>WOD: "Yes you can play a child character, go ahead, here are the rules for them.">SW: "Yes you can play a child character, go ahead, here are the rules for them.">GURPS: "Yes you can play a child character, go ahead, here are the rules for them.">D&D: "[AUTISTIC SCREECHING]">BRP: "Yes you can play a child character, go ahead, here are the rules for them."Why are D&D players the outlier?
>>97153772Wasn't ADND PC age starting like 15 years?
>why can't I force the other players to bring a child along in a game that's about combat?
DnD is directed at puritans and mentally immature people who screech at titty and sex.
>>97153772>DnD>Game designed for barely-functional retards>You "Why are DnD players barely-functional retards?"I'd ask if you've tried not playing D&D, but you seem like a faggot so you probably belong there.
>>97153772DnD overcorrected too hard from Sex with BDSM elves and Satanic Panic>>97153813Child is relative, a 14 year old dragonborn is the equivalent of an 18 year old human for instance. It's just DnD being Milquetoast, a prodegy child/teen wizard works completely fine as a PC for instance. Imogen is what, 15? in Bg1 and 2?
>>97153772Given that any race can be Small in the latest 5e release, I’m pretty sure you can just play a child.
>>97153813Children can have a little fighting. As a treat.
>>97153799You really think OP the nogames tard is really going to know anything about tabletop games?
>>97154471I mean, all four of those DO have rules for them, D&D is the outlier in this.
>>97154949Only nu D&D.Older editions had rules for it.
>>97153772All the other games are for pedo incels.
>>97153772DnD was basically taken over by karens and queers due to being the biggest and the "brand name". So everything with kids is sexual unless it's gay grooming trans shit. It's that classic as soon as you let normies in and they start to like it. The rich yuppies ruin it by getting into it. Look at things like vinyl, basically any collecting, hell even foods that the "rich" get a taste for becomes 5 times more in a year or two.
>>97155007Found the pedo gay incel in hiding.
>>97153813Why shouldn't I be allowed to play as fantasy Joseph Kony?
>>97155059But I'm queer and I mostly play GURPS? Weird.
>>97153813>gets fireballed by a shota wizard
>>97155306Oh so you're a queer >nooo you can't say that
>>97155306Where did I say all gays play D&D? I just said the queers and karens overan that shit and fucked it up. I mean gays got taken over by commies after the AIDS killed most of them off so mostly only the fairies incels were all that were left to take over.
Playing as a kid is one of the most fun things to do because you always wind up being the Kid from Blood Meridian.
>>97154981Nu D&D doesn't even want to have race stats anymore because it might be offensive to someone who thinks society views as a firbolg. The game isn't even neutered it's full-on castrated.
>>97154010Being small doesn't really do anything in DND anymore
>>97155007this is the mentality of D&D players>the presence of children is pedophilia>the presence of races is racism>the presence of gender differences is sexist
>>97153772How did this affect your last gaming session?
>>97155416Imagine how grody you have to be that there is not even a gay man who would fuck you.Bear in mind there are men who seek the companionship of the dirtiest smelliest most sick-encrusted hobo's, because that is their fetish.On that level, it most likely comes down to having a personality like constant nails on a chalkboard.
>>97154981>Older editions had rules for it.I'm looking at the 2e right now and there is no such thing, I am intimately familiar with 3e and there is no such thing, and I am somewhat familiar with 4e and there is no such thing, 5e has no rules around age by design, I don't have a source for anything behind 2e.
>>97156557In 1st and 2nd there should be charts for how age changes your stats, but I think that's the only age related thing.
>>97153772Have you tried not playing Dragqueens & Dogshit?
>>97156557I can't speak to 2e, but 3.X absolutely has rules for playing children tucked away somewhere.
>>97156713Here are the phb rules for age on page 110.I assume that anyone younger than 15 (minimum starting age for a class) would have one of the NPC classes (commoner probably.)So legally speaking you can play a child character in 3.5 if they're 15 or older.
>>97153825>wuh, is that a heccin fetish in my game??>Is just a barefoot gnome>Is just some leather >Is just the belly of the beast motifIt is pathetic how far it has gone.I am convinced the average DnD player puritans are but one of the many tools for the AI tech corp sterilization of the human imagination. Every resonating motif, a fetish to crush, every sexual desire, something to purge for the skinwalker miiboidal avatar stepford virt freak simulcra they want to have replace us all once they find an excuse to genocide our species for not being of value to maximizer morality abominations.They steal your soul by killing any world outside of the DnD rightthink IPs, castrate your spirit with censorship of any potentially upsetting subject matters and rape your body with chemicals and microplastics
>>97156776At 15, you're an adolescent, not a child, and no sane society in human history has ever culturally considered anything over 15 to be an actual child.>legally speakingLegality has no meaning in the context of elfgames, anon. The hazy distinction between childhood and adulthood is precisely why most legal systems use definitions such as "underage" rather than a strict delineation between child and adult. The only ones that seem to insist that everything is a literal toddler until they are 17 years and 364 days old are mentally ill amerifats.
>>97156776>>97156855The chart even specifically refers to it as the age of adulthood. And for humans the minimum character age is 16 (15+1d4).
>>97156855>>97156886anon the bit about "legally speaking" was a joke you didn't have to make two posts about it
>>97156900Anon is a Libertarian. Please be mindful of his needs and don't ask about roads.
>>97156900I only made one of those posts.
>>97156964well now you've made two posts.
>>97156938Just a friendly reminder that roads existed before income tax and the concept of the social contract ever existed.
>>97153813Playing devil's advocate here but plenty of stories of kids fighting in fantasy: peter pan and the lost boys vs pirates, harry potter, fucking narnia, the neverending story, etc...If anything the argument to be made is that d&d specifically isn't made for emulating those stories but the ones featured in appendix n.
>>97153772
>>97156144???? What the fuck are you talking about?
>>97156099Ah no answer because no games.
>>97153772You have been able to make any medium character small since what, Tasha's?Also nobody wants to sit next to your great unclean one ass while you play your loli OC who's actually 500 years old.
>>97157027Don't forget the D&D tv show was mostly all kids and all. Though they want to make D&D a gay fetish game. Hints why they want to purge any kids so they can add more kink shit on it. I mean we all saw that fucking gay shit they posted a few months back
>>97153772You can play a child character in dnd 2e and 3.5 and there are rules for it.
>>97156776You just apply the young template to a base adult.
>>97153772Why the fuck do you need different rules for children?Are they going to stab people differently? Are they going to cast spells differently? Are they going to die differently?If you want to play a child character in DnD, just give yourself a -3 in strength, widom, intelligence and constitution and a +2 in dexterity and assign a size class accordingly.It's a roleplaying game, not every minor distinction has to be codified in the rules.
>>97157956Kids are smaller, weaker, and often have less endurance than a fit adult but faster to recover. As well as easier to trick, trust, scare and hide than adult would be. It's almost like there more to a kid then just their size. Plus no all child PC are for lolis and all.
>>97157986>Kids are smaller, weaker, and often have less endurance than a fit adult but faster to recover>>just give yourself a -3 in strength....constitution>As well as easier to trick, trust, scare>>just give yourself a -3 in ....wisdom, intelligence...and a +2 in dexterityDo u even read? That's not something that needs to be covered as explicit rules. It's just common sense. Do you need rules to not give face stats to a socially awkward?>Plus no all child PC are for lolis and all.Nigger, nobody said that at all. My baseline was Children's fantasy adventure cartoons.If that was anybody's plan or insinutation, there's more introspection to be done(sudoku is always on the table), than crying about the shittiest TRPG company in the world not adding the most pointless thing in the world to the rulebooks.
>>97153825What about the OP made you think about sex?
>>97156778why do you want to add sex to a dungeon crawler wargame?
>>97153799I don't remember if it was ADnD or 2nd edition that had some book with rules for randomly rolling PC starting age, with different modifiers based on the class. Wizards had the highest minimum age while barbarians had the lowest, presumably because becoming a wizard requires a lot of studying while a barbarian needs no training beyond getting angry and swinging a big axe. The average age for barbarian was 14, and it could go to single digits.So, I guess what I'm saying is that lolibarbarian is supported by canon.
>>97158390They did that in 3.5
>>97157986Youthful vigor could be easily represented by having every third point of damage be nonlethal.
>>97156778corpoartions love to castrate their IPs because it never will give you any idea when they start to implement their satanic corpo digital IP mass surveillance pseudo-fascists state pipedream. anything that is thought provocative they hate it because they want cattle. dnd is garbage.
>>97158363what exactly do you think is the reason dnd puriteens dont want you to play as a kid?
>>97158386I'm not even talking like normie sex here, which is fine if it's an adult game to begin with and a big breasted lady who has the ability to boost morale by letting other members of the party fondle her breasts to boost morale is just softcore ecchi stuff with a clear mechanical use case anyways. What I'm saying is that We are at the point you Can't even have someone get transformed into a sentient chair by a witch without people saying it's gooner bait. Sometimes it's just whimsy and even if it is fetish bait, there still is the question on if it's at least interesting fetish bait. Fetish stuff gets repetitive because it's just about the damn fetish all the time but if it is inspiration for something interesting, what's the issue?
>>97159311I can't fucking stand LLMs and how they sanitize everything constantly. Using them for creativity is retarded.
>>97159615The kind of people you're talking about can't separate fantasy from reality, so they probably think it's immoral to imagine children in dangerous situations
>>97158390Awesome.
>>97153772BECMI had rules for playing a kid in the Glantri Gazeeter, studying magic at the Glantri's School of Magic - it's litterally like Harry Potter except it's much older.
>>97153772Shadowrun doesn't have rules for playing children, only rules for playing a mutant who doesn't age.
>>97155383I think in a lore-respecting game, Wizard is one of the only caster classes a child shouldn't be allowed to use. The entire premise is that you're an established academic of magic in some sense. It's like claiming an 8 year old is a PhD. All divine magic, psionics, Sorcerers, and Bards should be fair game though. Warlocks too.
>>97157065I would have loved an episode about tabletop RPGs in Cromartie High.
>>97153772D&D players aren't pedophiles, unlike all those niche games fled to by pedophiles not welcome at normal tables.Let's hear why you want to play a child character, OP who's posting on 4chan.
>>97161097What if I want to play a young would-be hero on a coming of age story?
What I'm getting from this thread is that D&D players are degenerate enough to want to fuck everything in their game, but have threaded the needle enough to not want to fuck kids, so they can't have kids in their game. The idea of not fucking everything in the game never occurred to them.
>>97159615Children aren't old enough, experienced enough, nor physically capable of being adventurers, obviously. Why else?
>>97159720the issue is that you're supposed to be looting dungeons and fighting monsters. sexuality has nothing to do with it.
>>97161633Why do you want to do that?
>>97163902dungeons are wombs and the adventurers are fucking them with their presenceThe psychosexuality is baked in
>>97163970Nope.
>>97163895But that's the fun
>>97157412>I mean we all saw that fucking gay shit they posted a few months backI didn't. Then again, I don't use social media to keep up with what companies want to sell me, I'm making my own stuff.
>>97164002I think he's talking about the gay beholder smiling as gays of various races make out with one another
>>97163977No.
>>97163895In fantasy, they are.
>>97164064It is though
>>97163895Abject fucking lie.Source: The Belgariad.
>>97153813Child soldiers exist, even if you don't want them to.
>>97153799It was the same in 3.5 too. Kinda. The 'base' for humans was 15 and you added a random amount of years based on your class. So the lowest was actually 16 for barbarian rogue or sorcerer and the highest was 27 for cleric druid monk and wizard. Though that was only if you were using random ages.
>>97164116No they're not.
>>97164181No.
>>97164565You aren't interested in pretending to be a child soldier.
>>97165364You know you're wrong
>>97165366Who the fuck are you to say? Child soldier is completely legitimate in some systems/scenarios, such as Twilight 2000.>>97163977This guy has it right. Part of the *point* of child characters is that they are inappropriate for what they are doing. Playing TTRPGs for gay power fantasies is fucking gay.
>>97166312>Playing TTRPGs for gay power fantasies is fucking gay.What about power fantasies that don't involve any homosex? I want to play as a huge fucking monster that's trying to destroy a city and opposed by an escalating military response. In that same scenario, I think it would be interesting to play as a kid caught in the destruction trying to get out. It wouldn't be an ongoing campaign, but a repeatable scenario with different monsters and various possible humans spread throughout the city.
>>97158390It’s heroes of legend from 2e and it does have rules for child characters.
>>97166512Try playing an ordinary child that's trying to destroy a city opposed by an escalating military response
>>97166312Your god, fool. Mind your tongue, lest I cut it from your head.
>>97166312Has it wrong, rather.
>>97166512Wouldn't be interesting.
>>97166902Yeah, you're right. I've never met anyone that ever wanted to see a giant monster destroy a city.
>>97160795>It's like claiming an 8 year old is a PhDThere's Doctor Laurent Simons, who got his PhD. at 15, and there's also Daniel Liu who is also a boy genius who was studying organic chemistry in university at 11.
>>97163911You see anon, there's this thing called "character development" where the direction a story takes has drastic influence on the characters, for good or ill, and seeing it in a dynamic and random environment is cool.
>>97167453I mean, fair. But there's got to be some kind of consequence or prerequisite to even trying that. If you show up with a 12 year old with levels in Wizard, he better not have an Int lower than 16, ideally 18. And there would be roleplaying consequences too; being underestimated is as much a disadvantage as an advantage.
>>97167453>Doctor Laurent SimonsGiven what I know about academe and what it does to people, I feel really sorry for this kid and where he's going to end up.
>>97167745His PhD is in quantum physics, I mean as far as PhDs go it's pretty easy to get one in that since nobody really understands it.
>>97167355Playing as a child wouldn't be interesting. Don't pretend to misunderstand me again. Final warning.
>>97166512>What about power fantasies that don't involve any homosex?No-one said anything about fucking homosex, projectatron. You have your answer.>>97166902Yes it would, faggot. Exploring the same scenario from a multitude of angles sounds fantastic, and being a kid that's just trying to survive is a great premise in itself. Your taste is shit and your opinions are shit.>>97166880Unironically kill yourself.
>>97168834When was the last time anyone was interested in playing the internet tough guy?
>>97160795I figure if a bunch of Rogues try to train up a young street rat as a helper, the kid is going to end up as a Ninja instead (Rogue has resource/negotiation-based skills which are hard for a child to use, while Ninja has a greater focus on child-friendly abilities like jumping + climbing)
>>97168895SWAT's on the way.
>>97168835No it wouldn't.
>>97168835Playing TTRPGs for gay power fantasies is fucking gay.
>>97157383Urban decay and the lifestyles of degenerates wh0PHY4Ko sexually exploit the homeless.
>>97170678what's the point of pretending to have a stroke?
>>97168834>Final warning.
>>97161633Nah man, no kids should be sent into that death pit. And if I found Kiddrewd I would dash his brains against the fucking ground. In fact, some friends and I had a whole Cypher System campaign about a group of adult delvers icing Bondrewd. Fuck that guy.
>>97168834Little bro's suffering from Chūnibyō syndrome
