Previous: >>97131354Kith & Kin edition (hey that rhymes)>Most recent bracket system updatehttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025>Outline article introducing the bracket systemhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta>Current banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Gay Bolashttps://e621.net/posts?tags=nicol_bolas>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper formathttps://pdhhomebase.com/https://www.pdhrec.com/>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.comhttps://www.tappedout.net>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Card searchhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>TQWhat would be the ideal card they could print for YOUR deck(s) in ECL?
>TQBOGGARTS
>TQI literally don't know. I'm sure there will be no good boros cards for any of my decks.
Post old staples that still fuck
>>97138087Where did you learn to talk like this you retarded zoomy
>>97138064>TQNew golgari elf lord with sac outlet, graveyard recursion, or token generation
It's simple in concept. Just give it some fairy flavour, whatever
>>97138064They did, and it's UB sloppa
>>97138064The answer always has been, and always will be, "skeleton support commander". It must be a running joke at Wizards that they never create one under any circumstances
>>97138098But Jared already exists and does 2/3 that
>>97138064TQ: Golgari Troll LordTrolls are such a cool creature type, and currently lack any tribal support.
how bad is it going to be as head to ETB/blink deck?
>>97138156>has to attackAlready bad.
I need a big mana Rakdos/Grixis commander for these. Is it Cormela?
>>97138087Thats a dogshit card albeit
>>97138156>Flash it in to block>"You kicked my dog."
>>97138173
>>97138156> Shepherd> is actually a Corgi
>>97138116Would this be fifty cents or five bucks?
>>97138156Hear me out, have him herd rabbits
>>97138193Youre retarded or esl, maybe even both!
>>97138202It'd be very cheap. Despite the difference in mana cost and not being *exactly* the same, we've seen this effect before. Diplomatic Escort is another example on a creature
>>97138064>What would be the ideal card they could print for YOUR deck(s) in ECL?A jund or Monored Smaug card who is the strongest dragon ever printed.
>>97138228no he's right, corgis herd cattle.
>>97138156This isn't that good in edh thoughbeit, maybe in the 99. It's more of a 60cuck cards. Abdel is way more better.
>>97138203Still bugs me how all these kinda cards are so expensive. I want one for every monocolor but they're all like 3-5bux each and you need at least 30-35 each for the deck
>>97138095Silicon Valley>>97138087Ok
>>97138087FUCK artifact decks
>>97138260God what'd id do for Guay art on MTG cards again. Its too kino for the shit theyre on now.
>>97138272Are you sure, anon? Really sure?
>>97138272Dark ritual has a lot of great art over the years but the masques Guay art is the one in all my decks
>Dude, you need to run interaction >I can't afford it>Murder is like a fucking quarter dude>Stop trying to tell me how to build my decks>Okay, fair enough. Sorry man.>I dOnT kNoW wHy I'm NoT aBlE To WiN eVeRyOnE's BoArD gEt OuT oF cOnTrOl sO FaSt>Dude, you need to run interaction>repeat forever.I need to get some meds for my social anxiety I can't take my friend pod anymore.
>>97138238>Despite the difference in mana cost and not being *exactly* the sameThe difference between a 1-mana counterspell and a 2-mana counterspell is the difference between the sun and the moon. They're incomparable.
>>97138349Next game night, suggest that everyone swap decks for some novelty factor.Give your buddy a deck with lots of interaction. Not a full control list (he won't know how to pilot or win with that) but something like a black deck with 10-15 kill spells.It's like touching a hot stove, in reverse. You can tell him to run removal but he won't. You need to SHOW him how it FEELS to always have it.
>>97138307her art has devolved so much when sam guay started making art I thought she'd gone tranny
>enjoy simple decks >feel like doing chores when playing anything with some convoluted gameplan>enjoy tweaking decks but hate deckbuilding from 0am I just retarded?
>>97138307Secret lairs are pop art shite doesnt count
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
Why are people so confused by Deflecting Swat?
>>97138431I don't know how they could be
Bring Back Tuck (BBT)
damn those avatar screenshot cards are REALLY undesired when staples like drannith magistrate dropped to less than half the other printings at bonus sheet MYTHIC
>>97138438yjk
>>97138307>>97138403She still makes kino when she tries
>>97138459Drannith sells for $10 now and the shitty avatar alt art sells for $8. I love drannith but so many people I play with throw bitchfits about it so I stopped running it in my decks. It dies to any removal, it's good but hardly broken.
>>97138388
>>97138431Think of the average magic player. Now realize half of all players are dumber than that
>>97138504Image not related
>build dirt cheap combo deck>ends up being too fast for the pod>build zurzoth devil tribal>pod hates it because of random discard>build landfall>turns out I hate playing landfall>build voltron>pod too heavy on interaction to work reliably (in mono red at least)i swear to got if the next deck i build doesn't stick i'll just stop and end up playing 3 decks forever
>>97138431Some people just can't think in 3D after three hours of magic and seven drinks, probably genetic weaknessSomeone played picrel at our last game and my one friend couldn't wrap his head around when and how the target change is randomized>does it say target and are there any other valid targets>if yes, randomize it amongst all the valid targets
>>971385443 of those are your fault.
>>97138260>Post things that FUCKRetard
>>971385234€ here from 10€ in english
Redpill me. Any cool tech? Already got Anathemancer in the list
>>97138544>dirt cheap combo decklink? i could use one
>>97138595This is one of the more build-by-numbers commanders in FIN. What exactly are you expecting?
rate me azula deck, very avataryhttps://archidekt.com/decks/17493977/azula_parnesse
>come to play this casual format that is 100 singleton to make decks varied and less reliable for more fun>hurr durr tutors for comboretards
>>97138595Get the new card from the scene box thoughbeit
>>97138595This is like asking for advice with building Giada. For the love of god learn to think for yourself
>>97138590Foreign language cards are always cheaper than English, fraulein
>>97138064>TQSelesnya Slopper for life so I’ll probably find a decent use for at least one nu-Llorwyn Kithkin card
>>97138609It's been said over and over and over but I'll say it again: this format was completely doomed when retards started optimizing the fun out of it. I've watched games that end on turn 4 from people tutoring out infinite combos. Just how is that fun??
Does anyone have a play a Mr. House, treasure subtheme, deck? I have a copy of Jaws that is just collecting dust and was wondering if its a good include? Anyone tried this out yet?
>>97138595Wizard tribal.dek
>>97138640This is a really good card and I'm very upset that it's stuck behind a ub property that I don't like
>>97138640>Does anyone have a play a Mr. House, treasure subtheme, deck?Mr House and constantly rolling d20s is a very common deck, probably *the* only deck you'll find people playing with him
>>97138632I said in english
>>97138596don't have my current list saved up as i fuck around with the decks between the games often but i used this one as one of references https://moxfield.com/decks/JJP2nEsv80SyGUPFn5nISAi definitely swapped pricier cards like invasion of ikoria, circle of dreams druid and green sun's zenith for shit like hurricane or copperhorn scout and it still works well
>>97138654Same, anon. I've been dreaming of a card like pic rel for 20 years, and it's a fucking Sonic card
>>97138595Wizards and cantrips.
>be monoblack enjoyer>have access to the best tutors but refuse to include them because it's against the spirit of EDH and makes games boring and samey>have access to the best discard to compensate for poor non-creature removal from the field, but refuse to include it because preventing people from slamming down cards isn't as fun as dealing with them when they're on the board (looking at you, blue counters and white stax)>have access to braindead safe 2-card infinites like Exquisite Blood/Sanguine Bond but refuse to include them because you like actually playing the game>in a world of izzet prowess slop and pushed green landfall commanders, the humble black deck has never been broken in a way that ruins the formatEthical blackchads LITERALLY hold this format together. Have you thanked them today?
>>97138638>Just how is that fun??I don't do it because I necessarily want to. I do it because I just got turn 4 combo'd yesterday and it's a dog-eat-dog world.
>>97138638especially when every other commander now is just a card draw engine or worse
>>97138676$25 lifelink tribal deck with no tricks, no tutors, no infinites, no bullshit. Nothing over $1. Other colors could learn a thing or two
>>97138691>Nothing over $1These are the decks I like the most.
>>97138581to my defense i didn't realise how much faster combo decks are in practice in edh, thought it'd just be another playstyle, not sure what i expected with mono red voltron though
yea I'm running land destruction because I think it's fun and I don't care what you think.
>>97138721Why do people use anime girl sleeves? Have you sat across from someone using them and ever thought, "hey, that looks so cool." ?
>>97138691Decklist?
>>97138738>he does things for other people's validation
>>97138691Incredibly based.
>>97138738This guy is proof that NPCs exist. He's in the thread for the format built around personal expression and cannot understand why people would express themselves.
>>97138738>Why do people do things that make them happy?You must be real fun at parties.
Im unable to enjoy a deck that doesn't abuse the graveyard
Im going to build a thematically tier 3 deck where I roleplay talk the whole boardstate as if it was a game of Final Fantasy and there's nothing you can do to stop me.
>Pod agreed about a year ago to allow proxies, but with the caveat it be cards we already owned so we didn't have to rebuy expensive staples or to test decks out before we bought cards to see if we like it>Seemed fair, everyone agreed.>One of them showed up the following weak to that with 3 5 color decks with all the of the tri, true duals, shocks, and etc>Ask him outright, "are you going to buy those true duals?">Ofcourse not>So why are they in your proxy deck>THEY'RE JUST LANDS BRO!>Eventually get the rest of the pod to agree its been a week and he's already going against the agreement.>He finally relents and takes them out.>Fast forward to tonight.>Guy has spend the last year working hard and buying every card in those test decks with legit copies of expensive staples and etc>Says he wants to bring something up with the group>He thinks we should stop using proxies, even though we've reigned it in sticking pretty true to our initial agreement, because "everyone's decks are on the same level and that's not fun for him anymore.>IE, he wants us to power down so we get stomped any time we aren't using our main decks.How do I have a frank and earnest conversation about how much of a fuck wit he's being?
>>97138760Every day I wish it was legal
What's a deck you enjoy regardless of winning or losing?
>>97138638Singleton legacy is fun. I consistently get a turn 3 game winning combo off with my combo deck and it's lots of fun. Assembling the combo and managing to play through counterspells and silences against 3 other players trying to stop me is very satisfying. Also games don't last 2 hours so if someone wins quick we can just reshuffle and start a new game. Battle cruiser metas are fun, but so are high interaction optimized metal. There are so many ways to play magic and different deckstyles to build, that's what makes the game so great.
>>97138780This is why it's dishonest to say proxies are the problem, it's players that are WAACfags. Tell him to either chill out or leave the playgroup, there's no two ways about it.
>>97138738they cost less than 2 dollars
>>97138738Why do you care so much about what other people think and impressing people? Why are you trying to make people think you're cool with your magic deck? You sound lame and gay.
>>97138779That sounds awesome. I'd love to play with you.
>>97138780Oh hey it's another "proxies aren't the problem, stupid assholes are the problem" post. My group proxies nearly everything between $1-$10 and has no problem proving the cards they proxied are that cheap with scryfall on our phones. We don't run *any* cards over $10, unless they raise in price after we added them to our decks. Haven't had a problem in 8 years
>>97138780Honestly you probably should have just allowed people to freely proxy whatever purely mana-giving lands they want from the beginning without the expectation of buying them like other cards. Your friend is partly right in that true duals are expensive due to artificial scarcity rather than power, and if it's just 1 or 2 they don't make that much of a difference to whether a deck wins or not. But a 10x more expensive mana base than the rest of the table is a distinct advantage and he's being wilfully ignorant if he won't admit thatKinda too late to establish that rule that now that your imbecile pal went on an anime training arc and torpedoed his financial wellbeing on cardboard though, so good luck having that conversation
I got a good pull out of my choco bundle :)
>>97138193Look up what corgis were bred for mate ^.^
>twink male>good pullmost homosexual general on /tg/, btw.
>>97138806Yarok attractions. I just find the idea of opening a theme park and playing "roll the dice for prizes" to be so fucking neat. And it has these two to send someone to the shadow realm when I've got like 20 fucking attractions out + all the rocks/etc
>>97138826Theres no relevant cards with 'crystal' in the name outside the ones printed in the set im honestly a little shocked
>>97138841Whoa you got a download link for a jpg? What a steal!
>>97138816literally the only good reason.>>97138747>>97138758>>97138759>>97138824femcoded
Imperial Recruiter can tutor this nigga
>>97138876It's an artifact. There's like 100 different cards that can tutor for it
>>97138841I got this and I don't even like XIV that much
>>97138894Whew.
>>97138808this, plus it's much more fun to play in LGS with randoms than casual commander because you won't get some faggot crying when you oubliette their commander or don't let them "do their thing"
>>97138813>Tell him to either chill out or leave the playgroup, there's no two ways about it.Yeah, the issue is I don't think I have enough pull in the group to get them to agree to that, though if it comes down to it, I'll probably leave because I don't feel like playing the same deck or get stomped.>>97138829He was part of the group that only wanted to proxy things we would buy, otherwise people would do things like Tabernacle and Bazaar of Baghdad, and other very powerful and expensive RL cards or at least that was his concern. It was less about the fact it was lands, and about the fact he couldn't go a single week before breaking the agreement that pissed me and others off. They are still the best lands, however, and I would have been fine with it if we said they were fine, but we didn't.
>>97138738How often are you looking at the backside of people's cards unless they play morph? Do you actually star at their hands and decks?
>>97138691Absolutely basedList?
>woow look at what i got out of the overpriced/scalped 200 dollar bundle!>a 10 dollar card marked up due to artificial scarcity and FF boomersWow anoncuck, i am so now buying this scam bundle thank you shillGODS i can't wait to pull barret and have him fuck my wife thank yu kind sir
>>97138927You underestimate just how autistic some people are
>>97138927You'll see the sleeves alot more than a boobie front side to be honest, but its still just being mad for the sake of being mad.
>>97138257They're 3-5 bucks because you need so many for the deck
>>97138927>looking at the backside of peoplethey usually have a hand of cards, there is usually a huge stack of cards called a library.All it does is fetish signal to other weirdos. There is nothing normal about having loli shit or huge boobed "girls" on card sleeves. It only reinforces that the mtg space is filled packed full of LGBT and pedos
>>97138926>It was less about the fact it was lands, and about the fact he couldn't go a single week before breaking the agreement that pissed me and others offYeah that was my friend>we're all poor as fuck, ask to proxy for all the cards under 5bux we all really wanna play>next week we bring fun decks that do fun things>one guy brings a $1000+ net deck >entire game plan is to tutor for sanguine bond/exquisite blood ASAP and ramp/cheat it out by turn 4>our proxy plan lasted 1 whole ass week before one dude ruined it, and he got pissy when everyone called him out and threatened to leave the groupIt takes only one asshole to ruin everything for the rest of the pod.
>>97138937Sorry I upset you you worthless poor faggot who doesnt like anything. I'll be more respectful of you next time.I don't even like xiv that much like I said. I wanted Lulu and lands
>>97138937uh oh melty...
wow thanks youtthe (you)s kind stranger :)
>>97138974Most of them are. I got real lucky a couple years ago when some shop on tcgplayer listed 38 Persistent Petitioners for 30 cents each. Bought the whole stash right then and there, no hesitation
>>97138985>made for clothed paizuri>even pai-fella
>TQ SEA MONSTER SUPPORT PLEASEOr Flood Counters, I just think its a neat underused mechanic
Is this even playable?
>>97139053Yes?
>>97139053This is the only proliferate activated abiility that doesnt tap, so infinte mana sink is pretty good
>>97139053I feel like theres way better proliferate options and ways to avoid getting swung at, namely propaganda which is more immediate. Shes cute tho
im playing in the world championships for mtgi cast this against your cavern of souls cast, response?oh and im allowed to keep it because my mistake, as a pro player i didnt realize what cavern of souls does, i take it back into my hand, okay? ;)
>>97139053>viral drake (without infect) in the command zoneIt's playable in very low level pods.
>>97138780I always support proxying lands. No one finds spending thousands on lands exciting. Just agree to how powerful a manabase should be for the pod and stick with that proxy or not
my spirit nigga protects my bling. beware.
>>97138691Lifelink isn't a tribe
very important question for me - apes, beasts, or fungus/saporling tribal? i associate myself with each one equally, some might say closer to fungus though
>>97139053I prefer the coomette version
>>97139088Wrong thread buddy
>>97139106pay the tax, 1 mana per artifact you have.oh and i just played a rest in peace. >>97138271
>>97139135i know. just let me. the other thread is painfully slow.
what do you do once you have enough decks and are happy on how everyone works?
>>97139161make another deck, joy is complacency
>>97139161>been playing for 18 months now>only have 4 decks im happy with out of 20+ builtGoreclaw mono greenTevalHearthhull, the Worldseed (the precon but i changed like 4 cards)Ramos, Dragon EngineI dunno what to build or do next. I feel like I should do an enchantments deck or artifacts/spells, idk.
>>97139161I am autistic and just enjoy the art.
>>97139161Look at legendaries until I see a new one that makes me want to make a deck.
>>97139161i just look at new legendaries and ponder if any would make the deck better and just generally on the outlook for upgrades since most non-stax strategies tend to get thrown in a bone every once in a while
>sit down to a bracket 4 game>get a lucky double tutor in hand>cast a ritual>kill the table by spamming spells>handshake and get my free pack>realise a few weeks later that one opponent had a kambal and I should have killed myself
>>97139161Wait a week for another dozen new sets to come out.
>>97139199>get my free packyou have to pay to sit down, the free pack is given whether you win or lose mate.
I want to build this and it seems really fun, but a comment I saw from someone said that as soon as you go to transform, you're gonna get removed. this sets back your entire gameplan 2 turns minimum and you're kinda fucked.now you can say that about a lot of commanders, but this one specifically i think it does get fucked over by being removed before it can do its thing.is this comment right or overreaction?
>>97139178My current decks that I haven't cannibalized:>Grist, the Hunger Tide (midrange/aggro, goal is to dump cards into grave and play a bunch of creatures that self-reanimate for cheap)>Scarab God (reanimator/clone tribal/creatures with disruptive ETBs)>Yawgmoth (artifacts and sac loops)>Kroxa (hand control)>Athreos, God of Passage (taxes/burn)
>>97139208no, it's free to sit at my storewe just have decency to not stomp with overpowered decks
>>97139256>we just have decency to not stomp with overpowered decks>2 tutors in his deck, god knows what other gamechangerssounds like a fun store. 5 people max per night?
Trannies have ruined this game
>>97139265I cast this post for its Overload cost, replacing all instances of "this" in the text with "every".
>TQForests are useless in my deck but I'm running like 9 of them just to make sure I can get my commander out.
>>97139256i apologize. i misread your spoiler said it was a bracket 4 game.i wish my lgs let me play for free.
>My friend telling me he needs to run 8 GCs in his Y'shtola deck because otherwise he doesn't always win
>>97139263yeah dude, thats what the bracket system is forwe get 20
>>97139235If you play this in bracket 2 you pubstomp and it's free wins.If you play this in bracket 3 you're only going to see the front side.
how do I WIN?whats a deck that WINS and does it in a fun way?I want to be a WINNER.ignore image
>>97139325>how do I WIN?Overruns or combo.>whats a deck that WINS and does it in a fun way?Depends exclusively on what you find fun. What do you enjoy playing right now, even if it doesn't win?>I want to be a WINNER.Overruns or combo.>ignore imageIt's funny though.
which way timmy bros
>>97139347Goreclaw if I'm picking one of these.Ruby/Radha if I can pick anything.
>>97139347xenagos if you want to surprise peopleghalta if you like dinosgoreclaw of you don't care for dinosanzrag if you want INFINITE COMBATS
>edh group down to three>lost two bros along the way>today fellow founding member says he has to take a hiatus due to family issuesIt's so over...
>>97139357mana dork in command zone seems kinda tempting but radha seems kinda underwhelmingwouldn't think twice about llanowar elves if it was legendary
If I earthbent the land side of this and it died, would it be played as the front side if removed or does the spell fail to cast and it heads straight to graveyard
>>97139347goreclaw
>>97139362>goreclaw of you don't care for dinosexcept this big boy and of course primal hunger dude
>>97139347i loved goreclaw and i wanted to build Slinza, but theres hardly any beast tribal support. from what i saw. made me sadge.
Buddy of mine went 5-0 in our friend's basement last night.What's a polite way for me to tell him he needs to tone it back because people are getting sick of his shit?
should I be playing roiling regrowth in a deck where I dont even need the landfall triggers? just as normal green ramp?
>>97139396I believe the spell side is the "real face" so when it dies as a land, it flips as it goes to exile or the graveyard and would just stay there. Not fail or cast etc.
>>97139417Do you want him to play bad and lose on purpose? Get good and beat him next time you play you dopey noob
>>97139426>Get goodThis is a social gacha game sir, there is no skill only deep pockets.
>>97139396>307.4. Sorceries can’t enter the battlefield. If a sorcery would enter the battlefield, it remains in its previous zone instead.
>>97139441What cards is he playing that you can't handle?
>>97139452Sorry, you seem to misunderstood me. I didn't ask you for advice on what cards I should buy, I asked you for advice for how to tell my friend to tone it down before he stops getting invited to things.
why do all recent commanders require you to build a deck that's specifically around them, which will stop functioning after it gets removed 2-3 times?
>>97139370>>97139417here's a worse feel. note: I do not use tutors, fast mana, or 2 card infinites>group loses 2, down to me and one other dude>playing in a pick up pod at lgs friday night magic>hell yeah bois>turn 10>my karn ult is online, I can tap any artifact to do 1 damage to anything>devastating onslaught pic rel>laser beam everyone>2nd game -> narset his ruinous ultimatum, then I win>crashes out>DUDE YOU ALWAYS DO THIS. YOU ALWAYS FUCKING WIN GO PLAY CEDH
>>97139468because that's how commander is somewhat meant to be played...
>>97139347I have never had a bad time with XenagosGoreclaw is also awesome
>>97139118
>>97139466Are his decks moneypiles while you're all playing $50 budget jank, or do you all just suck at the game?
talk me out of doing another mono red deck (please)
>>97139468that's literally the only way casuals know how to play.
>>97139506The card draw is insufferably bad if you dislike impulse draw. I love my Imodane deck but my god is it painful to play for longer games
>>97138504That is actual garbage compared to the stuff she used to put out. Look at Perish from Tempest.
>>97139379Radha turn 2, explosive vegetation turn 3, the rest of the deck is 7-drops.Timmies wish they could have a mana curve like this.
>>97139524Her style changed + they don't pay her enough to make something like that for them anymore. She has a ton of other work she gets paid way more for than WotC gives her these days.
>>97139528
>>97139474Have you ever considered sandbagging a bit when you're on a winning streak?
>>97139082Why you doing my boy Viral Drake dirty like that Anon?
>>97138064>TQUgin & Nicol, Gay Lovers
>>97139488>you're all playing $50 budget jank, or do you all just suck at the game?Both, obviously. It's a casual group.
>>97139538Not sure what you're trying to say here. This card slows down any deck whose commander has less than 5 toughness.
>>97139537I understand that. I'm suggesting that the Anon I replied to who said 'She still makes kino when she tries' is wrong and that her style has devolved significantly and/or she has less art directors keeping her from doing degenerate garbage.I pledged for the kickstarter/crowdfunding for "The Present" which was a collection of her more recent artworks and it was not good. Thankfully I was able to switch my copy for a copy of "Evolution" which was a catalogue of her earlier work including some MtG stuff.
>>97139468>Why are there COMMANDER decks where the COMMANDER is the focal point in the COMMANDER format.Go play the stale as fuck homogenized CEDH if you want a deck with no flavor just vomit a win in 3 turns.
>>97139543I miss gay bolas ritual poster
>>97139575>My deck's theme? It's to play all of these staple control and combo pieces in the colors of these two partners of course
>>97139541V was too far in the search for an ADHD brain to comprehend
>>97139593>I see you are running the same flavor as me, I suggest we just call this a draw and shuffle up again
would fixed nadu be fine?
>>97139587He moved on to start writing original fiction in his spare time. I'm rooting for him given the quality of his gay bolas fanfiction eclipsing wotc writing so hard.
>>97139601>Sit down to pod>tell them as we draw that due to eventuality I'll win>they concedeggez
>>97139605Yes, but they won't oracle it or reprint it, so you'll never have it.
>>97139616It's always funny how they oracle cards for Arena, and now we're seeing multiple day 1 oracles for cards that were printed fucking wrong.
imagining all the retarded interactions or just abusing solemn and burnished hart makes me want to build him but i've never had anything with blue what are the wincons for this guy?
Yes, I will play my mox diamond, discarding a land on turn one.Yes, I will run mystic remora, rhystic study and all free counter spells.Yes, my deck is 30% land, 20% fast mana, 45% removal and 5% combo win.Yes, I did bring this deck to a low level pod.Yes, I did find this deck on edhrec and simply copied it.No, you are NOT allowed to scoop, you have to wait for me to get my combo.No, you must watch me go through every step of my combo.
>>97139628Turn 1 plains deafening silence pass.
>>97139506I can't, warping out big things never gets old
so, i'm making a ttrpg and want to learn more about other systems. What do you think are the oddest or most interesting mechanics you've seen on a card?
>>97139614NTA but I swear to god every story I hear about CEDH just makes it sound like the game should just be "draw seven and flip the top card of each deck, okay, looks like Jimmy has the best winning line, gg guys. Shuffle up."
>>97139551Is he playing budget jank too or showing up with $1k+ bracket 4 pseudo-degeneracy?
>>97139650Nothing comes close desu senpai
>>97138064>tqMore saga creatures for my wife Yuna (every set should have more saga creatures)More faeries with flash for my sidepiece Alela
>>97139657Literally, yes. The infamous 11 hour game is proof of this.
>>97139575you're the same type of person that throws a fit when your commander eats removal for the second time in a game and cries about being focused and unable to play
>>97138609Tutors should be bracket 4, no exceptions.
>>97139657It /can/ with some degen hands but because of efficiency and the large card pool combo will always be top in cedh, it's /just/ the fastest most efficient way to win in a 4man pod
>Owlin are owl-people, native to Arcavios. Abigale was born Deaf in an owlin community, and signs as her base form of communication. But many sign languages involve facial expressions as a part of the syntax. How do you do that with someone who is, literally, an owl? Well, Abigale speaks a form of sign that uses feather motions in place of facial expressions–puffed out, slicked back, slightly raised, etc. And yes, I made a mask of construction paper feathers and modeled expressions for myself until I was confident she could make herself understood.
>>97139677Better luck next time chud.
>>97139676>11 hour gameQrd?
>>97139676>>97139693Tournament edh and cEDH are almost entirely separate formats despite everyone running the same decks and meta. cEDH at an LGS is very fun and to the point. TEDH is a bunch of tryhard grinder faggots, most of whom have YouTube channels, politicking, gaslighting and angle shooting each other trying to get draws until they can get to top 4 where they agree to split the prize pool before the final game begins. If tournaments, youtuber faggots and prizes aren't involved, cEDH is great.
>>97139699>what should we name this fantasy race of owl people>owlkin!>sir, people are complaining that we name every fantasy race species-folk or species-kin>okay then, hmmm, owlin
>>97139715Some guy didn't like the fact he was going to lose so he held prio for 11 hours trying to get the table to concede from frustration.
I was bored and simulated the sleeves and holos. There is really no practical reason to do this other than for fun but it turned out nice and I thought I'd share.
>>97138738They’re mentally ill porn sick incel creeps, just avoid playing with them. I kicked a guy out of our regular pod because he used loli sleeves. Take your tranime slop some where else please.
>>97139723Simpler art like this is always nice
>>97139715The cedh influencer golden sabertooth politicked and yapped his way to an 11 hour finals match at a cedh tournament. Towards the end he began begging the other players to give him the win so he could catch his morning flight. The other players were intimidated and awed by golden sabertooth's "celebrity status" because he draws cEDH playmats that are popular, so no one told him to shut the fuck up or call a judge to make him shut up due to his politicking and yapping. The game lasted too long for the YouTube live stream to record the match, so it was lost and has since become the stuff of legend.
>>97139539I sand bag quite a bit, the last time we played, I was playing parnesse (lel) and I copied an opponents rise of the eldrazi, giving HIM an extra turn, draw 4 ONTOP of giving him a a free copy of ulamog the defiler with pic rel. Then the eldrazi player flashed out all is dust, and exiled all ulamogs with a calamity of the titans. Then I said fuck this game, and nuked everyone with prisoner's dilemma 10 times on my turn.
>>97139722The longest term actually was 4 hours of the faggot holding priority yapping and trying to angle shoot, but the game in total lasted 11 hours.
>>97139664A little bit of both.His tactic is cycling through decks that other people don't have enough experience to threat assess, and when he loses he sees that as an excuse to start going up brackets.
>>97139754>His tactic is cycling through decks that other people don't have enough experience to threat assessLike I said originally, get good noob
>>97139699>strixhaven was actually kind of unique and interesting>now it's just slopped up generic bubblegum redditcringeI'm tired
>strixhaven was actually kind of unique and interesting
>>97139759Hey man, it's not my problem if people are getting sick of him. It's his and I just wanted to help him.
>>97139347Kona > Goreclaw > Xenagod > Anzrag > Ghalta >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Slinza
>>97139347xenagos is very hard to remove
>>97139773>i'm the good guy, i'm not just mad I'm losing, i swear i just want to help him, that's why i'm ranting about him on a chinese fishing forum instead of talking to him
>>97139528>>97139357>his deck is limited to rgheh nothin personnel........ uwchud
a lot of players "dont have enough removal" because they just blow it on completely random shit at sorcery speed.
>>97139785>rantingThis is projection
>>97139773Do you want him to sandbag and play badly on purpose just so you and your noob friends can score some pity wins? Will that satisfy you?
>azula player makes 8 copies of blatant thievery on turn 4
>>97139788Susan + War is gimmicky but effective.Susan + Tenth is a great mix of big mana and outlet and has great colours, but I feel like blue just doesn't add enough to make it worth the extra nonbasics. Counterspells are okay but you don't want to cascade into them. Big blue creatures are okay but there aren't any that are amazing enough to justify it.RG is easy to build, easy to play, cheap to put together, and you don't run out of basics to ramp out even when you've got 20 of them on the field already. Adding a third colour just muddies it.
>>97139811there is no world where allowing a player to copy spells above 4cmc is something you can permit. it will always win.
>>97139811Mass Land Denial, cuff him
>>97139811I mean this requires A LOT of setup you guys just fucked up
>>97139816tfw no black doctor and no I don't mean mr zesty
>>97139803so if you're saying you are not ranting by posting here about him, that means you're genuinely socially retarded enough that you can't figure out how to bring it up to him and you're forced to ask for social advice in herefair enough!
>>97139832Would be impressive if he wasn't gay.
>>97139829>>97139825>>97139819oh my bad, it was turn 3>sol ring, signet, senseis>grieves, commander>high tide (x2 LOL), borne upon a wind, jeskas will, seething song, relic of sauron, etc
>>97139832Susan + MissyIf anyone asks, pull up the clip where Missy says she's Doctor Who and say she counts as a time lord doctor. Chances are they don't know the show and you can get away with it.Susan + Missy for a rule 0 night and it was such oppressive bullshit that I didn't even play it. Adding black is generally disgusting in this deck.
>>97139811Why not just kill Azula before she attacks?
>>97139852Many decks spend the first 3 turns or so setting up or ramping. Not everyone is holding up instant speed interaction as soon as the game starts.
>>97139628I scoop. I am allowed.
>>97139860so he drew a god hand while everyone else drew a mediocre one without any interactionshit happens, nothing to cry about
>>97139860What do you mean?If this general is anything to go buy you should always have 5 in hand at any given time
>>97139808>Will that satisfy you?Not about me. It's about them. Most I can think to offer is asking him to be more candid about his field state so that other people aren't ignorant about how his combos interact so they get better at threat assessment because the fact is that I'm not always there to call him out.
>>97139845>>97139811This right here is the perfect card. exiled entire combos off the stack just to draw and pass, or turn the game around and win.
>>97139835>that means you're genuinely socially retarded enough that you can't figure out how to bring it up to him and you're forced to ask for social advice in hereYes? That's why I asked.
>>97139845>senseisNo bigger sign someone's a pubstomping faggot. It's not the strongest card in a whole lot of strategies but it just screams "I will do anything to win in a casual game, and I will do it extremely slowly because I don't actually understand the game"
remove anyone playing game changers from the premises
>>97139860These pods are so shitty. Players SHOULD hold interaction in the early stages and not just hard mull for signet sol ring.
Remove anyone playing anything UB, any Secret Lairs, and anything Reserved List from the premises
My Teshar deck can win on turn 1
>>97139777Can you explain why Kona is at the top? Kona seems very unappealing to me as a Xenagos and Goreclaw player, what am I missing?
>>97139873So you want him to tell your friends what he's about to do and how to beat him? That's even more pathetic than expecting him to sandbag. You should instead teach your friends who suck at the game how to get good so they stop being bad.
>>97139896He's a newfag that probably started with duskmourn
>Duskmourn was over a year agoJesus Christ what is happening to time...
>>97139860>Many decks spend the first 3 turns or so setting up or rampingThose decks are bad. If you all play like that it's your own fucking fault for dying to Azula jank. All you have to do is save removal and kill Azula as soon as it enters the battlefield.
>>97139053I built her as a fair Stun counter deck. Unfortunately there just aren't a lot of good instant/sorcery stun spells. She does fine but you will have to rely on proliferation and infect if you want to be a viable threat.
>>97139898>That's even more pathetic than expecting him to sandbag.I don't think it is.Honestly that's what I do when I play with them. That's part of the reason they're complaining to me about him in the first place, cause I openly tell them when they're making bad plays even when it's not in my favor.
>>97139907sorry not quite, deflecting swat isn't a game changer (and therefor is a free include because proxies are based, or something ig)
you know azula kinda just looks like bpd narset in black...
>>97139919So you give them advice, tell them what to do, they ignore your advice and lose, then whine to you about it behind your chad winner friend's back? Your friend group seems retarded bro, no offense
>>97139896how do you like goreclaw compared to xenagos? I imagine goreclaw is more explosive since you can dump more creatures quickly while xenagos is bit better for long game as he's always gonna stay around?
>>97139920>deflecting swat isn't a game changerIts not?Damn. Been a bit since I've checked.
Would CEDH be made better or worse if they banned partners and throacle?
>>97139923More like autistic. I recently revamped my azula deck after watching and the volleyball scene, as well as the flirting scene made me cringe in the good way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lv2cqH-Vcw>>97138606
>>97139930Goreclaw is a ramp piece that goes in Xenagod. Xenagod is a fucking catapult that slings bombs and topdecks at your opponents face he's so much fun.
>>97139896Kona bounces back better than Goreclaw does to removal basically. Goreclaw dies and you're spending 6 mana to get your discount bear back on the board with limited mana to take advantage of that discount in the same turn. As long as you control a vehicle Kona can plop out something from your hand the same turn it comes out with no further investment even if you're spending all your mana to get it back on the board. I like Goreclaw quite a bit and it can definitely has more potential for explosive turns, I just think Kona's stronger.
>>97139929>So you give them advice, tell them what to do, they ignore your advice and loseI'm not always around to help them them. I don't want this to be a situation where they can't get along if I'm not in the room.
>>97139907>All you have to do is save removal and kill Azula as soon as it enters the battlefieldEvery commander is like this now.
>>97139940no autistic is what the made the DTK narset (back when she was in early 20s) in Ikoria to appease the rainbows alongside giving her +20 years of age for no fucking reason
>>97139938i wonder if wotc will ever do conditional bansi'd be perfectly fine with thoracle being banned in non-mono blue decks
>>97139938better, but partners aren't a particular problem because people would just choose the next available generic color access that might just coincidentally have its own compact wincons. but even still, thoracle is hardly necessary, the cases where you get a deck victory with labman you probably have infinite mana and a full hand, meaning no one's going to be able to actually capitalize on what makes labman inferior to thoracle. the problem is blue is too good with its density on the stack with flash enablers and overly flexible removal options even on landed permanents thanks to fucking floodmaw, otawara, vapors, or cyc rift.
>>97138064> artist: 'm ARRYYANwhy did they mean by this
are non miirym/ur-dragon dragon decks based or cringe?
>>97139930They're both fun in different ways. I think the way I would word it is that they are both explosive and they are both good for a long game in different ways.Goreclaw you get creatures out faster, absolutely, but because she gives trample she's still incredibly relevant in the late game. Also the discount is always good, though it's definitely more significant early.Xenagos absolutely takes a little more effort to get started but he's incredibly sticky and the access to Red means he has a more diverse range of threats. Once you get up and running you can send something extremely threatening towards someone every turn. For him, the haste gives explosiveness. You can go from having no creatures on the board(but having Xenagos) to sending a 40/40 towards a player instantly. It's very scary to be on the receiving end of that.They're both great decks, but I'm biased towards Xenagos because its my oldest commander deck and a card that I pulled from a pack myself, I've always had fun with it. I built Goreclaw because I think mono color is extremely underrated and underplayed in general. It's satisfying to take down 3+ color piles with only a single color. Goreclaw is awesome
>>97139977they all just become scourge of valkas piles anyways
>I swing with my massive board>I play comeuppance, killing your entire board>I do not accept your cringe UBslop card and accept victory.This actually happened.
It’s done. All avatar spells because I love avatar. If it does well in bracket two I’ll buy three ATLA game changers for it and fuck you all uphttps://archidekt.com/decks/17729398/avatar_aang_bending_allies
Commanders for this feel?
so did bracket 4 just become cEDH for poor people? when people claim their deck is bracket 4, recently it's always stax or autopilot combo decks
>>97139977>>97139985If you aren't running an Elder Dragon as your commander, it's not a real Dragon deck.I have scourge and terror of the peaks but all my wins come from combat damage. https://moxfield.com/decks/5TQkjadeZ0-4AHD2_Vq1aA
>>97140009In my store bracket 4 is just bracket 3 with more gamechangers. If you play like a jerk or take a turn longer than a minute people roll their eyes
Man, the MTG community is going to be so fucking insufferable in the first half of 2026. Genuinely dreading it.
>>97140009Most combo decks aren't autopilot other than Godo. You're just bad at the game. Combo is a fundamental aspect of Magic the Gathering, as conceived by Dr. Richard Garfield, PHD
>>97140016Why tho?
>>97140009Bracket 4 is EDH pre-brackets. That's all it is
>>97140009bracket 4 is the bracket for people who are too stupid to decide which gamechangers to cut from their netdeck.
>>97140009In any game with any competitive anything, the bracket just below "competitive" is full of the biggest bitches and dumbest gorilla retards that you will ever see playing that game. Diamond in League, MG in Counterstrike, fucking 2k elo in chess somehow. All of them full of just total fucking retards
>>97140020Unapproved UB.>Looking on social media shit>WOTC posts a cool Doctor Doom image>100 replies of people shitposting and going absolutely insane and into a melty about itSame will happen for turtles. You won't be able to discuss the set or anything and it'll just be a retarded circle jerk between the online community.Personally, I enjoy discussing new sets.
Any better budget ability counters?
Why are artifacts allowed to be so consistently good.
>>97140062Because they are so easily removed.
>>97140067mono black bros our response?
>>97140062there's so many of them and they have so many synergies with each other you don't really need to have an idea what you're doing and it works outi'm saying this as an artifact enjoyer
>>97140038Turtles is shaping up to be a shitsplatter exactly like Spiderman was and Spiderman was getting universally dogged online even in the usual hugboxes. It has so much in common with Spiderman I can't see it getting warm reception.
>>97140082>Turtles is shaping up to be a shitsplatter exactly like Spiderman wasNo shit anon, it's unapproved UB?
>>97140068Play a real color.
>>97140082The only current similarity is both having characters located in NYC. No clue what you are even on about.
>>97140038The online turtles Fandom community is nowhere big as boomers seem to think it is. This ain't 1993 anymore, grandpas.
I wish we got a Cradle set instead of Avatar ngl
>>97140094/edhg/ is so hilariously out of touch sometimes
>>97140085this phrase doesn't make as much sense as you seem to think it does.
>>97140095I want UB Harry Potter, to both outsell FF and break the troons brains who WotC has been so desperately courting.
>>97140100I am sorry you are retarded. Shall I give you a quenchy cloud card?
>>97140102I will buy every luna lovegood if they do
>>97140092Collector numbers indicate it's a small set like Spiderman was.
>>97140099Turtles fans are hilariously out of touch. You're old and TMNT will undersell even Spooder-man, the set /edhg assured me would outsell FF. Capeslop is dead and so are boomer mutant pizza turdles.
>>97140102Harry Potter isn't very relevant. Far less than cape shit.
>why are they not catering to me?!?!?! I DO NOT APPROVE, UNAPPROVED!Yeah, this guy was right, its going to be insufferable.>>97140038
>>97140114Hogwarts Legacy made a billion dollars, kid.
>>97140038Based, I hope the discontent grows. Every UB set should be met with discontent
>>97140120Unfortunately this isn't how it works since avatar and FF are more beloved than any in universe set of the past 5 years.
>>97140118Tell me more about the third film in Fantastic beasts, anon
how's mono red control looking in 2025?
>played all my new decks>no new decks left unplayed>my main decks are too strong for everyone else's test decks
>>97140144I played against a jaws deck last week, very strong
>Introducing new player into the pod>Playing a slightly modified precon to give him a chance>Third guy in my pod is doing the same>Fourth guy has no weaker deck to power down to and just stomps us most games>He starts talking about a new deck he ordered and posts list>It's another strong deck that's gonna stomp the powered down podDo I just give up and go back to my usual shit? Getting a bit tired of playing with the kid gloves and letting this faggot run us over every game, he clearly has no intention of stopping.
>>97140182Play a reactive control deck. Police him down if he's out of control, make sure everyone has a chance to win the game, then use big stompy threats to close out the game.
>>97140085What's an unapproved ub
>>97140201spiderman, marvel, tmnt
recommend me some janky decks / commandersas soon as i start playing normal combo / aggro decks that just want to win asap my autism makes me too competitive for my own good
>>97140053mirrorshell crab..my beloved..
>>97140182Tell him his decks are too strong for the current table dynamics and offer him one of your decks.
>>97140201>I don't like this!That.They're trying to "take back the game" then not buying any UW sets.
>>97140212
>>97140233I'm not spending a red cent on unapproved UB sets and I'm not spending a red cent on unapproved UW sets either.
>>97140244You have no power but whether or not you whine online and effect nothing.
>>97140244So you're gonna proxy.
>set full of mutants>new artifact counter that gives 1/1 counters to creaturesit's like they read my mind
>>97140250I'm saving the game and you can't accept that.>>97140255Proxy approved UW versions of unapproved UB cards, yes.
>>97140262And how much money are you spending on these proxies?
>>97140270Couple cents per card.MPC, not zheng.
>>97140246Tabletop RPGs will always be bad and unnecessary after the invention of the personal computer
>>97138654It's not stuck though isn't it? I thought it was said it was getting a Universe Within printing. That it was said it would be getting one before the secret lair was even up for sale.
Hold the fuck up.Humans on Innistrad have skeletons inside of them?Isn't this kind of a big deal? What are the lore implications?
>>97140210good thing you won't mind me sacrificing doctor who cyberman squadron to my megatron so i can deal 7 damage with trample to your creature
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>>97140158Just keep replaying the new weaker decks anon. I only have 10 when the average of my playgroup is 23>2 unaltered precons>3 B3 decks: Noyan-Dar Azorious Voltron, Sauron Grixis Wheels and Shelob Golgari Spiders>3 B4 decks: Vivi, Purphoros Goblins and Edric Simic Weenies>2 CEDH decks to use with work colleagues
when people get mad at combo decks, what do they mean by combo exactly? doing infinite of something specifically?or would winning by plopping toralf and one shotting people with blasphemous act count as combo and make people angry already
>>97140337Combo is any wincon that relies on card synergies for a sudden radical shift of gamestate.
>>97140336>Edric Simic WeeniesHey hey, this is one of my main decks too.
>Preorder cards>Get pringlesThis makes me sad.
>>97140340by that logic you can't play yargle and multani with xenagos as you now have a 36 power creature out of nowhere with 2 cards
>>97140337>>97140340Specifically, people are usually upset by hand combos.Most people don't get upset at craterhoof or moonshaker in the same way they get upset about combo, because the pieces were visibly on the board and they had a chance to interact.When someone plays two cards from hand and says everyone takes infinite damage and they win, it feels a bit anticlimactic.There's also a knowledge component. Winning through combat damage is clear and obvious. I can see Ghalta about to take a bite out of my life bar. When someone plays an untapper artifact and ramps a bit with it, and then a few turns later they go infinite with it, the loss came not from a lack of board awareness or threat assessment, but from an interaction between two specific cards the player just didn't know about.A lot of decks just aren't equipped to handle combo wins, and combo wins are the most effective way to win so it's generally considered a high-power archetype which also makes it unwanted at lower power tables, even if it's a low powered combo deck.
>Scryfall is currently offline for maintenance.
>>97140385I feel like I would enjoy commander more if they made changes to infinite combos. Something like the number of times two cards can cycle in a combo cant be more than 2+ the number of cards involved (not including mana resources). But that just overly complicates shit.
r8 my azula deck
>>97140442I couldnt care less and kys /10
>>97140385so maybe to make it simpler for my monkey brain, would something like toralf + blasphemous act, or mono B ayara + plague of vermin trigger most people or not? both require right setup (enough creatures or having most life) but are just two cards you can play from hand and win on the spot if no one has answeri'm asking genuinely because coming from other TCGs this sort of explosive decks (I wouldn't hesitate to call it combo in other games) are what I enjoy the most over more aggro / control decks, but if that counts as a no-no, then i'd rather play something else
>>97140448:(
>>97140442generic waifu fotm deck/10
>>97140134That was 10 years ago, grandpa but I will tell you more. WB figured out Fantastic beasts merch didn't sell but hogwarts related merch was consistently massive sellers. HP fans want a hogwarts school setting and when they get it they spend billions, like they did on Hogwarts Legacy.
>>97140297Whats up with the P/T sign?
>>97140337Any two cards that make them lose is oppressive cEDH sweat combos and need to be banned- according to anti combo fags.
>>97140479scryfall fucking up? It's fine on tcgplayer
Why is this general so out of touch?
>>97140261jenovachads we're finally eating good
This card kind of sucks...
>>97140490This general thought capeshit Spooder-man would outsell FF
>>97140531I didn't
>>97140531Literally no one said that.
>>97138654Why? It's a great movie. Also it's a fucking shark. Not a flying shark. Not a mecha shark. Just a fuckin shark.They also already confirmed they are doing a UW version of it, which is why WPN stores didn't get any of the JAWS lair to sell or anything
>>97140531This never happened, btw
Kraven pillowfort/politics?
>>97140490Jaded cynical fucks who only exist in echo chamber are out of touch?!You're joshing.
>>97140531actually exceptional (you) bait. well done, anon
>>97140452Entirely depends on the playgroup. If it's a group that doesn't like combo wins, you can soften the blow by babying them a little bit. Give them a heads up if a card can combo to kill the table immediately, even if you don't necessarily have that card in hand. Don't play two cards that can win you the game on the spot if it's not something they could reasonably interact with (ie give them a turn cycle at least). If you can win the game on your next turn, let them know. Yes, this makes the game harder for you, but that's only because you're giving players meta knowledge that they might not have. Knowledge that a more advanced player would be expected to have. And honestly, it feels better to win because you played well, more than because your opponents just played poorly.If you ignore everything else, just understand this:Commander is the casual format for retard babies.You should be playing to have fun, not playing to win. Yes, winning is fun, but sometimes you need to be the bigger man and accept responsibility for other people's fun too. If you know you can win the game with a card in your hand and it's unlikely anyone at the table could deal with it, choosing not to play that card and letting everyone else duke it out while you sit back knowing you could have won is, genuinely, an option. Sometimes it's better to just give the other guys a win once in a while to give them an ego boost.
>>97140531It also thinks cape shit is unpopular while Super Man gets "most popular film of the year" award on IMDB and Dispatch has 50 /v/ threads for a month
>>97140543>kravencringe>pillowfortdoubly cringe>politicsthis has some potential i guess
>>97140555kraven is cute, he plays like what I was hoping cheville would play like
>>97140560ummm he isn't approved UB like Sparky Boom Sokka fanatic man. Incorrect scrimblo brimblo found.
>>97140552People like capeshit they dont like bad/boring movies. Its like saying people dont like star wars, they love star wars but they keep making shit movies.
>>97140563damn it....
>UnapprovedThis is twitter bullshit from boomer and zoomers who think likes can change the world
>>97140569Agreed anon. However, this thread very much insisted capeshit was dead and unpopular and the spidey set proved it. They would then point to marvel films making a gorillion instead of norillion dollars.
>>97140579>TwitterYou know it changed its name like 3 years ago? Not doing yourself any favors on the out of touch accusations
>>97140543I don't think Kraven and pillowfort really feel right together. Feels like you should be aggressive and tearing through boards and taking people out with him which contrasts badly with how completely faggy pillowfort is.
>>97140589Just say "yes" next time. Zoom-zoom.
>>97140600Zoomers are like late 20's btw. Further shwoing you're out of touch because you think they're young when many are like 4 years out of their PHD program
>>97140606This is gonna be just like how boomers were calling high schoolers millenials, when millenials are in their 30s/40s
what black and colorless cards give my opponents creatures?I got slaughter specialist and the akroan horse already
>>97140563Here I've made an american take on chinese fantasy UB version of kraven to match the american take on chinese fantasy theme of avatar
>>97140647
>>97140651I just soi'd hard. He looks like a generic monk omg it is SO magic
>>97140647this pisses people off. tempt with immortality as well. exhume. also plague reaver is a funny gift card, I have it in my squall deck.
>>97140659Sadly not popular enough to have a lot of good fanart to choose from.
>>97140647otag:donate-token on scryfall
>>97140673I'll go to Scryfall to look that up right now!Oh...
>>97140683Man, who enjoys making these types of depressing images?
>>97140683haha yeah it was dying as I was trying to look it up on tagger
>>97140683for me it's clackbridge troll
>trying to make a discard deck >Keep getting pulled into shit older cards for some reasons
>>97140689he cute :)
>>97140689I hate these fuckin millennial writing flavor text
>>97140661Combos with Phage
>>97140569The comics, Disney+ shows and movies have both been flopping for several years now. Rivals is the only capeslop people still like, because it's a fun game with big tiddy caked up waifus.
>>97140569>they love star wars but they keep making shit movies.Star wars is completely dead at this point. Disney killed all interest in it and made it lame and gay slop for 40 year old wine aunties. Obi Wan, Asohka, Skeleton Crew and the Acolyte were the death knell that completely murdered the IP after Last Jedi drove away 50% of the fanbase (no one watched Andor, it doesn't matter how good it allegedly is). Game companies are now openly calling Star wars a "toxic IP" in public meetings now. Disney killed Star Wars just like they killed capeslop.
>>97140722lmao
>>97140722Theres more capeshit than disney slop. Yes Disney shit sucks, but Disney sucks in general. But people been liking Dispatch, Spiderverse, Batman (the lego game coming up is pretty hyped), the Superman movie was pretty good recently.
>>97140742>90k reviews, overwhelming positive, not even two months oldCape shit lovers...YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED
>>97140736I mean I agree, but make a good movie and it will turn around pretty quick. People still love the lore and universe. I dont think Disney is capable of that.
>>97140689my favorite meme cards in my discard deck are hypnotic spectre (t1 dark rit + spectre) makes the table seethe at random discard, and CAO CAO, LORD OF WEI in chinese. I actually almost got banned from my lgs because I would explained the card in chinese accent.
>>97140742This film was a massive financial flop for WB (one of the main reasons they're being sold off to netflix or paramount now) and peacemaker season 2 flopped in the ratings. C a pedophile fans cope so hard everytime you tell them the truth. Do you still think funkopops are cool?
>need to cut 25 cards for my edea deck>fuck I need to add seifer and co>up to 132 cards
>>97140743Joker 2 is one of the biggest moneylosing flops of all time. Spider-verse didn't make that much. Capeshit is dead. No one cares about Dispatch.
>>97140563Naw Kraven is approved UB. The rest of spiderman is not
>>97140746Not muh positive reviewerinos!
>>97140774false
>>97140508Jenova is so underrated
>>97140769ok bro lets just ignore the constant capeshit content and the millions it makes lmao. >>97140761>WB is selling their catalogYeah for anywhere from 80 to 110 BILLION dollars. Dont get me wrong I havent seen capeshit since Avengers, but I hear about it constantly, see it constantly and I wish I didn't.
>>97140508>>97140261you can't use turtle cards
>>97140789Captain America Brave New World and Fantastic Four had tens of thousands of shilled positive reviews too
>>97140792Elaborate
>get Ouroboroid out for 2 turns, my board is starting to get chunky as fuck>but still no evasion and my opponents are also building up their boards>opponent wraths>cast pic related >everyone else scoopsKino
>>97140811>OKAnime boy with sword. Anime boy with wind powers>NOT OKTurtles with swordsHumans that shoot websThe difference could save your life
>>97140820>OKAnime waifus with big tiddiesAnimu waifus with cute tiddies and personalities>NOT OKBadly designed capesloppaBoomer turtle IP that was popular 40 years ago
>>97140820>Turtles with swordsis a Turtle with a staff ok?
>>97140883It breaks the color pie, so no.
>find a fun looking commander>brew intensely for a week or two>switch out all overpriced cards until I reach a comfortable budget level>fine tune it while goldfishing for a hundred times>conclude that it's a stupid timmy deck that needs too many hail maries to go off at a reasonable time>bring it to test it with friends>"yeah, if you hinder me from doing X, it's basically over for me">nobody ever has it to hinder me from doing X>completely devastate the table>back to the drawing board>find a fun looking commander
>>97140261>mutants were turned into a viable, playable tribe in the course of a year>meanwhile, skeletons got a non-legendary skeleton lord and a legendary that creates a token when it dies
>>97140958Too bad mutate is still a shit mechanic
>>97140958You already have a legendary dragon that FUCKS human woman in acts sanctioned by WotC
>>97140965that's another joke layered on top
>>97140958Some days you just need to accept that your favorite tribe is dog shit.One day they'll just get "ashino'd into being zombies
>>97140978>One day they'll just get "ashino'd into being zombiesreal body horror shit
>>97140978Not that anon but don’t remind me. At this point I’ve accepted that Golgari Spiders will always be shit
>>97140993shelob may pigeonhole the tribe a lot, but its not bad.
>>97141023shelob definitely is a lot of funnothing like pulling out silklash spider against a dragon player and watching the realization dawn
I'm gonna finally getting around to building the Terra Summon: tribal deck, consisting of only FF cardsI'm slopping
>>97140876We didn't get that so, uh...
>>97140876>boomer avatar that is even less popular than turtles is good thoughexplain? Avatar has less relevancy than Turtles. There've been like 4 turtle movies since the last Avatar episode aired. Less video games in that time, too. And toys. And comics
>>97141042Based
>>97140958Gut is the skeleton commander. Stop whining you get no skeleton support
>>97140958Because they have no unique feature to them outside of being called skeletons. There is nothing unique about them.
>>97141075Avatar was a massive streaming hit on netflix during covid lock down to the point nickelodeon opened an entire avatar animation studio. It's more relevant than boomer turtles
>>97141107It really isn't, dude. I don't know what to tell you. Avatar has had no relevancy and Turtles have had successful products in stores, theaters, and TV all that time avatar was gone.You are really out of touch.
>>97141103all skeletons need to be errata'd to have menace and more power, as well as a downside that their damage cannot cause you to gain life. >>97141100gut and skeleton cards don't synergize. can't even use haunted one because gut is a goblin.
>>97141042Unfathomably based
>>97141110>>97141107id say tmnt definitely has more of presence in pop culture, but ATLA is very highly beloved even after a shit sequel and 2 shit attempts at live action.
>>97141163>gut and skeleton cards don't synergizeHow on earth could the character that sacrifices creatures to create big skeletons with menace possibly synergize with the tribe that specializes at returning from the graveyard?Are you a fucking ass? Do you need a creature to say "TRIBE GET +1/+1 AND DRAW A CARD WHEN TRIBE ENTERS" for you to see the synergy? Stick to precons, retard. You're somehow the first edh player to be too stupid to play tribal slop of all things. Build a landfall deck or something.
>>97140958Skeletons have a meme standard aggro deck that's the best you get, take it or leave it.
We'll get a skeleton commander when the SNL lair comes out with David S Pumpkins
>>97138889I just think it's funny this little guy can go recruit a gargantuan fortified city wall to go fight
>>97141235Okay yeah you're right, then. I'll agree.
>>97141192Meds
>>97141110For boomers, 40 years ago
>>97141248TMNT has had a resurgence in the last 5ish years
>>97141163>gut and skeleton cards don't synergize. can't even use haunted one because gut is a goblin.>MUH SKELETONS!He sacrifices skeletons to make more skeletons then you recur the skeletons you big brained pseudtard.
>>97141252Why do you think this? Last Ronin movie just got canceled.
https://moxfield.com/decks/-qyjxOjzm0ObMsMHMqyp3gtoo many edicts?
>>97141261Mutant Mayhem was a huge hit and was so within the right timeframe (2023) when WOTC was putting out feelers for UB stuff. And Tales of the TMNT is extremely well-received even though its on the most dogshit streaming platform of Paramount+
>>97140958Skeletons specialize in leaving the graveyard, either to hand or directly to the battlefield. The overwhelming majority of them are in black. However, there are some good pieces for them in red and green too. The following commanders could all work pretty well as Skeleton commanders:>Syr Konrad>Grist, Voracious Larva>Kotis, Sibsig Champion>Teval, the Balanced Scale>Celes, Rune Knight>Amzu, Swarm's Hunger>Gut // Agent of the Iron Throne>Gut // Cultist of the Absolute>Gut // Scion of HalasterI hope this helps, anon. I know you can make a fun deck with one of these. Don't give up, skeleton!
>>97139278Based cast
>>97141275thanks, chatgpt.
What are some of the best drain spells in the game?
>>97141274>Mutant Mayhem was a huge hitNo it wasn't.>+1Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem' gets an A on ...Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem grossed approximately $181.9 million worldwide
>>97141255gut doesn't want skeletons to sac, she wants tokens and artifacts
>>97141335It only cost $70 million to make dumbass, thats like a good marvel movie percentage return
>>97141353$110 profit worldwide is by no means a massive hit. And $70 million production costs don't include marketing. It was a modest success at best.
>>97141376Not 70m production, 70m total
>>97141378$110 million profit is still a relativw nothing burger, not a massive hit like you're trying to spin it. A massive hit is Lilo and Stitch making a billion, or James Cameron's Avatar slips making two billi
>>97141378>Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem had a production budget of approximately $70 million, with marketing (Prints & Advertising) costs estimated at around the same amount, totaling roughly $140 million in combined expenses before accounting for overhead or distribution, making it a relatively modest-budget animated film that proved profitable due to strong merchandising and streaming revenue. It only made $40 million dollars lol
Oh my god who cares
>>97141426the last post in this thread was about drain spells
how about you drain my balls
>>97141447gottem lmao
>>97141432>>97141317Isn't exsanguinate like THE drain card.
>>97141455I like the idea that the gitrog monster just outright eats the other player when I cast this.
>>97141455And this one. Both are pretty much the best in the game
>TQSomething like Mitotic Ultimus from arena, but Dimir. Make it a Toxrill variant and make the -1/-1s get distributed during combat.
>>97141455>>97141466Drain spells must be the lamest win condition there is. Last game some guy played only ramp spells and no blockers. He got punched repeatedly in the face and had to use exsanguinate for a low amount so he wouldn't die. When he lost he explained to us like we were idiots how he normally wins with drain spells. But he got attacked unwarrantedly and that ruined his genius plan.
>>97141498This didn't happen btw
Why isint this card more popular?
>>97141505it sucks
>>97138064>What would be the ideal card they could print for YOUR deck(s) in ECL?What kind of question is that? They are not supposed to print cards for your decks. They should print cards that are interesting and make you think, where you have to make them work. Do you people actually enjoy these brain-dead value cards that are tailored for specific decks? You really want yet another landfall staple card in gruul? You want yet another goblin or elf lord?
>>97141505Does anyone actually like impulse draw? I think it fucking blows. If you want/need the card right now it's great but if you'd rather play it 2-3 turns from now? Guess what fucker that card is GONE
>>97141522>They are not supposed to print cards for your decks.False
>>97141528I agree anon but you picked the one impulse draw card that doesn't actually do that to raise the point.
>>97141541Yeah you're right, I'm just mad at impulse draw in general due to it making monored decks fucking ASS to play. Blue and black have alllll this easy ass card draw and red is over here just suffering
>>97141528Sometimes you take what you get. And in red, impulse draw is pretty mana efficient.
>>97140817riveting game play anon!wish i had a bracket 2 deck to play on your pod but sadly can't relate.
>>97141505Costs too much for big red stompy. It's passable in my jund power doublers deck
>>97140695im sure your zoom zoom brain would come with something better.
>>97141557Why would you admit to being too dumb to know how to make a bracket 2 deck?
>>97141570esl anon, I...
>>97141572I know you think the implication is that you're too smart or whatever to make a bracket 2 deck, but it's not implied any more than being too dumb is implied.
>>97141569I cannot remember the card, but there's a fucking Marvel-tier quip on one and it's exactly as cringey as you think it is
I might make this bitch, the entire Simic face down package of cards is dirt cheap outside of exactly Abhorrent Oculus and can be assembled for almost nothing.
>>97141583Me too just as soon as wotc lets me play yorion in ug
>>97141579there are dozens of stupid quippy flavor texts on sets which predate millennials being able to have written them no less. werebear is a classic, squee goblin nabob is another
>>97141587Nah fuck off this is great
>>97141587I enjoy the occasional one or two. It does get exhausting when they do it all the time.
>>97141590its the exact sort of shit you derided, you just like that particular one. most printings of spell piece have one too
>>97141593*spell pierce
These kinds of flavor texts are the fucking worst and it's not even close. Oh woooow look how cool and smart and badass they are oh wow oh geez oh gosh so cool
>>97141605
Fuck bad text, everyone post your favorites. I've loved this one since I was a kid
>>97141610
>>97141608Okay but you have to admit this is funny as hell. It'd be a great Monty Python skit
>>97141612Oh man there's a ...blue creature? Or something I can't remember where the text is something like "I cannot be saved but you can, so I'll say hello to your dead wife, and you say hello to my surviving wife". It's on the fucking Mt Rushmore of flavor texts for me
>>97141619Found it. Good shit, man
>>97141610This card sucks ass but the flavor text has been one of my favorites since I started playing
>>97141569This is equally as bad as the other
>>97141631Haha that and this card are some of the cornerstones of my Saskia Ball Lightning tribal deck. Bringing Putrefax back over and over is mad fun
>>97141610Tie between this and Seb Mckinnon Damnation "All deeds once committed, now repaid in kind"
>>97141619>>97141622https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHUGPFJJdDY Ah, I got confused by this incredible line from a movie I just watched
>>97141640This art is sick. I should toss this in my zombie deck.
>>97141587The real example is this one
>>97141646It has some VERY good arts
>>97138120Sorry, best you'll get is Thunder Junction Gisa
>>97141663She's the exact one I'm always so mad about. I understand why *she* creates zombies, but using a different character that creates skeletons would've been the perfect commander. Even if it was something stupidly precise like "whenever you use an instant/sorcery to destroy a creature" I still would've loved it completely
oh my god skelebros I didn't know it was this grim, this is way worse than I was expecting. 5 cards, EVER, that even mention skeletons??
>>97141678tfw never gonna be able to rattle 'em, boys
>>97141678you are better off just making a zombie deck and then getting alt skeleton art proxies of the cards. And then pretend you are playing skeletons
>>97141686fucks sake no kidding. this has to be the worst old/OG tribe support in the game, yeah?
>>97141678>four of these came out within the past 3 years>Skeleton Ship only mentions Skeleton because it's in the name
>>97141648There's a meme test card mocking this, isn't there?
>>97141690I noticed. legitimately thought they were exaggerating this whole time but things are so much worse than I imagined
>>97139161I don't know. I'm still trying to reach that point myself. There's still some decks I feel the need to fix. I don't know if I'll ever reach it. I think the building a deck portion is my favorite part of this game and I don't what to do once I reach a critical mass of decks. May just start scrapping old ones more and more.
>>97139347Between these six? I'd go with Xenagos. Every time I get him on board he makes himself known and more than pulls his weight.
>people scared to swing on an open boardwhy is everyone so pussywhipped
>>97141751because its a 3v1 so swinging with any non-vigilance creature leaves you open to potentially triple the retributive damage
>>97139506Can't. I've been stuck in a similar boat myself. Already have two and I've been itching to play something that cares about playing from exile and mono red seems the best option.
>>97139623I don't know anon but good luck. This guy just seems built for some really variable game plans.
>>97139161just keep playing the game and upgrade/sidegrade the decks occasionally when we get new sets
>>97139880I feel like this is the kind of thing that gets accused of kingmaking a lot. Unless you have a way around the losing the game thing or can combo off yourself on your turn. Or at least in the group I'm usually in I think they would.
>>97140978You know, I wouldn't be surprised if they do that one of these days. Unless I'm misreading things it looks like the most recent new skeleton was Ozox which is pushing it nearly two years ago so it's clear they just don't give a shit about the tribe. Only issue is that this could have ripple effects making the few decent skeleton cards like Skeletal Swarming almost too much of a boost to zombies.
>>97141806There was pure skeleton tribal support printed as recently as LCI
Which set will cause more meltdowns? TMNT or Marvel?
>>97141862marvel. easily.
>>97141862I imagine Turtles will be fine if they have the sense to print it as a smaller set like Assassin's Creed was instead of trying to stretch a smaller set into a full sized one like they did Spider-Man. Marvel is looking to be their big time set and I imagine will get the biggest push imaginable.
>>97141832nta but this thing and skeleton crew gave me hope.
>>97141862Marvel because Spider Man association
>looked through all my black cards>looked through all my green cards>looked through all of my multicolored cardshe's vanished, the fuck did liliana do this time?
>>97141892>>97141832These are both great and more of what I want to see, but until there are grip of actually playable skeletons printing tribal support for them doesn't do a lot to make it viable. Both of those do more work to make themselves a viable token engine than they do helping make the skeletons that exist any more playable.
>>97141505does nothing on the turn playeddoes nothing on the turn removal was played priorwild wasteland is better
>>97141892Just make this guy legendary. A sub theme tribe of skeleton pirates would have been cool.
>>97141973every thread until it becomes real
>>97141993Honestly it's coming to the point where I'd be willing to have the rule zero talk to try and get one of these guys as a commander. Looking at the sets coming for this year and all the sets we've gotten over the last couple years I just don't see the next time we'll get a skeleton commander. Well, unless Ghost Rider somehow ends up a skeleton commander.
>>97142022here you go pretend it's a real card
>>97141862Marvel because it's going to be 10x more pushed and likely sell 10x more too. I wouldn't be surprised if Marvel outputs a Modern or even a Legacy deck.
>>97142062I had to look this up to see if it was real
>the nu-lorwyn story is a gay allegoryit has not been this over since nu-tarkir
>>97142099lorwyn was always gae fae bullshit, they are just wearing it on the sleeve this time around
>>97142058>get banned from LGS>friends kick me out of their group>anti-proxyfag calls me a poorfagtoo many negatives
>>97139126he did Lulu?
>>97142099>AllegoryThe story is about Bolas announcing he's in a relationship with Ugin.
>>97142062>I wouldn't be surprised if Marvel outputs a Modern or even a Legacy deckIm not saying itll be its own deck but Delver is 1,000% getting a 1 drop aggro creature thats going to finally replace delver of secrets for the 5th time
>>97140817>literally a completely atandard play with the added flavour of noobs being too afraid to attack>brooooo kino what a play omgI hate tourists so much.
>>97141757And yet if youre a good player there is almost always an attack to do.
>>97142102Not even close anon youre just a zoomer and have come to accept a world of shit to the point that you're here defending it now lmao
>>97141969It gives you a card the turn played ..
>>97142103>What is rule 0Don't be a cry baby bitch and use your mouth for more than sucking dick.
>>97142747>hey guys can I do this?>no>okayEpic rule 0 conversation
Why is it that when I search the catalog for "edh" the mtg thread also pops up? They are kinda asking for a misspost.
>>97142809They actually love talking about edh, you should go post over there and ask them about it
I will get a card of Dr.Doom and that's it
>just one drop of sloppa, please
>>97142833Do we already have spoilers
>>97142849I think we get them thursday
>>97142842This is magic now
>>97142928Unapproved. Not magic.
>>97142928It's been this way since Battle for Zendikar
>>97138780>>97138813>>97138828>>97138829>>97139105>>97138926>>97138982Yet another post about proxyfags having no restraint, yawn>noooo me and my group are different! We didnu nuthin!As much as (You) would like to frame this as a *proxies dont ruin pods, assholes do* issue, the point is that the kinds of people that get drawn to proxies are more often than not the kind of idiot that doesnt even know how their deck works, has no concept of delayed gratification and just wants an easy way to win, and basically undermines every argument that you dont need staples to have fun in edh; why tolerate that, why run the risk? wise people know better
>>97141587Very few by comparison. Now flavor text is either boring exposition, a woke lecture about diversity or a bad Whedonspeak quip.
>>97142928wrong. that is magic 2
>>97142099This will be great for our children's card game! Gays don't like grooming kids, how dare you!
>>97143038>bad Whedonspeak quip.But enough about Ice Age 1995 Jaya Ballard.
>>97142062>going to be 10x more pushed and likely sell 10x moreIt's going to sell as bad as Spooder-man unless they give us Rivals alt art cards of the hot chicks- and we all know Disney and WotC won't do that.
>>97143058Children don't play MtG
>>97138780If true duals are "just lands" why is there such a need for them by every proxy tard?If they are "just lands" a basic or a tapped land will do just as well, a land is a land.
>>97143071They will continue to cry about chuds while using marvel 90s art and Rivals art in collectors boosters, it's peak jewery
>>97143091Nta but they're just lands to me. I run 90% basics in all decks
What's the most quirk chungus commander?
>>97143151Wort Boggart Auntie
>>97142447Yeah thats true
>guy has 3 creatures, Razaketh, the Foulblooded, avacyn, and his commander kaalia which is unprotected (lol)>Another player has a Stone of Erech>Cast and exile effect on his commander >He sacs it to tutor, in response to him tutoring, I cast sudden edict.>He spends 5 fucking minutes trying to react to a split second card before he finally sacs his foul blooded to the edict.I'm going to fucking go insane.
>>97141832this makes skeletons more playable in standard than edh
>>97143074>children dont play mtgThen it's for chuds and chuds dont like gay shitEither way it's easy to understand why UW is worthless and why UB exists in the first place
>>97143188it's quite funny to counter a split second card with a morph creature
>>97143209Yes, but that's like literally the only thing that can and he didn't have blue.
>>97143151changeling "tribal tribal" commanders, so Morophon or Ur-Dragonthey think they have this cute and quirky idea but in reality its just Slivers in disguise
>>97141605AI tends to write like this if you ask it to write an intelligent character. Not accusing this flavor text of being AI; just pointing out an observation since I use AI writing a lot for solo roleplay.
>>97141605I can forgive nonsense terms like parageometrics or whateverWhat's more jarring is, ofc, how hard wotc virtue signals>guys hasbro has no money what do we do to keep this dead weight afloat? What demo has the moolah?>i know! Let's pander to blacks! And in the worst ways possible too!Lol
>>97141522Have you never fantasized about what an ideal card for your deck would look like? It doesn't need to be Rhystic Tithe levels of bullshit. If lorwyn has a 1-drop green fairy rogue with flying I'll basedpog because my deck wants that so bad.
>>97143275Black nerds are the only niggas with money so it makes sense
>>97143275They aren't pandering to blacks. They are aware their efforts may attract a small percentage of black players, bit in reality they are pandering to the mostly white left audience who are the ones who will buy all of these "inclusive cards" and now won't attack them endless in public forums for "lack of diversity and inclusiveness."
>>97143275I think the real problem I have with Zimone is the problem I also have with Aminatou: I have no idea who the fuck they are. All of their cards are just them being brainy (or in Ammy's case, cryptic) without any real understanding of their goals or personalities. Like I'm pretty fucking bad at knowing anything about characters anymore, but I kinda have a feel for who people like Kaito and The Wandering Emperor are from what they say and what's said about them on cards, and similar things can be said of characters like Winter. I don't know SHIT about Eldraine, but I get who Rowan and Will are because you can get it off their fucking cards.Like somehow Zimone was all over duskmourne and I have no idea what the fuck she did at all. I'm not going to read a bunch of short stories to try a piece it together either if she's not interesting to me to begin with because all she appears to be is the black kid on cards that talks like a smartass.
>>97143297They're also pandering to me since I think she's pretty hot at least before duskmorne
>>97143316Magical negro stereotype.They should read some Stephan King novels if they are going to pull the trope so much, maybe they could then at least reach his level of character designs with them, though that's not saying much King barely fleshes them either but they look like anime protagonists compared to what WotC does with them.
>>97143316>ninja>empress>kingKaito and co. are easy enough to understand because of their jobs we automatically think good cool shit about themBut not only is a professor inherently less cool zimone also happens to be presented as a know it all nerd and everyone has had a run in with that kind of person in highschool, throwing you off from the fantasy; nobody likes those people, not even fellow nerds
>>97143362Dr. Sheldon Cooper is one of the most beloved fictional characters in the past 20 years and that's exactly what he is.>Imagine liking the Big Gay TheoryNot the point, a lot of people do like the archetype, if it's well presented, but yes, Zimone is not.
Image limit reached so fuck it.NEW THREAD>>97143392>>97143392>>97143392
>>97143389Sheldon isnt supposed to be taken seriously but we're supposed to take zimone seriously and that's the key differencd
>>97143199Don't yuck my yum!
