Enforcing compliance edition>Previous Thread: >>97086171>HH 3.0 - Complete gofile - All Books:https://gofile.io/d/cnJk0N>New Edition, to a great wailing and gnashing of teeth:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/setting/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads:https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-the-horus-heresy/>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS>30k TACTICA & TIPShttps://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLphttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Age_of_Darkness-Warhammer_30k/3.0_Tactics/General_Tactics『Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis』>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloadshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/legions-imperialis/>List of Titan Legions with Badges and Colourshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jccq0V--SwJifLVLwbisYnQeqLlS2pMSiPbGXp1Brs/htmlview>More listshttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Titan_Legions>What size magnets do I need?5x1mm>Tacticshttps://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Adeptus_Titanicus/Tactics>Legions Imperialis Army Builderhttps://legionbuilder.app/>Thread question:If you could give your warlord any wargear regardless of legion or unit restriction what would you give it?
>>97100259TQ: Phosphex bomb
>tqthree terranic greatswords and a volcano cannonMost badass Optae ever.
AL need a termie moritat with double conversion beamers
>>97100259>If you could give your warlord any wargear regardless of legion or unit restriction what would you give it?I cant really think of anything. The headsmans axe is one of the better weapons in the game, certainly the coolest. And its not like giving the warlord a RG jump pack helps when hes in a unit of normal dudes.Is chameleonine a wargear option? I guess that. Maybe one of the EC implants.
>>97100259>Thread question:A vortex grenade.
>>97100259>tqA destroyer missile launcher>>97100287based
Whatever this guy has. I don't think I could run him WYSIWYG in 2.0, moreso in 3.0.
>>97100350...that's just a terminator librarian or esoterist with force axe? What's the big deal
>>97100350Couldn't you just use him as an esoterist in termi armour? Just say that the chainaxe is a force weapon.
>>97100350Esoterist in terminator armor with force axe?
>>97100370>>97100376>>97100382Lightning claw?
>>97100428Both in 2.0 and 3.0 the terminator librarian can take a terminator melee weapon in the off hand, likely because of exactly this model.
>>97100439in 2.0 i loved doing that with an esoterest, give him a force sword and a power weapon.
>>97100428Bruh he's shooting a demon from his hand; just pretend it's some sort of arcane summoning glove or whatever.There comes a point where WYSIWYG becomes ridiculous, especially if it would mean letting a cool and unique mini like this one collect dust on the shelf.
>>97100439Yeah I used it basically as a power weapon. Close enough >>97100453I agree, I was just responding to the TQ
>>97100343Oh or i would enjoy giving rad grenades that would be cool.
>>97100259eviscerator, the old-style one that's a double-handed chainfist, replacing both weapons for a terminator or one weapon for a non terminatorbut with Reaping Blow and a slightly better IM than chainfists, and Critical Hit (6+) in challenges
>>97100259>If you could give your warlord any wargear regardless of legion or unit restriction what would you give it?Since my warlord is a Scintillax, idk. Maybe a Maxima Bolter?
>>97100259Wow, you stupid faggots did it again. Thanks for tricking me into thinking this was any IP other than assworkshop
>>97100620I know those are Alpha Phoenix Guard but they sure look like Ultras
>>97100639kek
>>97100259Related to the OP pic, I hope we get Doombreed for Legions Imperialis.
Done!
>>97100620Holy shit I've seen that that AL army in a blog long ago, really cool army!
>>97100639Lmao get fucked retard.
>>97100800The big guy?
>>97100312Your WAAC legion has enough shit already.
>>97100639This too is a lie
>>97100800Titans can't run REEEEEEEE
>>97100625Isn't the crassus Solar Auxilua only? Or is this 2.0?
>>97100453WYSIWYG is for autistically modeling a mini's full panalopy, adding a couple extra options is kosher anyway. For proper WYSIWYG that termie should actually have a combi bolter strapped to its waist in addition to the melee weapons
>>97100800Oh shit that fucker is full sized? I thought that was LIgma. Awesome!
If I could give any officer any Wargear, then I'd give them appropriately priced Wargear. Combi weapons +10 pts if you're bare handed, but still +10 pts even if you're already wielding a combi-bolter? Away with that shite
>>97100587>replacing both weapons for a terminator or one weapon for a non terminatorTermies are stronger, so it should be the other way around>but with Reaping BlowReaping Blow should be exclusive to the Death Guard, so go blow a power scythe. They're conditional power axes, so you'll be fine though.
>>97100639Bro really thought he was in the Godzilla General of tg
>>97100620>>97100640>>97100893What are Phoenix termies for, this time around? I guess they can kill those nasty TH Assault Vets before they get to swing? A counter to the Termie counter.Can't think of a better VEQ target
>>97101066They're for STILL being be best looking legion terminator, even after all this time.
>>97101085They stole their combat res aura and their optional legion standard, man. That was so not cash money of GW
>>97100259>tqJust give full librarian abilities to burning lore. I’m paying 40 pts give me something I would think of paying more than 5 pts for>>97100229Get some real chest hair and run 200 militia infantrymen with volkite
>>97101040>Termies are stronger, so it should be the other way aroundno no you don't understand>Eviscerator>Terminator Evisceratorbeing stronger is welded into the profile, the fucker's for bisecting dreadnoughts
I've just skimmed through the legacy pdf and am now obsessed with Destroyers
>>97101600They're pretty RAD-ical.
>>97101600I like them, one of my favorite space marine units since I learned they existed. If only their bolt pistols could fire rad-bolt ammo.
>>97101600Yeah destroyers are really fun this ed. High value and dynamic while not being broken
>>97100259Im a fucking sucker for backpack/Shoulder mounted guns, especially combo'ed with a two handed weaponI'd rip one of Ferrus Manus back guns off like alpha-12 or Epsilon-415 and give it to a iron father. Or hell i'd take Feirros's backpack mounted bolt gun and give it to a forge father. So lame and gay out of all the Iron hands they only do it for Ferrus. Feel like every iron hand would fuck around with experimental shit on their back.
>DESTROYERS>SHUNNED EVEN BY THEIR LEGION FOR USING HORRIFYING FORBIDDEN WEAPONRY>two bolt pistolsThey really failed with the execution of destroyers.
>>97100620ooooooh lovely battle and armies anon
>>97100800based and titan pilled
>>97101937They really dropped the ball with them using two regular bolt pistols. They could've pretended they were shooting rad bolts (poison 3+? Phage Str?) and make an excuse that the ammo corrodes barrels, so that's why they use weapons with the shortest possible barrels: pistols.And now Vets can get regular disintegrators by the bucket load so...you know. Open the proscribed vaults to the rightful wielders?
>>97101937It's especially funny that in 2.0 Despoilers got the option to take two pistols, so Destroyers became even less unique. Their whole problem is that FW didn't know what to do with them while writing up how they're super-duper special. Reaping DG does Destroyers via any other unit better than Destroyers themselves ever could. Rad grenades, chem-flamers, etc.
>>97101937If they get rereleased in plastic I hope they look more like the Dreadwing Interemptor squad. The helmet having more of a gas mask look and bulkier weapons
>>97101937You uh, missed the grenades I see.
A very particular question: out of all the Legions, which ones do you think evokes the idea of rule of law and justice? Not necessarily espoused by the Legion itself mind you, but rather what they expect from the worlds that they've seized and the regular human armies that follow them.
>>97102279NTA, the grenades are there and I find them very cool this time. It's not grenade and pistol, it's grenade OR pistols. And it just feels weird that it's regular pistols, is all>Rad grenades no longer have any kind of area of effect>They're just chunk of uranium that start glowing after the safety is pulled off>When thrown, the stone goes through things (like the target) until it reaches solid ground
>>97102301Ultramarines are the only ones who'd care about enforcing law over "do what I say or I'll kill you."
>>97102301Ultramarines and Imperial Fists are the first ones that come to mind
>>97102303>It's not grenade and pistol, it's grenade OR pistolsThey have both anon. They have both their conventional weapons, and the more situational/esoteric "war crime" weapons. And those weapons are suitably horrifying (poison 2+ ap3).They also just mechanically work in a way that fits their intended role. Theyre a high damage glass cannon unit, borderline suicidal but with a damage output that makes them incredibly scary regardless of that.
>>97102303>Rad grenades no longer have any kind of area of effectWhen did they have?
>>97102321I think anon must be confusing them with rad missiles.
>>97102303Aw man, autocorrect ate my S's and now I sound Chinese>Chunk of uranium glow, you throw chunk>It burn strong>It burn through xenophilic enemy of Golden Chairman of Mankind
>>97101937Destroyers should be the ones to get disintegrators, not veterans
>>97102321>>97102333Never mind, I had forgotten Phage (X) affects the entire unit
>>97102301Ultras, Thousand Sons, Fists but really autistically
>>97102336Correct. If anything Lists of weapons taht Destoryers should get 1 per 5, or maybe even 1 per 3>D guns>Rad missile launcher>Some sort of poison flamer
>>97102321Maybe anon is confusing them with phospex bombs? Which no longer leave the AOE terrain thing. Although phosphex got panic 3 to compensate. So I think its scarier than ever.
>>97102350>disintegration pistols and rifles stock>anyone can upgrade rifle to a chem-flamer>pistols can be swapped for chem-hand flamers>1 per 5 models can take a heavy disintegrator, toxiferran flamer, rad missile launcher or stasis missile launcher>whole unit can be upgraded to have phosphex bombs (1 per model)
>>97102406That would be too expensive. Double bolt pistols and chainsword stock. Can swap pistols for a dis rifle or one pistol for a dis pistol, one in five gets a dis blaster, mortalis get a heavy dis option
>>97102406>>pistols can be swapped for chem-hand flamers>40 poison 2+ flamer templates per turn
>>97100259double escaton claws..!
>>97102452The entire unit should be able to take escaton claws, change my mind.
>>97102425>That would be too expensive.So just like regular Destroyers then.
>>97100959Its a LoW so it can be taken by Legion armies as well, as a separate LoW detachment.
>>97102525But can you stick guys in it?
>>97100317>chameleonine breast implants.welp, guess it's nighty-night from me
>>97101937Don't they get toxiferran flamers, rad launchers and psy ammo to pick from anymore? I was told the legacies added back everything.
>>97100312WE need a melee Moritat
>>97102882Toxiferran and psyk out ammo were added at the end of 1st and never came back.
>>97102887That's just a regulat Centurion with 2 melee weapons
>>97102898I'm sure the flamers were still a thing in 2.0 but rip psy grenades. One would think that they wouldn't remove one of the 3 fluffy choices for nullificator armies but whatever.
I'm watching all interviews on Youtube with Rick Priestley, John Blanche, Jervis Johnson and so on.When Ars Technica did Warhammer lore interviews they had Dan Abnett.Who is this guy interviewed by IGN, is he a Black Library author, or a GW employee?He can't be just "some random guy" right?
>>97101066phoenix terms are purely for style points. They got butchered in 3rd edition with an utterly useless 2 attacks each and dont even gain a 3rd for charging. Their spears are entirely useless except when charging, so they lose if they ever take a non-assault transport or if a fight ever lasts 2 rounds (which means they can't use defensive WS to drag the fight out as a strategy, since they'd lose round 1 and hard hard lose round 2-4 of combat). They're 5++ and no EW1, so about the squishier of termies to match their lowest damage output. You can slap 2-3 characters in the unit to try to do the damage while the basic troopers just BITCHMODE defense WS, but that strat is instantly worthless if the enemy uses any precision at all to bully the characters joining the phoenixes, or any super statuses / super shooting to shred the glass terms or immobilize them forever, or if they have any beatsticks like Vulkan/Abaddon who would assrape EC characters joining the unit in a duel while the phoenixes accomplish nothing and don't help with WS in the duel. Oh, they're also pussies so if you snipe the one champ phoenix the rest are 8/8 and run away instantly while justaerin stay 10/8 to the last guy.I own one squad purely for looks. They can't even be proxied for less shitty 3A Chosen Tartaros because Chosen Tartaros don't get Phoenix Spears as an option. I guess if you don't use their arms and give them a pair of lightning claws they can be 5A command tartaros instead of 2A phoenix, but that's not fashionable.
>>97102981He is literally just a random guy with a youtube channel where he shares his opinions on books and lexicanum articles.
>>97102981IGN has been a random clickbait joke for 10 years now
>>97103098>They can't even be proxied for less shitty 3A Chosen Tartaros because Chosen Tartaros don't get Phoenix Spears as an option. I guess if you don't use their arms and give them a pair of lightning claws they can be 5A command tartaros instead of 2A phoenix, but that's not fashionable.I thought Command Tarts could take Phoenix Spears?
>>97103304Ah, nvm, I see now, it's just the Unit Leader.
>>97103304No, only models with the Command/Champion/Sergeant Sub-type get spears.Praetorian Command squads, Tartaros Command squads and Cataphractii Command squads are not command sub-types, despite the naming. So a 10man command squad could put one spear on the champion but the other 9 spearmen wouldn't be allowed.
>>97102460I'm fine with champ getting the escaton claws. But I believe Chainglaive should have the same stats as Headsman's axe (make it an eviscerator which is a large chainsword with power sword generator) - just raise the points costs. Then NightLords would actually be SCARY not "look at those losers thinking chainsaws do anything"Also, GW even gets their own weapon names wrong. The praetor definitely has a giant Headsman's Axe chain axe, but the product page calls it a basic chainglaive for some reason.
>>97103389>But I believe Chainglaive should have the same stats as Headsman's axeNah, the axe is the axe (and is suitably brutal now). Chainglaives are also fine for what they are, power weapon equivalent. Contekar should simply have the option to upgrade them for something.
>>97103389GW's webstore is a joke. The product page for scatter dice still says it has 5 arrows and 1 hit symbol, when that is factually wrong. The scatter dice in the saturnine box is still the same as it has always been: 4 arrows, 2 hit.It has been wrong for around 4 years now.
>>97102981Who?
>>97103389How does that dink-ass pistol need that many wires?
>>97103568...the praetor got assfucked by GW writers. It's a volkite-serpenta like a moritat gets... except GW gives the moritats with the exact same gun "overcharged volkite serpenta" which is 4x S6 instead of 2x S5 shots and moritat has Firestorm so he gets 16 shots per turn with no snapshots and not forced to try to charge, while praetor gets 2 shots then volley fire is a piddly 2 shots hitting on 5+ and he has to try to charge and on a failed leadership test falls over stunned.The big cables look fine on the moritat 16 shot version... not so much with 2-4
>>97103568That's a volkite charger anon
>>97103612that's not a volkite charger anon. Volkite charger is the lernaean's gun with no wires.
>>97103610>>97103635Terminators can't have a volkite serpenta, retard-kun. It's a volkite charger - always has been.
>>97102301Ironically Night Lords.
>>97103568Because its actually a wrist mounted volkite charger. >>97103635Yea, and this one has wires to account for the difference in design. The regular gun has the battery pack attached directly to the barrel and is therefore bigger, the NL praetor has a smaller, wrist mounted, version that instead moves the power-pack to their back and connects it via wires.
