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How is there a vampire in Lorwyn Edition

>Bans
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>Previously
>>97168730

>TQ
Is Lorwyn Eclipsed gonna be good or bad?
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Cool card.
Way too expensive, but cool.

Lorwyn looks good to me so far. Looking forward to drafting it. Been saving up, since I haven't played any UBslop.
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Lorwyn Eclipsed (ECL)
Released 2026-01-23

>>97176697
Were there vampires in the previous Lorwyn sets?
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>>97176087
>They do not care AND they are idiots.
Yes, this is becoming clearer every day. WoTC have been the worst custodians of this game imaginable.
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Premodern prices on MTGO has got to be the greediest thing I've ever seen
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>>97176714
this nigga loves deaf owls and trans vampires with down syndrome
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>>97176697
>Is Lorwyn Eclipsed gonna be good or bad?
Worse. It's gonna be d&d slop full of technicolour races that are all the same.
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This shit any good? Very good in draft, of course, but in standard?
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Anyone play against this guy before? Currently running the clock down lol
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>>97176697
>How is there a vampire in Lorwyn
we've known how for actual years, op
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>>97176796
We now have TWO cards showing strixhaven students in lorwyn and we've seen less than 30 cards. Is this their way of saying omenpaths are the new way of doing "blocks" over multiple planes?
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>>97176697
God, I miss old magic. Ravenous Baloth. Black Knight. Rancor. All of those bastards.
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>>97176801
Harry Potter fucks running around WHERE IS MISTMEADOW JACK
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>>97176801
>is this their way of saying omenpaths are the new way of doing "blocks" over multiple planes?
again, we've known this for LITERAL years
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>>97176817
Based. Do they still include books with fatpacks or is that a thing of the past?
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>>97176820
They didn't neatly lead into the next set quite like this before
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>>97176821
>Do they still include books with fatpacks or is that a thing of the past?
The last fatpack to include a novel was Eventide's, in 2008

where the fuck are you people (like >>97176801)
popping up from
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>both Premodern youtube channels I watch put out a video today after barely having any for months
Premodern leagues have been another win for Magic I guess
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>>97176792
Went up against him again lol
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>>97176828
At least it ended on a good note. On Shadowmoor, really loved the short story format. I can't remember his name, but the story of the cinder fucking up dozens of treefolk before getting snuffed was cool as hell.
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reminder that this card is broken
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>>97176860
I remember playing Shadowverse back in the mid to late 2010s. I got to their highest level even broke the top 1000 once on their leaderboards for whatever that is worth. There was a new set every couple months and new cards that would always be just better than the old cards. So you had to basically put more and more money in every month. They also had a lot of cross promos and anime cards in their game from other series. It all felt very commercial. Like the soul of the game was being sucked out and fucked for money.

I thought to myself. I'm glad magic would never sell out like this. I'm glad they've solved power creep at least a little bit. But here we are. Every couple months the next power creep happens, then the next, all to make the line go up. It can only go up so far until people lose interest and just like me with shadowverse they never play again.
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>>97176697
Every set takes us closer to a reality where traditional deckbuilding focused on card advantage and making hard choices is completely dead in every single format. WotC has made it very clear that if an older card in a format brings out problematic design elements of newer cards, they'll ban the old card to maintain their new agenda for the games playstyle. It's not about wizards casting spells to them, it's a creature dick measuring contest game. Creatures used to just be one part of a larger variety of strategies and compromises. Now there's no compromise because creatures are simply the best, and their supporting permanents can be even more broken because without a statline, at this point, a card can cost anything and do anything for any amount of mana. The power nine are barely fucking impressive at all and in a pre-FIRE modern deck, would be almost completely useless against the sheer value of a current year modern deck or standard deck.
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>>97176763
Yeah, it's a 2/4 creature tutor for 2 and green. Plus the untapping something for a 1 and a tap isn't bad as well.
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Gran gran status?
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>>97176880
you'll hear from my lawyer
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>>97176880
heartless acts has been committed against her all weekend.
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>>97176896
Thankfully I got her a nice buddy her age, guided himself into her canyon and tapped her so she'd be turned on.
CAPTCHA:MANXYW
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The time is nigh.

Come back to Premodern, /tg/.
Come back home.
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>>97176842
Forgot to screenshot but in the next game, I cast guru, grabbed octopus form, then next turn he tried to kill spell gran gran when I had mana up, and went on another rant about my cheating when I used octopus form.
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>>97176719
No. Vampires are transformed humans and one of lorwyns unique features was that it didn't have humans.

The story of lorqyn eclipsed is that strixhaven students are taking an excursion there leading into the strixhaven set at the end of the year.
The focus is the strixhaven students with lorwyn as a backdrop for their conflicts
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>>97176860
>>97176869
Am I getting baited? How is that card broken?
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>>97176994
Gay as fuck. Ironically the stories were much more interesting when blocks were entirely their own self contained stories.
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Firebending works kinda nicely with foretell also. Hmm
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>>97176869
>my pay to win game was good when it was cheap, but bad when it's expensive :(

just print proxies, play with friends, have fun
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>>97177296
Not really what he said at all. Sometimes, especially when I see a thought out post, I wish the replies actually added to the conversation. Instead its reddit gotchas
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>>97177296
How did you pull that message from that post?
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>>97176697
boy i hate omenpaths
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>>97176994
>The focus is the strixhaven students with lorwyn as a backdrop for their conflicts
I've read through the first two sections and am part of the way through the third and this is accurate. It's a very painful read and the first time I've read an MTG story since they were in books form with fat packs.
I hate the students. They are painfully stupid with small, pointless lives and goals. Everything feels like a bad collaboration event story where Lorwyn characters and places are merely backdrops for the characters to walk across on the way to their next destination. The brief moments where the students are off screen are better I suppose, but it still has not elevated itself to a passing grade.
If I could nit-pick further, the descriptions are very poor and fixate on the wrong subjects. Is this really the best they could do?
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>>97177013
>>97175191
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I've checked prices on singles for TLA and the only cards carrying this set are the badger and the owl

what a flop
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>>97176697
I liked Lorwyn's weird one off creatures. Which were your favorite?
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>>97176842
Hi Deku_Justice
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>>97177357
sweet jesus that is amazing art
thanks for posting it, never seen before
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>>97177357
I wonder why they named this imp Dieflyn. Apparently its an archaic spelling of Dublin which means black pool. Seems like a name better suited for a black/blue card.
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>>97176821
>>97176828
Erhm, I think you mean "Packages of size". Your language affects people, be responsible with it!
We call them "bundles" now, anythoeverwaybeit.
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>>97176860
Yes, all the pros got it wrong at worlds. They all missed the power of that card. Once it's power is discovered in standard it's only a matter of time for it to warp other formats like modern and legacy. I'd buy copies now, but I'm sure it will be banned once everyone finds out what you know about the card.
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>>97177364
Isn't black pool just a tarpit? Flaming oil is definietly BR
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>>97177391
Black pool refers to dark waters like Douglas refers to dark river. I don't think there are any tar rivers.
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>>97177312
>>97177320
Sorry, I didn't read the post properly.
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>>97176763
Doubt it.
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>>97177391
Flame on
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>>97176994
>strixhaven students are in the front, with lorwyn as the backdrop
So you can say, Lorwyn has been... Eclipsed
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>>97177455
Don't worry the students will be eclipsed by the Fomori and Oko, the previous fairy queen's secret brother.
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>>97177374
This but unironically, the "pros" are too busy shilling, insider trading with wotc and just copy decklists to have something decent to play.
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Anyone with time to waste care to take a look at my WIP Vintage Cube for the boys?

Definitely taking suggestions for the last 36 cards too if you have any. I haven't played since Mirrodin so I don't know shit.
Most of this is from lists already online of cards that do what my friends say they like(d) about Magic.
Don't worry about the specific versions, that's just what CubeForge defaulted to. Except the Godzillas. I put those on purpose.
https://pastebin.com/h0i3M8iN
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>Firebender ascension copy trigger can trigger multiple times in one turn after 4 counters, and retrigger the attack triggers which can trigger the quest counter again which can trigger the copy ability again
>it can copy every attack trigger from every creature that is attacking and has an attack trigger
>with firebending you literally get fucktons of free mana to cast other spells like extra combats to keep triggering FiAs copy trigger at least twice, granting you even more mana to keep casting spells
>paired with Great Train Heist and draw spells you can practically end the game in one turn with one attacking creature
>add other type of card that can copy spells
>add bolts and removal
>you got peak solitaire
it's just mouse-cori red cancer all over again
you just can't close the game on t2 anymore
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The balance of this game is in shambles, and you have to remember will be even worse with more sets next year.
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>>97176714
>butterface, girlboss pose, fat

Can't we go back to the old, more impressionist art style? New cards look like they based them off real people, ugly ones at that.
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>>97177644
>fat
what
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>>97177013
There is a resident retard who defines himself by his inability to evaluate cards.
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>>97177495
Any card that you have to jump through hoops to play is worse then one you don't. Isshin, Two Heavens As One does what Firebender Ascension does without needing FOUR ATTACK TRIGGERS to work at all, and guess what? Completely unplayable in every format.
Your card is shit. On the turn it comes down, it's just giving you a 2/2 with nothing else, it forces deckbuilding restrictions by needing lots of creatures with attack triggers, it's takes fucking forever to get online and you have to play a bunch of creatures that suck ass on their own for it to do anything. It's a commanderbait card, nothing more.
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Phew, i was worried that we'd be missing a few transwalker here and there, thanks Maro for affirming their stance!
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>>97177740
Why are you on Tumblr
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>>97177744
Why is Mark
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>>97177746
Because he's a fag. Are you?
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>>97177750
I don't know about the fag requirement to be on tumblr. But I trust you, fagxpert, on fag matters like this.
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>>97177751
You're also worried about shit like male to female planeswalker ratios, Magic's 'lore' and write deranged brainrot like "transwalker" so I'd say you've got a good grip on fag matters. Have some confidence.
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>drop Firebender asc turn 2
>won't be able to stop dropping triggers until turn 3
>will get maybe 3 triggers then assuming everything goes perfectly
>reach turn 4
>"I cast my Zombify targeting Valgavoth"
>die
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>>97177718
It's definitely a 21st century look, a little pudge basically everywhere. It's a shame we aren't really getting fantasy art anymore. At best its cosplay art
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>>97177740
Its a great time to be a hater, many things suck and many people are stupid
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>>97177765
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>>97177644
Personally I think it is a great win for diversity & inclusion that even blind people like you can enjoy magic. (Or at least could at some point in time)
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>>97177740
Translation https://youtu.be/Ex64iz-4UKA?si=0CzcPREWcuzDTaCg
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>>97177791
If you played this t1 it is literally impossible for you to get triggers t2 because it needs a lesson in the grave, dumbass
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>>97177778
Are we getting to the point where we see a woman with big tits and thighs for days and call it "a 21st century look"
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>>97177824
Women being good looking is a conspiracy made by incels to oppress the god's chosen, didn't you know that?
Everytime you touch a boob a jew gets intestinal bleeding.
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"Women! Watch at least 4 hours of netflix per day, only have one night stands and chug down antidepressants with wine. Don't forget the mandatory 10 hours of instagram, very important."
-Karl Marx
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>>97177819
Street wraith lesson when?
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>>97177878
Just wait for the naruto set where sheldon cooper cums inside hinata's ass while spock pulls her nipples.
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>>97177890
Very hot
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>>97177824
No, she has a phenotype that I see in real life on a daily basis.
It looks like it could have been a world champ card.
This is certainly no saffi... well I mean the original printing... the new saffi art actually exemplifies the problem well.
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>>97177873
Wait...
Are we unironically living in fahrenheit 451?
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>>97177910
Thank you, urza is an autistic incel and he will get defeated by spongebob, patrick and squidward—Discard a card (lore canon).
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>>97177936
Not really. They haven't invented giant spiderscorpion mechs yet.
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>>97177740
Good thing that there are gender quotas for desparking, it's really important!
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>>97177949
Well march of the machines is not canon so whatever, anything happened after eldritch moon is hasbro fanfiction.
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>I turned myself into a pickl...into a 5G tower and then got defeated by the power of empathy in an afternoon, then wakanda happened and the white incels got defeated forever and ever and everyone lived happily ever after
>yawgmoth? who the fuck is that schizo? urza? what the fuck is unc yappin about :skull:
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>>97177945
I don't remember anything about that in the book.
Seems like a thing that would be hard to forget.
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>>97177990
yawgmoth was an incel though, literally
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>>97178006
It's when the protagonist runs away from the regime. They have an eighth legged robot mech that shoots out needles with a lethal amount of anaesthetic to hunt down people who have books and they send it after him
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>>97178020
Oh yeah, for some reason I thought of them as humanoid
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>I died offscreen because I slipped on a banana peel, and then the patriarchy was no more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa-ZIXJdDW4
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>>97178042
But New Phyrexia was a matriarchy
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>>97178057
Instant ramen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc_QjKyzf4Y
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>>97178020
It especially annoyed me how the adaptation made it a robot dog. It's easily the coolest part of the setting
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Perfect Girl
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>>97178092
I can fix them.
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>>97176860
Commander player post
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>>97176714
SHE MAKES ME SO HARD
MTG ISNT SUPPOSED TO BE A COOMER GAME
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Is this the one and only ub card that doesn't have dogshit art? It stood out to me.
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>>97177990
>>97178042
What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>97178333
>Iroh doesn't have Firebending
F L A V O R
F A I L
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>>97177718
>>97177824
Compare this >>97176714
To this >>97176737
>>97177357
>>97177644
Beauty standards clearly have trended in the direction of chubbier since the mid 2000s. Dont get me wrong I wouldn't turn down a slampig, but I also wouldn't want my gf/wife to look like that forever.
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>>97176714
That's a dude. White Guilt-leaf's new beauty standard is trans.
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>>97178333
ATLA does have a few cards with that old school feel
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>>97178341
>he was not around when pinkertons were intimidating wives and smashing down doors
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>>97177740
This game is so fucking hard to quit hopefully this shit sucks really bad or is overt enough to finally push me out
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>>97177765
Hey man you're an aggro deck, you should have plenty of ways to sacrifice 3 nonland permanents.

Ahhhh shit you put all your cards into burn and pump spells? That sucks real hard brah. Guess that kicker 4 damage ain't doing shit.
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>>97178434
Every time I hear this story it gets more extreme
What actually happened?
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>>97178469
just a sec, let me dig my folder to show you how I won this exact scenario
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>>97178480
The kidnapped and tortured the guy in a blacksite.
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>>97178483
>>97178480
Here we go.
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>>97178480
Wotc sent the pinkertons disguised as police to a guy's house, they waited until he went to work to bang on the door and tell his wife he had stolen goods or something inside his house and if she didn't open the door she would have been sued for millions (it was an excuse because if she willingly opened the door then they would have been legally allowed to enter the building), she opened the door and they entered the house, wiped clean his laptop and destroyed the (dogshit) cards he got shipped by wotc's mistake.
All that for a set that was so shit now wizards shamefully pretends it doesn't even exist.
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>>97178504
Shoulda sent the cards to get graded lol
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>>97177644
the card you posted looks like lord farquad with tits mate you are not a good authority on good looking art in cards
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>>97178534
The point is style not execution
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>>97178495
His fault for not running removal.
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>>97178545
>butterface, girlboss pose, fat
None of those are styles. Maybe the pose.
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>>97178545

the point is dicks, implied
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>>97178568
Anon was saying he wanted more impressionism
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>>97176714
This is 1000% modeled after some OF thot
Ive seen that face before i just cant remember which casting couch
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>>97178571
?
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>>97178573
Impressionism has nothing to do with those complaints anon listed.
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>>97178588
Be that as it may you are still intentionally missing the point it seems
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>>97178586
Not the first time it happens, a nami skin from league of legends had the same exact face of a chaturbate whore, no it was not tidecallernami (a real bitch), it was another whore I can't quite remember the name now since she's been offline for more than 15 years.
And I've seen this shit happen in other instances.
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>>97178610
No, you're missing the point.
>New cards look like they base them off real people
A significant aspect of impressionism was that they looked more like real scenes than idealized versions. At best it's a huge misunderstanding of impressionism, at worst it's a cowardly attempt to mask your real complaints with something that sounds more agreeable. Just look up "impressionism nude" and you'll see pages of fat butterfaces (poses vary). If your issue with the art is that she isn't fuckable enough, at least have the spine to say it out loud.
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>>97178641
more like real people, not necessarily real scenes*
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>>97178504
Ao they hired private detectives to retrieve their property instead of resorting to costly lawsuits and this is bad... why exactly?

You don't own something just because it gets missent to you.
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>>97178651
I know you're trolling because you're a dumb fag but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to pretend you're the police to trick people into opening the door on top of that.
And the cards got spoilered like 18 hours later.
>You don't own something just because it gets missent to you.
Based and WEFpilled.
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>>97177357
Overbeing of myth, I will always love the flavor of the UG cards of eventide.
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I'm still hoping Chippy comes back, if only as a one-of.
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>>97178675
Did they pretend to be police or did the wife just not realize they were private detectives?
>WEFpilled
Are you a teenager fresh off the boat from pol? No you dont own something just because its missent to you. The adult world does not operate on your playground rules of finders keepers. Taking mail intended for someone else is THEFT. Sounds like you are the one doing the trolling because you are on some personal crusade against a card game.
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>>97178651
>You don't own something just because it gets missent to you.
In the US, as long as you're the intended recipient you actually do own it. Even if they wrongfully sent something they didn't intend. It's only when the label is for someone else that it's considered theft. I know that's not what happened here, but still.
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>>97177644
lmfao I can't stop laughing at this post
If that art was revealed as is today, it'd 100% be 99 posts calling it a man
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>>97178705
They specifically disguised as police and you will never be a woman.
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>>97178708
He thinks he's a woman, do you think you can use logic with him?
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>>97178697
I want to believe
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>>97178750
>>97178739
>muh trannies
Not arguments

>>97178739
As long as they didn't claim to be police it doesn't matter how they looked, without a warrant you dont have to let anyone in.

>>97178708
Again you dont know the law, we dont operate on finders keepers principle. They retrieved stolen property instead of suing him. Thats all there is to it. End of discussion.
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>>97177359
See I don’t even care beyond some anon (not you) losing his gourd if I don’t censor every single name in a screenshot but I always forget one for myself lol
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>>97177791
Shame they didn't go with the original version of the art.
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>>97178686
>at the beginning of your draw step, draw a card

Umm, I was going to do that anyway, but thanks for the reminder text I guess?
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just realized a really nice interaction between these two.

you can nuke your opponent's board while only pinging yours for 1 at instant speed
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>>97179210
more abstract
I can still vaguely tell what it is supposed to be
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>>97179257
Yeah, Fated Firepower is cool, but it is really not worth it to run in 60 card formats
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>>97179268
i disagree
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>>97179287
bro you're literally going up against a starter deck
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>>97179292
otters more your speed?
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>>97179306
I'm literally just seeing two tier fifteen decks versus each other. Your opponent literally has jill just because it's his waifu on board for god's sake
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>>97179287
>going beyond t3
that's your mistake
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>>97179315
>two tier fifteen decks versus each other.
that's real magic
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>airbending is mid
>earthbending is bad
>waterbending is eh
>firebending is the only thing that can somewhat keep up with the current game
It's going to be another year of fire

i can't with this game anymore
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>>97179427
BUT THE MOLE
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>>97179433
Cumandamara staple
too slow for real mtg
it dont count
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Haven't been about in a wee while, is the guy who was posting that boros chainsaw deck still about? Did you settle on a list you were happy with? Was thinking about trying it out.
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>>97177364
Why does this cost 4 mana?
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>>97179491
Flying in red used to be rarer than a woman in a tourney.
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>>97179427
>>97179450
>earthbending is bad
>too slow for real mtg
bro earthbending is by far the most powerful of the four abilities and badgermole cub has been putting in work in standard, pioneer, modern and legacy
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>>97179502
Haven't phoenixes and dragons been around for a hot minute though?
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>>97179427
you are a zero iq nigger it's literally earth > air > water > fire as far as meta cards are concerned
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>>97179521
A mono-red flier for 3 mana or less without some drawback used to be practically unheard of.
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>>97178413
Actually, she gives no fucks about pronoun shit.
I'm not kidding. There's a part in the story where she argued with the OP pic about the latter's pronouns, and she doesn't give a fuck that he's a "they/them."
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>>97176925
You did sign up for lobstercon premodern anon? It only sold out in 90 seconds.
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>>97178651
>Their property
No, it was his. He paid for a product, and WotC sent it to him.
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>>97178651
you don't get it wotc is literally pure ontological evil and only neonazi fascist chuds like mtg and d&d!!
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>>97177857
> Everytime you touch a boob a jew gets intestinal bleeding.
Chat is this true? Does it work on my own boobs!?
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>>97179684
He specifically said "Women"
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I want Dawson's Creek Secret Lair
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>>97179689
Im trans does that count? I still have a weiner and balls but i tuck them in and my huge bush hides it.
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>>97176737
mtgo is an easy attack vector for market manipulators, look into the pauper playable commander cards and despair.
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>>97178418
Meh. I don't see it.
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>>97176714
>>97178319
Engineered hype.



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