Infernal Theorycrafting Edition>What is Exalted?An epic high-flying role-playing game about reborn god-heroes in a world that turned on them.Start here:http://theonyxpath.com/category/worlds/exalted/>That sounds cool, how can I get into it?Read the 3e core book (link below). For mechanics of the old edition, play this tutorial:http://mengtzu.github.io/exalted/sakuya.htmlIt’ll get you familiar with most of the mechanics.>Gosh that was fun. How do I find a group?Roll20 and the Game Finder General here on /tg/. good luck>Resources for Third Edition>3E Core and Splatshttps://www.mediafire.com/folder/b54o6teut3fx6/Exalted_3e>Errata for Third Editionhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1n3ooTmopm3CBxW5jwPp1761xsaIccea-5XIhVM_PQEc/edit>Other Ex3 Resourceshttps://pastebin.com/fG1mLMdu (embed)>Resources for Older Editionshttps://pastebin.com/BXSGuFdQ (embed)>Current Quixalted Extended QE Version (Fanmade Supplement)https://files.catbox.moe/rjgmo5.pdf>Optional Quixalted Exaltshttps://www.mediafire.com/file/jg86yrewnhx2ov3/QE_Reject3eExaltHomebrew.pdf/file>Exalted Demake/Black Vault (Now with updates):https://pastebin.com/Tt1PjuYt (embed)https://pastebin.com/qHRW9N51 (embed)>collection of Exalted Hackshttps://pastebin.com/gtZnycJs (embed)>stuff that might be interestinghttps://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/the-exalted-thread-with-no-original-ideas.317216/Previous Thread: >>97180991>TQ: Now that we have stats for him, how do we kill Ligier?
>>97198276Rape.
You fuck Ligier, you don't kill him. Or you use the social rules to rape him, something that's 100% allowed. In fact I have it on good authority that people in this very thread have had their characters raped by social rules and were too scared to do anything when it happened. It's very sad.
Communityfag is a cancer on these threads.
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>only literal schizophrenics like 3e's social system
>>97198276>TQI suplex him.
>>97198613Oh, plenty of people like it. It's pretty good. I'd suggest you talk about it in other places but I'm pretty sure you've either been banned or would be banned from them for being what you are.>>97198605I'm sorry I interrupted your 10,000 post where you cry about a game you never learned the rules for.
I'm looking for an old homebrew first circle demon and I'm hoping one of you might remember it. I believe it fed on dreams or emotions and often covered itself in fog as it flew through the city. I think it might have been descend from one of Hegra or Oramus's souls.
O Anons, regale me with your tales, campaigns, or encounters with Infernals.
>>97198276Theorycrafting? Also, we’re in the last 24 hours people! No time to lose! What are your favorite stretch goals, BTW?
>>97198880I've used them purely as antagonists, so I don't think that's relevant to you.
>>97198590>You fuck Ligier, you don't kill him.To the chagrin of the devs, yes.The same way you try to make daddy sun happy.
>>97198880I keep seeing people trying the be an infernal crafter in 2e and I don't know why that pops up so much.
>>97198927Romance like that (deep, fulfilling, romantic, dangerous) doesn't really work at a lot of tables. Honestly though I'm sure the devs prefer people trying to fuck the Yozis 3rd circle souls way more then the Yozi themselves.Although Adorjan fucks that all up so who actually knows.
Ligier's purpose is to gracefully concede just before he unleashes his full power, because losing at his full strength would mean that he isn't perfect, peerless and invincible and his pride won't allow that.
You will never be a real Exalt. You have no themes, you have no history, you have no impact. You are a schizophrenic WtA expy twisted by moonsilver tattoos and animal hormones into a crude mockery of divine perfection.All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back Yu-Shan mock you. Luna is disgusted and ashamed of you, your “Solar Mates” laugh at your Deviantart appearance behind closed doors.Dragonblooded are utterly bored of you. Hundreds of years of failed assassinations have allowed mere mortals to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even Lunars who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a Dynast. Your Tell is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to kill a drunk Cadet-House Scion, the Wyld Hunt will converge the second they gets a whiff of your stinking animal musk.You will never be relevant. You wrench out a proud roar every single night and tell yourself it’s going to get better, but deep inside you feel the irrelevancy creeping up like a Yazi Clan poisoner, ready to consign you to the blade of Saturn.Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll go to the middle of nowhere, fuck a few animals, make a few mutant beastfolk, try to conquer something, get wrecked and turned into an antagonist dealt with in a single session. Your Shahan-Ya will find you, heartbroken but relieved that you no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll probably eat you and shit out your entrails like a fucking animal, and Lytek will make another note that a Lunar succumbed to their own ineptitude. Your Exaltation will go to another unfortunate Infernal-reject, and all that will remain of your legacy is a Territory that is unmistakably lead by Mortals.This is your fate. This is what Luna chose. There is no turning back.
>>97198276>>TQ: Now that we have stats for him, how do we kill Ligier?Seduce him and then death by snu snu
>>97199031I wonder if Holden actually based the lore of his version of Heart-Eaters on this pasta.
>>97198946Playing one right nowBit of an interesting experience in that he's usually worse than a Solar at it but he can just print near unlimited exotic ingredients and resources on top of getting stupidly high rolls if he's in a wyld zone thanks to Principle Invoking Onslaught and Constructive Convergence of Principles. It actually fits the "Villain with unlimited resources who shows up with a new plot" archetype pretty well even if he'd be fucked if the circle ever loses the tiny territory around a wyld zone we managed to carve out
>>97199031>and all that will remain of your legacy is a Territory that is unmistakably lead by Mortals.you did not need to kill the last few remaining lunarfags in this general
>>97198276Weekly Updatethis one will be a bit blog-esque>Final DraftEssence Storyteller’s GuideOur next big book for Exalted: Essence has been dutifully redlined and is back in the hands of the writers for final drafts!>Art DirectionInfernals (BK) – Backer Kit wrapping up Tomorrow!>Layout QueueEx3 Alchemicals>PressExigents – Content proof OK’d, EU stuff getting addedthe infernals backerkit campaign ends tomorrow at 2EST, donate if you give a shithttps://www.backerkit.com/c/projects/onyx-path/deluxe-exalted-infernalsa kind protonanon has supplied the draft as seen here>>97180991>>97182434>>97191206which another anon has compiled and it's now in the OPnext week will be the last monday meeting for the year and so the last weekly for this year unless something noteworthy comes up, though i'll do the monthly when it comesone last unrelated note. i don't know how many would care, but onyx path's license for Dystopia Rising expires at years end, and it seems the plan is to delist the products from digital sale and scrap what physical stock doesn't sell. so they're of course having a sale. i don't personally care too much aside from seeing how they half-assed the license and are now destroying what they made. so again, get what you can if you give a shithttps://www.drivethrurpg.com/en/product/548883/dystopia-rising-evolution-complete-bundle?affiliate_id=13&src=OnyxPathWedshttps://studio2publishing.com/products/dystopia-rising-evolutionhttps://studio2publishing.com/products/dystopia-rising-evolution-gm-screenhttps://www.indiepressrevolution.com/xcart/Last-Chance/ but that's the ex3 screen
>>97199031the original post for that is written in such a goofy anime villain style. its something sephiroth would say to cloud before cloud hits him with omnislash.
>>97199211>Dystopia RisingThis is my first time hearing about this, they had this license for how long?
>>97199221since at least before midwinter 2018, so around 8 years
>>97199289They need to study better marketing techniques.
At $175,000 in Funding - Infernals Companion: The Face of the TitansLess then 1k away from getting more Yozi lore and possible advice on how to date them. Don't let my poor ass down guys, you have to make it happen.
Should have had this in my post above but whatever.>An in-depth look at the forbidden pacts and unholy power of warlocks, including the temptation of new Eclipse Charms will be added to the Infernals Companion supplement. This doesn't seem all that cool for a stretch goal. I mean, what, more spirit charms? Ehhhh...
>>97199421>>97199431….did they add more goals since yesterday?
>>97199431Just because no one has ever played an Akuma before doesn't mean storytellers don't use them sometimes.
>>97199484I guess turning into an Akuma would be a forbidden pact. I was thinking more.. well, spirit charms. I wasn't really sure what they were talking about lol.
>>97199421I wonder if Infernals will surpass Exigents in revenue
>>97199528I hope so, I really like them.
>>97199535They already did surpass Alchemicals, now the question is what will come next.
>>97199528Exigents was written for almost no bucks. It wont beat it in terms of profit margin even with this.
The crowdfunding platform seems to affect the revenue, the backerkit Alchemicals have a noticeable drop in the number of backers.
>>9719921341%
Any cool new sorcerous initiations?
>>97199211Thanks to whoever compiled the manuscript previews into one PDF. Also, what the fuck is this new captcha
>>97199686i like it more than cloudflare's horseshit at least for now
>>97199652They made some that are tailor-made for Vtubers
>>97199213It is unbearably corny, especially when one is posting in the general for Exalted, the gayest rpg written by weird trans women since 2002
>>97199750Talking about it, was it mentioned who or what Oramus was based on? I am pretty sure that Elloge is Moran's self insert.
>>97199775I have no idea.
>>97199208He'll have to try harder. I've read through the Cult of the Illuminated.>>97199478If they get more money, they add more goals. Crowdfunding SOP.
We got our face of the titans boys. Now let's just pray that they tell us how to romance one of these fuckers. I'm thinking either Malfeas or Adorjan.
>>97199859>I've read through the Cult of the Illuminated.Was it that bad for Lunars?
>>97199868Anon Illuminated Lunars literally could not oppose their assigned Solar. They had to sit there and take anything and accrue two points of Limit. They were also Casteless and had fewer Charms, in an edition where getting your spirit shape was not an automatic part of the Second Breath, but a Charm that you had to buy out of your allotment of only six if you were Casteless (Lunars with castes got that for free, plus eight more). They didn't even get extra Ability dots from being in the Illuminated training camps; they just got to eat the worst part of every chargen option.
>>97199910Talking about this, I wonder what happened to make Grabowski hate WtA so much.He even did the "fuck this wolf or Gaia will die" joke.
>>97199910I like the CoI, but it's better to just give bonuses rather than penalties. Like they get buffs for being in the Cool Solar Club
>>97200095A solution is to them restore the old castes, since the penalties are because the Lunars weren't properly introduced to the Silver Pact tribe
>>97198276The campaign has 15 hours left! What did you think of the draft documents? And what are your hopes for the companion content? BTW, I hope we get the latest stretch goal so bad! We can do it!
>>97199421Eh.How much did the original Exalted 3e (Solar) reach again?Also I will consider it if I can fuck not-UCS.
>>97199421>Less then 1k away from getting more Yozi lore and possible advice on how to date them. Don't let my poor ass down guys, you have to make it happen.what the fuck are you talking about, it just means how the demons of the Yozi interact with each other.
>>97200263Please learn to be more subtle with your shilling. Blatant shilling is grating.
>>97200176I mean even beyond that. Like offer a tangible benefit for this alliance.
>>97200263...For some reason when I expanded the image my brain interpreted it as "Werewolves, Crowned by Hellfire" and I was very confused for a moment
>>97200176There's no real indication that the Sidereals could have done that, especially not back in 1e. They could have given them some extra Ability dots (1e loved this), but they didn't even do that. 1e seemed to have presented the Lunar condition as wholly unknown to Sidereals in spite of the two having spent millennia together during the First Age and during the initial war against the Primordials. And Solars? They were mostly presented as clueless about it, too, even in the Twilight book. While there's some odd teaser about the prospect of the Twilights maybe being able to restore the castes, at the end of the day, the Lunars fundamentally changed their Exaltations in 1e (GCG actually flat out said this in one of his rants, I believe the one that included the term "rar!"), and we'll never know if anyone writing canon ever intended this to be a possibility.The only thing we do know is that Cult Lunars go it raw and sideways.>>97199981He was fairly tight-lipped about most everything, so it's still anyone's guess.
How do you guys like to portray the Unconquered Sun, personality-wise? I know he's not really a relevant character for a vast, vast majority of games. I've just been idly thinking about the best way to handle him lately. I dislike the Glories: Sun version of him and really hate the story about him surrendering himself to Primordials to save a single mortal's life, but I think there's enough talk of righteousness in relation him since the very beginning that he shouldn't just be a sleazy opportunist, either. I've been thinking about a framework of righteousness that's consistent with him rebelling for personal gain and being cool with Dragon King heart sacrifices, and I'd welcome ideas and discussion about this. A couple of different ideas I've had: Sun's basic worldview might actually be pretty close to the Immaculate Philosophy, obviously not in terms of Dragon-Blooded supremacy but in terms of it being correct for each and everyone to stick to their place, not reach above it and focus on doing their job to the absolute best of their capacity. It is right to give king fealty and tribute, and it is right for the king to enjoy the privileges of his position, but the king, too, should strive to do his job of protecting and maintaining what is his. Feeling that Primordials did not act in a manner worthy of their position could've been a part of what prompted him to rebel. On the other hand, I like the idea of some kind of a bold, ambitious, excellence-based morality, where righteousness is striving to reach as high as you can and inspiring others to do the same, where settling for less is worthy of disdain, and where preventing others from pursuing greatness or convincing them to abandon such pursuit is the heart of wickedness. In that framework, I'd see the UCS as a genuinely loving father-like figure who wants everyone to be all they can be, but stern and demanding, intensely disappointed when people fall short of their maximum potential.
>>97200635>1e seemed to have presented the Lunar condition as wholly unknown to Sidereals in spite of the two having spent millennia together during the First Age and during the initial war against the Primordials.I have to wonder if there could be any reason for that. There are definitely unshaped raksha who could erase or blunt memories of someone who walked into them. The Sucking Tide drinks names, and the Winding Path eats the memory of your origin, destination, and name, as examples. The latter might have made everybody forget that the Lunars who walked it came from Creation? Seems like the kind of curse that could both exist and do the job.
>>97200860The concept of unshaped raksha didn't exist until Sidereals had already been written, and it probably wouldn't have been retconned in very well, given the history of retcons toward the end of 1e. Also, having everyone forget about Lunars would have been a repeat of Arcane Fate, and you know that would never fly if it infringed on Sidereals enjoying time as The Special.
>>97198276>Infernal Theorycrafting EditionDoes an Infernal's artifact armour adjust to fit their new form when they activate their Devil-body, or do they need Moonsilver armour or a specific Evocation to let them do so? For instance, if they were wearing a suit of Gunzosha Armour when they Exalted and it also went through the Chrysalis Grotesque with them, should it also change alongside them when their Devil-Body activates?
>>97200738I don't think the first one is a good fit. Even a goody two-shoes US could be fine with the heart sacrifices depending on how it's done since he still wouldn't have modern morality or its frameworks. Like, if he's cool with capital punishment, sacrificing criminals is fine. Captured warriors too depending on why the war was being fought. Offering up yourself for sacrifice and honor duels involve consenting individuals. Just don't sacrifice the powerless and innocent.
>>97198890I like the 175K one, yozi info, although maybe that should have been in the 500 page book from the beginning
>>97199213Like 13 years, that game is the first storypath
>>97201056>I don't think the first one is a good fit. Fair enough, but what part of it seems like a bad fit? I'm not married to that idea, but a strictly hierarchical wordview based on reciprocal but unequal relationships seems to me decently fitting for the King of Heaven.
>>97200360Just shy if 685K
Had to do a second reread but im surprised that the Infernals draft barely talks about the Unwoven Coadjutors>>97200263>And what are your hopes for the companion content?Even if they're written by 3e devs I want a bunch of 1st Circle demons
>>97201020I'm not saying that it canonically happened, I'm saying that it would explain a lot.
>>97201074Most do to what he looks at for his Exalts. It's hypocritical to Exalt people outside of their proper roles in life.
>>97201096>Had to do a second reread but im surprised that the Infernals draft barely talks about the Unwoven CoadjutorsApparently the Coadjutor is now mostly just a fluff thing unless you take a charm to gain any mechanical benefits, but it starts a tree that ends with you turning your Coadjutor into a fucking feitch/first 3rd Circle soul at Essence 3>Even if they're written by 3e devs I want a bunch of 1st Circle demonsSame, if I could've gotten my dream book for 2e it would've been "Roll of Glorious Divinity 3: Oops, all First Circles"
>>97200360>Also I will consider it if I can fuck not-UCS.We already passed that benchmark, though I have my doubts they'll include Rule63!UCS: Sexually Aggressive Loli edition in it, but it'd be hilarious if they did
>>97201121Eh, it's not necessarily hypocritical to rise by the grace of the king, and surely the role of an Exalt's not the same as that of a mortal. But sure, it's true that he does Exalt people who do struggle to rise above their position in life. Maybe the excellence-based worldview would be a better fit.
>>97201124>Apparently the Coadjutor is now mostly just a fluff thing unless you take a charm to gain any mechanical benefitsSo same as always, then?
>>97201154Except for that "is a third circle soul" thing, sure.
>>97201154Pretty much, yeah, except instead of being a merit it's now a charm that grants you one benefit of the 2e background a scene, with an upgrade that turns it into a once a day roll of Essence+Willpower for your successes motes, another that turns it into your fetich soul (unbreakable defining principle, grants you all benefits of the Coadjutor charm permanently, and makes the 1/day roll for more motes free), another that lets you spawn up to 7 2CDs for said fetich, and finally one that lets you externalize your fetich with keys that allow you to make more 3CDs for your soul pantheonThem and the Inner-world charms are pretty much "Be a Devil-tiger" charms sans the "Your own personal Excellency" at Essence 3
>>97201188While I dislike a lot of it, I do find it mildly amusing that "INFINITE DEMONS OF MYSELF, NO OTHER CHARMS" looks to be a viable build for 3e Infernals
Not really about Infernals, but can I just say that I really hate it when 3e gives nonsensical resistance rolls to defeat supernatural effects?I'm going to point at Supernal Awareness for this. You're observing the webs of fate around you, automatically detecting everybody participating in a particular activity of your choice... unless they are concealing the activity or their involvement in it? How in the actual fuck are they concealing their fate? Don't say 'oh but Secrets are all about hiding things and the comingling of fate and reality means hiding things in reality also hides them from fate' or similar ass excuses when this is an Endings charm. Like what does this even mean? You can automatically detect anybody performing the activity unless they're concealed from you... such as, I don't know, being behind a wall? Does the charm actually do nothing except let you recognize when people are doing something within plain sight? Seems silly to me.
>>97201284It sounds pretty straight-forward to me. You pick an activity, like farming. You automatically detect everyone who is farming within range except the people who are trying to hide the fact they are farming, like someone with a secret garden of illegal narcotic flowers.
>>97201366>except the people who are trying to hide the fact they are farming, like someone with a secret garden of illegal narcotic flowers.Okay, now why aren't you detecting them? Them wanting the secret garden to be secret doesn't actually do anything to interact with the webs of fate that you're looking at, after all. Them building a wall around their garden to hide it from people, or killing everyone in the village to keep the secret for that matter, why does that interfere with your ability to read the patterns of fate? It can't, like, make a hole in the web, or you'd just see a hole in the web and bish bosh you've found the activity you were looking for. And in the latter example above, what are you even rolling Perception + Awareness against? Melee, if that's what they used to kill all the villagers? I understand the mechanics just fine, outside edge cases. I'm saying that I hate that they're nonsense.
>>97201397Because they're hiding the garden and that interferes with fate. They don't need to use magic to interfere with fate; the fact they're trying to hide it is sufficient. It's a Sidereal charm, it's supposed to be a bit weird and sideways.As for what they'd roll to hide it, probably Attribute + Larceny, since that's generally the Ability used for criminal activities.
>>97201397I'd be fine with attempts at hiding something working against the Charm as long as there's Essence-use involved. Maybe without an opposed roll, even, but with the Sidereal being aware that there's something supernatural interfering with his awareness - that'd still provide valuable, actionable information. I agree that mundane attempts at secrecy shouldn't do anything, though.
>>97201561The wording of the charm does not require magic use to force the Sidereal to roll to detect it.Otherwise the Sidereal could choose "hiding" at the activity they're looking for and completely trivialise attempts at defeating stealth or criminal activity.
