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>News & Reminders
World Championship 31 won by Seth Manfield (Izzet Lessons, United States, he/him)
Complete winter achievements for rewards December 16-January 6
From November 18, 2025–January 19, 2026 Golden Packs will temporary contain cards differently than before due to "various pieces of internal nonsense"
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/mtg-arena/announcements-december-15-2025

>Useful Links
https://pastebin.com/QFA0hqaA

>TQ
Have you played the brawl challenge, and if so, which commander?
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>>97198774
Nah events are pretty gay now even mwm is pozzed with buy new cards and play them formats. Unrestricted brawl with no mulligans sounds fucking awful and on top of that its 5k gold to enter and you have to keep re entering. If they wanted me to test busted cards in brawl for them i would but im not paying them to do it fucking gaylords.

I only play brawl btw and im still never paying to play it.
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Ugin is a terrible deck lmao
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Lol
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>>97198951
It’s dumb that half of all MWM events are brawl because it’s time consuming to make a brawl deck and I don’t want to phone it in with slime and hare every time, but on the other hand it’s the only way to play brawl without wading into the insufferable tryhard sweatfest that is the everyday brawl queue where everyone is just playing two color goodstuff with ten fetches
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Ok help me cause I might be retarded as I only got back into MTG with FF.

But gogo here tap XX right? Lets just say I pay the minimum of 2 mana.

Does that mean I get two copies of an ability i.e. bahamuts final saga megaflare or does the two mana only get me ONE copy?

Just trying to understand how many copies I get for how much mana I pay
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>open deckbuilder
>have idea of what i want to build
>realize im terrible at deckbuilding
>decision paralysis
>give up and go back to playing my other decks
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>>97199853
Xx would be 11 so you get eleven copies im pretty sure
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>>97199853
One copy. Reading the card explains the card.
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>>97199853
X = 1, you pay {1}{1}, a total of 2
X = 2, you pay {2}{2}, a total of 4
X = 3, you pay {3}{3}, a total of 6
and so on
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>>97200026
>>97200019
>>97200003
conflicting answers across the board
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>>97199853
If you pay (1)(1) then you would get the original ability and one copy. (2)(2) would get you the original and two copies, etc
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>>97200060
you pay 2 mana for each copy you get, it's pretty simple
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Post cards you never see anymore.
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>>97199982
What kind of hipster fag is out there building his own deck? Within hours of any set release, greater, more autistic minds than yours have already functionally solved the current meta for any format you’d want to play. You’re not smarter or more optimal than them. Just build badgermole and call it a day
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>>97200216
The eldrazi deck with no karn or emrakul?
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>>97199982
>put in cards that I wanna play
>put in other cards that support the game plan
>put in some relevant land
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People obsess over this fat pink Elf hoof bitch, meanwhile I'm a Firebending Student enjoyer
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Am I having a stroke or was there a Kiora avatar once? I can't find it in the avatar section or in the store.
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Man Ornate Imitations is fun. Rolling the gacha and getting an Iona is so fucking hilarious. Too bad they always scoop the second it resolves.

the fuck is wrong with this captcha?
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They really need to implement something that tells you the individual strength of cards in Brawl when building.
Several times now I have doctored around with decks and after adjustments I get sent to hell semi-hell queue and I have no idea which cards did it.
This shit is so fucking retarded. And no I don't want to manually count the list from reddit that is a good year old by now..
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>>97201590
There’s a spreadsheet somewhere that has a list of all the cards and their MMR weight in brawl, the values leaked some time ago. Look it up. Thoughtseize is max weight for example
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>discard deck with no wincon except making a single 1/1 fish per turn with fountainport
yeah have a rope nigger
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What are the most playable common & uncommon snow permanents that aren't wasted straight after the achievment?
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>>97200112
If you aren't playing 4x of these in your Standard deck, you aren't playing honest Magic.
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Btw Brawl players are the biggest bots. When they see troll snow commanders their natural reaction ain't to concede and make life easier for both of us but sweat their ass off for 25 gold
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Why should I not build a Yedora landfall brawl deck?
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why the FUCK won't they let me set "view simplified" so I don't have to play against practically illegible ugly full art cards with fake fucking names? You'd think the "hide alternate card styles" toggle would be enough but no
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>>97202216
cus you might upset all the babies itt who cry about landfall
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What's the most hateful deck I can play to ruin everyone in the queue's day? Any format except Brawl or Timeless.
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I think there's something wrong with my opponent's dog.
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Are you guys building themed decks for Winter and the achievements?
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>>97204702
Nah fuck achievements im just here to bully.
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>>97198774
Do planeswalkers count as commanders?
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>>97207261
A planeswalker can be assigned as a commander for a brawl deck, and then he counts as a commander
Otherwise, no
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mythic bo1
I start the game with 2 leylines
opponent plays land, soul guide lantern
ropes out on his turn with ability to crack it for no effect and never passes
goes to my turn, he ropes out again, while mousing over permanents
goes to his turn, he ropes out again, loses

that's the MTGA experience
just straight fucking cancer
the single worst way to experience MTG
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>saved up enough to draft
>realized I dont really want to
>opened up 10 foundations packs
>not a single playable card for standard, standard brawl or regular brawl
How? I know theres good cards in there
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>>97207791
>buy lottery tickets
>don't hit any jackpot
>how? I know there's prizes in there
should've learned how to draft lol
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>>97198774
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>>97207841
Its so boring though
My time is worth more than that
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>>97207791
>>97208386
the entire point of playing draft is that you can open packs but its not technically a complete waste of money because you build a deck and play also
if you'd just opening packs then you're just wasting money
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>>97208386
If you don't like it, you don't like it. Just don't expect to have much in the way of cards or wildcards. Though tbf now with more sets every year, even drafters are getting crunched out.
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Just buy the gems its a good deal really
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>>97207841
>>97208620
Drafting ain't they way if you only care about Timeless. 99/100 rares will be duds to you and a lil progress on the wildcard wheel is worth infinitely more than almost getting your entry back sometimes.
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I kind of want to buy the voiced emotes just to spam "SECRET TUNNEL" every game
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I really like this card
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>>97201137
Hell of a fun spell, have it as a finisher in Green Devotion on top of the normal stuff. They don't always fold, but seeing 2-3 titans and a bunch of other stuff out of nowhere tends to get those folds.
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>>97210043
Feels like Sothera would be better in most cases
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So with these Winter Achievements, I’m just supposed to throw these games making food tokens and giving them to my opponent?
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>>97211279
As a retarded Timmy I have to say the crystal looks cooler
But also why not both?
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>3 izzet discard troons ALL get ALL eight of their only removal cards in a row
yeah nice try niggards of the coast
hope your paypig faggot customers love getting power roped for half an hour straight
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>>97213195
Are you saying the game gives you better draws if you paypig?
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>>97213202
It’s been statistically proven that alternate card arts have a higher draw probability
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Standard is unplayable. Has there been a single good Standard since Eldraine released?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw2HV9NtEqQ
Get in here bros

>>97213501
Standard was good until the June bans
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>>97214053
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i was on the same flight with this guy to an scgcon once
gl lil nigga
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new jank
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>>97214462
I'm pretty sure that dude has delivered my Uber Eats a couple of times
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now this is the hard-hitting content I subscribed for
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bro threw :skull:
another canada w
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god fucking dammit
I have
>4 starting town
>4 multiversal passage
>4 watery grave
>2 swamp
>2 gloomlake verge
only 2 lands in the whole deck don't make black on turn 1 and it would still work if I had a hand with siren or stormchaser since opal would make the black
I was even on the play, this is turn 0, I ALMOST had the turn 1 dream

I kept it, opponent left as soon as leyline of the void touched the table
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>>97215231
https://youtu.be/mYuF3T7s7XY
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>Brawl lets me believe my shitty, poorly built deck is optimal because it has a high winrate
>in reality I am insulated from good decks due to deck rating
thank you wotc for making a system that benefits me specifically.
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>>97215854
meanwhile I make the worst deck I can make, monowhite no good cards, as low rarity as possible, no synergy at all. Still seeing galos, tergrid, magda, jodah, kenrith, go-shintai.
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Look at turn 2 in pioneer:
9/8 lifelink, haste, first strike, menace, trample, ward 2
one of your permanents got exiled already
but hey you could be dead by now if it would be leyline
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>>97217169
this dude was rank #80 with it too
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Searching for decks that require a lot of mythics but only a few rares to craft any format is fine.
Even Timeless seems less mythic hungry due to downshifts or stuff like orzhov scam no longer being viable which was a nice 36 mythic 9 rares deck. Maybe Brawl got me covered?
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>install the game again just to play a few games
>game is practically unplayable since everything is on autopilot
>retards take hours to drop a land and pass or play their out that wins the game for them
>ranked is coinflips
>can't even get good games in because everyone is playing the most boring solitaire shit ever even in non-ranked queue
>uninstall again
I'm trying to get the holiday achievements and i only get matched with bots playing hyperoptimized decks
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>>97218210
This ain't Yargle tier of difficulty just suffer for 100 games with commonuncommon stuff for a phrase.
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>Make a jank Elf deck just to get the Achievements done
>4 games in a row I start with my win condition in my hand
If I didn't know any better I'd say this is rigged
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NOOOOOOOOOOOO JUST LET ME ATTACK FOR THE WIN I NEED TO ATTACK WITH 45 FUCKING CREATURES YOU FUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS!
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>>97217430
badgermole ouroboroid
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IzeKGFzbD8
Semis going on rn get in here mates
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>>97219934
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>>97219955
Is red prison a real deck in timeless? Kind of based.
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>>97219969
Yeah he just btfo necro
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>>97219934
Nobody pays attention to Timeless, but it's pretty funny that the Timeless discord circlejerk spent the last week malding because a few pros said their MH3 precon is a meme deck and it completely shit the bed.
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>>97219955
The pronoun shit will never not be jarring to me
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>t0 gemstone caverns
>t1 chalice x=1, chalice x=0
>magus of the moon
And with that we have a winner folks
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>>97220163
Nazi fascist bigot racist chud
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another jank
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I seriously cannot even begin to care about proshitters in this clown game
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>>97221040
I'd care a little bit if there wasn't rampant cheating in every single paper tournament. Arena is the future of the game.
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>>97200112
Are we playing the same game? People run this in ugin decks and I see it pretty often.
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>>97220149
I mean it's only been around for 2 years, but with the recent influx of cards from cube and bonus sheets it looks like it's going to start being better supported.
I mean I don't really care much about it from an aspect of competitive viability or a healthy scene, but it's a lot of fun and I'm glad to see it growing.
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>>97221756
I'm so glad they do so, 100 rares + 100 mythics crafts the entire format due not that many cards being viable. And they stick forever, somehow an insane budget format. Unlike Standard eating 40 rares every 3 months.
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>opponent takes like a minute every fucking turn
Is he literally fucking braindead?
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>>97221987
And it just keeps happening. Is it fucking retard day?
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>>97221987
>>97222019
this is literally every day
are you new?
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>>97222069
Usually it doesn't happen this often.
I literally don't understand how you could be so slow.
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>>97221987
>>97222019
I unironically do that sometimes because I know it makes ADHDtards ragequit, specially when they're one of those players that spam the your turn emote
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>>97222077
Emote spammers get the rope so fair enough.
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>>97222072
there are actual mouthbreathers who don't even have a pc playing on their phones
or just weirdos playing on the toilet probably

>>97222077
>>97222078
I mean when you're roping every turn some spam is warranted no?
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maindecking 3+ fire magics specifically for this moment, fuck badgers
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>>97222077
I sometimes space out and only snap back when someone reminds me it's my turn
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>Sacrifice 45 food tokens over any number of games
So not only do I have to throw games focusing entirely on making and sacking food tokens, but I have to hope my opponent gives me the turns to actually create and sack food tokens. Merry Christmas everyone
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>>97224910
Find free artifact sac outlets like picrel so you at least don’t have to pay for them
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>>97224910
play shelob, pippen and savvy hunter. you'll be done in 5 games.
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>>97224910
You can do this one against Sparky if you wanted to
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>>97224910
I got it first try, way more than 45 tokens and even won the match using a peregrin took turbo food token deck.
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8 lands already on board btw.
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>>97221987
>>97222019
You're playing a faggot deck and deserve to be roped. No, I don't actually need to know what you're playing to know this.
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>>97230792
Theres only faggot decks left anon. Everything else got power creeped
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>mono black has a turn 3 wrath of god
jesus fucking christ this game sucks
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How many times do you try out a deck before giving up on it?
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>>97231153
I haven't had to give up on a deck in so long, I actually don't know.
Thats the benefit of playing brawl right there
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Can I get some help with something please?
I decided to get back into Arena but couldn't remember which mail I used for the last time I wanted to "Seriously" get into it.

I've played Arena twice in the past, each time with a different mail but I can't remember which of the two was my last play and loging into both I can't find enough clues.

I do notice something weird tho:
One account has outright more events than the other. Why is this?
I have my suspicions of the mail B being my most recent profile because I completed all color challenges there but that's the one with just six events.
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>>97233193
>One account has outright more events than the other. Why is this?
B is a noob account. You haven't completed Sparky's challenge on it, so the other events are locked.
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>>97230927
>braindead badgerfag dumps his entire hand by turn 2 with dorks and moles
>gets fucking gaped by zero-point ballad = 2
Well-deserved
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>>97233397
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How can I improve this brawl deck?
https://moxfield.com/decks/P-B8KibKK0G6CiNoURqGJw
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Is the only way to play this game casually with friends? I don't want to have to read and understand thousands of cards to put together the most broken combos so that I can play the game. Like is there a common/uncommon only mode? I want to be able to play with cards I think are cool even if they aren't the best (most broken)
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>>97233337
Oh makes sense.
I still think mail B is the most recent one because the oldest news in Inbox in mail A is dated 2022 while the oldest one in B is 2025 so I guess Mail B is the one I used to get into this seriously.
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>>97235276
>Is the only way to play this game casually with friends?
This has always been the intended way to enjoy magic
However game already (sort of) pairs stronger meta decks against each other and stupid jank against other stupid jank, you can just mess around in brawl and other unranked constructed formats
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>>97233429
yes, aggro decks have to play 1drops and 2drops. that's how MTG works. you cannot play aggro decks and just pass early turns because your opponent might have a 3 mana wrath. i have no idea why you're implying this would be the case (other than the presumption that you are a stone retard)
game is designed to make board based decks flood the board and then reward brainlet control players with automatic wins to make them feel like they're "punishing an overextension", a camp you clearly fall into. go queue up with your faggot jace avatar and your "the brilliant" title, so smart because you figured out that removing creatures from the board is what you're supposed to do when you load your deck up with removal spells
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>>97235117
-duress
-deathmark
-arrogant outlaw
-gastal raider
-howling banshee
-pelakka predation
-zof consumption
-alms of the vein
-vampire spawn
-diregraf ghoul
-kain
-pulse tracker
-serrated scorpion
-vicious conquistador
-okiba reckoner raid
-painful quandary
-2 swamps
+toxic deluge
+damnation
+liliana of the veil
+arcane signet
+jet medallion
+cling to dust
+bontu's monument
+tinybones, the pickpocket
+gutterbones
+gifted aetherborn
+bob
+bloodghast
+knight of the ebon legion
+cling to dust
+grim tutor
+phyrexian arena
+castle locthwain
+mutavault
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This is my combo deck
say something nice about it
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>>97236215
but for less memey im going
3x gran gran 3x wylie duke
cut agyr, kiora, rip, malcolm
might cut zack fair / kellan
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>>97235593
>play Overextension.dec where you shit your entire hand out on turn 2 so you can drop a t3 ouroboroid and steal the game
>wtf a t3 wrath is too fast for my deck that is notorious for consistently winning by t4
4 mana wraths are too slow for badger decks, eat my fire magic and zero point ballad you fat faggot
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The WISP IS STILL FUCKING BUGGED!!!!!
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>>97213069
no fucking way crystals look cooler bro what the fuck
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Has there been a reason given why the power 9 are in the client but not craftable? It was my understanding with the Explorer -> Pioneer change that it is the intention to turn Historic into Legacy and Timeless into Vintage or am I wrong in that assumption?
I got a severe autism attack and now I have to play through MtG in chronological order ;_;
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>>97238555
oracle of the alpha conjures the power nine into your library is why.
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>>97238555
First of all, nice trips. Now then,
>It was my understanding with the Explorer -> Pioneer change that it is the intention to turn Historic into Legacy and Timeless into Vintage or am I wrong in that assumption?
You are wrong. Entirely different formats. Historic has a lower power level than Modern, let alone Legacy. Fetches and most relevant free spells are banned. Timeless is closer to Vintage, but they likely won't be adding the power 9 any time soon because they'd shake up the format too much.
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>>97238596
There are also some other Alchemy cards that create one of the moxen respectively. Also Tropical island is in the client but I forgot what card conjured that one up

>>97238605
Very disappointing that they would rather create a new 'pseudo vintage' format instead of supporting the existing one. With the recent Power Cube draft I hoped they would move more towards completing the meta.
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love this overcosted do nothing zero power fat fucking dyke like you would NOT believe
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>>97239140
would
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hehe izzet lessons turned back into mono u lessons
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>>97239140
Fat Touhou cosplayer (likely male)
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>>97239140
Every so often WOTC does something good, accidentally.
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>>97239301
>>97239140
>chunk blockers
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Rate my deck. I know it's hard to read. Sorry

Merry Christmas!
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>topdeck 4 lands in a row
>opponent topdecks nothing but gas and draft bombs
>he still feels the need to slowroll every single one of his turns
this game makes me not want to play magic
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>>97239301
Why does it pit a counter on something and then never reference the counter again fucking shithead game fake card bullshit
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>>97244320
I think it was a precursor to finality counters, just something that you use to keep track of this shit while playing tabletop
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>>97243437
>hold lands in hand to bluff
>opponent now must take into consideration what you could possibly be holding
>I am now upset
Many such cases
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>44 Mastery
>24 days left
Already did all my weekly wins until reset. idk if I'm going to make it
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IZZET?
...or
GRIXIS??
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My username change request was approved!
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>use ugin to add 3 mana
>craft locus from enigma jewel, enigma jewel, ugin, spectacular pileup
>use locus to add +6 mana
>cast another ugin
>use ugin to add +6 mana, tap locus to add another +2
>cast boombox, exile a nonland, activate boom box, destroy 2 lands, 2 creatures, 2 artifacts

feels good to be brown
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>>97243437
it's honestly so absurd. the worst is when they do this every single turn, acting like they have to do calculus every single fucking time they draw a card, like they forgot what the board state was or they're simply too confused and overwhelmed to process what's happening, never learning, constantly forgetting, roping and roping and roping
and then you play some swing card or something they can't deal with and they concede within 0.01 microseconds as though they have full perfect understanding of everything and are able to know INSTANTLY that they are lost, that they have zero chance to come back
just like... what the fuck were they thinking about all that time? the sad answer is they weren't thinking about anything. they literally just want to stall and waste time because they're little faggot pussies who can't tolerate losing
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>>97246128
show us, corotinhol0v3r69
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>>97243437
>enemy plays fetchland
>waits 10 seconds
>cracks fetchland
>waits 20 seconds
>gets a land
>waits 30 seconds
>passes

>I play a land and pass in less than 2 seconds

>enemy plays fetchland
>waits 30 seconds
>passes
>post combat cracks fetchland
>waits 30 seconds
>gets land
>waits 30 seconds, ropes out instead of passing

>go to my upkeep, opponent ropes out after 30 seconds
>I play a land and pass in less than 2 seconds
>opponents turn begins, ropes out again in 30 seconds and explodes

every fucking time
should be a permabannable offense
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>>97246128
Wait, I can get a name change if I just put in a support ticket telling them seeing my dead name causes me distress?
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>>97246851
Yeah, for sure!
I literally just said I wasn't happy with my current name
Just be respectful and you should be good
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>>97246444
Has anyone made a macro you press when you know you've lost that draws out the game as long as possible without conceding or forfeiting? Then you can just walk away until it's over. If you can't beat 'em might as well frustrate them into maybe quitting.
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>>97238715
>Very disappointing that they would rather create a new 'pseudo vintage' format instead of supporting the existing one.
I agree with the sentiment but I think you're still misunderstanding the situation a bit, turning explorer into "tournament pioneer" was feasible not just because the most important cards were already on the client, it was also because pioneer is the nonrotating format with the smallest card pool, there are only so many cards not on the client currently that could suddenly become competitive and force them to include them in a hurry, vintage isn't just the power 9 + banned legacy cards, it's the entire 30 year history of magic, the premise of turning timeless into "tournament vintage" is just completely beyond their scope

historic exists because the timing of introducing pioneer was not coordinated with the arena team and the game needed a nonrotating format to deal with rotation and timeless exists because we kept getting cards banned in historic without having anywhere else to play them, neither of these formats were created with the idea of eventually transitioning into other formats, they're just results of arena having to deal with all the stuff they keep shoving into standard sets
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>want Rob Alexander shocks
>don't want fake retro border on cards that were never old frame in the first place
15k saved
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mmm i fucking love adversarial rigged algorithms. so much fucking fun to log on this game and click the play button
5 fucking opponents in a row hogging priority, there is literally zero fucking chance this happened without being rigged. i was forced to lose each game too. they find a way to hog EVERY SINGLE POSSIBLE FUCKING PRIORITY and drag a fucking 2 minute game out to 10 minutes several games in a row and i never had a chance to win any of them, it's a fucking humiliation ritual. fuck the jewish retards who made this game. i hope they all get cancer and die early
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>>97251834
This. Only stinky, dirty, sweaty, and retarded third world niggers and bots “play” this “game” anymore.
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https://youtu.be/Sp9An5OcdE4
How does Ashlizzlle manage to be a god tier DJ on top of already being funny, smart, cute, and good at mtg? Pretty impressive desu.
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>win coin flip
>play turn one thoughtseize
>enemy concedes
why is mtga like this
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>>97252789
why play it out. game decided who won.
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Rate my standard deck
its called "I win coin flips"


also afaik the black wizard FF land doesn't work here, all you get is a bunch of 0/1 wizards but they don't see you cast a bunch of instant/sorceries since they come from spells cast at the same time. The only thing they could do is be chump blockers on turn 3-4, not sure that's worth a tapland
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need deck critique and suggestions
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>>97254087
>pile of random cards with no synergy, in nonsensical amounts
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>>97254252
it just werks
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>>97254309
not shown: 54%

MTGA is set up to allow ANY deck to work, eventually you're pitted against literal starter decks
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>>97254332
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>win too many drafts
>suddenly go second against block constructed decks curving out perfectly for 6+ games straight
Only an absolute fool wouldn't notice.
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>>97254380
>shrines
>91%
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only lands booster
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>>97254492
>PLEASE PLAY LANDFALL/EARTHBENDING, PLEEEEEEEASE
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>>97254332
My favorite is getting someone with 100+ card decks, sometimes they know what they are doing
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I wonder why he was playing multiversal passage
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>>97254471
>he can only win because of rigging
kwab
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just play oroboroid and win.
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>>97255212
i play sweepers and you play no haste
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>>97255256
I play blue dummy LOL
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Checking the Steam forums is actually hilarious, they let people complain about rigging as much as they want
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>>97255212
ouroborid should not exist. Neither should badgermole cub. This game seems to be about lucky draws now.
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>>97255462
>ouroborid should not exist. Neither should badgermole cub
Yes.

>this card game is about lucky draws
ok
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>>97253849
>do nothing until turn five
>do nothing on turn five
>???
>profit
Why come i never get to play against you shitters
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>>97255685
Fun decks get matched against other fun decks. Not copy+paste slop
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>>97246128
Covidwuzacold?
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>>97255685
turn 1 sunken citadel
turn 2 golden saucer, make a treasure
turn 3 try for treasure again or discard carnosaur as removal
turn 4 dragonstorm, hits mother lode, hits thunderous debut, hits carnosaur + etali, stack triggers, carnosaur hits dragonstorm, hits season of weaving, copies carnosaur x2 draws a card, hits dragonstorm + thunderous debut gets herald and kylox and hits dragonstorm hits herald
attack with kylox, sacrificed all my creatures exiled my entire library, cast 3x jidoor, 2x zanarkand and put perennation on herald
pass to opponent who has like 8 cards in library and facing down hexproof indestructible herald
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>>97255744
jank queue matchmaker is disturbingly accurate
it will figure out if you're on a starter deck and put you against starter decks, that's easy
but it will put pure meme decks against pure meme decks
it will put slightly sweaty "this deck runs meta cards like badgermole cub but is still retarded" decks against the same

downside is a LOT of strange mirror matches
ex green ugin ramp will somehow match against green ugin ramp and neither player can exile anything
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>>97256208
I’ll run into people blatantly using their Brawl decks which can be fun
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What did you guys do while Arena was down today?
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Help me improve my standard mardu control brew, I’m just trying to wipe/eliminate everything until I can start generating a bunch of tokens with walkers/hivepools. Fire magics and ballads work well for keeping badgers from running away with the game and most people don’t have any form of good walker removal in this format
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getting sleepy hedron roped in bo1 again bros
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God damn, I forgot what a rush it is to put together a Ygra combo on end step when there's no room for a mistake in sequencing.
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>>97256593
I mostly jacked off to milf OF accounts
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If you play flying decks you're a fucking coward
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Quit bumping the thread retard
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>>97256593
I only sign in on odd numbered days, I play the absolute bare minimum I can to harvest as many daily rewards as possible.
I had no idea it was even down
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>>97260636
Do you play paper magic or are you just forcing yourself to play MTG for punishment?
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>>97260745
Paper
I am holding out hope for MTG in general but anything more than the absolute bare minimum investment is far too courteous for wotc in 2025.
I'm sitting on like 25 mythics and 40 rares atm, about 45k gold.
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>opponent scoops before I even have a chance to choose to keep or mulligan
>did you have fun this match?
why?
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whats a decent dragon deck for standard?
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>>97256603
You don't have enough red mana to cast lightning helix reliably on 2. You should just run Enduring Innocence over Annex in a deck that shits out tokens like this.
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>>97261212
Lol lmao even
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>Magic: Who Goes First
I just came back to Arena few days ago.
How can I make this deck less reliant on going first.
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rename the general to avatar card game
jesus christ
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If I want to push for mythic do I run out of time in 24 hours or 48 hours? Or something else?
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>>97261265
Well? Did you?
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so once again trying to play brawl, and Im watching as my opponents consistently are playing and responding at a breakneck pace. literally casting cards before their land for turn even finishes the animation of it entering and tapping. actually fucking bot matches where they get the magical christmasland hands every single game.
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Is there even any point playing it out when you go second in brawl?
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>>97264747
Yes, if you can't win on the draw it's a skill issue
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>>97260193
why though?
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I see people are having a hard time having fun with brawl
I would like to share my list https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mtga-bant/
I have carefully tuned this deck to a specific power level where I don't play against shitters at all but it's also not THAT bad of a deck.
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>>97265215
Honestly going as high power as you possibly can and playing exclusively in hell queue is the only time I've ever had fun. And even then the format is an absolute shit show where players can just win on turn 1 or 2 without you being able to do anything about it if you didn't mulligan into your perfect answer. The whole format is just inherently flawed because it's a format balanced around multiplayer but only being available as 1v1 on arena.
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>>97265253
>win on turn 1 or 2 without you being able to do anything about it
wut?
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>>97265253
>balanced around multiplayer
Actually, making it 1v1 is the balancing factor. Duel Commander is much more competitively viable than cEDH for a variety of reasons including architype viability and actually being able to score an event.
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>>97263225
combat decks/board presence decks inherently need to play first
play combo if you want turn 0/any turn I can win type decks
FWIW if you are a Greenslut go play Nyxthos in Pioneer
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>jace avatar
>the brilliant title
>ropes literally every priority
i mean, are these just bots? there are so fucking many of them
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>>97265989
Busy eating Hot Pockets
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>>97256603
>ultima in a deck with thrumming hivepool
why?
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>>97265303
He got high rolled by a dino deck once and is exaggerating
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what's a good cheap deck to farm 4 wins daily thx
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Never get tired of being forced into unrealistic kikety hands and draws while opponents get magical Christmasland hands every kiking kike kike kikety day on this rigged cheating kike algorithm until I’m eventually allowed to win. Truly a realistic and totally believable version of Magic.
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>>97267358
Selesnya starter deck
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>>97267394
kike????
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>tfw you kill your opponent with their infinite
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>>97267394
Just buy some gems and emotes and stop being antisemitic
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>>97265313
well, yeah but DC has a very extensive banned & restricted list that gets updated every 3 months or so
the arena team is not really worried about curating brawl, they removed the majority of the feel bad cards and rebalanced a lot of cards for historic, but that's about the extent of it

I think brawl has potential to be great like DC but it's gonna need a lot more intervention
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>>97267394
really is amazing, isn't it?
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>>97268290
STOP NOTICING THINGS
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>>97214903
Are those pronouns mandatory or can you opt out?
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>>97268510
Mandatory or else you will not be allowed to compete, because Magic is for Everyone
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>>97268521
What about people who don't have pronouns, is magic for them?
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>>97268510
good question desu. i would personally resist and claim that my personal preference is to not have listed pronouns. that way i could kick and scream if they denied my request and i could call them bigots
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>>97268510
They're not mandatory.
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Would Stax work in Arena?

https://moxfield.com/decks/9iL45za60U-CJudzW1-BWQ
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>>97268943
Yeah. Add pic related.
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>>97198774
>look up for mtgag on vg
>its not there
well since i found it i will ask, is this worth getting into in 2026? or is the game economy too shit for new players
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For a second I almost thought I read a post by someone who doesn't already play MtG. Must've been my latent schizophrenia acting up since I haven't been taking my meds since Thanksgiving.
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>>97269146
Depends on what you're looking for. Try it for a few days and see.
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>>97268943
stax is 3x better on paper because your stax effects apply to 2 additional players
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*Summons a 9/9 green creature*
What will you do now, fags?
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>>97270075
dies to doom blade
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>>97270139
That's it FUCK THIS SHITTY GAME
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>>97270075
if it is in brawl? draw 22 lands over the course of 6 turns.
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>>97269660
Also all of the most powerful stax cards that actually make the archetype work will never be on arena, because Wizards deem them to be unfun
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If you're consistently flooding on lands, it's most likely a deckbuilding issue. Fix your ratio and stop bitching.
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Free full art Amonkhet lands in the store. Repeat after me, THANK YOU JotC
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>>97271140
how's that boot leather taste.
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>>97271410
"Every day I hear these things. Always from men looking to blame someone else for their bad luck."
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>>97271463
you are defending a game that explicitly manipulates the shuffler.
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Warning: Don’t play Arena between the hours of 8am to 12noon central US time with mono white or the kikes will kike your draws every single time
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>>97213363
where?
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>>97271529
isn't the corporate line that they just give a best of two initial draws in BO1 only?
where do people get this conspiratorial BS or is it just arena's version of "he's hacking mom!"
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>>97271724
are you genuinely under the impression a modern game meant to retain engagement is totally free of any further manipulation?
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>>97271735
i'm under the impression that any system meant to do so would be beyond the capabilities of anyone contracted by WotC to faithfully derive much less implement
any digging on a WotC digital product has produced nothing but cardboard and tape down to the foundation as far as i'm aware

but you already know that even the format of your message screams "it's my headcanon and i'll selectively search youtube until i find a talking head who agrees"
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>>97271735
The irony of saying this about the digital spinoff of a gacha physical collectible set is palpable.
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>>97271746
Anon, they already made the game and have been caught with hand smoothing and card weighing altering the draw. you are arguing they can't do something we know they are already doing.
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>>97271779
They openly discussed the free mulligan in BO1, they were not "caught red handed" which is all that hand smoothing means. Nobody who actually plays Magic takes BO1 seriously, it's not actual comp. The "card weighing" is in dire need of source that isn't just some Youtuber with a sample size of a couple hundred games where a skew could easily manifest.

Don't bother posting any variation of "I just know, and if you don't, you're stupid" by the way. That shit is so tired, even by this dead website's standards.
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>>97271901
>They openly discussed the free mulligan in BO1, they were not "caught red handed"
>and thats all they have ever done to manipulate the shuffler, scout's honor!
Yeah, anyways you were just arguing they didn't have the capability of it to begin with, so you are pretty quick to move the goalpost. I'll accept your concession here because you either are a genuine brownnoser, you are rage baiting, or you are unreasonably gullible. either way nothing will be gained from this, bye.
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>>97269146
>is this worth getting into in 2026?
no
>why
universes beyond
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>>97269146
I wouldn't recommend it but if you like card games you could do worse.
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>>97271901
>Nobody who actually plays Magic takes BO1 seriously
not an argument
>sample size of a couple hundred games where a skew could easily manifest
this has been done and posted to reddit. google it. many people have proven this game is rigged. it never gains traction. there isn't enough of a reason for people to care. and there will always be people like you who keep extending how far away the goalposts are, even if people collect unreasonably large sample sizes (which, again, has literally been done)

you're taking the position that gaming corporations don't do this and/or aren't capable of doing this and/or aren't interested in doing things like this. all of that is wrong. again, this has been proven. go look find game dev conferences on youtube, particularly ones that aim to educate mobile game developers (MTGA is a mobile game, by the way, not that it's really relevant to my argument) about how to rig in-game RNG to extract the most profit out of whales
rigged algorithms literally exist. not a conspiracy theory. rigged "engagement milking" algorithms literally exist. not a conspiracy theory.
people are employed, getting paid 6-7 figures by corporate companies, to rig games and maximize KPIs (again, google it)
all of this is easily researched. you want to throw around stats terms and argue like an academic but you display incredible levels of ignorance about what you're talking about. you are effectively a little kid pouting about how santa's real. as long as you want to believe in that, nothing anybody says is going to change your mind. you have to be willing to accept your ignorance before anything will change
thanks and god bless
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^incel
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Surely Bo1 is rigged but it used to be in my favor. I farmed play-in points each month since 1 year with Leyline Red in Pioneer Bo1 with 70%-75% winrate.
But Wotc powercrept Izzet Prowess & Selesnya CoCo so much my WR dipped to 55% only losing to those 2. Likely still 70% against the rest of the field.
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>>97272400
My advice for the upcoming qualifiers, 90% will be those 2 and tiers below fringe preying on the former RB Midrange + UW Control. Skip till ban announcement does nothing and Lorwyn introduces more mistakes.
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>>97271901
Even if we disregard the literal devs posting this stuff on beta forums and reddit data mining card values through a bug that anyone could reproduce before they patched it let me ask you this - how do you think the matchmaking prevents little Billy's barely edited starter deck from getting gigaraped by tier 1 meta decks whenever he queues up?
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I want to punch up the power level of this tempo deck. What cards would you remove & add?

https://archidekt.com/decks/18580249/obyra_tempo
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>>97273239
Timewaste
You only need to craft 5 rares, 5 mythics and 20 uncommons/commons to have every playable card that's viable outside of standard.
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>>97273239
How do you do it? Draft?
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>>97272483
MMR
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>>97272222
checking quads
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botrans rights

sisters we MUST reach bump limit before 2026 or op will kys as xyr spends another end of year alone and rejected
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>>97273474
yup
monowhite was disgustingly effective
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>>97273607
i have a bf
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>they play swamp or island
>i concede instantly
it's really that simple
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You know what fucking sucks?
Magic the Gathering
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>opponent goes first
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>>97271140
17 lands split 50/50 basics of each color + any dual lands I picked up, every time. Never have much of a problem in paper draft yet somehow games 2 and 3 are always mana flood or screw. It just doesn't fucking add up. In a draft night at my LGS I might see bad mana situations in 1 of 9 games. In arena it's basically every other game.
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>>97271362
lookin quite pretty desu
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>>97271362
>>97275019
Nice, thanks. I actually saw those earlier and failed to notice they were free.
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imagine actually not being capable of modding this shitstain then actually spending money on store art
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>>97275019
You're not getting me to reinstall, maro, I know your tricks.
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>>97271362
Didn't they used to give away gold for free in the store but stopped because people were complaining or something?
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just 2-0'd kapala despite being drunk and not getting to sideboard (had to restart pc)
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>>97275278
No, they still do that
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>>97275280
probably his dad playing on his account

you are not skilled enough to duke it out with us
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turn 1 forest peen gollinator
turn 2 must breed pool, badgermole, llanowar elves, another peen golly
turn 3 land, cast portent of calamity x=8
cast a free omniscience, get 2nd marang in hand

but im at a dead end now, no other draws but 2x marang (another portent for next turn tho)
so....

>marang bounce badgermole + marang
>badgermole puts a +1/+1 counter on a land
>repeat previous two steps 60 times
>have 3x tapped 20/20 lands
>pass
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>>97275714
But I'm Indestructible
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>>97275790
Obviously killing yourself is a sac effect
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>>97275797
I'm calling a judge
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>>97275806
i'm a judge and i tell you "ywnbaw and hurry up already"
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stupid ass 2025 niggas in this thread
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I picked backed up magic (due to irl friends) and new to arena, which lands should I invest in to first? Based on current standard and spoilers
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>>97275847
Why do you act like such a fag all the time?
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>First 3 games of the New Year
>3 land draws TOTAL across those 3 games
NEW RIGGED YEAR
SAME RIGGED GAME
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>purposefully roping some faggot's nigger deck
>their timer is always below mine
how are these shit scraping retards alive
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>>97279045
Stop playing?
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>>97281177
I think we all felt this way at some point:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAqZs8tQq8U
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^bots

also trans and sucking jannies for favors
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>>97281243
what exactly are you hoping for with these posts?
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what exactly are you hoping for with these posts >>97278921 >>97272264 >>97252110 >>97234485 >>97232551?
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so nothing, alright, back to ignoring you.
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drafted some midnight hunt
ill report back how I do later
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When are we getting the steak sauce UB? It would have focus on food token synergy, of course.
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written and posted with the help of google translate
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>>97281850
2-3
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Discard decks are not strong.
But it does feel good to drop a Liliana and get an immediate scoop.
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>>97214053
wait when literally mice agro and cori steel prowess were the only decks?
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>>97219955
>pronouns
the funniest thing in the world would happen if elon musk bought wotc from hasbro
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>>97268552
"Everyone" does not include transphobic white supremacists. You will not be missed.
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This deck is hard-proof that the shuffler is rigged to hell. There's not a single game where this deck DOES NOT have this opening hand
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>>97282537
wrong one
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did a streamer just play this deck or something? i feel like half the matches ive played today are against this deck ive seen maybe one single time before
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>>97282401
They weren't?
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>>97282578
at the world championships the entire top 8 was mice and izzet
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>>97282592
That was pro tour FF not worlds
Omni was the 2nd most played archetype in that
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Hello, will they ever add all the magic cards and commander to the client? I want to play magic but refuse to play at LGS, the people playing smell like literal shit there
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>implying the average mtgager (trans bot) doesn't smell or look like an actual turd

WE DID IT SISTERS! WE DID IT AND IT ONLY TOOK US OVER HALF A MONTH

WE REACHED THE BUMP LIMIT!!
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>>97282541
Why only two krenko? I know he's legendary but I'd have thought you'd want to try to guarantee you draw him every game
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>>97282850
Have you considered playing with >friends?
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Is there some combo with this I'm unaware of? I threw together a brawl deck with a bunch of draft chaff that's all the "when you cast your second spell" stuff and kicker shit and I'm exclusively getting matched with hell queue.
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>>97283499
game is shit, it probably saw mono blue and various staples they use and figured it was top tier.
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newfag here, what happens if you draft a card you already own 4 copies of?
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>>97284027
goes to your vault progress, when your vault hits 100% you get a handful of wildcards of each rarity.
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>>97283311
legendary and also 4 mana, i generally don't want him clogging up my hand early game
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>>97284347
>.
also i might only own 2
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When is the optimal time to open my golden packs? should i open them when i open my avatar packs at the end of draft season?
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>>97284027
For rares and mythics, you get 20/40 gems. For uncommons and commons, vault progress which eventually becomes a couple of wildcards.
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>>97281318
For you to fuck off forever and stop bumping the thread stinky boi
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Shit dude, I'm missing Final Fantasy draft already..
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Why are Etali players so retarded
>See big mana card
>It MUST be good!!!
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Thirdie bro coping seething and shitting his pants as his comments get removed lmao lmao lmao lmao
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>>97285613
It was good but it wasn't THAT good
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>>97284117
>>97284479
Is that when you get 100% of the commons and when you get 100% of the uncommons or do you have to get 100% of all the cards in the set to get any benefit?
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>>97285753
It has nothing to do with overall set completion. If you have 4x of a card and you pick another one in draft, you'll get the replacement bonus based on the rarity. You could have no other cards in the set and it'd still do that.
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>>97285762
Right, I see
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>>97285765
You may be thinking of dupe protection, that only applies to cards you open from packs directly. If you would open a fifth copy of a rare/mythic, it rerolls into another one from the set instead. So you won't see the 20/40 gems until you get 100%
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>>97285722
>bming your opp when they're gging you after losing and posting it to 4chan
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>>97286054
All Etali/Dino players deserve BM
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>opponent goes first
>t1 duress/thoughtseize
I scoop. cards seen with these effects should not be permanently visible, nobody irl plays with their known cards on the table for their opponent to reference for the rest of the game, it’s up to the thoughtseizer to memorize and keep track of them, it’s the mental stack tradeoff of the card. Having my hand permanently visible before I can even drop a land is fucked
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A completely normal thing to happen in a game. Definitely nothing suspicious to be seen here. Just a casual 0.6% chance occurence that prevents the player from profiting from an event.
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>>97286583
I ask my friends what cards they revealed every now and then.
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>>97286588
>Draw 13 cards
>Zero lands
>%0.5 chance
Sometimes the game just fucks you anon, its part of it and probably intended. What are you gonna do about it though?
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>>97286620
>What are you gonna do about it though?
If you said this to me in person, I'd cave your head in.
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>>97286672
I'm sorry for your loss anon, but accepting that the game is fucked up makes future dogshit easier to accept.
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>>97286583
>NOOO YOU CAN'T JUST WRITE DOWN WHICH CARDS WERE REVEALED!! JUDGE!! JUDGE!!
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>>97286588
>>97286620
if only a whistle blower would ruin wotc for us.
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>>97286691
I would hurt you.
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>>97285731
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>>97286855
why is there always such a correlation between trans, whites, racism and being bad at games?

raging at others over your mental impotence will never turn you into a woman, no matter how racist you try to be
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It’s been nice knowing you boys, but with this thread’s death I can finally uninstall MTGA once and for all
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