When did the decline of Magic begin?
>>970429701993
>>97042970The reserved list was the beginning of the end. Agreeing not to print the game because of 'collectors' sperging out.
>>97042970>When did the decline of Magic begin?The same time most other forms of fiction started to decline rapidly: August 2014.
>>97042970Whenever (You)r favorite set released.But seriously I'd probably say around 2019-2020 was the biggest drop.>FIRE design and a bunch of crazy pushed shit like Solo>First Secret Lairs>First Universes Beyond>Introduction of Collector Boosters>Arena-first design >Companion>Thassa's Oracle
A few years after WotC started printing dedicated commander shit. I hopped on early on before they were printing things that rendered old incidental EDH commanders from ancient sets utterly irrelevant, and once they ramped that up (and then sold completely out) I lost interest in the game as a social toolModern and standardbabs probably have different views but to me the EDHification of the printings probably killed the entire game and I only played for a few years before I watched the window slam shut on the game not sucking my balls
>>97042970Tiktok hobbyist migrating en masse. I wish for Warhammer 40k to experience the same.
Either RL or when they moved from WAACHADS to catering to casual shit eaters.
>>97042970The cruel truth is Magic is not declining, and is in fact "better" than ever because the goal of Magic: The Gathering is to sell as much as possible.That aside, it was the 2010s and the EDHification that set in motion what most of us consider the decline. That was the beginning of WotC's transition to a new audience (merchandise buyers rather than game players), and the change in design priorities to support that new audience.I would personally point to the EDH decks and Theros as the moments they were first truly tempted by cynical power creep and "haha recognize THING" (respectively) as routes to sales.
>>97042970when every piece of card art became homogenous, when every card, every setting, EVERYTHING just became a visual slop of generic fantasy
Gonna say it was innistrad block era. Innistrad was fun, but for my taste the game peaked in zendikar and new phyrexia standard. Edh was there and fun, but new cards weren’t being printed specifically for it yet and skewing the standard game. I fucking loved playing tezzeret control. What a fun deck.
>>97042970It heavily depends on what you consider to be "the decline of Magic.">If it's ado with collecting, it's when the Reserve List started.>If it's ado with the story, it's the introduction of new Planeswalkers after the Mending.>If it's about the game's integrity as its own ideal, it's when they first started printing alternate name and art versions of cards matching other works of fiction.>If it's ado with what playing Magic is about, it's either when Commander becomes official, or when the game starts to lose support for live play in favor of being played digitally on Arena.
>>97043508>WAACHADSWhite, Asian, Autistic?
>>97043737"A cohesive, modern fantasy aesthetic that is distinctly Magic: The Gathering(tm)"
>>97042970When you faggots abandon the game. Stop buying cards, even from resellers. Stop attending FNM. Stop buying boxes for booster drafts. When someone asks you about magic, say you don't care about that shit. You need to fucking smother it and kick it out of your mind where it currently lives rent free, because it is costing you and everyone else extremely large sums of money.
>>97043725>is in fact "better" than ever because the goal of Magic: The Gathering is to sell as much as possible.Go to Hell, Friedman.
I still enjoy Magic a lot. Mainly draft but Pauper is also in a very fun state now that High Tide is dead again
>>97043229>old incidental EDH commanders from ancient sets utterly irrelevant,commanders hardly matter to good commander decks and a good chunk of modern CEDH decks were printed before 1999.
>>97043858That is literally not true. If the commander didn't matter everyone would be running Jodah or any other 5C slop to gain access to every color. Having an 8th (or 9th) card that you can always cast is an insane upside and you're crippling yourself by not making heavy use of it in your deck.
>>97043858People destroyed their deck consistency to pay 3 mana to put Yorion on their hand, you're retarded if you think any CEDH deck can get away with ignoring their commander
>>97043860kraum is one of the commanders for the longest reigning best deck of the format and hardly anyone bothers to ever cast him, same with silas for another top tier deck. you're crippling yourself by trying to build around one card rather than just playing to having the highest average card quality with no clear point of failure. both are just chosen for color access.and again, a good chunk of cedh decks were printed before the towers fell. if you quit because "uggghhh zur isnt good enough anymore" you're coping.
>>97043009Who the fuck is this and what does she have to do with magic the gathering?
>>97043874They cast Tymna, which is paired with Kraum. Kraum decks are Tymna decks with two extra colors.
>>97043887The culture war that has spilled into every facet of the entertainment industry started because she couldn't stop blowing game journalists for good reviews.
>>97043874Kraum has an ability called "partner" which lets you put another, more playable card in the command zone.If the deck didn't intend to cast him or another partner, it wouldn't be a Kraum deck at all, it would simply run, I dunno, Marina Vendrell if getting access to all the best cards in the game was truly the only thing that mattered.
>>97043918I asked who this person is. You gave some rambling bullshit.
>>97043928Anon her name is literally in the picture.
>>97043931Let me explain this to you slower because your mother's favorite past time appears to have been "drop the baby."I asked who this person is. This is a pretty simple question.Your reply starts with "the culture war..."Motherfucker I can read her name. But I am ask you to explain why this person is relevant. Because I know it's going to be some terminally stupid bullshit like "she made some twee bullshit indie rpg and I'm crashing out hard about it 10 years later" but I want you to have to explain that.
>>97043944how new are you?
>>97043944>But I am ask you to explain why this person is relevant.You got your answer and you called it "rambling bullshit", so I can presume you already know the answer to your own question and are just pitching out rhetorical devices as a preprogrammed response to this subject.
>>97043953Honestly? I have no fucking clue who this person is. Name is vaguely familiar but I have no idea what the fuck they actually did to get you so pissed off.
>>97043967>>>reddit>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>97043967I'll give you the cliff notes version:>Quinn makes shitty games>gives blowjobs to journalists for good reviews>her ex-boyfriend outs her after finding out she cheated on him>she starts receiving public backlash, then runs to social media to cry about how she's being oppressed by the consequences of her actions>keyboard warriors engage eachother the same way they do now>culture war sparks, Quinn and cunts like Anita Sarkeesian are put on pedestals and start lobbying entertainment corporations to hire people like them as consultants for "diversity and inclusion">the policies they bring to the table start proliferating beyond videogame corporations everywhere from Hollywood to Wizards of the Coast>fast forward to today>Wizards is peddling gay Beholders on their social media account, every old beloved tabletop RPG is being whitewashed and queered up to its eyeballs>all the while the initial social conflict has erupted into a massive culture war spilling into politics and other real-life spaces like 40k tournaments and conventionsThat simple enough for you?
>>97044016Oh okay.So some dude got pissy that he got cheated on and now every website sucks ass. Got it.
>>97042970August 5th, 1993.
>>97044213Yes, mighty conflagrations begin with a spark.
>>97042970Mirrodin
>>97043001>>97043001So 1995?
>>97043011>Honestly War of the Sparks>static abilities on Planeswalkers>first block in FIRE design>alternative arts of cards>special stain glass promo's in secret lairs>the first Secret Lairs were released then.It was definitely in decline before that, but War definitely was the end. Next set had numerous alternative arts/borders, chase variants, the removal of the block format, and collector boosters.
>>97042970>>97044246Came here to post it.
>>97044213>feigning ignorance>feigning ignorance to run defense for milady quinn in current year +11You're pathetically transparent, you know.
>>97042970Mythic rarity
>>97043918Is the good review she traded a blowie for in the room with us right now?
>>97044213Wait until you hear what kickstarted the yugoslavian war
>>97044763We're not even in the same room, Anon. Wake up and take your meds.
>>97043944It's sad how well the obfuscation campaign worked that we get posts like these.That is assuming it's genuine and not a paid shill like it always has been.
>>97044492>Got into magic in 98, stopped caring around 05so I was right all along?
Unironically?It started with Spiritmonger.
>>97042970For me it was with the indroduction of planeswalkers which I have always hated for generating way too much value and being difficult to interact with so game basically becomes either you remove the planeswalker immediately or you lose. The introduction of mythich rares also killed my motivation to buy the product when all the good cards became much more expensive which was pure cashgrab.
>>97045089That is shockingly pushed for 2001. Is that real?
>>97045383It was a contest card. Someone won a contest and got to design a card. Yes it is real. It was considered one of the strongest cards in Apocalypse when it came out.
>>97043944lurk moar or go back
>>97045089Damn I loved that card. Had it in my five color sliver deck.
>>97043858Commander designs becoming a priority is literally the flash point that start turning MTG into what it is now. Commander as a priority is directly responsible for why there are crossover sets and a dozen other things that eroded MTG.
>>97044016>>gives blowjobs to journalists for good reviewswhat good review?
>>97042970Lorwyn with hybrid manathen Scars of Mirrodin with Phyrexian mana
>>97047400Hybrid mana started in ravnica, which Richard Garfield helped design, and is a flavor win. Phrexian mana is a mistake on the same level as free spell.
>>97046902>top billing in article>"powerful Twine darling"Face the music already.
I lost interest after return to ravnica
As with all things in modern modern society, with covid
>>97042970I'd say the death of the Core Set. The first time. 2014 is a nice easy turning point and M15 was the last core set until they tried them again years later. And almost every set afterwards was dogshit and they started ruining EDH the year after and not long after they threw away the good block format and started doing the crap they are doing now.
Is it true that Mark Nosewater wanted a cheater to get in to the hall of fame?
>>970450895 mana 6/6 no drawback, man people splashed just to put this alongside pernicious deed back in the days
>>97045089This guy was one of my friend's favorite cards, which was fine because I would generally just fly over him. Mildly upsetting that there weren't any cards that strong in my colors, but I've gotten quite used to Boros being constantly skipped over.
>>97043009>The same time most other forms of fiction started to decline2007?
>>97044492Your "beginning of the end" era was actually the best magic has ever produced
>>97042970When Círdan and the last of the Elves passed into the West.
>>970429702016. The end of the three-set block is the big one, because most of the other problems precipitated down from it.
>>97042970Reserve list.
>>97042970african aragorn
>>97054416"the economy" means how many africans there are
The introduction of planeswalkers is an obvious blipcommander precon decks are another one I think the real writing on the wall came much more recently though. Somewhere around the 3rd ravnica set. FIRE has been a massive change to the way the game has been designed.
>>97054416What hard questions do I need to be asking myself?
>>97054416>make Aragorn black>make Gandalf black>make Theoden black>make Galadriel black>but Arwen is still whiteWhat did they mean by this?
I think 2015/16 was the first real signs of damage. Not just a mistake here and there but actual thoughtless negligence. BFZ introducing fetchable duals in standard enabling 4c slop costing $800+ for a standard deck. Eldrazi winter where they basically outright admitted they don't care about testing let alone thinking about modern. Shadows/Moon were actually fine, until the next set which had Aetherworks Marvel leading to a deck that would mindslaver you T4 on a flying trampling 13/13. While also introducing energy as a mechanic. Plus the twin ban. None of these mistakes, among many others in this time, should have happened if they had taken literally 2 minutes to think about any of it. Next year would see things like 5 cards having to be banned out of standard, including a turn 4 infinite that curved into itself. Also around here is the jacetice league, introduction of expeditions and $$$ chasing, and a major ramping up of commander.
>>97044492I stopped playing magic because I thought it was getting stupid and that was in '99 apparently. Holy shit I am old!
>>97042970When planeswalkers went from being the framing device of the game to being a card type.
>>97044016The only thing I want to add is that there is a MASSIVE amount of gaslighting surrounding the truth. Just reading the Wikipedia article sheds so much light on how warped the narrative is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate
When Magic lost priority to Commander.
>>97042970Homelands was the beginning of the end
>>97042970Arabian nights
>>97059450Patrician take
>>97056348>Not just a mistake here and there but actual thoughtless negligenceDefinitely. None of these issues were going to be fatal though for several more years. The design decisions that killed the game can absolutely be traced back to 2015ishalso the m15 border is ass, I wont hear otherwise.
>>97042970Revised. Unironically.
>>97043009Crazy that this slut's inability to keep her legs closed literally led to the election of Donald Trump.
>>97061305I know the cliffnotes version of gg but what actually happened with all that?
>>97061628Like, the result of all of it? Total Gamer Defeat. A few small journo companies had layoffs or restructures, but gamergaters cucked out and lost all influence over their own industry.
>>97061628>Everyone freaked out on twitter>A bunch of eceleb grifters got a lot of attention>Somehow it took this random chick sleeping around to make people realize that gaming "journalism" is all just bullshit and paid off, a fact that everyone with more than room temperature IQ realized 20 years ago. >Ultimately nothing happened besides said grifters getting tons of money and attention for no reason at all while whiny manchildren cried eternally about women or something>Video games still suckThat's pretty much it
>>97061628>>97061663Don't forget that they were overwhelmingly WHITE whiny manchildren. URGH, yucky!So anyway, this is why all videogames need to be thinly veiled propaganda for gay race marxism.
>>97042970I'd say 2015 which was the birth of the gatewatch.
>>97051829kamigawa was awful
>>97061628>what actually happened with all that?a long downward spiral into culture war bullshit that end up causing corporations to commit suicide for some inexplicable reason. Hulk Hogan vs. Gawker Media was a fun one. More recently videogame publishers have been imploding because they've drunk too deeply of the "consulting firm" kool aid. circling back: It's an industry-wide problem for entertainment at this point. QED: Gay Beholders
>>97050509>2007This, Shadowmoor was the last good block.
>>97061660wew, now this is cope
>>97061628Ho fucks around on her bf > callout > compact lies from gamehacks > 4chan becomes ground zero for asshurt about it because uncensorable by redditniggers and other bought shitbirds > transmogrifies into general opposition to shitlibs > it's /pol/ o'clock babey!!! > meme magic > DRUNBPF into office
>>97061663Didn't some website get shutdown in the aftermathI remember some people basically saying GG was successful
>>97042970I never got into magicIs that the card thats worth a few thousands? Fucks up with that. Its just cardboard you dumb nerds
>>97042970it was a slow decline:>FIRE design>shitty pandering art>more focus on queerbaiting than quality.>box toppers that weren't alternate versions of cards in the set, but original cards.>making special edition collector boosters you had to special order online, appealing to whales and investoooors.>shoehorning blacks in the art.>modern horizons2 and 3>universes beyond, which is essentialy reserve list 2.0>focusing more on EDHwhy even still play this game?
>>97047640>"top billing"That's the least significant drama ever. A free game mentioned among 50 others.Yes, you should really mention it's your buddy's game, but I'd be highly skeptical of that being a situation where sex was exchanged for reviews.It's like nepotism, not a quid-pro-quo. Nepotism way worse than this is (sadly) tolerated everywhere.
>>97055919It means that they hate money, hate you, hate MTG, hate Tolkien, hate whites, and hate themselves but like ruining things others like because it's ideologically convenient and it soothes their narcissist ego.
>>97068826It looks like they photoshopped the head of some random woman in Detroit onto a lady knight.
>>97042970When they went fully woke and basically started hating all the white male characters. Hell when the last time they made a fucking white male Planewalker that wasn't gay or villain? The story turn to shit since Gatewatch, and them going all in on just throwing new sets rather than keeping to blocks hasn't help them too much. I think they turn into a Fortnite type of game where they just make different IP sets for the game over their own shit. (Maybe a set here and there.) I mean between Avatar, Spider-Man, Final Fantasy, Ninja Turtles, Star Trek, etc. It's clear they mostly going for whatever sells rather then working on the brand.
>>97043009The golden era of everything was the late 90s-the first half of 2000s.
>>97056348>>97059674It's misery to know that I lived through the last good years of Magic and watched it curdle before my eyes until I couldn't take any more. At least the memories can rest in peace.
>>97044752>>97045157>MythicFucking this, I've always maintained that this was when WotC spurned any good faith players had in them.
>>97068826The only reason to play is if you enjoy the game engine.
>>97043944holy shit this post is so fucking retarded, i hope you were trolling. its so bad i'm not gonna be reading anything else in this thread to find out.
Dropping to 2 set blocks was tye clincher >>97043725My question is, how the fuck did sales ever recover after they sent Pinkertons after a customer.
>>97070004>how the fuck did sales ever recover after they sent Pinkertons after a customer.Step 1: PaypigsStep 2: OINK OINKStep 3: profit
>>97070004Unironically non-player participation e.g. rudy
>>97070004The current political landscape is such that a company sending pinkertons after someone barely gets more than a "damn that's crazy". Maybe 15 years ago it'd actually be enough of a controversy but not now.
>>97069492>When they went fully woke and basically started hating all the white male characters. Thats not what makes a game bad> Hell when the last time they made a fucking white male Planewalker that wasn't gay or villain?Lukka both was and wasn't a villain. They fucked up the writing and it was contradictory between cards and the books. I think there was an elf guy.I think they prefer to use older established characters. Jace gets reprinted often. There's also sorin and garruk who are both still alive. Gideon is dead but he gets reprinted.
>>97062483>circling back: It's an industry-wide problem for entertainment at this point. QED: Gay BeholdersWhat the issue with that promo art?
I came back to this game after 20 years. I don't like planeswalker cards. It takes away from the idea that you are the planeswalker. And I don't get why you get a card that creates a new resource by just paying one mana cost.
>>97043725>therosWas a fairly weak, unimpactful setThe commander sets, specifically the ones from 2015-17 when they started ramping up the powerlevel are definitely the beginning of the end though. Nothing wrong with EDH as a format but making cards specifically designed for it while ignoring the potential impact to constructed formats was a disaster. It got even worse when these commanderslop cards started forcing their way into standard sets starting in 2018 or so, at least before they were only legal in eternal formats like legacy.Now EVERY FUCKING SET whether standard or side set is just commander slop. Look up the number of legendaries by year.
>>97072252I think the point about theros was moreso about the thematic direction they took the game in. Everything from scars block onward has just been a heavy handed collection of references or return to x planes save for khans.
>>97051829You had fun as hell deck construction because of the broken ass mechanics during those years, however, that was also when MtG clearly stopped giving a shit about making anything resembling a balanced game and started releasing yearly editions for legal tournament play. It was the start of putting mechanics not just on the back burner, but on the stove in some other guy's house, while they focused on spamming shit for maximum profit.
>>97071989>Thats not what makes a game badHard disagree
>>97061305>>97061628>grifter who gets by playing the sexism card uses sex to succeed>gets called out after she fucked a Kotaku journalist for a good rating>instead of cutting their loss, Kotaku and its parent company Gawker decided to throw gamers under the bus, calling them sexist, misogynist, etc>instead of being cowed, the gamers just lean in, "yeah, that's us, what are you gonna do about it?">no other notable results>jump to 2016 (and beyond), Dumb-o-crats attempt the same tactic, specifically trying to shame young, white men into voting for them "or else">shockingly, they vote against the people verbally abusing them>Democrats learn nothing, if last year is an exampleYou can draw more parallels with other opportunistic grifters, e-celebs, and various virtue signaling to tie it back to the original topic of the thread, but the point of it is, maybe insulting people isn't the best way to get them on your side.
>>97044765Was it collectable card games?
>>97072002>What the issue with that promo art?Gee I dunno, what's wrong with promo art where everything is a faffy homo faggot parade including a Lawful Evil Aberration present in the middle of a settlement in broad daylight that is apparently quite happy with aforementioned faffy homo faggot parade? Why yes I'm sure that sexless alien monster that kills on sight fits right in.
>>97072880>Democrats learn nothing, if last year is an exampleSome of them figured it out after getting reamed a year ago, James Carville for example was openly calling for throwing the entire woke platform overboard. Who knows if that faction will be able to win before they get their asses handed to them in another election though, Mamdani getting elected in the bluest city in America seems to have emboldened the psychotic commie end of the party.
>>97072340To be fair Innistrad, which came out before theros, was just a collection of horror tropes/references (only difference that set was actually good and not slop). Not every set can be original kino like mirrodin, khans or zendikar
>>97074453beholders aren't always lawful evil.
>>97069294Legitimately everything about this art is bad.- retarded weapon, I won't even call it a spear- recruiter has stupid haircut- recruiter is fat- there's a floating rock in the background, fucking why- left male stupid haircut- second male shitty haircut- right male the stupidest haircut- banners are ripped and shit for a recruiting drive
>>97072880>>grifter who gets by playing the sexism card uses sex to succeed>>gets called out after she fucked a Kotaku journalist for a good ratingAre you talking about this article? https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/admission-quest-valve-greenlights-50-more-games>Every day, approximately 43 billion new indie games spring into existence from mysterious ethers far outside the realm of human comprehension. We approach these portals into The Beyond with great apprehension, then we scuttle away with our bounty, arms and hearts full of excitement and terror. We call this process "game development," and it will probably bring about the end of the world. Until then, though, someone needs to curate these things, so Valve blasts new finds with its organizational death laser, Steam Greenlight. Yep, that's exactly how it all works and this is not just me filling space because I've written far too many Greenlight posts at all. Anyway, standouts: powerful Twine darling Depression Quest, surrealist Thief usurper Tangiers, and sidescrolling epic Treasure Adventure World.>[...]>So there you go: 50 games. And hey, Windforge made it. That's the one about mining sky whales because... yeah! Which games of this batch catch your eye?Yes, you should really mention it's your buddy's game, but I'd be highly skeptical of that being a situation where sex was exchanged for reviews.It's like nepotism, not a quid-pro-quo. Nepotism way worse than this is (sadly) tolerated everywhere.
>>97079089sure, sure, and paladins aren't always lawful good. but riddle me this: what the fuck is the point?
>>97055919they meant amerikwa is literally a sex cult that worships demons as gods
>>970429702007
>>97061628Ignore all other poster. Real answer here:>GG starts before Quin based on the journo space for games being in bed with corporate interests(IGN spamming 8/10 for any game the company had money to pay them no matter how shit it is for example)>QuinnPost is posted on internet and 4channel picks it up. Most people make fun of the guy for whining about being a poly cuck but the sheer audacity realized by anons seeing a game like depression quest getting airtime on real websites leads to outrage.>Combine outrage with the fact that five guys burgers and fries makes good meme material catches fire and spreads to twitter>Big journalism sites try to tamp down on consumer protest with sexism/racism/bigotry charges, leads to streissand effectA lot of places either shut down or had to start revealing they were paid/had a compensation program with the game they were reviewing. They still do the same things but they at least tell you it's an ad now.The remaining backflow are brazilians who see a brown or gay person in a game and screech DEI/woke/whatever. Games continue to suck and be shit.
>>97079152Shes not just fat, she's the kind of fat that only exists in black americansA total emersion killer
>>97085056What sites wrote about depression quest? was it just rockpapershotgun?
Just use old non-pozzed cards, add custom cards as needed, make a self-contained cube and start hitting up people in game shops during commander days. If it's a big enough shop eventually you will find someone willing to try it out. I have been running around with a Wizard's Tower cube and am getting positive feedback about it. There's 0 reason to let corporate dictate your play experience.
>>97068172Gawker entertainment. It actually had more to do with Hulk Hogan suing them for libel, I believe, but the whole email campaign scaring away most of their sponsors left them vulnerable to death by lawsuit.
for me, it's the walking dead
>>97061660gamers won the war power to the players
>>970444922006 was my favourite year. Two ravnica blocks, coldsnap, and time spiral. Absolutely amazing year. Not everyone liked it but Theros was a personal favorite set of mine.
>>97074902The difference of Mamdani and the rest of the party is that he doesn't have open contempt for his voterbase and actually tries to energize them and have things like "policies" or "campaign promises" unlike the time-tested Democrat strategy of "vote for us, we'll do all that stuff the Republicans are doing but less"
>>97085456based and "take matters into your own hands" pilled
>>97061305Future history books are going to be fucking hilarious. An entire chapter on the rise of 4chan, Gamergate, and God knows what else.
>>97042970MTG even in its good times had issues>Reserved list>Cardframe update>Planeswalker type>Mythic raresThen there were warning signs>Boob nerfs>MUH SEXISM GARRUK>Commander Precons with unique designed for commander cards that basically were better than anything in the format.Then m15 hit and the cardframe got updated, we then had Tarkir which did huge damage>Trannysha, who dilates till death>Broken in general designsAnd then we got commander 2016 with partners and 4 color stuffId say around 2019-2020 is when things REALLY got bad, point of no return was some time around thereLorewise its hard to pinpoint, but some point before march of the machines if not that
I wonder how many girls have been sexually awakened by this card.
>>97085456This is the way to go. If you have friends convince them to build EHD deck, not commander deck and build a vintage cube, use proxies even.
>>97042970walking dead u.b.the loss of artist due to politiacal / libtardedness
>>97045082Pretty much. The rot started somewhere around the Invasion block but it didn't really get noticeable till the end of the Kamigawa block. You know the game is stuck in a holding pattern when the writers- because no one cares about the plot so they're afforded a lot of leeway- are just circling back to the established lore wellspring of the game because... reasons.I mean, sure, MTG has nuked it's setting...three times by the time Mirrodin ends but why not do more bullshit with plainswalkers blowing everything up, again? (Again, Again...) I mean, we, WOTC, missed another infinite mana trick but please don't think too hard about it.
I like this kind of art more than the "based" art such as Dwarven Grunt. There, I said it.
>>97091758What is wrong with Dwarven Grunt?
2027 is the clear answer. The 2026 roadmap is obviously shit and they wont course correct in time.
>>97087137>The difference of Mamdani and the rest of the party is that he doesn't have open contempt for his voterbaseAnother factor is the Israel question. He refused to kiss their ass during the debates and that did a lot to endear people to him. This is going to be a major issue for both parties moving forward as the (((donor class))) and the voting base of both parties are diametrically opposed over this issue
>>97043944Lurk one year b4 poasting
>>97072891If you dont sit on a bottle we will blow up your hovel
>>97095061Not my hovel!!!
>>97043009Take meds, zoomie
>>97062483The culture war has been a thing for a long time though.I mean shit like the movie "They live" with the secret alien ruling class. Their evil plans for the human race was "merry and reproduce". That movie was from the 80's You can see random examples of trying to paint as a bad things that common folk do since like the 50's The thing is that in recent years the messaging has been rather blunt that even the dullest folk started to notice it.
>>97043944go back you absolute nigger
>>97106043>You can see random examples of trying to paint as a bad things that common folk do since like the 50'sThat is fair, but it was not nearly as bad. Even back in the 90s the fundamentalist Christian reactionaries just bitched and cried about videogames until the ESRB rating system was established and even then the only thing it ever really barred from the average customer was outright pornography. The contemporary culture war, on the other hand, has caused systemic damage to the entire industry to the point that entire publishing blocs are imploding after alienating their core audience and destroying their intellectual properties to adhere to a set of principles held by people who don't even buy the damn things.
>>97107036>fundamentalist Christian reactions actually got shit done in the 90sInteresting.
>>97107036>Even back in the 90s the fundamentalist Christian reactionariesFor my third world ass I find this piece of gringo history so bizarre.Because our countries in South America are also Christians and when shit like D&D or Magic the Gathering show up the reaction of our Christians was like "oh it got numbers and math, it must be good, they are not drinking or doing drug too?! Great!" But I guess we might have been less retarded because our brand of Christians was more Roman in the sense that a lot of the local Gods and practices got turn into Saints and Christian spinoffs. So when you see a Paladin of Pelor fighting against devils it is way easier for the local pastor to spin it on a positive way when we already have local Sun Gods turned into Saints.
