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>>97024224
>>97024227
>>97024250
>>97024254
>97024320
>97024382
>97024408
>97024432
NTA, but this is very obvious damage control.
>B-B-B-But poopyschizo!
Don't use a "meme" that sounds like it was made by a five year old when you're pretending to suddenly be seven different people that just showed up out of nowhere.
I wish your business well but damn is it obnoxious.
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>>97024637
Lol
You're a fucking schizo
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>>97024641
>Something that is incredibly easy to fake as proof
Terrible.
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>>97024641
why you pretending to be me?
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>>97024641
Dude everyone's known for years how easy it is to just fuck post content for screencaps. Anyone with working knowledge of HTML (like what would be required to make a custom MSE set) can figure that shit out.
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All my opinions on AI proxies are drawn from how fucking anally devastated all these 'innocent real card game fans' get when someone says they don't want to lick Ji Xin Ping's ass-sweat and buy entire decks of bad AI generations.

You're either doing it to advertise or you're doing it to intentionally fuck up the thread. The former I might even forgive if they didn't all look nauseatingly bad, but the latter is just fucking annoying; we have enough autism going on in here talking about the game, we don't need some bitch-made interlopers stirring the pot.

And to anyone else in the thread who inevitably is going to come out of the woodwork "oh I need to cover myself in cardboard slathered chandra nalars foundation caked waterballoon tits", congratulations retard it's all over the fucking internet; search it, rub it out as many times as needed to overcome the shame of being a massive disappointment to everyone in your life and come back when you want to talk about the fucking card game.
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>>97024676
Who asked?
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>>97024678
I did. I asked anon telepathically. Fuck you.
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>>97024676
It is both moral to not support China, and make it blatantly obvious you are using a proxy instead of just saying "no bro, I really own a mint condition foil cradle, just believe believe me but it and me are the realest."
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just wanted to tell everyone that I need to cover myself in cardboard slathered chandra nalars foundation caked waterballoon tits
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>>97024678
Do you only give your thoughts when asked to? That's true NPC behavior.
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>>97024637
man you are quoting tweets that didn't even say anything vaguely in defense of the proxies. you are seriously, genuinely schizophrenic.
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>>97024708
>Quoting tweets
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>I post a couple proxies that I like
>Everyone loses their minds
>Poopdickschizo accuses everyone else of being schizo

Last one for now I guess. Thanks for the keks though. No idea why that one guy likes to flip his shit about these but here we are.
I'm just a guy who likes magic and big titties
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>>97024742
you play with any of these in person? how did the table react?
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proxyfags are such cancer
worse than unapproved-UB fags
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>>97024742
>Opponent plays card
>Recognize the name but have no idea what the fuck is on the field
>"Let me see that"
>Thought it was a foil, turns out it's AI slop covered in cum crust
You better believe I'm calling you out for this garbage
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>>97024746
They dont play with the cards, they literally just masturbate to them at home and wipe the cum off to post them on edhg
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>>97024742
>I spam shit it annoy people
>People call me out on my behavior
Ftfy coomette.
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Post decks I guess, I just replaced Braids Frightful Return with The Ancient One, gonna see how it goes on Saturday
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>>97024742
her tits look like peaches

which come from a can
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>>97024742
>>Poopdickschizo
Gayest forced meme on this board.
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>>97024753
>They dont play with the cards
I'm still trying to secure a deal with the US government and the NFL to let me play a game at the Superbowl in front of aliens.
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>>97024742
>>I post a couple proxies that I made
FTFY
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>>97024753
I play with the proxies that I got from Blackroseproxies though
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>>97024746
Yeah I mostly play with my homies and they're cool with it. I try to have a sexy alt for all my commanders and then the occasional high priced card that goes into the deck.

Nobody minds. We play in the store and it's not like anyone says anything about it. I'm not the only one with proxies, and definitely not the only one with "coomer" proxies in my flgs. There's another dude I don't usually play with but he has several from another Etsy seller
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>>97024768
>>97024762
>>97024756
>>97024750
Samefag
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>cast board wipe
>dawn's truce lol
>attack with everything
>flare of fortitude lol
>living death
>galadriel's dismissal
FUCKING STOP THIS BULLSHIT LET ME WIN
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>>97024774
I don't know if I'd say that's the gayest thing I've ever heard, but it's definitely up there.
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>>97024742
absolutely based
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>>97024774
Yeah, my lgs just told me to ask if other players were okay with it during rule 0 and not to play with my proxies against children.
I would imagine most outside of utah would have a similar stance.
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>>97024786
There's a post talking about fucking trannies in the ass
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>>97024753
>You don't own the cards
>Ok you own the cards but you won't put them in your deck
>Ok so they're in you're deck but you won't play with them
>Ok so you play with them but you wouldn't play with them at a flgs
When does the goalpost stop being moved?
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>>97024792
That's why I'm not saying it's the gayest. But it's pretty gay to be showing off softcore porno to your male friends in hopes that they like them too? Are you trying to make your bros at the table horny for some reason?
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>>97024786
Why is it gay?
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>>97024795
When you play with it live at the Superbowl during half-time in front of aliens.
This is the well established burden of proof.
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Starting to think no one actually wants to talk about the game
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>>97024757
Am I retarded for taking Disallow over Negate
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>>97024757
As a fellow Golbezchad I approve. I don't have room on my desk to show the whole thing so I just pulled out my favorite cards from my Golbez list.
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>>97024819
There are several posts in this thread talking about the game that you could have replied to in the attempts of starting a conversation, but you just would rather complain.
Curious.
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>>97024791
Good point. Not a lot of kids at my flgs so maybe that's part of why it's allowed. But desu I can't imagine it being denied by most reasonable places. At this point proxies are part of the game with how expensive everything is
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>>97024824
I know because I made one of them
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so with the monster hunter sl, I'm reminded I've always wanted to try and build Vaevictis Asmadi, the Dire somehow. There's nothing like containment priest in jund, is there? Burgeoning wouldn't trigger if opponents topdeck a land, right?
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>>97024847
effects that *put* lands on the battlefield don't trigger burgeoning
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>>97022991
>TQ
Usually not more than one or two. Depending on the deck. Favorite lately has been this one. Instant speed board wipe that keeps your biggest thing up is fun.
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>>97024847
>There's nothing like containment priest in jund, is there?
Closest you'll get off the top of my head
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>>97024855
>instant speed damage based boardwipe
that's a pretty good niche for red actually
>look them up
>only 5 can hit the magic number, 4 damage to each creature
>3 of them are X spells
damnit wotc it's (((current year)))
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>>97024856
oh man thats bullshit, I love it.
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>>97024783
No only two of those are me.
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In 5 minites I make better looking AI womens.
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>>97024873
It's fitting niche for red and depending on how it can scale it can be used to blow up only your opponents boards at instant speed. Starstorm is another I run and being able to scale according to what you need and have mana to spend on has been useful. Just wish there were a few more of them. I'd even take a instant speed Slagstorm.
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>>97024696
Do you always give your thought when nobody asked? That's true sperg behavior.
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>>97024855
Instant speed waltz of rage is nice. I might need to include this in my Calamity deck somehow.
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>>97024905
>an opinion i dont like? What are you socially maladapted?
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>>97024856
>Do this a billion times with T-pro cast
>Hold prio
>Finally have to pass prio
>Next player in line holds prio and does it a billion times
>Etc etc
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>>97024784
There is no reason to interact these days (other than what you just posted). It just benefits you more to keep building your own solitaire and not bother with anyone, especially in brackets that don't allow 2 card combos. This is what happens when everything is KOS.
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I'm thinking of making an akrona goad deck. Is it going to be as fun as I want?

I was also toying with a Tifa, Martial Artist + act of treason cards, but that's more in the theory phase.
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>>97024933
Agreed. I try to hover around at least 15-20 pieces of interaction (removal and protection) and every deck has become much more skewed towards protection in that 15-20
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>>97024947
Karona, not akrona. Dyslexia strikes again.
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>>97024795
>When does the goalpost stop being moved?
When you show up at my LGS with a titty deck and whip it out
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>>97024928
>Next player in line holds prio and does it a billion times
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>>97024822
Golbez is one of the few unique looking Dimir commanders that isnt also dogshit
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>>97024757
I'm getting way too cute with this deck, and I can feel it in the tension of construction.

It's Tekuthal, but the focus is on slurping counters more than proliferating them. Mainly letting you juggle sagas and doing some interesting stuff with a few key creatures.

I fear I'm skimping super hard on interaction for the sake of being cute, and while it's "bracket 3" if I cut the game changers this deck would probably be at home in bracket 2. But my LGS is generally 3s and bad 4s, so there's no real reason to go down.
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>>97024757
Been revisiting Orvar lately. It's fun making a ridiculous amount of copies of things like Caged Sun and Heraldic Banner and then taking people out with juiced up Orvar or swarms of various blue creatures. Haven't made too many changes to the list but it's fun.

https://moxfield.com/decks/-hf_gVrAr0aioGq_ccqgPQ
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should I buy a mox diamond for CEDH?
its the last of the stupidly expensive cards I would want
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>>97025002
Always thought Goldberry would be a fun one to try but I could never find the right deck for her. How much does she add to things?
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>>97024908
Galloping Inferno?
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>>97025022
I just sleeved it up, so it's not complete. I've got an Overlord of the Floodpits coming that'll fit in nicely along with an O'aka, Traveling Merchant which serves a similar purpose to Goldberry.

Tekuthal cannot consistently remove the counters off (non-summon) sagas, so it's prudent to have cards like Goldberry to tick them down. She can also leech the indestructible counter off Tekuthal which is nice for spreading it around to other cards I control.
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>>97023035
>new shrine commander
>its a 5 colah sloppa AGAIN
mesmerizing
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>>97024576
Yeah I can't stand cheap looking AI proxies with their weird ass non-borders and horrible art that doesn't even fit shat the card is supposed to portray and awful templating and font.

Let's post official cards instead.
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>>97025002
>Soul Conduit
My NIGGA
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>>97024577
Be the hero you want to see anon.
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>>97025053
>it's okay if I use ugly slop, see?
>because THEY'RE using ugly slop
lol!
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Why is the Roku saga so much worse than every other Avatar saga?
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>>97024933
I've come to a similar conclusion. The odds that
>I just have it!
are low unless I tutorfag+waste 10% or more of my deck on efficient removal, and cards pack so much value in themselves now that all a board wipe tends to do if someone is running a greedpile deck and popping off is delay the game since they're far more likely to rebuild than I am if I'm the one reacting to people's creatures and they can undo 90% of removal with a single recursion card. I'm rarely happy to top deck interaction and it's even more rarely helped me win/stop someone else from winning (maybe for that turn yeah but long term they usually outpace me if I'm building a "balanced" deck).

I'll still play a couple of the best generic targeted removals for the most dire of emergencies, especially if its one that doesn't actually remove a permanent but totally locks it out of the game, and if it's stapled to a card that serves my gameplan I'll gladly include it even if it's a little worse than an alternative, but if I'm worried about my opponents boards I'd much rather include some STAX pieces since they at least actively slow others and don't require me to save up a bunch of mana.
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Why AI though?
Why not just put good art onto a proxy?
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>>97025055
In concept the deck can go through a lot of life very fast through the commander's activated ability. It's an ironic add-in but it's too based not to try.
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>>97025080
Because they think with their dicks, and only realize that they won't use them for playing after they buy them. I wish there was more art of zanik I could use for a card, but there aren't that many out there.
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>>97024676
>buy entire decks of bad AI generations.
I make my own garbage, thanks.
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How many triggers of firebender ascension do you get with Isshin on the board? I don't think it qualifies as an attack trigger, but Isshin does say the ability triggers an additional time, so it triggers twice per ability after all?
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>>97025080
It's extremely hard to find good non-AI art now that we're well into the forever sloppa era of humanity. I used to use pinterest and other image sites a lot when I make proxies, but ever since faggots got their hands on AI they've spammed the fuck out of all image hosting sites with it and most of the site owners can't be assed to even mark AI shit let alone remove it. So now when I want art for proxies I usually start by cycling through famous/prolific fantasy artists portfolios and using art of theirs I've never seen before, or I search up mtg artists from back when this game's art was actually good and use newer pieces that Hasbro won't be putting in the game.

It's pretty tedious. I can see why some people just don't want to bother and go the lazy sloppa route.
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>>97025092
Isshin would double the effect that adds a quest counter.
If you attack with a firebender, you trigger the initial firebend, isshin dupes it, Ascension gets a counter and if its at 4 or more, you get another copy, and then isshin triggers it again and you get another copy for 4 total firebends.
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>>97025103
>It's unbearable the effort I go through to scroll through Twitter, Pinterest, and boorus to right click and upload into a preformatted card maker website. Aifags will never know the tremendous effort I go through to find my art to steal.
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>>97025090
I need better ways to generate this sort of perfect T&A pose
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>>97025114
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Should I bother including a 4 card infinite loop
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>>97025119
Fitting your rebuttal is also something you lazily ripped off.
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>>97025130
Look at little janny junior
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>>97025122
Only if the individual pieces are worth playing in the deck on their own.
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>you can't just take art an artist uploaded online for free and use in on a playing card you're not reselling or otherwise profiting off of while making sure to properly cite who the artist is that's stealing!
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>>97025104
See, I don't think Isshin would double the ascension's trigger, only the firebending. If he'd also make ascension trigger an additional time, you'd end up with 6 total firebends.
If we just assume Firebender Ascension and Isshin, then
>t3 you get 2 quest counters, nothing happens
>t4 you get two triggers. The first adds a third quest counter, the other adds a fourth, copying the firebend
>3 total firebends
>Quest is online for doubling later attack triggers including Isshins additional triggers.
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>>97025147
I look like this and say this
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>>97025002
> Das Ding Im Eis
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>>97025147
He mad as hell.
Wasn't about the concept of theft however. Did you not have someone to loan you reading comprehension?
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>97025114
>the tremendous effort I go through to find my art to steal
>97025164
>Wasn't about the concept of theft however.
>steal
>theft
>steal
>theft

Can't tell if esl or schizo. Retarded either way.
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>>97025175
>I read the last word and I'm super mad and childish about it, while I missed the actual point twice.
Though, there is 100% a kernel of truth, and that you know it and are ashamed of that fact. Otherwise you wouldn't be so ass blasted.
Go ice your sore scrolling finger.
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>>97025152
I actually think isshin wouldn't interact with ascension at all but im no expert
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>>97025104
>>97025152
>>97025202
Isshin doesn't interact with Firebender's Ascension. Both of them are triggers that are caused by triggers, not triggers caused by attacking. The one-remove from the attack event isolates them from each-other.
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>>97025104
>>97025152
>>97025202
>>97025233
Wait, no, Isshin is a replacement effect that doubles the number of triggers, so they're still attack triggers. Firebender's Ascension sees both triggers and thus triggers twice, once for each of the resulting triggers.
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>>97023035
Currently putting together a Toph, Greatest Earthbender deck.
I love that the raised commander tax cost makes her stronger each time you cast her, if she gets removed. I'm not running anything "cheesy" like making Bumi, Unleashed a 'land' so that he can do infinite battles, but I am focusing the deck entirely on Earthbending. Probably gonna be a strong 2 once it's done, maybe a 3 if I upgrade it (or it turns out to be stronger than expected). The only card I am really missing right now is the Kyoshi creature card, I already have her saga card.

I'm also planning on making a run of the mill avatar deck (the one that cares about all kinds of bending), one ally deck, and potentially 1-2 firebending decks because shit's cool yo.
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>>97023035
nothing. doesn't have anything very interesting to me that doesn't just do what one of my other decks does.
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I'm making a golbez list
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/edhg/ is dying
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>>97025365
and thus, healing
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can you have too much ramp in a landfall deck ?
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>>97025582
Theoretically, yes
Practically, no
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>>97025090
I like it
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>>97024685
Based opinion
>>97024676
Unbiased opinion

Imagine not liking big titties
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>>97024905
>Do you always give your thought when nobody asked?
Yes. My opinions are absolutely paramount and must be shared. To keep them to myself is like the stop the rain or the sun.
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>>97025080
Actually finding 50+ pieces of art in a coherent style that you like that can all go into a deck together is basically impossible, especially if you want the art to fit the effect. But with AI, I can generate my own art for the cards and get a whole deck all with coherent artstyle and fitting images for the effect. Some of it will be worse than what wotc puts on cards, but have you seen the shit art they got these days? I've just made a Mardu Warrior deck and good god the dragonstorm art is so fucking bad. The only halfway decent piece I could find is Worthy Cost, but I'd rather have a coherent style throughout my deck so sacrifices had to be made.
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>>97025927
>Actually finding 50+ pieces of art in a coherent style that you like that can all go into a deck together is basically impossible
Yeah if you're a shitter and need crutch staples.
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>>97025738
Big tits are disgusting. Flat for life.
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>>97025927
>Actually finding 50+ pieces of art in a coherent style that you like that can all go into a deck together is basically impossible
What an embarrassing thing to say to be entirely honest. Artstation or pixiv or booru all exist and you can easily find art for whatever the fuck you want there
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>>97025947
What the fuck does staples have to do with it? I'm swapping out the art of cards like War Effort and Angel of Indemnity, both of which have garbage art.
>>97025954
Not in the same style you can't. I tried, but it's just much easier and smoother to just make the art yourself with AI, since you can do that nowadays. Especially if I want things like having my commander appear on card art throughout the deck, I can gen the art for the commander and then have it as a reference when genning art for other cards. I've done this with several legendary creatures in the deck, they're reoccuring characters who appear in both art and flavor text in cards.
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>>97024988
This is a joke post right?
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>>97025738
>Imagine not liking big titties
Actual big tits or porn addict big tits?
>>97024487
>read card
>but not thoroughly enough to catch the misplay
>assume you were cheated rather than a player making an honest mistake during the scramble
Come on man
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>>97025114
>Art theft is BAD!
>Yes, I support AI art. Why do you ask?
lmao
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>>97026020
Ai art is not art theft
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>>97025080
Generative AI is unironically the only good use for AI.
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>>97026027
It categorically is you dumb coper.
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>>97026034
It categorically is not lmao. Art is inspiration.
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Izzet commander that isn't spellslingers or artifact.dek?
Melek and Emperor are cool voltron commanders, any other archetypes?
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>>97026046
>iNspIraTiOn
lmfao look at this proompter trying to cope by giving human emotion to an algorithm that's doing a glorified tracing job.
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>>97026049
What even is EDHrec for if people still ask these questions? Go through the list, brainstorm a little and let your creativity go wild. Brudiclad is a token deck, Aegar a Wizards+Giants tribal. I'm sure you can find more options if you just read some cards and try.
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>>97026049
>Izzet deck that isn't any of the things that are Izzet's identity
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>>97026056
Ai is a tool and it's an iterative process just like traditional methods of creating art
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>>97026098
Correct, it's a tool, like a photocopier.
>just like traditional methods of creating art
lmfao you have not created anything in your life or studied what AI is if you're retarded enough to say that.
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>>97026103
You quite literally don't know what you're talking about
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>>97026056
I didnt do any of that. You dont need human emotion to look at two things and create something similar. CLEARLY, you dont need human emotion cause a fucking string of code is doing it. AI isnt theft im sorry. If it is, the vast vast majority of creative endeavors are. Doing the hand work yourself doesnt stop it from being so.
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>>97026103
Retard you don't know shit
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>>97026049
>Firkraag Cunning Instigator
Izzet Goad, Ive been meaning to brew him myself
>Brudiclad/Ovika
Izzet tokens, but ovika is def more on the "spell slinger" angle but you get to use stuff like skirk prospector to make tons of mana which is neat
>Eruth Tormented Prophet
Impulse draw + cast from exile synergies
>Sarkhan Soul Aflame
Also been meaning to brew. 2 color dragon tribal, sarkhan turns into your other dragons for a turn so you can double up some things
>>97026073
Look I'd rather have people asking questions than endless sperging about the virtues/crimes of making porn addict proxies and/or actually paying the Chinese for them
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AI isnt art, but the vast majority of shit produced by the people outraged by AI theft aint art either. If you're threatened by AI "art" then you're a shitty "artist". If AI art took money out of your wallet, means you were a slop merchant to begin with.
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>>97026111
>no u
AI does not fundamentally understand what it creates - all it does is trace together parts of its source images. (Good) artists understand their subject in an abstract sense, and can use logic and their knowledge of that subject in space to make unique material. If you have a human draw a hand with closed fingers, eventually the human will understand how the digits within it work and attempt to draw more dynamic posing. If you train an AI on closed-finger hands, it will never make anything beyond a flipper.
It's the reason why AI's flaws are mostly in nonsensical details, because it doesn't "know" what it's making.
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>>97026049
Sarkhan Soul Aflame
Aegar the freezing flame
Myra the Magnificent
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>>97026131
Questions are better than that shit, but I'd also like people to think a little bit before posting. It's similar to asking rules questions about cards that can easily be answered by the respective gatherer page.
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>>97026114
>>97026123
>I
Most subtle samefag.
Can we rangeban India?
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If i'm playing a deck with a lot of ramp spells, is 38 lands too many? (It's got land synergy, but still?)
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>>97025257
>I'm not running anything "cheesy" like making Bumi, Unleashed a 'land' so that he can do infinite battles
Why not nigga
Become one with the land
Give your whole board double strike and recur them, you know you want to. Upgrade Toph into her true inner self, a giant muscular man that can take on Ghalta and win
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>>97026049
>cool voltron commander
Captain Howler
>I don't just want an artifact deck
Captain - no, hear me out - Storm, because the deck doesn't revole around artifacts, you just get buffed from their appearance. I made a pretty fun treasure-based Pirate tribal, you get to annoy all other players with pirate puns through as well.

What be the pirate's favourite letter?
Ye think it might be RRRRR! ... but his one true love be the C.
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>>97026147
Calling it a photocopier is entirely inaccurate
>It's the reason why AI's flaws are mostly in nonsensical details, because it doesn't "know" what it's making.
This is exactly why it's art you fucking idiot. Because you need to guide it through human creativity to actually make something. It's a tool to make art. Ai is a paintbrush.
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>>97026175
On the one hand I want to retain as much flavour (through intention, as in having my lands be my main fighters and eventual wincons) as possible, but on the other hand becoming one with the land does sound mighty earthbendy, huh...
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>>97026147
>anon is posting from 2022
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>magic card of my favorite underage waifu
>shoeless
>it's an overpriced mono-blue commander
>the only wincon is Thassa's Oracle

how do I play this against precons and not ruin everyone's day?
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>>97026193
You're not "guiding" anything. You're letting the machine trace whatever its algorithm determines fits the criteria to your prompt.
Why are AIfags so delusional?

>>97026200
You fags need better arguments.
The irony of the iterative tuning in AI algorithms is that in its early days of mass consumption online, the "hallucination" phenomenon was arguably close to being art, as the AI's attempts at half-assing its tracejobs created images that were surreal. As the technology was trained, and hallucinations occurred less, the image generation just got better at picking apart individual pieces. It's not learning anything, it's getting better at applying meticulous details even if they don't make sense in the context of the pic. That's also why AIslop has been gravitating towards replicating the same over-rendered digital art style as every other commercial product nowadays.
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>Leremy’s understandment
GR
Instant
CHANGE EACH INSTANCE OF EACH AND ALL TO TARGET ON TARGET SPELL


BLOOD DARKNESS ASSAULT
B
INSTANT
CHOOSE A SPELL AN OPPONENT CONTROLS. IT GAINS “IF AN ABILITY WOULD TRIGGER DURING THIS SPELLS RESOLUTION, IT TRIGGERS AND YOU LOSE 6 LIFE”

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IF AN OPPONENT WOULD WIN THE GAME THIS TURN, INSTEAD THEY LOSE THE GAME.

IF AN OPPONENT WOULD REPEAT THE SAME GAME ACTION 8 OR MORE TIMES(infinite loop), THAT PLAYER WINS THE GAME
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>>97024676
way to ensure it will continue for all eternity
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>>97026308
I guess I could play the Katara with shoes, but I don't really build tokens, does anyone have a list for her?
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>>97026309
>aage
Why would I need better arguments? You haven't made a single convincing point. Plus you sound retarded and i prefer having you not agree with me
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>>97026309
>can't even tripfag correctly
holy kek luddite melty
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>>97026338
>>aage
I'm tired and wanted to polite sage.
>You haven't made a single convincing point
No, I've given you several reasons. You in turn have just thrown around retarded AIbro talking points and flailed and samefagged when they didn't stand up to scrutiny. You've said nothing about how it operates other than a wildly inconsistent "it's a tool, but also it takes inspiration and learns art like an artist, but also it's just like a paintbrush!"

Honestly, I think people would like AI a lot more if slopper AIbros weren't insufferable retards.

>and i prefer having you not agree with me
Saar.
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>>97023774
Excuse you
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>>97026357
Knock this samefagging off too. It looks pathetic.
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>>97026309
You don't know what you're talking about and you're not worth engaging with desu
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>>97026367
what's pathetic is that you're a luddite in 2025 and that you're too mind broken to survive the next decade roru rumao
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>>97026363
>several reasons
You have written words yes. None of them convincing, most of them not even factual. You also haven't given a single distinction to separate AI art from real art that actually works.
>saar
>for a perfectly fine sentence
Lol.
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>>97026397
>Tard rage that says nothing
Never mind three posts into one, I just took all of (you)r content and abridged it into one statement.
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>>97026473
You have yet to make a compelling argument for anything you've said
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>>97026477
nobody wants to convince you of anything you retard, we just want you to shut up
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>>97024757
I'm taking this apart and making Toph the First Metal Bender but thought I'd post it
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>>97026477
Give >>97026363 a response, because the only point I see is you seething over being called a jeet.
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>>97026488
why would you think anyone wants to see this?
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>>97026502
it's better than arguing about Indians or whatever is happening here
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>>97026486
>>97026490
Samefag
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>>97026490
Why? That post is a bunch of complaining and no argument and the he calls someone (not me) a Jeet. What a pointless post
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>>97026513
sad but true. Cool Titania deck anon
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>>97026536
thanks anon
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>>97026486
>>97026363
>>97026309
>>97026147
Not trying to convince anyone btw
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>>97026488
>trading in my soul for gay shit
Would never admit to this
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>>97026308
You don't. You draw your whole deck or chain/loop infinite turn skips or proliferate poison counters.
It's an inherently toxic commander since it rewards not letting your opponent do things and the payoff is increasingly unfair card advantage.
This is my CEDH build that I have been having some decent success with.
https://moxfield.com/decks/2-DB34_g2EahRSckzoz9xg
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>>97026546
So you're just trying to shit up the thread?
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>>97026521
>Lalalala I can't hear you!
AIbros are actual children
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>>97026583
>No u
You already tried that and it didn't work
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>>97026546
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>>97026590
Judging by word count you are well over 1500 on the topic and im at 200. Its quite clear who is seething.
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>>97026586
If it were just a "no u" you'd have posted, at some point in the thread, how AI works other than wording it like blind mysticism.
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>>97026554
I just think she's neat is all
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>>97026603
The FFX laughing is hilarious too, if you know the context of the game. Tidus is fake laughing to try to cheer Yuna up because she's nervous.
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>>97026599
You're talking to multiple you schizo
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>>97026168
If you play alot of fetch lands you can go up to 40.
Having too many lands in your deck is only bad if you draw lands when you need to draw actual cards, and land ramp and land fetching fixes that.
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>>97026168
You need about 60 lands
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>>97026168
I don't go below 80
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>>97026308
Play Wizard's Class and anything else that synergizes with drawing cards specifically? Make your barefoot waifu start threatening commander damage.
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AI is the common man's personal artist. Simple as. Retail Joe wants a big tiddy toph gf on his magic card. He can either use AI and have money left for food at the end of the month, or he gives some artist his lunch money for a week. For retail Joe, this not a hard decision.
There is just one problem: If retail Joe uses AI, the undesirables of society will be very angry. Trannies, leftoids, and furries especially, since a lot of them are porn artists who absolutely LOATHE that retail Joe now has a tool that allows him to completely avoid them.
Always remember: Do not pay artists. Artists don't provide food, inventions or insights. All they do is provide entertainment, and to claim the world would be bleak without the propaganda of ideology-driven bootlickers is to fall for one of the biggest psyops in human history.
Destroy art. Burn art. Hunt artists down and round them up. Your days are numbered, artfags.
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>>97026775
>AIslop tries to appeal to the middle class to sell his corporate grift
"Retail Joe" can pick up a pencil or $60 tablet without contributing to the slop polluting the internet, there was no shortage of Toph r34 before this, and if he's that autistic enough that he needs Toph specifically he can spend a few weeks on /ic/. The worst part of your canned argument this time is that because of how AI gets trained, it consistently performs better when making established characters that it already has references of - that scenario isn't happening because the art already exists. What's actually happening is that AI is being used by hacks with no self-restraint ttying to outflood each other in an oversaturated market for attention. I can't wait for another reply from you that addresses none of that.

>Trannies, leftoids, and furries
Don't play that game when AIslop is pushed by jeets and libertarians.

AIbros are the stupidest people on the internet and probably the biggest reason to hate AI slop as a concept.
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>>97026841
>"Retail Joe" can pick up a pencil or $60 tablet
>"Timmy" can pick up a real magic card too btw
it delights me to no end how proxyfags that have no qualms playing with inauthentic cardboard are kvetching THIS HARD over inauthentic art kekaroo
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>>97026623
Don't believe i am but a dishonest person will say anything.
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I just like to goon
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>>97026841
>retail joe can..
Why would I? I do lots. AI can draw for me :)
>what's actually happening
Yep that does happen and that doesnt negatively impact me even remotely. Cant keep up id say its a skill issue.
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you are not allowed to jerk it to pictures of children
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>>97026876
Toph actually likes it so its fine
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>>97026849
It's funny because your strawman has a point. Functionally, a proxy is no different than an authentic card because they're both ultimately gamepieces. A sharpie over an Island, if allowed to be a proxy, functions exactly the same as a real Mana Drain.
The purpose of art is communication and entertainment. AI slop misses the mark and is not a replacement, because by its very design it's reliant on art existing and because of its trained direction looks worse than it's authentic counterpart, thus doing a worse job at performing that function. This is because AI isn't meant to be better than art, it's a tool for corpos and hacks to save money by pumping out low-effort slop, the difference being that instead of paying to some entitled artists in California to shit somethin out, they're paying some entitled techbro in Silicone Valley.

Your gif is of a hand-animated girl btw.
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>>97026841
>TL:DR- I don't like it REEE and you are brown!
You write a lot of words, but say nothing of substance.
You don't like it, cool. Shitting your pants on 4chan isn't going to change anyone's minds, nor will they change yours.
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>>97026874
>Flooding my favorite boorus doesn't affect me in any way!
>Wow I can't find any good porn pics of a cartoon character clearly I need AI
The cognitive dissonance...
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>>97026917
>I can imply you're a leftist tranny furry but you can't call me a brown libertarian because... YOU JUST CAN'T ALRIGHT?
You've made three posts so far and no arguments.
>Shitting your pants on 4chan
This whole thing started because someone told you or some other slopper to stop flooding your low-effort AI proxies.
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>>97026910
>AI isn't meant to be better than art
And yet it already is
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>>97026910
>The purpose of art is communication and entertainment
A sword made by AI does infact communicate it is a sword.
If the person who prompted it, or anyone who sees the finished product, enjoys it, it has also now qualified as entertainment.
Therefore, by your standards, it is art.
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>>97026934
That was my first post to you, and you made a bad argument.
When multiple people are telling you that you are wrong, consider that you are wrong.
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>>97026935
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy6fByUmPuE
lmao

>>97026936
>A sword made by AI does infact communicate it is a sword.
If you don't care about the quality of the piece, then you wouldn't be caring about the art enough to make a proxy just to have a big-tittied Toph instead of a normal one.

>If the person who prompted it, or anyone who sees the finished product, enjoys it
>If
And "if" the rest of the table doesn't want to see your low-effort overpolished crap, then what?
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>>97026910
>big bad corpo is going to profit? aaaaiieeee fuck you piggy
>oh no my queen artist is not going to profit because muh ai? aaaaaiiiieeee i'll defend you my queen
(You) being a simp for artists will not make them fuck (You) btw
>Your gif is of a hand-animated girl btw
oh NOW authenticity matters somehow? lmao
you proxyfags are hilariously stupid
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>>97026948
>My first post in this thread was getting mad that someone else got called brown on 4chan
At this point ChatGPT could make a more convincing lie for you.
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>>97026918
>my dad never taught me how to use tools and I will project endlessly
My AI is run locally anon. Nothing effects it is dont want it to. You seem to be floundering. Even with the mass of AI produced art AI is only getting more capable and diverse when you use online uncontrolled ones.
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>>97026910
>mtg cards are ultimately gamepieces
yes and art is just pixels
ah, westoids and their reductionism...
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>>97026983
Quality is irrelevant. You gave your definition of art, and AI meets that definition.
Now you are just moving goalposts.
>IF
People don't like Jackson Pollock. He still made art.
Some people do enjoy AI art, so yes, it meets your further qualifications.
You seem to have never realized you and your opinions are not the center of the universe.
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>>97027025
People don't like wotc. They still made the game.
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>>97026984
>Uhm, if we don't have AI the poor Joe will starve! It's the ONLY way he can be creative!
>>AI is pushed by corpos to make slop
>WOW LEFTIST MUCH!
wew

>oh NOW authenticity matters somehow?
If it didn't matter, you wouldn't have posted it.
Your pic is also something that someone digitally edited by concious choice from a picture of a hand-drawn character.
You want to pull this "muh artists bad" bootlicking, yet you don't even like AI enough to us it in your posts over actual art. Even I have a few admittedly funny shitposts made by AI on my phone.
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>>97027034
>If it didn't matter, you wouldn't have posted it.
lol i don't even care that you proxy
and yet i'm not the one crying over ai art like a total retard roru rumao
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>>97027006
Your dad never taught you how to use a pencil.

>AI is only getting more capable and diverse
No, it demonstrably isn't. It's homogenized. The only "capability" comes from its ability to trace minute details to give it the illusion of better rendering.
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I'm not entirely sure this guy has a point beyond just arguing for the sake of arguing, and that argument being "stop liking what I don't like."
I hope the rest of you stop engaging with this self-important, but vapid individual.
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>>97027062
>I hope the rest of you stop engaging with this self-important, but vapid individual.
nah i'm going to farm him for the lolcow that he is until the end of the thread hahaha
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You are the low ground, little guy.
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Is a man not entitled to Tophs fat juicy ass?
'No!' says the man on /edhg/, 'the art was made with AI.'
'No!' says the man in the Reddit, 'Toph can't consent.'
'No!' says the man in Twitter, 'she's a child.'

I rejected those answers; instead, I chose something different.
I chose the impossible. I chose... gooning.
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The color is on the card
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>>97027074
Kek
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>>97027011
>Reductionism
Not how that word works.
A proxy is a stand-in for a game piece. Its intended purpose is to be the same in every way. This is why WotC releases blank proxy carda and pic related when they do double-sided cards.

When you make an alter proxy, you are implicitly saying "I want this card to do more than represent a game piece, I want it to represent something in its visuals." At that point it's fair to jusge the wuality of the slop art.
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>>97027096
>A proxy is a stand-in for a game piece. Its intended purpose is to be the same in every way.
>A sharpie over an Island, if allowed to be a proxy, functions exactly the same as a real Mana Drain
>Same in every way
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>>97027096
AI art can be a stand in for real art too
what do you think people goon to at r34, you fool?
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>>97027059
Im an excellent writer actually. I garden i do construction i write i play instruments. Robots draw for me
>demonstrably isnt
You have lots of experience with generative AI?
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>>97027119
Ai art is not a stand in for real art.
Ai art IS real art
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>>97027134
>Ai art IS real art
correct
luddites in shambles
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>>97027134
This. Any other view is secular religious fervor
>no it lacks um... certain human qualities!!!
>show those qualities in humans? Nuhuh just believe me they exist!
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>>97026918
Hold up fella. I like busty fairy women who are 6-9 inches tall. Decidedly NOT children. Busty fairy sluts. And correct the internet is devoid of good content in that regard
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>>97027025
>AI art is so good! It's better than real art!
>>It isn't and can't be
>WELL OKAY BUT QUALITY DOESN'T MATTER!
What do you think "quality" means? What do you think is the qualifier for a visual medium to be judged on its communication of an idea or its entertainment if its visuals suck?
All thread, instead of actually addressing any argument made at you, (you)'ve tried to either avoid the points you don't like or try desperately to pull these stupid "gotcha" moments.

>Some people do enjoy AI art
Some people like eating literal shit too.
Most people are going to be weirded out by a sexual fixation of yours on a cartoon character from a decade ago, and most fans of the character are going to be disappointed that you're using slop that's just a generic digitally-painted big-busted woman with Toph's head stapled on.
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>>97027157
>it isnt and cant be
Why not? AI definitely produces better art than my hand does.
Your claims need to well substantiated if youre going to hold them as fact, which they are not.
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>>97027114
>>A sharpie over an Island, if allowed to be a proxy, functions exactly the same as a real Mana Drain
>>Same in every way
Yes. If I pay UU and cast it, your spell will be countered, and I will get mana equal to its CMC.
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>>97027157
>First line is a strawman
Ain't reading the rest. Sorry little buddy.
I'm sure it's just more goal post moving as I already proved twice your standards are flawed.
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>>97027119
Not-so-subtle admission that AI art is a pale imitation to the real thing, and thay AIslop floods boorus.
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>>97027157
>>Some people do enjoy AI art? well fuck some people like eating literal shit too!!
the luddite is SO MAD ai art has many use cases
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>>97027169
The same thing happens if I have a slut sucking a mage's magical balls dry on my proxy.
It functions exactly the same.
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>>97026876
Now you tell me!
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>>97027181
yes proxies are pale imitations to real magic cards because they are not the genuine article, simple as, duh
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>>97027157
>Food analogy
You've lost the argument completely kek
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>>97027181
>feed AI its inspiration
>erm... the boorus!!!!
I love how youre just floundering throwing out words you dont understand
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>>97027210
>AI bros think shit is food

Quick Google generate me a clever response to distance myself from these fools!
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>>97027226
You're the one who brought up coprophagia, not me.
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>>97027129
>Im an excellent writer actually
Your post is an excellent counterexample of that...

>You have lots of experience with generative AI?
Yes. I've been making past mentions throughout the thread to my experiences, even. I was around for Cleverbot, for Tay, and for the early days of the recent wave we're seeing.
AI slop has its place in meme culture, where an idea is more important than the quality of the art, which, if it's lacking, can make it even more absurd and impactful, and to give my personal take on imaging I was a huge fan of the hallucination days and thought the mass generation used for NFTs was knly a small handful of bad cases.
When they worked ChatGPT to be woke, that should have been the writing on the wall that the industry I'm stressing the whole industry here before anyone goes "but LLMs and not muh images" as if that matters was intending to cater towards a "safer," corporate demographic. It's not meant to be a creative tool anymore or anything worth anyone's time, it's meant to make filler content.
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So, how bout them magic cards
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>everyone on the thread is the same person!

oof but makes since poopdickschizo is also pro AI lmao
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>>97027153
>Zoomer can't find good Tinkerbell r34.

>>97027167
>Have you considered my skill issue?

>>97027171
>Nooo you can't strawman me by poinin out I moved my goalposts in a post where I accuse you of doing that!

>>97027210
>>Food analogy

Every single one of your desperate posts are shit
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Personally im looking forward to lorwyn
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>>97027255
I had to kill a deck recently because it kept winning too fast for my group's tastes. Pretty annoyed about that.
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>>97027267
>I lost the argument but I'm going to keep flailing!
Give it a rest.
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>>97027188
If you genuinely believed that, you wouldn't be getting a proxy with different art.
Again, the moment you go out of your way to change the art for the sake of changing the art, it's air to judge which art you put on it.

Stop slamming with those limpdicked one-line responses of yours and address the point.
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>>97027157
Nice straw man
You know why he said "quality doesn't matter" because it doesn't matter with so called "real" art either

Pic related, even what you call "slop" is better than this
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>>97027276
Dude you saw "eating literal shit" and thought "he's making a food analogy."
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>>97027247
proxy slop has its place in mtg culture too, where the idea of game pieces is more important than the authenticity of the cardboard, which, if one is a poorfag, can make games even more absurd and impactful
so yes ai and proxies are the same banana anon and you refusing to see this is hilarious
but go ahead keep going haha
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>>97027284
>because it doesn't matter with so called "real" art either
It doesn't. The point of a "real" card is to have a gamepiece that can be used in official settings. Art is secondary to that goal.
AGAIN, when you make a proxy to change the art, you are placing value on that art. It's fair then to judge the art.

Why do you keep missing that point?
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>>97027255
Thinking about making a Simic deck but I have no idea who to choose as my commander
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>>97027270
Me too, but I run tribal/typal/kindred or whatever they are called these days decks. Merfolks? Giants? Fearies? Elves? Oh Wizards, you cannot rape the willing, my wallet is wide open.
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Woof literally all the worst posters are in here right now. Imma go make an MPC order and check back in a few hours.
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>>97026910
>(you
Love this post. Is this a copy-pasta? I f not good job. I'll save it for future reference. Lots of potential for rattling people in all corners of the internet.
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>>97027311
Nobody can persuade me that she isn't the best... duplicate her friends which will duplicate her, cast aura on her friends which will cast auras on her and her copies, mutate her friends, which will mutate her and her copies, throw in some card draw and infect and let's go!
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>>97027290
You're trying to conflate AIslop with proxies now because you're starting to realize just how bad defending AIslop is, so I want to point out the implied strawman. Proxies are fine. AIslop is not. At no point in >>97026775 are proxies ever mentioned.
This whole thing started because some slopfag was advertising their proxies anyway, so I really don't get the whole "poorfag" angle either. If you're that pressed for cash, a printer of a scryfall image is simpler and faster.
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>>97027333
Broken bot
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>>97027307
>>97027279
>Your proxy has tits on it
>And?
>I don't like it
>And?
Glad we've boiled it down to this being your fundamental argument.
Seems really silly you wasted so much time on something so juvenile, but hey, this is 4chan,
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>>97027335
she actually seems fun, thanks anon
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>>97027345
>Proxies are fine. AIslop is not
To you. So don't use them.
That simple.
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>>97027307
>>97027345
>tournaments totally deck check every single deck
>this is not a logistical nightmare fr fr
The point of having "real" cardboard is to have something you can brag about that you are a connoisseur of human talent, because as much as you hate wotc, they are made up of humans, and they designed the game
so again, you can proxy all You want, but you are no different from the ai slopper you hate, because both of you are ignoramuses that don't know how to value human talent
>proxies are fine. aislop is not.
hahahaha sure man whatever (You) say we are totally going to adhere to a random anon's kvetching kekw
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I don't care if you proxy
I don't care if you coomer proxy
I care if your deck is built retarded.
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>>97027270
-1/-1 counters in Lorwyn!
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>>97027311
Kraj is my go-to Simic commander.
I tend to build it as Elfball with a healthy suite of counterspells and some combo pieces to allow Kraj to be the wincon.
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>>97027361
>Dude why did you make your proxy a cartoon child with tits?
>>WOW DON'T YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS REAL ART ITS NO DIFFERENT THAN A REAL CARD SHUT UP I WAS TOO POOR TO PRINT OUT A SHEET OF PAPER SO I PAID SOMEONE TO PROMPT ME THIS INSTEAD!
Hey, look, I can "I am silly" too
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>>97027382
This is all that should matter
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>>97027382
Define retarded
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>>97027398
I never heard of Kraj until now he actually looks pretty interesting, I don't think I have a commander similar to how he works
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>>97027379
>The point of having "real" cardboard is to have something you can brag about that you are a connoisseur of human talent
You're not wrong that's also a perk, but the intended purpose is to have something that could be spot checked at any time. They're not going to check every card, but there are autists that can tell by the coloration.
I can foresee the rebuke, "so sleeve them," but that effort to hide proxies then reinforces my point, since being caught with one is undesired in those situations.
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>>97027273
Always feels bad, I just did the same to my ghyrson starn and Stella Lee decks
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>>97027437
you need real art to have it pass an art gallery btw, same idea
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>>97027459
...What?
You don't even need art to proxy a card.
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>>97027459
There are art galleries of AI art
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>>97027483
and there are tournaments with proxies, it's usually called cedh
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>>97027496
So what was your point
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>>97027498
my point is that you're just as bad as the ai slopper you hate, anon-kun
don't throw stones at glass houses
just enjoy your proxies and be done with it
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>>97027483
You're acting like institutionalized art isn't a giant money laundering scheme. The intersection with the tech behind NFTs was inevitable.
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>>97027509
yes yes and your operation is totally not a scheme too zhang
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>>97027516
>If you're against AIslop you're pro-Chinese
wut
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The morons bought out Toph, Earthbending Master
Makes sense since Toph seems to easily be the best Jumpstart card. Jumpstart Katara is probably undervalued right now. It's actually pretty splashable as well.
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>finally, peace from graveyard shenanigans
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>>97027536
This is a fact
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>>97027536
>falling for the jumpstart bait
>yet again
jumpstart will be ripped for months and sold on a discout yet again. when will people learn?
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>>97027532
>If you're pro proxy you're more likely to be a benefit to zhang
yes and?
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>>97027597
Just use >>97027481 for your proxies or print them at home you retsrd.
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>>97027396
Scorpion God here I coom!
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>>97027608
>scribbles are enough to satisfy every proxyfag out there
what universe do you live in?
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>>97027578
this doesnt even block the biggest, gayest graveyard shenanigan: land recursion
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>>97027273
Basically my experience with Narset EE. Games were either way too fast and I got targeted right away and they were really boring. Might still go around for a new spell slinger/prowess commander
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>>97026004
No. You have 10 seconds to name 3 interesting dimir commies, go
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>>97027273
Had to do that to Animar, Estrid, and Karametra.
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>>97027650
>>scribbles are enough to satisfy every proxyfag out there
Yes.
If they aren't then use one as the backing from you printing a card at your house.
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>>97024742
Try to make a collage instead of posting individual cards.
https://old.photojoiner.com/
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>>97027247
>my post
Are written how i speak. This isnt a creative writing thread good cope.
>yes I used it years ago so I am up to date on everything
Answer this, what quality does human art have that AI art doesnt? And where do I find said quality?
>>97027267
Tinkerbell sucks, she does not have a sexy design.
>my skill issue
Is this supposed to be insulting? I dont care that im a bad artist, tools are there to be used. And now I have access to fantastic art precisely to my liking.
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>>97024757
Anons should post more decks instead of arguing about how sexy Toph is
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>>97027737
>pixelated art is also enough to satisfy every proxyfag out there
>yes and these poorfags all have a printer and ink and glue too
kekw
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>>97027721
I like the big Octopus i would say hes genuinely unique as far as Dimir goes. I dont dislike Golbez FWIW, I just dont think graveyard shenanigans and artifacts are particularly unique in Dimir, I mean Silas is played in cedh for precisely that reason. But ya I like the Octopus and Mirko personally and Szadek although he is beyond unplayable. I played around with Venser. Anyways have fun. Probably some obvious one im missing i have laying around somewhere but yolo
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>>97026308
Play proliferate and drawing payoffs.
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The color is on the card
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>>97027741
Would you like to see more?
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>>97027782
No
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>>97027782
No but I'd rather you post them all at once instead of shitting up the thread with 10 posts over 4 hours.
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>>97027273
Yeah I've soft retired decks for that reason as well. Ghave was one of those. Shame since I liked the potential stuff you could do with saproling spam. A friend of mine also did similarly with his LightPaws. Was Eshki that bad for your group?
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>>97027721
Scarab God, Lord of the Nazgûl, Obyra
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>>97027569
Same. We could use a hero like that again.
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>>97027782
yes
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>>97027782
Do any have visible pube peek?
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>>97027729
>Karametra
What was so bad about her? How did she overwhelm your group?
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>>97027765
> Silas
Not Dimir since its 4 color sloppa in disguise

> Marvo
This one is kind of interesting but its jank af. If it gets removed, its going to cripple the deck.

>Mirko
Ah yes, the clone tribal commander. Shes alright.
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>>97027821
Rapid ramp into big hydras. Usually sucker-punched a player out of the game pretty quickly. Didn't completely overwhelm games, but lead to a lot of 3-player games, so to speak.
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>>97027741
He already has one.
It's his Etsy store page front.
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>>97027721
Kels for Aristocrats
Silumgar for Dragon Tribal
Lord Ramses Archenemy Simulator
Jon Irenicus Bad Gifts
Circu Mill
Ur-Drago I'm a special little boy jank pile
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>>97027829
I think your issue is youre retarded and dont think for yourself, judging by this post. Youre also bad at it as Silas is 3c in disguise if you want to look at it in that disingenuous manner.
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Are we good? Can we talk about the game now?
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>>97027989
We were until (You) asked
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>>97027989
Sure. I think Forklift should have gotten it's own card
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>>97027835
Guess it makes sense. White and green usually lead to a lot of ramping and boosting and when your commander ramps on every creature things could reasonably get out of hand fast.
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>>97028011
Legendy vehicle, Forklift. What does it do?
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Do you have a card that fits into literally all of your decks?
I'm using a colorless card for mine but you can show off neat cards that you use in every deck with a specific color if you want.

And I'll preempt the sol ring, one ring, cultivate etc. tards ahead of time.
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>>97027887
Kek, ok Crim, cope harder
Yes your colors are dogshit outside of cEDH
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>>97028106
cheap and generic interaction (blas act, swords, beast within, offer you can't refuse)
generic commander protection (boots, comm plate)

actual answer:
anchor to reality in almost all my blue decks. grabbing an equipment or vehicle is great, some of the strong ones are cmc >5 so you can just sacrifice token and still be happy.
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>>97027414
If games against your deck leave me thinking my time was wasted.
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>>97027753
>I'm a good writer?
>Capitalizing "I" as a word and remembering basic punctuation! Woah there, this isn't a creative writing class!
If you're going to make multiple posts at every one of mine, can they be less dogshit?

>Tinkerbell sucks, she does not have a sexy design
Imagine being this gay.

>And now I have access to fantastic art precisely to my liking
Google existed before the big push for AIslop, dumbass.

>>97027760
>>yes and these poorfags all have a printer and ink and glue too
...Yeah.
If you're too poor to afford glue, you shouldn't be playing this game, much less spending money on proxies.
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>>97028140
What on earth are you talking about anon. You are terminally online and its genuinely embarrassing.
1. Silas is 2 colors.
2. Grixis is arguably the strongest color combo.
3. Please die youre retarded
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>>97028158
>all that rage
>cant answer the simple question posed
Again, what qualities does human art have that AI art doesnt, and where in the art can I find said qualities?
>IQlet needs proper punctuation and spelling or he cant keep up
Lol
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>>97028106
I just think he's cool. That he can hit almost anything means he's got an upside too. I end up making space for Meteor Golem in nearly every deck eventually. Especially in the decks with colors that have some cars types they can remove easily.
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>>97028221
>Again, what qualities does human art have that AI art doesnt
I already explained in >>97026147.
Let me put it in one word because you're ESL: rationality.
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>>97025706
Thanks homie
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>>97028221
Humans can make an image of a full glass of wine.
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>>97028270
Okay and where in the art do I find rationality? Lets use this image as an example, where do I locate the rationality within it?
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>>97028301
what's irrational about it? other than the retro-future aesthetic
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>unironically put this onto my maybeboard
I know this card's a meme and it's not difficult to find use cases for it, but I'm surprised it happened to me naturally.

>tl;dr
Gix aggro turbo draw consistently draws enough cards that I have to discard sometimes upwards of 5-10 cards, so I included some discard payoffs just because I'm discarding down to hand size often enough. Plus Gix himself is a discard outlet (at 7 mana though, ouch).
But I feel like I get enough value out of having one or two discard outlets that casting this right before combat damage to get those triggers first, or casting it after combat damage as a finisher with the right payoffs out could actually be viable.
The deck is low to the ground so it costing 1 mana is a big deal. I'm certain black's got some way better discard outlets but I'm not pumping 4+ mana into a single engine if it means I can't refill my board with cheap creatures.
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>>97028357
Thats not what I asked. Where do I find this quality that sets it apart from human art?
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>>97028106
I cannot understand why anyone wouldn't run this in a deck with black, other than they're in golgari and have more green sources for Fog.
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>>97028383
It's twenty burger bux.
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>>97028383
>costs $10
Fair argument against it.
>just proxy it
It's not exactly a powerful staple or anything. I don't think most people would complain if you did.
I can understand some arguments against proxying though. Mostly if your LGS owner is a tyrant and doesn't allow proxies.
No one should have to spend $10 on a fog.
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>>97028301
>where do I locate the rationality within it?
Could that place feasibly exist in 3D space? Are there any physical contradictions in it? Does it break any of its internal rules?
Also that looks cool and comfy, leagues better than that waifubait garbage you're spamming.

>>97028379
>Where do I find this quality that sets it apart from human art?
Apart? That picture is from Playboy for an article about being a male fantasy pad.
Do you even look at the shit you're posting?
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>>97028358
crazy that this card is even slightly considered for anything at all. oh, how far we've come
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This is a hard to describe feeling. Mini green text. Played 2 games, 3 hours. There was an attractive girl at the table with her boyfriend, and this neckbeard was trying to prove something

>guy is playing lots of removal/interaction
>decent player, even game
>guy keeps making these slight jabs at me
>endgame approaches, he casts farewell, all modes with a full board
>”here comes teferi’s!” - he seems genuinely upset that I predicted that
>I copy farewell ahead of teferis

He goes on to directly insult me a few times about letting the game drag on in my infinite wisdom, and when it gets to my turn, I get ozai/azula out to swing at him, and used skullcrack, killing him with 21 commander damage. He grins and contests it, judge comes over, he dies, gets sour and shoots daggers. It’s like he thought we were competing for the same ‘spot’ but he was a fat, rude neckbeard running edhrec slop, and I’m in shape, dressed well, and not using staples or a super optimized list.
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>>97028196
Seething
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>>97028519
yeah, you're a seething retard lol
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>>97028516
I haven't played since 2021, have there been any good new footfag cards?

picrel is my favorite from nuInnistrad
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>this is the only discard-to-destroy spell in black
>sorcery speed
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>>97028620
Just Flare of Malice bro
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>>97028631
That's like $2 plus it's not discard, it's sacrifice.
I don't wanna sacrifice my shit. I need those.
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>>97028638
Best I can do is Force of Despair
Take it or leave it
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>>97028586
Not really
https://scryfall.com/search?q=art%3Afeet&unique=art&as=grid&order=name
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>>97028660
Hmm hmm true true. That's not bad actually. A bit expensive but it fits what I'm looking for.
Thanks.
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>>97028698
that list is incomplete, but it has some good ones in there, depending on your specific brand of footfaggotry
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>>97028398
If I ever catch you proxying that card, I will kick you out of the store personally (I'm 400lbs) and then report the store to wotc per phone, e-mail and a few select payphones
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>>97028714
this nigga and Chandra's ignition is my goat finisher in Rocco
anyways, I think wotc should print another Chandra's ignition for 6cmc
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>>97028714
this fat fuck becoming essentially unblockable after eating 3 foods is the funniest shit in the world
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>tested demon reanimator against friend's esper blink
>play swamp, pass
>he draws, plays no land, discards archon of cruelty and grins
>my turn, play reanimate
>he scoops
good test bro
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Proxy for my Oketra deck
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>>97028941
I actually like this one
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>>97028971
thanks
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>>97028941
At least tell the AI to draw it in an illustrated painterly style.
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>>97028106
I put a handful of the same goblins in every deck. Specially because I like Goblin Chirurgeon and want to be able to reasonably use it every game.
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>>97028941
The nickname frame should be placed under the legends title frame.
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>>97029029
>Make it appeal to me!
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>>97029068
Nah, he's right. It would be more convincing as a sard design.
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all the clue dorks in avatar why isn't there another thraben inspector?
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>>97028941
Hmmm this image lacks.... rationality.
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>>97028106
in what kind of token deck would you realistically put him? always wanted to make a big mana+tokens deck with him as the finisher
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>>97029226
It also does not communicate nor entertain.
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They didn't like my deck again. ;_;
I'm done with blue. Friendship with blue is officially over. Give me non-blue deck ideas.
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>>97029284
If your opponent likes your deck it's because you're letting them get away with stuff you shouldn't. You need more counterspells.
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>>97029264
He was a decent budget finisher in Anim Pakal, but now that Cather's is dirt cheap and Porcelain Gallery exist he is kinda pushed to the side again.
Is breakthrough is skill good, but likely unneeded when you are in a place to finish anyway..
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>>97029284
Ultima to shut off a niggas triome
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>>97028941
Zased
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>>97029284
Pick a card type to focus on
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>>97029264
Personally I run him in budget flying men decks like Edric, Toski, Indomitable, and Gix that just flood the board with cheap creatures and dig for wincons.
There are better overruns, especially in green, but Graaz is 50 cents.
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>>97029266
Hmmm quite indeed, a black mark on AIs reputation. I fear it wont live this down.
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>$20 for this pos
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>delay, english
50 cents.
>delay, french
8 euro.
Why?
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>>97029389
Delay's name in French is Retard.
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>>97029404
no need for name calling, what's the name in french?
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I'm always working on Abdel decks, never sure if I'm making them any better though:
https://moxfield.com/decks/4DrrsJtHEUKXQabYg7eD9w
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>>97029466
this is the most autistic deck list I have ever seen
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Building Jund midrange goodstuff. Pretty set on my 99, but not sure what commander to slap in the command zone. Currently leaning towards Korvold, Gleeful Glutton as a late game tempo swing to break parity.
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>>97029542
The OG Korvold is the ultimate Jund midrange value generator, everything else attempting the same strategy is either a strictly inferior option or has some more specific synergies baked in, and therefore not really being 100% Jund midrange goodstuff.
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>>97029477
thank you?
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>>97029592
I don't care about my commander being useful throughout the game. The commander's role is to be a pocket card I can drop and benefit from when I'm out of resources otherwise. The 99 of a deck should be able to stand without the commander being in play.
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>>97029464
We already told you, Retard.
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>>97029610
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What are ways I can blink this guy or get around his exile effect in rakdos colors?
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>>97029610
Yeah, and the best commander for a Jund deck with that philosophy is OG Korvold. It's fine if you want to build something with more specific synergies, but if you say "I want a goodstuff pile that stands on it's own and I just want my commander to be extra value" then every other option is just inferior.
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>>97029592
OG Korvald and that overpushed Hearthhull spaceship bullshit are the best commanders for jund goodstuff value piles.
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>no azula card can run the dai li
>if hybrid rules change goes through, she only gets Long Feng (who canonically didn't side with her)
WTF WIZARDS
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>>97029636
Yeah but Hearthhull and several other Jund commanders specifically steer you towards a lands-based strategy, if you're talking sheer generic value then it's Korvold bar none. Yes I know that technically it's based around sacrifice synergies but it's so trivial that it makes it the most "neutral" of the bunch.
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>>97029627
Prossh is pretty close you just trade treasure synergies (incredibly generic) for go-wide synergies (incredibly generic). summoning a fuckton of dudes on cast trigger is just something that's good.
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>>97029542
Lord Windgrace obviously. He refills your hand, recurs your fetches, and destroy a pile of permanents. What more could one want?
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>>97029662
Korvold draws cards.
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>>97029643
>dai li
I know they're glowniggers, but I never understood in the show why the Dai li betrayed the earth nation and sided with Azula so easily. If I were the Dai Li I would have captured Azula to use as a hostage and bargaining chip to try and make Firelord Ozai end the war and stop attacking Ba Sing Se.
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>>97029665
I can think of a lot of easy ways to draw cards with 7 creatures. yes draw is better korvold is better, prossh is still really good.
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>>97029662
Yeah but turning all your spells into cantrips just because you used a treasure to cast them is just plain ridiculous. He quickly grows into a wincon by himself too, just in case you were afraid that your deck would be lacking in ways to close out the game despite generating so much value. Korvold is just one of those things that was made before they started slapping once per turn clauses on everything and is therefore unlikely to ever be surpassed.
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>>97029675
Prossh is still really good. Prossh is also much more interesting than Korvold. Prossh is maybe my favourite Jund commander over all.
Prossh is not close to Korvold though.
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>>97029662
Do a thing draw a card is just straight up better. Prosh, once the undisputed king of jund, has been powercrept to irrelevancy.
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>yeah bro this card is ass, 7 mana speels need to win you the game on the spot
ok bitch name 5 cmc 7 cards that win you the game
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>>97029284
Post deck
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>>97029729
Hullbreaker horror
Etali
Ruinous Ultimatum
Approach of the Second Sun
Peer into the Abyss
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>>97029284
Which Bligger did you run? What do you feel like trying?
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SOON
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God I love proxies
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>>97029284
find a new group. Or persist in the doomed world you created
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>>97029948
delet this we only play SFW rebecca proxies around here
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>>97029966
I don't consider that NSFW
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>>97029948
>>97029966
These are literally fucking fine.

I would prefer if you included artist credit too, but that's my specific brand of autism, so I can't flip out over it. I guess I can almost see a signature on the second one.
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>>97030002
>I would prefer if you included artist credit too
this one was positioned just right
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>>97029948
Where do you make proxies? I've got a set of proxies I've wanted to make (LobCorp/Ruina; Malkuth as Torbran, Yesod as Ghyrson, Hod as Vito, Netzach as Necrobloom, Tiphereth as Akroma/Kamahl partners, Chesed as Maelstrom Wanderer, Gebura as Slicer, Binah as Hapatra, Hokma as Arcades, Carmen as Eriette, Angela as Zabaz, Ayin as Ardyn, and Roland as Kotis; plus thematic arts for cards in their decks)
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>>97029613
okay now you're the one being retarded. Just tell me what the fucking card's french name is
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>>97030037
I just took that one off mpcfill. Ghyrson has a lot of alt-name proxies for some reason.
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>>97028620
Bitter Triumph?
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>>97029674
>but I never understood in the show why the Dai li betrayed the earth nation and sided with Azula so easily.
Because crazy pussy causes men to do bad things
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>>97029674
men fucking LOVE BPD
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>>97030129
True. That's 2cmc though. You could do way better at 2cmc.
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>>97030159
Are there really that many 2-mana instant speed kill spells with no real conditions?
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I'd give Azula at least 10 firebending students if you know what I mean
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>>97030036
This show is so lame and gay
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if you pull this out at my table I'm giving you a wedgie and taking your lunch money
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>>97028714
They better be making more fat fuck food support in the next hobbit set
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>>97029966
>Spider-Man
>Spider-Man, Japan
Want to pick this up at some point.
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>>97030303
I genuinely don't get the appeal either. It's just shonen slop with a really pandering romance on top.
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>>97030403
This is real?
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>>97030417
>MTGcardBuilder.com
Nah. Which border looks better?
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This is kind of obscene with earthbending, no?
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>>97030488
I prefer the other one
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>>97030490
AIIIEEEE MLD
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Did anyone else notice how the wave of covid tourists is currently falling apart? Most of the people I know who started straight with commander during the covid year stopped playing this year.
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>>97030490
Actually yes
Thanks for the suggestion for Toph hardheaded
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>>97030556
That'd be nice. It's been a while since I went to the lgs. 0 tables available when I didn't rush there straight from work put me off it and my board game bros have finally started adopting it to our rotation anyway.
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>>97030557
Building that as we speak. Was just going through the EoE jund precon to see if it had anything I wanted and saw that card.
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>>97028383
>pod doesn't let you run Harold McNeill cards because he is a Nazi
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>>97030736
he's also a trash artist
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>>97030752
His shit slaps, hard.
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>>97030752
Gain taste.
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>>97030777
Let's just be honest. He is le based nazi so you feel required to like him for political reasons. His art is shit, poorly made, poorly colored, and unironically he's in the bottom 5 artists.
You like him for non-art reasons and you can never ever ever prove otherwise. Especially when you felt the need to point out politics.
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>>97030736
wait does this guy just draw the same spooky hooded guy every time
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>>97030587
Any other gems anon? I'm having a little bit of trouble putting together the deck myself
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>>97030859
pathetic
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>>97030859
Booo
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>>97030787
spooky hooded guys are core white man's culture. love 'em spooky hoods, what can I say.
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Anyone going to Pax Unplugged?
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>>97031007
EDH at cons is almost always gay. You pay for a badge and then potentially pay to get event tickets to play against 3 other sweats vying for ez prize tickets or some shit. I did once do a fun modified precon tourney at gen con at a pub where the ticket at least paid for lunch and some shots.
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>>97030785
I like it, not into the nazi shit though.
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MAKE A NEW THREAD ALREADY
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>>97031212
Coomette edition
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>>97031212
okay give me a minute
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>>97031454
>>97031454
>>97031454



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