>'member when Primarchs were CLONES of Thy Emperor and not his sons with Erda ("Goddess-Empress" meme-turn-canon)>'member when Erda didn't exist and didn't ruin the Imperium by ejecting her sons to the Warp just to piss off Thy Emperor>'member when 40k was actually absurdist Grimdark and not mature, deep, serious Hopepunk>'member when the Imperium was actually xenophobic and not species-mixer with Eldars and Tau>'member when Salamanders were "reverse albinos" (Caucasians with actual black skin) instead of space wakandans>'member when Space Wolves, Ultramarines and Cadians were 100% whites>'member when Custodes were 100% males>'member when Mortarion despised being Nurgle's slave>'member when Magnus despised being Tzeentch's slave >'member when Necrons were space egyptian terminators and not space B1 droids with spooky body>'member when Thy Emperor was a tragic idealist man and not "CEO of galactic daddy issues">'member when SM armors were actually cool and had beaks and not the current clusterfuck of iconography and stamps Membermarine 'members. And you?
>caring about anything that happened to Warhammer past the early 00sngmi
>>97217333I'm a zoomer, fellow anon in Thy Emperor, I discovered 40k too late and currently I discovering the old editions.Seeing how far has fallen 40k is kinda sad.>be me>discovers cool setting>discover it just in the moment when becomes shit>every single time
>>97217344>you just really hate women and shitskins.It is Thy Emperor's Way.
>>97217347Then exclusively read the old fluff, and model your army appropriately. There's at least 20 years of it, go nuts!
>>97217250Wasn't the point of that South Park episode that Star Wars and other brands were deliberately evoking people's memories of things they loved in back in the 'good old days' as a lazy way of selling shit?GW are doing the opposite. You might not like the new stuff, but they're not trying to replicate the older stuff you're hard for.This is a shit thread, and you should feel bad.
>>97217250I cannot even look up Erda (the character from Wagner's ring that warns Odin about the ring) without being bombarded with reddithammer nonsense. It's very annoying.
>>97217380People use the memberberries meme unironically now, in much the same vein as we used to use "Pepperidge Farm remembers."
>>97217250>REEEEEEEEEEEE BWACK PEEPO BWAAAACK PEEEEPOOOOYou'll worry less about this once you have sex.
>>97217380>expecting a /pol/cuck to understand the actual underlying message in literally fucking anything
>>97217383The thing is>Erda means Earth (Terra)>so basically according to GW>"Jupiter / Thy Emperor gets fucked by Erda / Terra because someone MUST say "NO!" to Thy Emperor and we need a woman-empower moment">so a single woman ruins the Imperium / Mankind for 12k yearsAccidentally redpilled?At this point, with all the Ultramar glazing, the Imperium is just Space Third Rome.
>>97217363I know anon, but I will like to play it too, and if people (most are consoomers) only play with the new models and rules, I can't play.
>>97217411>THY EMPEROR THY EMPERORYeh, nah, you're a cunt.
>>97217250Overfocus on Muhrineswank and ALL POWERFUL CAN NEVER BE DEFEATED GRIMDERP Chaos is why setting currently as it is. It is the source of all retarded shit Horus Heresy introduced.Personally, I prefer Xenos over Chaos in 40k closer to some Rogue Trader era and despite Necrons receiving sizable amount of characters and personality with "Newcrons" still prefer them as slaves of C'tans, C'tans themselves being masterminds and Pariah Gene plotline.That being said, you can play older editions just fine, gets loads of firstborn marines for almost free (or print them) and there is retrohammer general. So you can actually play and experience 40k the way you want and not just rush to watch so dramasloptubers.
>>97217417Its not hard to find people playing older editions. Set up a Facebook and have a look at the WH groups, that's where older heads will be. If that fails just convince your nu-school consoomer friends to try out older editions. If that fails, rape them. There's literally no reason to play nu-GW slop.
>>97217436I do really like the idea of GSC theatre nerds from Infinite and Divine as an example of nu40k that actually works.>three armed juggler>everyone going "wow how does he control the dummy arm!? is it a prosthetic?"
Did they ever explain where the Soul Drinkers came from? I know they thought they were Imperial Fist successors but then it turned out they weren't.
>>97217444I think they were implied to be Thousand Sons successors or something.
>>97217419No, I'm just Loyal-green-maxing.
>>97217444>>97217458Last time I check it, GW forgot about them. Like many other cool chapters and stories.
>>97217250I remember, although I might be wrong, where every player "knew" that the Emperor is literally deadcompletely dead-deada rotting corpse on the golden throne with no hope of revival, a mere set-piece for the settingand that most if not all of Imperium just didn't realise thatdid I imagine all that?these days Emps is unambiguously alive, holding up astronomicon with his holy eyebrows and doing other stuff
>>97217380>but they're not trying to replicate the older stuff you're hard for.They did a marketing thing with "iconic opening lines" to warhammer novels and the majority just reused the "I was there when horus killed the emperor"
>'member when Salamanders were "reverse albinos" (Caucasians with actual black skin) instead of space wakandansThey still are, in that animated series, the Salamander was clearly asian.
>>97217250>Primarchs were CLONESNo, I don't remember there being any real information on how he made them. I know they used to not exist, but that's before my time.>Custodes were 100% malesI remember them being 100% irrelevant with almost nothing at all written about them.>Thy Emperor was a tragic idealist manHe was also largely irrelevant except as a symbol and for the Astronomican. I don't think we know anything about his personality beyond one two page story.>>97217486You did imagine that. It's somewhat ambiguous in Rogue Trader, and I'm pretty sure he was unambiguously alive by the Realm of Chaos books.
>>97217532>You did imagine that.that's a shameit had always felt appropriately grimdark
>>97217363Way ahead of you anon. Painting up a 3rd edition inspired Tau army, even got old metal broadside battle suits for the collection.Tau has remained very visually consistent throughout their existence, these pathfinders are from the newer kit but still painted to be era appropriate.
>>97217692I'm a different anon but I also remember the Emperor being a corpse that the Imperium had to keep secret lest panic spreads
>>97217250>'member when Salamanders were "reverse albinos" (Caucasians with actual black skin) instead of space wakandansthis is still true retard
>>97217250>Membermarine 'members. And you?I don't, because I'm not into dogshit settings.
>>97217250Kek, nuhammer chud absolutely seething
>>97217250Half of these are the result of the fans themselves taking the setting way too seriously.
>>97217795You don't like Halo or FROMsoft? Cool. Don't see how it's relevant but cool.
>>97217397>implying that OP will ever have sex.
>>97217404>Retard tries not to seethe and bring up /pol/ unprompted: impossible mode
>>97217466Moi aahmuh is kuntempt,Moi sheeld is dezgoost,Moi swawd is 'atred,In dah Empruh's naym,Let nunn suhvoive.>Commisork in the background>"WE'Z SAVED BOYZ!">"IT'S DAH SPAYSE MUHREENZ!!"
>>97217250>Discover 40k around late 5th-early 6th>One-two punch of DoW3 and Gathering Storm takes me out of it for a few years>Boltgun brings me back in>Just in time for 10th Edition
>>97217250>clones Yes more or less. I remember when Horus was just a commander of note. >Erda shit Yes. Unnecessary interpersonal drama added to make relatable characters for books I didn't read. HH series is bad after Legion and wasn't great to begin with. But holyshit did it sell and makes great mimetic advertising for the last 19 years. >absurdist rgimdark as an excuse to be ironic distance only No that part's revisionism to suit your narrative. It was always mixed amounts of serious and silly to varying degrees and taking it too seriously or too lightly has always been shit. No. That was always mixed as well. The tensions between the more xenophobic and monodominant aspects of the imperium and the more radical sympathizers and xenotech heritics has been a thing since before you were an itch in your mom's cunt. >salamanders Also no, wasn't really elaborated on deeply in the index astartes article. Making them look like wesly snipes in demolition man has always been the goal because its cool. >always whites Yes. Seems fine. Not even white, never cared at all. Space romans, space furries and space generic late 20th century army dudes being white makes the most sense. >custodies Yes. Bad retcon, obvious market fishing. >preferences of primarch wank ymmv, them being focused on at all in 28mm scale was always a bad call regardless of whatever spacedad issues you wanted to read onto them. >necrons Yes. Hint-don't-show and GM controlled super weapons are better but don't sell little men. >Thy Emperor Any focus on intention past the 2-4 pages was a mistake. Keeping it shrouded in mystery over millennia and religious reinterpretation was a better narrative device but not one that sold more junk. Your tragic idealist shit is just as bad, we just didn't get that being as popular to sell. >armourfagging lol no that has always been about making a mixed bag of mks
>>97217441Do any of the other Warhammer novels have interesting GSC stories?
>>97217250member when Dark Angels were actually John Turok?
>>97217250I don't play 40k, or really follow it all that much. I just binge the lore from time to time. But one thing that was poignant to me was the whole Ollanius Pius story. I think the idea of one normal Human in this (allegedly) grimdark world being the one who steps forward to protect the Emperor against his greatest threat was a powerful metaphor. Then all these retarded fans needed to ruin it six different fucking ways. Oh no, he's not a normal man, actually immortal! Oh actually it wasn't a guardsman, it was an Astartes, no a Custodes! Actually scratch that, it was all three, or no wait, there were more people there! Actually the Emperor was besties with the immortal guy!It just makes me feel like 40k fans are retards. So many revisions where everyone is missing the point so much.
>>97218299>It just makes me feel like 40k fans are retards.You had to find out one way or another
>>97218188Day of Ascension by Adrian Tchaikovskyvery good GSC vs Mechanicus, and it's fairly short.>Tech Priest politics basically being wars over funding for your given dream project>shitty radioactive mining planet where people dying of cancer by 30 is just part of the equation>GSC doing what they do and thriving in the shittiest environments imaginable>no one bats an eye because they get better production from those particular districtsIt's the only GSC story I've ever read where they successfully sell the idea that yeah, maybe getting eaten by bugs is better than another thousand generations of your children being fed to one of three grindhouses.
>>97218307Thanks!
>>97217532>I remember them being 100% irrelevant with almost nothing at all written about them.Yeah, this is what bothers me about Custodes discourse, no one seems to notice that most lore we have about them comes from the 2010s, it's already nu40k. Also, they're kinda Mary Suish, the Emperor loves them the most, they're supposed to be the future of humanity (even though they're not psychic, which was supposed to be the main thing the Emperor wanted).
>>97217250Hot take, I never cared for beakies. While I think best armor mark depends on overall chapter aesthetic I tend to think 5>8>7>1>2>3>4>6>Primaris. Vader face with the studs is a cool aesthetic for angry guy with a chainsword hacking people apart
>>97218337Not a hot take at all, this board is full of retards with bad opinions
>>97217814Honest question, how?
>>97218175OP here, you are literally me, anon.First time I know about 40k was with the 4th edition, but back then I was more interested in Fantasy.Then in 2016, after Fantasy rekts by GW, 40k became my main interest but seeing the constant retcons and purge of cool animations makes all so tiredsome.It's like you just can't have cool things anymore.
>>97217532Primarchs were clones, they were made from pure DNA of Thy Emperor.Later, because GW needed "female empowerment moment", Primarchs were not longer made 100% from Emperor's DNA, but 50% Emperor's and 50% Erda's DNA.
>>97218525Most of it was Horus Heresy shit which was driven by the novels which BL would have never published if nobody bought them. Instead nerds gobbled it up to see which space daddy was stronger in the soap opera which is the Horus Heresy series.
