Why is Age of Sigmar so universally despised? I thinkthose rat dudes look rad, wish we had them in 40k
GW killed Warhammer Fantasy to push Age of Sigmar.Now GW's killing Age or Sigmar to push The Old World.Meaning AoS betrayed both those who didn't want to play it and those who did.All while 40k crowd hates it because every ounce of resources spent making another aelf or orruk is resources not spent making more Space Marines.
>cage of smegma
This is like the 5th aos thread.
>>97162396I'm not an aosfag but I think it's funny how most criticisms I see of it apply to Warhammer in general.>it's too cartoony and unrealistic!So were WFB and 40k.>the worldbuilding makes no sense!Neither did WFB's or 40k's.>there's too much chaos wank!Same in WFB and 40k.>there's too much stormmarine wank!Same in 40k, granted there wasn't an equivalent in WFB.>the rules suck!So did WFB's and 40k's.>the focus on named characters is slop!Same for WFB and 40k.>it's woke!So were WFB and 40k.>most factions are irrelevant!Same for WFB and 40k.
>>97162478> granted there wasn't an equivalent in WFB.Elves.
I genuinely don't think they'd do Total War 40k because Total War has never gone beyond, what, Flintlock weapons? Lever action at best in Fall of the Samurai.
>>97162481Dark Elves maybe. High Elves were constantly shit on in the fluff and Wood Elves basically didn't exist outside their army books, they had zero relevance until End Times's autism where the Bretonnian Lady was sekritly a Wood Elf chick.
>>97162396I love how asshurt AoS makes Valrak. He literally talks about it through gritted teeth and every single time it comes up he spend 2 minutes talking about how he likes fantasy more lmaooo. Hes such a GW cuck he can’t stop himself from talking about it though
>>97162396>Why is Age of Sigmar so universally despised?I play sigmar. I think>it killed a better game that i preferred (more GW's fault than sigmars but by transit of properties its still true)>the lore is retarded and bad>battles mean nothing>the rules get worse every edition>the better minis are mostly frankenstiens of old kits and the new ones are hideous>marketing scheme pushing deathstar named character herohammer centerpiece slop>rules that are basically always just "one good option and two shit ones", so functionally no choice at all>"heres your faction support bro!" And its a 120pt infantry hero who cant make his points back and will just get sniped for a free VP regardless>too few turns so theres no time to maneuver or reposition, meaning the game is basically already over by the end of the deployment phase>too many sculpted on energy effects>the names are retarded>price
>>97162450why?
>>97162751because its well loved.
>>97162577>the lore is retarded and bad>battles mean nothingThis is it for me. It's all the shit I hate about modern 40k distilled. Also these:>muh storyline with marvel characters being the only people who do shit>sanded down "copyrightable" but at the same time more generic settingAoS is the result of tripling down on the direction that 40k is heading in now and it is no surprise people fucking hate it.
>>97162502>sekritly a Wood Elf chickLol!LMAO!Gotta love it when quaternaries speak up.
>>97162396>I thinkthose rat dudes look radthose rat dudes are pickpocketed from another setting.
>>97162506Was he even around when the end times happened
>>97162868Well, aos rules actually follow 40k's rules trends so if you dont like 40k then AOS is a way to temporarily step back. In all other ways though AOS leads the charge on enshitification
>>97162396Well it looks like valrak keeps his channel for nowunfortunately
>>97163134how could this be happening? Age of Sigmar has way more similarities to TWW and would have been way easier to do...
>>97163167Looks like CA wanted to move more units than realms of ruin desu
>>97163167That might be a negative actually. being too close to TWW, but with an expansion pack. Which TWW is already bloated to hell with.
>>97163218>>97163197AoS desperately needs a good video game to be accessible to normies. Not making a Total War: Age of Sigmar title is a huge wasted opportunity of GW and will only bite the game in the ass
>>97163284Nah they wanted to make this a console game, rts console games are guaranteed crash and burns.
>>97163167>>97163284Age of Sigmar hasn't been profitable since launch. Unit variety is also terrible.Don't get me wrong, 40k TW (if it happens) will be a disaster, but it's got way more potential profit than AoS. Still, I think they'll skip 40k and do a Star Wars TW game like the rumors say. 40k is normie slop but SW is advanced normie slop and basically a money printer.
>>97163300https://store.steampowered.com/app/4199910/Total_War_WARHAMMER_40000/bad news for you, bro
>>97163313>lol
>>97162494Never mind. I'm a retard.
>>97163300I think TW 40k doesnt even look like a TW game. it looks like blobs of people in DoW style gameplay instead of formation and flanking TW style games.
>>97163167I'm hearing Creative Assembly *wanted* to make an AoS Total War, but Games Workshop forced them to make a 40K Total War first to get the rights to AoS.
>>97163436>I'm hearing Creative Assembly *wanted* to make an AoS Total War, but Games Workshop forced them to make a 40K Total War first to get the rights to AoS.Man if you believe that I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. They've been bleeding cash the last few years, and Hyenas died before getting released which is a hundred+ million gone up in smoke. 40k will make a ton of casgh and AoS won't, you bet your ass CA was trying their damndest to get the rights to sell slop to 40kiddies
>>97163473After finding out that they’re making tw40k for consoles, I’m really starting to believe that gw is forcing them to try and force their hand to make 40k tw work for the Normie audience, because no one on earth wants a rts with console limitations in mind.
Because age of sigmar doesn't have fans in the way fantasy and 40k doesage of sigmar is purely a toy range rather than a setting or game, the people who buy the models don't actually play the game with them or want to explore the setting of age of sigmar, they just think a dragon miniature looks cool, buy it, paint it, and put it on their shelf. That's why you always see AoSfags raving about what WHFB faction or character will be added to AoS. This is because, in truth, they prefer the fantasy setting and characters, but are in sunk cost fallacy mode (likely due to getting into AoS via total war before Old World released, as it was the only supported fantasy warhammer game at the time) and try to cope by pretending AoS is doing fine and people love the setting when it isn't true at all.The last two editions have been declining in popularity, the starter sets don't sell, the setting is uninteresting slop even after a decade, and no game dev wants to waste their time with an IP that has never been proven to be popular or profitable
>>97163436Fuck I hope not. Then as a history fag I will have to wait through 40k slop, then aos slop, before getting my god promised total war 30 years war in 2035
>>97163167CA needs that money, they really really do. And 40kpiggies will buy any old slop that crosses their trough
>>97163300>SW is advanced normie slop and basically a money printer.I don't think that's true in 2025. The sequel trilogy and cringe TV shows killed the golden goose.
>>97162577>transit of propertiesLeast low IQ TWW larper.
its basically 40kified fantasy, you just smash and counter smash blobs of infantry into each other it doesn't really have the nuances built into a rank and file wargame.
>>97162478>So were WFB and 40k.Not really.>Same in WFB and 40k.Not really.>Same in 40kStormcasts aren't in 40k.>So did WFB's and 40k's.Not really.>Same for WFB and 40k.Not really.>So were WFB and 40k.Not really.>Same for WFB and 40k.Not really.Wow arguing like this is easy, I should do it more.
>>97163473>They've been bleeding cash the last few years, and Hyenas died before getting released which is a hundred+ million gone up in smoke.This makes me believe anon before because it's clear Creative Assembly is retarded and probably would think a niche IP would make more cash than 40k.
>>97162396>I thinkthose rat dudes look rad, wish we had them in 40k>we>40kSlop setting enjoyer likes other slop setting? Surprising indeed!
>>97165015This is my main complaint about TWW, which I do enjoy; positioning doesn't mean SHIT. Your movements can be complete generalities. That's why I love the Field of Glory games; you may have Roman legions or Alexander's pikemen, but nothing's certain when your line gets out of position and barbarians or militiamen get into the gaps and start charging your units' sides
>>97162396The wretched retard Alan (No) Merritt is key to all this, a stupid, vain, petty arsehole incapable of creativity. Stuck watching the studio go from strength to strength while he's doing whatever boring shit he was barely fit for. But he bided his time and eventually he was able to call the shots, and his big idea? Annihilate the companies' foundational setting out of sheer spite and replace it with a dreadful warcraft/gatcha mash-up. But luckily, there's something deeply wrong with some of the losers who've been attracted to the hobby, they have this flaw where they will do literally whatever a corporation tells them to, and they sat on the internet for years pretending that your abortion of a setting and failure of a game was successful while for the first time we had real sales numbers from outside GW for just how popular Warhammer was, and even better, just how popular gays of smegma isn't.And then one day you get fired, but the repulsive shills, all two of them keep forging on until, at last, they 41% themselves in a tranny suicide pact and there's no one left to pretend anyone ever liked AIDS of shitmar
>>97165109I was talking about sigmar on tabletop, I never played total war. But yes basically the same aspects apply to the tabletop wargames. You got your line troops, archers, skrimishers, and the like. positioning and facing is everything in a proper medieval wargame. granted positioning matters in AOS too but its a lot more gameified.
>>97162478Wrong on every count, not worth refuting, apart from the rules sucking
>>97163436>I'm hearing thatFrom where exactly, your imagination?>No sorry you have to prove yourself with our minor IP 40k before you can have access to the real plum, Cuckcage of Deadgame
>>97162396Age of Sigmar as a setting is intrinsically evil (corporate slop apotheosis) and any/all attacks against it is justified.
>>97164647the normies I know still like it they just ignore the shitpiles or pick and choose things they like from it and ignore the rest.
>>9716316740k is such a gimmie for moneyif they do an AoS game they'll probably call it TW4
>>97169244>40k is such a gimmie for moneyon paper that should be the case but they fucked it up by catering to consoles.They're gonna have to offer day 1 refunds from the retards that try and buy it en masse.
>>97164680Hey man leave him be he's just trying to survive in a doggy dog world
Models are good, rules are for the most part a better system than WHFB. It's lore is hit and miss, most people's reason to dislike it is because it changed the lore of /theirdudes/ or they are still bitter about WHFB being ended but not really but kinda with The Old World. GW also handled the End Times a bit like rocks fall everyone dies, there wasn't a lot of satisfying conclusion to be had and some of of the decisions were odd.
>>97169283>rules are for the most part a better system than WHFBare they really comparable given that WFB was a rank and flank game and AoS is a skirmish game?
>>97162396why would a warhammer retard like warhammer with vegan primaris?
>>97162396You can find the rats in fantasy
>>97162396It insists upon itself
>>97169283Have you ever even played WHFB?
>>97163436>Ass of Smegma was the gem CA was REALLY after, but they were FORCED to make a 40k game first!The funniest part is you actually believe this.
>>97169283>rules are for the most part a better system than WHFBThe rules are nothing alike you fake grog millennial faggot cůck.
>>97163348Not as retarded as the people making TOW 40k.
>>97163167It would be stupid to make AOS Total War right after Fantasy when 90% of factions are just remixes of each other40K is the right step with way more money maker potential
>>97163436how the fuck is 40k the test property to do AoS?How does that even make sense seeing IF they did need a test property, surely Warhammer fantasy was already that to begin with?
>>97162396It's not. Imagine caring what that idiotbecile clownrak says, he has so shit taste it's the stuff he hates is actually good. He is manchild whose favourite SM are losers wearing the color of his stained underwear, TYVM...>>97171264Hey, cretinbecile, AoS skaven alone outsold ALL of TOW, and that is despite GW going 'hell froze over' and offering TOW trash at prices 50% lower than all of its other ranges. QED.Then there is the fact that the ONLY thing in the whole TOW range that sold out was Cathay, thanks to anime/asian diaspora, army that looks far more AoS than the rest of TOW (and can be easily subbed 1:1 unit for unit for Cities of Sigmar AoS faction). Double QED, kiddo :]
>>97169156Which means it's no longer a money printer if every SW product is no longer a guaranteed success. You've invalidated your own argument
>>97173023I think that anon is dumb, but to play Double's Abdicate for him: I can see a lot of the systems they're developing for space travel in TW40K being ported over to a hypothetical AoS game and their weird Realms. Ideally an TWAoS would feel like a hybrid of TWW and TW40K, where you have 3-5 Realms with full maps to conquer, but those Realms have weird teleport points between each other, with certain factions having their own faction-specific realm travel as well (Lizardmen and Skydwarves can fly between Realms, Skaven can tunnel, chaos can brave the wastes or some shit, etc). I'm not really interested in a TWAoS game, but they could make it neat if they did it right. Granted, I don't even expect them to do TW40K right.
>>97162396>Why is Age of Sigmar so universally despised?Because it nakedly exists only to be a fantasy-themed spinoff of 40k and only exists to sell very expensive minis, with the setting being a badly-conceived afterthought and the game not even existing in the initial iteration.Since then the main good things in Smegmar have been those based on or directly copying WHFB, while everything original to the Smeggie designers has been incredibly gay-looking, more appropriate to World of Warcraft or Critical Role than Warhammer.Smeggies will pretend the game is totally good now but they know in their hearts it's a brittle, thin layer of superficial Warhammer aesthetic over a lazy cash grab.
>>97177843You sound like a secondary
>>97163167Because it would start a race between Sega and the total war playerbase to see who can lynch the most CA employees. And I would be part of it.
>>97178655Ywnbaw
