Wasted Edition▶Previous thread:>>97108804Battlefleet Gothic, Blood Bowl, Epic, Kill Team, Man-o-War, Middle-Earth Strategy Battle Game, Mordheim, Necromunda, Shadow War: Armageddon, Titanicus, Underworlds, Warcry, Warhammer Quest, Warmaster ...... and any other GW system and board game are welcome.▶Helpful resources: (feel free to suggest additions!)https://pastebin.com/qq9N8V0V▶TQWhat specialist game have you played the most this year?
Posting my broodscum, Bolas, Gala, Kulo and Mina
Lost a 20 XP wrecker to some Cawdors. Rolled 65, took him to doc, he asked 20. Wrecker died under the knife.Stings, but such is life in the underhive.
Blood Bowl Chads, how many of you have already switched back to CRP?
>>97173983I paid 100 for a death maiden who was worth 300 and something die under the knife.Had bezerker and an extra attack, was absolutely beautiful rolling 7 dice on the charge
Got some sick bases printed for my skaven. These are gonna be a bit of a bitch to paint with how many little techy greebles they've got but it'll be worth it.
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>>97175278I never liked how brutefun made his skaven like two heads taller than gw's it makes them look so lanky
>>97175350Well to be fair those are blitzers/stormvermin. The linerats are smaller
>>97175476the linerats are just as tall and some of them are taller than human linemen, it just messes with me
I know dwarfs got knocked down a lot in the new edition, but do we expect them to still be decent if you lean in to the heavy fouling/devious play that GW clearly wants them to?God I wish the death roller got a price cut
>>97175589Well if you're talking GW humans those are old models and I think they are 28mm scale rather than 32mm which definitely wouldn't help. The rats look reasonable next to nobility
>>97174761I can't imagine anyone would go back to CRP. Have there been flaws in the rules since GW revived Nuffle's Great Game? Sure, every edition (including CRP) have had flaws. But why go back to a worse edition?
>>97174761As long as you weren't among the few teams that got raped, this edition is fine. That said, removing randoming secondaries and lower skill costs for randoms was fucking dumb
>3 player ffa to capture loot crates with van saar, cawdor and me on venators>they immediately team up against me>cawdor infiltrates a handflamer near me and I misjudge the range >beastman and bolter overwatcher get pinned down entire game>van saar had a lascannon that I didn't know he had>it shot at my ogryn for three turns and did one flesh wound>fail a charge with the ogryn and get swamped by two juves and a deacon>they only manage to deal flesh wounds and ogryn pastes the deacon and a juve>van saar throws a photon flash at the melee>ogryn passes initiative and the last juve gets blindedcalled it there but I fucking hate multiplayer missions
>>97176631They can be fun if it's a real free for all and have good deployment.If you're doing ZM and using 3*3 you need to do different deployment.So 1 player can only deploy on the edge of tile 2, 1 on the side edge of tile 7 and the last on the side edge of tile 9
>>97176677we did pic related for deployment and it worked out alright, I just hate the fact that as soon as one player pulls ahead just a tiny bit or are perceived as more dangerous, the shitty alliances come out and the game becomes a 2v1
>>97176704Well... bad for gameplay but quite realistic indeed.still hate it as well. i just hope than in those cases one stabs the other one in the back soon. but that rarely happens befor "you" are ruined.
>>97176794not saying it's not realistic, but I am saying that I may as well not even play
>>97176823well it IS stupid but you have the option to bail in those cases right? and yes it is shit to play and not to play in those situations.
>>97176831voluntarily bottling after trying your best and cutting your losses is one thing, doing so on turn 1 after realizing there is no realistic way to even have fun is another
>>97176854yea needs to be a good mix of both in that case.
>>97176704Yeah that's not a bad map.>>97176794Yeah, it's happened to me too. Or played a game where it looks like it's even, but it's actually 2 players who can fight each other first, they get stuck in, then the 3rd player comes in to wipe up the mess
>>97176631That's what you get for playing Venators desu.
>>97176631>beastman and bolter overwatcher get pinned down entire gameIf only that beastman got access to a free Nerve of Steel.
>>97176704I don't think that is a great map (and representing it on a graph shows why). The top two players are (or can be) ~5 squares away from each other after deployment, while the bottom player will be at least ~9-10 squares away from anybody.I dislike 3-player FFA games too, you really need a smart scenario to prevent SOME kind of team-up from happening. I don't even agree that a team-up is realistic, because gangs in that situation wouldn't have a perfect top-down view of the conflict and wouldn't be able to make unintuitive-but-strategic decisions like a player is able to.
Really enjoying my time painting MESBG minis
I'm split on what team to try in a TT league that's starting a 2025 season.>Black OrcsI think they'll play a bit better than before thanks to the Troll buff, Brawlin' Brutes, Secure the Ball pickups, and getting fouling goblins online being super easy, but they're obviously still going to be quite bad.>Chaos DwarfsNever played them in a proper league before, 2025 changes are really fucking dumb for them especially but something is still telling me to give it a go, especially as it's not like the other option I'm mulling is all that great to start.
>>97177678Very nice, you shall pass
>>97176631> Playing venatorsNo, you completely deserve it
>>97178679Venators are such a retarded idea>for bounty hunters to work together they need to adopt a special religious structure and wear theatre masks and give up their namesso stupid.
>>97179327There is no proof of this. Bonedry and broke depicted a totally normal band of mercs
>>97177129>>97178679>noo how dare you run ogryns with guns and bad goliath gangers
I was ok with Venators until the past few months, but now the sheer number of people I see choosing them has contaminated. They're the Drizzy Do'Urden of Necromunda, along with Enforcers.
>>97179968They're the /yourdudes/ gang that actually has somewhat good rules. There's nothing wierd about it. It would be nice if outcasts were given some buffs, though.
>>97179527Yeah because the author read a description of venators and thought "that's fucking retarded"
>>97180436It's just a lore blurb, and it doesn't apply to every venator gang. It only adds some fluff that's completely optional
>>97180951Like the "escher is only girls" optional lore thing or the "goliath are beefy roiders" optional lore thing.
>>97181548NTA but it literally says right in that blurb>for many bounty hunters>When such VenatorsMany is not all and such isn't necessary there if it's a thing all Venators do.
>>97179968They are common because they are the easiest way to use specifically geared models that you probably wouldn't be able to otherwise. Yes it can be easy to power game with them but it isn't like that is a problem unique to them. Enforcers were always popular but were stuck with either having to use specific campaign structure or the Badlands list, so it isn't really surprising they have blown up in popularity again with their recent release fitting them into normal gang structure.
>>97180951>>97180436>>97181548That blurb is only giving an example of one the old surviving traditions. It isn't saying they all do it.
>>97181575Yes, as INDIVIDUALS but when they join a venator gang its masks and rituals.Tge fucking state of your reading comprehension.
>>97181575>literally says right in that blurbIt was referring to the facts that most Bounty Hunters work alone, or as hired gun. Venators gang have contract with the Guilders to claim extra bounty on both dead and alive targets, random dudes band together do not declare themselves venators, they need the guilders bounty contract.
>>97181652Yup, that's like the old, traditional way to do it. Considering the HH-era Solar Auxilia regiments from Necromunda were called "Coursers" I think that "the hunt" has some sort of cultural significance for old Necromunda traditions (see also: Spyre Hunters/Spyrers). >>97181749No, that boxes text is clearly stating that not all Venators go full cultist with it.
>>97182014Nothing wrong with forming a group with like minded individuals and dressing up in hoods and hiding your face to go out hunting undesirables.
>>97178378Which team looks cooler to you?
>>97182419I already own them both, I just don't know which I want to play.
>>97182654Coin flip.
>>97182654Do chorfs. Never played them but them seem cool
>>97180038You have represent Your Dudes in any gang by reskinning it. There are almost no rules in the game so mechanically unique/original that they immediately call to mind the culture or qualities of a single gang, and would be non-immersive if utilized by proxied models.The fact that, as you say, Venators have very strong rules, gives away the truth -- these mythical yourduders weren't that interested until the pick me gang obtained powerhouse rules.
>>97181749Wrong. The first paragraph starts out, "Necromundan Bounty Hunters are a hugely varied class of individuals" and then later states "Some border on being classified as death cults." The subject never changes from one sentence of the paragraph to the next. It is always Necromundan Bounty Hunters.An individual cannot be classified as a cult or cults. Which means we know the first paragraph about hugely varied individuals also applies to organizations of those individuals. So Necromundan Bounty Hunters are a hugely varied class of individuals, and a hugely varied class of organizations.The second paragraph first describes Bounty Hunters with near-religious attitudes, and then it further narrows down that category into the oldest traditions. These are not the same sets. There are Bounty Hunters with a near-religious attitude, and then among those Bounty Hunters is a subset of those with the oldest traditions of Bounty Hunting that has a religious attitude (and they do the rest of the stuff you don't like).Be honest. Are you Polish? Russian? Finnish? Is this a Baxx or JawRippa situation? Your skill at interpreting English is imperfect compared to a native speaker, but I am impressed with your ability to speak at all.
>>97183185Not that anon, but English is like my third language he is clearly having a case of 84%As in 84% of people do not understand what they read. Because even throwing the text into a shitty translator it clearly indicates that some venators go cultist and that is not the norm.
>>97184200That's a result of a shitty tranlator you fucking eSL bitch, the goddamn nerve of you to act high and mighty over MY LANGUAGE when you are aware that you are a fucking newb and your tool is a piece of shit.
This is a bit of a long shot to ask here maybe, but if any of you mesbg enthusiast had a friend sell you lotr backup copies of minis from the Ukraine you might know what I'm talking about. There was a shop doing a Black Friday sale last week and towards the end of the sale the page went 403 forbidden and now it's offline.Were people getting scammed or did that guy fall victim to the ongoing Ukraine-Russia war?
>>971855092bh probably the latter, Ive had it happen with guys I use before and it came back in a couple of weeks, a few days after my order had arrived
does anyone have any memorable custom necromunda missions they want to share?I'm having a hard time coming up with stuff that doesn't involve escorting npcs or monster hunts
Name my band.>>97185509I got an email with my tracking number just today, don‘t worry. What did you order?
>>97185509>Were people getting scammed or did that guy fall victim to the ongoing Ukraine-Russia war?No, my friend's been up for years.>>97186914oh thank fuck. i was worried he died
>>97185945One mission I recall reading about was like a 'duel at high noon' scenario where every gang involved picked a champion to square off against one another in the middle of the board while the other gangers were set up hidden in cover. Once the duel begins and they get like a round of combat in, the other gangers can join in too.
>>97186914The Bitch Kings
>>97185945We made a custom scenario based on an idea from a Yaktribe and called it a 'Power Struggle'. There are 5 neutral generators spaced 6" away from each other on the battlefield. With a basic action you can capture a neutral generator (no test required) or re-capture an enemy generator (a successful INT test is required). Alternatively you can attack and destroy generators, they have T5 and W3, no armour.At the end of the 6-th round whoever controls more generators wins. If there is only 1 gang remaining, the game lasts one additional round then ends.Alternatively, there is a great scenario concept which GW suggested in a "random scenario generator" they've done a while ago: there are 2 'critter swarms' markers which you can interact with by making a basic action to gain a VP, after which the swarm runs away 3D6" (I don't remember what happens when it crossed the border of the battlefield, but we've ruled out that it appears in the centre and keeps moving in the same direction). Whoever has more VP at the end of 6th round wins. This one is probably my favourite, as it often results in a very chaotic games.>>97183185My situation is fine, thanks.
>>97176156How is CRP worse than the current edition? For me CRP has a huge advantage of not changing anymore which means you can learn to play around the flaws rather than go through the never-ending shit-flood of DLCs and edition-change nightmare cycle every 2 years.
>>971766313 FFA games are almost never fun, its either a an early team-up and 2v1 or two gangs duking it out till death (due to one of the players having a beef with another even pre-game, like campaign grudges) while the third gang enjoys the show while eating popcorn and wipes out the remaining survivors in the end.>>97176704This probably results in 1v1 while the gang at the bottom wins due to being slightly further to attack. But this is probably the best you can do with 3 FFA deployment.I straight out think that a fun 3 FFA scenario is impossible, unless all three players actively try to keep attacking each other equally.
>>97185627>>97186914>>97188445that is good to know. I've used him before, but missed the window to place an order during the sale. The whole thing just left me scratching my head a bit.
>starting a new Necromunda campaignOf the 8 players, there are 5 new players. 3 of them are playing Enforcers and the other 2 are playing Venators. FML.
>>97183140Yup. Venator players are generally power gamers.
>>97189946They really should have made some of the original house gangs cooler.
>>97176631The only way I've found to "fix" 3FFA was with random deployment for all the players.As in every model gets one square of the table to deployed and is randomly placed, then the players get some D3 models to redeploy (to prevent dumb situation like the sniper guy being placed on the ground, the melee guy on a tower or protect some model you want in a safer position)It's not perfect but at least players are less retarded when placing models because they are placing from a shared pool of models
>>97189946I like the Venator or Outcast only campaign only because of the stupid shit people can come up with.
>>97189946The edgelords tend to pick the "special snowflake" Enforcer (oh no,I'm picking the police in a criminal gang warfare game, i'm so unique) when starting out, but when they realized that Enforcer is actually the most popular gang, it might change. Just hope that the group last till the next campaign.
>>97176631>>97189779>>97190232It might be fun to get a "gang A targets B targets C targets A" loop of backstabbing, where you have to hit your designated enemy and still defend from the faggots who want to see YOU dead. Everyone has a different but specified target, any alliances are super-temporary "I'll let them live one more turn so they can fuck up the gang targeting ME" situation.
How bad of an idea is it to start a Cawdor gang with a hand flamer word keeper with delivery bomb rats? Is it too expensive? Useless?
>>97191228That might be really expensive right out of the gate because you need grenades to pair the bomb delivery rats with.
>>97191239Maybe just a hand flamer and a very cheap melee weapon for the start. I know hand flamer doesn't have sidearm so it's going to be far from optimal. Later on I load up on some bomb delivery rats and bombs. I'm looking into skills if anything would have synergy with this.
>>97191228>>97191271You are aware that Cawdor flame weapon is exterminator and Polearm with Blunderbuss?Now that's out of the way, getting hand flamer is a meme build on cawdor. But leader doesn't really need good weapons, or any weapon at all, if you're just overseer and send out meme rat.
>>97191286I'm aware. I would try to fit in gangers with blunderbusses, a heavy crossbow champ and as many juves as I can. The word keeper idea I have is more on the narrative/fun side than optimality but I am still considering whether it's too dumb. Meme rats and a meme word keeper sounds fun.
>>97189748The "nightmare-cycle" as you put it is every five years. The Pass skill allows them to have a player who's good at throwing but not dodging so you can have more diversity in the player pool. Giving big guys SPP for successfully throwing team mates is a great addition. Having bashy teams get more SPP for casualties than TD's makes them easier to level across a league as they're incentivized to do what they're good at. Having a special action to pick up the ball on a 2+ really helps teams that are more focused on bashing. Allowing players to jump over downed players prevents boxing in a character with bodies. Having actual rules against stalling is great for the game overall. Do I need to keep going?
>>97189748What's wrong with the CRP? It's not the LRB6, it's just a portion of it, why just have the cake when you can eat it too?>>97191573>pass skill lets you have throwers and dodgers that aren't bothexcept what it did was make it so no one had any fucking throwers.>you can't use bodies to cageNo one ever did that, you're inventing problems>rules against stalling prevent stallingStalling was a feature, not a bug, your bash teams don't need to swap SPP rewards for TD's and injuries if they an play the way they're meant to.>everyone should be able to pick up the ball with easeNo, some teams very specifically are meant to suck at football, they typically make up for it by being good at murder.>throwing teammates should get SPPwhy? throwers only get the one successful pass rewarded and TMM is never "successful"How about you learn the game as it was meant to be played instead of demanding it be changed to suit you?
>>97191704I can't tell if your reading comprehension is just ass or if you're trying to twist my words. No where did I say I was demanding the game be changed. CRP/LRB6 was literally designed in the vacuum of the lack of an update cycle to the rules. I like the game being shaken up once in a while and I do see it as improvements. If you don't wanna play BB2025 and wish to stick with LRB then fill your boots mate - run a local league or tournament using whichever rules you wish! I'm glad we have choices. I'm just getting a little frustrated that this newest revision is being poo-poo'd by grognards who as far as I can tell haven't read the rules or simply don't fucking know how to play. How about you go run your league tournament your way and leave the rest of the community (including NAF) to run our leagues and tournaments using the new rules OK champ?
>>97191842>CRP/LRB6 was literally designed in the vacuum of the lack of an update cycle to the rulesNo.. they WERE the update cycle, or rather LRB was, CRP was a result of GW sticking their nose in to a good thing and fucking with it. LRB was made by the games creator, the shit now is a shitpile from a third party who has a financial-legal lean on that mans creations because he made the "mistake" of earning money to eat.And that update cycle ended as the man who created the game determined that the peak of the design had been reached, and he didn't make that decision arbitrarily, he did so as a result of the community feedback saying the game was now perfect, the only "flaws" remaining were a result of porting it 1:1 to vidya where multiple years worth of play could be squeezed into a month.
>>97185945https://yaktribe.games/community/threads/bug-hunt-homebrew-scenario.15087/Mt group had fun with this one awhile back. Yaktribe has a bunch of community made stuff.If you want a quick multi-player scenario, just have a regular gang fight with randomly rolled secret objectives. So, its an all out brawl, but secretly the gang is trying to (assassinate a specific champ, exit the NW corner of the board, set a specific terrain piece on fire, plant surveillance devices, uncover and escape with some hidden tech, etc.) A bit of brainstorming will give you a bunch of ideas and some ideas for simple mechanics.
Just chillin in Osgiliath
Any Mordheimers here play Norse Explorers or have some good suggestions on a starting warband load out/roster?
feeling pretty pleased with my venators
Can’t seem to find a human team with a design I dig. Been looking for a decent human team to pick up because the GW is fucking ancient but there doesn’t seem to be a third party that makes bloodbowl human teams they’re always themed to some shit that isn’t bloodbowl
>>97190057I feel like Delaque is cool but they don't have enough variety in their aesthetic
>>97190505I know one of the guys is a failed cop (due to psych evals), another is just into special snowflake factions. Idk.
>>97194515>playing Venators while using Enforcer models to make guys that look like Cawdor rejects who got too into BDSMBah gawd, that's the Expectations Subvertor's music!
>>97191874>they WERE the update cycle, or rather LRB was, CRP was a result of GW sticking their nose in to a good thing and fucking with it. Isn't CRP simply LRB but with no lore and copyrighted art? It's basically a printer-friendly LRB.
>>97194515Are these guys loyal to the Imperium despite their spiky ways? If not you really should be shaving down some of those aquilas.
>>97195003The coolest thing about Delaque are the octopuses xenos thingy
>>97194863Gonna be honest - I found a fennec fox team proxy that I got 3D printed for humans, mostly because there are 3 teams of humans (Human, Imp. Nobility, Bretonian) and I have Season 2 & Season 3 boxes already. If you look for proxies there are a ton for the original Human and Orc teams if you wanna get them 3D printed.
>>97195482No, it cuts out some teams GW doesn't like because they said so.
>>97195518why would a bunch if homeless bounty hunters care about aquilas on their equipment they either looted or bought from some shady dude?
>>97196430Why would they remove it in the first place?I mean unless they are heretics, even the random outlaw would still be an Imperial and have some faith in the Emperor.Since the Imperial Eagle is both an Imperial and Religious symbol it would be strange to remove it.
>>97194863Ivan Ugni if you want high detail, Calaverd Griffon team if you want it simple.
>>97196449yes that's why I didn't remove them, and was confused why >>97195518 thought they needed to be shaved down
GW posted a FAQ/errata for Underworlds but didn't announce it.https://assets.warhammer-community.com/eng_17-12_whuw_core&key_-rules_update-ulnlmn5pfk-gxepzf8u87.pdf
>>97196510If anyone here cared, we'd be over there keeping up like you.We don't. Some GW fans might come here as well as there, but those of us who only come here do not give a fuck what GW does or says about whichever game we play, we've got our rules, we've got our minis, we don't need GW to exist to have a supply of either.
>>97196623Fuckin badass reply
>>97196794Does anon think we don't know about GW's own websites and news or something?
>>97197144I play GW games with little stick figures I made myself!
>>97197169Can I see them?The new captchas are fucking annoying
>>97197185Only if you lack pattern recognition capability, which is a basic facet of human intellect.
>>97197276Task being easy, does not make it less annoying.
>>97197408It measurably does, best captcha yet, actually seems to filter out a lot of trash posters as it requires a certain degree of mental faculty beyond "write down what you see in front of you"I suspect that this will result in it being changed soon as the undesirable trash posting is only undesirable to users.
>>97197502it has absolutely retarded implementation
>>97197518or your customizations to how you view and interact with 4chan are suffering from retarded implementation.
>>97197185Yeah sure, why not.
>>97197631This is kind of like my "halfling" team that I made out of those Clod STL's floating around on cults/thingiverse.The fluff is that the halfling mage/druid who is coach summons up a team from the very pitch they are playing on before a match.In reality it was a way to get myself a stunty from print to tabletop paint in under 6 hours, prime black, drybrush up from dark brown to light brown and then quickly slap a number on the back of each one.
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>>97197631Lovely and themed. Got more pics? What are they run as?
>>97196623You haven't played a game since the aughts
>>97196430>>97196449I mean, my first question was "are they loyal," because they look like Chaos cultists. But instead of answering that you vaguely gestured to them being... homeless?In your imagination are those literally pieces of Imperial Guard equipment that found their way onto the black market? Or are they supposed to be generic substitutes?If generic, they wouldn't have aquilas. None of the house gangs have aquilas. The Hive Scum don't have aquilas. GSC models don't have aquilas. Kal Jericho doesn't have aquilas. Civilian/private weapon manufacturers do not use the aquila as decoration, but whether that is down to custom or an actual part of the lex I don't know.If they ARE stolen Imperial Guard pieces then there's still a good reason to take that stuff off (much like you might file identifying details/numbers off of weapons stolen from state militaries before mongering them). But there are also multiple sources that have shown Guardsmen pilfering/retaining their weapons after service, so heirloom versions with the decorations intact could still be a thing, in smaller numbers.The bottom line is that having them on the weapons is a choice that needs more explanation than having them off the weapons. If your headcanon is that they're devout homeless fellows it will suffice.
>>97192355Lil /wip/botched another eyewill varnish tomorrow
>>97197559I'm with anon here. Sometimes the captcha insist on asking for a captcha even though its showing done or verification not needed. The issue happens even with Chromium base browsers so there is something else fucking it up and its not the adblocker either
>friend gets new wh quest>play for a couple of hours during sunday>the blandest, most boring game you could even conceive>a worse zombicide if that was even possible>booklet that serves as board is so poorly designed the joints desintegrate after two games>models are the worst GW has designed in years >3 of us spend literally (and I mean literally) 3 minutes each turning one of the models around, to this moment I'm still unable to describe what the hell she's wearing I feel awful for the guy. Spent almost 200€ on a below average game designed like an indie company would. GW is becoming too lazy sadly
>>97198355Warhammer Quest ever since Silver Tower (10 years ago) has always been boring.Yes GW made dogshit, overpriced games and they're lazy fucks, you must be new.
>>97197983>because the aquila doesn't fit on the extremely busy models, they don't exist at all on necromundanigga you are retarded and blind, the aquila is literally part of the necromunda heraldry
>Bought Blood Hunt because it was like 130>Look up warcry tierlists>Both warbands are bottom of the barrel dogshit turdfuckoh no
>>97197983What even is chaos-y about the models? Unless you're saying that "any spikes = chaos" then boy do you need to look at some actual Necromunda models.
>>97198196>>97192355Kino. Love the eyes on the first dude
>>97197631>>97197669Whoa there fellas, save some SOVL for the rest of us. But 10/10, would play with.
>>97198355>booklet that serves as board is so poorly designed the joints desintegrate after two gamesThis was my exact fear with the book as a tile concept. If it was just big sheet tiles that sat in a plastic open book frame then it would be fine. But a turning page book that stuff goes on is going to have a very finite lifespan given how book spins work. Unless they went with a sort of binder ring option which doesn't gel with the aesthetic they were going for.
>>97198355>booklet that serves as board is so poorly designed the joints disintegrate after two gamesFucking HOW? How the fuck do you do that and not staple it for that specific reason?
>>97198355>below average game designed like an indie company would. GW is becoming too lazy sadlyweird take. indie companies consistently produce higher quality games than GW. that's been true since the 90s. the GW games worth playing (including the gwsg anybody bothers with) are the statistical exceptions. but sight unseen the default assumption is that anything GW puts out is most likely going to suck a mountain of dicks.
>>97198510Lol what do you think "the Necromunda heraldry" is in-universe?>no room on the busy modelsAs if Goliath weapons are real historical examples and the designers could not deviate from them for authenticity's sake. LMAO you're so stupid. You're such a bitchmade coper. All because you're too lazy/have too many tremors to shave off 2mm of plastic??
>>97198626>uses actual bits from Chaos kits on conversions>"WHOA THERE pardner, why would you say these looks chaosy??"That spiky arm is literally from the Fellgor Ravagers kit. The heads are also immensely Chaos-coded, although I don't recognize what kit they're from. Bloodreavers are similar, though, if anon needs more Chaos-but-n-not-really heads!I've assembled pretty much every kit released for Necromunda (except the Ash Wastes terrain), so please, tell me specifically which Necromunda models I should look at to see random spikes as part of the design language.Goliath, Escher and Orlock models all features some kind of spikes or studs, but they're basically always organized, geometric, and symmetrical. From memory, I think maybe there's a single optional Goliath armor plate with some uneven spikes? If that? Because featuring arrangements of random, asymmetrical... you might even say "chaotic"... spikes of different lengths and thicknesses is Chaos design language through-and-through.
>>97197983Ayyo it's Fernandez Jaques Kurowski
>>97201453But all of the articles are where they should be.
>>97197983>If they ARE stolen Imperial Guard pieces then there's still a good reason to take that stuff offWhy? There's no meaningful law in the Underhive, that would be as pointless as a somali or afghan militant shaving the serial number off his AK that's 4 decades older than he is because he fears the authorities. There's infinite places it could have come from on a planet like Necromunda, or even found its way there from off-world.>>97201136>THE quintessential kitbashing and conversion-friendly game, where a models clothing and equipment could have come from literally anywhere>unironically sticking to GWs design guidelines
>>97201771>Why? There's no meaningful law in the UnderhiveBecause the weapon didn't teleport from its last known location to the deepest and most lawless alley in the underhive?Your example is a dogshit strawman, because militants would never care about the serial number and would never be the ones filing it off at any point. The various people who stole it, hid it, warehoused it, sold it, and transported it, to its eventual home with the militants, are the ones who might remove the markings.The idea that "there's no law or consequences whatsoever in the underhive" is also grimdumb headcanon shit.Lastly, all of the above only applies if you think of the weapons as stolen IG gear in the first place, but conceiving of the weapons as stolen IG gear is less interesting than conceiving of them as generic substitutes. Which wouldn't have aquilas. End result: removing the aquilas is cooler than not removing them. Modifying bits to be unique is cooler than using things untouched and as-is.>THE quintessential kitbashing and conversion-friendly game, where a models clothing and equipment could have come from literally anywhere unironically sticking to GWs design guidelinesSo you admit they look like Chaos models, cool. That's all we needed from you.
>puts Eldar heads on Van Saar bodiesInteresting kitbash anon, are your Van Saar some kind of Eldar?>nooooooo this is supposed to be the quintessential kitbashing and conversion-friendly gaaaaameWill convertlets ever learn that you still need to have good taste to produce good kitbashes/conversions? If you reach into a random bag of bits and start gluing them to random bodies you will end up with random, aesthetically-confused results.
>>97201839Why would it have to be stolen? There's likely entire militia armouries and caches of forgotten and abandoned imperial weaponry all over Necromunda and every other hive city, all it would take is a dome runner to stumble across one and suddenly trading posts are filled with kantrael patterns>So you admit they look like Chaos models, cool.Not really, its just a spiky hat, there are guard regiments with spiky equipment, its not like there's an 8-pointed star on it>>97201872Well yeah a conversion still has to look good, looking cool should be the deciding factor behind the whole model. You don't just build your gangers as shown in the instructions and with the gear in the box do you?
has anyone here played all of gws card games. I'd like a run down on your experience of them,.
>>97199248Exactly my thoughts. Who greenlit the book map and didn't think about including a ringbound version
>>97198355>models are the worst GW has designed in yearsDogshit taste, the models are kino.
>>97202721>discount bretonnian from temu>dwarf from WoW>chick with a vase>radagast the green>generic hairy heavy metal connoiseur>chick whose armor is fucking unreadable>chiron but...nope, just chironTruly the pinnacle of human art
>>97202773I think I found the problem with your friend's copy of the game, it's supposed to have more than six models. If he calls Games Workshop Customer Service they can probably send the missing components.
>>97202908Fair enough, I was pretty sure I wrote 'hero models are the worst GW has designed in years'. Bad guys look fine imo, not 'box costing more than 200€' fine, but fine tho
>>97202959I agree it's an awful game and an awful value proposition. The Nurgle stuff is very good sculpts but the problem is I don't know how to use them for anything other than an actual Nurgle force.When I bought Blackstone Fortress it was such an eclectic mix of models with no peers. Traitor Guardsmen and Ur-Ghuls and Beastmen? Sign me the fuck up.
>>97203042>Blackstone FortressSomehow that was worse with models. Everything looked awful, and it honestly approached infinity tier designs. Could not care for it whatsoever. And I’m the biggest 40k fanboy there could be.
>>97202190>You don't just build your gangers as shown in the instructions and with the gear in the box do you?Depends... my early gangs (VS, Goliath, GSC, Orlock) have a lot of conversions because variety armaments weren't available except from Forgeworld. When the plastic upgrade kits started coming out they solved almost all of my desires (I even went back and built them for my OG gangs).
>>97203063Shit take
>>97201052>>97201136>>97201839don't you have GW cock to slurp
>>97203067The kelpies alone are more striking than the shitty ghouls and daleks. The eldar is also a genuine fucking miss, looks like something straight out of a boys love magazine. I can’t even critique the rest because it’s genuinely fucking void of character.
>>97201136you are actually a moron just spouting off nonsense
>>97203065>he hasn't converted any of his gangers to give them a Yu'vath Puzzle BoxNeither have I yet, it doesnt suit goliaths
>>97199662Name 3
>>97203132Hahahaha what a pathetic attempt. Could you reach any further?First of all, showing a single model with uneven spikes does not satisfy the criteria. You better be bringing at least 5+ models from different loyalties for the original claim to have any merit.Secondly, it looks like nearly all of the spikes in your desperate picture are, in fact, symmetrical and evenly-spaced.Thirdly, those MFs are EXTREMELY Chaos-coded. They could fit into a World Eaters army with zero changes lmao.Fourthly, you had to go to Forgeworld models to even make 1% of your case, which is deeply funny.Fifthly, try again or fuck off and eat shit.
>>97203207>contradict himself in his own postamazingnow kindly fuck off
>>97203207>Aaaaah hes heckin chaos codedarino'd!Venators would literally just wear whatever they like and/or could get their hands on, anon gave them whatever he liked and could get his hands on. Given the amount of bizarre guard uniforms and gear that existed before GW turned all guard into near-homogenous kriegcadiaslop, they could be wearing literally anything or even completely naked.
I didn't realize it was this easy to piss off the ESLs in herehe's gonna have a melty after he sees the rest of my venators
>>97203300>plasma-gunner with her tits outLol niceAlso mirin the kastelan with the retarded 1950s dome removed
>>97203312yeah, just replaced it with a retarded 1970s reference
>>97203300It's very funny that I made a joke about using Eldar heads, and then you actually do do that, though, isnt it? Child-tier creativity lol.I challenge you to unload that gang in front of any opponent on earth and not have then assume it's Chaos-affiliated.
>>97203245>does not explain the contradiction> *cannot
>>97203340yes, I've played multiple skirmish test games with them before the campaign and none of them thought that they were chaos :)
>>97201052>Lol what do you think "the Necromunda heraldry" is in-universe?You need to go to a hospital, like right now. There's something seriously wrong with your eyes.
>>97203368You're insanely stupid bro. Did you read that and conclude that I was denying the aquila was there? CAN you read?The aquila is there because the symbol of a planet/its ruling family has obvious reasons for representing its fealty to a higher power. What the fuck does that have to do with the iconography that would be found on house/civilian weapons? Do you think Goliath dudes are walking around with "Necromunda symbols" tattooed on their biceps, you mental toad? Lmao
>>97203207>single model with uneven spikesWhat do you mean exactly with "uneven spikes"?
>>97203300Post closeups of those Beastmanz
>>97203417>one of the most popular in universe tattoos doesn't exist on necromunda just because I say it doesn't
>>97203440The banner qualifies. The main guy is wearing teeth and fur from some creature.
>>97203207here is another hint
>>97203447taking these photos made me realize I hadn't painted their nose rings
>>97203466Wearing a broken, stolen aquila (below your makeshift crown) seems really patriotic and pious.
>>97203300The eldar bitches don't fit at all but the other guys look cool.
>>97203500The only reason I asked was to see if you had left on explicit Chaos iconography (you have).I don't think I need to 1v4 you lazy/unskilled bitches any more. I like to do more knife work and micro-detail alteration on my conversions than you guys. But space should be made for people all of abilities <3
>>97203506
Is this the slav you guys were warning people about?
>>97203549You have yet to point to any actual misuse of English in my posts, and seem to just go "haha ESL" as a mindless insult.
>ESL so devastated that he thinks we can tell he's just a third worlder machine translatingWe can tell because you speak like a robot.
>>97203597I love when people are so impressed by my diction that they have to cope by assuming I got a robot to do it for me.Just like with your shitty conversions, you should not project your own limitations onto others and assume that what little you are capable of is the peak of what is achievable.
>>97203506So? The Mercator Sanguis are completely above board and loyalist, there's no reason to believe he isn't wearing his damaged aquila sincerely
>>97203526>I like to do more knife work and micro-detail alteration on my conversions than you guys.Will you ever actually post them? Or just continue to rant about how there's no way you would have a venator could have access to an imperial weapon, a spiky helmet, or a chainsword looted from a dead cultist?
>>97204858I am describing an ethos -- an eagerness or willingness to physically modify bits chosen for conversions rather than using them straight off-the-sprue (particularly when they feature superfluous detail or ornamentation). It is easy to look at pictures of conversion WIPs and see where that care has not been taken. It is less easy to mentally catalogue the dozens of conversions I've done and identify examples of what I'm talking about.Are you asking to see my best conversions? Are you asking to see conversions where I carved off superfluous details?Here are some Jakhals destined to be extra bodies in a CGC gang. I removed some of the flagrant Chaos iconography on their blood-backpacks and filled in the Chaos engravings on their chainswords.Default Jakhals here for comparison: https://www.warhammer.com/en-WW/shop/world-eaters-jakhals-2023?queryID=bdea5cfb5be914691ee122ebc404d0ad
Here is a Cawdor long rifle built before the Cawdor Weapons and Upgrades set was released. It uses a Skitarii rifle with some of the filigree and decoration removed (wish I could've gotten more of it off).
Are palatines good to start with
Default Skitarii here for comparison: https://www.warhammer.com/en-WW/shop/Skitarii-Rangers-2017Here is the closest thing I've made to Venators. You can see the belt buckles where Kharadron Overlords iconography was scraped flat.Default Overlords here for comparison:https://www.warhammer.com/en-WW/shop/Kharadron-Overlords-Grundstok-Thunderers-2017?queryID=d728238ccd0d00457cb8942feadcef92https://www.warhammer.com/en-WW/shop/Kharadron-Overlords-Arkanaut-company-2017?queryID=7f50d1c3acac7a2da9c61e3f05fbc832
Here are some GSC boltguns and lasguns, since those are good Necromunda weapons not available in any GSC kits. I don't think I removed any details on these models and I don't remember why I took pictures of them lol.On many of my other GSC figures I remove the Cult keychain, because I find it kind of stupid that every dude in the army would have one openly dangling somewhere. But all of these guys still have theirs, because they were sculpted over areas that are difficult to fuck around with, like the ribbed sections of GSC hazard suits.
>>97206486>I don't think I removed any details on these models and I don't remember why I took pictures of them lol.Thinking a little harder about it: the Venator Overlords and the GSC lasguns all use Tempestus Scions parts. The Scion heads on the Venators have the skulls and aquilas shaved off, and the hotshot lasguns on the GSC have the aquilas shaved off.
>>97206449They're decent and is the most popular gang in Necromunda. Yes you are not the only one thinking about playing as the police in a gang wars game.
>>97206440how would a cawdor find or afford a galvanic rifle and why would he care to shave off the trim?
>>97206726It's not a galvanic rifle
>>97206861that is clearly a galvanic rifleyou could have done the bare minimum and replaced the cylinder with a magazine but chose to make the trim the deciding factor of whether or not it's a galvanic rifle
>>97206890Not gonna go back and forth with bad faith cretins. You can scroll up to the very first posts that started this argument and see me say, "it's cool to modify a weapon and call it a generic version."
>>97206903ah so you are a hypocrite and lazy, got it
I have to say, having an M14 rifle style mag would actually look pretty dope. I guess you're an "ideas man" first and foremost. Which is ok, it's good to have aspirational creatives amongst the people who actually accomplish things.
>>97206903>shits an entire thread>gets call out>inmediatly diesTale old as time.
>>97207363>how do you do, fellow English speakers
>>97206440>>97206486They look good don't get me wrong and they'd mesh perfectly fine with my>he found it in a forgotten cache and used it as isphilosophy, but how does a cultist having a rare phobos pattern bolter make more sense than a cultist having an incredibly ubiquitous imperial lasgun with the aquila still on it?
>>97207413>being this new
>>97207430Anon is just a hypocrite. If anon actually did proper kitbashing as he claims, his models would not be using those bolters and the shaved off emblems would have been replaced by GSC symbols.Or he would have done the lore accurate thing and just deface and cut up the imperial eagle since GSC want to look like Imperials till the very end so shaving the eagle off would be a strange thing to do.
>>97194500Get all the heroes, get some dogs, hunters > marauders I think.
>>97207554>the shaved off emblems would have been replaced by GSC symbols.lmao do you work for GW Kraków?"Pointless insignia everywhere" is one of the worst elements of GW's modern house style. Except in one product line: Necromunda. Perhaps if you'd assembled Necromunda models you'd know that pretty much all gang weapons are generified.
>>97207612>post GSC>the one non necromunda model lineTalking about bad faith
https://mega.nz/folder/hGsU3LAQ#IJMEGYaqP3_PhsFpipZIYwBunch of warcry 2.0 scansIf anyone has any more to contribute I'll add them to the mega
Holy shit the MESBG dwarfs are so smol
>>97207588>hunters > marauders I thinkWhy's that? It seems like I should take 1 or 2 hunters to have a little range but marauders start with 4 WS
I'm new to Necromunda, and I want to create a gang using a combination of CSM Cultist and GSC Neophyte kits, maybe with some chaos mutations in there too in order to make them more chaos-aligned, along with opportunities for kitbashing and customisation - Helots didn't appeal to me gameplay-wise. Which of the following gangs would be best for a chaos-aligned Necromunda gang?>Orlock>OutcastsI was leaning towards Outcasts as the leader sounds fun to kitbash and customise, and then you can just have a horde of followers (like a cult leader and a horde of cultists). Thoughts?
>>97213315start with a normal gang.
>>97213315Orlock is all about SPEED and shotgun.You can't really make a chaos outcast gang RAW, but you can make a mutant outcast gang that look like they might worshiped the dark god.Mutant outcast is the strongest archetype for Outcast, with cheap cost can make a very strong early startup to compete with the top team. Mainly the "scaly skin" and "vast bulk" being the most powerful mutations, so normally you don't start a gang full of guy with just those 2 mutantion. You play mutant mostly for the modelling aspect. You might want a Chaos Spawn, or Accursed Cultists for the mutated bits.
>>97213346No.
>>97213346the only reason to start with a normal gang is if you don't want to do heavy conversions
>>97192355Fingers up orcs butts
>>97213315I'm finna be honest mang, u should b playing helots deadass u a bitch
>>97212901Are you aware that MESBG is in a different scale from WFB?
>>97212901>>97213718The lotr range is a different scale due to some copyright thing were the Tolkien estate gave GW the green light to create minis, but it had to be a different scale to make it stand out from regular warhammer.
>>97213727that's not really the reason. the mesbg stuff was always sculpted with more realistic proportions like historicals, but they used to be the same height as WHFB and 40k. it's just the mesbg stuff stayed the same size while the mainline games got scale crept to hell.
Is there a bookmarked PDF for warmaster Revolution? One on the site isn't, it's got one single bookmark in polish.
New necromunda book's out. Could someone give us the spoilers and confirm that the ongoing narrative is over?
>>97214794Fat Helmawr is back. Ozostium "I'll get you next time!" and fled.
>>97214931Who?
>>97173638Interested in learning blood bowl, do I need the starter set or can I just buy a team? I don’t want to drop too much money on it
>>97186914These are great, do you use washes or is this just layering?
>>97217294All you really need is a team, some dice and a pitch to play on. The templates are a convenience that you can just work without and the rules should be easy enough to find online.Even the dice, you don't really need any more than 3x D6 if you can translate the block results into numbers and the D12/D16 aren't needed for exhibition matches.
>>97217305Thanks. I do use washes but I often wonder if I should bother when I paint over most of the mini again anyway.
Continuing my WBFied Cursed City project. Mysterious objects and doors.
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>>97218229
Considering getting into Mordheim and getting some Orcs. I'm new, but I am aware that they're not necessarily an easy team and play counteractively to their WHFB equivalents in that you maybe prefer the Orcs to be ranged, and the Gobbos to be melee, if I've read the online advice right.2 questions:1. What is a good source for 80's style, and fairly modular Orcs?2. How should I be aiming to arm my starting roster? Since WYSIWYG seems to be so important, I want to make sure I'm equipping both suitably and accurately.
>>97214931Yeah, I was hoping for something more in depth I guess. Is Ozzy a necron or something else? I've heard some rumors that he's a space vampire
>>97177678One day, I will finish my MESBG stuff too.
I have a bunch of spare Drukhari and Corsairs bits sitting around and was thinking of building a gang out of them to get into Necromunda. Would Escher be a good fit to try and model with this, or would I be better off making an outcasts gang or another house? In my mind see them as a bunch of Drukhari fucking around with the gangs on Necromunda in what passes as fun for evil torture elves.
>>97219933Venators or Enforcers. Enforcers or Venators.
>>97219933Escher.Outcast doesn't have anything for DE venom and drug mechanics.
>>97219749In the last 24 hours I have cleaned, assembled and based my starting dwarven army for an escalation league. The start date being a few weeks away has galvanized me into action.
>>97219933What the fuck is a Drukhari?
I must be fucking retarded but I can't find shit for dark eldar BFG
>>97221410As in you can't find rules/images of the old models? Or you can't find alternative models for them now?
>>97219933Drukhari? No that's Dark Eldar son
>>97220134Very cool, I got an unfinished Dwarven lotr army as well, I really like the comfy dwarven rangers sculpts.
>>97221410>I must be fucking retarded but I can't find shit for dark eldar BFGThey weren't exactly a common release, they went mail-order only after about a year. If you mean the rules, they're all in Armada and magazines. I've been debating selling off my fleet because I haven't done shit with them anyway
>>97194515Cool dudes, nice kitbash. This is why I enjoy this hobby.
>>97221933I have the models from a random Ebay BFG lot I bought but were they even called Dark Eldar in that Armada supplement or just Eldar Corsairs? I can't even remember at this point and I refuse to walk the 10ft to go check my book case.
>>97222025Dark Eldar Raiders, there are only a couple of pages in Armada. There were some pretty beefy errata on their points values, rules, and gear, especially in the 2010 rules review.
>>97222099It was a pretty contentious time from memory. Eldar were rightly hated for their usual cheating bullshit which in this case was free column shift. And Necrons were disliked since they had some bullshit as well where if you weren't forcing them to Brace for Impact every turn you basically lost.
>>97222107The critical part about Necrons isn't the damage immunity, although that's annoying as shit. It's their ability to auto-disengage after inflicting a few losses and win without really playing at all. Likewise the Eldar Move-shoot-move haha you can't touch me thing got them much more flak than holofields, which is why nobody really hated on the DE. Holofields are just a check that keeps people from loading up on lances and ordnance all day, every day, and generally the Eldar column shift is mostly compensated for by their tiny batteries and absurd prices. I never had serious problems dealing with Eldar, especially in a campaign.
>>97222190Lances were still arguably one of the better ways to deal with Craftworld Eldar since despite getting a save it was still a 50/50 and they felt damage far more than other fleets. Free column shift was just annoying since it largely meant anything not point blank wasn't super useful.
>>97219677What's up with the tumblr OC donut steel levels writing the daughter has? Cunt found a super power spyre suit that fit her in some random dump? Da fuq? While other spyre suits need a lot of modification to even work.
>>97222517Neither of you has read the actual book, so why are you asking him this?
>>97222566You can respond too anon.
A proper Necromunda FAQ finally, with text so you can look up the words. Sky Mantle changed so retards can no longer claim to be permanent invisible.https://assets.warhammer-community.com/eng_22-12_necromunda_faqs-dxlobndhrz-rnas4scu2o.pdf
Come again, sir?
>>97221601I find all the MESBG dwarf sculpts very charming. The extra small scale relative to other GW games helps. They have helped me realize that I really prefer my miniatures to be miniature.
>>97222872"Tek" is the name of the ganger.
>>97221933Yeah I didn't mean rules. I meant models. Did a quick peek on Etsy and didn't see anything that fit the profiles either. Maybe I should give up and just nab some craftworld ships.
>>97222946Arcane Shipyard has good sculpts if 3d printing is an option. They are modular with variant prows for each weapon system and they have both escort and cruiser.https://cults3d.com/en/users/ArcaneShipyard/3d-models
There is a strange code at the bottom of pastebin file.What is this? How do I use it?
>>97222588I don't know why they bothered with errata for the Flamer/Man-catcher. It's the single worst weapon in the game and nothing they did changed it.Also, I guess if a Squat has a circular stone saw as their weapon besides their gun, they make unarmed attacks + circular stone saw. So cheap power pack weapons are overpriced on anyone with more than one attack, and the expensive ones are overpriced period.
>>97222566>Neither of you has read the actual bookYeah, and I don't intend to. A summary is fine. I'm just want to know what Ozzy and the previous rulers were. I know they're called "the iron lords" but I don't know what that entails. Cyborgs? Necrons? Guys who traded iron with other systems? Rulers who were though like iron?
>>97223250He'll be forgotten once the current writer jumped ship and the new one come in with his new fanfic.
Thats it, I am playing Spyre next time.
>>97220134I was elated that for christmas last year I was given so much till I realized the problem. As soon as I started taking Gondor knights off the sprue, who I actually play, that once I start taking things off the sprue and painting them I will then have to store them>rohan
>>97223428And I'm fine with that. I just want to know if there's any information in the new book or not.
>>97223473Have you considered magnets, metal sheets and a toolbox?
>>97223510Okay, what, making magnets, collecting magnets? Playing with magnets?
>>97223576You can put them underneath the bases of your horses and they'll stay stuck to the metal sheet underneath that you've glued to the box :^) it's a great storage and transport solution:^)
>>97223473This is something I considered when picking the Kingdom of Khazad Dum army as my first. The most finicky bits are the bows but relative to spears on the other factions that’s nothing for transport.
>>97223250>>97223250I haven't got the new book, but there's this page from one of the old 30k black books which has some info on them, sounds like cyborgs.
>>97223850Cool! Thanks
>>97223850Sounds like Necrons to me
>>97223510Yea I made a container for Gondor, the problem is more that its basically a dedicated container only for Rohan just for it to be put in storage becaue I dont play them. I have Isengard, goblins of Moria, Easterlings, Fellowship, Thorins company, warg riders and another box of minis tirith(I didnt even know I had another one). I was blessed, now its a pile of shame. I will finish this one day for a display.
>>97220134How do I get gud at removing mould lines and ESPECIALLY sprue nub marks quickly?
Was new necromunda pdf posted anywhere yet?
>>97222872Despite how that question appears the Tek-Hunters are limited to a total of 8 due to having a roster rule that limits a gang to only having 2 of each of the 4 kinds of Tek-Hunter. Regardless yes being able to purchase Specialists right out of the gate can be as broken as it sounds. Conceptually the idea was fine but the actual roster entry implications were poorly thought out and the result of trying to make the Secundus box contents a 'full gang'.
>>97223244>Also, I guess if a Squat has a circular stone saw as their weapon besides their gun, they make unarmed attacks + circular stone saw. So cheap power pack weapons are overpriced on anyone with more than one attack, and the expensive ones are overpriced period.It still isn't really clear about whether a PPW can be used as a normal Melee/Sidearm weapon. They are weapons as per their rules, but they have the special rule to be able to be used in addition to other weapons during close combat. This FAQ really didn't clarify any of that and just poorly conveyed that when being used as PPW for extra attacks that it is just one attack with that PPW profile. Going off the actual Power Pack trait they are still a weapon and thus eligible for normal use, but it can also be used in addition to other weapons. If this wasn't the intent then it would be 'must/only' not 'can' in regards to usage.
Have you heard of the dark elves?
>>97224245cut the gates reasonably close with your side cutter and then just give it a little scrape with the edge of your knife until it's smooth. for tricky tight spots you can use a needle file.
>>97224245Mostly scraping with the back of an xacto/hobby knife (the dull side). For the metal mould lines I use jewelers files and the nubs I use the nips.
>>97225211Thankfully, Specialists don't have blanket trading post access, and the Tek-Hunter gear list is somewhat more limited than the regular Van Saar specialist one, so you're not getting nine dudes with plasma guns off the bat, thankfully.
>>97226994They aren't Gangers that promoted to Specialists, their profile is just Specialist from the start. And that profile includes being able to get weapons from the TP with no restrictions on weapon class. So sure you won't have 8 Plasma Guns at gang creation, but you could give all of them whatever Special/Heavy weapons you can afford from the TP from the first visit. On top of that they also have the VS Tech skills as Secondary. All this for just 10 creds more than a standard VS Ganger. Their roster entry is ridiculous.
>>97222879Yes I find them very charming as well, the lotr movies got me into the hobby to begin with so they will always be special to me.
>>97227154I’ve fallen in love after doing the base coats on one. I still need to highlight but I am a big fan of how they look painted. Them being so small really helps.
>>97227154>>97228090
Just joined a necromunda campaign and looking for some advice about initial upgrades/purchasesI've got a venators list with:Leader (ranged, wyrd)2 beastman champs with frenzon collars4 gangers with grenade launcher, combat shotgun, 2 lasgunsWhat are some decent territories and purchases to aim for as an opener - I've heard settlement and anything that lets me buy gear at discounted prices is good.I'm thinking that priority will be getting armour (at least mesh+/-undersuit) is the first thing. After that, gangers with boltguns and stuff e.g. grapnels, heavy weapons.Thoughts?Also, are there any decent ways to bump armour saves for cheap. Ceramite shields seems good but will probably need a grapnel launcher to offset the speed issues.
>>97228255>bump armour saves for cheapceramite shield ain't cheap. If you need more armor buy ablative overlay.
>>972282551. You need more bodies not to get ruined by a bad bottle roll. At least 9-10.2. Frenzon collars are busted as hell unless you houserule them to at least need "frenzon charges" after each use.3. That's my personal autism, but I think that grapnel launchers used to travel purely horizontally, on ground level, are kinda silly, but you do you.>>972284114. Ablative overlay are EXTREMELY gay and should be banned. Not only they are extra bookkeeping, they are also a no-brain purchase.
>>97228090>>97228094And after some highlighting. Still learning how to blend and highlight but I think overall the colors work well with each other. The brass is warm enough that the grey base I plan on using ( to simulate an underground environment ) probably won’t make the overall tone too cold.
>>97228255how the hell do you have so few models?my starting venator gang has basically the same roster but with an added ogryn champ + arc welder and one of the gangers is a shooting champion with a long rifle
About necromunda...is there anything close to one box army in a similar way to the one box team in BB or some kill teams? Or would I need several of the same box?
>>97229341if you have a bits box with a few weapons and you're ok with magnetizing or snapping of arms every few games to put in better weapons, a single box is all you need.
>>97229374Thanks! Any tips on youtube channels that focus on necromunda?
>>97229419I usually watch Necrorundown, but maybe it's a bit too gameplay focused, remember necromunda is the game where you fuck around.
>>97229341Most gang boxes except cawdor make you a workable gang 2bh, Id usually pick up another box as and when I needed them during a campaign.I never found weapons changed frequently enough to warrant magnetizing hands and shit, I just used a second box to make new leaders when needed.>>97229419I like wellywood 2bh
>>97229419I like the miniature game montage battle reports since he actually puts a bit more effort into them to make them seem narrative even though I'm pretty sure it's just a dad and his kid playing multiple gangsthe other big necromunda youtubers are too obsessed with click bait and tier lists
>>97221939thanks, I've been mainly painting them but here's an extra dude I made out of boredom
>>97228500I like it!
>>97222025Eldar Corsair were the common name for the standard Eldar fleet.
>>97231057Wait so Craftworld Eldar was a different fleet then? God damn it has been so long since I looked at the BFG rulebook, Armada, or any of the Specialist magazines. That does remind me I still have a whole Ork fleet still in the packaging I should get around to building.
What base size should I use for giant rats in Necromunda?
>>97231543Yes. In the Gothic sector they were mostly dealing with pirates and outcasts rather than a serious fleet, at least until Ulthwe' got involved (and fucked it up). Craftworlders in general, Yriel of Iyanden specifically (for scenario reasons), regular ol' Pirates/Corsairs, and Dark Eldar all had their own fleets. Interestingly, Corsairs could use allied Dark Eldar ships relatively freely and vice versa, but Craftworlders had to jump through hoops to use Corsair ships at all and couldn't touch DE at all.Craftworld Eldar are a bit tougher than Corsair ships and MUCH more heavily-armed. No battleships, modular weapons on their cruisers, and semi-modular escorts plus the option for Ghost Ships. There are also unofficial rules for a Craftworld on the table and a scenario for fighting one, which is a nightmare.
>>97231710This is all sounding more and more familiar the more you tell me. A good part of why I don't remember, besides this being like 2 decades ago, would be that as a non-Eldar player if you put all 3 kinds of Eldar side by side I couldn't tell the difference.
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>>97232025Yeah I've got a whole fleet of those Dark Eldar ones from a random BFG lot I got from ebay. Also have a bunch of unbuilt Ork ships, which I think was a combo of ebay and direct from Specialist. And a SM fleet in various stages of built/painted which was also from Specialist. And a couple unbuilt Grey Knight Strike Cruisers and the little Thunderhawk stands from FW I think.
>>97232077Thats alot of minis. And nice that they are originals, not meaning 3d printed are bad.
>>97231942The Craftworld ships were kind of a callback to the Space Fleet ones.>>97232077>>97232591I've got an absolute shitload of BFG stuff, it was my favorite game GW made besides 1e Necromunda. I scratchbuilt some Grand Cruisers and Voss light cruisers with standard prows, and another Voss light cruiser with Chaos parts. Among a *lot* of other shit.
>>97232655one of my old fleet shots. The Emperor-class from Space Fleet is standing in as the Voss battery cruiser, and that weird Chaos ship is a scratchbuilt Bulk Freighter/landing ship we were using for a scenario
>>97232671and a shameful shot of some unpainted escorts with one of the Grand Cruiser builds.
Someone as the PDFs that followed the apocrypha? Was kinda out of the game for a moment.
>>9723168925mmhttps://www.warhammer.com/en-CA/shop/Cawdor-Bomb-Delivery-Rats-2019
>>97231689There is no official model for the Giant Rat option for Beastmasters, so just use whatever fits the model you actually have. Otherwise probably go with 32mms given what other mid-sized Exotic Beasts tend to be on. Lorewise a Giant Rat is basically supposed to be as big as a dog.
>>97231689>>97233450Actually scratch that, there is an official model for them.https://www.warhammer.com/en-AU/shop/outland-beastmaster-w-wastelnd-giant-rat-2024?queryID=bb6c2c761e01491fbe673a56fd78e261So 40mm if you are wanting to keep in line with that. But people probably won't split hairs if you have a smaller model that looks better on a smaller base.
>>97233450>There is no official model for the Giant Rat option for Beastmastersis it not justhttps://www.warhammer.com/en-US/shop/necromunda-giant-rats-2024
>>97233468Yeah I decided to check after I had already posted. I didn't actually recall the Giant Rat Beastmaster getting a kit. But I wasn't aware there was an actual pack of just the rats either which you posted.
For anyone that plays Squats what are some decent/fun loadouts for Exo-Masters? Got a few spare Exo bodies in my coming build that I can go wild with and looking for conversion ideas. Already have the regular options covered so looking for interesting ideas that could be built up via TP weapons/gear. I already have a few of these made up like a dual Lightning Claw w/Hand Flamer, and Harpoon Launcher with hook(ish) IH Powerfist hand. So looking for other odd ideas to build.
finished my starting venatorsnow I gotta actually name them
>>97231689What models are you using? Use whatever base size fits the models.
With 11 down, the gnomes are officially (if just barely) ready for a game. Will definitely need to do a few more linemen to have a bench, but 11 is a big milestone, so yay.
>>97233550Pretty cool, where are the lads' heads from?
>>97233478Nigga there's a beastmaster with a giant rat and the two separate rats posted shut yo goofy ass mouth nigga you embarrassing
>>97233417>>97233450>>97233465Thank you anons.>>97233557I ordered some custom ones so I wasn't totally sure.
>>97232655That kitbash looks weird. Not bad, just like a deformed Egg-Plane.>>97232671Does the ships belong to a special Imperial Order?>>97232676I still have some unpainted too. Hapoens.
>>97222190Eldar were ok. They are like glass cannons. I always lost with them. You have to do alot of good planning where your ships end at your turn.Necrons are kinda fluff correct but for a game overpowered. But later armies are very under developed. The big problem is that most games end in who destroyed how many ships.
>>97231689Giant rats do not have an official model or base size. Ash wastes giant rats are a different profile, and bomb rats are also a separate thing. 25mm or 32mm would be the sensible choice. If someone brought an Ash wastes giant rat to our games and called that 40mm fatso a 'necromundan giant rat', with its 4+ invulnerable and 'small target' special rule, I'd just tell him to fuck off.
>>97234892Cute Tomcat
>>97236591I'll have enough giant rats to do both 25 and 32 so I think that should be okay.
>>97234931Yeah, a really good Eldar player is incredibly frustrating to fight and a bad one is fucking mulch pretty much the instant they cross the 40cm line. In a campaign it gets interesting because Eldar are by default one of the "raider" enemies so they usually only show up in low-points scenarios. In those they can be really mean.>>97234892>That kitbash looks weird. Not bad, just like a deformed Egg-Plane.It's basically a couple sanded-down launch bays, a heavy flamer, a leftover bridge, and some tank accessory bits mounted on a piece of square plastic tubing with a sculpted prow. I made it as an Ordo Hereticus CL to go with my Grey Knight strike cruiser. It's about the same size as that, but a good bit more delicate-looking than the Dauntless or the original Vosses. It's not the weirdest bash I did, either. Unfortunately pic related got smashed in the move when I got out of the Navy, but I suspect you can see what I was going for.>do the other ships belong to a special Order?I had pools of ships done up in three different liveries (blue/grey, red/grey, and purple/white) so I could quickly represent which ships were being fielded from Reserve fleets. In general the blues are the oldest ships, using a standard battle-line with the Grand Cruiser and an Emperor-class. The white-purple are a few Armageddon-fleet loaners, and the red are an expeditionary fleet including a Rogue Trader and some xenos allies. It was also useful if I wanted to do a quick demo with loaner fleets - the reds and the blues both had a completely viable cruiser and escort force at 1k points, so I could do mid-sized games without having to worry about teaching the difference between Imp and Chaos at the same time. In general I find that no matter which side a new player takes in an Imp/Chaos fight, they feel like the other one is "cheesy". It's a lot easier to teach with mirror for the first couple fights and then show off the subtle differences when the newbie is ready to branch out.
>>97233550Very nice also love the tiny skull head big guy
>>97233468>>97233450>>97231689Didn't the old skaven ogre box come with giant rats?Anvilindustry sells some rats also
>>97238688There have been more than a few Giant Rat models released throughout the decades, but anon was specifically asking about base size from N23. Arguably 17/23 is largely base agnostic but officially they have had a Giant Rat model released on 40mm which is in line with most Exotic Beast which tend to be 32-40mm.
