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Recently picked up TTS and using to play 40k and Custodes seems to be the easiest to manage. Anyone thing I should know about them?
I heard one time that one of the functions of chapter serfs on space marine voidships is to pilot small craft that dogfight/bomb other voidcraft during void battles. Can anyone confirm if that's true? Cuz I can't see anything mentioning it on lexicanum
>>97044116these OPs are starting to feel like a humiliation ritualshan't post further ITT
>>97044131Nothing specific comes to mind, but it tracks. Depending on the chapter, Chapter Serfs function more or less similarly to the Imperial Navy, just smaller in scale. Void warfare support roles, including piloting secondary fleet assets in combat (read: not thunderhawks and large craft) seem right up their alley.
>>97044129you MUST pay the forge world tax for all but the most casual of lists, the tanks are that good
>>97044131You can make up whatever you want.
>>97044142Yep, I spent 3 years in Canada and this tracks.
>>97044066>unobtainableWhy??>>97044116>TQCain and his Inquisitor booty call. I like that she gets jealous of his conquests
which lictor variant should i build? theres also the one where its hand is close to the ground ready to strike
>>97044144or just pay the Russians or the Chinese for better quality resin
ilikeorks:D
>>97044142Yeah that's kind of my thought, it would be logistically impossible to field a reasonable number of small aircraft if you're constrained to just astartes pilots, given the chapter numbers limitations and the scale of void battles>>97044151True but I don't want to be too ridiculous>>97044155I don't even get the joke here
>>97044129Very “cheap” army to collect relatively unless you like tanks. Pray for a plastic refresh if you do.
>>97044161The one on the right looks great, very devious.
>>97044155*laughs in european*
>painting Terminators>decide to paint the chest white for a squad instead of gold>dealize how it speeds up the process by removing a paint from the schemeDamn I feel like I might to do the rest of my guys this way.
>>97044176yeah desu i like it too, might be a pain to paint particularly the inside of the talons. im painting mine the behemoth scheme which probably wouldnt look as good on the left variant
How do you guys get in the painting mood? Any sort of audio or ritual beforehand?
>>97044193Thats my secret anon. Im never in a painting mood. I do it anyway because I feel better after.
>>97044193Simply don’t think about it and just start. Thinking is the enemy of doing.
>>97044131It's safe to assume that 99.9% of the crew aboard a Space Marine ship aside from the senior officers will inevitably be chapter serfs, if only because a single cruiser-class ship would have at least 50x as many crewmen as there are marines within a chapter.
>>97044198This. "Motivation" is a spook. You just sit your ass down and fucking paint.
>>97044193This:>>97044198I'm never in the painting mood until after I've already started. Once I just sit down and put a brush to a mini (even when I don't really feel like it) I hit a flow state in about 10-15 minutes and don't want to stop.
>>97044196I don't.
>>97044116These OPs are starting to feel more and more aligned with my personal interests, I shall continue posting itt
>>97044210Maybe this hobby isn't for you then.
>>97044134Seems fitting since GW is doing everything in it's power to make playing 40K feel like a humiliation ritual.
Right now in my DW Killteam my Demolisher is an Iron Snake and my Breacher is a Black Templar, should I swap them?
>>97044210Does your dad know you're gay
>>97044228Yes, swap them.I'd replace the BT with a Hospitaller and the Iron Snake with a Fire Hawk
>>97044221it is
>>97044228I don't think it's important enough to us to justify asking us. I think it's a better idea that you have cool ideas that you are excited to build and paint
>>97044116I like orks :D
>>97044210You'd need to paint a model to feel bad after painting a model
>>97044116Anyone have any Tome Keeper inspo or actual minis?
>>97044245Then idk what to tell you anon. You're just gonna suffer.
>>97044250you're weird.
>>97044255>proves him rightNigga really said you're weird lol
Let Chaos idols take this thread!
>>97044252The fookin wot m8
>>97044258umm ok?
>>97044210You will not be missed. Maybe look into tts or something for those with goldfish attention spans
>>97044274that just doesnt make much sense
>>97044263Based
What's the coolest Eldar aspect warrior, and why is it Fire Dragons? I'm painting up a single fire dragon I got as the mini of the month ages ago, and I'm getting in the mood for them. No intention of ever collecting Eldar, but they're very neat.
painted the drones which means the big cheese is now collage readyshould i paint a broadside or crisis suits next?
>>97044276You don't like the painting part, I assumed you liked the game part. If you don't like the game why do you do this hobby if not parts of it are enjoyable
>>97044282Uh probably shining spears.
>>97044285Paint a broadside like a babybel
>>97044282>What's the coolest Eldar aspect warriorA dead one.
>>97044286I don't find anything enjoyable.
did more work on vulkan, almost done
>>97044303I didnt know they made a new vulkana
>>97044301You should seek those things out. Try new stuff.
>>97044193>picrel>>97044304He's from the batch of SM characters released back during summer, along with the iron hand terminator and the jet bike scar
With the tomb world kill zone and upcoming nightbringer I was thinking it would be baller as fuck if there was something like an actual Votann Core for the VOtann, like that. Like a killzone that's on a Votann stronghold world.
>>97044282Warp Spiders, most of Eldar lore is defined by being in pussified terror of the warp/Slaanesh but they risk their souls just for ambush tactics.
>>97044282shadow spectres are the only good ones
>>97044239firehawks are extinct.
>>97044318Not the ones serving in the Deathwatch at the time.
>>97044282I've always been fond of the Banshees.I found the Scorpion head guns and profile to be a bit dumb. The Spiders also looked a bit too goofy. I wish the Shadow Reapers were just a squad of Death Jesters.Really though, the old Autarch with wings was the best, so I guess Swooping Hawks take second place.
>>97044282Actually, crimson hunters
what the fuck is with these "modern" flying stands (the curvy ones with hook on the end).they don't hold on for shit.will superglue hold them on better than cement, or do i need to put a dozen dudes on tree stumps again?
With Resin models I should just use superglue to bind parts after sub assembly painting right?
>>97044370That's the only thing that works.
>>97044370Yes superglue is best for resin models in general, 2part epoxy is stronger but unless you're building something like a titan it's unnecessaryjust remember to scrape the contact points as clean as you can before gluing sub-assemblies
>>97044376>>97044374>just remember to scrape the contact points as clean as you can before gluing sub-assembliesWhy? Does primer get in the way of superglue bonding?
>>97044380it'll stick to the primer instead of the model itself since that's what it's in contact with, so it could peel away down the line potentially
>>97044116this fucking sucks
After seeing what they did to cataphractii in 30k I no longer want official red butcher sculpts for my world eaters
>>97044284Love zerks Working on a pile of them right now
>>97044116this fucking sucks(affectionate)>translationwhat that mouth do
>>97044423I've never seen crackle paint with so few but such long cracks. That's interesting. What product is it? Looks nice
>>97044402they just made them slightly taller
>>9704440240k chaos should be as distinct from 30k as it can be. So red butchers were never a possibility. What can be done, hopefully, is the primarisifcation of chaos.
Glad the thread is finally slow-ish
>>97044311It's a lot less funny when you realize he was a schizo who was actually hearing voices.
>>97044445Big sumo tourney on rn. All the beast belly gamers are watching
>>97044363What are you trying to put on them? My jump pack dudes hold fine with plastic cement but I did get a second point of contact on the back of the legs of each.
>>97044432This brand, Golden. Its an easy brand to find on amazon or the store near me. I dont know if its recommended often but it does work pretty well so I'd vouch for it. Its thick so you thin it down with some water.
>>97044311>get epic bacon pwned voices in my head I'm gonna paint>SHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUP GETOUTOF MY EAR AAAAAAAAThank You VanGogh, Very Cool!
>>97044450Oh golden is a monster in traditional art stuff. I really want to try their high flow acrylics, I've heard they're insanely good
>>97044161I've build mine like the one on the right. Easier to transport and little cooler looking IMO.
>>97044450Nice, I've been looking for something like that.
>>97044458>india yellow
>>97044468Is it better or worse that it isn't what you thought it was
>>97044333They still sell the winged autarch, alongside the newer kit with jump pack.In fact the arms and heads off them are all compatible
>>97044458Oh nice maybe ill pick some of those up, if they're good for airbrushing.>>97044466Ill save you some trial and error from my part, its pretty forgiving but I did have some bad results in tests. Definitely put a layer of PVA glue down first and let it harden to a clear shell. I use a sculpting tool or popsicle stick rather than a brush to apply it, it comes out less bumpy. Thin it down in a small cup to a paintable consistency with water. Some people say you can speed up the curing time in an oven or use a hair dryer, I had disastrous results. The best is to just let it sit a day or 2. If the cracks are too thin after 1 day, try 2 days. So do large batches, you can just scrape it away if one turns out bad.
>>97044479Yeah, but the Swooping Hawks which are the closest to that visually don't also have cool wraithbone power falchions, they have rifles.Also why did they have to Legends a bunch of cool characters like Yriel (which is what made me have this thought and Anrakyr who I love. Bring them back and give them fancy new models.)
>>97044458Diarylide Yellow is the exact paint I used on >>97044285.Works great unthinned out of the tin but it's pretty expensive
>>97044448Big ass white wrestler about to challenge the current yokozuna in 5min. Last match was nuts
>>97044490I think they're intended for airbrushing and fountain pens. A guy at my lgs used the fluo magenta over a titanium white base for his pink horrors and they're so bright and bold they almost glow in full daylight. Id imagine you want to look up msds on the pigments if you're spraying outside of a spraybooth because these use the scary big boy pigments you don't want to breath. I can't imagine chromium oxide green or nickel azo yellow are nice to breath
>>97044477Are you fucking kidding me
>>97044496I just tuned into this. Hype af I havent watched sumo in ages
>>97044496He fucking did it let's goooooo
Need brutallis dreadnought with a mawashi
>>97044530Need killa kan with baggy pants and cool sneakers
>>97044517It's my first time watching. My favorite streamer is watching it rn :)
Can I just use a normal shoulder on a Gravis arm? The set comes with cool successor chapter shoulderpads but they are normal sized ones
>>97044538You know it amigo
>>97044548Hey alright thanks
>>97044545gravis arms usually have a pad moulded on that's about the same size as a normal one, so it probably won't fit. can always hack that part off though.
>>97044477Anything from that shithole never fails to make me gag
>>97044545You can just bore out the inside to make it fit how you want
>>97044282Dire Avengers are my beloved purely from aesthetics.Otherwise I think Warp Spiders>>97044314 take the cake, those guys are nuts and rad as hell.
>>97044449suppressors and inceptors.48 hours and they're still flopping around
>>97044576Shame about the dire avenger models
>>97044580I stuck these on with plastic cement and left them overnight, rock solid.
>>97044593Nta but inceptors attach very differently than those. It's not a port and a peg it's like a little scoop and a cylinder
>>97044116Can we get these coomer generals more often
Does anyone have a pdf for white dwarf 514
>>97044627there's a guy who has a huge black library collection he shares, if you dig around his abode, you can find it.
>>97044622There's no peg on those either, they don't even come with flight stands. The end of the stand has a curve and it's placed under the bottom of the jump pack. Then a little glue on the leg where it rests against the stand for stability. I did one suppressor (converted into something less lame) which has the little cylinder and it worked exactly the same.
>>97044627https://gofile.io/d/0HkR53
>>97044654Thanks
forest / jungle base bros, where do you get your fake plant matter for your bases? i remember someone here mentioning something about using ones that go inside fish tanks for it
painted this primaris guy I've had for almost 2 years and the only primaris marine I've done since then>>97044263>>97044263based thread saboteur
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>97044684I got some kind of plastic card you just pop off a sheet and bend into shape.For leaf litter i've used oregano before, came out good.
>>97044477<"only the finest cloth from india, please buy saars"<"something smells about this deal"
>It's my lho break. Piss off.
>>97044705is that the gamers grass plants? ive seen people use herbs and tea so far for foliage, not sure if i want my models to smell like yorkshire proper black
>>97044536hell yeah cuh my dakkaboy could use some more homies
>>97044718Put him on asphalt basing with road lines and manholes
>>97044161i wish they left tyranids alone and just kept on ruining marine modelssaw a picture of new biovore and red terror and holy shit its bad and makes you sad
>>97044718Rob dyrdek 2000s fit when
>>97044698This but unironically11th ed will be big on 2nd and 3rd ed nostalgiawank
>>97044684used tea leaves. some people recommend coconut husk but I found it too large and coarse.
>>97044739You can get a finer grind coconut husk mulch. You can also blend it in a coffee maker when it's dry if the strands are too long, but I think they make good roots provided its not too hairy of a batch.
>>97044739>used tea leaveshow do you keep them from being damaged or rotting away?
>>97044712I think so.Heres some herb basing, been sitting for a few years and still looks good.Also used aquarium plants on this one and imo they're pretty bad, you'd have to paint them.Discovered with this model that super glue reacts badly with whatever putty I used, its become incredibly warped.
>>97044754Bake them in the oven.
>>97044754Just varnish them
>>97044754use, rinse, dry, glue. not had any issues in 10+ years.
>>97044756noted, i might have a look around but ill probably give the gamers grass plants a go if the aquarium ones arent great. i was going to use a textured mud paint for the base, ive got a few but just going to try each one and see which one is the best>>97044739im not a tea drinker unfortunately, do they have to be used tea leaves?
>>97044771>>97044773>>97044776I see, thanks lads
Navigator girls.
>>97044842Aren’t they worms
>>97044289it begins
>>97044709>mingle with xenos>her weakness allowed her family to be killed by xenos>wasted 10 years failing to exterminate xenos>failed as a human female too>most successful Inquisitor story
>>97044842>>97044846are they fish or worms? i thought that was a dune thing
>>97044887>dune thingCorrect me if I'm wrong but the only original thing GW has ever made are then Skaven.Everything else has been pick up from something that already existed before.
>>97044794>do they have to be used tea leaves?I'd probably give them a soak and a rinse just in case, but probably won't matter. might also be cheaper options if you're not already buying and drinking builders brews.
>>97044893They are based on the Rat Utopia experiments that were very popular in the public consciousness in the '80s. Secret of NIMH came out around the same time with similar inspirations
>>97044887Navigators in Dune are just people with some minor mutations from heavy, sustained spice use and living in microgravity; mainly elongated bodies, eyes that are completely deep blue, and webbed hands/feet. The whole fish/worm thing is from the Lynch movie where he decided to be weird and make them look all kinds of fucked up because he's David Lynch.
>>97044958Never read past the first book, did you?
>>97044116Ah you did it then fujo-sama
>>97044962I've read every Frank Herbert Dune novel and unfortunately some of Brian Herbert's sequels. In Frank's books navigators are almost entirely described that sparsely - they're only seen twice throughout all six books, and the only time the word "fish" is used anywhere around them at all is when Edric is described as "a fish out of water" because he's in a portable spice tank and not in a Guild ship.
Made the banner for the ancient.
>>97044978>ancient with jump packSorry but that's illegal. Please take it apart.
>>97044978I still have a box of RW black knights and I know what I'll do with those bits now
>>97044980Not only does he have a jump pack, he also has a power axe.
>>97044980Come and make me, James.
>>97044587You're a schizo
>*takes an oopsie whoopsie dump all over 40K*
Last 8 or so years have shown GW doesn't have any idea about what simplicity actually means.
>>97045022Leetu is stupid.
>>97045022Hence why people used to call it “shrimplified”.
I mean, it is the simplest the rules have been in a very long time. It's just still full of stupid design decisions and weird nonsensical interactions that make it largely unapproachable to new players.
>>97044723????The new lictors are amazing and incredibly faithful to original art>new red terror??????????????????
good afternoon, what are you all up to?
>>97045071He probably meant the lictor characterTo be fair it looks retarded, the cape is funny af
>>97045059>I mean, it is the simplest the rules have been in a very long time.It's really not. GW believe simplicity means having everything neatly laid out in a convenient card they can sell to you. But that just creats a rules system where the core rules are anemic and 80% of interactions are handled by exceptions instead of the other way around. The complete opposite of that design principles is 3rd edition (before the codexes, using the lists in the rulebook). Core rules handle 80% of interactions and even the armylists and wargear are very standardized (a meltagun is a meltagun with the exact same rules for every single army, for example) and yet it retains way more interesting interactions and mechanics than 10th does.
>>97044976You are right. I just went and reread the passages from Messiah myself. It is a lot more vague than I remembered and the fish-like features are only implied and superficial. I guess in my memory I just conflated the tank with the popular visual representations that have been propagated throughout the years.
>>97045087Nah the cape's cool and looks natural, see picrelated
>>97045098That's a skirt, not a capeNigger you think I've never seen the wings on a bat?
>>97045098>but le squidIt still looks stupid.
Does anyone have tips for doing rust similar to pic rel? I have pigments and pigment fixer but I'm inexperienced at using them
>>97045098>turns into a ball>spikes are fake>it's actually really small>it doesn't even squirt ink>feeds on shitThe more I know about that thing the less cool it is
>>97045127Paint metallic first, then stipple brown. For the brightest rust just mix your pigments with a bit of water and push them to the recesses. No need for fixer.
>>97045127base coat dark iron metalwatery thin coat of a medium orangey brown like skragg brownwatery thin coat of a lighter brown orange like jokero orange, but only in the recesses. leave some skragg brown showing. thats how i did it, pretty similar colors. apologies for the not 40k models, none of my 40k stuff uses rust
>look at description of a past event for an older edition in a gameclub im eyeing >"no MK10 armor & its variations are allowed to be fielded in the event"lol
>>97045299Is this the bait?
>>97045299>filtered by the ordo cronoskek
>>97045299That's based. Also highlights how dumb the whole ordeal was. Before they had the full 10k years of room to set stories and campaigns in. Now everything needs to be crammed into the 12 years post Cadia or else primaris don't exist.
>>97045299Honestly, all events should just ban Space Marines. You would get a lot more diversity and a much more interesting. Meta.
>>97045315And a lot less player, general interest and money
>>97045312>Before they had the full 10k years of room to set stories and campaigns in.most factions haven't existed for the whole 10k years, imperial equipment changed too.
>>97045318They will make up for it on their Horus heresy tournaments on off weekends.
>>97045322>most factions haven't existed for the whole 10k yearsMost have. You'd only really be missing Tau and that's fine, not every story needs Tau. Every story needs space marines (for GW.>imperial equipment changed too.Barely. That was the point of the Imperium being stagnant, an excuse to use the exact same models to represent very different times and palces.
>>97045322What's the "newest" faction to arrive on the galactic scene? Tau? Necrons Awakening? Tyraninds arrival?
>>97045315Bitch there is no 40k without Marines
>>97045330Just the Tau. Necrons have been around since before the Heresy (though in lesser numbers). Same with Tyranids, they started appearing soon after the Heresy but just small sightings, not a real tendril until much later. Of course genestealers were around long before that.
>>97044654That Chaos article makes me geniunely cringe.>Colossal unkowables. Dare I say 'eldritch' beings.>Lamp-eyed creep.>If we described them then this page would mutate, grow mouths and burst into flames.Also, what a bunch of horseshit. While Warp and dangerous beings inhabiting it was a thing in original Rogue Trader, Chaos wasn't. Only with Realm of Chaos books, Chaos was introduced into 40k, and the statements about Chaos Gods being the only things existing across different James properties, completely ignores Orcs and Gork-Mork. Orks are more "core of Warhammer" than Chaos ever was or will be.
>>97045347Nah, it’s chaos. You can make the guard the face of the setting and it would improve ten fold, gw would need to actually make the setting good though at the same time. >>97045353Cringe, orks are there to laugh at.
I miss global campaigns. It's a shame that 25 years nothing comes even close to the Third War for Armageddon.
>>97045366>You can make the guard the face of the settinglol
>>97045375The webpage with the interactive maps is still unmatched.
>>97045375That's why they're bringing back Armageddon for the fifth time!
>>97044842>>97044846Only familiarity I have with navigators is from the night lords trilogy and she was just a normal bipedal woman, and the other old one was reduced to like fucking sludge lol
>>97044893There is no such thing as something “completely original” any moreEverything is derivative of something elseYou will never fabricate an entirely new concept that has never once been considered in the entire history of mankind
>>97045329The first recorded appearance of necrons is in 897.M41, the first tyrannic war is in 745.M41, the first official recognition of genecultists is in 680.M41, tau are also rediscovered in their technological state only in M41, you can't have red corsairs before 912.M41, kriegers aren't an actual thing until after 949.M40, and so on, the talons of the emperor don't have real engagements until guilliman tells them to move in the era indomitus.You can make excuses as to why things appear previously, one way or another, unrecognised, unremembered, or as stuff that merely looked like them, or errors in warp travel, but then so you can with primaris as well, if you wanted, they have been in stasis for quite a while and it's possible that cawl had limited test runs in places, a fun fan theory is that the mentors chapter is one such way to train primaris troops out of mere simulations.But people really underestimate how the setting is specifically the 41st millennium, way more than it is the 10k years between 30k and 40k.Funnily enough, fantasy has almost a longer span of its timeline compared to 40k where it can reasonably set up stuff for most or all of its factions in their recognisable state.
>>97045329Dark Eldar didn't exist till late 35 Millenium when Vect taken control over Commoragh and dethroned the Noble Houses and Solar Cults.Tyranids didn't exist unless you are going for "isolated event of random monsters that later turned out to be Tyranids" which...Makes things very limited. Necrons, same as Tyranids but you can do more with them. For example some Mechanicus priests finding Necron ruins with C'tan shard imprisoned within and starting to worship it. Bolter Bitches didn't exist till 36 Millenium and I don't see anyone caring about Whores of Emperor stuff that predated them. Tau already were spacefaring in 36 Millenium and started expanding in 37 and 38, so you can also make isolated stories with them, and again, you can still do more than with Tyranids, for example by having squad of Marines allying with warriors of this unknown, minor Xenos to defeat whatever they fighting at the moment and only later they were reidentified to have been Fire Warriors who got teleported by a wormhole or whatever. Other factions, Orks/Chaos/Eldar/Most of Imperium, would have comfortably existed across the 10k years and you could make any story with them.
>>97045416People have been remixing old stories forever, the myth of Romulus and Remus being feed by a she wolf comes from an older Persian myth of a boy being feed by a woman named 'bitch' (word for female dog and wolf).Good artists are inspired by others works, great artists steal. Taking ideas and twisting them for your self is how we get new ideas. And new stuff is still made like look at Dead Space and the concept of Necromorphs thats new for sci-fi horror, dead bodies mutated into weird alien shapes to kill people by an aura be an alien monolith we use to get free energy. And like thats what less than 20 years old?
>>97044116Femdom xenoslop is cringe even as a parody
>>97045366Shut up, rock bitch.
>>97044116I knew modern 40k audience consisted of nothing but faggots and trannies, thanks for confirming.
>>97045059It feels like it's trending towards a board game instead of a war game.
>>97045366Gaurd don't belong in the setting
>>97045499>Femdom.Anon, those are men.
>>97045491Do you think GW will do some kind of an origin story book for each of the non-imperium factions once they finish their scouring and post-heresy series? It seems like it would behoove them to have a "heres how we got here" book for each of the major factions.
>>97045491>Dark Eldar didn't exist till late 35 Millenium when Vect taken control over Commoragh and dethroned the Noble Houses and Solar Cults.So what you're saying is that the Commoragh Eldar were just regular Eldar who never left Commoragh before Vect took control? How exactly did Vect taking control reveal their existence to Slaanesh and cause their souls to start being fed on?
>>97045477>The first recorded appearance of necrons is in 897.M41And yet we have Trazyn and Orikan doing shit for thousands of years before the Heresy. I'm not talking about large scale conflicts, but they are present. Nevermind that not every single campaign needs to be a world ending plot moving event. That's how GW put themselves in the situation that made them stop making global campaigns when both Storm of Chaos and Eye of Terror didn't go as planned.>But people really underestimate how the setting is specifically the 41st millennium, way more than it is the 10k years between 30k and 40k.Even if you wanna be like that, which is fair, mind you, the writers used to have almost 2k years (going back to m40 for some things wasn't unheard of even if most events were in m41) worth of room for stuff is still way more than 12.
>>97045561NTA but the kabal structure didn't exist and so the raids were not industrially scaled, so heavily planned and carried out like they are now
>>97045526>Guard don't belong in the settingPrimaris was the worst thing to happen to 40k because it attracted everybody from /v/
>>97045492>claustrophobic industrial sci-fi>blue-collar workers stuck in a lethal environment>rogue corporation meddling with alien biology>body horror from an extraterrestrial infectionAlien (1979)>derelict spacecraft>“Something got inside the ship and changed everyone”>log recordings of crew going insane>cosmic, extradimensional influence mediating the horrorEvent Horizon (1997)>transformative body horror>flesh rearranging itself into impossible configurations>parasitic infection that uses corpses>The Thing (1982)>cosmic, incomprehensible influence>ancient monolith that manipulates human minds>a “signal” that causes madness and mutationLovecraft (1917+)Im not arguing that derivative=bad, dead space is dope and unique recombinations of existing ideas is where the novelty comes from but even the necromorphs aren't some entirely new concept
>>97045573what the hell are you talking about, if anything they had to scale way the fuck down through the Crusades because humanity weren't easy pickings anymore. We know that the Dark Eldar would raid so regularly that humans would time it yearly to hide in fear, Vulcan's general elf-hatred comes from his planet getting regularly fucked by deldar raids until he personally smashed their shit in. Vect's restructuring was to deal with humanity actually getting their shit together and putting together some decent naval protection, which just made raiding harder but didn't stop it.
>>97045581Nigga said "no vidya in my toy threads" lmao
>>97045598Yes anon.
>>97045581Nah, he is right.Imperium is aesthetically and thematically feudal.Sisters are just catholic warrior nuns/female knights.Space marines are just knights with their own fiefdoms.Emperor being the ever ruling Monarch.Guard is just WW1 and WW2 shit that has no place in 40k.
>>97045560>Origin books for Eldar or Tau.I hope not. Every time James tried to expand on the past, it turned out to be shit. What is in codices is more than enough.
>>97045604>faction that has existed since the inception of the setting doesn't fit>Nah, he is right.
>>97045597Vect is the best ally the Imperium has ever had.
>>97045604Guard are unmodified humans, the thing the Knights (SM) are fighting to protect, they serve a purpose in the setting obviouslyThey are WW1/2 themed because thats just aesthetically cool to this day
>>97045612Tone down the antisemitism, buddy
>>97045581>because it attracted everybody from /v/the #1 attractor of HFY tourists are guard though?
>>97045604anon if the Imperium was thematically feudal it wouldn't have female knights lmfao
>>97045615>they serve a purpose in the setting obviouslyAs background non-combatants only implied to exist.>They are WW1/2 themed because thats just aesthetically cool to this dayGay cock in dooty shit that doesn't belong in a grimdark metal inspired sci-fi setting
>>97044875There is only two types of inquisition charactersthose who try to maintain their purity and suffer because of this.and those who try to use the corruption and suffer because of this. Joining the inquisition is a death sentence, just a matter of how long you can stave it.
>>97045625HFY is only associated with csm and traitor guard
>>97045625nope, marines
>>97045597Nocturne wasn't raided by Dark Eldar, just generic Eldar pirates. Taking the specific instance of Nocturne, which was never raided by anyone from Commoragh, and equalling that with pre-Vect Commoragh raiding annually every Human planet is retarded.
>>97045633You don't know what HFY means then>>97045635Wrong yet again, sorry impotent guardfag
>>97045633Nigger what?
>>97045631they are combatants lol its a military force, are you new to the setting?and WW2 was the most grimdark period of global war mankind has ever experienced to this day, why the fuck wouldnt that aesthetic fit the setting?
>>97045633Stupidest post ITT so far and that's a bloody achievement considering the levels of retardation usually exhibited in here.
>>97045604The guards are the levys that every lord of the realm would bring to a campaign called by the high lordwhat were you thinking?
>>97045646>they are combatantsThey shouldn't be.>WW2 was the most grimdark period of global war mankind has ever experienced to this day.Only thing grimdark about WWII was the nukes, Vietnam was more grimdark than WWII. Neither belong in the setting
Oh no!
>>97045660What? How is it a dumb take? Traitor guard are fighting for the human experience, guard and the imperium at large are fighting to deny that. Even tau are more human than the imperium. But chaos in general is letting humanity win.
>>97045646>WW2 was the most grimdark period of global war mankind has ever experiencedNot even close. The 30 years war alone had more deaths by percentage than both world wars in Europe.
>>97044282>
>>97045720The 30 year war was whatever
>>97045694>unmodified humans fighting uphill battles against massively superior forces of chaos and terrifying xenos isnt grimdark, instead it should just be supersoldiers who "feel no fear">only thing grimdark about WWII was the nukeswildly incorrect
>>97045639Cry more, marinefag.
>>97045720i wouldnt measure "grimdark-ness" by percentage of total death, if that was the case the most grimdark period of time would probably just be like the bubonic plague era or something
>>97045598>>97045604>>97045625Like clockwork
>>97045720>by percentage
>dark mechanicus see vashtorr as a major avatar of the machine god I thought they might
>>97045604>>97045639>>97045662?
>>97044723The new -vores are the one tyranid refresh you can safely call badI don't know why they elected to change them from a fairly unique and identifiable silhouette to an extremely generic video-game-esque spider monster
>war in heaven shuriken catapults were shaped like crossbows, the arms being the gravity acceleratorsthere's the exodite firearm
>>97045777that's rogue trader shuriken weaponsbtw, does voidscarred have something about the war in heaven?
>>97045777For what reason?
>>97045706And nothing happens!
>>97045751Considering the war was fought with early canons at best, thats an insane amount of casualties. Most are famine and disease obviously.>>97045732WW2 wasnt so grimdark considering a major player on one side had ships meant to store and make ice cream for the troops.
>>97045604>Imperium is aesthetically and thematically feudal.>Space marines are just knights with their own fiefdoms.ah yes, knights
>>97045810By that logic, one stone age village going and killing another, resulting in 50+ percent casualty rate is even more impressive.
>>97045824>let me cherrypick to try to prove my pointI accept your concession
>>97045792Has that design actually existed in model form at any point?
>>97045810>a global war so catastrophically psychologically crushing and bleak that nations had to allocate significant resources to floating morale-preservation machines to try to stop their soldiers from mentally breaking because troops were mutinying, desertion was epidemic, and mass psych casualties skyrocketed into alarming suicide rates isn't grimdark
>>97045831>>let me cherrypickI won't let you do that, here, have the average lookthe marines that look like knights are an extreme minority marines aren't knights, they're generic spacemen
>>97045730>unmodified humans fighting uphill battles >Against chaos>Against xenosWhere is that happening? Sure as shit isn't happening in job hammer 40k
>>97045846>posts a knight>says it's not a knightlol
>>97045845That's litterally every war fought eveywhere.The US didnt HAVE to make the ice cream ships, they just had the ressources to do it.
>>97045835I don't think so, it just wasn't practical in casting, you can understand how the crossbow arms developed into the normal catapult's flared shape near the middle.
>>97045853>>posts a knightYou don't know what a knight is.Have a knight then.
Redpill me on starting a tyranid army and using the Vanguard Onslaught detachment only
>>97045866There are magazine articles selling vonryan leapers for dirt cheap if you can find them.
>>97045856ironically it sounds exactly like 40ka brutal reality contrasted by an absurd attempt to mask it, clearly thought up by some out of touch bureaucrattiny pathetic fragments of comfort grossly overshadowed by cruelty
>>97045864>posts a generic spacemansorry faggot, nobody gives a fuck about guard and they don't belong in the setting no matter how much you stomp your feet and throw a fit
>>97045845>soldiers from mentally breaking because troops were mutinying, desertion was epidemic, and mass psych casualties skyrocketed into alarming suicide ratesnone of that happened on the US fronts
>>97045883>>posts a generic spaceman>sorry faggot, nobody gives a fucknow say that without crying, piggy.
>>97045848are you just saying you want it to happen more? theres several times this happens
>>97045730Humanity need to make fearless killer giants from children to fave the threats of the galaxy is more gtimdark than a bunch of cod fags using 17th century military tactics
>>97045878The ice cream ships were extremely effective. The US soldiers are happy and the Japanese are freaked out the enemy can afford to do this.One German commander freaked out when he saw one of his American POW had a birthday cake made by his mom. The US can afford to ship a cake from America to Europe just for a private.Another German commander realised the war is lost when one of his scouts reported that the Americans dont even bother turning off their trucks when its not in use.You dont fuck around with morale, a lot of money and research is done to make food and rations as good as possible, even today. If your country can afford to do this, its a great time to be a soldier. Grimdark is when countries cant even afford to make their soldiers feel somewhat comfy, which is 99.9% of human history before WW2
>>97045900>all IG have less than half the total games played than one flavor of space marinelmaokeep crying
>>97045889that just wronghundreds of thousands of US troops were removed from the front due to psychological breakdownthe US had to issue multiple revisions to psychiatric protocol in the middle of the war due to the unprecedented nature of the severity of their situationapproximately 40k (hah) desertionsmultiple documented mass refusals of orderslike all that shit happenedww2 was crazy idk why youre downplaying it
>>97045916>Space marines are knights because... touneyfags!LOL
>Arguments over which period of human history is the most grimdarkThey're all grimdark. The worst you can think or imagine has happened, is happening and will happen.WarConquest/PestilenceFamineDeathThe only thing that changes is technology, the source is always the same.
>>97045930shut it down
>>97045912nah i think fighting a crazy brutal war and then having some bureaucrat spit in your face with a tiny bowl of melting ice-cream after all your friends just seizured to death in a cloud of nerve gas is way more grimdark honestly
>>97045928>t-t-tourneys!!!Pathetic tourist-kun~
>>97045930the technological advancements have increased our capacity to effectively inflict suffering on ourselveshumanity has dedicated a lot of time money and effort into making a science/art of human suffering
You know the classic 40k thing of imperials having one red bionic eye? I need art of dudes with that please
>Guardfags will never
>>97045951>our capacity>ourselves>humanityWho's "we", nigga?
>>97045966Lil nigga answered his own question
>>97045366I'd rather be laughing than bored
>>97045966finna tru ion no who tf we is
>>97045944>TAKE. ME. SERIOUSLY. I. SAID!A marinefag's delusions are the only thing saving him from faction dysphoria.That must be a truly awful life.
>>97045985Trying much too hard
>>97045974If you bundle yourself up with the people who commit atrocities that's your choice, but don't put everyone into it.The only people who use "humanity" or treath people as a whole are>Idiots>Asswipes with an ego who like to think they're smarter than the rest>Horrible people trying to shift their blame/guilt onto everyoneSo which one are you?
>‘The crypto lock is not responding, sire,’ Tsu Tsek said to the phaeron. He stepped back from the interface point. ‘The coding is ancient, and beyond me.’ He bowed his head apologetically.>Lhaskek looked down upon his chronomancer. ‘Gulmarlok is dead. Is this the reason why?’>Tsu Tsek nodded, still not looking up into his lord’s face, which managed to convey disappointment although it was rigid and the eyes glowed an unchanging, baleful green. ‘He was the expert. I am a mere dabbler in comparison to his skill, alas.’>‘I do not blame you.’ Lhaskek’s neck piston juddered again, making his head tick to one side. He set his staff’s base down on the machine with a hard, decisive click. ‘We are doomed then. Our dynasty is finished.’>Cawl judged the time was right to step in. Despondency opened doors.>‘If I might attempt to break your machine’s defences myself?’>Tsu Tsek made a noise that could have been the equivalent of dismissiveness. ‘You are not necron. How could you understand the complexities of our technology? We are the oldest race in this galaxy. You are a barely evolved primitive. How could you possibly comprehend the majesty of our science?’>‘That is what I keep telling him,’ said AsanethAyu.>Cawl would have begged to differ on both fronts. The aeldari would have something to say about the first point, and he was confident enough in his own ancestors’ mastery to believe they had at least come close to the necrons’ abilities, but it would have been tactless to say so. Tactlessness shut doors.>‘Then what harm could there possibly be in letting me try?’
>>97045996lil nigga got his feelings hurt lol
>>97044477What is it with them and cowpiss?
>>97045803Yawn. Mossa would've had the Black Templar rip her in half
>>97045987I told you to say that WITHOUT crying.
>>97046014its crazy that you didnt attach any models to this post loooool
>>97046017You're the only one crying here thoughbeit?
fistlets seething itt
>>97046002>Retard think he's smarter/enlightened>Gets refuted>immediately shifts into deflection/derailingEvery time.>What are you talking about?>u mad?>no u>Of course I know but I won't tell youYep, it's midwit time
>>97046000I fucking hate cawl man
>>97046019>I'm n-not crying u c-crying >we wuz knights n shieeet
People need to understand that without Space Marines there is no Games Workshop. Yeah the other armies are quaint but they are not as integral.
>>97046024lil nigga said "ur dumb" and called it a refutation looool
>>97046018I dont put my keepsakes in looting range
>>97046029Yeah keep crying I don't know why you think posting the only relevant army in the setting repeatedly is supposed to prove your point lmfao
>>97046030agreedthe other armies are important though at this point
>>97046032>t. nomodels
>>97046000>how to write a book about a genius: make everyone around him braindeadBravo!
>>97046030Someone must eat the slop at the bottom of the food chain.
>>97046018>>97046039>asks for models>don't post modelsHOW LOW CAN WE GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>97046053>t. still nomodels
Im doing my first Kin atm im finishing the bases and i went with frozen planet (still need black rim). What do you think anons?
>>97046061Don't forget to drill their kinholes
A small thing I love about 40k is that tech looks straight out of the 80s with big fat computer screens, physical buttons and green text. I don't know why but I always hate sci fi settings full of holograms and touchscreens.
>>97046077yeah the sort of rudimentary outdated archaic tech is coolmakes it seem more brutal too, less clean, more rusty and heavy
>>97046077This.It's mostly Jes Goodwin's work but that might be THE thing that keeps me in 40k; that kind of retro-future mixed with fantasy.If they get rid of that I'm out
>>97046053>>97046060I’ll post models on his behalf, its sort of like a trial by combat situation and I will be his chosen representative.
>>97046109>no timestampfuck off tourist
>>97046061They're looking good so farAre those ice chunks broken up resin bricks?
>>97046109the nightlords symbol always makes me laughwhat was their backstory again?
>>97046109>It's all one guy shitposting 24/7 on /40kg/Of course it is
>>97046096>It's mostly Jes Goodwin's workMaybe? I think it's just a byproduct of the setting being made in the 80s, like Aliens or Star Wars. They all have the same "analog" feel because they were made back then. But it was a good decision to keep that aesthetic.
>>97046119Quartz Fragment
>>97046132I luv that shit
>3 days of quiet>suddenly hours of seething lorefag argument Someone got unbanned I see
>>97046224lorefagging is the only thing that makes this thread interesting unironicallythe model shit is rarely somewhat interesting when people are making good progress on interesting projects but its pretty rareits mostly just constant shitflingingat least when the lorefags get active we actively discuss 40k the settinguntil the based and fistpilled niggaposters arrive
>>97046077It's because touchsceens are now common place and holograms are also becoming more and more of a reality. So it makes regular scifi stuff feel more mundane.Also it does make sense in the way that it adds the archaic feel of 40k where they are using old shit from centuries or thousands years ago.But at the same time it also kind of doesn't make sense in a paradoxical way.Since most of Imperium's stuff is from the DAoT, which was humanity's golden age where their technological advancement had climbed to the point where it's basically incomprehensible to us, it's basically magic. And they could do practically anything.Also what we know of the DAoT, pretty much all of the descriptions we have paints the golden age that it is more or less just generic, sleek, minimalist, cool LEDs, in terms of aesthetic.So it'd make sense that lot of DAoT stuff is just holograms and touchsceens.
>>97046256>It's because touchsceens are now common place and holograms are also becoming more and more of a reality. So it makes regular scifi stuff feel more mundane.I hated touchscreens and holograms in the early 2000s too when those were far from the norm irl. I just prefer the look of analog tech.
>>97046256it is sometimes but its rare, more advanced tech is usually more complex so it usually fails quicker whereas alot more of the surviving shit would probably be heavier last-gen machines that are build to lastand its usually a fucked up rough hologram flickering with static and a roughly bitcrushed voice coming through the output
>>97046263Then it's just autism.
>>97046256That's why I think the imperium's stance should be that innovation is bad and the only way to get better stuff is STCs.
>>97046241I try to post my models and my writefaggotry but progress is slow so I don't wanna repeate the same few things and post the same handful of pictures thread after thread.Speaking of, I'm considering to sculpt a cape for this dude and to change the little parchment between his legs for a proper plate like Lysander or the 30k gorgons. Yay or not? I'm afraid to ruin the model after doing everything else.
Nothing week.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/xxrvgot1/sunday-preview-prepare-to-enter-the-jade-abbey-in-warhammer-quest-darkwater/
>>97046277Grotmas 2025 confirmed.What do you think we are getting on the Advent Calendar this year?
>>97046272You can't truely invent anything for the Machine God has already invented everything that exists. It's only matter of us discovering his gifts.How we discover the gifts is largely irrelevant and up to the person themselves.
>>97046274i like the parchment personally, especially if you're adding a cape, it'll just give the model more flow and make it more interesting to look at
>>97046279yet even still heretical tech-freaks play god by trying to improve on the Machine God's designssick fucks
>>97046280To be fair it already has a cape, I'm just thinking about extending it so it goes over one of the shoulders (his left shoulder to be precise, the one with the shield so it keeps the flow if the existing cape). I think I'm just getting biased from looking at Lysander so much, I think it's a fantastic model.
>>97046279Behold, for I have rediscovered tapping forks to my nipplezzzzzzzz
>>97046287It's not heresy for the Machine God has already invented the improvement that you're putting together.You're only discovering how to produce the modification.
>>97046291that bottom piece is still cool like you can do that if you like iti just like the flowy shit alot of the times since these are heavily armored dudes and sometimes the models look stiff to me
>>97046278Vostroyan refresh
>>97046279If your discovery isn't a STC file with a record of millennia of existence I'll call boltshit on your rear.
>>97046298PLEASE
>>97046277Good, more time for me to finish my guys
>>97046312>The monkey paw curls
>>97044437>So red butchers were never a possibilitybased retard
>>97046339h-how?
>>97046278JAAAAAAAMES GIVE US A FUCKING CULT OF THE BLADED COG DETACHMENTYOU FUCKED ME LAST YEAR
>>97046096He does great work most of the time, him and all of the other 40k designers who have clearly been there for a while. The only thing he catastrophically fucked up was 40k Admech, and the only reason it's like that is because we lost Alan Bligh.
>>97046061Solid look there.
>>97046278They won't give us to detachments again when they're selling detachments in their 500 Worlds books. It'll be alternative boarding patrol or combat patrol teams and rules or something instead.
>>97046345Vostroyans get cadiafied. Only unique thing they retain is the fur hat, but it's a fur hat that's glued on top of a cadian style helmet.
>>97046376>We are all Cadia>12th edition It's gonna happen mark my words
>>97046385I will forget your words by tomorrow
>>97046339absolute cinema
>>97046385>mark my wordsLol you can't make me do shit.
>>97046339Kino
>>97046407Bambino
Just finished the new Cawl book.It wasn't that good compared to the others. Vashtorr appeared only sparingly in it, but he stole the show whenever he did.Vashtorr is a mega-fan of Cawl. He wants him. He wants him badly. He wants to claim him as his servant and minion since humanity has rarely produced a genius like him before.
>>97046431Might check it out. For free, of course.
>>97046431Sounds like an extremely lame book.
>>97046274Nice work king
>>97046431Why doesn't Vashtorr want Bile if he has rejected Slaanesh? Isn't his whole MO stealing servants of the other gods into his contracts?
Cawl novel finally revealed the name of the new Fabricator General, Xasandera Valdet
>>97046410sultan of swat the calipih of clout
>>97046445Only if you hate Cawl as a character. We get some more info about the War in Heaven. The primary location is set on a Necron World Engine frozen in time by a Blackhole during the War in Heaven.The Old Ones and their servants collapsed the star, creating the blackhole and trapping the World Engine there forever alongside the Necron fleet and a Pre-Fall/War in Heaven Aeldari fleet. Cawl and his friends go to the world and see Necrons and WiH Aeldari frozen in time. Cawn and co even examine a dead WiH Aeldari.
>>97046462The valet has the car ready, look for X'Sandra
>>97046461The events of the last book with Bile were orchestrated by Vashtorr to position Cawl where he wants him. Vashtorr isn't interested in Bile. He wants Cawl
>>97046466>We get some more info about the War in Heaven.Ok, so it's both lame and fucking garbage.I'd rather burn every copy of the book and then smash every hard drive containing it and then burn those too than read it.
TIL people dont like VashtorI thought most people did like the new way this was going. I didnt know so many people didnt like the CAWL/Vashtorr storylines
>>97046473I love VashtorrBought the dude day 1 he was available and immediately changed my army from Iron Warriors to Cogs of Vashtorr when the rules for them dropped
>>97046477>>97046477I like anything dark mechanicum or "evil tech heresy" so he's cool in my book. I didnt really like the primarchs coming back so he's by far the more interesting part of the new lore
>>97046472You haven’t even read the book yourself and you’re already willing to go this far?
Vaushtorr is fucking lame
>>97046473People don't like Vashtorr because he's an unnecessary and shit addition to 40k that was never needed.And him being added hasn't made 40k more interesting or cool, it has just made it lamer and gayer by introducing more named character wank, and worse yet, more gay and lame chaos wank that nobody asked for or even cares about.Only people who like or even care about Vashtorr are sub 60 IQ people who unironically think that BL books are the bee's knees and "deep", when in reality they are quite literally just glorified advertizements for specific plastic toysoldiers.
>>97046481Yeah, same. Those your defilers? I really should finish building mine; I think I'll put it on a base like that too (I'd rather it be a display piece than something to actually use).
>>97046345>>97046376They will definitely ruin unique details like that hat or lasgun for no reason as they did with the DKoK masks.But the real answer is half the line becomes female including any HQ commander officer. Also the typical black woman with cornrow that nobody has ever asked for or wanted (especially in a slav regiment).
>>97046484I've heard enough about it. It's shit and I don't want it to exist.
>>97046490>Only people who like or even care about Vashtorr are sub 60 IQ people who unironically think that BL books are the bee's knees and "deep", when in reality they are quite literally just glorified advertizements for specific plastic toysoldiers.Or, you know, Darkmech/daemon engine fans.
>>97046499What about Vash? Do you enjoy his written character?
>>97046490He's infinitely cooler than belacuck, both fluffwise and modelwise
>>97046490Be'lakor, why are you typing like a 14-year-old?
>>9704649015 years ago cocksuckers were saying this about Be'lakor, lmao
>>97046510belakor is still a joke
>>97046494Kommandant Melissa Frostdragon reporting for duty. The Vostroyan Command Squad also contains Supreme Medica La'Qua'Dreesha, Sniper Lt Saberwolf, Ugly John with a Metalgun, and elite Flag-Bearer Christina Strongwoman
>>97046473My only issue with Vashtorr is that he continues GW's shoehorning of Chaos into the War in Heaven since they specifically mention he was empowered by the Necron biotransference
>>97046499We got more lore about Vashtorr. -He isn't a god of mortals. He is a god of machines. All machines answer him, save a few blessed ones that can resist him for a time. All machines have souls and yearn to bow before him.-Vashtorr is eternal. Vashtorr has always existed. When the first mortal created tools, Vashtorr was there watching.-The Vashtorr model we see on the TT isn't actually Vashtorr. It's just a fragment of him. The least part of his power. Vashtorr IS the Forge of Souls.-All Soul Grinders are bound to Vashtorr to be loyal to him over patron gods.
>>97046490Like what this guy >>97046481 said, I just want stuff that represents the specific flavor of chaos that I like, which is tech heresy and daemonic machinery. It makes ultimately little difference to me whether the model is a named character or a generic "Soul Forge Tyrant" so long as it's there.
>>97046510I hold the same opinion on Belakor, I don't give a fuck about him.Less GW talks about him, the better.
>>97046503>>97046508It's funny because Belakor fucking over Vashtorr is the coolest he's ever been in 40k, giving him a rival to seethe about like Archaon in Fantasy is good for his character
>>97046502No, he's lame uninteresting.
Vash is the new Belakor. He move plots forward. Belakor was a meme for more than a minute and he doesnt push anything forward. I'm all for GW adding more non-primarch BBEGs
>>97046526Oh yeah. I forgot to add that Vashtorr is a very honest broker and trader. He will give you what you bargained for fairly. Unless you are an idiot who bargains blindly without care for the wording and loopholes. Vashtorr does not trick. Vashtorr does not lie.
>>97046526>belakor is vashtorr's equalHAHAHAHA YES MORE UPSCALE FOR THE DARK MASTER
>>97046466What's the difference between WiH Aeldari and the modern ones? Are they more like the Ynnari?
>>97046000>cawl is just going to carry around a necron waifu head from now onbased or cringe
>>97046536Be'lakor is acting as a spoiler for Vashtorr which is kinda funny. Is he the stand in for the audience that doesn't want anything storywise to change (40kg)?
>>97046543Different armour with no soulstone. Their shuriken guns are shorter and use a different firing mechanism.
>anchor posts start tomorrowFuck i promised myself I'd finish ahead of time but it'll be down to the wire again.
>>97046494>But the real answer is half the line becomes female including any HQ commander officerI'm not sure why you feel this way? IG being mixed has always been a thing even if the models didn't really represent it and none of the new IG officers are exclusively female.
>>97046533Sometimes it feels like I'm the only anon who read the Charadon campaign books.
>>97046494>female leader/important character
>>97045639This should include wholesome chungus Ogryn and commissars being highly rational badasses who aren't totally trigger happy
>>97046554>IG being mixed has always been a thing even if the models didn't really represent itHere we go. Here we go. 50 years of Guard being 99% male in models (this is the more important part) and even mostly the lore bits until we got current year faggots giving us cringe shit like female creed and>give me 20 good womyn and menand faggots like this saying>it was always like thatFUCK YOU
>>97046529And Vashtorr still isn't needed at all.GW could've just added Dark Mech as a faction anyway without ever adding Vashtorr.Hell, if they need some random big guy bozo to be their leader GW could've either just pulled Kerbol-Hal out of cold storage and make him the center piece faggot, or they could've just said that Kerbol died thousands of years ago and then come up with a completely new Dark Mechanicum leader.
>>97046563You being an illiterate toddler in 1998 doesn't mean the lore wasn't always like that. This isn't even a retcon.
>>97046563You didn't prove him incorrect, you're just mad because you're asshurt over fictional women.Emotionally charged response.
>>97046461Im pretty sure he wants tech alligned people and bile is good with biology not machines
>>97044282I'm from the future, the coolest Aspect Warriors are the Reaving Lions
>>97046572>>97046573You won’t win this War!
>>97046543>'Aeldari, has to be – look at his armour! How magnificent.'>The creature was face down. Solana was no expert in this breed of xenos, but his armour was unlike any in the records. His gun lacked the long acceleration cowling common to shuriken weapons, making it appear oddly truncated. In place of the cowl, the end of the weapon sported grav-acceleration arms that resembled the bow on a back-world crossbow.>'See, impulsion is provided by this exposed gravity sling here. Not concealed like in contemporary weaponry,' said Cawl, tapping at it.They also had different ships than modern Eldar but they aren't described
>>97046572>>97046573There isn't anything to prove wrong. Of course women are part of the guard. I'm not even disputing that. My point is in a guard codex 20 years ago you maybe had a photo of rocket girl last chancer and that was IT. Now in a guard codex 50% of soldiers are womyn, black womyn are everywhere and because marines are a sasuage fest we have to deal with character officers being womyn too (99% of current year BL guard novels). It's lame, forced and unnatural, epsecially for the fucking WW2 in space army.
>>97046577So that's where the custodes hat come from
>>97046584So if the lore has always been that the guard was mixed what's the issue with the models representing that other than you hating the presence of women even if it breaks the lore? Same with their race, the guard recruits from everywhere not a single specific ethnic group.
>>97046587The Emperor knows Eldar swordsmanship, thar wouldn't surprise me
I'll probably take a better pic at some point but I'm just calling them done. I'm now going to paint 20 battle sisters You guys done anything this weekend?
>>97046596I already told you. It's lame and pandering. but you're misisng the point too that it wasn't always like that, women were just some thing mentioned sparingly or in some black library novel saying >oh there are female regiments (cain)or >we made 1 female guardswoman (out of a line of 500 models)you people seem to miss the point that its also incredibly jarring to go from barely mentioned to every squad is now composed of 50% black womyn
>>97046558I love this meme because having an actual real life trvthnvke dropped in a ytp by knuckles the echidna is funny af
>>97046612It's lame and pandering for the models to be accurate to the lore?
>>97046612>jarring to go from barely mentioned to every squad is now composed of 50% black womyn
Can new imperial knights ever be manufactured, or is enough of the tech gone for them to be permanently limited edition DAOT tech?
>>97046617I'd really love for you to point out anywhere that states black womyn with cornrows are an integral part of not just the Imperial Guard but any part of Warhammer 40k.
>>97046613>YTPIt's an actual quote from the showDon't ask me how I know
>>97046619the imperium has been building new knights for +10,000 years.
>>97046632Sweet
>>97046625Wait fr? That's funny af, based writer's room, even if they did actually intend it to be pro-feminist ultimately
>>97046617>lore accurate
>>97046661That's art buddy, not lore.Good try finding a tumblr image though! Better luck next time
>>97046658That's what happens when you're a show around a game that flopped on all levelsIt's very much true & based
>>97046661The marxist ignores 50 years of game history, points to something made in the last 2 by activist infiltrators and then go>yep, its always been that wayand>lore accurate
>>97046619mostly old limited edition, like titans, with extremely limited mto reruns from the luckiest or forge worlds
>>97046682>Faggot speak>Faggot mindYou're wrong and you can't worm your way out of that one nigger
>>97046490Hes set up in 4e, not really new
>>97046699That's also art sweetie, maybe someday you will learn the difference between pictures and words.
>>97046699You still didn't prove him incorrect. You're again just mad.You're like an indian who just says they are right and then smugly stand around like you won.
>>97046466>Only if you hate Cawl as a characterI don't think I've been given a single reason to like cawl as a character, he's the scapegoat for a lot of asspulls the writers would need to justify some plot moving forward, there's no character beyond that.I'm interested in the mentions about the war in heaven, but I'm going to bet it's once again fucking nothing like the previous times the war was mentioned.
>>97046707>>97046710>They hated him because he spoke the truth
>>97046691>A’yo! *smacks lips* So like yous tellin me that they be like aliens wit big teef n’shiet? Ionno bout all dat cuz *licks hot cheeto dust off his fingers*
>>97046718Based.
>>97046699Heckin epic comeback fellow 4channer. You ended him rightly with that response! Kino bambino!>>97046611I love these old models.Is the guy on the right a Hospitaller?
>>97044116Whats the link to the pre 10th codexes, the one in OP is not working for me.
>>97046575...is biotechnology not technology?
>>97046727not in this sense, no
>>97046727editing genes to make odd people is not the same as making guns and tanks
>>97046733Not with that attitude
>>97046307Just say you found the STC somewhere and tell anyone who asks that they’re not allowed to see it.
>>97046725>Is the guy on the right a Hospitaller?No but I can see what you mean. He just has the cross on all his studio pics, sometimes it's in redI'm pretty sure he's named after the narrator for the wombles
>>97046780They won't ASK to see it.
>>97046622I'd love you to point me where in the lore has ever been said that imperial guardsmen are exclusively white men and not everyone they can get to grab a lasgun regardless of gender or race.
old gw artists used to draw their lived experience of british monoculture, and now new gw artists draw their lived experience of watching american tv.
What would be the best kit for guevesa now that the old modular guardsmen kit that was compatible with fire warriors is oop?
>>97046837That explains why 40k has failed to pick up anything else of value to ripoff since the 80s.
>>97046149Oh, that's a good one. It's been years since I read the Metabarons, but it's a great comic.
>>97046837>Generation 1: OGs>Create things, iterate, experiment>Generation 2: Crossing the rubicon>IP holders cement designs, new people brought to stabilize product>Generation 3: Hollow Trunk>The OGs are mostly gone, Gen 2 runs a show they don't understand past what they're told.
>>97046837what the fuck are you even talking about90% of 40k was just people ripping off dune
>>97046844van saar and votann, no conversions except for a few tau antenna on unhelmeted van saar heads (the braid must be cut off) and one tau fire warrior helmet and gun on the guevesa unit sergeant just tau color scheme
What kind of transports do sisters use to get planetside during assaults? Do they have thunderhawks and stormhawks as well?
>>97046895>90% of 40k was just people ripping off dunelol
What is the gimmick of the Votann? Like what do they add to the setting that other factions don't
>>97046904They have these huge cathedrals that they drop down in.
>>97046691>50 years of game historyshill tourist detected
>>97046917Yo that's baller
>>97046917Who doesn't?
>>97046917Another image of the Void-Cathedrum.>>97046921yeah it's cool
>>97046926So they're both drop ships and tanks?
>>97046917That's so retarded. I both hate it and love it.
>>97046913>lollol
>>97046918that is not a black womyn with cornrows and I never said guard don't have womyn (I even acknowledged it up above).
>>97046933Some have tracks and some are 3km long space vesselsI forgot about the Battle Chapels that are their drop pods that carry 200 SoBs and are walkersthey dont do things in small squads like marines
>>97046917>>97046926>>97046950So when are we gonna get a FW resin version of this cathedral thing?
>>97046960FW cannot do stuff for 40k anymore.
>>97046960FW was stripped of its sovl and only makes HH and side game stuff.
Does anyone have the Boarding Actions' .pdf? Got some terrain printed out for it. I know the rules are on wahapedia but would like to go over the book for once.
>>97046960Anon it would be a terrain piece.They are enormous The only games it would be the correct size for are HH only
>>97046983It would also be a pretty baller terrain piece
>>97046980did you print that yourself or buy it from somewhere?
>>97046986Not going to argue with that, it really would
>>97046980STLs for this?
>>97046988I got the .stls, someone in my playgroup with the printer printed it out.
>>97046994I'm also not really sure how it would work tho. Maybe it could just be on the side of the table
>>97047000It would BE the table
>>97046933More like a drop city
>>97046960Pegasus Gothic terrain, plasticard and bits. Just built a gothic church, give it a roof and floor, slap some thrusters and guns on it, and use, say, Thunderhawk or Stormbird rules.
>>97046904They also have drop pods.
>>97046938What exactly do you have against black women and cornrows specifically. Did your nursery teacher spank your ass?
>>97047030Why are there nazi crosses on top part of the walls?
>>97046960FW is dead because we can't have nice things. Newfags can't comprehend just how special the FW golden age was.
>>97047040And Navy had dreadclaws, but void troopers specializing in boarding action can't have them because of retarded reasons.
>>97046033Faggot
>>97047061That'll be $500 plus tip
>>97047058Where?
>>97047058Old habits die hard.
>>97047061To be fair picrel (Ordinatus) were an EPIC unit, FW just made a cool 28mm version.Most of FW is just old/EPIC models being redone or reimagined
>>97047075I'd happily pay a premium for Imperial Armour style books instead of the literal slop GW feed us these days.
>>97047007That could be cool. Battle in the halls of the drop cathedral>>97047040Oh, sick>>97047058"Nazi crosses"
>>97047091FW made a ton of those epic designs in the first place.
>>97046501>Man, I love for my faction that could have been interesting to be instead reduced to a single guy who's only motivation is "getting more power".Yeah, I'm sure those "fans" always liked Darkmech.
>>97047100I just don't get people that want darkmech or lost and the damned as their own factions. That's just admech and IG but with daemon engines and both of those already exist.
>>97047100We are in Primarchia now. All factions are defined by the wants of one guy now.
>>97047099Did they? Genuine questiont. clueless
>>97047100>trying to gatekeep something you've never owned and never had any interest inLOL
>>97046914Friendly and equal AI
I love sissies with tiny clitties and I could never date a real woman.
>>97047138ignore pls. i posted in the wrong thread
>>97047123Yeah. Remember the space marine escort ships we still see to this day? Those are forgeworld designs, the GW versions looked like this. Half the epic ranges were FW resin, a lot of them variant designs they eventually remade in 28mm. FW before 2012 did tons of stuff for all the GW games. Then GW canned every single specialist game and FW started with the Heresy. Then Bligh died, 40k switched to 8th and quality took a nosedive and now FW doesn't exist.
>>97047138Lgbt is down the hall bud
the first ever alpha legion mini in 40k will be black how does this make you feel
>>97047176I don't care about the meme legion or whatever blacked library tries to present as relevant.
>>97047176I don't care because every marine should have a helmet.
>>97047133So Tau?
>>97047151I luv space marine battle barges
>>97047176The best AL stuff is in HH.For 40k all I need to do is learn how to make scales with greenstuff and maybe find some good STLs on purple.com
>>97047111Same anon. I absolutely agree. Any Darkmech models should be part of other Chaos factions, just like it was with Tzaangors. No need to give glorified cultists in flak armour and Evil(er) Admechs their own armies.
>>97047213>The best AL stuff is in HH.And the best AdMech and the best IG vehicles and the best marines...
>>97047126>"This stuff could have been done so much better".>"YOU WERE NEVER INTERESTED IN IT WHY DO YOU CARE?! GATEKEEPER! GATEKEEPER!"Darkmech being it's own faction sucks and the fact that it will be centered around a single retard who's existenced depends on hype bubble not bursting, doesn't help.
>>97047229Except most of those great designs are getting raped.Plastic Saux raped SauxPlastic mechanicus raped thralls and myrmidonsPlastic marines are okay (except new terminators)At least the vehicles are fine for the most part
>>97047138Those are men anon
What's the best dropper bottle acrylic paint (that isn't expensive like ProAcryl)?Vallejo?
>>97047265just buy them on sale like right now all colours are cheap
>>97047265Vallejo is fine, I had bubbling issue with one of their paints out of thirty something. People swear by AK 3rd Gen, heard good stuff about Ammo's Ionic series. Spaniards are pretty good at paints from the looks of it.
>>97047245Are you actually defending those those janky resin myrmidons sculpts? Besides, the secutors themselves haven't been replaced yet so those might end up better and more distinctive.
>>97047265vallejo has been working good for me
>>97047245>myrmidonsThese are great though? Not sure what people have against the new thralls they look the same to me.
>>97047279>Besides, the secutors themselves haven't been replaced yet so those might end up better and more distinctive.They are 100% gonna be a weapon sprue pack. And that would still be an upgrade.
>>97047265buy pro acryl or army painter or TTCdon't buy nu-vallejo, they ruined their paintline
>>97047265Vallejo is probably the best to go with. I've never had bad luck with AK, particularly their metallics. Fuck Army Painter.Turbo Dork makes some great looking color-shift metallics, but if they start to separate, they never fucking come back together. So use them quick.Did I mention, fuck Army Painter?Because FUCK Army Painter.Never liked ProAcryl. Maybe it's just because I use a wet palette but it would get way too watery way too fast to be worth much.Sucks that Citadel paints don't have dropper tops but you can get third party dropper toppers for them. Still, pulling them out to the palette isn't that hard and I've always had good luck with GW coming back together even after it's gotten old and separated from its medium.Fuck army painter.
>>97047279Yes, their only flaw was being overpriced resin, the designs are better.It's okay if you like them, I'm happy for you, but I'm not gonna lie to you and say the new ones are better.>>97047282>These looks great>Looks the sameNo offense but you're not autistic enough for this
>>97047310You're not autistic, you are addicted to outrage as a form of entertainment.
Make me resist boys...
>>97047328Post your backlog right now.
>>97047324>you are addicted to outrage as a form of entertainment.>he says, trying to start arguments
>>97047310Literally the only change with myrmidons is the shoulder pads and thralls look the exact same.
>>97047332Denying it or evading it won't be a step in the right direction.
>>97047328>-25%Pretty good deal
>>97047331n-no thats noones business
>>97047336>Literally>Not literallyThis is just shitty bait, no more (you)s>>97047338Live by what you preach.
>>97047339their deals are pretty good and when you order during the next week you enter a raffle and you can win shit like a leviathan box or the new Warhammer Dark water
>>97047344Oh no the new ones have bayonets, follow the las weapon nozzle design language and have more than 3 poses, the horror!
>>97047304NTA but, Is Army Painter really that bad? I heard their new paints are pretty good
>>97047344>Live by what you preach.Not until you see the error of your ongoing ways and correct yourself.
>>97047357They've gotten a lot better and Vallejo has gotten a lot worse. A lot of advice you find is going to be outdated or from people that haven't tried the more recent formulations.
>>97047265Army painter unironically.
>>97047357army painter fanatics are unironically in the top 3 paint brands nowadays, vallejo fell off hard with their new game formulations
>>97047356These look more like retard servitors than actual tech tralls.The poses suck ass.
>>97047378tech thralls ARE retarded servitors
>>97047352>raffleDon't fall for itOnly buy things you actually want and wait for it to go on sale to save
Remember what they took from you.
Cute feet!
>check tracking # for secret santa gift I sent>it arrived Thursday last week>check archive>no posts about itLet me know if you got it anon. Please tell me a porch pirate didn't steal the vaguely inappropriate xmas eldar I painted for you
>>97047413this fucking sucks
>>97047413>Remember what they took from youI will never forget.
>>97047435
>>97047444>coolit looks like those RC cars that can't flip over lmfao
>>97047357I keep hearing Army Painter has gotten better but every time I try them, it's still shit.I'm convinced these fags are shills being paid by army painter.
>>97047328>Make me resist boysLook at girls instead
>>97047472Genuine skill issue
>>97047357Really enjoy fanatic personally. They do seperate on a wet pallette fast so you have to keep mixing them but they apply very nicely
>>97047450nta but talking like a stupid teen is terrible bait, here's a pity (you)
>>97047533>no argumentHow disappointing, you don't even have the balls to defend your own dogshit opinions and have to hide behind the shield of anonymity to samefag yourself
I'm currently vacationing in the Netherlands right now, are there any places near Amsterdam and Utrecht that I should check out to snag some 40k stuff? Do they sell the Combat Patrol magazine here?
>>97047352taschengelddiebchad
Finished today, total time about 8-9 hours. Biggest mini i have done so far, could go further with highlights and cleanup and stuff but this my limit of how much time i want to spend on one model. Previous experience is three kill team squads.
>>97046577Fantasy elves are so fucking lame
>>97047653Is that a marine or an ork warboss, holy shit
>>97047677That's infinitely cooler than any eldar ever depicted though?
>>97047704No they’re so fucking dumb. Eldar just copies what fantasy (what little good of it) and actually makes it workable. Fucking the lions and dragon fetish high elves have had was always so fucking gay.
>>97047740>makes it workable>just normal elves but uglier with faggy hackneyed raypunk aestheticsLOL
>>97047282The heads and shoulder pads are a little off, but headswaps are the easiest conversion in the world and depending on how they're designed they might work fine leaving the pauldrons off.>>97047356>>97047336Both look good and it's entirely up to taste whether somebody prefer the regimented look or tech-zombies more. Anyone acting like there's no significant difference isn't autistic enough. Anyone saying either is objectively better or worse is too autistic.
>trying to make a cool forest/jungle base for dark eldar vehicle>i should put some kind of animals here>all diorama animals are ugly/badly designed>can't get second hand shit like kroot hounds or fenrisian wolves because ebay sellers are literally insane and think a box from 2024 is worth 200 dollars or something because it's 'oop'>3d printer shit also looks badOkayI guess I won't have animals then
>>97047822>Dude all stls look badRetard
>>97047827Yours are especially bad, etsy seller.
>>97047822you are a failed male on estrogen
Is this true? I can't find evidence of it being true anywhere/
>>97047827Don't bother he's trying to get you to spoonfeed him
>>97047837This
>>97047822Pick up some secondhand Khymerae. Now that they're a legends unit that used to be super meta I'm sure lots of people are dumping them
lads does anyone have the new Eldar Codex pdf by any chance?
>>97047927Check the archives. Can't upload PDFs here anymore and can't be assed to set up an external host
>>97044116>I missed the Tau twink generalI have failed.
>>97047822awawawa
Now that Grotmas is confirmed, what do you think we are getting for the 25 days of Christmas?
>>97048093Which UM character wants a model?
>>97048111That's not what grotsmas is dumb little tourist
>>97048093Trazyn and the big joke is going to be that he stole grotmas
>goes from posting on /tg/ to selling 3D printed Goblins for £40 each to simps and retardsI'm kinda proud
>>97048093i bet $100 there's a Tactical Marines detachment for Ultramarines so they can shift the last of their stock before they get sent to Legends.
>>97048129and all it took was being a mildly attractive woman in a male-dominated hobby, wow
>>97048093What is the grotmas anyway?I honestly dont remember
>>9704817625 days of reveals in one way or another, usually a bunch of rummor engines
>>97048142Louise has more painting skill in her pinky than half of this general combined.
>>97048093Vostroyans. The tinboy has a 25 on its shoulder
Chad fucks. Beta bucks
>>97048184Lol
>>97048184It has a 25 on its shoulder because it's a christmas model dingdong
Admech is getting to be a dated range after the ten years of modern sculpts that came after it. Might sell my admech sprues and stick with CSM until another release wave I like comes out.
>>97046611>I'm now going to paint 20 battle sistersOkay it might be 19 sisters and Coteaz>>97048183Shes also very sweet and nice, I met her at a con a while ago and she was lovely. I'm glad shes doing well for herself.Also I also got to see that model in person at whw a few years back and it is even more absurd in person.
>>97048210what models do you think are dated and why?
>>97048210>the brain of the nu40k sloppa fan
>>97048210Yeah. 40k csm is trash compared to HH
>>97048093I honestly wouldn't hate if we just got more detachments againplease god just give us an abhuman detachment for imperial guard I just want my ogryns to have an army rule
>>97048183Her real skill are her color choices, she doesn't do anything super mindblowing from a technical standpoint
I finished my Fire Dragon. I dont think I'll paint anotger Eldar model again, but it was a fun little project.
>>97048224>>97048232>>97048233Listen. If I don't get a complete line refresh every 5 years I don't know why I'd bother with this game
>>97048093New model for 40k Guilliman.
>>97048263Noice gems
>>97048093>1. Calgar, Tank Commander>2. Titus in Terminator Armor>3. Tigurius on Jet Bike>4. Acheran in Dreadnaught>5. Cato with Jump Pack>6. Titus with Heavy Bolter in Gravis Armor>7. Malum Cado>8. Ventris in Phobos Armor>9. Titus in Tactical Warsuit>10. Agemman, Captain>11. Gulliman, Toga Edition>12. Illiyanne Natase (Ultramarines, not playable in Eldar) >13. Titus, Deathwatch Veteran (Ultramarines, not playable in Deathwatch)>14. Cawl Inferior (Ultramarines, not playable in AdMech)>15. Tyrannic War Veterans (Ultramarines, not generic marines)>16. Plague War Veterans>17. Cataphracti Terminators (Ultramarines, not generic marines)>18. Titus in a fancy hat with margarita>19. Calgar, Centurion>20. Gulliman and Yvraine, Pactbound>21. Valius and Decimus, Invader ATV pilots>22. Straban, Fire strike Turret Master>23. Lords of Ultramar, Beach Season>24. The Ultra Red Gobbo (Ultramarines, not playable in Orks)>25. The Black Lion of Ultramar
I had diarrhea and I looked down. I saw 40k Guilliman and the Lion
We img limitCome on down>>97048314>>97048314
>>97048210Nothing that came after 7th edition and the start of Primaris is ever going to be considered "dated". At least not for many, many years. That's just the modern standard everything is being brought up to. And they're getting pretty close now once they finish the last few old ranges next edition. Then they can just focus on expansion of smaller ranges.
>>97047653Nice
