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Green nid edition

>/40kg/ Community Link
https://rentry.org/40k-General

>Community Links:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/
https://www.unitcrunch.com
https://www.newrecruit.eu
https://wahapedia.ru

>3rd Party Models Pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/Q33bkBUh (embed)

>Pre 10th Torrent:
Info hash: d91d8b9daa9c5dc9105fc0ec09812cbc17a752b5

>10th Edition Rules:
https://gofile<dot>io/d/9LvQTL
https://mega<dot>nz/folder/Em0Rmb7I#4GR-B7y4cu5nCB5QziXM4A

>How to make wargames terrain:
https://gofile.io/d/s99zDV

>Previous thread:
>>97179607

>thread question:
Why is green the best colour?
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Worst TQ in ages
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>>97184239
That nid looks so... Perfect.
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>‘The shattered gate vomits the get of the storm… they fight beneath the staring eye… worlds blessed and worlds cursed… the defeated are yet defiant…’

>‘The black sun burns cursed iron… and lights the furnace of vengeance… steel and flesh and blood and ichor tear and flow… and from ruin shall rise infinite geometries of spite…’

>‘Childer of Oleadros Delphos… faithful of Galagan… the time of whispers is ending… soon will come the time of knives… make ready, true believers… deliverance comes ironwrought and vengeful…’

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/0iy721tt/grotmas-day-15-a-message-from-within-the-eye/
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>>97184269
...are all three of those supposed to be Helmets? They have cutouts for eyes and a nose at the bottom...
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Sisters... Your response?
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>>97184269
A relaunch of the Lost & the Damned?
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>>97184269
>The black sun burns cursed iron… and lights the furnace of vengeance… steel and flesh and blood and ichor tear and flow
>deliverance comes ironwrought and vengeful…
Bet on IW.
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>>97184273
It's abstract art.
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>>97184275
That dude looks like he has AIDs
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>>97184275
.
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40k needs proper dragons in it.
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>>97184290
You got kroot. Stop asking for more kroot.
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>>97184269
Reminds me of the nurgle tree a bit.
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>>97184291
I am once again asking for more kroots
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>>97184269
>>97184280
Medrengard's got a black sun. Delphos was in Greece. Definitively Iron Warriors
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>>97184292
Nurgle going from the disease god to the funny gross god
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>>97184275
He would probably cry if confronted about his opinions.
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>>97184291
I ask for more kroot.
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Kroot with giant robots, please
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>>97184269
> to discover the ancient artifact known as the "Black Sun", the true reason for the Iron Warriors' presence on Tallarn.
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>>97184280
>The black sun burns cursed iron
Black Sun is Malal's thing.
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>>97184280
It's an easy bet, to be fair, but still people won't like this part
>and flesh and blood and ichor
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>>97184301
nothing is malal's thing anymore
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>>97184302
>iron warriors
>it's just new mutliators and an upgrade sprue for legionaries
Imagine
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>>97184305
Everything is canon.
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>>97184306
and a defiler, don't forget the defiler
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>>97184275
>is this the little dolls the nazis play with?
Yes.
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>>97184313
Please be real but please be good
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>>97184314
I wonder if Necrons stink
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>>97184320
They probably smell like old metals/stones
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>>97184243
>Can't recall that the "black sun" was invoked as a motif for Chaos.
Yes it's Iron Warriors. He's coming.
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i love orks :------D
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>>97184269
>black sun burns cursed iron
>steel and flesh and blood and ichor tear and flow… and from ruin shall rise infinite geometries of spite
>deliverance comes ironwrought and vengeful…’
Not very subtle GW, but I appreciate the straightforward.
Iron within, iron without
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>>97184275
Well if I was a faggot like you and him, I'd go through his profile/tweets/whatevers and find something he likes and then reply
>No, you're thinking of <that thing he likes>. That's the thing that Nazi's love.

But I don't care about his or your opinions enough to do that. I mean I care enough to reply on a Estonian lumber appreciation forum, but not enough to go and reply to that faggot where ever he is.
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How will daemon prince Perty look like?
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>>97184331
Show us your Ork army then
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>>97184335
Giant obliterator.
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>>97184330
wtf 40kg told me Valrak was wrong? Turns out he's right yet again???
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If Perturabo is coming back... does that mean Dorn is as well?
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>>97184335
We already have the depiction. Basically still the same but bigger and his armor is all fucked up because warp exposure.
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>>97184340
no, but if he did he would be leading the black templars more than the fists
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>>97184239
>Why is green the best colour?
it is really easy to paint and blend for some raisin
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>>97184331
Nonce poster
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>>97184335
His lower body will be that of a Dalek. From the waist up he will look the same as he always had, except he now has PERTURABO written on his forehead in bold letters.
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>>97184346
If it's so easy why have you never done it
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>>97184349
We don't sign our posts here.
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>>97184339
>valrak is right or wrong
If he just repeated what the leaker (the real bloke here taking all the risks), then he'd be right a lot more often.
But from a tiny text that could fit in a single screenshot, valrak wants to make a 10 minute video about HIMSELF.

He knows that we only care about the leaks, the info, and he doesn't like it.
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>>97184355
but I have ;_;
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>>97184364
Prove it
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>>97184346
From my experience easiest color to paint are dark blue and black and the most cancerous is yellow.
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>>97184345
I would like that. IFags insist he would disown the Templars and hate them.
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>>97184339
When Valrak says that the rumor comes from his TRUSTED source, then it is going to be real always. The trusted source is 100% some guy who is working at GW, probably a decently high level one as well seeing they have knowledge about lot of stuff regarding models.

If it is Valrak's own speculation, which he always says are just his own speculations and probably wrong, tend to be wrong 9/10.
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>>97184331
Are you going to start spamming images of children every thread like the refreshpedo
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>>97184376
Who made you thread police, cocksucker?
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>>97184379
Don't respond to him. He's just a faggot farming for (You)s with low effort bait.
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>>97184335
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>>97184379
>>97184384
Kek
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>>97184379
>noooo noooooo
>you have to love my loli spam nooooo
>you're trolling mee aaaaaa
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>>97184393
>MOOOOM THEY POSTED IT AGAIN THEY POSTED ANIME GIRL MAKE THEM STOP MOM THEY WONT LISTEN TO ME AHHHHHRHHHH
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>>97184399
No, anon, we are not gonna step on you, jack off before posting
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40k needs to start releasing fat fucks pronto. The rate at which AoS is outdoing us in fat Nurgle fucks is worrying. We must not allow a fat fuck gap.
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I don't care about winning or losing, I only want to cause the maximum amount of pain, frustration, and anxiety for anyone who plays against me. Which is the best army for this?
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I am bound by unbreakable cosmic affection to my immense, resplendently vermillion spouse, the legendary Magnus the Red, whose grandeur eclipses worlds.
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Astardes? Why don't you AstarDEEZ NUTS!
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>>97184406
The females only discord photo shoot?
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>>97184368
just use this primer when painting yellow, you will thank me later
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>>97184406
>more nurgle
Please no
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>>97184406
You're years late, death guard already got their fill.
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>>97184410
Dark Eldars? How new are you?
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>>97184406
AOS out does 40k because AOS actually has to sell itself to people; 40k can release the same thing over and over
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>>97184413
Put the trip back on
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>>97184436
Stop telling people what to do
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>>97184417
I can't stand pink shaded yellow. Pushes the yellow too close to orange imo
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>>97184410
primaris space marines
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>>97184440
I had you filtered for a reason. Put the trip back on fetalplapper
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Say something nice about your new neighbors
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>>97184369
IFfags are clueless
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>>97184460
>fetalplapper
What a bizarre name to call someone
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>>97184440
>>97184363
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>>97184460
You don't exactly look like the reasonable one if you call someone fetalplapper
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>>97184406
>We must not allow a fat fuck gap.
If it's just in terms of Chaos armies then AoS won that battle already. I think the only Chaos army that doesn't have a fat bastard in it is the Tzeentch one. All the others have at least one.
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>>97184461
How did australians become my neighbours?
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>>97184494
ummm...what is he about to eat?
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>>97184461
Nice foreheads you cunts
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>>97184501
Don't worry about it.
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>>97184440
End your life faggot
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>>97184501
halfling fried shrimp
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>>97184501
Whatever he wants
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>>97184470
>>97184483
What a reasonable guy
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>>97184520
A Wolf Lord would never take the ez way out, his life ending will be found on the field of battle.
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the biggest problem here is that you guys are fucking jelous, d e c a l c h a d is amazing person and has a great army, i get it you cant stand this, but please, be a better person and just admit that you are worse
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>>97184555
its just a few heinously retarded peeps that have nomodels and have never played a game.
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So IW coming... On Christmas day? Next edition? I swear to god if they're making a story about something that won't show in 2 years...
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>>97184570
This is probably getting resolved during the campaign for the end of the edition before next summer
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>>97184239
Three billies in three days. Get ready to sign, 40cucks.
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>>97184291
>>97184297
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>>97184590
I'm going to enjoy the ayynimals
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tau women owe me blue sex
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>>97184587
>>97184570
This anon is most likely right. IW will be shoved in a campaign book for a few months before 11 so they can hit you twice for book purchases.
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>>97184345
Or the Crimson fists.
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>>97184620
I swear the only reason I don't pick up Orks is because of how much of a jobber faction they are.
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>>97184239
>Why is green the best colour?
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>>97184411
She's not even red. 2/10, nice tits and ass though.
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>>97184590
Did someone say Avatar?
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>>97184430
But we NEEDED that new Marneus Calgar complete with his totally new Victrix Guard™
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>>97184345
>>97184620
Why do you think you would be Dorn's chosen ones?
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>>97184634
when eldar stopped being jobber faction?
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First time trying to magnetize, with a Norn. Limbs still need to be sanded off and there's a gap where the joints connect because I didn't want to carve into the limbs for magnet placement, but I can live with it
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>>97184644
That's Avatar: The Last Airbender, not Avatar, the hit film that made 2 BILLION dollars and has a massive cultural impact.
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>>97184547
>Exactly why I removed the trip
No, you removed the trip because you got scared of people making a collage of your horse shit and sending it to the actual moderators who can then permanently ban you.
>>97179789

Btw removing it doesn't work anyway because both mods and even jannies can see your entire IP anyway
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>>97184620
No codex, no relevance
but they could always turn the templars codex into a codex for all sons of dorn, that could be fun and add some interesting variety
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Anons I'm new and decided to start Drukhari.
This is the list I'll be building. 2000 points, Spectacle of Spite. How bad is it? I made it based on various battle reports I watched on youtube and also around the Drukhari Battleforce. I also got the Harlequins Combat Patrol so I decided to add the Solitaire as he's apparently quite useful.
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>>97184680
He's reporting it all again lmfao
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>>97184686
>I'm new
>starting with 2k points
>of deldar
My condolences.
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>>97184706
More like using the delete function.
Not like any of it matters anyway since the fucking archive exists which documents all of this retard behaviour.
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>>97184570
>>97184587
>>97184619
They will reveal their models on Christmas Day most likely and release 2 months later. They also owe use that Custodes refresh they sneak peaked over half a year ago.
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>>97184540
>A Wolf Lord would never take the ez way out
You mean like reporting everyone who brings up criticisms of your behavior
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>>97184715
I'm not getting it all at once but this is what I'll be building towards. Also where I live people play 2000 points almost exclusively besides AoS Spearhead.
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>>97184666
Bruh at least people pity the Eldar, you could cull a trillion Orks and it would garner the same reaction to you cutting the grass with the mower.

>>97184680
Stay on topic you heathen, the mods are salivating right now and just gave me a 10 min timeout for off topic discussion.
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>>97184716
Nah I got a warning for mine, he's going through and reporting anything he can
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>>97184634
They don't job if you're a decent player
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>>97184727
My advice is to start small.
It's good that you're planning, keep that up, but unless you planned on batch painting your 2k points at the same time then nothing is stopping you from doing it in steps.

Steps also allows you to see the cracks in the walls before you put the roof on top.
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>>97184752
>jobbing
>win rates
Nta but what's your definition of "jobbing".
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>>97184269
If these short stories are meant to be teasers, does that mean the last one about ulrik was about his model getting updated?
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>>97184778
I still think this is one of the best marine models they've ever made.
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>>97184778
Possibly, GW isn't very clever around their marketing
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Calling them mediocre would be a stretch
Calling them bad would be appropriate
Calling them vomit inducing would likely pass
But they're still mine and allowed me to learn few lessons for the future I will very likely be still retouching them with a proper brush
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>>97184770
Losing
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>>97184753
Yeah I don't want to fall into a closet full of backlog kind of trap. I just figured I'll make a list and then keep adding to it. No idea if this list is any good. Maybe? So far I got the Battleforce and Hand of the Archon (the old version, was 50% off for some reason). I'll build and paint what I have and then get more.

In regards to Dark Eldar I'm just following my heart.
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>>97184783
These are a little rough, but theyre not nearly as rough as they look in that photo i can guarantee that. Flash, and dark backgrounds are a terrible mix. Consult the guide anon, it'll make things look way way better, even just following some of the steps
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>>97184752
I'm talking lore wise you hillbilly
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>>97184778
I love that model as well, I took great pride in painting mine.
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>>97184845
Well done.
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>>97184825
my camera's focus seems borked and didn't have extra lamps at hand since its repurposed room on top of just wanting to get them out but noted for future
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>>97184783
weird scheme, but alright
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>>97184845
Very good. He's probably the best Chapter Master model they made.
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>>97184835
but this isnt lore general, are you dumb?
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>>97184860
i kinda ran out of idea for guns and didn't want them to be grey i admit but the basic is supposed to be
>carapace blue
>the tracksuit is beige
>orange radiators
it's just that jacks also come with extra socks and gloves so decided to go classic black with them, I got one more squad done today with red pauldron so that's just visual aid when playing
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>they're gonna release another primarch before we get chaos bikers
I'm gonna cry
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>>97184778
He looks particularly short
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>>97184715
real, i got a closet with 2k of drukhari but lately just can't be assed to sniff glue for 12h assembling them
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>>97184886
Are they bad to assemble or something?
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>>97184878
make the yellow hazard stripes instead
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>>97184891
Nta but lots of spikes and fiddly details with long mouldlines running down the back of them
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>>97184880
Why do they hate Chaos (Bikers)
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>>97184878
>got one more squad done today with red pauldron
That sounds worse imo, generally I think it's better doing small stripes and things for visual aids, you don't need to paint the whole detail a flagging colour for it to stand out
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>>97184835
I don't give a shit about the lore
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>>97184898
No pain no gain.
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>>97184853
>>97184862
ty Kings, yea I love the details on him.
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>>97184914
Holy Based!
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>>97179994
What a shit argument. That's like saying intercessors aren't a tactical squad replacement because they are missing their special weapons. Duh. That's what makes them a shit replacement, but a replacement they are still.
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>>97184845
>such great pride I don't have a standalone image of it without 60 minis clogging up the background
>also it's not in focus
>no tufts
You must be so proud that you put in even less effort
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>>97184904
probably because they still haven't decided what they want to do with chaos' car park
if they update bikes but keep the bikes themselves plain then if they udoate the tanks to be gnarlier the bikes will look out of place
meanwhile if they update the bikes to be akin to the type of details on demon engines and troops then the vehicles too are practically forced to follow that as well
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>>97184939
Can I see some of your models buddy?
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>it's ANOTHER decalfag thread
JUST MAKE IT STOP PLEASE I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE
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>>97184845
This really isn't anything to be proud of, chunky paint and a wash staining all over isn't something you put effort into

Why do you waste money on models you're not even trying to get better at painting with?
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>>97184914
This is the way. Only lore that matters is /yourdudes/. Everything else is fodder for you to tear up and either ignore or use to make /yourdudes/ cooler
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>>97184955
Unfortunately the slopper keeps ban evading
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>>97184955
There's like a dozen discussions going on outside of decal stuff you whiny cunt

>>97184965
You're literally the devil incarnate
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>>97184269
This is clearly about Iron Warriors, of course, but why did it seem like they were teasing Word Bearers before, with all of the mentions of Calth and such in the Ultramarines protest videos?
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>>97184955
The neonatalnapper is on a mission to make every thread about him. Not much you can do about it
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>>97184989
calth is an ultramarines world, and poking fun at ultramarines by pretending to be their arch nemesis is straightforward

it's not deep
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>>97184965
nta but this is literally better painted than half the thread, only reason you are seething is because you latched on him like a schizo, be sure to call me him as well you retarded faggot and please keep derailing the thread like always you retard fuck I hate this shithole
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>>97184983
>>97184993
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>>97184983
Sorry that I don't dickride your babby's first paintjob tier model
You've done this for over two years and haven't improved in the slightest, doesn't that strike you as concerning
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>>97184999
>it's not deep
Thought-terminating cliché that is never apt
They spent money to make those videos and there's a reason
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Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
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@97185001
Trying WAY too hard
Not even worth the direct quote this time
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>>97185013
the reason is they're making more ultramarines, anon, are you dense?
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>>97185001
>nta but this is literally better painted than half the thread
it really isn't, you can take a look at any of the collages and vast majority of stuff will be higher level
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>>97185005
>>97185015
Why can't you just die in a ditch already...
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>>97185026
Why can't you? Nobody likes you everywhere you go, you're a waste of life
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>>97185018
I have yet to see you post your own models bitch tits
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Working on a Space Wolves primaris successor chapter right now (don't like normal SW paint scheme), need some help with the name.
I'm going with a ghost theme, so the name is going to be the Ghost [blank]s. Thinking of Hounds or Walkers right now.
Anyone have any ideas?
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>>97185044
As someone new to this thread it's crazy that people are saying this is painted badly and a waste of money on models when >>97184783 is considered "alright" and "not that bad"
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>>97184590
Even the most ardent imperiumchuds are going to be xenogf pilled by based Cameron.
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>>97185059
you've been here for over a year at this point thoughbeit
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>>97184971
I find the puzzle approach more entertaining than the bitsbox approach:
There's a way to arrange the fluff, including headcanons into a servjceable whole without discarding much, and I'm going to have fun with the process.
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>>97185059
Its because some of these people are sick in the head and want to cause me emotional and physical harm if they could.
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>>97185059
Those steel jacks are at least painted with thought instead of an unthinned basecoats, an undiluted wash, and a chalky drybrush like the decalslopper's logan
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>>97184590
Three days for another fake movie with zero cultural impact to release? Oh boy!
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>>97185071
You've told multiple modelposters several echelons above you to kill themselves this week alone
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>>97185057
are you going to keep the wolf and runes decorations? because so you could go dig up some name from norse mythology
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>>97184914
>I don't give a shit about the lore
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>>97185093
You're a total fucking liar and have destroyed my reputation with my peers on this site for your own twisted amusement.
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>>97185059
Why do you do this every time
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>>97185059
>Decalmutant now trying to claw down other modelposters
He really is the new edgecoc
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The consortium apothecaries are built and ready for painting. Decided to go give WE guy a knife instead of a second axe, he looked too top heavy.
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>>97185044
I'll post my minis when you can post something that the entire thread can agree doesn't look like shit
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>>97185123
That not me you halfwit
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>>97185130
Uh huh
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>>97185082
But enough about the SpongeBob movie. We were talking about Avatar: Fire and Ash, a movie that will have HUGE impact.
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Yet another thread about the decalfag because you faggots are to stupid to ignore bait. I genuinely hate this place.
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This general will now drink tea.
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>>97185124
>iron warrior
>emperor child
>world eater
>night lord
>death guard
?
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>>97185146
Yes. They're gonna be proxies for biles enhanced warrior bodyguard.
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>>97185144
I just fucking vomited on my tormentors not even 5 minutes ago. Fuck you.
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>>97185137
The decalfag and the antidecalfag are so consistent at this that at this point I buy the narrative that they're in an agreement to ruin the thread, one of those discord raids, as the kids say.
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>>97185059
>>97185001
Do you really think lashing out at people who are posting their first minis is a respectable thing to do you socially inept retard? You're a fucking worthless faggot, I hope your brothers kidney stones run in the family and you're pissing gravel for the rest of your life
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>>97185137
What bait you nerd? Someone complimented my models and then the faggot schizo appeared to besmirch me and my modeler skills.
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>>97185130
The classic
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>>97185137
when two retards become trapped in a retardation cycle it could very well last years
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>>97185161
You don't have any tormentors, nobody plays ec
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>>97185158
Now I wonder how one could have approached a thousand sons apothecary
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>>97185137
>stop noticingggg reeeeeee
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>>97185188
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>>97185144
This general will now post models.
>>97185200
kek
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I reply to myself saying I have no minis so I can reply to myself with pictures of them and make myself look better.
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>>97185188
I was thinking about doing the 4 cult legions but a tson apothecary makes little sense since most of the legion is dust. Atleast I got 5 rubrics + a sorcerer who will rep tsons in my bile army.
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>>97185210
How about you just post them now chief? Anything is better than the nomodels schizo trash
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>>97185219
How about you blow your brains out redditor
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>>97185209
Postan
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>>97184590
It's just funny to me how much seething the Avatar movies cause because they show humans as being evil dickheads.
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>>97185227
You just complained that he told you to kys a thread or something ago.
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>>97185188
>aspiring sorcerer apothecary
>specialises in cutting off mutations
snowflakey, but it's something

or
>rubric servant tasked with medical duties for the sorcerers
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>>97185219
>shitting on new painters
>demanding models posted without posting his own
>incapable of receiving criticism
>gay
>retarded
You really are the new dcslopper
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When I see an unrelated debate where anons tell each other to post minis, I sometimes reply with a 3rd anon's minis. Not my own.
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Here we go again
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>>97185250
Its the Female discord raiding again
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>>97185233
>Everybody I don't like is the same person
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I wish orks were fungi freaks like gloomspite gitz.
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>>97185241
Why would you throw a random person under the bus for no reason, especially when you weren't even participating in the argument, what do you gain out of interacting with it at all
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>>97185257
You mean like they'd have a more a of mushroom-y theme to them?
I guess that'd be kinda cool to see.
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>>97185254
If you actually believe that you're retarded. Don't reply to me ever again.
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>>97185267
I know you're their little ring leader too
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>>97185245
Your utter lack of ability to own up to your mistakes
Your habit of denigrating other modelposters when they tell you they don't like you
Your snakelike behavior constantly lying about what community organizers have said about you, going so far as to edit yourself onto their collages
The fact that you're here all day every day just waiting for an opportunity to detail the thread and make it about you
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Trying to buy anything Dark Eldar is fucking PAIN AND SUFFERING. Can I please spend money? Please?
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>>97185245
>got deleted
lmao
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>>97185210
pretty smart not gonna lie
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>>97185272
Have you considered buying second hand?
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>>97185272
>Least selling faction in the game
>Because GW literally won't even sell it when people actually want it
It's like pottery
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Do eldar warlocks need to wear that giant helmet? Like does it prevent them from shitting their pants when shooting out lightning or something?
I was building the corsairs kit to use for my DE but I was going to use it on the captain to make him stand out more.
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>>97184239
I don't like this TQ so I present an alternative one.

How many overused homebrew cliches can you think of that are related to your chosen 40k army?
I'll start:
>spess marines
>traitor legion geneseed most of the time the Iron Warriors
>Also fleet based
>Also chimeric geneseed
>also of one of the lost primarchs
>also a bit like the Black Templars in being religious and full of hate
>also doesn't really obey the codex astartes when it comes to how big a chapter should be
>also full of Horus Heresy era stuff
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>>97185275
I get deleted and the comments telling me to kms are left up, this is insane.
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>>97185257
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>>97185257
But anon, you said something positive about AoS. This will upset the newfags trying to gaslight /40kg/ into being anti-AoS for some reason.
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>>97185254
I don't need a discord of others to make you crash out. It takes very little as demonstrated last thread.
>>97185245
At this point you have shit on all my favorite modelposters multiple times, all the communitykings, and now today you've shat on a first timer for no reason.
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>>97185292
Yeah, unfortunately I can't find anything in the places I buy from.

>>97185293
Whole range has been sold out 3 times now since the new codex. Everything. 3 fucking times.
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>>97185292
>sister famulous getting BUGGED
Sauce required immediately
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>>97185299
the bulbous part of the back of the helmet is meant to represent some psychic resonator shit, so it would feel weird to see it elsewhere

it's ok to glue the crest on others though
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>>97185301
Second ban evasion of the afternoon!
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>>97185299
It keeps their heads from doing this
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>>97185317
Oh hey. Jet black raider made new Malys art? That's cool. Didn't know she was still around
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>>97185311
Anyone with reason would hate your corposlop aos trash, rat loving faggot!
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>>97185270
>>97185275
>>97185312
>>97185325
He's fucking playing you and you can't fucking see that. It's honestly amazing. It's like that troll episode of South Park.
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>>97185336
Trying too hard
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>>97185292
>tyranid beastiality
gross
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>>97185341
You will NEVER have skaven in 40k, bitch!
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>>97185339
You overestimate that retard, he can barely function on his own
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>>97185257
Meanwhile GSG rolls out a bunch of plain wolves that make the army less freakish and fungal.
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>>97185336
Riveting and eye opening
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>>97185325
They are not banning me you creep, they are deleting certain comments for what reason I don't know.
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>>97185339
It's utterly hilarious to me that people think they're blowing him out when he's getting exactly what he wants with every single reply.
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>>97185322
>>>/aco/9078077

>>97185343
Akchually, it's xenophillia
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>>97185257
I probably would start playing orks if they started doing fungus mutants in 40k but I think that kinda infringes on nurgles thing
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>>97184275
He looks like he can't curl 10 lbs so I don't care what he thinks
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>>97185358
have you considered that the retard likes getting blown just as much as the other retard likes blowing him?
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>>97185339
>>97185358
Sometimes I think these guys are all working together. It feels very coordinated
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>>97185357
>Every post deleted
>Over 2 minutes between deletion and your next post
Yes, they're banning you
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>>97185368
Damn, you might be right. Or maybe it's all the same person, wouldn't surprise me either at this point
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>>97184845
Looks incredibly gay
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>>97185057
You know what you must do.
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>>97184936
>but a replacement they are still.
No, that's incorrect. The first gravis unit we ever got was a jump infantry shooting unit.
It was never intended as a terminator replacement.
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>>97185044
These ones look extra gay
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>>97185059
>hating on other people's models when yours look like trash.
You're a worthless scumbag.
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>>97185257
I don't because that aesthetic sucks
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>>97185241
I once posted one of my models and someone had a shit fit for like three threads in a row because they were 100% convinced I was some thread troll regular here and started reposting my model in every thread
I don't post models anymore
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>>97185361
Ty king. May the cosmos gift you with an ass full of eggs and a new bug friend
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>>97185301
you are disgusting nazi freak, just go away
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>>97185389
Inceptors were not the only gravis release.
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>>97185057
Revenant Hounds.
Wraith Walkers.
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>>97185406
That never happened but I'm sorry you think it did
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>>97185299
The ornate helmets worn by Warlocks in the field are kept in the shrines of the Warrior Aspects as a sign of the close link between Warlocks and their former status as Warriors. A Warlock can only attain that status by returning to the Aspect Shrine that he once belonged to and receiving his helmet from the shrine's Exarch as part of the same blood-ritual undergone by Aspect Warriors.
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>>97185415
I think anon is right that they were the first announced (along with this fatso), although Aggressors were also present in the first wave.
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>>97185410
Already denounced, already removed. Move on.
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I missed out on yesterday's army posting.
Here's the dudes I brought to my 3v3 game on Saturday
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>>97185059
>>97185001

>I'm actually better than this first timer
Go tongue kiss a Benelli M4 while you give the trigger a footjob
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What mechanical niche would iron warriors occupy that another army doesn't already do on tabletop?
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>>97185422
Happened to that one harlequin poster
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>>97185409
Thank you brother.
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>>97185428
He brought up inceptors coming out first as if that disqualifies gravis from being a terminator replacement and which I was going to say that isn't pertinent because as you point out aggressors were in the first wave (in fact they came out a month after the box inceptors)
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>>97185415
They were the first.
The only gravis unit that conceivably competes with terminators is the Aggressors.
Aggressors are only 1/4 gravis units, and have plenty to differentiate them from terminators.
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>>97185435
Daemon Engines and Machine-Mutated-Marines.
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>>97185433
Blubangelsanon my beloved
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>>97185361
Tyranids are animals, it's just beastiality.
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>>97185435
gameplay doesn't matter, only models do

btw, in gw's eyes the answer is removing a vehicles-heavy gameplay from normal chaos marines so it can be handed to iron warriors
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>>97185446
:)
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>>97185446
>my beloved
So lame...
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>>97185226
TOTAL MONKEIGH DEATH
ASSEMBLE THE BAHZHAKHAIN
KHAINE! KHAINE! KHAINE!
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>>97185436
That was a social media influencers model, not a real poster
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>>97185457
Wrong
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>>97185433
Kick ass models brother!
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>>97185449
They're monstrous aliens.
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>>97185435
Do we have an army that is explicitly anti vehicle? Like every army has a list that is nasty against vehicles, but is that anybodies shtick?
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>>97185459
Jesus Christ can I buy a little help here jannies?
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That trygon kicked my ass yesterday
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>>97185460
It was but if youd like you can pretend it wasnt to continue being upset on someone else's behalf
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>>97185435
Give chaos some kind of terrain piece like Tau's tide wall and give iron warriors better bonuses for using it
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>>97185435
Really shooty, but Chaos.
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>>97185463
They are just animals.
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>>97185481
At least they're not gay, like space furries.
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>>97185470
nids vs gsc?
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>>97185455
I'd say maybe one day you'll find someone to say the same about you or your models but I have a suspicion I'm talking to someone that doesn't have the same social ability as your average poster and likely has no models.
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>>97185470
Still love your focusing style of your pics gscanon
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>>97185488
I could throw away 3 quarters of all my models and still outnumber you by thousands of points you little wretch.
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>>97185473
Go ahead and link the social media account then
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>>97185487
yup
>>97185494
My lens is 35mm/53 equivalent so depth of field is rather thin, and the light at the store sucks so I need to take them with a wide aperture to let more light in which also thins down the depth of field.
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>>97185460
caught the falseflagger
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>>97185496
It doesn't matter how many models you have when you paint them all to so gay.
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>>97185496
Ah my mistake, I should have known i was talking to you when you decided to lash out because someone who wasn't you was receiving attention. Either way the first part of my post still stands and you'll continue to prove it correct for the rest of the thread and going forward as well
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>>97185506
Love the setup, especially the sandy tiles. Good shit based fellow game player.
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>>97185513
This fucking sucks
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>>97185501
I'm not doxing a random guys socials and getting banned for you because you weren't here you retard
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>>97185506
Depth of field is my biggest issue when taking photos and i dont know anything when taking photographs.
Assuming light is not an issue how to I take images where I can have an entire squad in focus instead of just one guy in focus and his buddies all blurry?
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>>97185518
>Doxxing
Ah, you were just shitposting, thanks for clarifying that
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>>97185511
I know this is you lamenteranon and I want to discuss our beef on the girls only discord. Please allow me temporary admittance.
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>>97185513
God that game looks so tedious. You're that "friend" that people tolerate because they're too nice to tell you to fuck off, aren't you
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>>97185533
What? No I have many friends who I get along with and have great times playing with. We don't a a member we secretly dislike because we're men of honor.
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>>97185539
>What? No I have many friends who I get along with and have great times playing with. We don't a a member we secretly dislike because we're men of honor.
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>>97185513
Fuck off you absolute cunt
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>>97185545
Not sure why you retweeted me but I love that movie, a true classic that I in fact just rewatched.
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>>97185521
nta but someone did post a reddit username of that harlequin guy to prove it was not dcslopper
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>>97185520
There are three things that contribute to how thin your depth of field is,
Aperture, the wider it is the more light you get but the depth of field will be thinner. You'd want to get down to f/5.6 something, more things will be in focus but there'll be less light in.
Focus distance. The closer you focus, the thinner the depth of field will be. If you shoot your models at the minimum focus distance, the depth of field will be very thin. That's why people suggest cropping out photos, you take them at a distance to get more stuff in focus, then zoom in by cropping it. The resolution will reduce, but it still should be plenty enough.
Focal Length, the higher the number the thinner it is. Cell phones for example have an extremely low focal length, like 3-4mm due to their very small sensors and that's why most of the stuff they take all seem to be in focus. The higher the number is, the more "zoomed in" the photo will look so if you want to take an entire table to models you need a lens with a wider angle (something between 18mm-23mm equivalent).
tl;dr, Get your aperture to f/5.6-8 until everything's in focus, use decent lightning to compensate for narrow aperture, and shoot it at a distance and then crop. Use a wider angle lens if you have a camera.
Here's a comparison for aperture, top is f/4 and the bottom is f/8.
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>>97185555
Please stay on topic for 5 seconds you witless sperg.
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>>97185561
>not sure why
That's because you don't understand normal human interaction or social cues.
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>New Iron Warriors
>Guaranteed to be too spiky and not spiky enough
Are you prepared?
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>>97185526
I don't need a discord to fuck with you for me. I could do that on my own all day long, every day without any issues. I don't know who gave you this idea but it's legitimately retarded. Only other girls here I've seen was ultranon, louise, monkeytits, and ovipositorqueen and we certainly arent all psychically paging each other to pick on you. The majority of people fucking with you are dudes as much as that ruins your erotic headcanon that you're being chased by teeming hordes of women. Youre doing the same thing you did before where the entire thread became leftists overnight because you needed a group of people to blame for all your criticisms, but now the critics are using different language, so youve picked a new group to blame. Also you shitting on first time modelers today has completely destroyed any willingness to get along with you.
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>>97185585
Saved.
Thank you anon
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>>97185609
>I've decided I'm already mad with no context
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>>97185612
I didn't shit on any modelers and I never do, stop trying to paint this narrative that I am a verbal abuser of my peers. You on the other hand are a well established shit stirrer from what other anons of mentioned and I know for a fact that you are one of the people teasing me constantly and I just want to talk with you and see if we can resolve things amicably and maybe even become friends or acquaintances and who knows maybe even get some coffee and play a game together.
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>>97185626
>and maybe even become friends or acquaintances and who knows maybe even get some coffee and play a game together.
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>>97185626
Nobody wants to be your friend here. Take your decal slop models and fuck off already.
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>>97185643
I extend an olive branch and you grab it, break it and set it on fire.
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>>97185609
There shouldn't be a new "Iron Warriors" base troop. At most there should be some specialized unit that is mutually exclusive with other legions and fulfills some role, like breacher squads with those riot shields.
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>>97185658
the iron warriors unit is obliterators
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>>97185658
there should still be a mutually exclusive infantry unit for iron warriors, like the night lord's do.
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>>97185653
I'd shove it up your ass if given the opportunity
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>>97185662
No, obliterator are a generic unit.
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>>97185612
>>97185626
Both of you are genuinely pathetic at this point, I'm getting second hand embarassment just reading this garbage holy shit. Neither of you belong here because you obviously don't respect the anonymity this place is ultimately about, you should fuck off to facebook or some other social media
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>>97185626
I said everything I need to here >>97185612. We don't need to talk more because you will just ignore the parts you don't like and lash out about the parts you really don't like. You do this every time. There is no reconciliation to be had. You should have turned the other cheek months ago. Conversation is impossible with you, you simply lie and then crash out when asked why you lied. I'm not wasting my time talking to a wall, I can do that at home and have it be less obnoxious than any interaction I could have with you
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>>97185662
>>97185669
oops replied to the wrong post.
Anyways Night lords get to have warp talons and nemesis claw. Iron Warriors should have Oblits and Breacher squads.
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>>97185615
Godspeed. There's also focus stacking where you take multiple photos of a subject but you focus on different points, then combine them all in photoshop something to get crisp images but I've yet to do it myself. I got this super close shot of Szeras with a macro extension tube but as you can see the depth of field is paper thin, I need to take multiple photos get everything in focus when shooting at this close.
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was there a leak or did fatrak just mention IW somewhere that there seems to be a talk about them?
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>>97185695
I think it was boole who mentioned IW on the tga aos rumor threads
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Why doesn't Warhammer use casualty figures for units that have killed, especially for Vehicles? Remember when destroyed vehicles were left on the table but you put billowing smoke marker on top?

Isn't it kinda immersion breaking to have the unit just disappear off the tabletop
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>>97185695
Newest grotmas warcom article got posted. Talks about "black suns" and "cursed iron"
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>>97185562
They cross post to reddit like half the modelposters here
That's not the same as "stealing from a social media influencer"
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>>97185695
There's been rumours.
Short story today confirmed it.
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>>97185626
>even become friends
See a doctor, they can diagnose you with autism and get you some help
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>>97185626
>I didn't shit on any modelers and I never do
You did it this thread
You did it a few days ago to the blue bangelsfag
You did it repeatedly to the lamenterfag and o&Tfag
You did it to the dangelsfag who gave you an opportunity for redemption
You did it to goblingreenfag
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>>97185695
Funny enough he made a video today before the short story dropped and the only primarch he mentioned was russ so if It ends being perturabo he's a hack
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>>97185562
>it's impossible to make alternate reddit accounts
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>>97185709
>Confirmed
LOL
Can't wait for your tantrum when youe ancillary csm legion doesn't get anything unique again
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>>97185705
Oh my sweet summer child.
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>>97185720
Saving this post because it stinks of the same stupidity that said things like the Primaris leak being fake, sisters never getting plastics, GSC never returning etc
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>>97185422
Every single time somebody posts an emperor's children or death company paintjob even when they're clearly not the old slopper you get 1-2 fags spamming at them for 5-10 posts
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>>97185720
Doubt all you want, nigger.
This is standard GW practise.
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>>97185705
Let me ask you something. Are you happy with the price of gw miniatures right now? Now let me ask you another question. Would you pay full gw prices for miniatures that do nothing in game unless your models die, and then once you place them on the table they go back to doing nothing again? Your pic is a squad of 6. Generally 5 man units are 60-70$. Would you pay the price of a box of intercessors for 5 dead dudes? You can absolutely make your own casualty and vehicle wrecks and use them in games to make it even more flavourful, but surely you can understand why gw would have a tough time selling that to every customer
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>>97185626
You are again lying you always do, this is the reason why nobody likes you and why nobody here is your "peer".
You're just an annoying, lying piece of shit that constantly shits up the threads and starts to whinge that people are bullying him when they tell your retarded ass to fuck off.
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>>97185705
because having ruined/dead tokens for all types of models is too much work/money that could be spent on more of the normal models, and because simply leaving the tanks to stand in for their destroyed versions is a whole discussion regarding the models that should behave similarly or not

should a knight stand in place after being disabled? should an exocrine? a trygon?
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>>97185729
You will gag on my cock at the end of December when no IW anything gets revealed
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>>97185609
>Are you prepared?
Kind of.
Generally most Iron Warrior fanboys like to view the Iron Warriors are chaos space marines that keep chaos exposure to a minimum and thus are not true chaos space marines at the same time.
But I think the canon 40k lore dictates that Iron Warriors are wholly in service to the chaos gods. Thus bitter Chaos Space Marines in denial that they are in service of chaos but they are. They just have a dark industrial aesthetic to them with a tiny crumb of ancient Greek in them.

But I have a feeling that BL writers are going to make the Iron Warriors primarily in service of Vashtorr to make Vashtorr more integrated in 40k lore and boost his popularity.

It is Chaos Primarch Perturabo's depiction that I think will absolutely never be wholly accepted. It will either be too chaos looking or not chaos enough with the Iron Warrior autists.
There will be bitter seething among the IW fans no matter what and I want to witness it.

If I was in charge of Pert's ascension to daemonhood it would go as follows:
Pert's ascension to daemonhood as accidental and unwanted and he just gave away the IF's geneseed to the chaos gods out of autistic petty spite and the Chaos gods just elevated him to daemonhood and Perty had a tantrum while ascending.
But there is no satisfying all of the IW fanboys.
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>>97185705
Because 40k is an abstraction
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>>97185705
Yeah using a destroyed tank as cover felt alot more cinematic than just removing it entirely.
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>>97185741
nobody is gagging on that pencil dick of yours
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>>97185735
You're getting nothing, maybe in 2 years when nemesis claw gets rolled out of kill team they'll reveal an alpha legion KT
IW arent getting anything outside of HH
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>>97185732
Nobody posts emperor's children because nobody plays them
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>>97185749
We had somebody post some like two threads ago spammer-kun
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>>97185739
>simply leaving the tanks to stand in for their destroyed versions is a whole discussion regarding the models that should behave similarly or not
Nta but I never even thought about that from that perspective. Wrecked tanks always made sense in my head, but like what do you do with a wraithknight? Or a riptide? Do they stay standing up after death? Do you lay your nicely painted model on its side on the table to get scratched up?
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>>97185719
None of the stuff on that account was even remotely similar to what ecslopper was posting
>>97185708
>half the modelposters
I've only seen a couple but to be fair I don't go on reddit very often
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>>97185776
Kill yourself you insincere faggot
You will go back to calling her a crazy bitch conspiring with a discord cabal of imaginary women to harass you before today is over
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>>97185786
Don't reply to the ec-obsessed shitposter, he doesn't even really believe what he posts he just does it for attention
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>At the end of your units movement phase, place a facing marker exactly 6 inches away from this unit. In the oponent's shooting phase, if this unit is the target of a shooting attack, and the attacking unit is closer to the market than to this unit, improve by 1 the save and invulnerable saves of this unit for those units attacks.
you guys think this is shrimple enough?
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>>97185743
IW are also pretty splintered into warbands like Night Lords are so their take on chaos is a spectrum from demon batteries, to shoving demons and demon princes into walking refrigirators, till actual chaos worship. It's just the stories following Honsu that give us the most paroted outlook on things.
They could be a way to introduce some Dark Mech anciliaries alongside daemon engines.
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>>97185796
>improve invulnerable saves
HAHAHAHA fuck off
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I've tried to give tabletop a bunch of tries but could never truly get into it. Maybe it would be different if my friends actually played, but since I don't have any plans in playing and still just like painting do you guys have any recommendations for displaying armies or setting up some basic dioramas
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>>97185789
I swear I remember them mentioning the discord of women but I guess im losing it.
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>>97185820
Ideally it would be a marine unit with an invuln 6 improved to 5 if they're facing you, and a normal save of 3 improved to 2 so it would only really matter against meltaguns.
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>>97185776
See a doctor
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>>97185796
why place a marker 6" away when you could place a pair of them in direct base contact of the thing to delineate where its frontal arc is?
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>>97185796
I like using Wiked Brick for my dioramas
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/2rfusarl/unlock-the-potential-of-a-wicked-brick-case-with-these-stunning-warhammer-dioramas/
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>>97185841
wrong thread, anon
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>>97185209
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>>97185846
that would get fucky with units with multiple models, my method doesn't require a line laser and is robust for larger units.
Unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean.
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>>97185840
For what? My kindness and understanding?
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>>97185850
You've never heard of them until todays article. Also you could probably get that off ali or temu for $5 instead of $30
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>>97185859
I like that icy white effect on those panels
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>>97185743
>If I was in charge of Pert's ascension to daemonhood it would go as follows:
It's far far easier to say he simply hosted the obliterator virus and upgraded himself until he's practically an immortal demon being despite not being uplifted the conventional way
add in how vashtorr brokered some of the upgrades to make a connection with him without the full blown top down patronage/servitude relation
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Every fucking time.
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>>97185868
That would be a retarded retcon to appease the secondaries who parrot the fake lore of the IW not being chaos cucks
he's been a daemon prince for decades
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Did they forget today’s grotmas
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>>97185875
You are part of the problem
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>>97185884
The forgot this year's grotmas
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>>97185875
I fucking hate that faggot but I have to admit the Magnus panel made me laugh
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>>97185875
Stop posting this
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>>97185895
I got a bangels detach and a clussy detach, the only thing I'm missing is a GSC detach and this would be a better grotmas than last one for me.
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>>97185861
models of multiple units can use their own models to signal where the front is
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>>97185859
The ice effect looks awesome. I'd add small patches (very small) of snow paint on the white portions and on the trim.
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>>97185898
The Magnus ai slopper is easily my most detested spammer in these threads
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>>97185658
>There shouldn't be a new "Iron Warriors" base troop.
There should be.
They should make chaosi-fied mk3 armor.
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>>97185880
ok, but who wants him to be a chaos cuck aside from people who aren't really interested in the army?
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>>97185904
>clussy detach
Was it good or bad?
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>>97185812
>IW are also pretty splintered into warbands like Night Lords
Don't worry. GW was never good at numbers so Perts will just pull a legion-load of IW marines out of his ass and do some sieging.

You got me musing though.
What if Perts was all this time hording geneseed and making new IW under the surface of Medrengard like how Cawl had a load of primaris marines in his basement and is waiting for the right time?
Like Perts just waiting for the Black Legion to wear itself out numbers wise and then use his IW to finish the job.
I dunno. Maybe there could be a funny petty rivalry between the IW and the Word Bearers over who will take up the Black Legion's role if the BL is no longer able to keep up the momentum on the Imperium.

>>97185868
That's pretty good actually. I just think the ascension of Perts to daemonhood is thoroughly in the 40k fluff. I read the Breed of Iron short story and Pert was abnormally relaxed. Except when he threatened Honsou to kill him if he failed his little wargame. They literally played some hybrid Battlefleet Gothic/Epic hybrid tabletop game while Perts told a story about Olympia if I recall correctly.
Still everything is subject to retcons.

Also what you want out of the Iron Warriors fluff wise will probably be as terrible as what I want the Iron Warriors fluff wise to be if actually put into practice. It won't measure up to how cool we think it is in our heads.
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>>97185907
>models of multiple units
I had a stroke, meant units of multiple models
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>>97185916
>ok, but who wants him to be a chaos cuck
People who have liked the fluff for decades?
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>>97185822
>any recommendations for displaying armies or setting up some basic dioramas
Detolf is the most common one I see suggested, but theyve been discontinued for pic related. They need weather stripping on the doors to keep them dust proof, but theyre cheap af for a glass cabinet
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>>97185926
If they aren't interested in buying the models their opinion is irrelevant.
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>>97185910
We know, you take every opportunity to tell us
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>>97184678
The cultural impact is hot blue girls and making faggots like you seethe
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>>97185907
what do you do if you need to make sure the base is being divided into 90º or 180º arcs?
>>97185918
it's great, it's pretty clear there's some internal struggle at GW and they find it easier to make a whole new detachment for a faction rather than rework a bad one because it's just ghosts of the webway but better.
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>>97185931
People are more likely to buy models if they like the fluff.
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>>97185932
>Everybody is the same person
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>>97185933
Meant for >>97185082
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Thoughts? Do you know of something better and not costing an arm and a leg?
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>>97185931
>If they aren't interested in buying the models their opinion is irrelevant.
There are no iw models, there are only generic CSM models with iw paintjobs
Secondaries forcing a meme of them not being chaos slaves aren't going to buy iw models either way
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>>97185943
that's why you're meant to appease the potential iron warriors customers instead of people who are not interested in them or are downright spiteful about them
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>>97185875
Damn this guys pretty based
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>>97185943
Nobody will buy a shit model just because they like its fluff you dumbass
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>>97185950
Don't buy GSW Anything, they're like temu where they just steal products and sell them at markup
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>>97185959
Manlet marines prove you wrong.
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>>97185880
>who parrot the fake lore of the IW not being chaos cucks
What causes this?
It is probably the same reason for why so many homebrew traitor legion geneseed loyalist chapters are descended from the Iron Warriors.
Seriously the IW have the monopoly when it comes to traitor legion descended loyalist chapter homebrew from what I've seen.
I think the idea is cool as well even if overdone and cliche now.
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>>97185875
I fucking wish this bullshit was about that many separate posters.
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>>97185959
Good point, that's why they won't make models based on a fancanon where the IW aren't chaos worshippers
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>>97185965
Shut up!
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>>97185954
>that's why you're meant to appease the potential iron warriors customers
Such as the people who actually like their fluff.

>>97185959
Yeah they will.
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>>97185950
I'm surprised nobody has made an stl for a laser cutter to make stuff like this, but it might be so cheap to make yourself that you might as well just produce them and sell them as completed products
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>>97185936
I got pic related to work on during this Christmas. I don't know if I want to expand into a full army but I love the models and their lore. I wish they released more of them.
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>>97185960
wow didn't know GSW schizo posts oustide of /wip/
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The Space Wolves don't have wolfsteel.
The Dark Angels don't have lionsteel.
The Raven Guard don't have ravensteel.
The Salamanders don't have dragonsteel.
The Ultramarines don't have ultrasteel.
The White Scars don't have khansteel.
The Imperial Fists don't have fiststeel.
The Iron Hands don't have ironsteel.
The Blood Angels have angelsteel.
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>>97185982
Not whoever that is, it's common knowledge that they just resell shit
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>>97185993
anon most western companies either resell chinesium shit or use chinesium parts in their products
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>>97185936
>what do you do if you need to make sure the base is being divided into 90º or 180º arcs?
the perfect but frowned upon solution is marking the base

but with that setup of tokens you can shift one at a time to easily underline the flank or rear at any moment
the problem is that it requires said tokens for every big thing, and some prearranged calculations to remember how far the tokens must be placed, and there can be arguments from people not being exact/or being pedantic when the tokens are moved, like there can be with all other measurements

or you and your opponent could be reasonable and tell by eye if a model has a flank or rear component exposed enough
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>>97185989
All the more proof that they are the superior chapter
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>>97185989
You have autism.
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>>97185989
donutsteel

also wolves have ice blades
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>>97185972
I got one of these combat patrols and received an extra box of troupes for free.

Wonder what else I'd theoretically need to make this a full army.
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>>97185982
Qrd? Or is this just another guy paying too much attention to the brands of hobby materials people use
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>>97186004
Based retard
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>>97185970
>Such as the people who actually like their fluff.
People who like the iron warriors don't express a desire for their primarch to be made a "chaos cuck"
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>>97186010
That simply doesn't work in GWs modern design ethos, my system is mathematic and has no ambiguity
Even a game amongst friends games can go on for hours and hours when this level of ambiguity is possible.
>>97186019
10 more skyweavers
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>>97186019
Revenant titan. Rest of list filled with razorwing flocks
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>>97185989
Space Wolves have something better, frost axes.
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>>97186026
They are CHAOS space marines, they're all slaves to the gods you fucking retard
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>>97186026
>People who like the iron warriors don't express a desire for their primarch to be made a "chaos cuck"
Yeah they do when it's short hand for being a daemon prince.
Iron Warriors are first and foremost Chaos Space Marines.
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>>97185950
Two guys in my LGS have it, honestly it's pretty handy as they both play guard with lots of models and tanks and whatnot but for a flimsy MDF panel & dogshit polyester back they're asking a lot of money for it.
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>>97185862
See a health professional
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>>97186019
>I got one of these combat patrols and received an extra box of troupes for free.
I'm definitely not going to be that lucky. My box will arrive tomorrow probably.
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>>97186022
It's not particularly interesting honestly. There was a guy in /wip/ that would literally go into full meltdown when people mentioned buying anything GSW. Even the stuff that is actually decent quality and/or actually made in Europe yes they actually have some products like that. He'd claim you can get the exact same shit on ali/temu but could never provide a single link. He was probably just shitposting but he derailed quite a number of threads with this garbage.
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>>97186045
It's 50$ where I live. Everything looks to be much more expensive.
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>>97186019
here's my list:
Eldrad (detach is CP hungry)
2 warlocks (to babysit eldrad)
solitaire
death jester
shadowseer
troupe master with weaver's tail
troupe master
troupe master
11 troupe
5 troupe
5 troupe
6 troupe
4 skyweavers
4 skyweavers
4 skyweavers
starweaver
starweaver
wave serpent

you can replace the warlocks with 5 rangers to be throwaway point scorers and bait.
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>>97186031
Space Wolves are gay though
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What do you do when your opponent aggressively asks to see your list?
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>>97186058
This seems to be awfully low model count. Is that correct? Arent they fragile? No one plays them so I have no idea.
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>>97186054
I'm probably in the minority, but I've always found the /wip/ schizos to be some of the most annoying. They're all the same, posting random opinions they've made about a brand or technique in response to people's work and then absolutely shredding the thread with shitstirring when people tell them to fuck off.
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>>97186061
True, the frost axes are cool though, so I'll give them that.
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>>97186031
>>97186076
This is (You).
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>>97186076
You talk to yourself a whole lot
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>>97186075
The heyday of the army painter varnishfag was something else
Him withering away and disappearing after people pointed out the inconsistencies in his example grid was pretty great to see though
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>>97186072
Harlequins have an army-wide 4++.
They're much less fragile than most T3 armies and they're fast and tricky so they don't get shot back very often. You can turn off overwatch and easily jump back into transports after fighting, for example.
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>>97186072
They are somewhat fragile but they have a lot of movement shenanigans to not get hit back.
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>>97186075
Most of them as not persistent as the schizos here though.
>>97186091
I don't care about AP but I've seen people on other websites mentioning that white spirit reactivated their fanatic paints so he was definitely not completely off the mark.
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I am new to 40k tabletop getting into it after playing the video games.

I managed to get the champions of slaanesh box for cheap ($200) because i liked the appeal of their playstyle (precision objectives and fast paced movement)

What models would be a good plan to expand into to make a decent army list?
I assume more lord exultants and kakaphonists for the noise marines?
Is fulgrim worth the investment since he just got a detachment about himself?
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>>97186056
I think $50 is okay, it goes for around $100 here.
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>>97186051
>I'm definitely not going to be that lucky. My box will arrive tomorrow probably.
I wasnt lucky per se. The troupe master I received had a broken sword so I emailed GW about it and they sent me an extra.
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>>97186058
>1 box of skyweavers is 60 bucks
6 boxes for one army sounds expensive af desu.
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>>97186132
I can send you scans if you want.
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>>97186140
scans?
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>>97186091
>>97186075
>>97186054
>>97186022
>>97185982
Brand loyalty autism is quite the mental-drug in these parts.
I remember when an anon or anons were talking about how reformulated Vallejo paints have a bubble problem and most said it was a skill issue.
But with time more reports of it started to come out and the "bubble schizo" turned out to be vindicated as time passed by.
Anons just didn't want to accept that the paints they grew used to could not be replaced by the new reformulation because the reformulation was a downgrade at the time.

I hope Vallejo quietly fixed that issue though.
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>>97186107
Most acrylics will react to be vigorously scrubbed with anything without a sealing layer over top
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>>97186143
I wasn't the bubble schizo but I brought up the issue a couple times as well and I got A LOT of shit for that.
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>>97186120
Generally CoS, Battleforce and Combat patrol set you up for pretty much any angle to where you'd just need transports and daemon prince/two
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>>97186124
Oh. I'm buying from a LGS so no chance of that happening either.
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>>97186150
Is the battleforce box.combat patrol worth?
I see alot of reviews and some pros saying flawless blades are garbage and not worth playing.
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>>97184290
So I've seen this photoshop posted like 100 times now, why havnt you just made the conversion yet? Your proof of concept is good, what exactly are you waiting for? I want to see that kroot dragon already!
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>>97186142
Nta but he's talking about 3d scanned stls for 3d printers
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>>97186170
He just wants people to engage with him so he can post the rape dragon again.
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>>97186120
Another unit of Noise Marines, Combat Patrol and a Daemon Prince or two. You could also try to get the Christmas Battleforce if it's still available.

You also need 2 Rhinos. I recommend getting the Horus Heresy ones instead of the 40k CSM because the 40k ones are old.

>>97186163
Yes the Battleforce and Combat Patrol are worth it. People started using Flawless Blades recently but also remember that we are close to the new edition and since Flawless Blades are a bit underpowered now they will be turbo busted next edition.
That's how it goes with GW.

The Battleforce is LIMITED so if you don't get it now it will be gone and it's the best way to get Fulgrim.
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>>97186170
>why havnt you just made the conversion yet?
It isn't actually possible.
The kroot parts are too small for drogon
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>>97186177
Here is a good Fulgrim list you can aim to build.
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>>97186177
I know I've said it plenty but I absolutely love ECs base color scheme.
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>>97185950
Why you would ever use mdf, the shittiest material there is, for transporting your thousand dollar armies around is beyond me. At least use the jucoci plastic versions. My brother has one of their smaller white ones and its quite nice. For larger stuff get a Really Useful Box and Send Cut Send a square of adhesive backed steel.
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>>97186148
>and I got A LOT of shit for that.
Yeah people loved Vallejo paints pre-reformulation.
They were genuinely good paints and Vallejo provided the acrylics for wargamers and scale model hobbyists.
And there is also the hipster mentality people get when not using the most popular thing. In the hobby painting case it is from not using Citadel paints.

The new big boy that most hobbyists in this part of the internet seemed to have latched onto now seems to be AK Interactive.
When (I hope it never happens because I like AK paints) starts to decline in quality the cycle will repeat itself.
I will say that if one wants to limit himself to a single brand's paint "ecosystem" I'd say that AK is probably the best choice. They're now releasing acrylic washes to compete with Citadel's washes and ArmyPainter's washes.
Maybe I've fallen into the brand loyalty pit again from saying that. I do have an interest in Steamforged Games' released formula P3 paints that were made for WarmaHordes.
And I do like some of the metallic paints that Pro Acryl offers.
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>>97186170
no actually plays kroot and actual tau players just want 40 copies of the same identical mech suit

if they do a dragon it should go to nids because thats a player base that would actually appreciate it
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>>97186177
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>>97186193
Quitter talk.
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>>97185950
i just want someone to make a backpack with the perfect dimensions to fit a few stacked really useful boxes
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>>97186217
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>>97186177
The earliest i'd have funding for the battleforce would be after new year, so hopefully some places will still have stock in after then.

>>97186196
Lucius seems awkward? he's a non-bo with the units he's supposed to lead, since he loses most of his stuff if he's leading them.
Also is there a reason to take 3x5 infractors and 1x5 torm and not just 2x10 infractors/torms?
Not really sold on the spawn either, i know 40k isnt a cheap hobby but $50 for two non-character frontline models that dont even have good saves is robbery.
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>>97186238
Lucius is supposed to run solo, Infractors are running with Exultants as small blenders, tormentors are for utility, spawn are cheap chaff you send forth to tie something down before your main lads arrive. You use what you have. EC don't have a big roster. If you don't want Fulgrim you can get 2-3 Daemon Princes. Maulerfiend in that list is for Knights.
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I wish I wasnt the worlds slowest most adhd ass painted that wants to build 18 fucking armies at once.
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>>97186258
Bruh i'm the same way, I have to get so high that I don't wanna move and get hyper fixated on the model to finish it.
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wait, how the fuck genestealer cults can field imperial guard units?
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is this amount of wiring suitably dense?
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>>97186275
newfag.
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>>97186289
Yes
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>>97186292
they always could? i dont remember this at all
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>>97186289
Almost too dense imo, kinda looks like a campfire rn but that's probably only because the wires are all one colour.
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>>97186304
Since they got their plastic range they've been able to do that
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>>97186314
oh i see
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>>97186027
>That simply doesn't work in GWs modern design ethos, my system is mathematic and has no ambiguity
your system is just as against gw's design ethos and going to cause arguments as that other system of tokens

and it's not going to show flanks or rears either
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Are Aeldari getting anything during this new narrative campaign?
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>>97186338
Curse Hairs of Ear Reels
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>>97186338
small wave of eldar corsairs
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>>97186338
Are Eldar shit skinned when born or is this supposed to be a funny picture?
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>>97186120
what happened to your hair, bro?
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>>97186355
There were dark skinned Aeldari in Voidscarred by Mike Brooks. It's nothing surprising.
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>>97186120
What is this. You're saying you had a slaanesh box but I dont see it.
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>>97186377
Ok but both his parents are white, why is the baby black? Is their adoption on Eldar worlds?
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>>97186377
>trooned out author adds blacked eldari
yes that is not a surprise
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>>97186375
Alopecia.
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>>97186384
They probably have an arrangement.
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>>97186396
>Alopecia.
he asked about your hair, not your name
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>>97186338
Bro I bope its corsairs
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>>97186095
Do dire avengers get spears?
t. clueless
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>>97186411
It's an Exarch weapon.
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>>97186413
Lame.
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>>97186225
No, they actually are.
Drogon is like the size of the star drake. While the krootox is a bit larger than an ogryn model iirc.
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>make progress on model
>feel hyped to make more progress
Aw ye now I've got MOMENTUM
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They don't look that dated.
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>>97186435
>hellion feet
Do hellions got any female models?
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>>97186435
scourges are fine. Maybe. the rest need an update.
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>>97186438
It's all the same feet.
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>>97186438
take it easy there big fella
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>>97186435
they aren't, they got made in the golden age of plastic kits
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>>97186438
Yeah 2/5 are female.
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>>97186459
Hnnnng
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>>97186438
Yes they have females but you can also use the Wych kit leftovers to make all of them female.
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>>97186455
I wish models were still as modular as the Dark Eldar. You can do whatever you want with them easily without any cutting.
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>>97186481
Monopose is more profitable. Sorry anon
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>>97186413
OP here
Lame
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>>97186481
It really bothers me how the legs are so spread that they're almost off the model.
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>>97186504
It's because of the massive butt plug
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>>97186355
Just a meme
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>>97186537
Much better
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>>97186537
Aww.
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>>97186546
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>>97186546
Yikes!
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>>97185989
Salamanders do have drakeblades however.
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>>97186575
Beaks go hard
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>>97186546
Peak. A mother, who defend her child against all evil
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>>97186594
she and her baby are evil though
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>>97186606
If a Knight stepped on them both I wouldn't give it a second thought.
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>>97186612
You're a monster.
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>>97186594
she might have stolen that kid

trueborn are valuable
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>>97186619
Well ok if she were hot like pic related I might think about her briefly later.
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>>97186606
No, dark eldar are not evil when imperium exist
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>>97186652
imperium is the only good thoughbeit
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Do you think there is anything gw can do to stop its hype train?
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>>97186289
Damn, that servitor has been going to the gym a lot.
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>>97186652
>The guys who torture trillions of people to save their own skin toootally aren't evil
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>>97186670
>looks awful when first shown
this part is fake news
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>>97186670
>>>/v/
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>>97186684
doubt it
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>>97186684
yeah thats downplaying how abysmally dogshit both hyeans and 40k total war looked.
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>>97184501
Burrito, rare.
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>>97185060
Felinid colonization in proces
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>>97184590
who the fuck are they even fighting anymore? still humans?
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>>97186688
There's been a lot of false flagging about it. Pelple saying it looked the same size as DoW when every ork or guard unit had 10 times the size of their DoW counterparts.
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>>97186718
I dunno ask /v/
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>>97186718
Go back to /vg/
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>>97186652
Imperium isn't good and over all is a net-negative for humanity and the galaxy, but lets not kid ourselves here, dark eldar are as bad as chaos.
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>>97186679
Imperium did the same for shits and giggles
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>>97186718
>Pelple saying it looked the same size as DoW
That's true
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>>97186750
They are humans so they are in the right.
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>>97186031
>>97186076
Did someone say axes?
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>>97186764
Darn str8!
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>>97186750
No they didn't tourist
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>>97186764
>imperium are the heckin good guys !!
kys
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>>97186764
I mean so were the elite on Epstein's island.
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>>97186768
If "not one to be fucked with" had a look.
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>>97186755
How?
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>>97186779
>nooo you don't get it! its making fun of you!
play in traffic, libtard fuck!
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>>97186776
Get filtred, monkeigh
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>>97186779
They are without question the consensus good guys in the setting, pretending otherwise is an immediate identifier of mental illness.
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>>97186811
>good guys in the setting
Definetly CWE
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>>97186794
>how's this RTS game based on the same IP, with same factions, with similiar gameplay, similiar to one another?
This is like asking what's the difference between a shire horse and a clydesdale horse
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>>97186718
>Pelple saying it looked the same size as DoW
They aren't wrong at all.
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>>97186803
I guess it's no surprise the resident lolcow has absolutely dogshit opinions
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You know, humans and orks aren't so different; we're both predisposed to follow the tallest and most powerful member of our species.
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>>97186835
>>97186842
I asked how does it look the same size as DoW when units are ten times bigger.
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>>97186847
That's not me you dumb hippy
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>>97186847
The aosfag lover wants to talk about dogshit.
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>>97186811
>they are le good guys because they are le hoomans
40k humans are evil pieces of shit and none of them deserve to live.
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>>97186850
You literally said it yourself. It's just DoW but with units that are 10x bigger.
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>>97186851
>>97186855
I bet you're excited for the latest capeshit slop
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>>97186855
I love how that ratfag proved you wrong once and has lived rent free in your mind for a week already
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>>97186882
everyone is excited for Doomsday
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>>97186890
They are never adding skaven to 40k.
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>>97186890
Use GSC rules for skaven.
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>>97186869
If it's 10 times bigger then it can't be the same size as DoW you illiterate fuck.
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>>97186882
I'm just waiting for Russ to come back
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>>97186947
keep dreaming, it's gonna be Khan alongside a DE refresh
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>>97186946
>uhh durr it's not the same because it's slightly bigger
This is like saying fucking CoD is no longer Cod if you made the maps 10x larger.
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>>97186911
>>97186940
Thank you for proving my point
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>>97186309
it'll be a pain in the ass to paint all the cables but at least there'll be enough visual interest

>>97186677
>where do you work out?
at the manufactorum
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>>97186956
Of all the things that are never going to happen, one of those things is the most never going to happen
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>>97186961
nta but DoW is all about capturing points, getting reinforcements, with small squads of ten men etc.
TT is about field of battle and flanking, charging, nuke spells, involving units of hundreds of men each.
Its like playing Age of Empires vs playing Civilization (if not using Total War as a direct example)
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>>97187002
Is that how all the TW games made for consoles play? Because TWW40k is made for consoles.
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>>97187002
And they'll make TW 40k into same as DoW. It'll 100% be about capturing points and shit like that.
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>>97186961
If you could read you'd know the question is how can it be the same size as DoW.
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>>97186997
pretty cool
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>>97186956
Its happening for Christmas
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>>97186793
>if "fuckboy" had a look
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>>97187037
Merry Russmas
Or
Happy Khannakha
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>>97184275
No, Warframe is the one with the LGTB evangelion ninja kids and banger songs.
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>>97187077
I played Warframe once. I ended up quitting it because I was harassed by some indian guy who thought I was a woman because my nickname was gender ambiguous and just wouldn't leave me alone no matter what I said.
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>>97187104
like the jeet here who calls everyone /v/ermin
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>>97187151
>Still seething about that BLfag months later
lol
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>>97187151
lmao so he's a jeet? that explains A LOT
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>>97185209
Sorry, looks like I missed a real shitshow while I was in hell.
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>>97187167
Nah, the one you're replying to tried to hit some guy with a "post models" and he did so that guy instead deflected to his handwriting because he couldn't post models in response
I'm pretty sure the guy who posted models posted his hands after that too
This anon's been mindbroken ever since
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>>97185209
Nice TSons King
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Oh look another edited image to evade filters from the ban evader
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>>97187209
This really is the drama central of /tg/ huh?
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>>97187218
it got hidden for me
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>>97187218
Show me the previously edited pic, go ahead I'll wait.
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>>97187221
Most popular wargame means the most offboard raiders coming to shitpost and derail
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>>97187210
How many thousands and thousands of dollars have you spent on minis only to have no one willing to play with you?
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>>97187197
this shitshow is the norm nowadays unfortunately
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>>97187231
>offboard raiders
decalmutant owns more models then you and your friend rasheed
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>>97187235
Sorry I couldn't hear you over all the fun I have while playing games, maybe you should buy your first model schizo.
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>>97187221
What you didn't know what becky said about stacey's models? Get a load of this tourist quaternary!
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>>97187239
(you) tried
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>>97187221
it really feels like a girls locker room in high school or someshit
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>>97187221
its still crazy to think this all happened because one guy got ticked off by some ss runes on a space wolf tank
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>>97187261
Why don't you just post some models chief
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>>97187277
>One guy
>SS runes
Nope!
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>>97187287
That's literally what happened
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>>97187287
You can pretend and lie that you're after decalmutant's scalp because he was rude to you once or some such other nonsense but its clear as day you think you're on some crusade against a literal nazi.
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>>97187294
Nice try tourist-kun
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>>97186422
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>>97187261
im not surprised. the hobby is about grown ass men collecting toys and painting them. theres bound to be a handful of individuals who are mentally stunted
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>>97186435
Likely they will update kabilites and witches to the new scale of eldar models (which is to say about a half mm taller in the legs and waist. That is if the new guardian kit is anything to go off of.
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>>97187345
but enuff about you
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>>97187345
warhammer is for +12 and up
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>>97187242
Holy shit it's a new photo! He did it everyone! Its over! We can stop now! Praise be its a Christmas miracle.
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>>97185470
Illegal model placement. Can't stand somewhere if your base overhangs.
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>>97187379
Its not new, I've posted it before.
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>>97187297
(you)
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>>97187280
I already did
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>>97187393
where are the ss runes on that pred?
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>>97187399
I removed them
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>>97187242
Why do your models look so gay?
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>>97187406
This is primary school tier behavior anon, grow up.
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>>97185209
my farsight conversion
wrapping up work this week which will give me plenty of time to finish my christmas box
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>>97187416
Wow he looks incredible anon!
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>>97187411
Report these retards that been posting and teach them this isn't the 6-7 meme hichschool.

Remember everyone, it tis the Season and so tis the time all the 12 year olds run to the internet.
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>>97187411
Then stop falling for it. You don't have to respond to every little bit of rage bait. Learn to just let things go.
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>>97187261
I, unfortunately, visited the vtuber board after that one anon kept posting them here to see if they actually paint or play there and I shit you not, the first thread I clicked on was a mirror of this one; Thread celeb drama being met with a "post merch" when called out.
I will now blame the vtuber thread celeb for all of the problems here and be told to post models thus continuing the cycle.
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>>97187411
See a doctor
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I will now respond to people in this with "post merch" when someone says something I disagree with
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>>97187332
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Would a heldrake fall into heat the moment it sees a rhino
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>>97187455
dunno ask /hhg/
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>>97185964
>What causes this?
The codex fluff that describes the Iron Warriors as being unwilling and unwitting puppets to chaos that think they're the ones in control. Stupid people for some reason choose to drop one aspect or the other of this and interpret them as either untainted renegades or bog-standard chaos fanboys.
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>>97187465
what does any of that have to do with hhg
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>>97187472
My bad. Ask /d/
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>>97187437
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New thread
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>>97187126
>>97187126
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>>97187437
This is what schizophrenic rationale looks like folks
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>>97186670
I can't help but kneel before the titanic failure TW40k will be. It looks dreadful and will one day kill CA in its current desperate as fuck state. Few bankruptcies could make me happier than if Bungie studios exploded with everyone inside back in the late 2000s or if Mihoyo gets raped by walruses or if Disney or Hasbro are systematically forced to get assfucked until they explode.
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>>97186670
>CONSOLE
>R
>T
>S
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How can you look at this and still want to play Loyalists? Chaos has unmatched swagger.



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