How do you guys like this game? I’ve read a good chunck of the setting and there are some problems;> “Everything is fucked…except only the inner rim because the gay space communism in the rim is great”> consistent dark text on dark background > HEAVY crunchI’ve mitigated a bit by using the FATE system conversion and making the setting a bit more nuanced but outside of those the setting seems rather unique. And given it’s all basically free it’s a good deal even with the “in your face” nature of the politics. But what do you fa/tg/uys think?
I'd rather read a game by a commie than by a centrist neoliberal.
>>971781361e or 2e? I think it has great ideas but is ultimately ruined by le singularity monsters and ayys
>>97178152That’s fine, but when it’s overly obnoxious to the point of undermining the point of the game it’s detrimental. Even a game like Disco Elysium made by the most theory thumping tanky can realize the flaws inherent in a system. Compounding that with a near extinction level event and persistent problems with other factions and its a shame to not also make the obvious decentralized nature of varying groups a Boone and detriment in the setting (sure you’ll be all for one one for all when a major polity rolls in, but you’re #1 target for criminals who don’t want to mess with the big boys)
>>97178203That's actually a really interesting point. Thanks anon!
>>97178136That art vividly reminded me of pic related. And now I wish Starfinder were good.
>>97178194Transhumanity’s FATEBasically a conversion for the system to a more narrative one
>>971781361e has good ideas and decent presentation, but mechanical part is kinda fucked. Both because you can see that authors did not have much experience with RPG games and because they didn't do their research properly on the technological/biological parts of the setting. And the further away you go from simple ground pounding the worse it gets - infantry level is okayish if barely, go a little bigger and shit gets wonky, starships and anything at that scale is better relegated to background and not even talked about because its completely fucked. >>97178268I'd better have Dragonstar back. The only things I remember about Starfinder is that its initial setting fluff was so toothless it was hard to find where you wanted to set your adventures, unless you wanted to play a new power trying to take over this whole shitshow, and that its starship rules were completely and utterly irredeemable.
>>97179151Whoa, what's Dragonstar? That sounds awesome
really cool settingreally cool ideasgay devsshit convoluted mechanics
>>97179321Dargonstar is a third party D&D setting by Fantasy Flight Games. It's basically D&D in SciFi Space (as opposed to Spelljammer's Fantasy Sapce).The TL;DR is that there's a galactic empire ruled by dragons (they take turns), and the throne is currently occupied by a Red Dragon.Image unrelated.
>>97179373Damn, nice. I'll have to check it out!
>>97179321It's an old 3e/3.5 third party setting about galactic dragon empire and some of its neighbors. Basically dragons are the most powerful guys around, who a lot of the time took over the worlds in the galaxy before going to space. Spaceships level the playing field but now dragon longevity, intellect and magic are playing the main role still allowing them to stay in power. After going to space they engage in multiple interstellar conflicts that do serious damage to their hoards and finally decide that its isn't working. So they organize into an empire with position of the head honcho rotating through dragon houses with each staying in power for a thousand years. By the time of the canon timeline black dragon replaces the previous metallic ruler and is way more expansionist in his aspirations.So you have a dragon empire controlling a good chunk of the galaxy with dragon houses dividing it between themselves and while open combat between them is incredibly rare deniable raids and low level skirmishing are normal, plus politics, grudges, normal noble squabbles and so on. There are imperial legions that work on expanding the empire, not-KGB stuffed by hot drow girls and loyal to the new emperor, illithid dominion starting to friction with the farther edge of dragon empire expansion and a lot of smaller planets and interstellar nations that try to survive in that shitshow. Oh, and one of the options for PC start is explorators who go around mapping the galaxy and looking for good things dragon empire can conquer or loot.
>>97179437That is actually fucking awesome. What are the kobolds doing in this? Dragon lackeys?
>>97179151>Both because you can see that authors did not have much experience with RPG gamesThe posthuman guys were at fasa and then fanpro for like a decade before they made Eclipse Phase. Rob Boyle was the line editor for Shadowrun 4e.
>>97179461Actually half-dragon lackeys. Dragons prefer either half-dragons or other draconic creatures as their direct minions, with half-dragons and the like using kobolds as their own minions in turn. It's basically a pyramid scheme.
>>97179465Seems like they didn't learn much.
>>97179437How are the spaceships?Are they more like spelljammers with thumbing the logistics for cool factor or are they more like traveller with full classes and fleets denominating what the ships are for?
>>97180143Somewhere in the middle probably. They are between d20 Modern vehicle rules and D&D constructs. They work, but rules aren't the best. Dragonstar was aiming at space opera/star wars style, but with D&D informing all the actual setting choices. Which is why I'm sad that we won't get another edition that hammers out the kinks. On the other hand 5e grabby claws also won't get on it, so its not all bad.
>>97178136I mostly run a kuudere loner Zone-Stalker Theseus morph, doing tomb-raider stuff in quarantine zones and gates, so I ignore the whole Firewall thing and politics mostly, I prefer the Fate edition over the crunchy one. I'm doing a mission on iapetus right now, on an exurgent-infected site, along a cute deredere maniac pixie girl cartographer with a fury morph, pheromones and prehensile feet.For me, Eclipse Phase Fate is the way to go, EP is a kitchen sink thing, so I pick what I like and ignore the rest, I even sprinkle stuff from other Fate cyberpunk resources or just do my own.
